Dear Mr. John Daggett, Oshkosh Corporation spokesman. The following item is from Defense Professional News:
"Oshkosh Corp., Oshkosh, Wis., is being awarded $16,820,812 for firm-fixed-price delivery order #0122, under a previously awarded indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract (M67854-04-D-5016) for the purchase of 137 Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement (MTVR) reducible height armor kits and four MTVR reducible height wrecker armor kits for the Navy Seabees.
Work will be performed in Israel (85 percent) and Oshkosh, Wis. (15 percent), and work is expected to be completed by June 30, 2011. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Marine Corps System Command, Quantico, Va., is the contracting activity."
Why, when the US is need of jobs, will 85% of the work on this contract for Oshkosh be done in Israel? Thanks, in advance, for providing this information.
Jeff Blankfort
Host, Takes on the World KZYX & Z, 90.7, 91.5, Mendocino Co. Public Radio, www.kzyx.org
It is much worse than you think, :)
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The answer is simple. Israel knows how to do it well.
American soldiers and marines care about coming home alive, not how to make every Arab in the world happy.
When an American or European woman puts her children ona bus or airplane, she doesn’t say, ” I am glad we don’t have ZIONIST security here. It might be unfair to Arabs”.
Unfortunately, Israel has a lot of experience with “Freedom fighters”.
Americans think more highly of fairness than a lot of golems might believe.
you need new material, rachelgolem; you’ve used this bit before. I shot it down when you did, but you did not stick around to defend your lame argument.
If Israel cared a little bit more about “loving its neighbor as itself,” and a little bit less about killing them with greater efficiency, American soldiers and marines would not have to worry about fighting Israel’s wars and “coming home alive.”
The longer I think about your comment the more outrageous it is: I recall from a post on Dissident Veteran, about wounded Israeli soldiers who visited US soldiers in Washington state, that there are only about 600 Israeli soldiers who suffered war injuries that have required lengthy rehabilitation. 600. There are over 30,000 American soldiers who will never walk again, or never toss a football to their kids, or never have a night’s sleep without being tormented with PTSD.
so stow your crap claim that Israel is doing favors for US soldiers and marines. If Israel were not killing and oppressing Arabs, American and European women would not have to worry about their children on a bus or airplane.
Dear Psycho, I could drop you off at a New York City fire house and you can tell the fire fighters that 19 Saudi men killed 343 NYC firemen to help the Palestinians. I am sure they would love to hear that.
Those firemen are too busy dying because Congress was too busy passing resolutions patting Israel on the back for using American weapons to slaughter Palestinians wholesale instead of conducting inquiries and approving funding for extensive medical care while there was still time to prevent deaths from chronic conditions.
rachel, why thousands of American soldiers are dead or maimed:
link to mondoweiss.net
“Israel knows how to do it well”
Yeah, tell that to the widows and orphans of the Merkava crews that got whacked in Lebanon by a bunch of amateurs known as Hezbollah. When it comes to armour the British do it a lot better! A British Challenger II tank was hit by 70 RPGs in Basra fighting Israel’s war and kept going, it took a lot less than that to put the Merkavas out of action.
The only thing that Israel knows how to do well is run prison camps.
um the armor on the 2 tanks is the same base technology
AFAIK, the Merkava does not have Chobham (or Dorchester) composite armour which is fitted to both the M1 Abrams and the Challenger. In Lebanon, the Merkava was attacked with weapons that had proved useless against the Abrams and Challenger in Iraq back in 1991.
The “Zionist Empire” is the world’s largeest manufacturer of antibiotics and probably made the Intel microprocessor in your computer. Contrary to the what the angry, dysfuntional, childless contributors to this blog believe, Israel does not exist solely to persecute other people. And unlike Iran, we actually have gay people. And they live very well here.
“unlike Iran, we actually have gay people. And they live very well here.”
Same lame argument as recently made by David Harris: Gay couples can walk around Tel Aviv holding hands, and nobody cares, which would be impossible in Saudi Arabia. Now let the Tel Aviv gay couple walk around holding hands in ultra-orthodox neighborhoods in Jerusalem, where you have segregated sidewalks for men and women, a dress code, and where women sit at the back of the bus, and see what happens. And how does the settler movement feel about gay rights?
Interesting how you attack homophobes AND childless people. Fits the pattern of presenting Israel to Liberals as a gay haven while simultaneously using homophobia to elect pro-Israel Evangelicals.
If their tech is so great (very dubious) then they shouldn’t be the largest recipient of US foreign aid (you know, above Chad, Haiti, Appalachia).
Mondoweiss readers, see Pam Geller clone rachelgolem’s site link to rachelgolem.com
spot on, munro
Or don’t. It’s pretty crude and doesn’t really deserve the ad margins.
Then again, everything is worth seeing once, I suppose, if only to confirm objectively how hideous it really is. Two girls, one…
“The only thing that Israel knows how to do well is run prison camps.”
CACI, TITAN, Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Guantanamo… Guess the common denominator.
I look forward to hearing what the people of Wisconsin say who have probably heard of the wonderful news of the $17 million contract won by a state corporation.
The people of Bennigton, Vermont are quite happy with this:
link to vermontbiz.com
Plasan has already created 220 jobs there.
nice find eee, too bad it fell on deaf ears.
That’s addressed further down the thread, Mr. Can’t Read S***.
We should make sure they know about it. And their reps in Congress.
This is just more proof that Blankfort hates Israel more than he cares about the well-being of Americans or the safety of our troops.
I would be interested to hear the response from Oshkosh, JB. Did they mention anything about saving American lives or perhaps their plant in Vermont?
You should really do some research before you write BS letters and then share your ‘heroic’ actions with the MW community.
You’re the one who wanted to send American troops to die in Iraq for nothing. And want to do the same to our men and women by sending them into Iran for yet more lies about phantom WMDs.
Which isn’t surprising because your friends fled the US in order to join a foreign military instead of fighting for the nation of their birth, so you have no vested interest in what happens to “goyim” Americans. I’m still wondering why you’re still here.
You know what’s almost as bad a couple of traitors? One single coward.
yonira,
Your wail is inappropriate. Blankfort doesn’t have to prove one more than the other, and he doesn’t in that letter. The issues are mutually exclusive.
The language of the question makes it clear: Why, when the US is need of jobs, will 85% of the work on this contract for Oshkosh be done in Israel?
Furthermore, why is any foreign country fulfilling any US defense contract need? That was considered treasonous at one time. No intelligent country out-sources its defense industry; smaller countries may buy better bombs and other materiel for expediency from other countries, but we are not a smaller country and we have need of jobs here.
um you do the 2 techs that make are main battle tank our british and german right? there is nothing wrong with getting top notch goods from other countries only when we can do the job our selves
MRW, I don’t see how you guys can be pissed about saving American lives and creating American jobs. It is nonsense. The hate runs deep in you all I am afraid.
“Saving Americans lives?” American lives that you WASTED by carting them off to Iraq for a lie so that you could have Arabs killed from the safety of whichever Dakota you’re dithering around in? Seriously?
How is the well being of Americans in Wisconsin improved by US taxpayers subsidizing job exports to Israel?
Putting the welfare of another country and people above your own, puts you in the company of Jonathan Pollard.
the people in wisconson could build just as good stuff as the miltary state of Israel and it would be benefited people in our country. the fact that this is being done in Israel and not internally is a travesty. put people to work in our country not send more money to real fascists
I have not had a response from Oshkosh, Yoni, but I do admit that I do despise Israel and what it represents, a Jewish supremacist state that has total contempt for international law as well as for non-Jews, even those who mindlessly support its existence.
This doesn’t happen to include the entire Israeli Jewish population that has made it what it is today but most of it, that overwhelming majority that has participated like “good Germans” in Israel’s ongoing criminality. Most of the Israeli Jews that I know there happen to share my opinion.
I’m not sure who you are referring to when you say “our troops,” but I have a good idea.
I do want to thank you for pointing out even further Oshkosh’s complicity with the Israeli arms industry. Up to now I think it’s been off the charts.
I’m not sure who you are referring to when you say “our troops,” but I have a good idea.
JB? you wrote the article right? you know the armor kits are for US vehicles. Why would you ask me such a question?
Answer me this, what fuels you more, your hatred of Israel or the safety of US troops? It is a simple question. I ask it to anyone here who finds anything wrong with my disdain for JB and his BS ‘letter’
What’s wrong with your disdain for JB is that you and your friends have no loyalty to the US, so it comes across as rank hypocrisy and fifth column incitement.
“that overwhelming majority that has participated like “good Germans” in Israel’s ongoing criminality”
Poor analogy. Nobody ever claimed that Nazi Germany was a democracy. Long before the attack on Jews, the Nazi dictatorship cracked down on any political opponents, most of them Germans, and they did the same later in annexed and occupied territories/countries. The Holocaust happened under cover of a devastating war that engulfed Germany and Europe. None of this applies to Israel, despite frequent and limited (wrt duration and military/civilian casualties or scale of domestic destruction) military conflicts. It applies even less to Israel’s closest and most supportive allies, be it (West) Germany, Western Europe or the US since the post-war period: all functional democracies who enjoyed peace (domestic peace at least) and prosperity, while supporting Israel establishing the Jewish state on the backs of the Palestinians, in permanent violation of international law and the very principles laid down at the trials in Nuremberg. The post-war ‘good Germans’ , ‘good Americans’ or ‘good Israelis’ are in a complacency and hypocrisy league of their own, while patting themselves on the back for having overcome the demon of anti-semitism
Let us remind ourselves that as the US marches ever faster and ever onward to a more efficient police state, approved of by our intellectual establishment since it is being done by Democrats, knowledgeable Germans looked on in horror with the naive expectation that Hitler’s next awful step would somehow open peoples’ eyes.
I have family in Wisconsin. Lately, we’re getting rather used to (albeit rather tired) of disloyal corporations exporting more jobs than anything else from our state. But its par for the course. And then, when foreign corporations actually choose to invest in Wisconsin, like say for high speed rail, stupid right wing politicians will have none of that.
I look forward to Wisconsin becoming a socialist powerhouse again over the course of the next decade or so. Really, we have nowhere to go but up from here, once people get a taste of what Republicans have to offer.
You are a liar Chaos, I’ve never supported the war in Iraq or an attack on Iran. You are the most dishonest poster on here. You add nothing the conversation except lies and BS accusations.
As for my friends, screw you, they wanted to move to Israel, in moving to Israel you need to serve in the army. I am not seeing you bad mouth anyone else who decides to move to a different country.
Can you address anything in this posting by JB? You have turned into a pile of crap troll, who doesn’t even bother to stay at all relevant to the topic at hand.
You must have been bored while I was gone, huh? You’ve done nothing but assault the author of this article, and then assault me.
Right above this post is a post from me that is relevant to the debate. So your statement either makes you a liar, delusional or illiterate.
you know the blog is moderated correct? we aren’t live blogging here Chaos.
It’s hard to tell, with the frequency at which your vicious, pointless comments actually get out here.
As an addendum? There are plenty of Americans who become citizens of other countries without shirking military duties back home to take them up elsewhere. Especially when those duties mandate that they break international law (and basic guidelines of human decency and morality).
Face it. Your friends turned their backs on the US in a time of crisis.
So your friends wanted to move to Israel, Yoni? It is not quite the same as an American, for example, who decides to live for a while in France. Moving to Israel and joining the army is a political statement of a different order and raises the question, at what point did they become more loyal to Israel then to the US? At what point did ambassador Michael Oren?
Since decisions made by Israel and the actions agents of its agents, paid and unpaid (sayanim) in the US, have implications for this country and the lives of Americans, questions like these need to be asked. Whic country gets your loyalty, Yoni?
Sayanim JB? Really? Google it once, it brings up the whose who of hate sites. #2 might interesting you:
OCCUPIED AMERICA – Part I – SAYANIM!
link to whitenationalism.com
David Icke seems a bit concerned it was deleted from Wikipedia:
link to davidicke.com
Why do you have an encyclopedic knowledge of right wing hate sites?
Doesn’t surprise me one bit.
I spent part of my youth there (Oshkosh), family, etc. I learned about the company from my mother, who at the time was working as a real estate agent, and had met one of the higher ups (who is British, apparently, but I’m not sure) who was looking to buy a house in the area. They had/have a huge contract in Afghanistan, I think. Beaucoup dinero, they’re not going to spit on money coming from the Pentagon (US taxpayer), it’s a client all the “defense” contractors are fighting over, for obvious reasons.
Maybe Israel provides cheaper labor for them? I’m going to look into this a little.
PS the link above for “Defense Professional News” isn’t good, it should be :
link to defpro.com
Also from defenseindustrydaily.com :
and :
Plasan :
link to plasansasa.com
I wouldn’t be surprised if Congress were to authorize US front companies to spend taxpayer dollars in Israel or in occupied Palestine to make weapons for the US government which Congress would then donate to Israel to use against Palestinians. Israel might turn to its cheapest labor force members, Palestinians under occupation, to do the actual work.
…or Africans and other foreign and migrant workers, or illegal immigrants for which presently prison camps are being built in the Negev.