Netanyahu deputy charged with administering Palestinians says they are ‘beasts, not human’

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A shocking report from “John Brown,” an academic and blogger at +972:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu finalized the formation of a new government this week when he signed a coalition agreement with far-right settler party Jewish Home. As part of the agreement, Rabbi [Eli] Ben-Dahan will be Israel’s next deputy defense minister, responsible for the army’s “Civil Administration.”

The Civil Administration is responsible for all aspects the occupation that don’t involve boots-on-the-ground security operations — it administers planning, building, and infrastructure for both Jews and Palestinians in Area C of the West Bank.

Brown offers these two quotes from Ben-Dahan:

“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” — MK Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan, Aug 1, 2013. (Hebrew)

“A Jew always has a much higher soul than a gentile, even if he is a homosexual.” — MK Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan, Dec 27, 2013. (Hebrew/English)

Brown concludes:

Israelis are right to be worried about MK Ayelet Shaked becoming the next justice minister, and Naftali Bennett the education minister. But try being a Palestinian in the West Bank, where the man in charge of administering your day-to-day life doesn’t even see you as a human being.

Question to the New York Times: Why isn’t this a story?

Question to American Zionists. Do you believe in the separation of church and state in the United States? Then why not in Israel and Palestine too?

Question to American liberal Zionists. At what point do Israeli actions cross a threshhold for you, and you say, I’m going to join the boycott movement because we need to put real pressure on that place to change?

PS. The Washington Post has followed our lead and done an excellent piece on the elevation of Ayelet Shaked to Justice Minister, focusing on her (genocidal) description of all Palestinians as enemies of Israel. Ishaan Tharor writes:

In July, in a controversial post on Facebook, the then-member of the Knesset posted the text of an article by the late Israeli writer Uri Elitzur that referred to Palestinian children as “little snakes” and appeared to justify the mass punishment of Palestinians living under Israeli occupation. The post has since been deleted, but an archived version remains.

I know that I failed to register the distinction between Shaked’s words in 2014 and Elitzur’s. She wrote before quoting from him: “This is an article by the late Uri Elitzur, which was written 12 years ago, but remained unpublished. It is as relevant today as it was at the time.”

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    • just
      May 9, 2015, 12:10 pm

      Actually, the photo reminds me of this other Rabbi:

      “‘Peeping rabbi’ Barry Freundel could face 17-year sentence http://dlvr.it/9kvp41

      He could have chosen Daniella Weiss, et al.

      Thanks for the introduction to this Israeli racist who happens to be a Rabbi, Phil. The face of Israel is in sharp focus now. Maybe it’s a good thing that the 95% exposed themselves last summer and voted for the same.

  1. edwardm
    May 9, 2015, 12:03 pm

    If that bigoted piece of […] qualifies as a human, then I have never been prouder to be a mere animal. Grrr! Bark Bark!.

  2. Mooser
    May 9, 2015, 12:26 pm

    Liberal Zionists only get shocked by people who aren’t Zionist enough. After all, they have already stretched Zionism to it’s maximum liberality, and any more is too much. It doesn’t work the other way round.

    Another guy who needs to visit the Wailing Wahl.

    • echinococcus
      May 10, 2015, 1:27 am

      Question to the New York Times: Why isn’t this a story?

      Because “dog bites man” ain’t a story; “man bites dog” is. The latest blood-sucking bastard isn’t worse than any of his predecessors since 1948, even if he isn’t likely to be better. Come back when Marwan Barghouti gets the appointment, that is news and we’ll publish it.

      Question to American Zionists. Do you believe in the separation of church and state in the United States? Then why not in Israel and Palestine too?

      Not only we believe in it for the States, we’ll fight to the last drop to keep it that way: we’re a small minority. Not in Israel; why else have we massacred and chased away the people and packed the place with imports from Brooklyn and elsewhere? Can’t one have a little theocracy of one’s own in one’s own little patch that one cleansed with one’s own hands for so many years? Whassamatter with you, you an Anti-semite or what?

      Question to American liberal Zionists. At what point do Israeli actions cross a threshhold for you, and you say, I’m going to join the boycott movement because we need to put real pressure on that place to change?

      See Mooser’s answer. If we join a boycott, it’s precisely to keep that place from changing. We’re Zionists, for chrissakes, when are you gonna understand that?

  3. oldgeezer
    May 9, 2015, 12:33 pm

    Are there any goi cabinet members who haven’t shown themselves to be raving rabid racists (I like aliteration)?

    That’s a serious question as I am not familiar with all of them. There are no exceptions amongst those I am aware of.

    That level of racism combined with the propensity for crimes against humanity many of them support or espouse does not bode well for humanity. It is well beyond the point in time that the west should cease appeasing that rogue state.

    • a blah chick
      May 9, 2015, 5:06 pm

      I think Moshe Kahlon, the finance minister, is relatively sane. That being said none of them are going to fight for minority rights in any form.

  4. Bumblebye
    May 9, 2015, 2:24 pm

    Clearly, for people like Ben Dahan and Shaked, there’s common humanity and superior Jewmanity. I prefer to be lumped in with the common lot.

    • bintbiba
      May 9, 2015, 2:36 pm

      + 1 , Bumblebye .

      Count me in with the ‘common lot’ !!

      • Bornajoo
        May 9, 2015, 7:50 pm

        +another 1 Bumblebye!

        Well I think we all knew it had to get much, much worse before it had any chance of getting better. So on top of all the other freaks in charge we also have Bennett, Shaked and now this psycho nutjob too.

        I think we’re doing OK on the getting worse part…. I just hope that after whatever horrors these monsters inflict we will finally arrive at the getting better part

    • echinococcus
      May 10, 2015, 1:37 am

      Excuse me? That is a common basis for all Zionists. Why only Ben Dahan and Shaked? When have you seen a sign of its being different in the acts of any of them? Ben Gurion? Rabin? Whoever.
      That some of them say it openly doesn’t make any difference.

    • Mooser
      May 11, 2015, 11:09 am

      “there’s common humanity and superior Jewmanity.”

      Yes, commenter “Jon s” says:

      “Personally, I can trace my ancestry to certain 18th century rabbis”. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/jon-s?keyword=trace#sthash.XxKEcRjQ.dpuf

      And me, and mine we’re pretty much prostaches. Can’t trace dust motes back to the 1700’s. But it’s nice to know we have a Jewish aristocracy.

      • RoHa
        May 11, 2015, 7:45 pm

        My sister-in-law traced my ancestry back to a bunch of 17th century nobodies.

        But I thought all Zionist could trace their ancestry back to first century High Priests.

  5. Krauss
    May 9, 2015, 2:26 pm

    And WaPo continues to show that despite being a centrist newspaper, it’s actually to the left of the NYT when it comes to Jewish apartheid.

    And the NYT has gone hard-right. Not just right, but far right, on Israel/Palestine.

    • bintbiba
      May 10, 2015, 6:26 am

      +1 Bornajoo….

      Always delighted to be in your company… and in the ‘common lot’ with Bumblebye !

  6. Citizen
    May 9, 2015, 5:56 pm

    Yeah, more for what US taxpayers pay for, the new Israeli “Minister of Justsice”: http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-lawmakers-call-genocide-palestinians-gets-thousands-facebook-likes

  7. JeffB
    May 9, 2015, 7:19 pm

    Question to American Zionists. Do you believe in the separation of church and state in the United States? Then why not in Israel and Palestine too?

    Well I’ll answer. Your assumption is of. I do believe in separation of church and state in the USA and I also would prefer it for Israel. I don’t think Israel is well served by the degree of religious coercion that is part of the political culture.

    However, I think church-state seperation is less important for Israel than for the USA. FChristian believers in a regenerate church (including credobaptists) have trouble with state churches. If they try and mix the two (like they did in the Massachusetts colony for example) you quickly run into the problem of what do you do with the children of non-believers? This dilemma is what led colonial America to the Half-Way Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Way_Covenant) and from that eventually towards the full on belief in non-establishment and separation of church-state. Judaism is much closer to Catholicism, in that the church (religion) is defined by all and people (paedobaptist to use Christian language) and those people can be members at different levels. That’s much much more compatible with a state church. A Baptist country (like the USA) is going to have a Baptist culture and that Baptist culture is going to be far more harmed than helped by a state church. Judaism like Islam is more of a mixed bag where there strong plusses and minuses.

    Ultimately though Israelis by large margins support a state church. And I believe in Israeli democracy more than I believe in church-state separation. The people of Israel are entitled to choose to govern themselves as they see fit. I can ethically suggest greater separation but I wouldn’t use or support coercion to achieve it.

    ____

    OTOH the question doesn’t fit the rest of the article. I kind of suspect you mean something else than just separation of church and state.

    • Mooser
      May 10, 2015, 1:06 pm

      “The Holocaust justifies the Nabka completely.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/jeffb#sthash.jM9J3AMe.dpuf

      Really, “JeffyB”? Just the Nakba? Are you sure you aren’t selling all those Jewish lives a little to cheaply? Only the Nakba?
      But all the Zionists keep on saying the Nakba was no big deal, really, maybe didn’t really happen to anybody who was a real people. And you are going to throw away the Holocaust on that?

      Gee, “JeffyB” you’re a businessman right? Why don’t you put the Holocaust on e-bay and sell it to the highest bidder.

      • Keith
        May 10, 2015, 9:48 pm

        MOOSER- “Why don’t you put the Holocaust on e-bay and sell it to the highest bidder.”

        Too late, Ellie Wiesel already owns it and rents it out.

      • Mooser
        May 10, 2015, 11:50 pm

        “Too late, Ellie Wiesel already owns it and rents it out.”

        Ah, yes. I thought they could get more out of the Holocaust than just the Nakba.

        Also notice; “JeffyBs” statement raises nary a ripple of reaction from the other Zionists. Raises no more of a reaction than “There are ten dimes in a dollar”.

    • Mooser
      May 10, 2015, 1:12 pm

      “The people of Israel are entitled to choose to govern themselves as they see fit. I can ethically suggest greater separation but I wouldn’t use or support coercion to achieve it.”

      That’s what I keep on terlling everyone, “JeffyB” When American Judaism tries to influence Israel towards amelioration of its intransigence, you can proudly reply: “The people of Israel are entitled to choose to govern themselves as they see fit” and democracies shouldn’t take orders from religions, especially foreign religions.

    • Marnie
      May 11, 2015, 12:08 am

      “I don’t think Israel is well served by the degree of religious coercion that is part of the political culture.”

      “Israel” is well served as in “Thank you sir, can I have another!” It’s the Palestinians and the Arab Israelis who are not only well served, but are killed on a pretty much daily basis simply because they are not Jews.

      Jeezus Jeff, before you take it upon yourself to field any more questions (like a Don Draper for hasbara.com), take a deep breath and then, just don’t.

      • Marnie
        May 11, 2015, 1:41 am

        My editor is broked. “It’s the Palestinian and the Arab Israelis who are NOT well served..” is what I meant.

    • ziusudra
      May 11, 2015, 1:00 pm

      Greetings JeffB,
      As a lapsed catholic, i have nothing against Theocracy.
      Iran has done well since they sacked their last Shah.
      The Problem with Israel is that so many Israelis are progressive, well educated, not into religious de rigore to want to put up with too much Talmud & 613 Mitvah and thank god many are irreligious sacks anyway. I fear the State will try to cower them into keeping up with oppressive measures of Religion whereas turmoil will arise when they deny association. Israeli political parties are in cohoots with the 5 sects of Judaism. Nobody gets to get away. Exodus anybody?
      ziusudra
      PS The last time i confessed &/or went to Mass was at the Age of 13 & i haven’t stop running away from them since.

  8. just
    May 9, 2015, 8:07 pm

    The inimitable Gideon Levy:

    “Stop whining. Long live Israel’s new and honest government

    The 34th government will deserve Israel; Israel will deserve the 34th government. This is an authentic and representative government, the true manifestation of the spirit of the times and the deepest feelings of most Israelis. It will be a true government, without pretense, without makeup and without self-justification. What we’ll see is what we’ll get. Welcome to the fourth Benjamin Netanyahu government.

    They won’t talk haughtily and they won’t spout hollow slogans. Not about peace and not about human rights; not about two states and not about negotiations; not about international law, justice or equality. The truth will be thrust in the faces of Israelis and the world. And the truth is this: The two-state solution is dead (it was never born), the Palestinian state will not arise, international law does not apply to Israel, the occupation will continue to crawl quickly toward annexation, annexation will continue to crawl quickly toward an apartheid state; “Jewish” supersedes “democratic,” nationalism and racism will get the government stamp of approval, but they’re already here and have been for a long time.

    Neither Netanyahu, nor Habayit Hayehudi’s chairman MK Naftali Bennett nor that party’s faction members MK Ayelet Shaked and MK Eli Ben-Dahan, started this whole thing. They only expedited things. And there should be no shock or outrage, no bewailing the bitterness of fate. …….

    True, some of its members are more extreme than their predecessors, but that is mainly about rhetorical differences. Even the most inflammatory appointment, of Shaked as justice minister, which reverberated throughout the world over the weekend, is less revolutionary than it seems. Shaked is blunt and violent, whereas Zionist Union MK Tzipi Livni, her predecessor, was delicate and proper. But Justice Minister Shaked will not have to work hard to break open cracks in our democracy; they opened a long time ago.

    The best test of the nature of the regime in Israel is the test of the occupation and the war crimes: the foundations of apartheid are already deep and the war crimes remain uninvestigated. From her office in the heart of occupied Jerusalem, Livni has not made Israel more just in that respect. True, Shaked’s ideas are more nationalistic and her understanding of the essence of democracy is nil. True, many in the world were shocked that a person who identified with one of the most violent articles ever written here against the Palestinian people (by Uri Elitzur), was appointed minister of Israeli justice. But there’s no place for such sanctimoniousness. Elitzur expressed what many people are thinking.

    The appointment of another racist, Eli Ben-Dahan, as deputy defense minister, responsible for the Civil Administration, should not be earth-shattering either. True, Ben-Dahan said that “the Palestinians are animals, they are not human, they are not entitled to live” – but don’t these statements reflect the true attitude of many Israelis? Ben-Dahan will speak for them. That is how Israel has been treating the Palestinians for almost 50 years; Ben-Dahan is only saying things overtly. Now he will be responsible for the Civil Administration and the whole system of “humanitarian gestures” will be torn up. Ben-Dahan is the right man in the right place at the right time. An excellent appointment.

    A person who proudly says “I killed masses of Arabs” and calls them “shrapnel in the buttocks” will be education minister – and who in Israel doesn’t think that? The general of Operation Cast Lead, with its crimes, the man who contravened building restrictions, Yoav Galant, will be construction minister. Is that not a fine appointment? MK Uri Maklev of United Torah Judaism is to head the Knesset Science Committee? Does that not correctly reflect the attitude of some Israelis to science?

    Stop whining. Maybe Israel’s shadow government should be more enlightened, but not its real government. It is what the Israelis chose, it reflects their true stands. And so, long live the new government.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.655674?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    • Marnie
      May 11, 2015, 1:48 am

      Gideon Levy is awesome, thanks Just. That’s the truth. We’ll get exactly what we deserve because this is suicide. I didn’t vote for it, other people didn’t vote for it but here we are again. The abyss is more and more in focus. Go ahead Jeff, Jon, Hoppy, Yonah, “Miriam6” – start with the rationalizations and excuses because of course you have them. You kill us with them.

  9. RoHa
    May 10, 2015, 12:54 am

    And after reading that the IDF seems to take The King’s Torah as a manual of tactics, and that guy saying he’d rescue one Jew instead of 100 Gentiles, and the Beduin being asked to pay for their own dispossession, I see this.

    I might have to give up reading MW. Too depressing.

  10. eljay
    May 10, 2015, 9:03 am

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu finalized the formation of a new government this week when he signed a coalition agreement with far-right settler party Jewish Home. As part of the agreement, Rabbi [Eli] Ben-Dahan will be Israel’s next deputy defense minister, responsible for the army’s “Civil Administration.”
    . . .

    Brown offers these two quotes from Ben-Dahan:

    “[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” — MK Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan, Aug 1, 2013. (Hebrew)

    “A Jew always has a much higher soul than a gentile, even if he is a homosexual.” — MK Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan, Dec 27, 2013. (Hebrew/English)

    Israel continues to emit a supremacist stench. Must be partly why “liberal Zionists” – who defend a “kinder, gentler” supremacist “Jewish State” – spend so much time “holding their noses”.

  11. lysias
    May 10, 2015, 6:18 pm

    Hitler thought that Jews were a threat to the survival of the human race, but he never, as far as I know (and I have read Mein Kampf), said that they are not human.

    • Mooser
      May 11, 2015, 12:12 am

      “Hitler thought that Jews were a threat to the survival of the human race, but he never, as far as I know (and I have read Mein Kampf), said that they are not human.”

      You know, that was damned white of him.

      • oldgeezer
        May 11, 2015, 2:25 am

        Was he really white though or just melanin deficient? Just feeling silly and not arguing your point which is clear.

      • Mooser
        May 11, 2015, 10:50 am

        “Just feeling silly and not arguing your point which is clear.”

        Ah, feeling silly? In that case, I will link it!

    • tony greenstein
      May 11, 2015, 11:43 am

      Clearly he did believe Jews were less than human. Jews were regularly described as ‘human cattle’ a ‘bacillus’ ‘vermin’ etc. I doubt Eli Ben-Dahan is any worse than Hitler in what he says and so far hasn’t been able to emulate his hero either.

  12. just
    May 10, 2015, 6:28 pm

    “Habayit Hayehudi gets rabbis state pay
    Moments before leaving Religious Services Ministry, Minister Bennett paves way for rabbis to go on state payroll – even if they don’t have state position.

    … outgoing minister Naftali Bennett paved the way for hundreds of additional rabbis to get salaries from the state.

    The new regulations, which were published in the official government gazette Reshumot last Thursday, set criteria for rabbis to receive state funding even if they aren’t neighborhood or municipal rabbis.

    Bennett and Deputy Minister Eli Ben Dahan have long sought a way to give state funding to congregational rabbis and rabbinical organizations, especially those affiliated with national Orthodoxy, the movement their Habayit Hayehudi party represents. But the principal beneficiary of the move is liable to be the ultra-Orthodox Shas party, which will replace Habayit Hayehudi at the ministry’s helm in another few days.

    Though the regulations ostensibly take effect immediately, there is as yet no budget for them. Haaretz has learned that Habayit Hayehudi proposed financing the additional outlay with 4 million shekels ($1 million) in coalition funding that wasn’t used last year, as a stopgap until the new government can finally pass a budget for 2015. But the Finance Ministry vehemently opposes this.”…

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.655854?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    It’s a theocracy/ethnocracy/apartheid state! No democracy to be seen, at all.

    • Mooser
      May 11, 2015, 12:01 am

      “especially those affiliated with national Orthodoxy,”

      Watch out, Orthodox! The Jewish Daily Forward warns of “Orthodox Money,” and a knowledgeable poster here identifies “The Orthodox” as the most regressive denomination. Oh my! Is the TU breaking down?

      • Mooser
        May 11, 2015, 10:56 am

        And I read Uri Avnery this morning, and he was all “orthodox” and “Orthodox” and “ultra-Orthodox”.
        This will never do! If the great majority of the world’s Jews begin to think they are being exploited for the advantage of one denomination, the TU could be irreparably damaged.

        Of course, it’s only natural for the rest of us to bend the knee and give homage to the Orthodox, after all, they are the real thing, and the rest of us, mere pale imitations.
        A quick trip through the “Failed Messiah ” blog will show that Orthodoxy leads in every area of observance, ethics and morals, an example to us all.

      • ziusudra
        May 11, 2015, 12:39 pm

        Greetings Mooser,
        ….the Orthodoxy was a backlash against your great Moses Mendelssohn who sought the Haskala (enlightenment) for World Jewry. Two sects were their answer. He longed for Jews to drop yiddisch, the Talmud, take up german & visit public Schools not only Judeo religious schools. The two new orthodox sects squatted, but luckily other German Jews took him up on it. His Grandson became the famous Composer Felix Mendelssohn in the romantic period. Would we have an Einstein today, if he were born earlier & into an orthodox Family?
        ziusudra

      • Mooser
        May 11, 2015, 7:47 pm

        “ziusudra” They tried, the Orthodox tried, they really did. They wanted to get along, and accepted the invitation from the Reform Rabbis, first class.
        But when they saw those little necks staring up at them from the plate, and the soft-shell crabs went into the soft-shoe in the shrimp salad, they knew the differences were irreconcilable, and there was indeed sin in Cinncinati.

        “Would we have an Einstein today, if he were born earlier & into an orthodox Family?”

        If he could travel at near the speed of light, I think that’s possible.

  13. eusebio
    May 11, 2015, 8:47 am

    the people of Palestine have every rights to autonomy and the adavancement of human rights University

  14. Vera Gottlieb
    May 11, 2015, 2:33 pm

    And as of late, I don’t think of Zionists as being ‘human’ either.

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