certainly in Europe, and it may be outdated. Don’t tell anyone in the States–
“Israel is losing its soul in the occupation. You have to stop the occupation."
JPost quoting Daniel Cohn-Bendit, co-leader of the Greens party in the European parliament, a German, and son of Holocaust survivors.
“Israel isn’t good for the Jews.”
Israel is the occupation. I’ve seen nothing that springs from Israel that isn’t a mechanism by which Palestinians are stripped of their land, their freedom, their identities and, in many cases, their lives.
Two more things.
(1) Barak is not going to Paris due to the French Foreign Minister floating the EU proposal to recognize a Palestinian state regardless of the status of the peace talks.
(2) When Netanyahu comes to town for the AIPAC conference, Obama will be in Australia.
I think I hear the sound of doors slamming.
I wouldn’t read too much into #2. More specifically, I wouldn’t be shocked if Obama ends up canceling his trip to Australia. I suppose we’ll see.
Off topic, but might be interesting…..
Authorities in Dubai announced today that they have uncovered the identities of 15 MORE Israeli agents who participated in the murder of a member of Hamas.
That brings the total to 26.
…and more forged passports. Apparently, Israel seems to think Europe’s foreign ministries are its personal collective bitch. I’d like to be sure Europe intends to actually do something about this. I can only hope they actually care about the safety and security of their citizens traveling abroad than our government does.
I wonder who wasn’t an Israeli agent in Dubai that fateful day. Two of the “israeli agents” fled to Iran following the assassination, interesting. The Dubai authorities will soon be wiping the egg of their faces.
Maybe so. Most people think that Dubai is rolling up the Mossad network though, even in Iran.
Suure, yonira. And I’m sure Saddam Hussein’s WMDs really are in Syria.
What do you think the connection between these agents and Iran are? The only WMDs that were in Syria belonged to Iran and N. Korea, but that little adventure ended pretty swiftly.
Neoconservatives! There’s always good for a cheap laugh. Oh, and war crimes.
You don’t know shit about shit Chaos, this is why you can’t answer a single question. All you can use are 80s cliches that you heard on the Huffington Post and use as your own. Its quite sad.
One more time, what is your theory on Mossad operatives using Iran as their exit country after killing an agent who was dealing weapons w/ that same country? Please address their European passports and their ability to travel to Iran with fake identities.
You haven’t even linked a goddamned source, yonira. As usual, you’re making shit up.
I could live with that if people like you didn’t lie to get American soldiers killed. Let alone innocent people in the Middle East. People like you are murdering the Jewish faith, and you’re murdering American ideals. Among other things.
I’m sure Iran put flouride in the water supply too, huh, yonira.
And finally, not that your question is worth addressing, but if you actually knew anything about the rest of the world, you’d know it is actually quite easy to enter Iran with a European passport. So why wouldn’t a Mossad agent with a fake passport do just that?
You are funny Chaos, do you read anything in the news?
So basically what you’re saying, yonira, is that you’re a dumbass bully who eats whatever shit MEMRI puts out, so you have no idea what the Middle East is really like. I’ve talked to quite a number of people from Europe who have been to Iran. On business or on vacation.
Dumbass.
USians are about the only people I know who have a hard time getting into Iran — aside from Israel. If you’re a USian with an Israel stamp on your passport, fuggetaboutit.
When I was in Iran, I met and talked with Canadians (in Isfehan for a conference on veterinary medicine), Italians (heavily invested in Iranian industry — lots of development in Yazd), Germans. In Mashad, I had dinner with a couple from Sweden that was motoring through Iran. I was — and am — envious of their freedom to travel anywhere they wish in Iran. USians are restricted in their travel: must be with a group/tour guide; must submit itinerary; must not stray from itinerary or guide will get in trouble…. It’s a shame.
Read Ronen Bergman’s “Thirty Years’ War”: Mossad was heavily involved in SAVAK and all levels of Iranian military and shah’s government. So many Jews fled Iran at Shah’s fall because they knew they were about to get their come-uppance: Jews commandeered flights to load up their Persian carpets, pets, exotic animals, and other goodies with which they fled to the Promised Land (it not being necessary to cross Red Sea, god’s intervention was not required). (note that Knesset & US Congress are working on getting remuneration for Jewish “refugees” from Arab states in post-WWII years).
things you won’t find in US MSM:
Leader of Iranian Sunni rebel group Jundallah arrested: report
http news dot xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-02/23/c_13184763.htm
http sarmachar dot wordpress.com/2010/02/23/malik-rigi-captured-on-a-flight-from-dubai-to-kyrgyzstan-press-tv/
link to presstv.ir
Where would Israel’s soul be if the occupation stopped tomorrow? At best, it would continue to be country which distinguishes between its citizens based on ethnicity, and even grants us Diaspora Jews greater rights than Palestinians who are currently citizens and whose families have lived there for centuries. It would exist on land from which hundreds of thousands of ethnically challenged inhabitants were forcibly dispossessed. At worst and most probably, it would insist on continuing to exercise its right to military control over millions of its neighbors, and to occasionally bomb and invade as it saw fit. This would be the Israel that found its soul?
The experiment that was zionism – israel as a “jewish state” has failed utterly and this must first be accepted and acknowledged by the majority of israeli jews … then they must set about to rewrite the governing documents to secularize the country and follow the U.S. model of separation of religion and state, and then they must codify into the laws equal rights under the laws provisions and then they must live by them. Hard work, it will take time, and there will be spasms of violence along the way – but for any lasting peace that lets jews live in peace in what they call today “Israel” they must let go the false dream which turned out to be a nightmare and take steps to reality – a shared reality where they are but one of the neighbors, not the bully that dominates the whole neighborhood
Gertrude Stein lived in Paris during the Dreyfuss years, when Herzl was drumming up the “necessity” of a Jewish safe-haven for European Jews. German Jews were not interested; French Jews were not interested. It took Herzl over a decade to get some traction, and only after the pressure of Judeo-Bolsheviks fleeing East Europe, and Rothschild’s recognition that there was money to be made in the Levant, did Herzl’s wet-dream take shape. Herzl was a prototype of today’s neocon scribblers — Ledeen, Kristol, Muravchik, the Kagans 4 — spinning fantasy webs that ensnare other people’s children and treasure.
Stein thought Hitler should have been awarded the Nobel Peace prize — he did work very hard to achieve peaceful relations between Germany and her neighborsh, Stein argued.
Herzl? Not so much.
What money was there to be made in the Levant? What profit did Rothschild make with his Palestine charity?
I think acquiring 80+% of Palestine and displacing half its original population qualifies as a profit, WJ.
What profit accrued to Rothschild. When Rothschild made his contributions, who believed that there would be a Jewish state there?
In addition to major land holdings (there’s an entire city in Israel that is privately owned by Rothschild; I forget the details — I’ll find ‘em later), Rothschild paid for a pipeline to link to port at Eilat: Iran-Israel formed a company wherein Iran shipped oil by tanker to ??, where it went into pipeline to Eilat. From Eilat, Israel took the oil it needed domestically, and sold the larger portion across the Mediterranean.
The company was in business for about 30 years and produced a great deal of revenue and wealth for Israel. The company was shut down when Khomeini came to power. Israel still owed Iran a great deal of money at the point, for which Iran sued Israel. link to haaretz.com
That case was dragged out for over 20 years, and was finally arbitrated by international jurists in Belgium: Israel lost, was ordered to compensate Iran in the tens of billions of US dollars. Israel has, to this date, refused to pay the judgment. (note that a Jewish American family has sued Iran for Iran’s alleged involvement in the Palestinian suicide bombing death of a member of that family who was killed while visiting Israel. The JA family won the case in US court (Iran did not appear to make a defense), was awarded a very large money judgment, and is making a claim to take ancient Persian artifacts held on loan by University of Chicago, in payment of that claim. That case is still in courts; the ancient Persian tablets are still under threat of being auctioned to satisfy the claim of the JA family.)
THOSE are SOME of the “profits” Rothschild made with his “Palestine charity.”
oh fer gawd’s sake, WJ, the Balfour Declaration was an iou drawn payable to Baron Rothschild.
I read a biography of Herzl almost 30 years ago, so the facts of his life after the 1897 Zionist Congress in Basel are not that clear to me. But to say that it took more than a decade for him to get traction is a clear falsehood, for the time period between his writing of Der Judenstaat and his death was less than a decade and the time between that book and the Congress was less than three years.
I do believe you either make things up, Psychopath, or else your sources are filled with falsehoods.
Says the guy who denies large swaths of the Goldstone Report.
Israel has a soul?
Maybe? The only thing we can be certain Israel lacks is a conscience.
It’s that black, shriveled thing rotating on the spit.
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