‘Proud Zionist’ tweets that assassinating Obama is ‘tempting’

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ABC News:

Hours after Pennsylvania State Police arrested a 21-year-old Idaho man for allegedly firing a semi-automatic rifle at the White House, the top student official for the College Republicans at the University of Texas tweeted that the idea of assassinating President Obama was “tempting.”
At 2:29 p.m. ET, UT’s Lauren E. Pierce wrote: “Y’all as tempting as it may be, don’t shoot Obama. We need him to go down in history as the WORST president we’ve EVER had! #2012.”
Oh: Connecting the dots… Lauren has now made her twitter profile private, but someone grabbed a screen shot. I am told she has worked for Christians United for Israel.

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81 Responses

  1. Dan Crowther
    November 17, 2011, 12:02 pm

    Her little twitter tag or whatever should continue……”Staunch believer in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. ”

    This has to be a little unsettling for jewish zionists though, right? I mean this girl is 100% white power!

    • Justice Please
      November 17, 2011, 1:23 pm

      “unsettling for jewish zionists though, right? I mean this girl is 100% white power!”

      Dan, Zionists like white power-racists. Because the latter scare/beat up non-Zionist Jews and push them into the arms of the former. Just as Zionists liked Hitler, he gave them masses of Jewish refugees to colonize Palestine with.

      • DBG
        November 17, 2011, 1:39 pm

        Just as Zionists liked Hitler, he gave them masses of Jewish refugees to colonize Palestine with.

        You are a sick individual. the disgusting comment section is getting a little nauseating.

      • Dan Crowther
        November 17, 2011, 2:55 pm

        DBG –

        Not for nothin, but Im pretty sure I’ve read about Zionist/Nazi collaboration in regards to jewish emigration out of Germany – is this not accurate?

      • DICKERSON3870
        November 17, 2011, 3:04 pm

        RE: “You are a sick individual…” ~ DBG

        SPEAKING OF “SICK INDIVIDUALS”, FROM: “The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict”, Published by Jews for Justice in the Middle East:

        (excerpt)Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis
        “As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun (NMO)..[The proposal stated:] ‘The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East… The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany’s side’… The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI’s military power ‘negligible.’ ” — Allan Brownfield in The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs, July/August 1998.

        ENTIRE “ORIGIN” BOOKLET – link to ifamericansknew.org
        P.S. ALSO SEE: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis - link to scribd.com

      • Sumud
        November 17, 2011, 4:24 pm

        You are a sick individual. the disgusting comment section is getting a little nauseating.

        Maybe you should educate yourself a little before getting all self righteous DBG:

        The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine

      • Charon
        November 17, 2011, 5:57 pm

        Ummm, hello? Haavara Agreement? The Nazis even allowed the Zionists to set up training camps for German Jews for their new life in Palestine. It just wasn’t very popular because nobody wanted to live in the desert. Then there is this gem:

        In 1940, Lehi proposed intervening in World War II on the side of Nazi Germany. It offered assistance in transferring the Jews of Europe to Palestine, in return for Germany’s help in expelling Britain from Mandatory Palestine. Late in 1940, Lehi representative Naftali Lubenchik went to Beirut to meet German official Werner Otto von Hentig (who also was involved with the Haavara or Transfer Agreement, which had been transferring German Jews and their funds to Palestine since 1933). Lubenchik told von Hentig that Lehi had not yet revealed its full power and that they were capable of organizing a whole range of anti-British operations.

        There’s more but eventually it fell through. The SS, the Gestapo, and even Hitler himself supported Zionism. This didn’t change their antisemitism, but they didn’t care if Jews had a country of their own so long as they weren’t in Germany. The Nazis had planned to re-locate Jews to Madagascar. Google the Madagascar Plan. The war later broke out and then of course the holocaust. But dubious statements from DBG himself (and I don’t mean you) and Golda Meir really have me suspicious about how connected the Zionists were to this. The world may never know

      • Charon
        November 17, 2011, 6:45 pm

        Good stuff, DICKERSON3870. I just read today that Folke Bernadotte, the UN envoy assassinated by Lehi (which Shamir helped plot), was involved with the White Buses program which rescued victims from concentration camps.

        Sick individuals indeed. In addition to collaborating with Nazis and murdering a UN peace mediator, they also murdered Walter Guinness, the highest ranking British official in the ME. Shamir was also involved with that. They mined the Cairo-Haifa trains, participated in the Deir Yassin massacre, blew up police stations, among several other vile acts. And they are just one of the Zionist terror groups. The terrorists who were arrested had short prison sentences and were later pardoned. Others were absorbed into IDF. Lehi leader Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister in 1983. And Israel honored Lehi “for military service towards the establishment of the State of Israel” with a commemorative ribbon.

        This is what Zionism really is, the true face of Israel. Fascism and state-sponsored (and commemorated) terrorism. Not Jewish nationalism and self-identification. This is where Witty doesn’t get it. Zionism is completely blasphemous to Judaism. It was founded and led initially by atheists. The guy who restored Hebrew did it for commercial gain and didn’t even speak it. David Ben-Gurion and Golda Meir have said some pretty contradictory things regarding the holocaust. They were only following in the foot steps of Theodor Herzl. Nobody says it better than him:

        “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews.. . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”

      • Citizen
        November 17, 2011, 9:04 pm

        The Nazis worked hand in hand with the Zionists. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. Both sides agreed they were a separate race, each with their own religion, and each entitled to their own country, and both wished to retain their own purity. Assimilation was a big bugaboo to both.

      • Mooser
        November 17, 2011, 9:59 pm

        “You are a sick individual. the disgusting comment section is getting a little nauseating.”

        Any time you want to navigate your browser to a different website, please e-mail me, and I will guide you through the process. The thought of you being trapped at a website you abhor really wrings my withers. Anyway, it’s not that hard, and you could be commenting on settler sites in a day or two.

      • Mooser
        November 17, 2011, 10:01 pm

        Maybe one of the kids in your neightbor hood can help, DGB. I mean, if their parents come and never let you out of their site, what harm could you do?

      • Hostage
        November 18, 2011, 8:41 am

        you could be commenting on settler sites in a day or two.

        As a dog returns to his vomit ( so does a fool repeat his folly). — Mishlei – Proverbs – Chapter 26:11

      • Mooser
        November 18, 2011, 12:45 pm

        “As a dog returns to his vomit ( so does a fool repeat his folly).”

        Yes, I use the same jokes more than once. I know that. I’ll try to do better.

      • Hostage
        November 18, 2011, 1:10 pm

        Yes, I use the same jokes more than once. I know that. I’ll try to do better.

        Not at all, I think you should keep reminding the commentators that there are other sites on the internet if this one disturbs them so deeply. But I was concerned about the wisdom of leading poor DBG back to the original source of all his mental anguish on those settler sites;-) I mean c’mon have a heart.

      • kursato
        November 18, 2011, 7:35 pm

        SPEAKING OF “SICK INDIVIDUALS”, FROM: “The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict”, Published by Jews for Justice in the Middle East:
        (excerpt)Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis
        “As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun (NMO)..[The proposal stated:] ‘The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East… The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany’s side’… The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI’s military power ‘negligible.’ ” — Allan Brownfield in The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs, July/August 1998.
        ENTIRE “ORIGIN” BOOKLET – link to ifamericansknew.org
        P.S. ALSO SEE: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis – link to scribd.com

      • Dan Crowther
        November 17, 2011, 1:49 pm

        good point justice, well founded. that dude from norway breivik also a Big Time Zionist.

        Cheers.

      • Justice Please
        November 17, 2011, 6:01 pm

        Breivik, yes.

        Neonazis and hardcore Zionists have common goals – both think that Jews should not live anywhere else but in Israel, and both project their own bloody past onto the ominous new “Islamic threat”.

      • Justice Please
        November 17, 2011, 6:05 pm

        Btw, my comment was not completely fair, I generalized. Not “all” Zionists find Neonazis and Hitler useful, but certainly some of them, including many of their most deranged leaders who actually cut the deals with Hitlers regime to manage transfers of Jews to Palestine.

        Or the World Zionist Organisation, which opposed a boycott of German goods because this whole Hitler thing was just working out well for their Palestine project.

        It’s a most deadly worldview, completely oblivious to the actual needs of Jews everywhere.

      • Citizen
        November 17, 2011, 9:16 pm

        Zionists protested the boycott of Nazi Germany. The Berlin daily Der Angriff published a series in 1934 written by a Nazi named Mildenstein under the heading “A Nazi Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, he wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine “pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question.” Mildenstein (a Baron) was accompanied on his trip by a Zionist honcho. Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively. link to historytoday.com

      • RoHa
        November 17, 2011, 10:47 pm

        “Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. ”

        Now that would be a collector’s item!

  2. Avi_G.
    November 17, 2011, 12:06 pm

    So the Department of Homeland Security should be arresting her on Terrorism charges any minute now, right? Will she be held in solitary confinement for years without trial? Will she be flown to some secret location where she will be water-boarded?

  3. dahoit
    November 17, 2011, 12:12 pm

    I think Obomba would have to shoot himself to please these morons who fail to see he is a copy of the shrub,just a little darker.The miseducation of America.

  4. Kathleen
    November 17, 2011, 12:16 pm

    ““Y’all as tempting as it may be, don’t shoot Obama. ”

    Oh yeah those cute little blond bloody Christians. Onward Christian soldiers. Killing for God

  5. Scott
    November 17, 2011, 12:23 pm

    This girl needs to be a character in a novel.

    • kapok
      November 17, 2011, 2:07 pm

      haha! true. But who would dare publish it? Anyway, I’ll start: One day the Zohar met a Blonde shiksa, a cheerleader for a Christian University in Iowa. And with his subtle wiles (bribes, scholarships) persuaded her to carry water for an underground cadre of Zionist freedom fighters.

  6. chocopie
    November 17, 2011, 12:27 pm

    Any relation to our proudzionist777 ?

    Lovely photo of Miss Pierce. I’ll bet Israel’s Jewish supporters are thrilled to find she’s in their camp. Or they’re in hers, as the case may be. Some day I do believe the Christians will chase the Jews right out of the zionist movement.

  7. Woody Tanaka
    November 17, 2011, 12:30 pm

    Another Mensa member from Occupied Northeast Mexico. Woo hoo.

  8. seafoid
    November 17, 2011, 12:53 pm

    American exceptionalism

    link to guardian.co.uk

  9. Kathleen
    November 17, 2011, 1:06 pm

    Phil/All
    Israeli paper Israel-Ayom reports today about a new ‘Congressional bill’ that would require the “American administration to support Israel in a move deemed necessary to defend itself against the Iranian nuclear threat.”

    Republicans block Obama’s jobs bill but have time to

    Five Republican congressmen who visited Israel last week disclosed the bill.
    link to uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com
    link to alethonews.wordpress.com

    • seafoid
      November 17, 2011, 2:55 pm

      Kathleen

      That needs to be brought to the attention of as many Americans as possible.
      A war to conquer Iran for Israel is unwinnable. Thousands more American soldiers would die.
      On top of the 6200 already dead since 9/11. And the 40,000 + wounded
      And the dollar as world reserve currency

      • seafoid
        November 17, 2011, 3:14 pm

        Of course there is no money in the Republican Ryan plan for job stimulus but Israel can have as much war funding as it needs.

  10. pabelmont
    November 17, 2011, 1:15 pm

    I wonder if an ironic “don’t shoot him” counts as a suggestion to shoot him sufficient to trigger the old FBI to arrest the perp?

    How about an ironic, “Don’t boycott Israel” published by an anti-settlement group?

  11. Justice Please
    November 17, 2011, 1:47 pm

    Newsflash: The alleged shooter is an alleged fan of Israel!

    “The web posting describes Ortega-Hernandez, who is from Idaho, as 5 feet, 11 inches and 160 pounds, with brown eyes and black hair and with the following marks: “His right hand has a tattoo of three dots, he has a tattoo stating ‘Ortega’ on his upper back, a tattoo on his right chest of rosary beads and hands clasped in prayer, a tattoo of folded hands on left chest, and the words ‘Israel’ tattooed on left side of neck.””

    link to jta.org

    • DBG
      November 17, 2011, 3:23 pm

      JP, Israel is a pretty popular Hispanic name, I doubt it had anything to do with the state of Israel. Good try though. It does sound like he came from the OWS camp in D.C. though.

      • Taxi
        November 17, 2011, 4:59 pm

        “Israel is a pretty popular Hispanic name”.

        No it ain’t. But the name Jesus is.

      • Citizen
        November 17, 2011, 9:27 pm

        I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in South Chicago and worked with Mexicans in the steel yards, hung around with them after work too, and I saw a lot of Jesus but no Israel names.

      • iamuglow
        November 18, 2011, 12:24 pm

        Hate to say it but DBG is right…although it’d have been way more intriguing if had something to do with the colony.

        I work with Mexicans a lot, and I have seen Israel as a name before. Israel & Hey-seus are real popular.

      • Taxi
        November 18, 2011, 3:42 pm

        I once met a Cuban whose surname was israel – and no, his dad didn’t have a tattoo of his name right across his neck. Actually he preferred to be called Al and everyone would joke with him and call him El Al.

        But living in LA, for sure it’s fairly common to meet Mexicans with the name Jesus.

        I’ve also met quiet a few Jordans. I even know an israeli girl called Jordan (her mum is a 60′s kibbutzim leftie).

        Heck I’ve even met a Paris – not the Hilton one – that would be weird.

        But really, begs the question here: why would a deranged assassin name his son israel?

      • anonymouscomments
        November 17, 2011, 5:42 pm

        yeah DBG, i’m sure his boyfriend was named israel….
        what is wrong with your mind? it is obviously very likely he is a huge fan of israel.
        “good try though.”

        and why fight such a comment, when it means nothing if by chance you are right (despite your unwarranted confidence and arrogance, which would still stand).

        and last time i was in new hampshire playing poker this burly guy had the israeli flag tattooed on his neck. i had to check, but he confirmed; complete gentile just rabidly pro-israel. doubt he knows a single jew.

      • Cliff
        November 17, 2011, 7:25 pm

        You doubt it has anything to do with the shooting? Just like the Norway shooter, right?

      • DBG
        November 18, 2011, 11:57 am

        Turns out his son’s name was Israel, not his boyfriend.

        They described him as a devoted father. He had his son’s name — Israel — tattooed on his neck.

        link to latimesblogs.latimes.com

    • American
      November 18, 2011, 12:28 am

      There was another interesting article at the JTA site:

      Ohio family sues school for anti-Semitism, bullying
      November 14, 2011

      NEW YORK (JTA) — The family of a 14-year-old Ohio girl is suing school officials in the state for allowing bullying and anti-Semitic attacks aimed at their daughter.

      The lawsuit alleges that officials at Green High School did nothing to curb years of bullying by classmates, which included being called a “dirty Jew” and told she would “rot in hell” for not believing in Jesus Christ, the Akron Beacon Journal reported.

      The parents brought the case to U.S. District Court last month after transferring their daughter to another public school district. The name of the family is being withheld to protect the identity of the girl.

      In the lawsuit, a bus driver, guidance counselor, two principals and two superintendents are identified as doing nothing to stop the bullying or acting to punish the aggressors.

      In 2008, the girl reportedly was called a “[f---ing] Jew” by several boys and was spat on while riding a school bus, the Akron newspaper reported. The lawsuit maintains that the bus driver neither disciplined the boys nor filed a report with the district about it.

      “She’s been victimized for a number of years because there’s very few Jewish people in that district and there’s a lot of people apparently who have a problem with Jews,” said the family’s Cleveland attorney, Kenneth Myers.

      Other instances of bullying described in the lawsuit involve being assaulted by a boy in the choir room, being stabbed in the leg with a pencil and the creation of a Facebook page devoted to disparaging the girl.

      The lawsuit also accuses Mark Booth, the principal of Green Intermediate School, of telling the girl’s mother that her daughter “enjoyed the attention.” He reportedly told the girl to fight one of the boys who was bullying her.

      Green Superintendent Michael Nutter said of the lawsuit, “Our lawyers at the insurance company are reviewing it and we’ve been advised from them at this point not to comment on it until they’ve reviewed all of it. We have our [bullying] policies, they’re all online, but that’s all I can say right now about it.”

      Green is a northeastern Ohio suburb of nearly 26,000 located midway between Canton and Akron

      • annie
        November 18, 2011, 12:58 am

        if all of this is true, and if it were my daughter i would sue. spitting? in israel perhaps, but this is america. it’s disgusting.

      • American
        November 18, 2011, 10:55 am

        I was struck by the ‘not believing in Jesus’ reference.
        All we hear about is the christians who support Israel and zionism…..but there are christian groups out there that are zealots on the opposite side.
        It will be interesting to see the outcome of this.

  12. Richard Witty
    November 17, 2011, 1:50 pm

    Why did you headline this “proudzionist”?

    • Donald
      November 17, 2011, 3:25 pm

      Richard, look at the Twitter profile, which contains her photo, and then read the words next to it, which includes the phrase “proud Zionist”. I assume that is her self-description.

      • ToivoS
        November 17, 2011, 6:21 pm

        It never fails to amaze. His reading comprehension is even worse than his writing skills.

      • Cliff
        November 17, 2011, 7:36 pm

        Of course it is Donald. Have you ever used Twitter? Richard didn’t read the Goldstone report and yet trolled Mondoweiss, denouncing the findings.

        So you cannot expect him to read a picture. A PICTURE! In color! With an attractive female!

        Seriously, that is how ideologically blinded he is.

    • Richard Witty
      November 17, 2011, 8:15 pm

      Its an allusion to the poster “proudzionist” here, nearly certainly a different person.

      He had other options.

      • anonymouscomments
        November 17, 2011, 9:30 pm

        all zionists are left to do is nitpick irrelevant BS, and even when doing such, make wholly unfounded (and most likely incorrect) assumptions. it is 0.01% chance he even had proudzionist777 (all 55 comments in total!) in mind, but very unlikely, as he had a pertinent picture for the story, and “proud zionist” being the key text (those 2 words a major reason the story is even RELEVANT to MW!).

        by the way dick, have you found him referencing you in titles? maybe you actually just feel left out that after 11000+ comments and your “personal relationship” you have no titles to your name. you should have had 200 stories where (you imagine) the title is referencing you by now….

        ….keep posting buddy. good luck. anything is possible in that witty brain, so maybe you already see your name in most titles.

      • annie
        November 17, 2011, 9:39 pm

        anony, proudzionist777 has been at the site less than a month and made a total of 55 comments. the chance phil even considered witty’s suggestion is zilch to none. richard is just getting etiquettie on phil, anything to criticize him, it makes his day.

      • Richard Witty
        November 17, 2011, 10:19 pm

        Phil is an aware adult.

        For him NOT to pay attention to who was in his living room, would be negligent.

        Its incidental, or maybe not.

        Why doesn’t Phil clarify, and if he did not mean ProudZionist here, apologize for the implied slight?

      • James North
        November 17, 2011, 10:24 pm

        Richard Witty said, ‘Once again, watch me lecture Phil about how to run his completely successful website. My condescending comments give the impression he is a very young man, and I am his rather stern uncle, telling him how to behave.
        ‘In fact, we are both men of the same age, in our mid-50s. Through family connections, I once knew Phil, but I’ve only seen him 4 times in the past 30 years. Nonetheless, that long ago (now disappeared) acquaintanceship gives me the right to supervise his behavior.’

      • Richard Witty
        November 17, 2011, 10:27 pm

        That he publishes, gives me the right to question his comments.

      • annie
        November 17, 2011, 10:40 pm

        if he did not mean ProudZionist here, apologize for the implied slight?

        you crack me up.

        let’s put it this way, pz ain’t no shmuel.

      • anonymouscomments
        November 17, 2011, 11:09 pm

        annie- i basically realize that. i originally had 0.0001%, and i only meant that there was some miniscule chance that phil even noted the connection in the process of posting the article; something like “hmmm, this properly titled article actually is similar to the handle of that new guy…” [then phil promptly moves on to productive things and thoughts, having momentarily realized the unintentional similarity, which means nada].

        but of course, this is ridiculous, there is no reason to think there is any connection, and witty clutters up the comments with derailment, as that seems to be his only goal now. witty knows his hasbara and false analysis gets nowhere by now, given the knowledge of the posters here. so it leaves him with little left to try.

        hamas!
        negotiations!
        anti-semite!
        manufactured BS claims that carry no weight anyways!
        (and repeat; 11,000 more coming)

      • annie
        November 17, 2011, 11:19 pm

        pt taken anon. i just felt like using my new word ‘etiquettie’. or maybe i should’ve used etiqwitty?

      • American
        November 18, 2011, 12:15 am

        You forgot Jewish right to ‘self determination” ..whatever the hell he thinks that is.

      • Donald
        November 18, 2011, 8:10 am

        “Phil is an aware adult.”

        Look up the meaning of irony, Richard.

        In my original reply I started to be snarky, then decided that it was just a careless mistake on your part, not noticing the words “proud zionist” in the tweet. Anyone can make a mistake like that, though I think you are much more prone to it than the average person. I think you objected in the manner you did because you didn’t see those words.

        But rather than admit you made a mistake, you attack Phil for allegedly attacking another commenter. That’s stupid in itself–if a commenter chooses a loaded phrase as his or her handle and comes here to defend Israel then any time the term “proud Zionist” comes up you can claim that “proudzionist” is being insulted. Well, he or she made that choice to embrace that term and can’t object if the term comes up in other contexts. Has it crossed your mind that this entire site is a critique of “proud Zionism”– people who refuse to fully acknowledge or even acknowledge at all the crimes of Israel? You really think Phil had one particular commenter in mind? Aren’t you mindreading (something you criticize when you perceive others doing it)?

      • Mooser
        November 18, 2011, 12:49 pm

        “to who was in his living room,”

        Oh, as far as I know, they keep open house at the Weiss’s. But prying you out from between the sheets, that’s a little trying.

      • Richard Witty
        November 17, 2011, 9:39 pm

        You do know what the term “allusion” means?

        There are deliberate low-blows, careless ones, and passive aggressive semi-conscious ones.

      • Mooser
        November 18, 2011, 1:01 pm

        “There are deliberate low-blows, careless ones, and passive aggressive semi-conscious ones.”

        If you’re smart, Witty you will fetch your fingers a John Henry-like blow with a 9 pound hammer. You should not accept that kind of sabotage and betrayal from them.
        They tell on you every time. “Deliberate low-blows, careless ones, and passive aggressive semi-conscious ones”. Yup, smash those suckers, Witty, they are not on your side!

      • Donald
        November 18, 2011, 5:49 pm

        “There are deliberate low-blows, careless ones, and passive aggressive semi-conscious ones.”

        Yes, Richard, and you started with a passive aggressive and careless attack on Phil and now you’ve progressed to deliberate.

        You screwed up. Admit it for your own good. At least to yourself, anyway.

      • Mooser
        November 17, 2011, 10:05 pm

        “He had other options.”

        I sure wish you had another option besides a blind devotion to your obsession.

      • annie
        November 17, 2011, 10:43 pm

        blind devotion to your obsession.

        mooser cuts to the chase

      • john h
        November 17, 2011, 10:09 pm

        So sensitive to a fellow Zionist, so ready to find an allusion that is an illusion, so oblivious to anyone or anything else outside a knee-jerk repetitive frame of reference.

        There are other options, there’s a whole world out there, your treadmill ran out of steam a long time ago.

      • eGuard
        November 18, 2011, 3:57 am

        Witty, Proud Zionistin the title and commenter’s nick proudzionist777 differ on six (six!) spelling points. And that is before you could find the words in the pictured tweets.

        Then, why did not proudzionist777 respond themselves here? In a Washington jail without internet?

      • eljay
        November 18, 2011, 8:52 am

        Hmmm…Phil used Lauren Pierce’s self-descriptor “Proud Zionist” in the headline for this thread. (Makes sense: He’s discussing her tweet, and she described herself as a “proud Zionist”.) RW distorted the descriptor to resemble the username of a member on this site, and then – without any supporting evidence – he accused Phil of slighting the member and demanded that Phil issue an apology.

        WTF?!

        Not only is RW’s latest little petulant rant utterly pathetic, but it is defamatory! RW should immediately retract his unfounded accusation against Phil and issue an apology.

  13. eee
    November 17, 2011, 4:22 pm

    Should we start to mention the millions of Palestinian supporters who would like to kill Americans in general, not just your President? You know that Bin Laden was a huge supporter of Palestinians, what does it say about them according to your logic?

    • Charon
      November 17, 2011, 7:23 pm

      eee, I’m not the biggest fan of Wikileaks, but back in 2008 they leaked ten years of Bin Laden quotes translated by the FBI:

      link to wikileaks.ch

      This is every official communication they had on the guy and NOT A SINGLE CONFESSION for 9/11. The CIA and FBI have never verified any of the tapes and statements run by the MSM. The FBI’s own site on Bin Laden does not mention 9/11:

      link to fbi.gov

      When people point out facial inconsistencies and what looks like laytex and makeup on some of the videos run by the MSM, they are labeled conspiracy theorists. Why? The CIA was never able to verify them. The ‘experts’ are likely the same ‘experts’ who linked the Oslo attacks to Mohammed cartoons before Breivik was named. This is also why people made a big deal when Obama said Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 back in May because it made him a liar. Even Bush stopped caring about Bin Laden in early 2002.

      9/16/01 – “Following the latest explosions in the United States, some Americans are pointing the finger at me, but I deny that because I have not done it. The United States has always accused me of these incidents which have been caused by its enemies. Reiterating once again, I say that I have not done it, and the perpetrators have carried this out because of their own interest”

      9/28/01 – “I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.”

      In 2004, the BBC ran a series called the Power of Nightmares. Here is an except from it called “al Qaeda Does Not Exist”

      It shows that Bin Laden’s ‘entourage’ in the cane-walking and ak-47 video are hired extras… for the video. To make it look like his group was bigger. And “al Qaeda” is a name applied to his group (and other unorganized and unrelated groups) by the West. You can tell it’s a Western creation because even though it means ‘the base’ literally, it is not a word in common usage in Arabic and actually means ‘leaders’ and sounds identical to “al Quaida” which is a toilet.

      This isn’t circumstantial evidence or a conspiracy theory. The MSM and the neocons were driving this whole Bin Laden thing even before 9/11. Why would the Bin Laden boogeyman shoved down our throats for the past decade deny it at first? Because he wouldn’t. That only means there can be two Bin Ladens. There is Usama Bin Laden and “Osama Bin Laden”. Fox News confused the two. Usama is the guy in the original videos and photos who denied doing 9/11, probably died not long afters. Then there is “Osama Bin Laden” which maybe is a group of people who were taken out back in May (hence no pictures). Who knows? Either way, your analogy is bad.

    • Cliff
      November 17, 2011, 7:34 pm

      Cite the article where millions of Palestinians were found to support killing Americans in general, imbecile.

      And let’s take a trip down memory lane you racist goon:

      Hey Phil and Annie and the rest of you guys,

      Can you please ask your Palestinian friends that the next time they murder only the parents? Could you please explain to them that killing three kids including a 3 year old and an infant does not help their cause?

      Who murders random kids sleeping in their beds just because they are Jews? Only very sumud and sensitive people. Please prepare your excuse why Hamas will not condemn this crime and then try explaining how Israelis should really look forward towards living in a one state. I am looking forward to Avi’s explanation why the perpetrators are really heroes. Mooser, do you have any jokes about this you would like to share with us?

      You have insulted the whole of Palestinian society countless times. You have slandered them and lumped them in with the Itamar murderers as well.

      A majority of Israelis (you included) supported Cast Lead after the news of the heavy civilian death toll was made public. This coming after years of rocket attacks that killed 8 people. How many Palestinians died in Gaza in the same period? HUNDREDS. In the months leading up to the end of the cease-fire, hundreds died in Gaza.

      Israeli hysteria always makes you think millions of Jews are being slaughtered by a new Nazi army or something. BUT, then you realize it’s a ratio of 10 to 1, or 5 to 1, or 100 to 1 in the case of the Gaza massacre. And it’s the Palestinians who are suffering by several magnitudes.

      And at the same time, racist cultists like eee (who try to define who is Jewish or not, by whether they are Zionist/know Hebrew/etc., but really just whether they’re Zionist or not) tell us we pay inordinate amount of time on this conflict when X, Y and Z is bloodier.

      Ok. Apply that sick standard to the conflict, without red herrings and unrelated analogies, without a question it’s the Palestinians who are suffering much more and for much longer and in the foreseeable future will continue to suffer while Israelis are the culprits and while Israelis enjoy normalcy.

      This ‘Proud Zionist’, Pierce, would fit right in with Baruch Goldstein.

    • Mooser
      November 17, 2011, 10:07 pm

      ” You know that Bin Laden was a huge supporter of Palestinians, what does it say about them according to your logic?

      You’ve read about that, too? Yeah, it’s called the “Bin Laden Effect”. See, it works like this: it doesn’t matter whether you like or hate Bin Laden, if he likes you, you automatically want to kill Americans. It’s amazing how that works!

      • eee
        November 18, 2011, 1:03 am

        Obviously you do not see the irony in your post. This woman likes Israel and Zionism. So Phil posts this as a knock on Zionism and then you make the exact argument I make.

      • john h
        November 18, 2011, 2:06 am

        Talking about proud Zionists, here’s another one doin’ his stuff, the rapper Antithesis MC. Get a load of this:

        PROUD TO BE A ZIONIST

        Yo, it’s time to set the record straight
        Fed up with all the man proclaimin all this hate
        No room for debate, well hold up wait
        Cos Antithesis comin to step up and state
        Yo the movement of my people been getting this stick
        Equated with racism and other bullish
        And if you can’t see it – that’s just foolish
        So shut up and listen, to my hip hop schooling
        We talking freedom, emancipation
        A home, a land for a persecuted nation
        Liberation, democratisation
        A dream fulfilled, a Jewish safe haven
        2000 years this desire had lied
        Dormant but restive – it never died
        In the 1800s, it was brought to life with this
        Movement of my people, proud to be Zionists

        I’m a Zionist – and yes I’m proud
        I’m a Zionist – so shout it loud
        I’m a Zionist – that’s my vocation
        I’m a Zionist – self-determination for the Jewish nation
        I’m a Zionist – and I’ll never cease
        I’m a Zionist – who just wants peace
        I’m a Zionist – and I say it with poise
        I’m a Zionist – if you are too, then make some noise!

        I’m a Zionist, so give me my word back
        There’s too many man, trying to turn that
        Into something negative, something bad
        I’m a Zionist who ain’t ashamed, I’m glad
        That I support universal suffrage, free press
        Only place in the Middle East to pass that test
        Nothing less, cos we strivin for perfection
        It’s a work in progress, like all other Western
        Nations, but to be Zionist don’t equal extreme
        Don’t make you obscene, unkind or unclean
        What it means, is that you believe that the Jewish state
        Has a right to exist, secure and safe
        People livin without fear, living in peace
        That’s the essence of a Zionist belief
        No more beef, I’m done defining it
        Join with me and shout that we proud to be Zionists

      • eGuard
        November 18, 2011, 4:11 am

        eee: This woman likes Israel

        No. She did not write that.

      • kapok
        November 18, 2011, 4:39 pm

        The American Song Book it ain’t.

      • kapok
        November 18, 2011, 4:43 pm

        Someone needs to tell the author the meaning of “restive”.

      • kapok
        November 18, 2011, 5:02 pm

        my apologies to all language mavens: on reflection “restive” may indeed be apt. But the rest of thing is dreck.

  14. kursato
    November 18, 2011, 7:38 pm

    one should send a message to the Texas branch of AFP… lets see what they think about this tweet.. CNN fired people for this…

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