The fascinating Alan Dershowitz
Let’s see: Alan Dershowitz called Obama Neville Chamberlain just a couple months back. Last year he said Obama was torpedoing the peace process by talking about the 1967 lines. Oh and here he launches an all-out assault on J Street as anti-Israel.
That piece begins:
Alan M. Dershowitz’s Perspective: President Obama recently invited me to the Oval Office for a discussion about Iran.
Some folks get access.
Dersh is precisely the kind of chap who annihilated any trust in the two-state solution.
How degrading. That man [Obama] has no dignity.
The phrase that comes to mind is “house negro”, except I would extend Malcolm X’s concept into “house American” since Obama’s skin colour is irrelevant:
He characterizes the house
NegroAmerican as having a better life than thefield Negroaverage American, and thus unwilling toleave the plantationsay to no Israel, and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favourwhiteszionists overblacksAmericans.This is the same if President Roosevelt invited Göbbels to discuss the situation in Germany and ask for advice!
How low can you sink for that second term?
I’ve followed the Dersh a little, in no small because of his influence, and from what I’ve gathered Obama has been consulting with him on a regular basis via phone and in person. And Dershowitz understands because of the power and the weight of the lobby behind him, he can spit the president in the face any time of the day without any consequences.
When he was crusading against MJ Rosenberg, he even said outloud that if the White House doesn’t distance itself from Media Matters he will ‘personally make sure that the entire Jewish community does not vote for Obama’. But of course we all know the real threat is the donor base.
His quote was probably more bravado than anything credible but it still speaks volumes to how utterly comfortable he is abusing the president mentally and politically time and time again and yet keeps getting invited back.
As easy it is to depict Dershowitz as a loathsome figure, in no small part because the canvas paints itself so to speak, what does this say about the US president?
Obama is truly making himself look like a pathetic tool here with no willpower whatsoever.
‘Obama is truly making himself look like a pathetic tool here with no willpower whatsoever.’
Well, Obama is a pathetic tool with no willpower whatsoever. Dershowitz is entirely right to compare him to Neville Chamberlain. It’s just that he’s mistaken about who is playing Hitler in this simile.
Obama showed the Dersh the line on the doorway for how high he goes when israel says “jump!” and the timer for how fast he jumps when the zionists bark … Dersh was not impressed – seems O is a millimeter too low and a millisecond too late to please his masters
I think it’s good politics, despite Dershowitz’s obnoxious behavior in recent years. As an American citizen I want to see Obama re-elected for all sorts of reasons and this might help a bit with Jewish voters/donors. It might also tame Dershowitz a bit. I guess I’d react differently if I though that this meeting got in the way of some imminent I/P breakthrough, but it doesn’t. I don’t want Romney as President; I’m not interested in heightening the contradictions.
I don’t know why you prefer Obama over Romney, when in fact, they’re the same guy. The US is a one-party state, run by the Zionists and other assorted checkwriters, and it’s irrelevant who’s in the Oval Office. The President, like all the lapdogs in Congress, has limited influence on foreign policy or most anything of substance. You won’t succeed in US politics unless you’re owned before declaring for office, and the people that gravitate to this profession do it out of vanity and ego gratification. Yes, it’s sad, but on the other hand very liberating — no more need to anguish over the results of sham “elections”…
Evets, it might be good politics but it does leave one with a bad after taste and loss of respect for Obama that he is so willing to humiliate himself (and therefore us). But unfortunately, I will still vote for him for one reason — Romney has surrounded himself with advisers that are clamoring for war against Iran. Obama, I still believe, if he is re-elected will come to an agreement with Iran short of war.
Obama does favor cyber war, drones, and NGO infiltration. None of these will bring the Iranian regime to heel, not even when you add all the economic sanctions, including on the central bank of Iran, effective next month. No matter who is in POTUS office, if Bibi decides to attack Iran, under whatever pretext or false flag OP, the US Congress will join Israel with US military might and POTUS will go along.
When does POTUS Obama’s obvious philosemitism become masochist self-destruction?
This really is pitiable.
As Dersh likes to describe himself as “of counsel” to the Israeli gov’t [or at least his publisher likes to so describes Dersh on dust jackets, why isn’t Obama asking AG Holder to open an investigation as to whether Dersh is in compliance with the Foreign Agents Registration Act?
Yes, it’s a rhetorical question.
SInce Dershowitz is the standard-bearer of the neverending peace-process which leads to the “no-state” rearrangement of the Palestinian soil, I think he is the very man that Obama is willing to hire, as far as he is eagerly engaged to avert any concrete decision about the Israel-Palestine conflict. What better chance for Obama? The couple seems perfect, on that issue. Although – it happens – sometimes Obama makes a fool of himself. And it should work also for the second term. About Iran, I guess the issue be more complicated.
What a shame and a disgrace to America that our President–like him or not–has to sink so low in order to appease the Israel Lobby.
Maybe the Dersh is arguing for his erstwhile client Assange? Ha!
Most likely arguing for his “client” Jonathan Pollard.
Whilst Bush was in power, the Walt’s and Obama’s of the this world told us that the US was being rejected because of its abuse of power and unwillingness to talk to the enemy. All you need to do is to talk nicely to them. “They are like us”, they told us, “who want the same types of things”. Well how wrong Obama and the Walt’s have proven to have been. But still they continue to ignore and find excuses for the evil perpetrated by many Arabs and Muslims. Obama can learn from Dershowitz.
giladg, I don’t understand your comment. The US remains rejected because of its abuse of power and unwillingness to talk to the enemy. Although Obama talks more nicely than Bush Jr did, the creed is in Obama’s deeds. His pattern is established. Dershie is simply an outright liar, a spinner of his own hate-filled bipolar vision.
>> Whilst Bush was in power, the Walt’s and Obama’s of the this world told us that the US was being rejected because of its abuse of power and unwillingness to talk to the enemy.
The U.S. continues to abuse its power. giladgeee is just glad that the U.S. is abusing it in Israel’s favour. If it were to abuse its power against Israel, he would be rejecting the U.S. faster than you could say “Remember the Holocaust!”
Good grief, you will say anything the hasbara squad comes up with. If the US is rejected, it is more often than not, because it is Israel’s partner, lawyer, chief apologist and a shield to make sure Israel is never held to account for its litany of abuses and crimes. Nobody has been proved wrong, if anything they have been proved right. Your willingness to spout divisive, racist claptrap is typical of the Dersh and his feeble, stupid arguments.
I would LOVE to debate Dersh. His ‘legal’ arguments are so full of gaping black holes. The only way he can make them work is by re-writing the documents he cites.
You can’t debate someone like Dersh. He’ll shout you down and chew the scenery, and that’s if you can get his attention for longer than 5 seconds.
But I wouldn’t want to debate him on legal grounds anyway. Any defender of Zionism should first be challenged to explain how Zionism is not a settler-colonial movement whose basic aim, a Jewish state, can only be achieved through some form of racist segregation. For just about every defender of Israel, creating the Jewish state was a victimless crime and getting them to acknowledge the most basic facts that cast their movement in a bad light, such as the Kibbutzim barring Arab workers (Jewish Arabs included) is like leading a horse to water.
‘…For just about every defender of Israel, creating the Jewish state was a victimless crime and getting them to acknowledge the most basic facts that cast their movement in a bad light, such as the Kibbutzim barring Arab workers (Jewish Arabs included) is like leading a horse to water…’
Bad simile. It’s easy to lead a horse to water.
But you can’t make it drink.
talknic, here’s Finklestein trying to pin down Dershie on plagiarism of misstatement of facts and simple direct misstatement of facts: link to rense.com
It’s probably not a bad move. Dershowitz strikes me as exactly the kind of little worm who would really get off on being able to tout his association with the president.
…and to make that association meaningful, he’s going to have to imply there was some sort of meeting of minds. And to imply THAT, he’s going to have to tone down his own rhetoric. ‘Bomb Iran’ will have to be replaced with ‘forceful action,’ etc. We’ll all wind up hopefully standing around waiting for Obama to gird up his loins and do something.
And sometimes that Obama is the original mouse man has its points. Anyone who starts waiting for Obama to gird up his loins is going to be waiting a LONG time. There’s no reason to think this will make Dershowitz more dangerous. It’s possible it’ll make him less so.