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Kerry’s framework according to Friedman and Indyk (Updated: Abbas Weighs In)

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This graphic with the text in Hebrew appeared in Ha’aretz on January 30.

Update:  President Mahmoud Abbas, in an interview with the New York Times today (Monday), made the following points about the character of the future Palestinian state that he envisions:

  • American-led NATO security force will protect borders for an indefinite period
  • Palestine will be a demilitarized state
  • Israeli soldiers can remain up to five years
  • Settlements should be evacuated in five years
  • No recognition of Israel as a Jewish state

 

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In his column in the New York Times, Thomas Friedman revealed what he expects to be the main U.S. positions contained in the framework accord that John Kerry will present to the Israelis and the Palestinians within the next few weeks.  Although Friedman did not indicate what the sources were for his outline of the Kerry document, the Israeli press is widely reporting his account as true.

At the same time, a description of the framework which was presented in a telephone conference call between Martin Indyk, the U.S. envoy to the negotiations, and leaders of Jewish organizations, has been leaked to the press, adding more details to the speculation about the Kerry proposals.

Here is Friedman in the NY Times on the contents of the Kerry document:

The “Kerry Plan,” likely to be unveiled soon, is expected to call for an end to the conflict and all claims, following a phased Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank (based on the 1967 lines), with unprecedented security arrangements in the strategic Jordan Valley. The Israeli withdrawal will not include certain settlement blocs, but Israel will compensate the Palestinians for them with Israeli territory. It will call for the Palestinians to have a capital in Arab East Jerusalem and for Palestinians to recognize Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people. It will not include any right of return for Palestinian refugees into Israel proper.

 

Quoting an unnamed participant in the Thursday Indyk conference call, Mark Landler writes in the New York Times:

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Among the elements under consideration, a participant in the call said, is a plan to compensate descendants of Jews who were forced to flee Arab countries after the State of Israel was created in 1948. That could give Israelis more of a motive to support a new Palestinian state.

The official, Martin S. Indyk, the special envoy for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, told the Jewish leaders that if the framework were to be accepted by both sides, the peace talks could be extended beyond the nine-month time frame set last summer by Secretary of State John Kerry. The new goal, he said, would be to sign a treaty by the end of 2014.

The framework, Mr. Indyk said, will not deal specifically with the political status of Jerusalem, which is claimed as a capital by both Israelis and Palestinians.

…the framework foresees the creation of a security zone along the Jordan River that would be fortified with high-tech fences, electronic sensors and unmanned drones, to protect Israel from attacks.

Indyk’s description of what the document will say about the issue of Jerusalem contradicts what were Friedman’s expectations on this crucial issue.

Indyk refused to comment on the conference call and the State Department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, denied that Indyk had made any statements detailing the contents of the Kerry framework accord.

Another report of the call claimed that Indyk said that according to the framework, 80% of the Israeli settlers would remain in place and the land on which they live would be annexed by Israel.

Not only is the Kerry framework apparently a vague document, which can be open to differing interpretations, but in the conference call Indyk said, “both sides could ‘lay down reservations’ to parts of the framework while agreeing to use it  as a basis for talks.”  Between the reservations and the vagueness it appears that the value of this document serves only to continue the negotiations, but not move them forward toward a final resolution.  The peace process continues….

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The table below is adapted from a table published in the Hebrew edition of YNetNews.Com on January 31 outlining John Kerry’s visits to Palestine/Israel.  It begs the question: Is Kerry obsessive or just dedicated and diligent?  And if the latter is the correct answer, than to what is he dedicated?

  Kerry’s visits to Palestine/Israel — ביקורי ג’ון קרי בישראל

  Visit  ביקור בישראל Date תאריך
1. 19-22 במרס March
2. 7-9 באפריל April
3. 23-24 במאי May
4. 27-30 ביוני June
5. 15 בספטמבר September
6. 5-7 בנובמבר November
7. 8 בנובמב November
8. 4-6 בדצמבר December
9. 12-13 בדצמבר December
10. 2 בינואר  January 2014
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So no ROR for the Palestinians.

But Jews and ‘their descendants’ (recall how Ziotrolls disregard this notion when we talk about Palestinian descendants) get compensation?

As if the Palestinians are responsible.

Whereas Zionist Jews are responsible for the Nakba.

Any proposal that…
– requires recognition or acceptance of Israel as a supremacist “Jewish State”;
– uses ’67 lines rather than Israel’s / Partition border as a starting point for territorial negotiations;
– absolves Israel from having to repatriate refugees; and
– refuses to permit full Palestinian autonomy (including its own military and full control of all its borders and airspace, etc.);
…is a bad joke.

This isnt kerry’s propasal this is netanyahu’s proposal.
Of course there is no peace when a clown like Kerry rules over the “process”.
Another clown in abbas that want a NATO US force in palestine!

80% of settlers and THEIR Land
FFS.

How does Kerry define settlers? East Jerusalem or just WB minus al quds ?
Israel definition or international definition.

I am guessing that Kerry’s “Palestinian capital” will be a Burger King stand rented from Im Tirtzu in Abu Dis. But that even this will be impossible for Netanyahu to sell to his people.

Indyk says al quds off the table. No deal then.

Jews DO NOT understand how important al quds is to the Palestinians.

They can build a wall around it (and they have) and they can deny access for the next 300 years but Al Quds is the heart of Palestine

Jawaal the Palestinian mobile company had a campaign a few years ago called Al Quds fil baal – Jerusalem in your mind. It was a sticker book aimed at all the Palestinian kids who had never been to the city because Israel won’t let them.

Old fellahi ladies will walk all the way from ar ram in their beautiful Palestinian dresses on Friday just to be in the city.

-Cheef Haalich
wayn rayeh ?
-Al ‘uds
Allah ya’teeki al afya

Because it is part of who they are and what the Germans did 1939-45 does not change that and never will.

While Ashkenazi Jews were figuring out the best ways to smoke fish in the forests of northern Europe, Palestinians were minding Jerusalem.

So Jews prayed about it in the cold north.
Palestinians fucking LIVED there, took care of it, spent their own money on it, developed the city’s culture and made it what it was before the bots turned up and fucked everything up.

And it’s off the table? Fuhgdaboutit.

Well, it looks like all that money that the zios used to destroy the US political system, by making it subservient to a racist alien state is paying off…