GOP presidential candidates offer red meat on Israel (UPDATED)

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Mitt Romney, the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, spoke earlier today at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s presidential forum (Photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images via The Guardian)

Update: C-SPAN has posted the morning and afternoon videos of the Republican Jewish Coalition’s forum yesterday. And here’s the New York Times report, which takes note of the Republican candidates invoking the Holocaust and World War II. For more on the forum, see below.

Six Republican candidates for president, minus Ron Paul, addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition’s (RJC) forum today, and gave the audience what they wanted: a sustained attack on the Obama administration’s Middle East policy. There was a lot of red meat served, and the audience ate it up.

Some of the key themes repeated throughout the candidates’ remarks: the belief in American primacy, as opposed to Obama’s “apologetic” foreign policy; the unbreakable bond between the U.S. and Israel; a sense of outrage at the Obama administration because of Leon Panetta’s, Hillary Clinton’s and Howard Gutman’s recent remarks; and pledges to take aggressive action against Iran.

Politico‘s Ben Smith noted that the RJC seemed to be “[Mitt] Romney’s crowd,” although Newt Gingrich also received a warm welcome.

Now for the news:

Gingrich, who has recently surged in polls, told the audience that he would move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem–a line frequently repeated by presidential candidates across the spectrum but never followed up on. (Gingrich, at an RJC event earlier this year, lauded extremist Israelis who marched in occupied Jerusalem chanting “butcher the Arabs.”)

More on Gingrich’s speech from The Hill:

Newt Gingrich worked to one-up Mitt Romney and the other GOP hopefuls in his approach to relations with Israel, pledging to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, vowing to fund every dissident group in Iran and floating former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as his pick to run the State Department.

Gingrich’s comments Wednesday at the Republican Jewish Coalition forum marked an escalation in the contest for which Republican presidential candidate can take the most staunch and unquestioning position in support of Israel.

Gingrich also lashed out at President Obama, decrying his approach to U.S.-Israel relations as outrageous and accusing the president of self-deception and appeasement.

“It’s always Israel’s fault, no matter how bad the other side is. It has to stop,” Gingrich said to frenetic applause.

Gingrich also pledged to appoint John Bolton, the former Bush administration official known for his belligerent rhetoric on Iran, as his Secretary of State.

Michele Bachmann, the right-wing Republican congresswoman from Minnesota who has little chance at gaining the nomination, threw in a racist line about the Palestinian right of return, saying that it would “swamp” Israel with “millions of Arabs” who have never lived in Israel and that it would turn Israel into an “Arab state.”

Mitt Romney, as noted earlier, accused Obama of “appeasement” and said that he would “travel to Israel on my first foreign trip.”

What’s important to note about Romney, the front-runner, is that his attempt to draw a contrast between his planned policies on Israel and Obama’s is that it falls flat when you examine the facts. 

Here’s Romney:

As President, my policies will be very different. I will travel to Israel on my first foreign trip. I will reaffirm as a vital national interest Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. I want the world to know that the bonds between Israel and the United States are unshakable. I want every country in the region that harbors aggressive designs against Israel to understand that their ambition is futile and that pursuing it will cost them dearly.

It’s true that Obama has not traveled to Israel. But the other points don’t work as much, which is indicative of just how entrenched support for Israel is in Washington. Obama has “affirmed” that Israel is a “Jewish state.” And Obama has said that “the bond between Israel and the United States is unbreakable.” The Obama administration has also taken a hawkish route on Iran, and even Elliott Abrams, a staunch neoconservative, admits that the U.S. and Israel’s “military relationship has gotten steadily stronger” under the Obama administration.

The takeaway from all of this: Israel will be a huge issue in this presidential campaign, and Republican distortions of Obama’s record will continue. But the political sparring masks the fact that the Obama administration has been nothing but extremely supportive of Israel’s right-wing government. The political debate will continue to be about who can one-up their opponent on devotion to Israel. They need those campaign dollars.

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  1. Justice Please
    December 7, 2011, 5:10 pm

    “Six Republican candidates for president, minus Ron Paul, addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition’s (RJC) forum today,… ” … and competed about who would sacrifice more future Furkan Dogans and Emily Hechonowizces on the altar of the self-proclaimed “Jewish state”.

    • Chaos4700
      December 7, 2011, 10:13 pm

      Call me when the Republican candidates for president, minus Ron Paul, address anything to the 99% of the United States.

  2. Dan Crowther
    December 7, 2011, 5:11 pm

    I totally disagree with kane and weiss on the question of Israel becoming a “huge issue in the presidential camapaign” – Israel will be the elephant in the room, but no way in hell would the Lobby let a presidential camapaign be a referendum on american support for Israel. Israel will be discussed, but in the abstract…

    • Philip Weiss
      December 7, 2011, 5:14 pm

      ok we have a bet

      • Dan Crowther
        December 7, 2011, 9:01 pm

        Indeed we do. By the way, Phil – I thoroughly enjoyed your essay earlier today – forgot to mention that on my post. you’ve got real potential as a writer… :)

        Mudder – yes, the lobby will allow a “who loves Israel more” referendum, especially in a NY congressional race, but a national election? That’s tough sleddin’

      • Chu
        December 8, 2011, 9:34 am

        I agree with Dan. Israel may get more airtime, while these candidates try to outgun each other on their love of the Jewish homeland, but in general it will not factor in to the national issues and serious foreign policy debate. Discussing Israel in a democrat/republican debate might only talk about how much more supplies they should receive from the motherland USA; with all its extra military extras and loan guarantees.
        It will never address Israel’s simmering theft of East Jerusalem’s home’s from Palestinian families. Even if Paul was the candidate, I don’t think we would see a real discussion. Sadly, it’s all too soon for the political machine to honestly address these questions.

      • ritzl
        December 8, 2011, 1:24 pm

        But that kind of exposure serves the purpose as well. The more the rest of us see the unseemly kowtow-ing of our politicians to a foreign country, the more head scratching will ensue. Whether this behavior is questioned openly in political/media forums (or not) or reflected upon quietly in living rooms, either way it becomes an influence on politics. Or at the very least a pretty big upwelling of festering impatience waiting for an outlet. Someone here mentioned local post office closings as a spark, tied to aid to Israel, tied to this obeisant behavior. People are learning the math on this.

      • Duscany
        December 7, 2011, 9:20 pm

        I can’t imagine Israel becoming an issue unless lightning strikes and Ron Paul somehow becomes the Republican nominee. Of course all bets are off if Israel attacks Iran. In that case, Iran will attack US forces in the area on the grounds that Israel would never attack unless we gave the go-ahead. Once our forces are hit, the US will then enthusiastically join the war on behalf of Israel (with Iran and the rest of the world on the other side against us).

    • mudder
      December 7, 2011, 7:00 pm

      The lobby seems to have no problem with letting Israel be a huge issue in this recent congressional campaign, despite a mere shade of difference between candidates in their utter fealty to Israel.

      • Kathleen
        December 8, 2011, 11:14 am

        Ron Paul stands alone on this

    • Alex Kane
      December 8, 2011, 10:18 am

      I don’t think it will be an issue in terms of having a serious political debate. But it’s clear the GOP strategy will be to push the line that Obama “pushes” Israel too much. But that makes it into a political issue–and people will begin to wonder, perhaps?

      • Dan Crowther
        December 8, 2011, 10:48 am

        alex,

        i agree with you on the GOP strategy…..for now. but once the primary season begins in earnest, and they are looking for votes, rather than just campaign contributions, Israel will become “unmentionable” in direct fashion for two reasons, (1) the candidates are a bunch of waspy, “christians” who know their core constituencies are not jewish and (2)
        the events of the last year give the R’s and the neocons a large range of topics to bash Obama over the head with, without having to discuss Israel directly – other than to say “I heart Israel” or some such….

    • Kathleen
      December 8, 2011, 11:16 am

      A much bigger wedge issue than in the past. Exposing how so many of our Dem Reps have and are “liberals” and focused on social justice on so many domestic issues but when it comes to Israel have and continue to be right wing radicals.

    • Jeffrey Blankfort
      December 8, 2011, 12:11 pm

      How much it will be an issue in the general election remains to be seen and on what develops re Israel and/or the US and Iran before November, 2012, but right now the Repubs are whoring not for Jewish voters but for Jewish money. Jews will vote overwhelmingly for Obama, secure in the belief that no American president will be allowed to “throw Israel under the bus.” The voters they are appealing to are the lobotomized Christian evangelicals of which there are an estimated 30 million and whose votes they need in the primaries.

  3. American
    December 7, 2011, 5:42 pm

    “I will reaffirm as a vital national interest Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. ”

    Yeah and ask him to explain why Israel is a vital national interest.

    And every time he ticks off a slogan like ‘ally, “democracy”,’ values’…..demand he explain in full what ally, democracy and Isr values each actually DO for the US. He can’t, none of them can. None of them including Obama could stand up to a through questioning by any knowledgeable person…on almost anything and definitely not on Israel.
    This is why citizens are never allowed to question candidates without a filter to censor out many of their questions. It’s all one way, questions are selected, they give us the spin and that’s that.

    • Duscany
      December 7, 2011, 9:27 pm

      I can’t believe how servile, fawning and obsequious the candidates become when the subject of Israel arises. Do they really think that jobless blue collar Americans in Ohio and western Pennsylvania will be impressed by this? Or do the candidates (along with Obama too) figure the working class is so busy going to church and oiling its guns to notice how cravenly the candidates abase themselves when it comes to Israel?

      • seafoid
        December 8, 2011, 8:12 am

        Israelis all have socialised healthcare. Why don’t Americans?
        Israelis have free university education. Why don’t Americans?

      • ahmed
        December 8, 2011, 12:42 pm

        Rather, wont the Tea Party want to know why U.S. dollars are supporting socialism… are these the ideals and priinciples the U.S. and Israel share?

  4. Bill in Maryland
    December 7, 2011, 7:41 pm

    I think Obama should go to Israel soon, shake off his handlers, mingle with Israelis west of the Green Line, and visit settlers and Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. Let Americans see the modern face of Israel, and meet some of the fine young Israelis that Max Blumenthal interviewed in Tel Aviv in 2009.

    • Philip Weiss
      December 7, 2011, 8:37 pm

      this is very funny bill, savage funny. wow i love this comment section some days

    • lobewyper
      December 7, 2011, 8:48 pm

      Bill,

      It’s obviously time for you to quit your current job and become Chief Presidential Advisor!

    • Kathleen
      December 8, 2011, 11:12 am

      On the other hand heard Obama reference early on that there was divide developing between younger Jewish Americans and their parents and grand parents generation. You can bet he is aware of the widening gap growing and many older Jewish Americans finally moving out of denial about the facts on the ground

  5. DICKERSON3870
    December 7, 2011, 8:56 pm

    RE: “It’s true that Obama has not traveled to Israel.” ~ Kane

    MY COMMENT: George W. Bush did not visit Israel during his first term as president. It was not until January of 2008, three-fourths of the way through his second term, that he visited Israel as president (for just two days).

    • Duscany
      December 7, 2011, 10:58 pm

      I don’t know why a president or candidate should visit Israel anyway. The countries important to the United States are Germany, Japan, China, India, Brazil, Russia, Britain, and Mexico. Israel’s only important because AIPAC makes it so (and, sigh, because Israel can involve us in a war with Iran any time it chooses).

  6. RoHa
    December 7, 2011, 11:26 pm

    “The countries important to the United States are Germany, Japan, China, India, Brazil, Russia, Britain, and Mexico. ”

    Obama pretends Australia is important as well. But at least you left out Canada.

    • eljay
      December 8, 2011, 7:42 am

      >> RoHa: Obama pretends Australia is important as well. But at least you left out Canada.

      Dude, stop slagging Canada! We’re NICE up here, and that’s important! :-D

      • Dan Crowther
        December 8, 2011, 8:32 am

      • DICKERSON3870
        December 8, 2011, 9:22 am

        RE: “Dude, stop slagging Canada! We’re NICE up here…” ~ eljay

        REPLY: Dude, that is soooooo pre-(Stephen)Harper!

        FACEBOOK:
        Can this Onion Ring get more fans than Stephen Harper? – link to facebook.com

        Canadians Rallying to Unseat Stephen Harper – link to facebook.com

        I dont like what Stephen Harper is doing to Canada – link to facebook.com

        Stephen Harper is secretly a robot – link to facebook.com

        stephen harper sucks – link to facebook.com

        F_ck Stephen Harper – link to facebook.com

        We Support Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Stand For Israel – link to facebook.com

        PETITION – Canadian citizens: Psychological Evaluation of Stephen Harper

        “We the undersigned hereby petition this honourable Federal court to order STEPHEN HARPER Prime Minister of Canada to undergo an immediate 30 day psychological evaluation, to determine if his apparent narcissistic personality disorder has caused him to lose grasp of reality. We make this petition based upon his recent actions concerning the Omnibus Crime Bill, his general style of governing and due to an honest fear that he is a clear danger to Canada, her citizens and the rule of law.”

        LINK – link to change.org

      • stevieb
        December 8, 2011, 11:48 am

        Good ol’ Stephen Harper – vetted, funded and generally loved by Canada’s Israel Lobby. B’nai Brith Canada spokesman was gushing on the CBC on how they had put so much time an money and effort into getting Harper into Ottawa with a majority – and how now they expected him to toe the line for Israel in Canada.

        So far they can be VERY happy. Canada and Israel just signed a military cooperation agreement(again, I’m pretty sure, without a vote in the House of Commons). Oh, such good times for Canadian Zionism.

        Who could see it ever ending?

      • RoHa
        December 8, 2011, 7:25 pm

        “Dude, stop slagging Canada!”

        How else can I annoy you, then?

  7. alfa
    December 8, 2011, 12:20 am

    Nutt is breaking US law by promising to appoint Dolton

    Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

    Title 18, Part I, Chapter 29, Section 599 of the U.S. Code

  8. DICKERSON3870
    December 8, 2011, 7:33 am

    RE: “GOP presidential candidates offer red meat on Israel at Republican Jewish Coalition forum” ~ Kane

    KNUCKLE DRAGGERS UNITED: Perry gets asked to stop ‘liberal, socialist, Marxist’ education system, By Eric W. Dolan, Raw Story, 12/07/11

    (excerpt) Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry was asked how to stop leftist universities from corrupting students* at the Republican Jewish Coalition Forum on Wednesday.

    “I invite you to talk about our universities,” a woman said. “It seems like we’re paying for our own defamation, though student loans paid for by the government. We send our open-minded, good-hearted 18-year-olds who generally love our country to school and four-years later, they pop out, they despise America, they hate capitalism, they think Israel is the devil. And we’re helping to fund this.”
    “Do you have any ideas on how you can stop a system that is 95 percent liberal, socialist, Marxist?” she concluded.
    After the question, Perry unexpectedly squinted and gave a thumbs up to someone in the audience. He then responded to the woman by stating he had set out seven reforms in Texas aimed at evaluating the cost-benefit ratio of state funds for universities…

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to rawstory.com

    * In other words, “how do we dumb down our children so that they love Israel?” My guess: Midge Decter

    • DICKERSON3870
      December 8, 2011, 7:53 am

      P.S. RE: “My guess: Midge Decter” – me, above

      ANOTHER POSSIBILITY (as to the propounder): Gertrude Himmelfarb

    • DICKERSON3870
      December 8, 2011, 8:06 am

      P.P.S. ALSO SEE: Disengaging from Zionism, by Kristoffer Larsson, Dissident Voice, 12/07/11

      (excerpt)…I came to think of Goldstone’s destiny as I was reading “Beyond Tribal Loyalties: Personal Stories of Jewish Peace Activists”. The book is an anthology with contributions from 25 Jewish activists living in different parts of the world who have come to see the conflict from the Palestinian point of view.
      For most Jews, criticising Israel comes at a price – relatives and Jewish friends regard it as treason, they are accused of being self-hating, and in some cases even of paving the way for another Holocaust…
      This culture of intolerance is well captured by American musician Rich Siegel when he describes himself as “a cult survivor.” There is something “very seriously wrong with Israel, and with the culture that supports it,” he writes.

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to dissidentvoice.org

      • American
        December 8, 2011, 12:11 pm

        “There is something “very seriously wrong with Israel, and with the culture that supports it”

        That’s long been obvious……as well as what’s wrong with the political culture that supports those who support it.
        Money and our special interest msm dumbing down of America will be the death of us….if we don’t get very lucky soon.

    • Kathleen
      December 8, 2011, 11:13 am

      The Birthright program

  9. Chu
    December 8, 2011, 9:03 am

    No wonder Paul was excluded. He has too much class to be in this room.
    I can see Gingrich and his camp imploding, because he is so undisciplined.
    Israel is one great example of his sloppiness.

    • DICKERSON3870
      December 8, 2011, 9:50 am

      NEWT IN A “DIRTY FRAME” (Facebook jpeg image) – link to facebook.com

    • dumvitaestspesest
      December 8, 2011, 10:26 am

      Ron Paul is not a part of the “Allmighty Clique of ‘wanna/gonna be president’ “,
      who have to prove their loyalty to the hand that feeds them.
      That”s why he was excluded. He is above that,
      The rest is just a series od ugly, fake teeth ,phony smile puppets ,who wave their little tails to please almighty Master and score some points with him.
      Oh, what else we can do four you masteeer??
      You want us to start the war with Iran? We’ll do it.
      You want us to move the embassy to Jerusalem?? Be my guest.
      You want us to arrest all Americans, who dare to criticise You?? The right orders are made.
      Oh master, almighty master, we love soooo much. Woof, woof.

    • Kathleen
      December 8, 2011, 11:33 am

      Gingrich’s numbers going up demonstrates just how mean really mean and dangerous the Republican party has become. Onward Christian soldiers….

  10. dimadok
    December 8, 2011, 10:01 am

    I apologize for the question, but Alex how about retracting of some BS you wrote about Brejvik link to mondoweiss.net ?
    Since the guy is schizophrenic and cannot stand the trial-does it mean you owe some erratum posted?

    • ahmed
      December 8, 2011, 12:32 pm

      hilarious. maybe if bin laden had been captured alive by the Norwegians they could have done a psych eval on him, and found he was profoundly disturbed, and everyone would be lining up to apologize. Breivik is lucky he wasn’t bundled off to Guantanamo, where if you werent crazy to begin with….you certainly would end up mad.

  11. Polly
    December 8, 2011, 10:23 am

    Obama probably has visions of Dallas in 63 when he thinks about visiting Israel.
    It really is incredible when you consider he’s hated because he can only manage 99 percent unconditional support.

  12. DICKERSON3870
    December 8, 2011, 10:48 am

    RE: “GOP presidential candidates offer red meat on Israel at Republican Jewish Coalition forum” ~ Kane

    ALSO SEE: Rick Perry calls for Israel aid increase, Maggie Haberman, Politico, 12/07/11
    LINK – link to politico.com

  13. Kathleen
    December 8, 2011, 10:49 am

    Jon “this is just a comedy show” Stewart and Rachel Maddow both once again helped set the stage for an attack on Iran on their shows last night.

    Last night Chris Matthews hammered on what the use of the loaded word “appeasement” means when used in reference to Israel.

    He also had Republican Strategist Bradshaw on along with David Corn. She kept repeating that the Obama adminstration had not been supportive of Israel. Corn and Matthews kept asking her for specific examples of the lack of support.

    Chris Matthews and David Corn did not object or correct her when she repeated the debunked and endlessly repeated claim that Iran wants to “wipe Israel off the map” Neither one corrected or objected.

    And last night “liberal” Jon”I’m just a comedian” Stewart hammered Iran again. Repeating “Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and wants to blow up the world” bullshit again. He then went onto say that Iran might sell the downed drone information to China. Stewart must know that Israel has sold plenty of US military technology to China. Jon Stewart continues to help set the stage for an attack on Iran

    • American
      December 8, 2011, 12:03 pm

      Never liked Stewart anyway, his brand of funny is on the level of the three stooges or the old road runner cartoons..silly.
      I think we can write him off as a zionit.

      • Kathleen
        December 9, 2011, 10:37 am

        Like Stewart and his writers on most issues. For decades they would not get anywhere near the I/P issue and would not criticize any Israeli leaders, policies, the I lobby etc. But would often rip up other world leaders and other hypocritical issues. A real wienie hypocritical stance.

        The last few years the Daily show writers and Stewart started dipping their toes into the I/P issue, have heard them criticize the I lobby a bit. Not much. But on Iran Jon Stewart has been out in front demonizing Iran. Not Colbert.

    • Chu
      December 8, 2011, 12:27 pm

      “Neither one corrected or objected.”
      That is the core problem that we witness to often. When someone makes a claim like ‘wipe Israel off the map’ and Corn or whomever sits there and says nothing (in the msm pseudo debate format), it’s practically accepted as truth to the audience. In TV political land, no one disputes the lie.

      Bachman had just said the same thing (wipe off Israel…) in a recent republican debate, and No one disputed it. Not one.
      So these falsehoods aims to educate the viewers that it’s the truth, which it isn’t.

      sidenote: Jon Stewart was the roomate of Mega-Ziocane Abuser Anthony Weiner. I wouldn’t trust Stewart (Liebovitz) to even mock the real news. He’s just a clown politician that knows who writes his checks. While he supports many good political ideas, he’s a greasy coward when it comes to Israel, and uses his corny jokes format as his foil to evade. But now he is pushing the agenda. Great news…

  14. American
    December 8, 2011, 11:20 am

    If this doesn’t prove that the inmates are running the asylum I don’t know what does. So now if Obama doesn’t say he would also increase aid to Israel he’s anti Israel.
    I don’t think anyone has ever seen anything crazier in this country or any other than making what you will do for a foreign country as President of the US a platform of your campaign.
    Seriously, has anyone ever seen this phenomenon in any other country?
    Are there any other examples out there?

    Rick Perry: I’d increase aid to Israel
    Perry vows increased military aid to Israel
    ‎ – msnbc.com
    Rick Perry seeks to repair rift over foreign aid to Israel
    ‎ – Los Angeles Times
    Globe and Mail CBS News – 17 hours ago
    “America long ago ended the traditional foreign aid to Israel. … aid in all forms under a Perry administration will increase to Israel,” he said. …1158 related articles

  15. Kathleen
    December 8, 2011, 11:32 am

    Amazing to think that the meanest guy on the block is in the number one position for the Republicans. And the one with the most marriages too.

    This is what gets me about all of the pro fetus life is sacred until you are born or live in Iraq fake Christians, Jews etc in the Republican party well and some in the Dem Party. Fake Christians like Gingrich, Bachman, Palin, Perry etc who scream pro life (fetus) rhetoric and then stand against health care for all, equity in education, fair wages. Pull yourself up by your boot straps at minimum wages you good for nothing lazy asses.

    And Gingrich is one of the meanest and most hypocritical. Add Bolton and we have a most volatile and poisonous mix…just ready to explode. God help Americans and others around the world if Gingrich and Bolton were in the White House.

  16. Kathleen
    December 8, 2011, 11:54 am

    Republicans just threw more red meat to Wall Street
    Richard Cordray Nomination: Senate Republicans Block Nominee For Consumer Agency
    “WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort to put someone in charge at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a move that prevents the newly formed agency from supervising some of the same nonbank entities that triggered the financial crisis.

    The Senate voted 53 to 45 to reject a procedural motion to begin debate on confirming Richard Cordray as the CFPB director. The motion required 60 votes to pass. Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) was the lone Republican to side with Democrats in seeking to begin debate.”
    —————————
    Occupy Wall Street should stage a sit in in the Senate. Clearly the Republican­s do not want an independen­t body over seeing Wall Steet and the banking industry. Occupy every Senators office who voted no on Cordray.

    All who voted no are demonstrat­ing they do not want over sight

  17. American
    December 8, 2011, 11:55 am

    From Col Lang site:

    “Gingrich was interviewed by Blitzer today and in the course of the interview he said that if the Israelis told him as president that they were going to attack Iran with conventional arms he would give them all necessary support “to keep them from going nuclear.”
    Well! He is the first big time friend of Israel to raise that prospect. Think about it. pl ”

    Here’s the cnn transcript of the interview:
    link to transcripts.cnn.com

    I’m going to be forced to vote for Obama just to try and prevent any of these GOP whackos being elected. No doubt in my mind that if Newt gets in we will have another war.

  18. Richard Witty
    December 8, 2011, 12:41 pm

    Right now its about money.

    Its a dumb strategy for the republican contenders. The cranky Jews that support republicans don’t need the difference, though they love the assurances. (McCain attempted the same thing.)

    The liberal Jews will regard Obama’s stance as the right one, the slightly left of center view, and stick with Obama.

    That Barak declared last week that the Obama administration is confidently supportive of Israel’s existence, laid to rest the attempt to make a distinct contrast as far as exposing Israel to international condemnation or to implied renunciation of defense support.

  19. Chu
    December 8, 2011, 12:42 pm

    Politics in the US has really hit the gutter. These pseudo candidates
    should say ‘I support Israel when it is in line with helping US objectives’.

    But all we hear is fawning over the precious state and how if they ‘get elected’
    they are going to love Israel with all of their heart and stand up to the bully
    Iran. It’s not even interesting anymore.

    These people are just puppets for campaign cash. They don’t care
    about Israel, they care about getting a leg up above the others. Can
    it be any more obvious that the Israel issue is about getting big money?

    • American
      December 8, 2011, 1:47 pm

      “Can it be any more obvious that the Israel issue is about getting big money?

      The problem is they then keep their Israel promises to the zio money because there’s always the next election and next election –where they will want that zio political money again and they have to show what they did for them the time before.

  20. yourstruly
    December 8, 2011, 12:55 pm

    should the p/i conflict not be brought up by the candidates next year, it’ll be up to the justice for palestine movement to see that it is. it’s not as if we have no means of accomplishing this – person to person, internet, rallies, adds (wherever accepted). radio & tv (again, wherever possible), street theatre, running candidates who pledge, among other things, if elected to cut off financial aid to israel. and assuming that some time next year the occupy movement will be inserting itself into the election campaign, perhaps backing certain issues, rather than candidates, pro-palestinians/anti-zionists must find a way to put justice for palestine on the occupy movement’s agenda. will we succeed in these endeavors? how will we know unless we try?

  21. HarryLaw
    December 8, 2011, 1:30 pm

    GOP candidates would accuse Mondoweiss supporter’s of not living in the real world, and of being extremists. But could Mondoweiss be any more moderate, one could even say boringly mainstream, look at the groups of world opinion who Mondoweiss and other ‘extremists’ are complicit with:-

    1. UN resolutions voted on every year, US and Israel (approximately 5% of world population) on one side, the rest of the world on the other.
    2. Arab league – 22 states support for International Law based on 1967 borders with complete normalization with Israel if these borders are accepted, 0 against.
    3. The organization of Islamic states in agreement with Arab league on borders and normalization, 57 states to 0 against.
    4. The highest and most respected court in the world, the International court of justice on borders and settlements in International law, 15 judges to 0 (2004).
    The US and Israel are on the wrong side of history.

    Demographically:- Greater Israel or the land of Israel has too many Arabs in it unless of course they are given the vote along with equality and Israel becomes a state for all its citizens. That is not what Zionists have in mind.

    Technologically:- The surrounding states accumulation and expertise in weapons and systems will at some stage in the near future pose a huge threat, Israel will have to bomb them all into the stone age every 10 years or so, just to keep its edge.

    Ideologically: – The world will not put up with an apartheid state for long.

    In other words in my opinion, unless Israel and the GOP align themselves with the rest of mankind – Israel is doomed.

  22. yourstruly
    December 8, 2011, 1:39 pm

    as these presidential candidates tout their pro-israel credentials

    even though the zionist entity israel’s popularity is waning here in america, particularly among jewish youth

    such that israel’s days are now numbered

    come election day

    best watch out candidates

    lest you each be hoisted by your own petard

  23. tombishop
    December 9, 2011, 11:15 am

    John Stewart nailed the hypocrisy of the Jewish Coalition forum on his Thursday night show:

    link to thedailyshow.com

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