BDS movement faces attack in six state legislatures

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Advocates of boycotting Israel are under attack in a number of states across the country. State legislatures in California, New York, Indiana, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Florida are debating anti-boycott measures. Most of them would penalize people or businesses that support the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement targeting Israel over human rights violations. Some of the bills would also hit those who only advocate for boycotting products made in Israeli settlements.

Supporters of the BDS movement are now mobilizing to try to defeat the bills–and in Maryland, activists say an anti-boycott bill a local Jewish group wanted to push for was defeated after the Freedom2Boycott coalition protested and lobbied against the measure. Some of the measures in other states have passed in the Assembly or Senate in a state, but have not yet been signed by the governors of the state.

The wave of anti-boycott bills is backed in some states by pro-Israel organizations. The measures are the latest line in a series of attacks the BDS movement has faced in state legislatures around the U.S. since 2014, when the American Studies Association passed a resolution in favor of boycotting Israel. Last year, twenty-two anti-BDS bills were introduced in U.S. legislatures. Lawyers warn that the measures may be unconstitutional and could chill speech that is critical of the state of Israel.

“BDS is gaining momentum, and that’s scaring a lot of people. That’s scaring a lot of Israel advocates,” said Rahul Saksena, an attorney at Palestine Legal, a group that fights back against attempts to curb speech in favor of Palestinian rights. Saksena said that instead of debating the movement, pro-Israel groups are trying to shut the movement down.

One of the most alarming bills is being debated in New York, which became the first state to consider anti-BDS bills in 2014, but not the first state to pass a measure. (In May 2015, South Carolina’s government became the first to pass legislation penalizing businesses that boycott countries South Carolina trades with. Boycotts of Israel were the clear target.)

The New York bills–there are two similar versions–would not only require the state to disinvest from companies that boycott Israel or products made in the occupied West Bank. It would also create a list of individual people and entities that boycott Israel, and post that list on the New York state website for the Office of General Services. It is the “most unconstitutional bill” being considered, said Saskena, though the others also raise constitutional issues. Advocating for boycotts is protected speech under the US Constitution.

One of the New York bills passed the state Senate in January by a 55-6 vote, and is now being debated in the Assembly. While that version applies to any boycotts of “allied nations,” the sponsor of the Assembly version of the bill only talked about the BDS movement when introducing it. The other version of the bill, which only mentions Israel, is being discussed in committee in the Assembly and the Senate.

Palestinian rights activists say the New York bill would create a “blacklist” reminiscent of the McCarthy era, when Hollywood shunned any writer, producer or actor allegedly associated with communism. And Josh Ruebner, policy director of the US Campaign to End the Occupation, told the Electronic Intifada he is worried that pro-boycott church groups who receive money from New York would see their funding slashed because of the bill. Palestine Legal’s Saskena said that Florida’s bill may also punish churches that have taken pro-Palestinian stands.

New York passed a resolution condemning BDS last year, but it had no teeth. The Jewish Community Relations Council advocated for the resolution, according to reporter Jacob Kornbluh, who writes on the Jewish community.

The other states– California, Indiana, and Florida–are considering bills that have similar language. They would prohibit their states from contracting with companies that boycott Israel. The Florida Senate and Indiana House have passed their measures, though they have to pass both the senate and house in these states to reach the governor. California is still debating the measure. The Virginia House passed a resolution condemning BDS for being “one of the main vehicles advocating for policies leading to the dissolution of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.” Another Virginia bill directs the Virginia-Israel Advisory Board to examine how the BDS movement might impact businesses in the state and its ability to attract investment. Last year, a legislator in Pennsylvania introduced a bill to cut off funding to universities that boycott Israel–similar to a New York bill that was defeated in 2014.

But activists have successfully defeated anti-boycott bills in the past. Earlier this year, the Baltimore Jewish Council said they would push for a bill to prevent companies boycotting Israel from doing business with the Maryland state government. Now, activists in that state say they have quashed the prospect of that bill being introduced in the legislature.

“The Freedom2Boycott coalition has clearly had a huge impact in derailing the BJC’s plan to push an anti-BDS bill in Maryland. While the BJC announced that it will not pursue a bill, we are continuing to lobby representatives and monitor the legislature for any last-minute attempts to sneak a bill through as an amendment, which has been done before,” Alison Glick, a member of the Freedom2Boycott coalition and Jewish Voice for Peace, told me in an e-mail. “We will use our momentum to continue educating our legislators about what BDS really is and why it is important for achieving justice in Israel/Palestine.”

Correction: This article originally said the Maryland legislature considered an anti-BDS bill. It has not. Instead, the Baltimore Jewish Council said they wanted the bill to be introduced in the legislature. Activists say they lobbied against the measure being introduced–and were successful in their lobbying.

60 Responses

  1. Marnie
    February 8, 2016, 12:06 pm

    What has America become? The state of israel’s largest settlement. DISGUSTING.

    • JWalters
      February 8, 2016, 6:09 pm

      Extending your metaphor, America’s establishment media is now imprisoned by Israel in a Gaza of the mind. Israel is trying to extend that imprisonment to college campuses, businesses, and individuals. This is tyranny, pure and simple. Disgusting and DANGEROUS. They will be eavesdropping on Americans, and their “American” military police will be knocking on Americans’ doors.

      • Kay24
        February 8, 2016, 8:58 pm

        We are no more the land of the free and the home of the brave.

        We are controlled by a hateful apartheid nation, and it is extending it’s condemned policies into the US. It is a shame those who call themselves “Americans” are allowing this to happen, and allowing themselves to be used as pawns in these despicable un American policies.

    • Lillian Rosengarten
      February 9, 2016, 11:48 am

      They are blind but it won’t stop us!

    • upsondundas
      February 9, 2016, 1:33 pm

      Well said! The Land of the Free!! ……..Bollocks

  2. eljay
    February 8, 2016, 12:32 pm

    There’s an ugly irony to the fact that the self-proclaimed Land of Freedom, Justice and Democracy continues to do everything in its power:
    – to safeguard Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine; and
    – to absolve the “Jewish State” of its past and on-going (war) crimes and its obligations under international law.

    I had a good laugh when Hillary Clinton – Zio-supremacist and hypocrite – took time out of her busy Israel-fellating schedule to express disgust at the “immorality” of the toxic water crisis in Flint, Michigan.

  3. Kathleen
    February 8, 2016, 1:20 pm

    Thanks Alex

  4. amigo
    February 8, 2016, 1:23 pm

    BDS is global and growing hence these desperate efforts to shut it down.Companies can decide to not do business with the rogue entity just as ordinary Joes can exercise their boycott at the the store.The more these zionist morons push back with these actions , the more BDS will gain support.

    Truth always comes out on top.

    • bintbiba
      February 8, 2016, 2:37 pm

      “Truth always comes out on top”

      absolumentissimo, amigo ! See Jonathan Ofir’s magnificent testimony / truth-telling at its best on today’s MW edition.

      [To my fellow Israelis: We can stop this
      Middle East Jonathan Ofir on February 8, 2016 ]

      • amigo
        February 9, 2016, 11:07 am

        “absolumentissimo, amigo ! See Jonathan Ofir’s magnificent testimony / truth-telling at its best on today’s MW edition.”bintbiba

        Yes I read it.Great article but pity it cannot make it to the front pages of the MSM.Maybe some day.

      • Mooser
        February 9, 2016, 12:29 pm

        “To my fellow Israelis”

        Except, I could be wrong, I thought the Government of Israel did not acknowledge “Israeli” as a nationality. I thought everybody was pretty much a “Jew” (of one type or another) or “Arab” and such. So I don’t quite get who he is talking to.

    • upsondundas
      February 9, 2016, 1:34 pm

      Well said Truth will prevail!!!

    • alen
      February 9, 2016, 5:28 pm

      What is going on with Zionists these days? Are they psychologically trying to undermine themselves because of growing guilt? Or are they just getting dumber as Omar Barghouti said.

      First Netanyahu and now this. Every action seems almost scripted to make BDS grow faster and faster. If I submitted this as a novel or movie script, it would all sound way to improbable. This will only make BDS that much more well known. If I was a Zionist I would do everything the opposite of what they are currently doing and saying. I guess BDS will work faster than I gave it credit for.

  5. ckg
    February 8, 2016, 1:25 pm

    CUNY professor Peter Beinart publicly supports a “settlement boycott”. So will New York put him on its blacklist and fire him?

  6. Ossinev
    February 8, 2016, 2:04 pm

    @amigo
    “BDS is global and growing hence these desperate efforts to shut it down”

    100% agree. The publicity being generated by these efforts to “ban” BDS is always a plus factor. More and more ordinary voters in the US who may not have been aware before of just what their country has been fostering and supporting under the influence of the Zionist lobby will hopefully get wake up calls after they look into the I/P situation in more detail.

    • brenda at fol
      February 9, 2016, 8:42 am

      Indeed, one of the primary goals of BDS is to bring out of the shadows the unethical and illegal conduct of Israel and its American and British patrons. Most people simply just don’t know what has been happening for decades. We must protect the rule of law, the premise of democracy, the hope of justice. For anyone looking for a good BDS resource, see BDSlist dot org, which is compiling a descriptive list of Israeli products that should be subject to BDS. Together we can raise awareness.

  7. JLewisDickerson
    February 8, 2016, 2:05 pm

    RE: “In May 2015, South Carolina’s government became the first to pass legislation penalizing businesses that boycott countries South Carolina trades with. Boycotts of Israel were the clear target.” ~ Kane

    MORE SPECIFICALLY, FROM THE J POST ARTICLE LINKED TO:

    [EXCERPT] WASHINGTON — South Carolina’s governor has signed into law a bill to stop efforts to boycott, divest and sanction Israel on Thursday afternoon, in a first for the nation on a statewide level.
    The bill makes no mention of Israel directly, but prevents public entities from contracting with businesses engaging in the “boycott of a person or an entity based in or doing business with a jurisdiction with whom South Carolina can enjoy open trade.” . . .

    MY COMMENT: What a nightmare! I would rather bash my head into a wall than have to deal with laws of this type.

    • Mooser
      February 8, 2016, 2:10 pm

      ” I would rather bash my head into a wall than have to deal with laws of this type.”

      I’d rather bash my head into a wall than try to nullify the Constitution from a State Legislature, but they like that kind of thing down there.

      (OH WAIK. I read the first two sentences with trepidation, praying “Don’t let WA. be one of the six, please.)

    • lysias
      February 8, 2016, 2:11 pm

      Massachusetts Burma Law;

      The Massachusetts Burma Law was a law enacted in 1996 by the Massachusetts legislature limiting state entities from purchasing services from companies doing business with Myanmar (Burma). A “restricted trade” list was compiled by the Commonwealth, which included 34 members of the National Foreign Trade Council (NFTC). The NFTC filed suit against then-Massachusetts Secretary of Administration and Finance, Stephen Crosby, in Crosby v. National Foreign Trade Council, 530 U.S. 363 (2000), arguing that the Massachusetts law infringed upon the federal government’s foreign affairs and foreign commerce powers, and that it was already pre-empted by federal law. Massachusetts was also charged with violating the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution. The NFTC won the case with U.S. Supreme Court Justice David H. Souter ruling that “the state Act is preempted, and its application unconstitutional, under the Supremacy Clause.” The law was thus nullified.

      I would have thought that, under the reasoning of the Supreme Court, South Carolian’s law is also unconstitutional.

      • Abern
        February 9, 2016, 10:03 am

        South Carolina’s law is unconstitutional, but that doesn’t prevent such a law being passed and enforced. The remedy is a lawsuit. A lawsuit costs money, takes time, and the plaintiff must have ‘standing’, which means the plaintiff must show that he is being harmed by the law.

        If all that comes together, and the law is overturned, all the legislature must do is rework the law to get around the court’s ruling, and then the whole process has to start again to get the new law overturned. Those who want Biblical Creation taught in schools have been at this for decades.

      • JLewisDickerson
        February 10, 2016, 2:27 am

        RE: “The Massachusetts Burma Law was a law enacted in 1996 by the Massachusetts legislature limiting state entities from purchasing services from companies doing business with Myanmar (Burma). A ‘restricted trade’ list was compiled by the Commonwealth, which included 34 members of the National Foreign Trade Council (NFTC).” ~ lysias

        MY REPLY: Thanks for the info on Crosby v. National Foreign Trade Council. It sounds like a very interesting decision that might well be of significance in regard to the constitutionality of anti-BDS state legislation – especially where the legislation penalizes people/entities who are only boycotting the W.B. settlements, and not Israel proper within the Green Line [a/k/a the (pre-)1967 borders and/or 1949 Armistice borders].

        In regards to its potential for making me want to bash my head into a wall, at least the Massachusetts Burma Law was not nearly so lacking in clarity as the S.C. legislation which penalizes businesses engaging in the boycott of a person or an entity based in or doing business with “a jurisdiction with whom South Carolina can enjoy open trade”. It is possible that this curious use of “jurisdiction with whom South Carolina can enjoy open trade” was an attempt to comply with Crosbywithout making the legislation specific to Israel, but it seems to present numerous other problems (for instance, it would appear to have a considerable ‘chilling effect’, possibly of such a magnitude as to render it unconstitutional).

      • JLewisDickerson
        February 10, 2016, 2:57 am

        RE: the Massachusetts Burma Law

        SERIES OF SEQUENTIAL ROADSIDE SIGNS, CIRCA 1950:

        His cheek
        Was rough
        His chick vamoosed
        And now she won’t
        Come home to roost
        Burma-Shave

        SOURCE – link to fiftiesweb.com

  8. John Douglas
    February 8, 2016, 2:05 pm

    If anything like these bills pass and then get approval in the courts it will do serious damage to the freedom of speech in the US, expanding beyond this issue to protest activities of many sorts. Isn’t it enough that Israel gets billions in US tax dollars for military aid to squash Palestinians; that Israel drags us into horrible unjust wars; that it forces us, using threats against political parties and politicians, to prostitute ourselves and lie at the UN? The defense of Israel’s indefensible actions must also require the watering down of free speech? The cowardliness of US leaders is disgusting.

  9. lysias
    February 8, 2016, 2:14 pm

    The behavior of those opposing BDS reminds me of nothing so much as the behavior of the people who opposed abolitionism.

  10. dx
    February 8, 2016, 3:43 pm

    This looks to be patently unconstitutional. Pro-BDS advocates or just plain old free speech advocates need to challenge South Carolina in court.

  11. italian ex-pat
    February 8, 2016, 8:51 pm

    I thought the penalty for the boycott of Israeli products only applied to individuals and/or companies joining boycotts sponsored by FOREIGN countries. Which I interpret as : as long as I boycott Israel out of my own personal convictions, I’m not breaking any law. Am I correct?

  12. Boomer
    February 9, 2016, 6:13 am

    Did any states or Congress pass laws against BDS movements aimed at apartheid South Africa?

  13. Hastobe
    February 9, 2016, 9:59 am

    The same thing happened in apartheid South Africa but people were mobilised even more strongly as a result – going to prison if necessary. The same will happen re Israel. Criminalising protest simply gave more publicity to those standing against the human rights abuses (whites going to prison = massive media coverage). It just accelerated the fall of apartheid.

    There will be many who will support BDS regardless of the cost. I, for one, would be happy to go to prison rather than give into the bullying tactics of the racist Zionist regime. It would be the least I could do given the years I spent as a Zionist ignorant of the horrors being inflicted on another people in my name.

  14. amigo
    February 9, 2016, 11:02 am

    Looks as if Israel is preparing to declare it,s borders—again.

    “Netanyahu: We’ll Surround Israel With Fences ‘To Defend Ourselves Against Wild Beasts’

    The government is preparing a multi-year plan to surround Israel with security barriers, prime minister says.’ In the area that we live in, we must defend ourselves.’ ”

    Note the line, ” In the area that we live in, we must defend ourselves.’. Do I foresee another land grab

    How does surrounding yourself with fences solve the attacks that have been carried out by Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem.

    So it,s back to the stockade for the chosen people.You have come a long way Israel.Not much further to go , on your way to self destruction.

    Paywall but here is the link for anyone who knows their way through the “Wall”.

    link to haaretz.com

    • amigo
      February 9, 2016, 11:45 am

      This from J post on the same story.

      ““We are preparing a multi-year project to encircle Israel with a security fence, to defend ourselves in the Middle East as it is now, and as it is expected to be,” he said. In addition, he said. A plan is also being drawn up to fill in the gaps in the security fence in Judea and Samaria”

      So what does he mean by , “as it is now and as it is expected to be. Doesn,t putting a fence along the Jordanian border mean that they intend to annex the West Bank , (incorrectly referred to as Judea /Samaria by zionist beasts and spin quacks.)

      read more at !!.

      link to jpost.com

      • eljay
        February 9, 2016, 12:19 pm

        “Netanyahu: We’ll Surround Israel With Fences ‘To Defend Ourselves Against Wild Beasts’

        The government is preparing a multi-year plan to surround Israel with security barriers, prime minister says.’ In the area that we live in, we must defend ourselves.’ ” …

        Aggressor-victimhood sure is a tough gig. :-(

      • amigo
        February 9, 2016, 1:06 pm

        It occurred to me after posting the above , that Israel is going to build their “defence ” fence-s around the bantusans they intend to leave the Palestinians.That,s a whole lot of fences but wont that leave nietanyahu,s “Israel ” looking like Swiss cheese.Oh the irony.

        Does it also mean that the illegal squatter terrorists will have to climb over fences to burn Palestinian families or destroy olive trees.Hell , they wont like yahoo,s plans.

      • eljay
        February 9, 2016, 1:09 pm

        || amigo: … Does it also mean that the illegal squatter terrorists will have to climb over fences to burn Palestinian families or destroy olive trees.Hell , they wont like yahoo,s plans. ||

        Why does King Bibi hate his own Jewish subjects so much?!

      • amigo
        February 9, 2016, 1:17 pm

        “Aggressor-victimhood sure is a tough gig. :-(” eljay.

        Zionists invented the concept.They should be better at it.

        Btw, will they put fences along their shoreline and prevent all those Tel Avivians from having their dips.Or will they place Yonah,,s beloved IDF on the beach to shoot any non Jewish Israelis who dare to take a dip in the same water as their betters.

        What a country.

      • eljay
        February 9, 2016, 1:24 pm

        || amigo: … What a country. ||

        What a (Jewish) state of affairs.

        Wrapping a wall around your country seems like a bad idea, kind of like fish deciding they’d all be much safer in a barrel…

    • upsondundas
      February 9, 2016, 1:50 pm

      I suppose it will be American Dollars that will pay for that? If it is how can a country with 60 thousand homeless in New York City alone a lot living rough justify that? I know that we in England are not perfect by any means but they would be quite an outcry about that. I say one thing for having a King or dictator they are easier to rid of and change things quicker than all of this democracy bollocks Politicians have too much power, you vote them in then they just do what they like in the name of democracy. Is it all just about money and power or am I missing something?

      • amigo
        February 9, 2016, 4:22 pm

        “I suppose it will be American Dollars that will pay for that?” upsondundas

        You can bet your sterling on it.It may well be why nietandyahu is refusing to sign the latest handout he received from POTUS to stfu about the Iran deal , which he did for a day or two. He will demand that his subjects in the USA pay for Israel,s defence.

        “U.S. to Netanyahu: Sign Military Aid Package, No Better Deal With Next President

        After Netanyahu says he would wait for a new U.S. president to reach a better military deal for Israel, American officials fire back.
        read more: link to haaretz.com

        Caution , the article is behind a paywall but the headline says it all.

  15. oldgeezer
    February 9, 2016, 12:36 pm

    The mere thought that a US state (say New York) would punish a New York taxpaying, job creating, business and it’s New York tax paying citizens in order to protect a foreign state and it’s workers from what is essentially an exercise of free speech and will truly shows the extent to which zionism has subverted our democracies.

    Which group of people to these legislators represent and to which state are they loyal?

  16. James Canning
    February 9, 2016, 1:26 pm

    Foolish American politicians, trying to encourage further violations of international law by Israel.

    • Citizen
      February 10, 2016, 7:27 am

      Not to mention how these anti-BDS laws and bills chill free speech, the bedrock of US democracy’s informed consent.

  17. Rashers2
    February 9, 2016, 2:16 pm

    I don’t understand why individual State legislatures in the US are acting as Mileikowsky’s pimps and runners on BDS! Then, I don’t understand US political funding or whether local elected representatives are also – as the Federal elected representatives on Capitol Hill appear to be – members of the oldest profession who simply sell themselves to the highest-bidding Johns, which currently are those with an “Israel agenda”. What gain is there for a State government to introduce laws that are potentially unconstitutional and where there must be a foreseeable probability (at least, material possibility) that the Federal judiciary will set aside such laws? It seems a potential waste of energy, effort and of the legislative calendar on behalf of these States, for no positive benefit. Can one of you nice Americans (or any student of the US political system) explain what key pressures apply to State politics, which mean that State legislatures (whose remits are by definition only State-wide) appear as much in thrall to the Israel lobby as is the Federal legislature; and what’s in it for the State governments?

  18. JustJessetr
    February 9, 2016, 7:09 pm

    While MW was spitting nails and shreying about “should”, i called my NY Assemblyperson and asked them to support A9036. I think BDS is poison.

    • eljay
      February 10, 2016, 11:59 am

      || JustJessetr: … I think BDS is poison. ||

      A sort of chemotherapy intended to cure Israel of the wasting disease of oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” with which it is afflicted. All the more reason to support BDS.

      • JustJessetr
        February 10, 2016, 10:28 pm

        You’re right! What a stunning argument! I take it all back and support BDS!

        NOT!

      • Sibiriak
        February 11, 2016, 3:35 am

        JustJessetr: BDS “ushers in Jew-hatred
        (link to mondoweiss.net)
        ——————

        Stunning argument against BDS.

        NOT!

      • eljay
        February 11, 2016, 7:32 am

        || JustJessetr: You’re right! What a stunning argument! I take it all back and support BDS!

        NOT! ||

        Well of course you don’t support BDS – you’re part of the wasting disease. You’re happy to continue existing even if it means completely destroying your host.

  19. MaxNarr
    February 9, 2016, 10:59 pm

    We have declared war on the BDS movement plain and simple. We will not stop until it is obliterated. Be prepared for lawfare on a scale unheard of until this point, not only in the USA but across the globe.

    • Annie Robbins
      February 10, 2016, 1:03 am

      uuu O uuuuu scary/NOT

    • Rashers2
      February 10, 2016, 2:03 am

      You & @JustJessetr can stamp your nasty butterfly feet as much as you like but BDS ain’t goin’ away. The severity of the reaction indicates it’s already having effects (and seriously upsetting the Ziopaths in T-A, which is a collateral benefit).

    • Citizen
      February 10, 2016, 7:34 am

      Bring it on! Humanists are use to attempts to have them muzzled; the arc of Justice is not to be denied in the long run.

      • MHughes976
        February 10, 2016, 8:52 am

        I’m sure humanists have had a rough time but if they find themselves believing in that good old arc of justice aren’t they resorting to belief in some force for good unknown to science, in short to a god? This question is not about the ME, so probably should be ignored.

      • echinococcus
        February 10, 2016, 9:10 am

        Hughes,

        It is also about the ME –where no such arc has been sighted in human memory.

      • Mooser
        February 10, 2016, 11:35 am

        “in some force for good unknown to science”

        Human goodness and justice is “unknown to science”? Okay, sure, gee, when you put it like that, I guess I have no choice but to believe all goodness comes from God.

      • RoHa
        February 10, 2016, 11:49 am

        I’m not going to ignore it even if should, because it’s interesting.

        “if they find themselves believing in that good old arc of justice aren’t they resorting to belief in some force for good unknown to science, in short to a god?”

        1. A force for good is not necessarily a god. The idea of karma, in its various interpretations, can be regarded as something very similar to the arc of justice, and yet it is not regarded as being in any way dependent on Gods. The Gods themselves are bound by karma.

        2. A force for good may be unknown to current science, but that goes for an awful lot of things. No real scientist has ever declared that science is complete. Heck, not even climate “scientists” go quite that far.

        3. The arc of justice may not be a single force similar to the four fundamental forces, but rather an emergent force. Evolution is a not a single, simple force, but the result of a number of simpler processes. The arc of justice may be something similar, and be the result of processes already known to science. (If anything is.)

        So I think the humanist has plenty of wriggle room to invoke the arc of justice without invoking any God of any description.

        None of the above should be taken as an argument that the arc of justice is in any way real.

      • MHughes976
        February 13, 2016, 2:53 pm

        I went to a lecture on religion by RM Hare in my youth in which he used the phrase ‘the world is so organised that morality is worth while’ – a prosaic and very Englsh version of Theodore Parker’s very American and poetic language about the arc of justice. It’s akin to but not quite the same as confidence in humanity and its ability to progress (Feuerbach – very German?) At the time someone said to me that organisation did not imply an organiser, but I’ve always had a problem with the idea that any such organisation could result from the causes and effects known to physics or indeed that any cause producing this result could lack an analogy with the human mind enough to be significant. So the impersonal version of karma, if that’s a proper term, would not be enough for me.
        Well, this isn’t a philosophy discussion group nor yet a place for confessions of faith. I turn quickly to echino. The arc in the ME is maybe bending the wrong way, Inagree. However, I do hope that Citizen’s confidence that American traditions of free expression will stand the current threats is justified, indeed I think it is.

    • eljay
      February 10, 2016, 7:34 am

      || MaxNarr: We have declared war on the BDS movement plain and simple. We will not stop until it is obliterated. Be prepared for lawfare on a scale unheard of until this point, not only in the USA but across the globe. ||

      You are going to be THE saddest little Zio-supremacist when your { Thousand Year “Jewish State” } collapses. :-(

    • oldgeezer
      February 10, 2016, 8:35 am

      @max

      You go girl. Nothing will alienate people quicker than that tactic

      • echinococcus
        February 10, 2016, 9:10 am

        Do we need even read someone who proudly caries the name “The Fool”?

    • Mooser
      February 10, 2016, 11:07 am

      “We have declared war on the BDS movement plain and simple.”

      Hwey “Maxila: Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei “hooray”

      Remember, “MaxNarr” when somebody says ‘We have declared war on Zionists and Jews’ all you have to say is “You can’t say that”!

      The gump can’t open his own blog, and has to beg his way past the Mods at Mondo, but he has declared war! Jeez what a fool. What greenhouse, what cave, do we grow these precious blooms in?

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