Israel is a ‘corpse’ — Hedges on Blumenthal’s ‘Goliath’

Max Blumenthal

Max Blumenthal

Yesterday Max Blumenthal’s new book on Israel, Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel, got the emphatic endorsement of two influential journalists, Chris Hedges and Andrew Sullivan.

First, here’s Hedges at Truthdig, hammer and tongs in an inspiring Old Testament manner: Zionism is a racist ideology, Israel is poisoned by the psychosis of war, and liberal American Jews deny this so as to fetishize the myth and themselves, but Blumenthal reveals the truth, Israel is a corpse.

Israel has been poisoned by the psychosis of permanent war. It has been morally bankrupted by the sanctification of victimhood, which it uses to justify an occupation that rivals the brutality and racism of apartheid South Africa. Its democracy—which was always exclusively for Jews—has been hijacked by extremists who are pushing the country toward fascism. Many of Israel’s most enlightened and educated citizens—1 million of them—have left the country. Its most courageous human rights campaigners, intellectuals and journalists—Israeli and Palestinian—are subject to constant state surveillance, arbitrary arrests and government-run smear campaigns. Its educational system, starting in primary school, has become an indoctrination machine for the military…

And yet, the hard truths about Israel remain largely unspoken. Liberal supporters of Israel decry its excesses. They wring their hands over the tragic necessity of airstrikes on Gaza or Lebanon or the demolition of Palestinian homes. They assure us that they respect human rights and want peace. But they react in inchoate fury when the reality of Israel is held up before them. This reality implodes the myth of the Jewish state…. Liberal Jewish critics inside and outside Israel, however, desperately need the myth, not only to fetishize Israel but also to fetishize themselves. Strike at the myth and you unleash a savage vitriol, which in its fury exposes the self-adulation and latent racism that lie at the core of modern Zionism.

There are very few intellectuals or writers who have the tenacity and courage to confront this reality. This is what makes Max Blumenthal’s “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel” one of the most fearless and honest books ever written about Israel. Blumenthal burrows deep into the dark heart of Israel. The American journalist binds himself to the beleaguered and shunned activists, radical journalists and human rights campaigners who are the conscience of the nation, as well as Palestinian families in the West Bank struggling in vain to hold back Israel’s ceaseless theft of their land. Blumenthal, in chapter after chapter, methodically rips down the facade. And what he exposes, in the end, is a corpse.

I spent seven years in the Middle East as a correspondent, including months in Gaza and the West Bank. I lived for two years in Jerusalem. Many of the closest friends I made during my two decades overseas are Israeli. Most of them are among the Israeli outcasts that Blumenthal writes about, men and women whose innate decency and courage he honors throughout his book. They are those who, unlike the Israeli leadership and a population inculcated with racial hatred, sincerely want to end occupation, restore the rule of law and banish an ideology that creates moral hierarchies with Arabs hovering at the level of animal as Jews—especially Jews of European descent—are elevated to the status of demigods. It is a measure of Blumenthal’s astuteness as a reporter that he viewed Israel through the eyes of these outcasts, as well as the Palestinians, and stood with them as they were arrested, tear-gassed and fired upon by Israeli soldiers. There is no other honest way to tell the story about Israel. And this is a very honest book.

And here is Andrew Sullivan, much more engaged by the swordplay between Blumenthal and Eric Alterman, and saying that Alterman committed a lazy hatchet job. But Sullivan lands where it matters, on Blumenthal’s excellent encounter with David Grossman, and all that demonstrated about the flaccidity of Zionist ideals:

one reason to pick [Goliath] up is the lazy hatchet job performed on it by one of the more egregiously nasty writers in America, Eric Alterman. Alterman’s critique can be read here, titled “The ‘I Hate Israel’ Handbook”, and here. I urge you to read both…. The reason I urge you to read it all is because it’s essential background for Blumenthal’s response. It’s always a joy to see a smear artist exposed, trick by trick, con by con – and Max is relentless. To wit:

‘Alterman carps about the titles of several chapters in my book, claiming they were “titled to imply an equivalence between Israel and Nazi Germany.” He did not bother address the substance of the chapters, which explains the titles. The chapter titled, “How To Kill 51-jsDj2gPL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_Goyim and Influence People” detailed a Jerusalem conference of prominent state-funded Israeli rabbis who had gathered to defend the publication of Torat Ha’Melech, a book published by their rabbinical colleagues that the Israeli paper Maariv described as “230 pages on the laws concerning the killing of non-Jews, a kind of guidebook for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew.” (Among the book’s lowlights: “There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us…”)’My chapters titled “The Night of Broken Glass” and “The Concentration Camp” detail the officially sanctioned campaign of racist incitement and violence against Israel’s population of non-Jewish African asylum seekers. The former chapter described events leading up to the night of May 23, 2012, when, after an anti-African rally headlined by leading officials from the ruling Likud Party, in which Africans were described from the stage as “a cancer,” hundreds of Jewish Israelis rampaged through African-inhabited areas of South Tel Aviv, attacking their homes and cars and literally smashing the glass of their storefront windows. “I am as afraid to live in the Israel of 2012 as any right-minded German should have been in 1938,” Aliyana Traison, the deputy editor of Haaretz, wrote at the time.’

[Sullivan again] For good measure, Alterman concedes that the book is “mostly technically accurate.” I hate the bullying tactics of those suppressing a discussion of difficult subjects, so am glad to note that Blumenthal himself is not the only one shocked by the shoddiness of Alterman’s smear:

‘Other writers have already carefully deconstructed his tangled mess of factual errors and deceptive claims: Phan Nguyen, Corey Robin, Ali Gharib, Ira Glunts and Charles Manekin.’

I’d particularly recommend Corey Robin’s dissection of Alterman’s account of Blumenthal’s conversation with David Grossman, the legendary liberal Zionist. It’s both a thorough debunking of Alterman but also a disturbing revelation about what has happened to Israel, and why it matters.

About Annie Robbins and Phil Weiss

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani
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  1. pabelmont says:

    If Israelis decry (the arrival of black African asylum seekers as) “a cancer” and if (as I suppose) “a cancer” is something that starts small and grows without limit and to the detriment and ultimately the death of its environment — then Israelis should surely know “a cancer” when they see another one.

    Israel, too, started off small. And for those willing to watch and describe what they see, the malignant spread of Israel into Palestine (chiefly, today, via West Bank settlement growth) is precisely cancerous.

  2. Krauss says:

    I’m not surprised at all.

    Sullivan has long been one of the finest and most indepedent journalists ever.
    Hedges is less of an indepedent than an independent progressive, more than a slight difference, but the red thread is all the time: whenever you have someone who is less interested in titles or opportunism, they write truthfully about Zionism and Max’s book is such a book.

    I’ve finished reading it again. I’m still reeling from the first time. It will become more important as time goes on. It’s hard to find as comprehensive a book on Israel, even if you disagree with his conclusions, the scale of the reporting is unbeliveable – and shocking when you see all the uncovered and unvarnished racism.

    • ToivoS says:

      Sullivan has long been one of the finest and most indepedent journalists ever.

      Are you serious? He was a very strong supporter of the US invasion of Iraq after 911. His two notable columns were his advocacy of using nuclear weapons against resisting Muslims and his description of the antiwar movement as a fifth column in America. (The latter accusation is explicitly a charge of treason that is federal crime by a law passed during WWI to suppress the antiwar people of that era.)

      He has apologized for those outbursts and come to regret his support for the Iraq war so he can be accepted back into polite society. But I would never think of him as fine.

  3. asherpat says:

    If Israel is such a “corpse”, why does an OpEd in a popular Egyptian paper openly writes:

    “…Tel Aviv is celebrating with technical pioneers all around the world and the opportunity will be made ​​available for the winners of a competition of the founders of start-up companies from around the world to meet with companies and technology experts and founders of start-up companies, designers, artists, scientists, investors and promoters of culture from Israel and abroad…innovators from Britain, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, France, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Latvia, India, China, Korea, Mexico and Colombia will be guests in Israel to gain experience of the [start-up] eco-system in Tel Aviv

    …while the Arabs are mired in the cycle of violence and infighting…the winners of this year’s Nobel Prize in chemistry are all Jews and two of them are of Israeli origin, and in physics the Belgian winner was also Jewish! Meaning that four out of five chemistry and physics Nobel winners are Jews, who Muslim clerics every Friday call descendants of apes and pigs!

    [Jews] chose progress and we chose underdevelopment, they chose creativity in chemistry equations and theories of physics, we chose creativity in the fatwas of “jihad marriage.”

    See for yourself (though need to translate): link to alwafd.org

    • Cliff says:

      I wonder if you’d say Nazi Germany was choosing progress and blah blah, while Jews were dying in concentration camps?

      Psychopaths like you remind me of Patrick Bateman in this scene from American Psycho:

      You decontextualize your strengths as well as the weaknesses of your opponents.

      I remember a time when a Zionist troll named ‘yonira’ mocked the Palestinians in Gaza for painting stripes on a horse to make it look like a Zebra.

      They were doing this to cheer up the kids who had never seen a Zebra before.

      The day this story was reported, an Israeli had won the Nobel I think. And so ‘yonira’ mocked the Palestinians by saying while they (the Palestinians) were painting stripes on a donkey, Israelis were winning Nobel Prizes.

      I think this should be a bannable offense. It is perhaps one of the more shameful dehumanizing things you can say about a group of people – and you can only do it without context.

      The notion that Israel is a ‘corpse’ has nothing to do with it’s technological achievements. It has to do with it’s ‘soul’ – the racism, discrimination, constant war-mongering, etc.

      So what does the Zionist imbecile, asherpat say in response? He says Israel is inventing stuff and making tons of money. Great!

      But totally missing the point. Not only that though – he says all of that crap about achievement and then mocks the suffering and conflict in the Arab countries (without context – as if they kill each other and blah blah for the fun of it).

      I think asherpat and monsters like him, only confirm that Israel is indeed a ‘corpse’.

    • lysias says:

      In 1933, 1 of 5 Nobel laureates were Germans, in 1932 1 of 5, in 1931 3 of 5, in 1930 1 of 5, in 1929 2 of 7, in 1928 1 of 4, in 1927 2 of 7, in 1926 1 of 5, in 1925 2 of 6. (I have not included a few Austrians who also won Nobel Prizes during this period.)

    • xanadou says:

      Educated Israeli Jews with a conscience are leaving Israel in steadily growing numbers. The two winners of the Nobel prize in chemistry did just that quite that some time ago.

      Conflating a Muslim cleric with scientists is bad reasoning, indicative of the missing grasp of basic rules of logic, as well as unquestioning submission to Israeli indoctrination of the masses, once synonymous with the now defunct nazi Germany and the USSR.

      The better example would have been to compare said cleric to the fanatical settlers and the ultraOrthodox Jewish clergy. Their invectives are in fierce, and winning, competition with the Muslim fanatics. The ultra Orthodox are further fortified with guns, spittle and faeces aimed at Palestinians, Muslims, Christians AND Jews with a brain, heart and functioning brain. Nor do the Muslim clerics release the contents of sewers onto land that is producing food. Or destroying olive trees. Or killing children on their way to school. Or using human shields. Or invading sovereign countries because they are, for now, assured of impunity. Or imprisoning people on phony charges. To list a few examples.

    • Shmuel says:

      (though need to translate)

      Or we could just lift the translation from EoZ, like you did.

      • Walid says:

        Asherpat should look closer at the magazine from which the article was lifted. It’s the official organ of the Wafd Party of Egypt whose electoral platform in 2014 will be to reconsider the treaty with Israel. He should also look into the other Wafd unpleasantries about what was said by the party to the Washington Times in 2011 about the holocaust and Ann Frank.

        There’s evidently a subtle message in that I-love-Israel-article but I don’t think it’s worth wasting any more time on it.

    • American says:

      asherpat says:
      November 5, 2013 at 1:34 pm
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      If Israel is such a “corpse”, why does an OpEd in a popular Egyptian paper openly writes:>>>>>>

      You should be wondering where this sudden Egyptian PR for Israel is coming from and who is behind it and why—–contrary to the old saying, you definitely should l0ok gift horses in the mouth.
      You zio supremist are always bouncing between your paranoia and your grandiose egotism—-why you cant think straight—– when those mental defects operate in tandem.

    • Bandolero says:

      A “popular Egyptian paper”? Some excerpts from Wikipedia on Al Wafd:

      Circulation 9,000 – 10,000 (2009)

      Al-Wafd (Arabic: الوفد‎) is the daily newspaper published by the Wafd (‘Delegation’) party in Giza, Egypt. As the house organ of the liberal-democratic neo-Wafd party, the paper is considered an opposition paper, although both party and paper have oscillated between support and opposition for the regime. … On 4 September 2013, the paper portrayed the US President Barack Obama as Satan due to his support for opposition forces in Syria. The paper also argued that Obama is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

      Source: link to en.wikipedia.org

      Barack Obama is Satan and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood? Al Wafd could really be just one more zionist hasbara smear paper.

      link to patdollard.com

    • tree says:

      asherpat,

      See for yourself (though need to translate): link to alwafd.org

      And yet you quoted from it in English. Are you trying to make us believe you read Arabic? Why not link to it in English from the Elder of Ziyon site where you found it?
      Why the need for subterfuge to hide the source you copied?

  4. EUR1069 says:

    I don’t know about the “corpse”, but one thing is clear: Israel won’t survive another 65 years in its present form.

    • ivri says:

      “Israel won`t survive another 65 years in its present form”
      That`s possible, indeed, likely. Israel is a new creation and didn`t reach equilibrium neither outside – the relations with Arab countries are still in flux – nor inside. The final political configuration with Palestinians, the West-Bank and Jordan (the other semi-Palestine) is still undetermined. Israel as a young country is a project in the making and it clearly bears little semblance to what it was 65 years ago with less than 1 million inhabitants, a far less advanced economy, an amateur army and much narrower area under its control. The Arab world has changed a lot too, which is also part of the Israeli-existence equation.

      • EUR1069 says:

        “Israel as a young country is a project in the making ..”

        I certainly agree with the “in the making” part. Problem is:
        1. In the world of nation-states you can’t have a late start: things will invariably go wrong, as they certainly have – you can pretend you are a country but you always will be a Frankenstein state known for scaring & terrorizing others.
        2. Artificial “states” mandated into existence by august international bodies in places where no one wants them, won’t survive in the long run, the 4th largest army, 300+ nukes or the bankrolling by the U.S. Treasure notwithstanding.
        3. I would hesitate to call Israel a “country” – legit countries have set borders & constitutions & recognition & at least SOME respect by their neighbors. Israel has none of those, save diplomatic relations with Egypt & Jordan bought with our tax dollars. It is an ongoing Zionist Geopolitical Experiment, universally detested, increasingly ostracized, on its last legs in the PR department & on its only lifeline from the U.S.
        4. The U.S. money & Washington’s political will to babysit the ZGE will dry up within a generation or two – make it 65 years if you want.

      • pabelmont says:

        ivri, If Jordan is another semi-Palestine, is the USA (or NYC) a semi-Israel? Miami? California? Hollywood? And with so many semi-Israels (if such they are to be considered) filled with happy Jewish people who have no intention of emigrating to Israel-itself, why does the world (or anyone in it) we need Israel-itself, the great Palestinophage?

      • Cliff says:

        Hey irvi,

        Is it kosher to say the Jews have NYC so f**k Zionism?

        I mean, this analogy isn’t quite analogous – f**k Zionism for all sorts of legitimate reasons.

        But on this point – you characterize Jordan as a ‘semi-Palestine’.

        So what does that make the Mandate of Palestine or Mandate Palestine or Historic Palestine?

        Did the Palestinian people spontaneously appear into existence as refugees, terrorists, etc.?

    • asherpat says:

      EUR1069, thank you for believing in us for at least 120 years in total!

      • EUR1069 says:

        asherpat, you’re welcome. That’s 130 tho. Math skills! Nobel prizes & all that :)

        • EUR1069: I think that asherpat, when wrote 120, refer to the Jewish blessing “Ad 120″ meaning “may God prolong your life up to one hundred and twenty years”. This blessing is originated from the book of Genesis 6, 1-3:

          “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives, whomsoever they chose. And the LORD said: ‘My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for that he also is flesh; therefore shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.”

          The Iraqi Jews have other blessing “Izid Aleik Ashar Marat”, meaning God will multiply your…ten times”, so let me bless the state of Israel with this charming blessing, Ad 1200 years!!

        • EUR1069 says:

          Oh, the OT numerology… I don’t have enough free head space for that, sorry.

  5. Cliff says:

    Politically, Sullivan kind of started out as Hitchens ended.

  6. lysias says:

    Glenn Greenwald has called attention to Sullivan’s piece in a tweet.

  7. David Samel says:

    Hedges himself penned the most horrifying description of events he witnessed in Gaza in 2001 – link to no2wars.wordpress.com

    It is still. The camp waits, as if holding its breath. And then, out of the dry furnace air, a disembodied voice crackles over a loudspeaker.

    ‘Come on, dogs,’ the voice booms in Arabic. ‘Where are all the dogs of Khan Younis? Come! Come!’

    I stand up. I walk outside the hut. The invective continues to spew: ‘Son of a bitch!’ ‘Son of a Whore!…’

    The boys dart in small packs up the sloping dunes to the electric fence that separates the camp from the Jewish settlement. They lob rocks toward two armored jeeps parked on top of the dune and mounted with loudspeakers. Three ambulances line the road below the dunes in anticipation of what is to come.

    A percussion grenade explodes. The boys, most no more than ten or eleven years old, scatter, running clumsily across the heavy sand. They descend out of sight behind a sandbank in front of me. There are no sounds of gunfire. The soldiers shoot with silencers. The bullets from the M-16 rifles tumble end over end through the children’s slight bodies. Later, in the hospital, I will see the destruction: the stomachs ripped out, the gaping holes in limbs and torsos.

    Yesterday at this spot the Israelis shot eight young men, six of whom were under the age of eighteen. One was twelve. This afternoon they kill an eleven-year-old boy, Ali Murad, and seriously wound four more, three of whom are under eighteen. Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered – death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights and watched them crumple onto the pavement in Sarajevo – but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport.

    • eljay says:

      >> Hedges himself penned the most horrifying description of events he witnessed in Gaza in 2001 …

      What would a simple potato seller say about something like this?! I can only imagine…

      Bah! Israel’s army is the most moral army in the world! No other army would be so gentle with those children! And, anyway, the Palestinians fire rockets at our colonies! Let us condemn all evil equally and live happily together!

      [Sotto voce:] But please let me keep my supremacist “Jewish State” of (Greater) Israel.

      • @eljay: Say what you want to say, you love this potato seller!!

        • eljay says:

          >> @eljay: Say what you want to say, you love this potato seller!!

          Well, I can’t say that I love you, and I don’t know you well enough to hate you.

          But you’ve made it very clear that you’re a Zio-supremacist, so I will say that I do not and cannot respect you.

        • Taxi says:

          Mehane,
          You’re a deluded egoist. Land thief. With a biblical (potato) chip on your shoulders.

        • @Taxi: Tell me,please, is Max’s book “Goliath” the subject of this post or Mahane? Why do you insist to refer to me even I don’t participate in the thread?

        • Taxi says:

          Try the concept of ‘freedom of speech’, mahane.

          Also try reading upthread, look for your comment on THIS threat, and you’ll see that you have INDEED “participated” in this thread.

          Be careful: zionism causes memory loss, pathological denialism, and the onset of potatoism.

        • @taxi: The comments are published in this site in different times. Some after 5 minutes, others after 2-3 days and several are deleted.

          “Try the concept of ‘freedom of speech’, mahane”
          Certainly not in this site.

          “Be careful: zionism causes memory loss, pathological denialism, and the onset of potatoism.”
          I wonder whether a similar comment by pro-Israeli, in which the word “Zionism” is replaced by “Pro-Palestinian”, would be published in this site. From my personal experience, I guess it wouldn’t.

        • Taxi says:

          Mahane,

          You poor victim.

          My question is: are you the forgiving or the vengeful kind?

        • Bumblebye says:

          Mahane
          I think you need to wrap your head around the fact that being “Pro-Palestinian” does not entail racism, ethnocentrism, dispossession, cruelty, etc. It *does* entail opposition to zionism, which *is* a racist political creed, and in its practice, has led to the dispossession of hundreds of thousands of people, the theft of their land, property , livelihoods AND many lives. And in fact is an ONGOING, continuous Nakba. As someone who claims to live/work in Jerusalem, you can see evidence all around you of the beginning and the daily continuation of your precious zionism as it plans to expel yet more and ever more of the city’s indigenous population.

        • Bumblebye:
          “As someone who claims to live/work in Jerusalem, you can see evidence all around you of the…”

          As someone who live/work in Jerusalem, I can see evidence all around me of Palestinians living in this city, working in all Jerusalem’s institutions like hospitals, university, municipality institutions etc. (just visit Hadassah Mount Scopus). I see every day many Palestinians students (Yes, you can recognize students) in buses and trains crossing the Jaffa road in their way to the University campuses or colleges. I see them in the market, in my neighborhood, in Jaffa’s coffee shops and in the malls and, actually, they are part of this city. And yes, many of them don’t want to see the city divided again. I see the reality but you see only delusions like ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem Palestinians. Salamat!!!

        • I see the reality but you see only delusions like ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem Palestinians.

          you’re engaging in nakba denial. link to mondoweiss.net

          The “judaization” of Jerusalem and the West Bank continues apace, despite the so-called “peace process.” This week the Israeli government demolished a large apartment block in Beit Hanina, bringing the total number of Palestinian structures demolished in East Jerusalem in 2013 to almost 100; about 400 people displaced from their homes (figures from ICAHD, OCHA, HRW and human rights groups).

          At the same time that it announced the construction of yet another 1500 housing units in the illegal East Jerusalem settlement of Ramat Shlomo – and another 3500 in the West Bank –the Israeli government issued demolition orders for 2000 housing units in the nearby area of Ras al-Kahmis and the Shuafat refugee camp.

          If the demolition of 2000 housing units of Ras al-Kahmis/Shuafat are carried out, 15,000 Palestinian residents will lose their homes. No less significant in the view of the Israeli government, they will be forced out of Jerusalem and will lose their right to live, work, pray and even enter the city. Demolitions of Palestinian homes lay at the very heart of Israel’s attempt to “judaize” Jerusalem and the West Bank, just as it does inside Israel as well. The process graphically illustrates how dry, bureaucratic urban policies can be used as effective mechanisms of repression.

          the israeli gov systematically is changing the demographics of jerusalem.

          watch your allegations. nakba denial is a banning offense here. that’s a warning, i will formally complain if you continue to deny israel is systematically ethnically cleansing palestinians out of jerusalem. as far as i am concerned, if you care to debate whether that is occurring go to another site!

          try reddit! link to reddit.com

          Two days ago, a news report was submitted to WorldNews but The Zionist Hasbara brigade tricked a large part of reddit readers into thinking it was a ‘Fake Story’. It’s true, through and through, says Jeff Halper, the Director of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD). (mondoweiss.net)

          link to reddit.com

          “appears to be misleading” ha!

        • @Annie: In the last days, I felt I would receive such warning since many of my comments were deleted (and I am not complaining!!) although they were neutral and without nothing special. I felt you are waiting to the first opportunity to warn me. While you deleted my comments, you published the very ugly personal attack comments written by same members many times, several of them in threads that I didn’t even participate.

          I always thought that the Nakba is the event took place in 1948-9, now I learn that any act of house demolishing is regarded by you as Nakba. I already wrote many times my opinion about the illegal house demolitions.

          Waiting your decision. Any one will be welcomed.

        • the nakba is ongoing, please educate yourself link to ongoingnakba.org

          we don’t debate the nakba here, that’s non-negotiable.

          I felt you are waiting to the first opportunity to warn me. While you deleted my comments

          i am not waiting for anything. it becomes infuriating hearing your denials of a reality going (the judaization of palestine) and since you appear to be completely clueless as to the fact when these places are demolished (and this includes bedioun villages in the negev) and what replaces them is jewish settlements. go read the definition of the crime of ethnic cleansing, educate yourself.

          and second, i am a busy person and i am not the one making all decisions on every single comment. there are others here deleting your comments too, probably for reasons as you yourself stated “neutral and without nothing..”)

          and i do not have the power to ban you, so it’s not my decision. as i mentioned as far as i am concerned , iow, this is my personal opinion but i will lobby for it if you keep insisting palestinians are not being systematically pushed off their land. it’s a lie.

    • Hedges is clearly an anti-Semite. He’s seen what he wasn’t supposed to see.

  8. Shingo says:

    Liberal Jewish critics inside and outside Israel, however, desperately need the myth, not only to fetishize Israel but also to fetishize themselves. Strike at the myth and you unleash a savage vitriol, which in its fury exposes the self-adulation and latent racism that lie at the core of modern Zionism.

    What a superb summation!!

    • seafoid says:

      “Blumenthal cites a survey of Jewish Israeli attitudes on the Gaza bombing, known as Operation Cast Lead. The survey, by Daniel Bar-Tal, a political psychologist from Tel Aviv University, concluded that the public’s “consciousness is characterized by a sense of victimization, a siege mentality, blind patriotism, belligerence, self-righteousness, dehumanization of the Palestinians, and insensitivity to their suffering.” Bar-Tal tells Blumenthal “these attitudes are the product of indoctrination.” ”

      But it’s a jewish democracy!

    • American says:

      Yes , Max is brilliant ….and brave……and accurate.
      The self adulation brought on by the myths they created about themselves and the vitriol toward all others is what I have always seen in the zionist cult. It will be destroyed or self destruct, one way or another—-thats how all fanatical cults eventually end.
      Remains to be seen what the final cause of it’s demise will be.

      • seafoid says:

        Zionism takes too much effort. It’s not natural. They have to CONCENTRATE so much. It’s like the opposite of folk music. Oh , I forgot. There is no Zionist folk music.

    • David Samel says:

      Shingo, that excerpt is a very apt description of MJ Rosenberg’s outburst against Ali Abunimah.

    • Bandolero says:

      Strike at the myth and you unleash a savage vitriol, which in its fury exposes the self-adulation and latent racism that lie at the core of modern Zionism.

      I disagree with the idea that that’s a superb summation. I can’t see anything “latent” in zionist racism and I can’t neither see that it was not the core of ancient zionism, as opposed to “modern Zionism.”

      Take that away and the description would become realistic:

      Strike at the myth and you unleash a savage vitriol, which in its fury exposes the self-adulation and racism that lie at the core of zionism.

      Ah, and I would write zionism without a capital at the beginning.

  9. Kathleen says:

    Thanks for this Annie and Phil. Great to hear about Hedges and Sullivans endorsements. Put up a link over at Huff po on a thread about Israel will see if it makes it up. Just put up a few minutes ago. Will see if it makes it through. Some changes going on over there again

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    ok both of my recent comments just made it through over at Huff po. Linking to Mondoweiss and Juan Cole’s. I put two comments over there yesterday linking to Mondoweiss and I think Juan Cole’s and they did not make it up. Tracked here and I contacted their contact folks. Hope other folks try to link to Mondoweiss and other sites that share more substantive information about these issues at Huff Po. Lots of people go there to read. I do think I have a new alert on my comments over there after getting some information about the BDS opposing JNF activities in Denver up at Huff po a few weeks ago. Thanks for tolerating my tracking Huff Po with witnesses Mondo folks

  10. Kathleen says:

    These comments and links not passed through over at Huff Po…yet. Watching

    Iran Prepared To Call For Withdrawal Of Foreign Troops From Syria, Foreign Minister Javad Zarif Says

    link to huffingtonpost.com

    “cathleen

    Super User · 385 Fans
    A great website to go to to access even more detailed information about negotiations with Iran. Hillary and Flynt Mann Leverett were both officials in the Bush administration. Flynt quit the Bush administration before the invasion of Iraq because he was against the invasion. Many MSM outlets in the U.S. will not have the Leveretts on because they are an opposing and factual force against those pushing for special interest that are pushing hard for more unnecessary sanctions against Iran and a military strike on Iran. This is an important and informative website if you want to know more about that situation.

    Nuclear Negotiations and America’s Moment of Truth About Iran

    Posted on November 4th, 2013

    link to goingtotehran.com

    This is very much a relevant link to the post
    Due to the potentially sensitive nature of this article, your comment may take longer to appear publicly.
    cathleen

    Super User · 385 Fans
    Now if only the U.S. would pull the funding of money, arms etc for the Syrian rebels to help end this proxy war that would be something.

    How do folks feel about the I lobby trying to determine our foreign policy with Iran? This is substantive information about Iran. I tried to post this piece from Mondoweiss under another Iranian thread but did not make it up. Six years ago this was standard for the moderators at Huff Po. Not allowing more substantive information from the UN website etc to go up at Huff Po. Then a real honest opening at Huff Po over the last three or so years with more relevant information going up as links. But now it seems the I lobby may be closing down Huff Po’s information doors again. Let’s see..this is about Iran.

    The lobby grants Obama a grace period on Iran
    Annie Robbins and Phil Weiss on November 3, 2013
    link to mondoweiss.net
    Due to the potentially sensitive nature of this article, your comment may take longer to appear publicly.”

    • ritzl says:

      Kathleen, that’s “all” foreign troops, per Iran, via the article. Not “its” troops as the title implies and/or lets ride as an assumption. I think that is an important distinction.

      Iran seems to be calling, consistently now, for a more comprehensive take on the ME.

      Glad your cites got through.

      • Kathleen says:

        Two of my comments and links did not make it through yesterday that is why I went on alert. Along with that new alert that comes up when I make comments about Iran, Israel, Palestine and make links Up pops “Due to the potentially sensitive nature of this article, your comment may take longer to appear publicly” This is new. My comments and links have not taken this long to go up since over five years ago when these links often never made it through. Just wondering if there are particular people, links or topics being targeted again at that site. A few weeks ago I was able to get some links up to the Colorado Boycott,Divest, Sanction website with information about the protest taking place against Jewish National Fund. Wondering if a special interest group complained and my comments started being targeted? Contacted the Huff Po people about this while documenting everything I was putting up.

        Huff Po is a vehicle to get info out to more people. Have been doing so for years over there. Well as long as they have been allowing relevant and accurate information to go up over there about these topics

        • mcohen says:

          Kathleen says:
          November 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm

          “Huff Po is a vehicle to get info out to more people. ”

          hi Kathleen,i checked the site out and will fly the flag for you guys over there.
          viva palistina .,viva kabila.,

  11. Mike_Konrad says:

    Be honest here: all of you.

    Assuming all of Max Blumenthal’s complaints are right. I do NOT deny Israel has faults.

    But assuming all his and your complaints are right:

    Are you willing to see the only Jewish state on the planet dismantled to correct those faults?

    I am not saying what was/is done to the Palestinians is right; but I do not see dismantling Israel as the solution.

    I cannot go that far.

    • Are you willing to see the only Jewish state on the planet dismantled to correct those faults?

      I am not saying what was/is done to the Palestinians is right

      maybe not, but it sounds like you’re saying it was worth it, and worth sustaining that injustice for a jewish state. btw, “the one and only” is not a reason to sustain and expand an ethnic state at the expense of another people’s suffering.

    • Ellen says:

      Mike, that is the wrong question. You do not solve problems by breaking it.

      But if the problems are not resolved from within, it will self destruct in front of us.

      And to try and prevent self destruction, you have to first identify what IS happening. That is the purpose of Blumenthal’s book.

      Yet the gatekeepers of public opinion are throwing the book in the trash. This makes them complicit in what is happening in Israel and what will happen to both Palestinians and Israelis .

    • eljay says:

      >> Are you willing to see the only Jewish state on the planet dismantled to correct those faults?

      Israel has no right to exist either as a colonialist and expansionist state or as a supremacist “Jewish State”.

      Israel must withdraw to within its / Partition borders; honour its obligations under international law; and reform itself into a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israeli state of and for all of its citizens, equally.

      I have no problem with a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel existing within its / Partition borders.

    • seafoid says:

      “Are you willing to see the only Jewish state on the planet dismantled to correct those faults?”

      Ethnic cleansing, mass indoctrination of hatred , torture and detention without trial of thousands are all reasons why I despise Israel. There should be a Jewish state but version 1.0 isn’t it.

      • RoHa says:

        “There should be a Jewish state”

        No, there shouldn’t.

        • Taxi says:

          Seafoid,
          I second RoHa one hundred per cent: “No, there shouldn’t”.

          I have a long list of why there SHOULDN’T be a “jewish state”, but I’ll settle for a soulful one, or two, like this:

          And like this:

          I Am From There
          By Mahmoud Darwish
          Translated by A.Z. Foreman

          I am from there and I have memories. Like any other
          Man I was born. I have a mother,
          A house with several windows, friends and brothers.
          I have a prison cell’s cold window, a wave
          Snatched by seagulls, my own view, an extra blade
          Of grass, a moon at word’s end, a life-supply
          Of birds, and an olive tree that cannot die.
          I walked and crossed the land before the cross
          Of swords banqueted on what its body was.

          I come from there, and I return the sky
          To its mother when it cries for her, and cry
          For a cloud on its return
          To recognize me. I have learned
          All words befitting of blood’s court to break
          The rule; I have learned all the words to take
          The lexicon apart for one noun’s sake,
          The compound I must make:
          Homeland.
          link to poemsintranslation.blogspot.com

        • seafoid says:

          somewhere in the US> not in the middle east

    • Ecru says:

      @ Mike_Konrad

      Are you willing to see the only Jewish state on the planet dismantled to correct those faults?

      Considering how bad those faults are; ethnic cleansing, deliberately inculcated xenophobia and hatred of ALL not belonging to the “chosen” group, mass murder, child abuse, theft, rapine and warmongering……in a heartbeat.

      There comes a point when something is so broken, such a blasted mess that all you can do is tear it down and start again, it’s beyond patch and glue solutions. Israel reached that point in 1948 and it’s only gotten worse since.

  12. Kathleen says:

    Yep someone else had a hard time getting a link to Mondoweiss up

    John Kerry Makes Mideast Trip To Reignite Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks
    Commented Nov 5, 2013 at 16:20:11 in World

    “Max Blumenthal has some important things to say about his years spent in Israel digging into the present situation. Mondoweiss is an important place for relevant middle east information.

    Israel is a ‘corpse’ — Hedges on Blumenthal’s ‘Goliath’
    Annie Robbins and Phil Weiss on November 5, 2013

    link to mondoweiss.net
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    lbsaltzman on Nov 5, 2013 at 19:19:53
    “I am glad you go this posted. I tried several times and it never appeared. The Max Blumenthal book is a must read.”

    • Rusty Pipes says:

      Perhaps this recent clampdown at HuffPo is part of a campaign to squelch coverage of Blumenthal’s book, which is closely associated with this site. The old-fashioned way of squelching would involve a group like CAMERA inspiring its followers to bombard the management of HuffPo with complaints. In the internet sabotage, post-Reut era, it could involve blocking the ability of identified “delegitimizers” (like yourself) or of links to “delegitimizing” sites (like this one) to post at high-profile liberal sites like HuffPo.

      Thusfar, a month after its publication, aside from some mention in the alternative and ethnic press, the only major coverage Goliath has received has been through The Nation (which published the book). The Israel Lobby would like it to stay that way.

      • Ellen says:

        The American Conservative has a fairly significant readership and just put up a thoughtful review:

        “Will Israel Go Fascist?”

        In Goliath, America’s foremost partner in the Middle East is not the humanistic and ever resourceful “David” using guile to vanquish surrounding brutes, but a militaristic and racist state whose electoral majorities have set it on a trajectory towards fascism, if it isn’t there already. Even those generally well-informed about Israel and its occupation of the Palestinian territories will have their views challenged by Blumenthal’s sharp eye and deadpan factual presentations….

        link to theamericanconservative.com

        • seafoid says:

          I wonder if the New York Review will have the balls to review it.

        • American says:

          Evidently the word is spreading on Max’s book—-I had several mails from various FP political and other friends around the country mentioning they saw some review on it and were buying it.
          Hope it is HUGELY successful for Max personally–he deserves it.

        • Rusty Pipes says:

          Ironically, Alterman’s sloppy hatchet-job and subsequent attempted clean-ups may have done more to raise interest in “Goliath” among liberals who are not hardcore Zionists, both within the Nation’s regular readership and beyond.

  13. MRW says:

    Congratulations to Max for slinging his balls over his shoulder and walking into the vipers’ pit.