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‘Forward’ columnist says ‘divided’ loyalty is as American as cherry pie

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Last week the Israeli Foreign Ministry was preparing to distribute a poll to American Jews asking them to which country they would feel allegiance during a crisis, Israel or the U.S., when Prime Minister Netanyahu stuffed the survey out of concern that it would raise an “explosive” issue (as Haaretz put it). In response, Hillel Halkin stands up at the Forward for dual loyalty on the part of Jewish Zionists. “Why American Jews Shouldn’t Be Afraid to Put Israel First.”

And MJ Rosenberg got in trouble for talking about Israel Firsters?

I believe that Louis Brandeis made a similar argument about Americans’ diverse cultural affinities in seeking to remove the dual-loyalty stigma from Zionists 100 years ago, after he was converted to Zionism.

The poll sought to determine, among other things, which country American Jews would side with in case of a serious confrontation between Israel and the United States. As such, it was rightly criticized for conjuring up the specter of “dual loyalty” that Jews in America and elsewhere have been accused of by their enemies. There’s certainly no need to provide extra grist for the anti-Semitic mill. Yet it’s also time to stop pretending that the loyalties of some American Jews aren’t divided between Israel and America. Of course they are. There’s just nothing wrong with it — nor is there anything uniquely Jewish about this. You’ll find plenty of similar cases in other places.

The truth is that any American Jew who doesn’t care as much about a Jewish state as he or she does about the United States can’t be very identified with the Jewish people. Suppose vital American and Israeli interests were to clash. What would it mean for a Jew to say: ”I don’t give a damn what’s best for Israel. All that matters to me is what’s best for America”? What kind of Jew would that be? How deep could his or her Jewishness be said to go?

But one could ask a similar question about tens of millions of other Americans. Do Cuban Americans who have pressed for decades for harsh American policies toward Communist Cuba ask whether these are really in America’s interest? It’s enough for them to tell themselves that they’re in Cuba’s interest. Do Mexican Americans favor a relaxation of immigration laws because they think America’s general public will benefit? What they think, you can be sure, is that other Mexicans will benefit — and why shouldn’t they want them to?

It is excellent that the Forward has run this. It is akin to Eric Alterman’s frank declaration at the 92d Street Y that he has dual loyalty (not going in for Halkin’s euphemism, divided). It’s plainly the case that many American Jews would choose Israel’s interest over the U.S.’s if the two countries clashed.

While Halkin regards that choice as just fine, the Forward opens the door on those who may disagree– citing the regressive Cuban example, or the Irish-American support for a revolutionary movement back where they came from. Or: Did the neoconservatives support the Iraq war because it was in Israel’s interest? Joe Klein said they exhibited “divided loyalties” in doing so.

Myself I believe in the honorable principle of Doykeit, hereness in the Polish Yiddish formulation of the 1900s. Yes it worked out badly for the Polish Jews, but it remains the ideal of a democratic polity.

Speaking of which, my people came from Poland and Rumania and Russia, not from the Middle East. Yet to be concerned for Israel, a place most American Jews have never laid eyes on, is in Halkin’s view to “be identified with the Jewish people.” This is the knot at the bottom of Jewish identity in our times. Marc Ellis would say that identification with the Jewish people means concern for Palestinian conditions.

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“Most Americans support a Jewish state in principal, and have no trouble with an America committed to Israel’s security.”

And pray tell:
what is a “Jewish state”? Or a “Jewish state in principal”?
what’s the official definition of these terms?
what are Israel’s security needs????
really, what security needs does Israel have??
what is America’s commitment?
Americans have no problem sending Israel 3.5 billion dollars in military aid each
year????….Oh, that’s not very well known, is it? Would that be a problem?

Most Americans have no clue about Israel’s needs/”needs”
Most Americans have no clue about Israel/the Israeli government;
it’s a democracy, isn’t it? not really?
there are equal rights, right? oh, different laws for Jews and non-Jews, really?
there’s more? what? the tip of the iceberg?
Please, you’re spoiling the image….. we’d rather not know!

So admitting that there is a dual loyalty and Israel wins out. Now trying to make it perfectly acceptable. Not going to work

Prof Cole has a great post up
http://www.juancole.com/2013/11/israelis-colonies-palestinian.html#comment-224744

If a really, really SERIOUS issue came up in the USA (such as FAIR TAXATION for BILLIONAIRES, a WEALTH TAX, or just a FAIR ESTATE TAX), would the Adelsons and others quickly move off to Israel? We know they sometimes do that when they are threatened with criminal prosecution.

Is paying a fair tax (to support or benefit all those pesky little folk out there, a concept presumably at odds with the TRUE RELIGION of really-really-rich folks) likely to send the Jews among them packing to Israel?

The core premise of The Forward piece is an offensive falicy:

The truth is that any American Jew who doesn’t care as much about a Jewish state as he or she does about the United States can’t be very identified with the Jewish people.

The other examples of Cuban-Americans and Mexican-Americans are false comparisons on many levels.

And since when are American citizens, who happen to be Jewish, Israeli-Americans?

Weiss: “Yet to be concerned for Israel, a place most American Jews have never laid eyes on, is in Halkin’s view to “be identified with the Jewish people.” This is the knot at the bottom of Jewish identity in our times. Marc Ellis would say that identification with the Jewish people means concern for Palestinian conditions.”

I really wonder, if push came to shove (as if USA had a loyalty oath which made it clear that support for Israel — or maybe for ANY country other than the USA — was contrary to the oath) — would most Jews refuse to sign it?

I came from a slice of Jewish Community (or from a large family, if that is a better term) that never to my knowledge gave much of a thought to Israel. Or experienced much antisemitism on these shores. There was nothing tentative about the American-ness of this family (that I ever noticed).

If there were a rift between Israel and the USA, how many FOI would elect to remain here, perhaps for safety or wealth, perhaps with some dim view of being more use to Israel here than there? And how many would see the ridiculousness of the old idea that Israel would be a safe-haven for Jews in the event that the USA got too hot for Jews? especially at a time when it was Israel and not the USA that was getting too hot for Jews?