I have the impression today that there is now widespread knowledge of and discomfort with the special relationship inside the U.S. but an inability to express these views. Some evidence: The Palm Beach Post reports on a Democratic Party official in Florida who doesn’t like the occupation but sure learned to keep her mouth shut about it. Note that a Jewish party chair interpreted these criticisms as anti-Semitic, and the offending official then accepted that charge.
Ask yourself what would have happened to her if emails came out in which she had criticized the American presence in Afghanistan– would she have lost her post?
Evelyn Garcia, a member of the Democratic National Committee from Palm Beach County, resigned the post Monday after emails surfaced in which she sharply criticized Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.
Garcia, a candidate for the State House of Representatives from District 88, which includes parts of West Palm Beach and Riviera Beach, said she would continue to campaign for that seat. She apologized for her remarks and called them “ugly” and “hurtful.”
… Some of the [emails] appear to have been written to a South Florida Congressional aide.
“The continued Israeli occupation of Palestine is ugly on moral, ethical, religious and legal grounds,” Garcia said in an email dated July 26, 2011. “Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust and it is time that this guilt trip was taken off their backs…. And I deeply resent U.S. taxpayer funds being used to continue Israeli aggression.”
In that same email, Garcia accused Israel of confiscating land and building illegal settlements in occupied territories, as well as “incursions that kill people, destroy civilian homes and infrastructure all over; mass concentration prison camps, etc.”
…County Democratic Party Chairman Mark Alan Siegel accepted Garcia’s resignation Monday afternoon. He called the emails “grossly inappropriate.”…
In a separate statement emailed later Friday to The Palm Beach Post, Garcia said: “My comments were not only inappropriate and hurtful, they are exactly the kind of ugly rhetoric that is not conducive to the overall atmosphere needed to create a prosperous peace and security for both parties. I apologize to anyone I offended and to my friends in the Democratic Party, in particular, members of the Jewish faith whom I have worked with for years.”
It’s very sad to see proud representatives of the people reduced to snivelling wretches by the power of the lobby. I do hope there that one day there isn’t a fearful backlash against it.
4. link to ft.com
“We talk briefly about the work of playwright Ronald Harwood, who is a cousin of Sher’s. Born 15 years earlier than Sher, Harwood lived through the second world war and was acutely aware of the irony of growing up Jewish in South Africa, a country that persecuted a different group of people.
“I feel exactly that same thing,” says Sher. “In my case it is combined with a sense of some anger and shame that not all the Jews of South Africa made the obvious comparison. A fantastic, heroic list did: Albie Sachs, Helen Suzman, Joe Slovo. But they were brave people to stand up against the system. My family were completely the opposite: life was good for them now and they were not going to rock the boat. And once I became politicised about South Africa, I was really shocked that we could have done that in just the space of one generation
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Hasabra will switch to full gear to defend the indefensible culture in political landscape.Their argument is predictable and will run as follows-” Mc Chrystal had to resign after he did not like Obama’s approach to war” and the voters will move forward. The difference between generating a debate and practice of policies will be forgotten.
She should’ve stood her ground. But Palm Beach is filled with geezer Jews with lots of dough, so south Florida politics hovers around them, at least on the South East Coast.
So what choice did she have? Still, it’s hard to see if she has any political future now in that area of the nation. She might as well go independent or whatnot.
Well yes. From what I understand of politics in Florida, she may well have thought that but writing it and hoping it would square with her political ambition was a display of a serious lack of political acumen. She is most likely an idiot. Integrity on this matter will help no one among the democrats.
Finklestein’s forced departure from De paul, removal of Obama’s muslim supporter from visibility,refusal to allow Desmond Tutu to speak in the college of Minnesota,and at the American Psychiatric conference of 2011,stopping the publication of book critical of Israel in France and attempt to do so in USA ( the book by University of Michigan faculty and the book by Mersheimer and Walt),removal of Sanchez from CNN and hounding out of Sylvia Nasr from CNN, use of vertically integrated McArthismesque tactics to get Helen Thomas combined with similar transatlantic success in England (against a number of MPs and party officers ) and in Germany ( against Gunter ) show that the poisoned ,effective successful influences over media,academy,educational events,politics,and governments ( ? anything left) of the lobby has driven a knife in the very essence of western society and in the ideas of human choices based on information.
This has become possible for the discussion and decision over Isarel-Arab were always kept out of the view of the public and forced inaction from the citizen.
This is why in today’s NYTimes Tom Friedman writes that Jewish were always focused on vertical rather than transverse participation in any society,always suspicious of common people . Interestingly same reason was offered and supported by the late father of PM Nethanyhoo in the book “Inquisition” .
Good list – to which I would add Chas Freeman.
Sorry for forgetting Mr Freeman.
The list is longer, e.g., Findley, Fullbright, Percy, Baird: Here Fullbright tried to convince Ford he should speak out directly to the American people, and use the same reasoning Ike did when he pulled Israel away from its foray against Egypt: link to thirdworldtraveler.com
It’s also reasonably arguable, George Bush Jr lost a second term due to his threat to cut off loan guarantees to Israel.
Oops, I mean George Bush Sr–Junior learned the lesson well, and Obama almost as well by now.
The Obama ref was Chas Freeman, I think
link to lrb.co.uk
New York Times ad accuses BDS movement, college professors of inciting murder of Jewish children
link to electronicintifada.net
On Shabbos the rabbi stood outside neighbor’s house shouting F-you at his ‘Free Palestine’ bumper sticker
link to mondoweiss.net
London Philharmonic
link to mondoweiss.net
Gunter Grass
link to haaretz.com
Zionism is vile
Plus Judge Napolitano, Cynthia McKinney, Paul Findley, Jim Traficant, Earl Hilliard, Megan Fox (sort of), Delmon Young, Charles H. Percy, George McGovern, and Roger Jepsen.
Some day in the future, people will look back on these incidents and their underlying causes, and wonder, “How could the people have permitted these things to happen in a democracy?”
Good list, Gulag ChooChoo. And don’t forget to add Mel Gibson. . .lol
Seriously, just think for a moment what a powerful thing the Internet is. Virtually everything I know about Israel and the I/P conflict I got from the Web. Somebody throws out a name I don’t know like Chas. Freeman and I can run it down in a matter of seconds.
The Web is to the Zionism what David’s rock was to Goliath. Unless Israel can somehow get control of the Web in the next 5-10 years, Israel as we know it now is doomed. They have to be able to stop the flow of information in order to complete their Palestinian pogrom. It’ll never happen.
Without the Web, only those in FL would have a clue who Garcia is, and none would likely understand the context of her comments or why what she is doing is so important. In the end, when the tide has turned and the general population sees how they have been controlled, the Israel firster news-Jews like Stu Schwartz, Leslie Mooves, the Redstones, Jane Harmon, Mort Zuckerman …. will lose their power, and probably a lot more than that. I think the I/P conflict is the way Americans will come to understand and then revolt against the Zionist hegemony over American politics and media.
BTW, while I’m gushing about the Web — I see there’s been an X1.1 solar flare about 7pm Fri. EDT. X is the most powerful class. No report of a coronal mass ejection yet, but you might want to tune into NASA or SolarHam link to solarham.net It takes a couple days for trouble to reach Earth, so just a heads up. See, you’d never know about this w/out the Web. Jane Harmon is probably covering it up.
i hope she raises a bunch of funds from people around the country as a result of these revelations going public. it is a shame she kowtowed and resigned her DNC position but none the less she’s still running.
it’s grotesque that the democratic party supports the occupation. it’s supposed to represent the democrats, not israelis or zionists.
it is a shame she kowtowed and resigned her DNC position but none the less she’s still running. it’s grotesque that the democratic party supports the occupation.
Totally agree.
Beneath the calm exterior contrived by a complicit MSM that speaks of ties that bind and a special relationship that “cannot be broken”, a silent rage grows in this land of ours.
Cowed to silence by a tyrannical lobby, volatility grows and stability succumbs. Beware the rage that mounts slowly: far worse than the fleeting passion that subsides quickly. Once unleashed, its wrath will be terrifying. The guilty and the innocent will both fall before its might.
There is still time, though it recedes fast, to stem the tide by voices raised in defiance of the daemonic few. From fear to anger, then anger to hate, a cauldron bubbles to its inevitable boil. Something wicked this way comes…
Thanks.Israel should remember the end result of that vertical relationship they developed in Shah’s Iran teaching the SAVAK how to interrogate the poor unhappy Iranians left to boil in rage.
“Beneath the calm exterior contrived by a complicit MSM that speaks of ties that bind and a special relationship that “cannot be broken”, a silent rage grows in this land of ours. “…C&D
I agree….but it hasn’t reached outright ‘rage’ yet in the majority as it has in some of the minority ..the majority is more like ‘festering’ and “simmering”..hasn’t gone over the top quite yet.
If it ever does blow it’s going to blow big.
If the religious church movement against Israeli I/P spreads more the heat is going to be turned up considerably on all things zionist.
Zionist rule in congress might not be the single precipitating factor in a public blowup but it will be included.
They can’t avoid it, their fingerprints are everywhere and they have made a lot of enemies like this woman who will be waiting in the wings for political revenge.
I hate to agree with you CloakAndDagger but I fear you are right. I hope not.
From what I read of Evelyn Garcia’s email it seems she has a fairly good grasp of the situation in Israel/Palestine. She has a right to express that, and more fool her for backing down. I’d rather go down with my dignity and conscience intact than publicly humiliate myself by repudiating everything I believe in. It reminds me of dissident intellectuals in communist countries being forced to renounce their views on television.
The Israel lobby is distorting US politics in the extreme. If that influence isn’t curtailed it is inevitable there will be a backlash, at some point.
@Sumud
Many of us would, but we don’t know what intimidation she was subjected to. Perhaps her family was threatened. Perhaps she was blackmailed – most politicians have a skeleton or two rattling in their closet.
We have seen that when you defy the lobby, you stand alone, stripped of everything. It matters little whether you’re a jew or a gentile – you will be dealt with.
In a different post, American said that the lobby is not that powerful and it is cowardice on the part of the victim that allows them to thrive. He is right in that, but when you are standing there with no one daring to lift a finger to help you, it must be terrifyingly lonely as you look over your shoulders at the growing shadows.
The obvious solution is for all good men (and women) to rally to her aid. Now is the time to organize a visible and vocal support for her since they have conveniently brought light to this in public. It is going to be tough doing that in Florida, but it is worth a shot.
“It reminds me of dissident intellectuals in communist countries being forced to renounce their views on television.”
Yes. I always remember how totalitarianism was explained as this evil system were a child could tell on her parents for having said things against the party. There is a similar party one cannot criticize today in the western world for fear of losing friends and family. The mildest questioning can raise eyebrows. Let’s wait for the day when young children go to the police station reporting that “Daddy made a critical comment about the occupation at the dinner table yesterday”. “Oh really? Has this happened before?…”.
Yes, she should know that before someone with a name like “Garcia” expresses an opinion about israel in American Democratic party politics, that someone with a name like “Siegel” must first examine it to be sure it doesn’t offend the mandatory political orthodoxy…
And to read the statement at the end, it reads as if the next thing she said was, “There, you happy? Could you please get the gun away from my cat’s head now?”
someone with a name like “Siegel” must first examine it to be sure it doesn’t offend the mandatory political orthodoxy
My mother’s maiden name is “Siegel” and nobody in her family is Jewish. A German surname doesn’t equal Jewishness.
No, but the odds are pretty good that a person named Siegel who is also chairman of the Palm Beach County Democratic Party is Jewish, given the demographics.
But point taken.
“If you really think hard, you can figure out that “people like you” refers to my being Jewish, which this reader must have deduced from my last name, which sounds–Jewish.” – Jeffrey Feldman
@ Woody Tanaka,
side note: need time on that kamikaze story. Hard to find anything in English. My wife heard it10 years ago [TV docu].
I’m not sure what you are referring to. What kamikaze story?
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t the thread “Sam Harris exposed” veer off (for a while) into a discussion of suicidal military tactics (please excuse the redundancy) and the motivations of the participants. Could that be what Daniel Rich is referring to?
Might be more fruitful to examine the motivations of those who plan, administer and officer those suicide missions, but let it go. Funny we always wonder about the poor schlimazels who undertake them, as if they made the whole thing up themselves.
Mooser,
That is what I assume, too, but I wasn’t certain. Also, I’m not certain exactly what information Daniel Rich is looking for.
Very sad indeed. I hope MW devotes some effort in this election season to inform us of our choices at the November ballot box. My inclination is to vote Green, unless my state is in play, in which case I must necessarily vote the lesser of two evils. But if it is not in play, is Green the best choice?
Vote your conscience no matter what the prediction is in your state for the presidential ticket. I live in Alaska, which will vote overwhelmingly for the GOP nominee, and plan on voting for Dr. Stein for president. Downstream, though, my wife and I are planning three fundraisers for Democrats running for office, or for a candidate in a non-partidan mayoral race who aligns directly with the Democrats on all issues (except the endless wars and their baggage).
Many say that Nader was a spoiler in 2000. Without his presence on the ballot Yitzak Shamir’s patsy Gore would have won, they claim. Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum. Pick your poison.
mudder,
Gore won the popular vote nationwide and in Florida. HAD HIS TEAM POSSESSED CAJONES and a sense of the jugular, he would have been president. Ralph Nader had nothing whatsoever to do with Al Gore’s campaign’s lack of will.
“Gore won the popular vote nationwide and in Florida. HAD HIS TEAM POSSESSED CAJONES and a sense of the jugular, he would have been president. Ralph Nader had nothing whatsoever to do with Al Gore’s campaign’s lack of will.”
I figured someone would say that here. That ‘we wuz robbed’ in 2000 is one of the most cherished possessions of the American super-liberal.
No you weren’t. Bush won. I’ll never convince you of that (and don’t intend to try) but it’s the truth.
Depends on your definition of winning. In a number of cases (you can google for it) Diebold machines stole the day. It has already been demonstrated how easy it is to tamper Diebold machines.
bingo.
link to gregpalast.com
2000 Presidential selection brought to us and the world through a U.S. Supreme Court Judicial Coup
“No you weren’t. Bush won.”
No denying that, is there? Bush, after all, did become President.
Some people ‘voted their conscience’ in 2000 and picked Nader.
That’s how Bush II got to be president.
That is not how Bush II was elected. More Democrats in Florida voted for Bush than voted for Nader. Quit blaming Gore’s loss on Nader!!!!!
Also this: “On January 12, when Al Gore presided over the counting of the electoral college votes, it was only members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) who rose, one by one, to protest the filing of Florida’s votes. They could not get a single Democratic senator (from a body that includes not a single black representative) to join their objection. The silence of the white
Democrats in Congress turned the CBC demonstration into an emphatic
recapitulation of the election drama. As the presiding officer, Al Gore overruled the protests.”
link to prospect.org
I don’t see how this dsiproves my contention that if those who had voted for Nader had voted for Gore instead, Gore would have won.
You can vote your conscience if you want to. However, don’t complain about the results.
total hooey Colin. The U.S. Supreme Court chose the Bush administration. No way around it
my mom hurls that charge at me.
would gore have invaded iraq?
“my mom hurls that charge at me.”
Careful, Phil, you’re misanthropy is showing.
“would gore have invaded iraq?”
Was invading Iraq supposed to be a good thing, or a bad thing. I sort of forget whether or not you “supported” that particular war, and for how long.
I’ve heard others arguing otherwise — but I believe that yes, Gore would have invaded Iraq.
The pressures of the times would have forced him to. One thinks of Woodrow Wilson and World War One.
Now, it is possible that the occupation wouldn’t have turned into quite the corrupt farce of corporate greed and covert viciousness that it did — but yeah, we would have gone into Iraq, and I daresay the outcome would have been at least fairly unsatisfactory.
Places like Iraq are good at making invaders sorry they came. Ask the British.
Here you go, Mooser:
Weiss first became interested in Israel in the run-up to the Iraq war. “I felt there was some element of Jewish organizational life that was behind this war because it was good for Israel,” he says. The notion that the neoconservatives spoke for American Jews horrified him, and it imbued him with a sense of responsibility to speak out as a Jew. As he dove into books about Jewish and Middle Eastern history, he came up against what he saw as the essential conflict between Zionism and American liberalism—which, after all, defines itself precisely by its refusal to privilege any race or religion. link to tabletmag.com
Scott Ritter thinks he would have been “influenced” into it. Gore’s inability to stand up for himself in Congress would seem to support that. Lieberman as a VP would seem to cement it.
im inclined to agree. lieberman and the neocons, same difference
To some extent, the fact that Obama is today so close to to attacking Iran after being elected as one of the rare guys who said no to Iraq gives us a sense of the kind of pressure being applied on a President. Now pushing Gore into invading Iraq may have been a stretch. The arm twisting may have had to get ugly. Also Gore may have been less opposed on the international stage which would have made the whole thing more manageable (although not more legitimate when all is said and done).
I’m appalled at the complete disappearance of the “Chirac line” in France. I think Chirac and Schröder knew precisely they took a stand against neoconism. Now everyone in France is reflexively embracing intervention in the Middle East as the default position. Libya, Syria, Iran. France is über hawkish. Even with Sarkozy now gone. People do follow blindly whoever is at the wheel in foreign policy matters… Chirac Schröder was a big thorn in the neocons’ side. Now the West is nice big monolithic block.
I would recommend my choice, Libertarian, which supports an unambiguous unconditional end to all foreign aid. At the same time those Americans who are enamored of any foreign country or cause are free to contribute to contribute to it.
However Greens are nice people, and it is important to break away from the “lesser of two evils” thinking that guarantees the duopoly of Republicans and Democrats. I find it easier to convince people of the merits of libertarianism than to convince them to boycott these two parties. So when the two old party candidates are competing with each other to see who can be most beholden to the Likud, I would prefer to vote for a monkey if that were the third choice.
And then call up the old party candidates and tell them why.
AH, the Libertarians! Lot’s of drugs, combined with many more quacks to dispense them, and lot’s of guns, unlimited financial speculation in every area, and a heplful discussion on repealing the Civil Rights laws entire. Sounds like an American Utopia.
Yes, but no more foreign wars by the US Government! After all, they’ll be private companies to handle that sort of thing. Worked well for England in India and other places.
In case anybody cares, I’ll probably vote for Obama, simply because he’s the only non-white running, as far as I know. No, that’s a joke, I’ll vote for Obama cause he’s the only guy who can make the Bush foreign policy work. Or at least he seems to think so.
As far as Romney? No way I’m handing America over to the LDS Church without a fight. I’m ready to re-play the Deerfield Massacre any time. And if you don’t think that’s what Romney is about, just read the promises he made to the LDS Church when he was ordained.
“Libertarian, which supports an unambiguous unconditional end to all foreign aid.”
Sorry didn’t read your comment carefully. So the Libertarians want and end to “foreign aid” but invasions of foreign countries can still go on, if it provces profitable?
Yes sir, I’m always ready to vote for a guy who baldly states he does not think the government can do any good except paying him a salary. And since he has no faith in or aspiration for the US government, why not grab as much as you can?
Besides, when the Libertarians end hard-drug prohibitions, the populace will be so befuddled they won’t notice.
Under other circumstances, I might vote libertarian — Ayn Rand-type piggishness exalted into a virtue notwithstanding. It does accord with a lot of my preferences.
Sadly, global warming really is a problem — and now is not really the time for a surge of libertarian-type laissez-faire. I’m sorry Johnny, but now just isn’t the time to eat that particular cookie.
From the PB Post:
(Siegel):
He said he was surprised because Garcia “had never shown any animus toward Jews she encountered in her work for the party. “This wasn’t the Evelyn we knew,” he said.
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“had never shown animus toward Jews.” What a remarkable statement. Siegel makes Jews out to be a distinct minority group, one that latino women could presumably show animus towards, in the same way a white person might show animus towards brown skinned minorities. In Siegels mind, this latino women is the white man, and he, the Jew, is the oppressed minority. WOW. There is something extremely distasteful about all of this. There just doesn’t seem to be a sense of shame for the Israel apologists.
I read she’s Haitian American. Maybe that ‘minoritizes’ her even more! Not a member of a group that’s climbed the ladder of success and power, unlike poor, oppressed Siegal, forced to live in a second class country in order to further the interests of his first-class dream country.
Siegel has more surprises in store.One of these days he will say “That is not the America , we know”
Garcia “had never shown any animus toward Jews she encountered in her work for the party.”
Yeah, that’s clearly because she saved all her hatred for the e-mails.
I wonder if Mr Siegel is genuinely surprised or if he’s just acting.
Could anyone tell me why these e-mails were published?
What is even worse (and, frankly, epitomizes one of the biggest problem of many American Jews and Jewish organizations) is the notion that attacking israel’s actions constitutes “show[ing] animus toward Jews.”
Until American Jews overcome the attitude that says that opposition to israel is antisemitism per se, there will be no resolution to these issues in the US.
As usual, they get to conflate “jews” with Israel – and its slip silently into the general subconscious. If only more American jews were aware of how much harm that people like Siegel (jewish or not) do to them, they would tar and feather every one of them.
“they would tar and feather every one of them.”
Can’t mix tar with feathers. Not Kosher, like milk and meat. How else do you think Uri Avnery or Ron HaCohen, gets away with it?
Not only….her email was about Israel, not Jews. One is not the other.
Siegel confuses a nation state with a religious culture. How come?
Well, for one thing, if Israel was just considered as a nation-state without reference to the ethnicity of its inhabitants, our support for it wouldn’t make much sense.
“Well, for one thing, if Israel was just considered as a nation-state without reference to the ethnicity of its inhabitants, our support for it wouldn’t make much sense.”
Gosh, I thought it was because they “shared our values” and besides, I love cherry tomatoes, and talking on a cell phone!
Hophmi and Pudzionist666 have been working too hard lately, thought I’d let ‘em have a break.
Well here’s a good subject to raise in reply to all of those DNC fundraising letters from Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Is supporting International Law an automatic disqualifier for holding a position at the DNC?
Great point. Write Evelyn….let her know we are out here. That she has support for her honorable stance
link to evelyngarciacampaign.com
If a person in my position, of little significance or influence, can receive death threats, have a business almost ruined, house desecrated, friends and associates turned against me and my family, I can imagine what a person of some influence might have whispered in their ear if they continue to oppose the multi billion dollar Greater I$rael project.
Nothing is too low. They are, I hate to say, evil and so far from the basic tenets of Judaism, it amazes me they have the audacity to demand anyone call Israel the Jewish State, let alone the people whose territory they continue to steal.
In the late 1970s my NYC literary agent wrote me a letter after a summer of attempts to get my romansbildung novel (about growing up in America) published by a big time publisher (after my own three years of trying to do it via snail mail “over the transom)”. In the letter he said he himself loved the novel, and some editors did as well, “but before your novel gets published the Atoyallah Komeni and Menachem Begin will sit down and have tea together.” I still have the agent’s letter, along with a bunch of polite rejection letters, including some with great compliments, including one from Michael Korda of Simon & Schuster, who interviewed me on basis of my synopsis and sample chapters sent over transom –and a hoard of boilerplate “doesn’t fit our particular market” rejection letters.
“In the late 1970s my NYC literary agent wrote me a letter after a summer of attempts to get my romansbildung novel (about growing up in America) published by a big time publisher…”
Ah, maybe I can help you out. You need to get in touch with this guy and commiserate about the literary biz. He’s had the same trouble with agents and publishing houses, but has found a way around them.
Mooser, there is nothing at all literary about Mitt in any way conceivable. To me, Mitt is as banal and ruthless a corporate type as has ever lived. Plus he’s a Mormon cultist. You seem to be loosing whatever modest wit you once had.
I have to go sort of celebrate the 4th. Enjoy.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —
Time for a revolution American.
even the 4th of july has been hijacked. why not?
“Amidst the fireworks and family fun, let’s reflect on the larger meaning of our nation’s birth date……
….On this 4th of July, let’s recall the words from the Hebrew Bible inscribed on the Liberty Bell. “Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof”.
David Harris, AJC
link to ajc.org
And here I was thinking you were kidding.
link to theblaze.com
“[...] one of Schultz’s close longtime allies were shown to harbor extremist anti-Israel sentiments.”
Lets us not ask or wonder how and why those emails ended up in the hands of a Jewish organization -slash- person, especially given the fact that we do not know anything about Israeli/Jewish organizations keeping records, obtaining files of dirty little secrets on anyone that hinders them.
For those who wish to send a message of support after her whipping :
link to evelyngarcia.ngpvanhost.com
She is still running.
You can also contact Garcia here: link to evelyngarcia.ngpvanhost.com
I just sent her a long email, including suggesting she read the two articles here and the comments below them on the subject of her emails and subsequent resignation from the DNC.
citizen, her email is printed above and all over these copies. it is dhacf@yahoo.com
i’m serious about keeping this on the front page. after this presbyterian vote today i’m crossing my fingers code pink will focus on this attack on supporters of palestinians.
Annie, I got a personal email from her in less than an hour, thanking me for my support as the result of the contact email address I used. In my email I very pointedly went over all the facts showing her email stance on I-P was objectively correct. I also suggested she come to this web site and read up, and told her more and more Americans are getting aware despite the continued MSM propaganda and our politicians’ rubber-stamping AIPAC et al.
thanks citizen, i just emailed her too. i will try your link too. she should use all of this in her campaigning and know people will have her back. i just had the most surreal conversations last night at a wedding i attended with non political people. they are talking. people are not stupid.
Please do tell more. I am always interested in what the perception is with fellow Bay Area citizenry.
I just e mailed her too. Wish I had asked her whose office that aide was in…but I guess she doesn’t want to tell.
Interesting new column by Philip Giraldi on Israel’s influence on our politics: America Adopts the Israel Paradigm. This nugget should particularly interest you:
I wonder if Giraldi realizes how Kirk has been out of action. At any rate, he doesn’t mention it.
Please do tell more. I am always interested in what the perception is with fellow Bay Area citizenry.
I second that. Tell more, Annie.
The problem is, as I see it, that many people who grasp the basic injustice and barbarity of Israel do not have the very precise vocabulary and mountain of facts which must be used if one even hopes to avoid an imbroglio of this type. Let’s hope that reading Mondoweiss will help Ms. Garcia with that.
@ Mooser:
“The problem is that many people who grasp the basic injustice and barbarity of Israel do not have the very precise vocabulary and mountain of facts…”
Yes. That’s precisely why I started reading Mondoweiss.
Just sent her an e-mail, too. To let her know that I’m on her side.
I join the growing chorus here who want Annie to tell us what she experienced at that wedding while socializing with non-political Americans.
You can’t leave us hanging, Annie! Did they react as if you were suddenly a Martian?
ok! i will tell you my story from the wedding. first off i am not in the bay area, i’m in seattle. my friends who got married are both very high powered individuals. one a scientist and the other works for bill gates. some of those in attendance i have known for over a decade but had not seen for a long time.
as far as i know none of them are overtly political people (except some parents, see below). one of the people getting married is one of my very best friends, not political. that’s the back ground.
so, i was talking with a friend who works for angem, had not seen in a long time. probably 36, very swank and handsome. his new wife also works for angem. neither are white (or religious as far as i know). he asked me what i had been up to for all these years and i mentioned i was a political activist mainly focusing on ME stuff specifically i/p issues.
him:”what’s up with israel???????? i mean, if you say anything they say you’re anti semitic..it’s getting really bad over there..”
me: “well you actually can say something, many of us do and it’s important people vocalize, that’s a large part of what we do..is try to get that conversation out there. did you hear about the church divsetment”
him: “yes, that’s huge. (calls to his wife: ” honey..come over here were talking about what we were talking about what i was telling you…..”) but nobody says anything and the congress, it’s as if both sides, everyone agrees..and i don’t”
me:” lots of people don’t agree, but if no one says anything no one knows other people don’t agree, that’s”
him: “that’s what the whole silencing thing is about”
then i said something about evelyn garcia and he said he heard about that…so then i knew he’d been following some news..more than he was letting on. then he asked for the name of our blog and i told him.
there were over 80 people from the east coast who flew in for the wedding too. i didn’t talk to them as much because most of them were family many of whom..oh..the grooms mother and i got into a conversation at the rehearsal dinner. east coast..ex fbi …i’ve known her for years so we spoke more freely…she’s sick of congress kowtowing and all the money and what’s happened to the state department..and the stepfather i also know..ex federal gov from DC..i can’t say too much..completely disgusted.
anyway, it was the benign non political scientist and his wife i suppose that surprised me the most. israel was very much on their radar..and it wasn’t before.
gotta go check the church divestment news…exciting.
Oh – for some reason I thought you lived in the East Bay. I used to live on Whidbey Island for many years off of Langley. Miss the area. Don’t miss the weather.
C&D, i do live in the bay area, i am just visiting seattle right now. came up for the wedding and some other business. i know langley..well actually.
we possible know some of the same people.
Thanks Annie. Great stuff.
Oh, shoot, Annie. I wish you did live in Seattle. :)
i’m here now linda. write me ( annie at mondoweiss dot net) and maybe we can visit.
yep annie these type of conversations have been going on for decades…Know folks all over Ohio and elsewhere who have been meeting with Reps about this critical issue. The room is starting to get pleasantly crowded…more and more getting involved. Refreshing
Thanks, Annie. Interesting story.
then i said something about evelyn garcia and he said he heard about that…so then i knew he’d been following some news..more than he was letting on.
He’s probably already a secret Mondoweiss reader.
He’s probably already a secret Mondoweiss reader.
no definitely not but he was very interested and i spelled out the name for him. when my friend gets back from his honeymoon i’m going to get this persons email and send him a link. i think it is more likely he read about evelyn on a rightwing site.
“Don’t miss the weather.”
I’ve always thought the weather here was just right, if a tad too moist. But I learned pretty early; live on a hill, even if you have to cling on to it by your fingernails. Don’t live down in a hole. And north-facing windows are very important.
There is a reason for why it is the suicide capital of the country.
oops sorry to duplicate. just contacted her
Further lip service to diversity in the DNC. Garcia is a Haitian-American. A sizable percentage of the major Democratic donors in South Florida may be retired Zionist Jews, but the majority of Democratic voters are not. The action of the DNC just gave Garcia name-recognition in a large field of candidates on the pages of the local paper. Who knows whether that will translate to a plus or minus for Garcia in the primary?
” She said the private emails had been released “by someone I believed was my friend.” ”
Well, there we go. For what other topic do you have to make absolutely sure you trust the person you’re talking to before engaging about it? What kind of totalitarian state of affair are we in? This is appalling but that’s the world we’re living in.
How can a private email have political potency? My god this is bad. What a shame she had to renege on this. Couldn’t she see she was toast? She might as well have left the DNC with her head high.
“Well, there we go. For what other topic do you have to make absolutely sure you trust the person you’re talking to before engaging about it? What kind of totalitarian state of affair are we in? This is appalling but that’s the world we’re living in.”
‘Today a man dares confide his thoughts only to his wife, at night, with the sheets pulled up over his head, in a whisper…’
Or something like that. And it is getting bad. Not here, but on another site, where the conversation is somewhat more…frivolous, I sometimes find myself deleting remarks that might get picked up on someone’s radar.
Big Brother is out there. And he needs more cases, or he won’t be able to get his appropriation renewed. The war against terror goes on, and you want to be careful you don’t inadvertently volunteer to be the next star in a play. You won’t be the one writing the script.
“Well, there we go. For what other topic do you have to make absolutely sure you trust the person you’re talking to before engaging about it?”
Yes some topics just cut too deep. And some people will have their scrap of…whoops… pound of flesh.
Diversity has grown in that part of Florida.
Still more proof that the Israel Lobby has become the largest Fifth Column in US history. What other country has ever exercised such power over our politicians?
The Lobby is playing with fire. More and more people are getting crossways with Zionists of one stripe or another and they’re paying with their jobs, careers, livelihoods. When this levee breaks all manor of people will come forward with stories about everything that they were forbidden from saying or doing in their careers as journalists, academics or politicians because of Israel Lobby pressure. Others will tell of what they said or did to get them fired or that resulted in their resignations. Losing a career goes well beyond being pressured, bullied and threatened, which is bad enough. Losing one’s career as a result of Israel firster pressure means losing hopes and dreams and the capacity to pay one’s bills. Resentments are building and growing…
The Lobby is playing with fire.”…dbroncos
Yea they are. Cause people like me are ready to set them on fire.
The only difference between me and any average American of any class in America is I have learned more about Israel and I/P. So take my attitude and multipy it by 100 million and you have a good idea of how America is going to react when that final Israel straw is dropped and it is all hanging out.
If not literally, then politically, Israel First Washington will be burned to the ground.
there are solid reasons for the anger towards the I lobby.
“Note that a Jewish party chair interpreted these criticisms as anti-Semitic, and the offending official then accepted that charge.”
That ‘Jewish party chair’, a “mediocre intellect” to quote Hostage’s link to Herzl’s description, is too stupid to know the consequence of what he or she did. This is 2012.
“Note that a Jewish party chair interpreted these criticisms as anti-Semitic, and the offending official then accepted that charge.”
Now, where have we seen that happen before? If only my memory was better…
>> “The continued Israeli occupation of Palestine is ugly on moral, ethical, religious and legal grounds,” Garcia said in an email dated July 26, 2011. “Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust and it is time that this guilt trip was taken off their backs…. And I deeply resent U.S. taxpayer funds being used to continue Israeli aggression.”
It’s amazing – and disturbing – that Ms. Garcia should have felt it necessary to apologize for telling the unvarnished truth.
Anybody who knows anything at all about ME politics will understand that Ms. Garcia just don’t get it. She don’t see that Israel is the only democratic country in the ME and as such it deserves America’s blood and money.
Here is a May, 1993 quote from Ariel Sharon that explains Israeli democracy. I think this statement was made before his lights went out, but I’m not sure:
“The terms ‘democracy’ or ‘democratic’ are totally absent from the Declaration of Independence. This is not an accident. The intention of Zionism was not to bring democracy, needless to say. It was solely motivated by the creation in Eretz-Isrel of a Jewish state belonging to all the Jewish people and to the Jewish people alone. This is why any Jew of the Diaspora has the right to immigrate to Israel and to become a citizen of Israel.”
Ariel had a point. Democracy will always be a twisted concept in any religious state, which was a point many of the American fondling fathers, particularly Jefferson, much to his credit, saw clearly. Here’s the 1st paragraph of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, read by Ben-Guiron on May14.1948:
1. Eretz Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.
You can just imagine what follows. IMO, it is a sacrilege — and maybe trademark infringement — for the Israelis to desecrate the US Declaration of Independence by stealing that name for this racist, Zionist, apartheid document. It’s not a declaration of independence; it’s a declaration of ever-lasting war against and subjugation of the Palestinians.
Funny thing, but I don’t see a link here to the site that actually released Garcia’s Emails. I musta’ missed it w/ all the comments. Here it is again: link to bizpacreview.com
BizPac Review is a a right wingnut site run by a Tea Party hit man called Jack Furnari. If you read all of Garcia’s Emails, you get a picture of a woman who is very passionate about ending Israeli apartheid. Wish she were running for the US House.
And if you read the comments on the Furnari blog, you’ll get an idea how really scary these wacked-out Flordia tea baggers are.