The IDF fundraising dinner at the Waldorf tonight and the protest called for 5 outside the hotel is a big story in Israel and Palestine, getting covered in the Jerusalem Post, in right wing Arutz Sheva, on Democracy Now, on Al Bawaba, again in the JPost, in Haaretz by Donna Nevel of Jews Say No, and in the JTA, out of Jerusalem.
A protest against [Gabi] Ashkenazi sponsored by more than 25 American, Jewish and Israeli organizations is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon outside Manhattan’s Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, the site of the IDF dinner, the Jerusalem Post reported. Protest organizers have described Ashkenazi as the "butcher of Gaza."

I wish i can join! Long live Palestine!! War criminals War criminals! In the hague, in the hague we will hear them!
aparisian says: “War criminals War criminals! In the hague, in the hague we will hear them!”. Don’t we wish.
There is, BTW, some confusion about what a hearing in The Hague would mean. It is a court, not a hangman. It hears, first, an accusation, then evidence and legal argument, and last, if at all, issues a decree of guilt or innocence (or not proved?). A finding of guilt of war crimes is by no means assured.
Still, with the US’s invincible help, Israel has enjoyed “immunity” (that is, it has been proof against bring brought before any court) and this immunity has in effect created “impunity” (that is, a condition of being proof against punishment).
I’d like to see Israel or its important leaders in the “dock”, if just once. And if the US decides to try the accused unlawful combatants which it holds in military commissions, then perhaps Israel (a lawless combatant in Palestine and Lebanon so many times) should be tried in such a rather lawless (that is to say, non-due-process) court as well.
Pabelmont, a fair hearing in court is exactly what the vast majority of us want. I don’t want to see anyone sent to the gallows. I just want the truth to come out on record, and I want to see justice work for the weak as well as the strong.
In short, I want proof that modern human civilization is both truly modern, and truly humane.
I agree with you guys. but Pablemont you know there is an end to everything and it will come because Israel abused of this immunity.
The primary motivation for the US to keep Israel out of the dock is the knowledge that they would be there alongside, in any just world.
…. a fair hearing in court is exactly what the vast majority of us want. I don’t want to see anyone sent to the gallows.
No? If these “hearings” indicated that the accused was indeed a war criminal, would you prefer if that war criminal were sent home?
What about Radovan Karadzic? If evidence points to his guilt, would you want him sent home too?
What about Bush and Cheney? If they were ever brought to trial in the Hague, and were found guilty, what punishment do you propose for them?
Surely, if we followed that pattern, Eichman should have been merely given a fair hearing too, instead of being sent to the gallows in the end.
There has been a complaint filed with the Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC against Bush and Cheney. It requested an investigation of the forced disappearances and torture of persons that had been abducted from the territories of state parties to the Rome Statute. In several instances, the U.S. Courts have refused to hear these cases for reasons of national security. That sort of thing usually invites the application of universal jurisdiction.
“national security” means covering the asses of the nation’s war criminals.
No, that’s secondary; the democrats would love to see Shrub’s little circle of neocons in the dock, but both parties immunize Israel; jews contribute 60% of donations to all democrat candidates, and 30% to all republican candidates. Donations are steered by AIPAC.
Avi,
I would like to see them in a prison for the rest of their lives. Not only is that humane, but a quick and painless death is an easy out for all of them.
And in the US MSM? Probably about as much ink as the Hebron terrorist benefit protest did.
Here is a screen capture of the Google news page related to IDF + Waldorf
Anyone see what’s missing?
aparisian, you are a miserable lil man arent u?
long live palestine…restore it to its former independent glory, huh?
Einstein? am i your enemy or something? why do you insult me?
long live palestine…restore it to its former independent glory, huh?
Why do you find this offensive Einstein? don’t you believe in two states solution? Whats wrong with calling a cat a cat? and war criminals war criminals?
I find it offensive, parisian, because you scream long live palestine, which is a totally nonsensical and historically inaccurate statement.
this shows your ignorance. anyone who chants long live palestine, is basically saying…long live foreign western occupiers of the middle east (and the whole world)
so yes i know you are a proud french man, proud of your country’s occupation and looting of many indigenous sovereign nations throughout the “now called third world” the “so-called poor” countries. the fact that you cant arrive at that equation is disturbing, the fact that you are just one in so so so many is truly sad and tragic.
if you want to do good learn your history before blindly supporting the cause du jour. “long live the NWO” “long live oppresion and suppresion and corporate control” “long live PALESTINE”
those who chant long live palestine are those who ironically don’t want palestinians to “live long”
I find it offensive, parisian, because you scream long live palestine, which is a totally nonsensical and historically inaccurate statement.
Historically? How many years Jews lived in the holy land? and how many years non Jews lived in the same land?
this shows your ignorance. anyone who chants long live palestine, is basically saying…long live foreign western occupiers of the middle east (and the whole world)
None sense, Palestine is occupied by western occupiers yes they come from the USA/Russia/Europe. People here offer them reconciliation but they are very hungry for more lands theft and blood.
so yes i know you are a proud french man, proud of your country’s occupation and looting of many indigenous sovereign nations throughout the “now called third world” the “so-called poor” countries. the fact that you cant arrive at that equation is disturbing, the fact that you are just one in so so so many is truly sad and tragic.
Nope i m not proud of atrocities committed against any countries and i fight for their rights.
“Historically? How many years Jews lived in the holy land? and how many years non Jews lived in the same land? ”
Jews have lived in the holy land continuously since the destruction of the second temple. what is your point?
“None sense, Palestine is occupied by western occupiers yes they come from the USA/Russia/Europe. People here offer them reconciliation but they are very hungry for more lands theft and blood.”
At least you preface what you are about to say “none sense” because your statement is horse shite. if you are saying the Jewish people are USA Russia and Europe than you are pathetically mistaken, and prrobably your confusion is due to your own confusing “Jewish” identity
“Nope i m not proud of atrocities committed against any countries and i fight for their rights. ”
how by supporting the “Palestinian” cause? that is just a re-labeling of your country’s imperialism
For someone who claimed to be African American, you seem really really eager to say what (certain) white people want to hear. “Ooh, those backwards non-Western peoples! They need white folks to colonize them and tell them what to do!”
Chaos, what gives you that idea? because I support Jewish independance and sovereignty in their ancestoral homeland?
I am against Western society. There is no Judeo-Christian tradition. Judeo-Christian refers to the hellenistic tradition. I believe all christians are pagans and that western society (mostly “christian” but whether or not a westerner believes or not) are pagans.
The true resolution of the conflict in the middle east will only come about when the foreign Western occupiers and instigators leave these lands and allow the people of Shem to work out their problems by themselves.
Where do you live, Einseinsays?
So, the US Congress is either ignorant or a bunch of liars? They are always proclaiming the USA’s judeo-Christian heritage–and simultaneously telling us that Israel is special because Israel and the USA share the same values.
I too think the people of Shem should be left alone to work out their problems themselves–accordingly, to enchance such independence, wouldn’t it be
helpful if the USA cut off all foreign aid to Israel, as well as severing all the
US sweetheart memorandums regarding Israel?
Time to let the Shem bird fly out of the gilded cage, yes?
From the Jewish Encyclopedia:
The people descended from Shem is thus the master people destined to “lord it” over Canaan, the slave people committing such dire atrocities as are hidden in the legend of Noah’s exposure. According to Budde, Japheth—which name means “beauty”—represents the Phenicians, while Canaan, signifying “lowness,” “vulgarity,” represents the aboriginal population of Palestine. Thus this triad would result: lordship (Shem), beauty (Japheth), and meanness (Canaan).
Read more: link to jewishencyclopedia.com
YES and YES
US Congress are both ignorant and a bunch of liars.
The US should not only stop aid to Israel but stop aid to all middle eastern countries and DEFINITELY cease waging wars everywhere in the world and especially in the Middle East.
US should have a minimalist foreign policy, US citizens should be FAR more outraged with the fact that the US invests 10 times more in foreign occupations and invasions than it does for its OWN citizens. while spending on education and growth in the US is cut or frozen, spending on Afghanistan and Iraq increases…doesn’t anyone find that disturbing?
what about change and hope?
So, if you are an American–you didn’t say–you favor Dennis Kucinich and/or Ron Paul’s take on foreign policy? Or at least on foreign aid? Paul would cut foreign aid across the board.
Ron Paul all the way…cut all across the board. a government’s first responsibility should be to their citizens.
Einstein was an intelligent human being unlike some around here !! Here is what he said a propos “The Jewish State”
“I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. …the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power….I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks…”
– Einstein speech in New York, 1938.
Can you imagine what it would be like if Einstein were alive and blogging today? Witty would be just totally savaging him for “turning traitor” on his own “race.”
Yep he would certainly be labeled as “self hating Jew”. He would be a One Stater because he was a committed socialist and anti-nationalist.
worse they take off your jewishness and consider you an anti-semi enemy! Einstein that reminds you something?
aparisian, quit calling yourself a Jew. anytime you do, you are being a racist.
i get it. you have jewish ancestors, but you yourself are a parisian, secular, no ties of any kind to the religion or tradition of your ancestors. you cant play both sides of the fence. you cant assimilate and call yourself a Jew.
the reason you (and phil) so desperately hold on to your Jewish label is out of poor elitism and racism. you feel somehow superior due to your “Jewish” identity. however, this is a racist belief.
i’m sorry to tell you that you are a racist and hypocrite, but if i don’t who will, brother?
Einstein: “you cant assimilate and call yourself a Jew.”
Says who? You? Who died and made you God? You can assimilate and be a Catholic. You can assimilate and be a Muslim. You can assimilate and be a Jew. Founder and publisher of The New York Times, Adolph Ochs, wrote a statement to that effect 91 years ago.
First of all don’t call me brother because i m not your brother.
aparisian, quit calling yourself a Jew. anytime you do, you are being a racist.
Call me self hating jew, anti-semi goy, racist or whatever you want i wont submit, i won’t close my mouth.
The racists are those who believe in exceptionalism, who support an army of oppressors, a country that practises ethnic cleansing, and cold baby killings.
i get it. you have jewish ancestors, but you yourself are a parisian, secular, no ties of any kind to the religion or tradition of your ancestors. you cant play both sides of the fence. you cant assimilate and call yourself a Jew.
Yes don’t assimilate and be racist to goys, is this your message? I know this personally, my so called “Jew community” rejected me because i m gay, because i dared to say no i don’t take all of your project.
Wake up my fellow “Jew”!
Says who? says logic. Yes, Adolph Ochs is a great example of how this is so.
aparisian, you are the one who is exceptionalist. think about it. anyone from any race or color can be a Jew, that is my belief. You believe that a Jew is someone who is born that way from a Jewish mother (take yourself as an example) whether or not you actually believe in any of the tenets of the Jewish faith. You use your “Jewish” label to seperate yourself, when you are just like your fellow Parisians, you share their beliefs culture and languange, yet you are DIFFERENT from them as you are special and Jewish and your fellow countrymen are not.
That is racism. how you don’t see that is beyond me…however, it makes no matter, as call yourself what you want, say you are protesting in the name of Jews, it won’t matter. the true Jewish people are moving forward according to Allah’s will, may his destiny be fulfilled speedily and in our days.
keep spitting non sense and contradictions.
What i was saying that Judaism is a religion and not people (Read shlomo sand), like Islam and Christianity. In other words i don’t give more credit to Jewish creeds more than Islamic or Christians creeds. I learnt to respect that’s all. I also think you can categorise yourself in one of these categories which doesn’t mean that you accept all of it.
Religion become dangerous when it dictate those who don’t believe in it how to live etc… Assimilation is peace and living together. So how dare you fake einstein you keep saying that “i feel different from my fellow parisians” ?
the true Jewish people are moving forward according to Allah’s will, may his destiny be fulfilled speedily and in our days.
oh “the true Jewish people”? Who are the true Jewish people? Zionists huh? Those who support terrorist Israel? Those who killed the inhabitants of the land of Israel? demolished their houses, destroyed their lives and even uprooted their olive trees and practise ethnic cleansing? In wchich planet you live? What are you going to tell your “Allah” when you meet him? No matter Allah they were goys?
where the hell do you live? where do you get the nerve to call Israel a terrorist state when the terrorist history of France is much longer much darker and far more broad in scope?
I am against war and against killing. you are a shill for your western imperialist government. “palestinians” are your concern now? not all of course just some “palestinians” those living in Israel, those living in Lebanon and Syria those arabs that your government bought and sold, like they did/do in North Africa in Morrocco, in Algiers, in Tunisia. those arabs you do not care about.
you are a hypocrite and a bigot. and elitist racist, get over yourself “Jew”
i read shlomo sands he says nothing new… nothing that a true Jew did not already know and acknowledge at least 3 times a day.
only you are “shocked” by that revelation as now it makes you question your “birthright” to your elitist pass. how can you continue to call yourself a Jew (by virtue of your special birth) if perhaps your ancestors were actually converts?
Aref, you are late to the party, the fact why you all idealize Einstein has been made clear to me.
Truthfully, I am not a big fan of Einstein. His work on nuclear science helped contribute to the Greatest War Crime in human history, the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
A crime, i might mention, that has not a miniscule percentage of the support to prosecute like the Goldstone’s “report”. and yet the loss of life was somewhere like 100s of times more. oh well, those were really nonWesterners…so who here cares about them..
Wow. Talk about contradictions and distortions of logic.
First, Einstein was a scientist and his pursuit of science and discovery was not intended to develop weapons of mass destruction. The fact that a government and its military seized upon his discoveries and theories to develop a weapon cannot be blamed on Einstein who was a pacifist and declared that he would not participate in war. Your distorted logic can also lead to blaming Newton for everything that is bad because of his discovery of the laws of gravity which helps in developing all sorts of weapons. Get your logic straight.
I find it very interesting that someone like you calling the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki a crime against humanity–which I unequivocally agree with–condones the massacre of innocent Palestinians by the Zionist State and finds justifications for that. Why, I might ask, is it a crime to kill innocent Japanese and is not a crime to kill innocent Palestinians? Can I conclude that this is motivated by racism and bigotry? You either condemn all massacres of innocent civilians based on principle or pick and choose which ones deserve to die and which whose killing is a crime based on racist and bigoted notions just like those which white supremacists adopt.
I don’t know who you are and I don’t care what skin color or religion or gender you might be. I do care however, about what you write and what you express through your words and all I have to say with regards to this is that you have a serious deficiency of knowledge. So please spare us the lectures about humanity and racism when you yourself justify inhumanity and a condone racism.
i don’t condone war or killing of innocent civilians. thats all
i do support and believe in the rights of Jews to establish and independant and sovereign State in their ancestoral homeland.
i am against the continued neo-liberal agenda to rob indigenous peoples everywhere of their sovereignty and resources (i.e. latin america, Africa, Afghan, Iraq, etc etc)
i am against the IMF the world bank Nato the UN all tools of Western imperialism.
There are some reasonable arguments favoring Truman’s decision to bomb
said two cities with nuclear bombs:
link to en.wikipedia.org
I guess you and Einsteinsays have thoughtfully considered them? Do the (rationally projected) ends ever justify the means?
Just asking.
Since you both agree Truman made the wrong decision, I wonder if you and Einsteinsays agree in that case for the same reasons…
And how does an answer to that case reflect on your disagreement here on
the I-P situation?
And, considering the history leading up to the founding of the state of Israel, you see
no inconsistency at all in your comment?
i don’t condone war or killing of innocent civilians. thats all
Even the killing of innocent Jewish people?
i do support and believe in the rights of Jews to establish and independant and sovereign State in their ancestoral homeland.
Jews can live in Palestine under Palestinian sovereignty, there was no need for a state.
i am against the continued neo-liberal agenda to rob indigenous peoples everywhere of their sovereignty and resources (i.e. latin america, Africa, Afghan, Iraq, etc etc)
At the same time you continue to support the robbing of Zionists on the land of the indigenous peoples in Palestine.
i am against the IMF the world bank Nato the UN all tools of Western imperialism.
you support imperialism when it is in the interests of the terrorist state of Israel.
You are full of BS! none and contraédictions
“in their ancestoral homeland. ”
When does history start or end in your opinion? How come it is the ancestral home of the Jews and not the home of those who live there?
I wish that you actually read and think about what you write because what you write above is nothing more that just a bunch of contradictory nonsense. You claim to be against robbing of indigenous peoples yet in the same breath you support the robbing of Palestine to establish a Jewish State because at soe point in history Jews lived there. Arabs occupied Spain for 800 years. Does that make Spain the ancestral home of the Arabs? Think about what write if you don’t want to look like and idiot.
Citizen, how can you justify the use of the atomic bomb?
there is absolutely NO DEBATE! it is a war crime, pure and simple.
if you are outraged at gaza, yet you can somehow civilly debate Hiroshima and Nagasaki than you really need to examine your true anti Israel motives as it is certainly not what you are purporting (i.e. you care for human rights and civilian lives)
i dont see the connection, citizen, please enlighten me as to the connection between the creation of the State of Israel and the US use of an atom bomb on Japan? seriously, how is this related much less inconsistent?
aparisian:
“Even the killing of innocent Jewish people?”
once again, maybe there is a languange barrier as I have no idea what you meant by that…
“Jews can live in Palestine under Palestinian sovereignty, there was no need for a state.”
Why should it be under “Palestinian” sovereignty? when in the entire history of this land was it controlled by “Palestinians”? What is a “palestinian”? how would you define what is palestinian? Does that include the people of transjordan? transjordan was referred to as Palestine under the british occupation.
you have no idea what you are fighting for, because thats how the western powers want you to think you are a shill and joke. again you need to understand that your supposed support of “palestinians” is the continuation of the imperialism that your government wants to impose on both arab and jewish residents of this land… but oh well it is a catchy slogan…”free free palestine”
“At the same time you continue to support the robbing of Zionists on the land of the indigenous peoples in Palestine.
you support imperialism when it is in the interests of the terrorist state of Israel.
You are full of BS! none and contraédictions ”
you are full of contradictions learn your history. Zionists (rather Jews) who have returned to their ancestoral homeland is a very natural correction of one of the biggest injustices and crimes of human civilization. they are not occupiers and not colonialists, colonialists imply that they are doing this on behalf of a foreign power.
to the extent that the modern State of Israel accepts and collaborates with the West, they will have their retribution as those who do so are committing high crimes against the Almighty.
Israel should accept it’s place as a middle eastern state and establish a Jewish theocratic monarchy similar to Saudi Arabia
ES, I’m convinced you’re nothing more than an attention-hungry troll. I’m actually leaning toward the idea that you’re just some obese WASPy white kid in the suburbs with a desperate urge to bully other people. You obviously aren’t anything you claim to be.
i am not claiming to be anything….
but you are just admitting that i am right.
Oh, sure, ES. And war is peace, and ignorance is power, I’m sure. Can’t you go back to playing Call of Duty now?
so much bullshit to debate with you ES. You are right?
>> sorry right about what?
A Palestinian is a member of the Palestinian people who are related to Palestine.
you are full of contradictions learn your history. Zionists (rather Jews) who have returned to their ancestoral homeland is a very natural correction of one of the biggest injustices and crimes of human civilization. they are not occupiers and not colonialists, colonialists imply that they are doing this on behalf of a foreign power.
Keep repeating the same bullshit, some of your likes kept repeating we returned to a land without people, when in fact they massacred and ethnicly the indeginous people.
ES, why don’t you read some Finkelestein or Chomsky? or Maybe they are not Jewish enough for you?
Wow, he is nuttier than the proverbial fruitcake, huh?
Maybe the Einsteins should have concentrated more on avoiding a dangerous consanguinity, and a little less on physics.
Hey Einstein, when you get a paper cut, do you bleed a whole lot more than you should?
Thats so funny Mooser! But you know he might take away your jewishness and you will get categorized with bad goy boys!
ES, read what the dissent Israeli Jews do link to youtube.com
What is Palestine, or don’t you understand English you Parisian dunce?
What were Palestine’s borders? How does one decide who is Palestinian?
these are all false constructs. I am not saying there aren’t arabs residing in Israel, and I don’t like to see them live in the condition they are currently in. But the fact remains “Palestine” and “Palestinians” are fictional constructs, that exist only once you have defined “Israel”
unless of course you refer to British Mandate of Palestine, which would therefore include all of what is now the State of Jordan and parts of Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. Therefore if you subscribe to the idea of an indiginous “Palestinians” a person born in Amman would be a Palestinian as much as someone from Nablus (also a false name) and someone from Sheikh Muwannis or Ramat Aviv.
So you are basically championing a divisional distractional technique that the West is using in order to keep this region de-stabilized so they can continue to rob and control the mid east’s resources.
“we” didnt return to a land, Jews returned to the land. They were people here but far more people (i.e. non Jews) arrived here at the same time.
You dont get to cry over the “massacre” of peoples when your country, France, is still involved in massacring and raping the “poorer” nations of the world. You want Justice go and riot in the streets of Paris. The re-establishment of the Jewish people in their ancestorial homeland is a Just and noble cause and if the West would quit manipulating the currupt leaders of this nascent State then true justice, peace and prosperity will be realized for all peoples in the mideast, both Jew and Arab. those that fear this new age, and rightfully so, are those pigs who worship the false idols and pagan practices of the Western world. those westerners who have profitted off the lives of all the “poor” nations of the world.
Tell france to pay reparations to Haiti instead of blockading and sanctioning those people for shaking off the yolk of Napolean.
Incidentally, I’ve read plenty of Chomsky and Finklestein (at least Chomsky unlike you has put aside his “Jewish” identity) you and finklestein are bigotted hypocrites. you are not a Jew so stop confusing yourself and others.
Can we ban this loony? I don’t usually call for this sort of thing, but “Einstein says” is obviously an idiot who can’t read DECADES of UN resolutions and CENTURIES of maps. And I’m sick and tired of him dragging the name of a great Jewish intellectual hero threw the offal.
I’m reporting him. And I usually don’t trifle with the “Report Abuse” button out of a sense of fair play, but I take no joy in sparring with somebody who’s so painfully intellectually deficient.
Why ban? He provides some real comic relief with his idiotic crap. He obviously have no clue of what he is talking about but regurgitates stuff he heard and makes a great mix of things into one big salad of nonsense.
Chaos, it’s funny that you call me the intellectually deficient one here. I make compelling arguments that fly in the face of your circle jerk hatefest, so instead of manning up and defending your ignorant position, you choose to ban me.
I understand why you would want to ban me as my logical and thorough understanding of the conflict and the real aggressors and instigators is seen by you as a threat.
look how hypocritical you are, i am revelling in this, i hope that one of these mods agrees, that would certainly affirm my belief that you are all hypocritical and propaganda (or hasbara) spewers
no one here is a real liberal
Aref, I regurgitate truth, it makes no sense to you because you are so deeply entrenched in comfortable lies that make you happy in your little world.
if you need me to clarify any of my points then please draw up a list of questions, i’d be happy to enlighten you.
are you a Nakba denier?
parisian, that is a ridiculous question…
The term the “nakba”relates to the establishment of the State of Israel.
The term “nakba” means “catastrophe”. Obviously from the perspective of those who oppose the State’s creation that may be the perspective. And I believe that for some that is a very legitimate gripe.
Does it make me happy that people suffered or suffer in the realization of an independant Jewish State in the land of Israel? no. a resounding no. All people’s suffering is horrible and abhorable and deeply regrettable.
If you are short of a reason to attend, read this:
link to electronicintifada.net
i did and posted it earlier and no one paid attention. There is this one as well link to btselem.org
Imagine, beating a 10 year old so badly as to cause internal bleeding. Of course when this was done by German soldiers during WWII that was wrong and is something to be considered worth remembering. Ethan Bronner and Linda Gradstein work hard not to report the news. In any case, I was hoping Nora Barrows-Friedman’s article would show up in Common Dreams and it has.
i know that made me cry! Damnit Israel and its fascits supportors.
I am hoping that someone from this site will be there and report here.
Still nothing on the protest from the US MSM.
I know these are bad times for all newspapers but I am wondering how many tables the NY Times has purchased for tonight’s IDF fundraiser.
Cheaper to send a reporter out to the street, but they don’t seem to have done that.
Oops. Here is a link to a video on YouTube
link to youtube.com
“One of history’s injustices”
Yeah, I feel that way every day the sun comes up! Why didn’t time stop for us Jews at some completely fictional, let alone indefinite point when we were firmly in charge of some fictional and indefinite piece of ground. And then we could all marry our sisters and breed true!
LOL. Yeah, Germany tried to turn back a broken clock to a time that never existed in its history. We all know how well that worked out. Sometimes, I wish history wasn’t so damn repetitive.
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