Santorum says West Bank is Israel’s Texas, and all who live there are ‘Israelis’

Gosh I wish I understood who Santorum is pandering to, Christians? But in the pugnacious guessing game he plays above with a smart questioner, the former Senator says that “all the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis.” So is that an inadvertent recognition that it’s one political entity now, and Palestinians must have Israel voting rights? Eli Clifton reports on Iowa exchange above, at ThinkProgress:

In a recorded conversation during a Friday campaign stop in Iowa, former Republican senator Rick Santorum offered a surprisingly hawkish set of foreign policy views (even for Santorum) on both Iran and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. After telling a questioner that the U.S. should target Iranian nuclear scientists for assassination, the GOP presidential hopeful went on to say that “all the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis, they’re not Palestinians” and offered his endorsement of Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank. Santorum even went so far as to compare Israeli annexation of the West Bank to the acquisition of Texas during the Mexican-American war:

QUESTIONER: Do you think Israel should dismantle its settlements?

SANTORUM: No. The West Bank, is this part of Israel?

QUESTIONER: [inaudible] According to 48? [inaudible] [...]

SANTORUM: Is Mexico part of the United States?

QUESTIONER: No.

SANTORUM: How did we get New Mexico and Texas?

QUESTIONER: Through war.

SANTORUM: How did they get the West Bank? [inaudible] Through a war. Should we give Texas back to Mexico?

QUESTIONER: Well I don’t think you should recognize recent annexations.

SANTORUM: Oh, so it depends whether it’s recent or not? So we should have given New Mexico and Texas back 150 years go? [...] The bottom line is that that is legitimately Israeli country. And they have a right to do within their country just like we have a right to do within our country. If they want to negotiate with Israelis– and all the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis, they’re not Palestinians. There is no Palestinian, this is Israeli land.

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  1. Woody Tanaka says:

    “The bottom line is that that is legitimately Israeli country. ”

    Great. Then hopefully this tool will advocate that everyone from the Med to the Jordan gets the vote, just like all those in Mexico who lived there before the Mexican-American war got the vote in the US. Something tells me that the Judeo-supremacists out there won’t be too happy with ol’ Rick.

  2. Dan Crowther says:

    Well, there you have it.

    What a disgusting human being this guy is. But, he is a “useful idiot”; if everyone is “Israeli,” which puts them in the category of “people” according to Santorum, they should have all the rights of other real people, like Israeli’s and Americans.

    • eljay says:

      The Questioner should have told Santorum that discussion of Texas is “academic speculation” and that “the PRESENT is what matters”.

      >> … if everyone is “Israeli,” which puts them in the category of “people” according to Santorum, they should have all the rights of other real people, like Israeli’s and Americans.

      In a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel, all Israelis should have the same rights. In a religion-supremacist “Jewish state” of Israel, non-Jews will remain second-class “Arabs”.

  3. He’s only saying what they all think and believe. The difference is that most of these psycophants know that they have to maintain the fiction that somehow there are two separate countries on top of each other. It is only a convenient lie to allow them to deny Palestinians any civil or democratic rights, while they keep inexorably reducing the means for any Palestinian to live a minimal existence. The West Bank was annexed long ago, the liars have built a wall of obfuscation and denial in order to maintain a regime worse than apartheid. It is the hypocrisy and lies which reveal the nature of the aggressive self-aggrandisment of zionism, as its meek little army of megaphone mouthpieces trot out the party line.

    • john h says:

      There is no Palestinian, this is Israeli land.

      This out-does Netanyahu at the UN, and echoes what Golda Meir said. And yes, justicewillprevail,

      He’s only saying what they all think and believe. It is the hypocrisy and lies which reveal the nature of the aggressive self-aggrandisment of zionism

  4. seafoid says:

    “SANTORUM: How did they get the West Bank? [inaudible] Through a war. Should we give Texas back to Mexico?”

    G-d gave Israel the West Bank. This SANTORUM is a blasphemer.
    G-d was behind the San Remo agreement as well.

    • You mean ,god of underworld, known by many other names.

    • Chaos4700 says:

      Should we give Texas back to Mexico?

      Can we put that to a national referendum?

      • Charon says:

        I’m in favor. Sorry Texas

        With all the problems the US has, the indigenous people of Texas would stay here given the choice. Just as Arab Israelis want there to be peace, but most are not crazy about living in a Palestinian state. At least not right now given the state of things. There are a lot of Texas who are not indigenous and want to declare independence. Just as there are a lot of settlers who want to declare an independent “Samaria” state in the WB. In other words, there are a lot of crazy people.

      • Theo says:

        Yes, if we can get red of the Bush family and all other idiots coming from that state.
        The good ones may move to Iowa, vastly underpopulated.

    • john h says:

      This SANTORUM is a blasphemer.

      Whatever, he is Catholic and

      He is known for his “confrontational, partisan, ‘in your face’ style of politics and government.”[16]

      Santorum was defeated 59% to 41% in the 2006 U.S. Senate election by Democratic candidate Bob Casey, Jr. This was the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent Senator since 1980.[12]

      He is a glutton for punishment, saying

      “I hate to be calculating, but I see that 2012 is not just throwing somebody out to be eaten, but it’s a real opportunity for success.”

      Not on your Nelly, you should be eaten alive.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  5. “And they have a right to do within their country, just like we have a right to do within our country”
    Why then Libya was attacked by combined US/Nato forces recently??
    Why US treatens Iran with a war. Iran has also a right to do within its country whatever it wants?
    Is Israel above all law??

    • dahoit says:

      I just read where the new bad Rice said to the ICC not to interfere with the new criminal Libyan bloodfeast trial of Col.Ks last son.
      Man are these people empty(pant) suits or what?

  6. seafoid says:

    Santorum yada yada.

    The Republicans have been unable to agree a deficit reduction plan with the Dems (who need a war to appear tough) so automatic cuts to spending will come into force. “Defense” spending will be cut by $500bn, people.

    link to nytimes.com

    Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta has said the cuts would result in “the smallest ground force since 1940, the smallest number of ships since 1915 and the smallest Air Force in its history.” He also raised the specter of deep cuts to America’s nuclear arsenal.
    Independent analysts of the military budget said that the situation was not as dire as Mr. Panetta described, but that the cuts, which by law cannot be “backloaded” to leave the biggest reductions for later years, would put a large strain on the Pentagon.

    Now, who should bear the brunt of the last $3bn? Or the first $3bn. Fort X in the homeland or Israel ? American jobs or Zionist jobs?

    • WHO needs a large military??
      The final goal is to get rid of most of the national ,military forces all over Europe and the US. Instead ,”they” want to create and support global forces (army,security, police) that will defense future, global government.
      Strong Europe and strong US is NO LONGER needed .
      They are in the way with their demands of justice, freedom, human rights etc. Globalists do not need them. They treat them like bunch of spoiled, loud brats, who need to be shushed.
      US army will be used to maximum, and then restructured into a private army of mercenaries willing to die (and kill) for globalists.

      • piotr says:

        US happens to have very long and hard to defend borders. Look at the map! A huge country, extending well beyond Arctic Circle looms from the North, and an extremely confusing hodgepodge of countries threatens from the South. (Do you know where St. Lucia is? I don’t, but somewhere there.)

        With a lesser military budget USA could be reduced to the position like Paraguay: it suffered a holocaust because of invasion from neighboring Argentina and Brasil (and Uruguay, but the latter did not do much, even so it was a Triple Alliance). And what stand now between Paraguay’s existence and oblivion? Nothing except for not picking fights with neighbors. It works, but it is kind of undignified.

        • eljay says:

          Countries must be able to defend themselves. Unfortunately, too many warmongers think defence includes invasion, occupation, colonization, “pre-emptive self-defence”, propping up foreign states or dictatorships, et cetera.

        • You are right: “countires must be able to defend themselves”.
          Some people do not like the idea of “countries”.
          That’s my whole point.
          They do not want “countries”.
          “Countries” are in the way of their agenda.

        • Maybe that’s the point, to reduce the US to the position of Paragway…or Sudan…or Somalia???????????????
          Maybe some people want that??

        • Let’s say, you have two neighbours living next to you.
          Ones are very weak, poor, sick and totaly dependent on anybody around to help them. They ARE a piece of pie to conquer.
          The other ones are strong, powerful, independent, healthy etc.
          If you want to gain a power over the neighbors that are very strong and independent ,what would you do??
          You would try to reduce their power to a minimum, to make them weak, dependant, confused, poor. Then it would be very easy to overpower them.
          Basically, that’s what happens right now in Europe.
          Once strong, independent Europe , thanks to the treacherous actions of the EU, became weak, , poor, indebted, confused, frustrated,aggressive etc.
          An easy pray for all thugs, thieves and hoodlums, who want to take advantage of it.
          The same things happens slowly in America.

        • Lexikon says:

          With due respect, but there are major incoherences in your post. Paraguai was not invaded by Brazil and Argentina, unless you also consider that Germany was invaded by the Allies. Factually, it is true, but the whole war was caused AND iniciated by the very same country that happened to be “invaded”, since it ultimately lost the war.

          And there is nothing “undignified” in the necessity for keeping one at peace with its neighbours. I mean, that IS the intent of international law, right?

  7. spuxx says:

    So if the US forces in Afghanistan went to war with Russia, and Russia won territory, would that make Afghanistan Russian?

  8. pjdude says:

    first of the US eventually gave mexico money in return for the land we stole. secondly do you really want to paint the taking of the west bank to a purely agressive war designed to steal land from another country. not to mention the reason the settlers agitated for that in texas was mexico forbade slavery.

  9. Keith says:

    This is a shocking interview. A know-nothing ex-senator interviewed by an inept interviewer. For starters, the 1967 war was started by Israel with the foreknowledge of the US. More significantly, Rick Santorum is the only one I have ever heard make the ludicrous claim that the West Bank is part of Israel. Even Israel acknowledges that the West Bank is occupied territory. Furthermore, this lawyer should surely be aware of international law regarding the acquisition of territory by military force. The US acquisition of Texas from Mexico is a moot point. I’m shocked that Rick Santorum would make such ludicrous statements in public where they were recorded.

    • Chaos4700 says:

      Well, it’s not like there are going to be any adverse consequences for Santorum for saying this. If anything, he’s just earned himself even more big-ticket campaign donations.

      • He just pleases those ,who give him the most.
        Never mind the truth.
        Truth can always be bent and twisted and turned around.
        And then, he thinks that God will forgive him his blatant lies.
        God has NOTHING to do ,Mr. Santorum ,with lies, manipulations , hypocrisy, abuse, oppressions, agressions,murdering, humiliation etc.
        You support that, so you have NOTHING to do with God,
        no matter how often you pray daily, or stop by at the local church.
        NOTHING.

        • john h says:

          Absolutely.

          Yes, yet that’s not the end of the story, only its beginning.

          That’s because you have brought God into this, and he is always interested in an individual person. With him nothing is impossible. What is possible, however slight, is personal change.

          As it stands, God has nothing to do with what you have described, and with those who support that.

          If Santorum ever has his eureka moment that results in a 180 degree turnaround from upside down to right side up, that would completely alter the equation.

          Then what is known as grace would kick in and he could be forgiven and start again as a different person on his life’s journey.

          In the meantime he is a deluded hasbara mouthpiece, and a tool of Zionism and of our common enemy.

          He may well remain that, and it is a forlorn hope. But with God, the god he doesn’t completely discount, such real change is possible sooner or later. (:-/)

    • West Bank.
      “The United Nations Security Council,the United Nations General Assembly,the United States,the EU, the International Court of Justice, and the International Committee of the Red Cross refer to it AS PALESTINIAN TERRITORY occupied by Israel.
      General Assembly resolution 58/292 (17 May 2004) affirmed that the Palestinian people have the right to sovereignty over the area.

      According to supporters of Israel’s rights, since the area has never in modern times been an independent state, there is no legitimate claimant to the area other than the present occupier, which is Israel.
      This argument however is not accepted by the international community and international lawmaking bodies, virtually all of whom regard Israel’s activities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip AS AN OCCUPATION that denies the fundamental principle of self-determination found in the Article One of the United Nations Charter, and in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.
      Further, UN Security Council Resolution 242 notes the “inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” regardless of whether the war in which the territory was acquired was offensive or defensive.
      Prominent Israeli human rights organizations such as B’tselem also refer to the Israeli control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip AS AN OCCUPATION.
      John Quigley has noted that “…a state that uses force in self-defense may not retain territory it takes while repelling an attack. If Israel had acted in self-defense, that would not justify its retention of the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
      Under the UN Charter there can lawfully be no territorial gains from war, even by a state acting in self-defense. The response of other states to Israel’s occupation shows a virtually unanimous opinion that even if Israel’s action were defensive, its retention of the West Bank and Gaza Strip was not.”

      International law (Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention) prohibits “transfers of the population of an occupying power to occupied territories”, incurring a responsibility on the part of Israel’s government to not settle Israeli citizens in the West Bank.

      Some countries, such as Brazil and Argentina, recognize the State of Palestine and consider the West Bank to be territory of that state.”
      link to en.wikipedia.org

    • Potsherd2 says:

      “Dumb as a bag full of hammers.”

  10. Eva Smagacz says:

    So all the people of that land should have the right to vote for their government: one person one vote, Mr Santorum? Mr Santorum…? Hello?

  11. annie says:

    what an idiot, he obviously knows nothing if he thinks all the palestinians are israeli. and someone should tell him israel started the 67 war.

  12. mudder says:

    Michele Bachmann’s applause line at the ZOA fundraiser also seems to preclude any two state solution: “Israel will never be up for grabs – not one inch, not one acre, not one square foot will ever be on the chopping block.”

  13. john h says:

    I think I heard him today call Africa “that country”.

    Silverstein’s latest on Santorum

    link to richardsilverstein.com

  14. dahoit says:

    C,mon,he’s just adapting the Israeli argument that we did it too.But he fails to note the absence of international treaties in that time of might made right,the 19th century.
    The Israelis signed all the UN treaties at its inception to gain international legitimacy.They’ve abrogated many.
    I know there are many people of Mexican descent in Texas,N Mexico,Arizona and California(actually all over America).Do you think they would vote for Mexican or American sovereignty?Methinks their emigration to here would give you a clue.
    Unless of course,as Santorum,Gingrich or Perry might spiel,they are here to take those places back.

  15. dahoit says:

    Actually many Mexican Americans are descendants of pre existing populations here before Anglo America took over,to be accurate.I still think they prefer American sovereignty.(At least now)

  16. eGuard says:

    Just googled “Santorum” and “bottom line”.

    Don’t do that at home.