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  • Iranian talks fail after neocon 'blitz' -- as Obama dispatches aide to reassure Tel Aviv
    • American May 25, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      19,000 Nukes in 14 Countries. The World Nuke Club.

      link to aljazeera.com

      rotflmao....We will blown ourselves up way before Iran ever gets or uses nukes.
      Tell you what is scary though. A lot of the countries listed are countries that 'store" US warheads. Even though the nukes are sitting on German soil for instance they can't actually launch them, only the US can. What is scary about this besides the obvious, is that Israel is even more interfaced into all aspects of US security and command than ever. If they don't already have the codes and triggers for a launch of US nukes you can bet your ass they are trying to get them. ..and they are the ultimate Mad Mullahs.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      Well Israel and it's supporters have done everything but another false flag terror attack on the US to get their way on Iran.
      If their 'Iran is a threat to the whole wide World" meme doesn't work, that will probably be next.

  • American Zionist responses to Tel Aviv riots-- largely indifferent, but some outrage
    • American May 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm

      dbroncos..... Here is a more complete description included in the information from the NC Museum of History on Ulster Scots background and their migration with the colonies. NC was about 36% Scots,( erronously called called Scot-Irish) in the early colony days and were among the first immigrants into the colonies (prior to the Revolution). The Scot-Irish weren't "Irish" they were mainly from the Ulster plantation of Ireland...hence the term Scot Irish The actual Irish-Irish immigration didn't really come in any numbers until after the great potatoe famine in Ireland, settled more in cities and were more poverty struck in general than were the Scots who had moved on down the southern trail and established farms. Actually the Scots prospered more the the latter influx of Irish for that reason and also for the reason they were Prostants...which was somewhat more acceptable in the anglican English societies of the time than Irish (catholics) were. But the Scots were a 'warrior group"..the southern militias during the revolution were almost entirely Scots who had settled in the farming regions of the piedmont and western parts of the states as opposed to the army regulars from the coastal regions who were mostly English.

      However,..where did you get the stats on eco ranking?...I looked at the Census reports and couldn't find any rankings under ethnics for Irish or Scot or English or etc.....got a link? Scottish surnames are very common in my state and a lot of them associated with old money and industry...Irish names less so in this region.

      THE ULSTER SCOTS - SCOTCH-IRISH

      The following is a very brief accounting of where the Scotch-Irish started from, traveled to, and settled in. According to “The Scotch-Irish: A Social History” by James G. Leyburn...

      Ulster, one of the four traditional “kingdoms” of Ireland, was only 20 miles across the channel from Scotland. In 1603, a laird of northern Ayrshire (Scotland), Hugh Montgomery, learned that Con O’Niell was in prison. O’Niell was a chieftain of large properties in County Down, and County Antrium. Montgomery proposed to O’Niell a bargain. He could effect the escape and pardon of O’Niell, if in return, O’Niell would grant him half of his lands. The escape and pardon was achieved, but the granting of lands to Montgomery, was denied by King James. Montgomery sought the aid of another Ayrshire laird, James Hamilton, who had great influence with the King. With a new agreement drawn, giving each of the two lairds a third of O’Niell’s property, but had conditions, “that the lands should be planted with British Protestants, and that no grant of fee farm should be made to any person of mere Irish extraction.”

      In 1609, the two Scots, Montgomery and Hamilton, began to induce tenants and other Scots, to come over as farmer-settlers. Within 10 years, the population of the Plantation of Ulster, had reached around eight thousand. The assignment of lands to Scottish undertakers, was to have a permanent effect on the character of Ulster. Despite every vicissitude, including massacres and war, the Plantation gradually grew strong and proved to be a success. If one cause more than any other can be singled out for its success, it would be the presence, the persistence, and the industry of the Scots in the region.

      Back in Scotland, there was an increasing hardship occasioned by the spread of a form of land tenure, called the feu , which had the effect of dispossessing many farmers of their traditional lands. They were attracted to the generous lands visible across the channel from the shores of southwestern Scotland. Any Scot who had the inclination might now take the short journey across to Ulster and there, on easy terms, acquire a holding of land reputed to be far more fertile and productive than any he was likely to know in his own country. Economic distress in the Lowlands and economic opportunities in Ulster were the predominant causes for migration during the first fifty years after the plantation scheme had begun in 1610. In the Lowlands a positive fever for emigration swept. Ships were traveling back and forth with the frequency of a ferry.

      From 1634 onward to 1690, life for the colonists of Ulster was to consist of a series of crises, some of them so prolonged and severe that the very existence of the Scottish settlements were threatened. The trouble had two causes: religious exactions from England and native uprisings. Under the Jesuits the Irish people had become fervently Catholic; to them the Protestants of Ulster were heretics as well as interlopers. The native Irish resented the intrusion of Scottish (and English) interlopers on their ancestral lands, and their resentment exploded in 1641 in bitter insurrection.

      Between 1717 and the Revolutionary War some quarter of a million Ulstermen came to America. By the time the Great Migration began in 1717, a few Ulstermen were present in at least half of the American colonies, often alongside immigrants who had recently come directly from Scotland. It was when Ulster developed, in rapid succession, two new industries that the pinch came. Both woolen and linen manufacture grew apace in the closing years of the seventeenth century, bringing remarkable prosperity to Northern Ireland and arousing uneasiness among English competitors. Belfast, had arisen from the swamps of the Laggan Valley, giving Ulster a sheltered seaport for her growing trade. The competition of Irish cloth seemed unendurable to English cloth interests. At the Kings command, Irish Parliament in Dublin passed the Woolens Act in 1699, giving a crippling blow to the industry in Ulster. The substantial leaders of Ulster had put their primary economic faith in manufacture and trade, and their success in life now depended upon two unknown and uncontrollable factors: the arbitrary acts of the English Parliament and the ups and downs of the foreign market. A third and more immediate economic cause stimulated the first great migration of 1717. This was the suffering caused by rack-renting. The land question assuredly played a large part in driving Presbyterian Ulsterman to take the drastic step of removing to America. From rack-renting, whole villages lost their Protestant element by migration to America. The final blow was a succession of calamitous years for farmers. During the ‘teens, there were six years in succession that were notable for insufficient rainfall (1714-1719).

      The first migration, then was touched off by a combination of drought, rack-renting, diminished trade in woolen goods, depression, and also religious discrimination and “persecution.” When the fourth successive year of drought ruined the crops in 1717, serious preparations began to be made for a migration. Ships were chartered, consultations were held, groups were organized, and property was sold. More than five thousand Ulstermen that year made the journey to the American colonies. There were but two real drawbacks--the perils of an ocean crossing and the expense of that passage. The practice of indenture has long been a familiar device.

      There were five great waves of emigration, with a lesser flow in intervening years: 1717-1718, 1725-1729, 1740-1741, 1754-1755, and 1771-1775.

      In 1717, at least 5000 Ulstermen left Northern Ireland. Jonathan Dickinson reported from Philadelphia in 1717, that there had arrived “from ye north of Ireland many hundreds in about four months,” and that during the summer “we have had 12 or 13 sayle of ships from the North of Ireland with a swarm of people.”

      The second wave was so large, that not only the friends of Ireland, but even the English Parliament became concerned. In the Pennsylvania Gazette it was reported “that Poverty, Wretchedness, Misery and want are become almost universal among them; that...there is not Corn enough rais’d for their Subsistence one year with another; and at the same Time the Trade and Manufactures of the Nation being cramp’d and discourag’d, the laboring People have little to do, and consequently are not able to purchase Bread at its present dear Rate; That the Taxed are nevertheless exceeding heavy, and Money very scarce; and add to all this, that their griping, avaricious Landlords exercise over them the most merciless Racking Tyranny and Oppression. Hence it is that such Swarms of them are driven over into America.”

      The third wave marked, on the American side, the first movement of Scotch-Irish in any numbers beyond the confines of generous Pennsylvania to the southwest. Following the path through the Great Valley, many Ulstermen now went into the rich Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, whose southern extremity opened out toward North and South Carolina. The second wave had so well established the Scotch-Irish in the southeastern tier of counties in Pennsylvania, that their influence, even in political affairs in the Quaker commonwealth was becoming impressive. Famine struck Ireland in 1740, and was certainly the principal occasion for the third large wave, which included numbers of substantial Ulstermen. An estimated 400,000 persons died in Ireland during 1740-1741; for the next decade there was a tremendous exodus to America.

      The fourth exodus had two major causes: effective propaganda from America, and calamitous drought in Ulster. A succession of governors of North Carolina had made a special effort to attract to that province colonists from Ulster and from Scotland. Governor Dobbs of North Carolina, declared that as many as ten thousand immigrants had landed in Philadelphia in a single season, so that many were “obliged to remove to the southward for want of lands to take up” in Pennsylvania.

      In 1717, when the leases on the large estate of the Marquis of Donegal in county Antrim expired, the rents were so greatly advanced that scores of tenants could not comply with the demands, and so were evicted from the farms their families had long occupied. During the next three years nearly a hundred vessels sailed from the ports in the North of Ireland, “carrying as many as 25,000 passengers, all Presbyterian.” Thousands of the Scoth-Irish began their New World careers as servants. In 1728, it was estimated that “above 3,200” persons had come from Ulster to America in the previous three years, and “that only one in ten could pay his own passage.” Going to America came to mean, by the middle of the century, not launching out into a vast unknown, but moving to a country where one’s friends and relatives had a home. It offered the very exciting chance to own one’s own land, instead of holding it on a lease that might end in rack-renting; it meant a heady freedom from religious and political restrictions; it even promised affluence and social prominence to those who were truly ambitious. Every group who went made it easier for others to follow. and so by 1775, probably 200,000 Ulstermen had migrated to America.

      The southern provinces, Virginia and the Carolinas, were hardly considered, for the impoverished Ulstermen would seen nothing attractive in a region of plantations and slave-owning, where the Church of England was established. Maryland had been founded for Roman Catholics, was principally a plantation colony, and now had an Established Church; it was therefore no place for Presbyterians who wanted small farms. New York’s governors were reportedly hard on dissenters, and her lands up the Hudson were owned in great estates. Eliminating these, there remained the Middle colonies and New England. Reports from Penn’s settlements were enthusiastic as to the quality of land and the treatment of colonists; moreover, an invitation to settle there had come from the Secretary.

      The people who entered America by the Delaware River, found a land of the heart’s desire. Their enthusiastic praise of Pennsylvania persuaded others to follow them, and then still others, until by 1720 “to go to America” meant, for most emigrants from Ulster, to take ship for the Delaware River ports, and then head west. For the entire fifty-eight years of the Great Migration, the large majority of Scotch-Irish made their entry to America through Philadelphia or Chester or New Castle.

      With these towns as their starting point, and the western frontier their destination, the immigrants, as they poured in found their path of progress almost laid out for them by geography. The Great Valley lead westward for a hundred miles or more; then when high mountains blocked further easy movement in that direction, the Valley turned southwestward across the Potomac to become the Shenandoah Valley. From the southern terminus of the Valley of Virginia, it was a short trip, by the time the pioneers had reached it, into the Piedmont regions of the Carolinas, where colonists were now warmly welcomed. Within this seven hundred mile arc of back-country, therefore, from Philadelphia as far as the upper Savannah River, most of the Scotch-Irish made their homes.

      It would have been difficult to imagine anywhere, in the world of 1717, conditions more attractive to discontented inhabitants of the Old World, than those which prevailed in the province of Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, among the last of the original colonies to be founded, had by 1717 been proving for thirty years its stability and prosperity, its practical liberality and hospitality. Nothing like the generosity of its appeal was known in other colonies. Penn himself and his friends, set forth to Europeans the advantages of his province. Pennsylvania became the scene of an alternating and parallel movement of two peoples. The Scotch-Irish went to one part of a river valley, Germans on the other; the next year’s arrivals advanced beyond the settlements to repeat the process.

      To the three original counties of Pennsylvania, along the Delaware (Philadelphia, Chester, and Bucks) the proprietors thought it wise in 1729 to add a fourth, Lancaster. The Scotch-Irish followed the river valleys, keeping north of the disputed border line of Maryland. The provincial government organized still further counties as the frontier was filled up: York in 1749, Cumberland in 1750, and Bedford 1771, not to mention other counties to the north of Philadelphia.

      Chroniclers speak of the Scotch-Irish, who arrived in Cumberland during the decade after 1725 as folk “of the better sort...a Christian people.” It has been called the most important single Scotch-Irish center in America--”the seed-plot and nursery of their race...” Franklin County received its first Scotch Irishmen between 1728 and 1740, and York, whose initial settlers consisted of “families of the better class of peasantry,” between 1731 and 1735. It is said that no Scotch-Irish family felt comfortable until it had moved at least twice.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      "Ben Ami says: there is a growing fringe in Israel whose values are out of sync with those of the Jewish community broadly."...

      Yea, the Nazis were fringe too at first...and then they weren't.
      The revolutionaires in France were very fringe at first.....and then they weren't and Louie and Marie lost their heads.
      Castro was fringe .....and then he wasn't.
      The US Zionist were always fringe.....and now they have our WH and congress.
      Never underestimate fringes.

  • Division: Romney supporter puts kibosh on Wasserman Schultz appearance at Miami temple
    • American May 25, 2012 at 9:27 pm

      Wasserman Schultz's favorite statement re US and Israel is ...''America (we) has (have) a moral obligation to Israel"
      Google it....it's her standard opening line to Jewish groups...followed of course by ..."and we as a country will fulfill it."
      I'd like to have the opportunity to ask her how America acquired any ''moral obligation" to Israel.
      What the US public was willing to do for the Holocaust Jews they did out of human decency and sympathy, they had no national obligation to do it.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 11:50 am with 2 replies

      Zio Gestapo at work.

  • US to differentiate between 'personally displaced' Palestinian refugees and their descendants
    • American May 26, 2012 at 2:22 pm

      pfp,

      "“Who is a Jew?” has been argued for millenia amongst the most learned of Hebrew scholars without anyone ever reaching a satisfactory conclusion that defied further debate.""

      Well. ...er...shouldn't the failure to ever be able to define a Jew by your most learned scholars tell you something?..LOL
      There are only two legitimate ways to define a distinct people for ''world purposes'', legal purposes, etc.,etc.,...those are by race or country/nationality.
      Everything else, ..ethnic customs, culture, religion, etc,etc., are just sub groups or 'descriptions' within those two and stuff for sociologist and theologist to study, play with and publish on.
      You are right I am not hampered by complications and convolutions.
      You are....the contortions and distortions your group goes thru to try and establish Jews as some kind of official 'third category of People' is painful to watch.
      I think it's part of either your group narcissism or insecurity, probably both.....this millenia old study of yourselves to define yourselves. It's bizarre.
      You are a ''group'- some of you a religious group and some of you a zionist 'cult' group *within* the two definitions of what constitutes a People, you not a seperate People.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      And can they please come up with new slogan instead of "An attack on any of us is an attack on all of us.”

      They used that with the Jewish Holocaust was an 'attack on the world.'
      They used it with Islam is 'threat to the world and all of us.'
      They used it with Iran is "a threat to the world and all of us."

      There are very few groups or people in the world who could be less 'us' or less part of the world than the zios. They opted out of the world community long ago.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 8:33 pm with 1 replies

      Still looking at overseas political trends.

      Guardian has it right, deny people justice and fairness and they will get it by simpler and uglier methods.

      link to guardian.co.uk
      Rise of the far right: simpler and uglier
      Democracy matters. When Brussels or Berlin loses sight of that simple fact, voters reach for simpler and uglier solutions

      And what could be more typical than this. World Jewish Congress...who has done everything possible to create hatred of Muslims and Arabs in their self serving 'partnership" with the US on the GWOT and supported every Israeli atrocity....is now so worried about the rise of right wing anti-ethnics and nationalist parties that they have had to hold their noses and grab onto the Muslim skirt tails to decry...''we are in this together..all right wing parties have to be destroyed''.
      What they are afraid of is that Israel, Jews, Zionist will get swept up by the same foaming at the mouth national purist parties they helped create.
      Tell me these aren't the stupidest people on earth...they eat, sleep and breath the holocaust, they brush their teeth and gargle with it every morning....and yet?....they have no grasp whatsoever that once you foster tribalism, ethnic hatreds or resentments it spreads, you can't always control it or aim it like a smart precision bomb, it doesn't stay confined to one 'different' group or target, it's all differents.

      link to worldjewishcongress.org

      Muslims, Jews warn Europe: Mainstreaming of far-right parties is unacceptable
      07 March 2011

      Prominent Muslim and Jewish leaders from across Europe gathered in Paris have pledged to stand together against the rise of far-right xenophobic and racist parties that represent an escalating peril to ethnic and religious minorities across Europe, including Jews and Muslims. Members of the Coordinating Committee of European Muslim and Jewish Leaders, including top communal leaders from Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and the US, announced plans for a series of public events in European capitals, on 9 May (Europe Day). The leaders expressed deep concern about the emergence into the political mainstream of extremist parties in many European countries and declared that it was “totally unacceptable” that several of these parties had been accepted by governing coalitions as tacit partners where they are allowed to help shape the agenda.''

      Contending that “Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, xenophobia and racism must never be allowed to become respectable,” the leaders expressed disquiet over recent pronouncements by European statesmen including President Sarkozy of France, Chancellor Merkel of Germany and Prime Minister Cameron of Britain, characterizing multiculturalism as a failure; comments that have been cited by far-right parties as evidence that they are winning the battle for public opinion in Europe. Promising to press European decision-makers not to co-operate in any way with extremist parties, the Jewish and Muslim leaders vowed: “We will not allow ourselves to be separated, but will stand together to fight bigotry against Muslims, Jews and other minorities. An attack on any of us is an attack on all of us.”
      ‘’Citing studies which show that anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are both growing rapidly in countries across Europe, the communal leaders affirmed that “Jews and Muslims are equal stakeholders in Europe, not expendable guests, and must therefore enjoy the same rights as everybody else. Appeasing those that sow the seeds of hatred and division is not only morally wrong, but will have disastrous consequences for Europe if allowed to continue.”

      Well, all I can say to the WJC is, you called down the thunder boys, now ride the whirlwind.

      Or for the religious among us...Galatians 6:7, 8 - for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.''

    • American May 25, 2012 at 6:59 pm with 1 replies

      I was looking around to see what Zios are currently doing (using or meddling in) in other countries and found this example....interesting for the fact that ''The European Jewish Congress''... is actually trying to dictate to another country what kind of political parties they can have and what ones to 'ban'.

      link to timesofisrael.com

      ''European Jewish Congress pushes for ban on far-right Greek party
      Group urges ‘emergency measures’ to protect the continent’s Jewish communities from violent hate crimes''
      May 17 2012

      May 17, 2012, 5:16 pm

      The party in question is not a neo nazi party and did well in the recent elecions, it's mostly a right wing party against immigration that Israel calls 'far right' which it is or may be ...but so what?
      Hummm...telling another country what political parties they have to ban?....real gall.

      I was ruminating yesterday on how the world was trending into splitting into self protecting tribes and since there is currently no more well known or recongized or resented political tribal group than Israel and the Zios, how they think they will escape what they have sowed and helped sow is beyond me. Maybe the tribes will confine it to fighting it out in their own countries.....however if it gets big enough they could chose up sides like countries did in WWI and make it a world war....come to think of it, isn't that the Zios wanted wanted all along?...a world wide clash of cultures war.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 5:57 pm

      I particulary like this part....

      "Those eligible for the compensation are Jews whose freedom of movement was restricted in some way by the Nazis and their allies. Freedom of movement includes entrance to parks, movie theaters, and use of public transportation among others."

      Except for the Pilpul Truth they live by, how else could they ignore that at the same time they are demanding payment for Jews restrictions of movement 65 years after the fact, this is exactly what they currently doing to Palestines and have done it for 65 years.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm

      Fredblogs says:
      May 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm
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      So they don’t allow Holocaust denial, but they do allow existence-of-the-Jewish-People denial."

      Well count me as a "denier'. I only recognize Jews/Jewishness as a religious affiliation. ..tribal though it may be and despite the zionist takeover...Jewish is not literally a separate "people".
      There are no racial, cultural, ethnic or national 'peoplehood' ties between a African Jew or Asian Jew or Caucasian European Jew and so on.
      The only legitmate connection is religion.
      You're the one living in a house of myth beside the river of de Nile al.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 5:19 pm

      Total waste of effort to be anything but cynical re Israel-zionism...and waste to time to provide facts to the hasbara here.

      It's the famous 'Pilpul' thing..."What is Pilpul and why should I Care about It?"....link to huffingtonpost.com

      Pilpul is the Jewish scholars tradition of argument...meaning they 'make up' a Truth....and all issues/discussions revolve around that "Truth"..which cannot be denied.

      Pilpul Truth for the zionist is ...Jews are exceptions and more deserving than any humans on Earth..so no matter what the argument is ..this is the basis for their illogic, claims, arguments and so forth.

      As for instance in the refugee issue....simply put... they can't actually conceive of any people having rights except themselves, absolutely cannot grasp that idea.
      Which of course means no matter how many examples or evidence or facts you provide of their illogic or hypocriscy or contridictions between what they claim is law or just for themselves and not for others....it doesn't make a bit of different.

      You could post thousands of links of them calling for payments to Jewish refugees who left Arab countries 100's of years ago. Or 100's of articles about Israel suing for Germany to provide payments to "children of holocaust survivors". Or hundreds of articles where Israel has changed the ''definition'' of who is a holocaust survivor to try and up the numbers and get more money out of Germany. Or hundreds of examples like the one below of Morocco where even if Jews weren't living in Nazi Occupied countries, which was about the second expansion of survivor definition they made up, they just call them survivors anyway to extract money out of Germany or whoever they can.

      In the case of Moroccan Jews, Morocco was "Not' occupied by the Germans and French Morocco was aligned with the allies even as France was occupied. So the zios added another defintion to survivor....""any kind of discrimination"" such as 'not being allowed in parks". Jews were not deported from Morocco.

      "For the first time since the end of the Second World War nearly 70 years ago, thousands of Moroccan Jews will be recognized as Holocaust survivors and receive compensation from the German government..

      According to the agreement drafted over the last few days between the Claims Conference and the German government they will each receive NIS 13,000 ($3,800) in compensation.

      Those eligible for the compensation are Jews whose freedom of movement was restricted in some way by the Nazis and their allies. Freedom of movement includes entrance to parks, movie theaters, and use of public transportation among others.

      At the time World War II broke out, 260,000 Jews were living in Morocco. While Jews from Tunisia, Algeria and Libya were recognized over the passing years as Holocaust survivors and received compensation, Moroccan Jews were never recognized as survivors. So far, only a small number of Moroccan Jews who made aliyah to Israel before 1953 have succeeded in achieving recognition as Holocaust survivors and receiving compensation accordingly."

    • American May 25, 2012 at 2:56 pm with 2 replies

      Look, this move to defund Palestine refugees has been going since 2006 and it is entirely 'US Israel -Firster- Fifth -Column in Congress' led. Go to thomas or govtrack and look up all the bills prior to this one. They have been submitted and resubmitted every year for years .

      Their are multiple purposes in this.....

      # To reduce the official number of Palestine refugees because of the right of Return Claim.
      # To reduce the numbers of refugees in the event any kind of reparations would have to be paid in lieu of right of return.
      # To force the countries the Palestine refugee camps are located in to absorb them as citizens or as non citizen residents making them no longer "Palestines'.
      # To destroy any kind of identification with Palestine or movement aligned with Palestine among the refugees so they will not be a' unified group' and will have to seek out other ways of survival in other countries.

      IOW..erase Palestine and Palestines.

      Personally my vote would be to erase Israel- Zios and the Israel Firsters..the sooner , the better.
      Before they erase any more of the US or Palestine.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm

      "the only one in which the status of a refugee is hereditary"..Oleg

      LOL...are you kidding me?
      The Jews are now approaching their 'fourth generation' of ''inherited'' benefits for "some" Jewish refugees flight from WWII.

  • Turkish prosecutor recommends ten life sentences for Israeli generals behind Mavi Marmara attack
    • American May 25, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      "I keep waiting for that anger to be widespread and boil over into the realm of action." .... CloakandDagger

      Give it time....would bet my right arm Israel will push us to that tipping point...bound to happen.

    • American May 25, 2012 at 2:00 pm

      Never thought I'd say this but ...forget using the Law to get Israel and the Zionist and the Neocons.
      You're going to have to use the same tactics they use against others to get rid of them.
      And you are going to have to "completely'' wipe them out of the US government, destroy them and bury them, and I don't care how it's done.

      Because this what they have done and there are no rules of Law any more.

      May 6, 2002: US Withdraws from International Criminal Court Statute

      The Bush administration formally withdraws the United States from the International Criminal Court (ICC). In a letter to Secretary-General of the UN Kofi Annan, US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton writes: “This is to inform you, in connection with the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court adopted on July 17, 1998, that the United States does not intend to become a party to the treaty. Accordingly, the United States has no legal obligations arising from its signature on December 31, 2000. The United States requests that its intention not to become a party, as expressed in this letter, be reflected in the depositary’s status lists relating to this treaty.” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says, “The United States will regard as illegitimate any attempt by the court or state parties to the treaty to assert the ICC’s jurisdiction over American citizens.” The ICC dates back to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, and serves as the world’s first and most influential war crimes tribunal. The US did not become a signatory until former President Bill Clinton’s last day in office. [US Department of State, 5/6/2002; New York Times, 5/7/2002; American Forces Press Service, 5/7/2002; Carter, 2004, pp. 278; Organizations Coalition for the International Criminal Court, 1/2/2006] Bolton’s letter serves to both withdraw the US from the Rome Statute, which established the ICC, and relieves the US of its obligations under the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. That agreement prohibits the signatories of international treaties from taking steps to undermine the treaties they sign, even if they have not ratified them. [New York Times, 5/7/2002

  • Day after pogroms, Likud MK calls for internment camp for African refugees
    • American May 24, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      No, it was three other congresswomen.
      I had the story saved but had a hard drive melt down and lost a lot of stuff.
      I'll see if I can find it again.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm with 5 replies

      Philip, three US women congresspeople made a trip to Israel and saw the Palestine occupation first hand..or at least part of it...one was a black woman
      ( can't remember the names right now) but they all expressed shock and revulsion at what they saw Israel has done...especially the black legislator.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      That woman being thrown to the ground with her baby really gets me....what kind of people stand by and allow that?
      The violence of fanatics is out of control.....we've seen a bit of the same is some groups in the US.....one where a right winger protestor dumped a man in a wheel chair to the ground cause he was a "leech' on society. And we've seen it in AIPAC thugs manhandling women protestors.
      Bullies have to dealt with and the longer we wait to do it the more violent it's going to be when we finally do.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 1:04 pm with 6 replies

      Well I'm not going to get too holy than thou on this since the US also arrest and detains illegals although not as brutal as Israel no doubt would do.

      However the Israeli society pictured here and the fact the police weren't all that interested in stopping the mob reminds me how zios endlessly describe attacks on Jews by Germans..... and I don't see a bit of damn difference between Israeli society and the German society.

      I don't want to encourage 'ethinc cause morality' but since it appears the world is shaking out into ethnic tribes as a response to Israel zionism tribalism US blacks should get a good look at how Israelis treat these Africans....just because they are Africans.

  • Munayyer in the 'NYT': 'For all the talk about shared values between Israel and the United States, democracy is sadly not one of them'
  • Aaron Sorkin's anachronism
    • American May 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm with 1 replies

      I don't know about that. ..government and corps already have numerous ways to capture our data and track users activity.
      No one in my family is on Facebook, I discouraged it. Not because of fear of invasion of privacy but because it's just tacky to me to spread yourself out there like some public billboard. Guess I am old school.
      I have some friends that are on it and they use to send me emails saying go 'friend me' at Facebook. ..seems so ridiculous. ..more like what teenagers would spend time on.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm with 4 replies

      Oh come on....Mark Zuckerberg started out as a sleeze and you can't white wash that out.
      Some of us do care more about "how'' people get their money.....than how 'much' they have...call it old fashioned ethics.
      Zuckerberg and the Facebook operation started to smell a lot like a Enron to me some time ago.
      Let's see what comes out in the lawsuits and senate investigation into his IPO.
      I have a pretty good idea what they're going to find.
      And also a pretty good idea none of the "new' ethic-less Elite is going to be made to be made to pay for their malfeasance.

  • Video: Israeli mob demands all African refugees be deported from the country (and anyone who disagrees deserves to be raped)
    • American May 24, 2012 at 2:33 am

      Have we had any confrontations between the anti and pro immigrants crowd like that one here in the US?...I can't think of one off hand.

  • Honest broker? Israeli consulate sponsors Obama's former Middle East peace adviser at Stanford talk!
    • American May 24, 2012 at 1:46 am

      Damn...that's bad news.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm with 3 replies

      Greenwald has picked three good candidates, Solomon and also one runing in my state, although not in my district I am going to call some friends in Asheville and Henderson to see if I can get them to support him.

      Cecil Bothwell

      Bothwell’s western North Carolina political career is nothing short of amazing. An avowed atheist (he actually prefers the term non-theist), he was told he had no chance to win a seat on the Asheville City Council. When he won, coming in first place in the at-large race, religious activists tried to bar him from taking office based on the (obviously unconstitutional) North Carolina law disqualifying anyone from holding elected office who “shall deny the being of Almighty God.” When he announced his candidacy for Congress, he originally decided he would run as an Independent, and expected that he would be challenging the right-wing, Blue-Dog Democratic incumbent Rep. Heath Shuler, but when a poll showed Bothwell within striking distance if he ran in the Democratic primary, Shuler suddenly announced his retirement (to take a job as a lobbyistof course). That leaves Bothwell, now running as a Democrat, with a real chance to win.
      His views on Israel are as brave and commendable as any Congressional candidate in a long time who has a real chance of winning. Again, right on his own website, he vows that he “will not accept donations from AIPAC or any other organization lobbying for any other nation’s interest.” Then again, it’s highly unlikely he would receive any such donations, given his stated position on U.S. policy toward Israel:
      'We need to make our aid to Israel contingent on ending expansion of Israeli settlements in occupied territory, recognition of Palestine as a nation, and provision of adequate water to the Palestinian state. (The Six-Day War was principally a water grab.) We must sharply curb our military support for Israel as well. As I mentioned in an answer above, “the peace process” is a meaningless euphemism. As long as Israel is heavily dependent on U.S. aid, we have the leverage and the right to demand a swift resolution of Israeli/Palestinian issues. Obviously, we have not done so to date, or this question would be irrelevant."

      Here's Glen's full article on the three.....I hope this is a trend and we are finally getting some fed up step up candidates for a fed up public to vote for.

  • Avigdor Lieberman to Jews worldwide: 'You must love me'
    • American May 23, 2012 at 9:45 pm with 4 replies

      Wise choice yourstruly....
      Leiberman is such an imbecile....what gall to expect blind obedience to Israel by all the Jews. And how more stupid to say it in public.

  • Why 'Brand Israel' is failing
    • American May 23, 2012 at 6:10 pm

      "And if it understands all that, what does it plan to do about it?"

      LOL....Israel plans to do more of the same. Why shouldn't it? Who's going to stop them? Or do we need to just kowtow more to their paranoia and psychopathy and 'feel their victim hood pain' demands more to make them quit?
      They haven't "quit" their rampage for 65 years....65 years, their entire life time, think about that.......they aren't ever going to quit it voluntarily.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 5:52 pm with 1 replies

      Failing because the Brand has no substance?
      Which lets me sneak in a news flash about the Facebook 'brand"...better known as "hype".
      Facebook always smelled like another Enron to me because Zuckerman has been a sleazy schemer, not a business man, from day one.
      But really it's a disaster for the ignorant average investor out there.
      By the time the senate investigation into this is over I'm betting that what is revealed is that Zuckerman colluded with Goldman and their IPO bankers to make sure only the general investors not the big guys got stung..... because Zuckerman and the those who actually knew about the secret negative financials on Facebook made billions in their trades. I am equally sure nothing will be done about it and the investors are out their money. Zuckerman may take a powder to Singapore like his co- founder (co thief) of Facebook if things get too hot.
      I don't now what was in the negative report but it probably included the zillion lawsuits Facebook users already had against Zuckerman for knowingly allowing scammers and scammer ads on Facebook for nice fee.
      The thing is that Facebook did well enough to be what it was...but not more than that....but Zuckerman has the same mentality as the Enron dudes....which was if you can scam people, your users or your investors ......do it...stealing and scamming is what they call being sucessful in business.

      Zuckerberg promptly sold his 30.2 million shares, netting a quick billion dollars and change in the IPO....that should be a clue and tells you what he thinks of Facebok's ability to ever be worth it's price.

      Morgan Stanley Being Investigated over Withholding Facebook ...
      ‎AllMediaNY - 6 hours ago
      AllMediaNY - Morgan Stanley Being Investigated over Withholding Facebook Stock Information.Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg sued over stock float‎ Digital Spy
      Shareholders sue Facebook, Zuckerberg, Morgan Stanley‎ Computerworld
      link to abclocal.go.com
      Senate to investigate claims of mishandled Facebook IPO
      Updated at 01:33 PM today

      Facebook Founder Flees Fleecing
      Taxation
      Facebook co-founder (co thief would be more like it) Eduardo Saverin’s renounced his U.S. citizenship in favor of living in Singapore, to aviod taxes and probably whatever else blows up at Facebook.

      link to guardian.co.uk

      Facebook's stock has fallen as low as $30.94, or 19 percent below its IPO price of $38, and more than 30 percent from a peak of $45 reached shortly after it started trading Friday.
      The drop on Tuesday came after Reuters reported that underwriters had cut their revenue estimates for the stock shortly before the IPO, a highly unusual move.

  • Philip Roth on the Israel lobby
    • American May 23, 2012 at 11:48 pm

      Pardon me WJ .....but why do you think most of the Arab countries didn't actively join in the resistance to Israel ?
      Because Israel was so powerful?.. because they didn't think they could run the Jews out if they united against them?
      No, it was because the Un and US recognized Israel, in effect sponsored Israel...and they were well aware of the US zionist political influence.
      King Abdullah and other major leaders in the ME realized that was the real problem for them...otherwise the combined Arab world could have disposed of Israel easily.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 3:08 pm with 4 replies

      I don't think the guy from Kansas is happy to do it...he just doesn't know about it.

      But Israel has always been dependent on the US , no US hubris in me saying that, I'm definitely not proud of it, it's just a fact. And if the Lobby ever goes, there goes the US support. Because despite all the Israel mouth pieces hype and propaganda about how Americans support Israel all the majority of Americans have for Israel is wide spread indifference for the most part. ..the same indifference they have for most anything until or unless they think it affects them personally.

      Israel has been punching above it's weight on the US largess since it's inception...how long can it continue?...I don't know...but don't think it can
      continue forever.

  • Affirming a Judaism and Jewish identity without Zionism
    • American May 26, 2012 at 5:53 pm with 1 replies

      The lastest from MJ (Rosenberg). Sock it to them mj...lol.

      Blog May 25 2012

      My Letter From Obama: Dear Jewish Person

      Here is the email my fellow Jews and I received today from the White House. Please forward similar emails to other similar communities particularly those sent to Arab-Americans.

      Of course, other groups don’t receive these special ethnic missives either because the White House is not worried about their campaign donations. Or, perhaps the White House considers them to be AMERICANS and not as something else. In any case, this letter is just plain offensive and this is worse.

      The problem is that this administration’s entire view of our community comes from its AIPAC donor’s — and not from the Jews Barack and Michelle Obama knew so well in Chicago (all progressives, none Israel Firsters). And it is the AIPAC crowd this is really addressed to.

      I get it.

      But it is damn insulting. Jewish Americans are no less American than Catholics, Protestants or any others. Yes, we have particular concerns but as far as the White House should be concerned, we are Americans — not foreigners living amongst Americans. So, Mr. President, talk to us as if we were as American as our neighbors. Because, despite what you hear from AIPAC and the other Jewish organizations, WE ARE. And this is our country (with no close runner ups).

      One more thing. If you do want to write to us about the Middle East, write to us along with Arab-Americans. As the two American ethnic groups with a special interest in that part of the world, perhaps you should write us jointly. You could explain your policies to both groups because both groups are Americans and you are our president. You could help bring us together rather than treat me as your beloved godson and my Muslim friend as invisible.

      I know the White House no longer acknowledges Arab-Americans so that may be hard in an election year. Maybe in 2013. Think about it. Your predecessor did.

      Friends,

      We have had a busy month here at the White House. On May 4th, White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew addressed the American Jewish Committee Global Forum where he reiterated the President’s commitment to Israel’s security and to building a better world both at home and abroad. Later that week, Vice President Biden addressed the Rabbinical Assembly where he shared the story of his connection to the Jewish people and the shared values between the Obama Administration and the Conservative Jewish community.

      Last week, we heard from Ambassador Norm Eisen about his experiences serving as the United States’ Ambassador to the Czech Republic and his deep family ties to the country.

      On Monday, Vice President Joe Biden met with leaders from the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations and addressed the Administration’s support for Israel’s security and the White House’s commitment to a lasting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians.

      Throughout May, U.S. and Israeli officials continued a series of meetings between senior officials. Last week, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak was in Washington, D.C. for meetings with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. Earlier this week, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano visited Israel where she signed a customs agreement between the two countries.

      Chag Sameach,

      Jarrod Neal Bernstein

      Director of Jewish Outreach | White House Office of Public Engagement

      www.whitehouse.gov/americanjewishcommunity

      link to whitehouse.gov

    • American May 26, 2012 at 4:58 pm

      giladg,

      I do believe you are the naive one. Tell you what...go try to steal the land and homes of people who have the resources to defend and fight back.
      You think the Palestines have terrorized you?......you have no idea of what would fall on you if tried occupying anyone but Palestines.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 6:46 pm

      seafoid says:
      May 23, 2012 at 2:25 pm
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      I think for a long time Jew meant decent.
      Decent people believe in fairness and justice.

      And now ?"

      Never meant anything to me except 'of a certain religion' before my 'awakening' on Israel-I/P.
      But I don't know that much about Judaism, so I just assume it's probably no better or worse than most any other religion and has the same share of different kinds of characters as any other.
      I am sort of leery of very, very religious people or I should say people who base their ideas too much on religious teachings....they can be very good or they can be very bad and when they're bad they tend to be very, very bad imo. But then you could say the bad religious were whackos to begin with.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 6:30 pm

      "1. The Holocaust one: Jews need a territory in case in the US for instance, the white supremacist, KKK people come to power – you have to move several million American Jews to Israel. You need enough territory for them"...Krauss

      You can strike the holocaust rational, zionism began the demand for a Jewish state long before the holocaust. But it did give the zionist the necessary pressure to make Israel actually happen. And then Israel increased zionism.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 1:54 pm with 2 replies

      It is very powerful, true honest and painful for him I am sure.

      One thing here:

      "As a Jew I believe in the inherent dignity of every human being. As a Jew I believe that justice is the core commandment of our tradition. As a Jew I believe that we are commanded to be advocates for the poor, the oppressed the marginalized."

      I hope he is using "Jew' in the religious sense, similar to 'as Christians we must" and not the people- hood/tribal sense. If not, he's not quite out of the tar pit yet.
      I am against appealing to Jews on any group basis except that of their religion..to recognize or encourage Jewishness as a separate people or some kind of world wide nation of people is where their main problems stem from. It's an ego construct....being some kind 'distinct'. Looks like the US supremist and Zionism will probably have to learn their lesson on their 'specialness' together....the hard way most likely.

  • Passive-aggressive George Bush namechecks neocons for getting us into that mess
    • American May 24, 2012 at 2:15 am

      Powell wasn't really 'completely taken in...he just didn't have the balls not to be a' good little soldier' for his commander in chief. If you do your research you find plenty of instances when Powell threw fits over the neo's and zios and their OSP.
      But when push came to shove he didn't have the guts to spill the set up to the American public.
      Gutless piece of crap... didn't want to face being a pirrah in DC and never getting invited to any WH dinners forever after.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 2:06 am

      Sean...the left is as worthless as the right..and yea they were scrambling to take any heat or blame off the Israeli minipulations. They won't be able to to do that with the Iran war call...it's way way out of the closet now.

      I meant to come back and correct one thing in my reply to kathleen.....the US-Isr overthrow of Iran was one instance where the US did exert some control over Iran's oil but that was thru installing the Shah as their puppet ruler..... the US oil companies positions didn't change much there...but what it did was enable Israel to get oil from Iran, ...until the Shah was overthrow....then Israel was cut off.

    • American May 24, 2012 at 1:55 am

      annie, here, you can use this when you have 10 or so free hours to view all the timelines and every report about everything re Israel-Zionist- Iraq-Iran, who said what and etc, etc.. you can refine the search function to narrow it ...or you get 4000 pages of quotes by zios and Israeli mouthpieces on how we ought to bomb Saddam and Iran.

      link to historycommons.org

    • American May 23, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      I think Cheney thought he himself should be president instead of squirt Junior....can you imagine his distain for little George? Cheney wasn't shy and didn't discourage the DC insider perception/opinion that HE was the power behind the throne.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 8:39 pm with 26 replies

      kathleen, it wasn't pushed by the CEO of oil companies......on the contrary. ..they thought it would be destablizing and threaten their exisiting oil contracts and arrangements in other ME countries.
      To date the US has not been able to dictate to a oil country by invasion or war who they give their oil production contracts to.....not even in South America...it's done by bids from the companies..and in most cases lots of bribes to the ruling entity to announce their bid as the best one.
      These companies depend entirely on the whim of the ruling government....coups, upsets and invasions throw their profits out the window....and if they don't get along with the prevaling power they could be kicked out before they recoup their production investment. The day the US oil companies get the US government to invade a country for their oil interst alone will be the day the entire world falls on the US. ....Other countries have huge oil companies also.
      Look at who ended up with the most oil contracts in Iraq despite our invasion...China, France, BP, Russia, the US got some but not all.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 9:34 am with 5 replies

      Bush had no vision for his office. He was a blank slate and his advisers set the agenda "..dbroncos

      Exactly. Bush wasn't passive aggressive, he was just clueless.

      Bush had no agenda other than just to be President.....which was part of his wanting to be as good daddy and proving himself to daddy or as better than daddy. A real daddy complex there.
      Then he had his religious crutch which was a substitute for his alcohol crutch.
      Then there was his ego, tied to his daddy complex, wanting to be 'manly' and 'strong' in his presidential role.

      It wasn't hard for the ziocons and neo's to minipulate his weaknesses.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 9:19 am with 1 replies

      Let us not forget who Cheney's right hand man was ---Elliot Abrams.

  • March of the Flags
    • American May 26, 2012 at 2:57 pm

      I had an idea because it's time for me to renew my license plates, and checked NC personalized license plates to see if I could fit Palestine on a plate .....I can except for one letter, it only allows 8 letters...so I would have to go with "Palestin" and drop the e...wonder if people would recongize the meaning without the full spelling?
      Anyone got a suggestion of how to better fit it on?

  • Bill Kristol celebrates Republican Party purge of 'oldfashioned Arabists' Scowcroft, Baker and Bush I
    • American May 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm

      Dan,

      O.K.... I'm honestly not intending to pick on you and didn't see you were responding to a question.. ..my bad...pardon, pardon.
      Your comment .. May 24, 2012 at 2:08 pm above is well explained and makes it crystal...kudos.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 11:00 pm

      Arabist didn't have any negative connotation until the Zions started using it as an insult when describing the US State Department.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 10:50 pm with 1 replies

      I can see it coming now...soon we will have a new word..."Jew-ist" for those fellows down at Ayran Nation to use.....of course they don't like Arabs and Arabist either but they will pounce on "Jewist" to add sophistication to their rantings....soon we won't be able to tell them from the zionist intellectuals. LOL

    • American May 23, 2012 at 7:21 pm

      Dan,

      It's not our reading comprehension. It's that on the Israel issue you want to enlarge it to apply to 'Elitedom' in general...and that the Kristols are for Israel as part of their elite interest. The fact is very few US elites are materially profiting from the US-Isr relationship. It's made some Israeli business men rich and some War on Terriers defense contractor consultants rich but elite Jewish Israel firsters pour more money into influence for Israel they they get in any personal return or enhanced eliteness from.
      Now if you want to conflate elite Israel-firsters as a symptom of overall US Political Corruptism I will go along with that.
      We are discussing this one specific issue and you want to discuss overall inequity by the elite powers....you always springboard Israel influence into things like climate warming and economic policies and elitedom in general...that's the disconnect...for instance what does denial of global warming by elites have to do with Israel firsters?....are you saying they think global warming is good for Israel?

    • American May 23, 2012 at 2:03 pm

      Sean,

      Totally Agree.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 10:03 am with 21 replies

      Dan, I think you are mixing apples and oranges again. There is financial elitism and then there are Israel firsters......not all financial elites support Israel and one doesn't have to be a financial elite to support Israel.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 9:49 am

      Well Hostage, that's the legal definition, but as we know our laws and definitions don't even come close to dealing with the fact that these orgs are dedicated to one thing---Israel.
      If it were up to me I would expand the legal definitions of treason to reflect current political realities....that would get rid of a large percentage of our congress.

    • American May 22, 2012 at 12:30 pm with 3 replies

      There’s nothing wrong with acting as an agent for a foreign country’s benefit. It’s the fact that neither America nor Israel can be considered “a Shining City upon a Hill” these days."

      I would have to disagree with that. ..since they aren't registered as foreign Lobbies.
      Although it's all gone so far into Orwell Land it wouldn't matter to congress if they were recognized as foreign lobbies or not.

      I''m just gonna say again, and live long enough I hope to say I told you so, any county that makes it's policy dependent on the interest of a foreign country instead of it's own is asking for ruin.

      The US could probably handle a 'special relationship' with a country or countries that really are "like us" as people, such as Britain, who are at least somewhat equal to us as established powers and nations and don't have a parasitic dependency on us.
      But with zionist Israel?.... they aren't "like us", never will be...will never be a two way street of responsibility in that relationship.

    • American May 21, 2012 at 1:02 pm with 11 replies

      "The only way to beat Kristol is to build a coalition outside the Jewish community, to turn to the realists whom Kristol purged. Ben-Ami won’t do that. No, he is busy trying to calve Jews off the Kristol iceberg. He said again that he is not against AIPAC. This is a fight for influence, ...."

      Yeah it is a fight for influence...AIPAC claimed credit for latest Iran bill, then J-Street claimed credit for influencing the congressmen who got a "don't take this as right to attack Iran" amendment attached to it.
      J-Street is the 'lesser' of two evils but still......no matter what the differences between AIPAC and J-Street are, they both work the US government for a foreign country's benefit.

  • The Messiah's Donkey: Settlers fire on Palestinian villagers as the Israeli military watches
    • American May 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      Do you Shmuel believe that Jews as a nation have the right to their own
      country on the territory/part of the territory of what they call Eretz Israel?...Oleg

      No. What makes you think that outside European Jews, the Jews who weren't and arent' native to Palestine, have any right to settle Palestine?
      Your bible babble cock or your 'peoplehood' babble cock, your holocaust entitlement and all that cult crap?
      The Jews and Israel were a tiny grain of sand in the whole of ME and Palestine history.
      If I was into all the religious mumbo jumbo that goes on about Israel I'd probably join the Jewish religious sect that says God never meant for Jews to have any nation state because it replaces Judaism and
      G-D with Israel.
      The first Israel failed thousands of years ago...now your second attempt is failing also. Is there a clue here?

    • American May 23, 2012 at 12:47 pm

      Do Jews have the right to settle in Eretz Israel or don’t they ?" Oleg

      No, they don't.

    • American May 23, 2012 at 12:41 pm

      But violence will be met with violence"....Oleg

      Just remember that when you eventually end up on the receiving end.
      But you won't will you?......you will cry totally innocent victims being victimized.

    • American May 21, 2012 at 12:13 pm

      OlegR says:
      May 21, 2012 at 11:57 am

      Children as well ?""

      Well Oleg when you love your children more than you hate Arabs (and want to steal their land) you won't have to worry about your children.
      But as we see, you do hate Palestines more than you love your children.

  • Joe Pitts and ‘The Family’
    • American May 23, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      Sean,

      True. Watch any wild dog, wolf, etc, pack,...they will work as a pack to bring down their prey and then they have a pecking order for how the spoils are shared, often resulting in the alphas attacking each other or any pack member that doesn't respect the pecking order.

    • American May 22, 2012 at 12:06 pm with 2 replies

      I don't really think intelligence or lack of it has anything to do with it in the general population.....even a dummy can recognize when he's getting shafted once he has the right info.
      The goyim's problem is they are deliberately prevented from seeing the real story, they have no media to educate them or show them the bread crumb trail.

      In the case of the Zios and Christians zios I would say they are indeed using each other, both groups thinking they are smarter than the other group, the zios thinking they are manipulating the Christians for their agenda, the Christians thinking they are getting the zios to do the heavy lifting politically and $$$ wise. In cases like this where you have hubris and fanaticism in both groups they usually end up attacking each other at some point when their separate agendas reach a 'difference' point...particularly if they having success in their agendas, at that point any differences become critical and you have a power fight.

    • American May 21, 2012 at 11:43 am

      I read about this a long time ago. Christian neocons. Wonder why they are not in the lime light like AIPAC. Keeping a lower profile or just not as powerful?

  • This is the gang that is going to save the world economy?
    • American May 21, 2012 at 11:02 am

      Speaking of little tangible. I have been amazed at the 'social media' as the next big WS thing because there is no underlying value there unless you can sell it, as in charge enough for it. Market Hype does not produce long term profit.

      Facebook – Upside down

      On May 18, the Nasdaq IPO of Facebook made headlines around the world. The IPO price of its share was $38; yet, at the trade opening time it was traded at $42.43, it jumped to $43, and then dropped to the starting point of $38. The underwriters supported the stock at this level and caused it to rally back to $41.50. However, by the end of the day, the stock was barely above $38. At this price, Facebook’s market capitalization is around $81 billion. It was the third-highest IPO-day valuation in history, behind only the $19.7 billion raised by Visa in March 2008 and the $18.1 billion raised by General Motors in November 2010. More than 80 million shares changed hands in the first 30 seconds of trading. By the end of the day, around 567 million shares had changed hands. This set a new volume record for IPOs; the previous one was held by General Motors. These numbers are very impressive; however, there are clear hints that we have seen a very clumsy operation by Mark Zuckerberg; it seems he isn’t exactly what he claims to be.

      One way of understanding Facebook IPO is as an hysterical success, after all, Facebook barely makes any profits from its customers. Yet, most traders do not react directly to economic data; they speak about “support levels” and “expectations.” A company featuring bad economic data may still see its stock rise if there is a positive sentiment attached to it. Other way of analyzing Facebook’s IPO, is as a colossal failure. The underwriters were forced to support the stock during the trade, and at the end of the day it was barely over its base level. This creates a bad aura around this share that many expected to become the next Superman of Nasdaq. Business Insider posted a poll asking readers where they thought the $38 stock would be by the end of Friday. In the morning of the IPO day, 15% said under $35. The biggest cluster of respondents said somewhere between $40 and 55. 10% predicted the stock would reach over $90 a share. Facebook, ended the day at its starting price, below $40. Most investors will analyze this as disappointing, and would probably shun this new white-elephant. The company doesn’t sell enough, and the market sentiment towards it is not good. '

      Facebook breaks its IPO price, falls sharply in morning trading

      Washington Post‎ - by Hayley Tsukayama‎ - 25 minutes ago

      The Facebook debut was one of the most highly anticipated IPOs of the year, but it failed to wow investors on Friday, closing just 32 cents ...

      Why Wall Street's Usually Well-Oiled Machine Failed To Deliver Bonanza to Facebook's First-Call Big Institutional ...

      Forbes‎ - 1 hour ago
      Nasdaq trips Facebook, so what will investors say?

      CBS News‎ - 1 hour ago
      The Failure of Facebook's IPO - Forbes

      www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/.../the-failure-of-facebooks-ipo/
      1 day ago – It might sound a little strange claiming that a company which has just launched a huge IPO has in some way failed. Yet looking around at the...

      If anyone here bought this dog, sell it and cut your lose now.

  • Neocons in Washington Post: Military strike on Iran would 'calm nerves in the region'
    • American May 21, 2012 at 9:30 am

      Kroenig is a particulary replusive little ass, he 's an neocon intern being groomed by the old neo/zio/cons to be the next generation.

  • Aharon Appelfeld's rage at the German language (and Arendt's need for it)
    • American May 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm

      "To make it sound neutral, people say something like “He is Jewish.” instead of “He’s a Jew"

      I never understood why calling a Jew a Jew is a negative. It might be because in my early days, before I got all this education on the subject ..lol.., Jews were just people of the Jewish faith. I wouldn't say for instance a 'Catholic-ish' person every time I referred to a Catholic. Sometimes I say Jew and sometimes I say Jewish and really don't know why I alternate between the two, I guess it depends on how it fits in a sentence or whatever. I think this is 'bad pc' which makes describing someone as a Jew like calling a black a n**** or similar. It's like accepting or acknowledging that Jew is a negative thing and Jew and Jewish are the same thing so why this backward kind of pc on it?

  • Feeling the hate in Long Island
    • American May 21, 2012 at 8:51 am with 1 replies

      " It seems to me that the Republican party wants to exploit that discontent for electoral purposes, but will not actually do anything practical to help. "...... RoHa

      I think both parties do that. The repubs play to their 'niches' and the Dems play to their niches.....such is identity politics.

    • American May 20, 2012 at 3:04 pm

      LOL.....I love you Taxi.

    • American May 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm with 5 replies

      I don't know if I can establish a link here in what I'am about to say but I've been watching comments on a lot of news sites about the Fla. Trevor Martin shooting.
      The level of racism among whites is shocking, they are paying no atteniton to the facts, just the white, hispanic, black element, and the incident is spilling over into ranting about immigration and other issues . I think we are seeing the rise of some Anglo Tribalism....the idea that they are now the put-upon ones in America and entitled groups and minorities are getting special treatment at their expense.
      Some of the commenters expressing this attitude are ones whose discussions I have noticed on other issues and would never have guessed they had this attitude.
      I know this has existed among some, mostly conservatives, who think the country is going to hell in a handbag because of multiculturalism, but it seems to be getting bigger and more wide spread in the general public.
      We see this same opinion in the comments about Israel, that America's welfare is being ignored for a special group and a foreign country.
      A lot of this is all mixed in with blaming the 'elites', politicians, the minorities, immigrants, in Israel's case, the Jews and so forth.
      I don't know if we will see the rise of Anglo tribalism or nationalism like we are seeing in some European countries or not but there are definite stirrings out there in the public among people of more liberal persuasions you wouldn't necessarily expect it from.
      The danger is they do have some valid points in their complaints...the country is totally out of whack and there is no common good ideology so the conditions could give rise to more ethnic or national tribalism among the majority.

    • American May 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm

      Might be cherry picked, might not be cherry picked. We all know there are a certain % of Jews who do base their vote on Israel. It couldn't be any more out in the open than the ex NY Mayor Koch for example urging Jews to teach Obama a lesson on Israel by voting for a Repub. Then of course you have AIPAC who tells the Jews that US domestic issues aren't as important as Israel.

      A MESSAGE FROM AIPAC

      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

      There is too much at stake for domestic issues to be the only thing on the minds
      of our leaders in Congress.

      That is why as new leaders are elected to head to Washington this fall, we must
      ensure that from day one they are ready to tackle all of today's pressing
      challenges, from the growing threat of a nuclear Iran to the peace process and
      more.

      Dear Friend of Israel,

      I have no way of knowing who you will vote for this fall. I don’t know whether
      you’ll vote Democrat, Republican or Independent.

      But one thing I am confident in is this:

      You want every leader you elect to share your support for a strong U.S. - Israel
      friendship, because helping ensure Israel's security is just as important as any
      other issue this election.

      That’s why I'm writing to ask you to make a choice now that will be as important
      as the one you will make this November -- joining AIPAC. Join now and help us
      work with our current leaders in Washington as well as with the 113th Congress to
      make Israel more secure by ensuring American support remains strong.

      As you likely know, this election will surely bring many new faces to Congress –
      most of whom will be brand new to the issues our community cares most about.

      From the rising threat of a nuclear Iran to the Palestinians continued refusal to
      abandon their harmful U.N. campaign and return to peace negotiations with Israel,
      we must be ready to work with all members of the new Congress to tackle these and
      other challenges that lie ahead.
      Every single voice will count. And there is no better way to make your voice
      count than by joining AIPAC.
      That’s because AIPAC and its members work with Congress on more than 100
      legislative and policy initiatives annually. We are the only organization who
      meets with all 535 members of Congress and White House officials on a regular
      basis to ensure American support for Israel is always a top foreign policy
      priority.
      And when important legislation reaches the House and Senate floor, only AIPAC has the resources to mobilize our community around legislation that can affect the
      Jewish state.'

  • The awakening: Missouri paper runs a Jew's call for equal rights for all
    • American May 21, 2012 at 9:26 am

      "Stand with us to take back our country; we must get back on track. "...Lee Whitnum

      Amen to that. Send this woman money and tell her why.

  • Kristol: 'I don't see it as a huge problem'
    • American May 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm

      "I wish people would finally process that Israel has no intention of “absorbing” the West Bank Palestinians, just as they had no intention of absorbing the Gazans. Just think – what does it really meas that gaza is allowed to go on as an internment camp, indefinitely, as the world is standing by, doing nothing. To Israel it means one thing only – that they got away with “it”. ...Danaa

      I totally agree. If one can't look at year by year by year of 65 years of Israel and see the absolute true "nature" of zionism then they are blind or in denial.
      As long as the US supports Israel I think it is possible Israel can take over Palestine entirely and either transfer Palestines or make them a sub class of semi slaves.
      Where I think Israel will eventually end, is Palestine will not be enough for it. There is no end to their kind of messianic greed. After Palestine it will be something else and something else they want. Eventually they will go too far even for the US and have to be put down.

  • New US demographics make Israel's demographic fears seem all the more prehistoric
    • American May 19, 2012 at 1:49 pm with 2 replies

      "Diversity and appreciation of minorities are two trends that are bound to undermine America's special relationship with Israel, a relationship that itself is based on a sociological trend: the great Jewish inclusion in the establishment"

      I agree. And hispanics are our largest growing group. AIPAC is already on them and will use their usual techinque of selecting members of some minority group to finance for political offices in return for Israel loyalty or try to align with them under the guise of helping them as they did in the blacks civil rights. However I don't think that's going to work as well as it has in the past for several reasons. Hispanics are still working on their own economic advancement in the US which makes them more attuned to negative affects on the American applecart because it will affect them more as a "new" group. I don't think hispanic voters are going be to receptive to the Israel loyalty idea.

  • WaPo's Walter Pincus says US is 'going above and beyond for Israel'
    • American May 18, 2012 at 5:30 pm with 3 replies

      Some in congress are trying:

      [1]JStreet - The political home for pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans

      Just hours ago, those banging the drums of war with Iran were dealt a
      major blow.

      The House of Representatives declared unequivocally that nothing in the
      National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) authorizes the use of force
      against Iran. This declaration is the direct result of a bipartisan J
      Street-supported amendment led by Representatives John Conyers (D-MI),
      Keith Ellison (D-MN), Walter Jones (R-NC) and Ron Paul (R-TX).

      Additionally, scores of Members of Congress — including your
      Representative, Walter Jones - expressed their belief in diplomacy as the
      best means of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons by supporting
      an amendment offered by Reps. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and John Conyers. This
      amendment would authorize the appointment of a high-level representative
      for diplomacy with Iran, and eliminate the U.S. Government’s “no
      contact” policy with Iranian officials. J Street also lobbied in support
      of this important legislation, which garnered 77 votes.

  • U. of Haifa stops Nakba commemoration, as prof writes hate post calling for 'Many Nakbas'
    • American May 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm

      Citizen says:
      May 18, 2012 at 5:47 pm
      Mooser, what I’d like to know is how a significant number of Jews born and bred in the USA, especially in places like Brooklyn, can be conditioned to imbibe the highest American values, e.g., under 1st Amendment, the rest of the Bill of Rights, etc., and then rush to reject them all"

      Because they never imbibed the democratic values to begin with.

    • American May 19, 2012 at 1:08 pm

      Plaut was sued for libel by Neve Gordon, a faculty member at Ben-Gurion, for calling Gordon a Judenrat...Gordon won the lawsuit and Plaut was fined $50,000.

  • BDS victory: South Africa strips Ahava’s ‘made in Israel’ label
    • American May 20, 2012 at 2:58 pm with 1 replies

      I see no reason why all Israeli products aren't boycotted. Israel is responsible for the settlements.
      I won't knowingly buy anything made in Israel.
      BTW, don't shop at Target. I bought some undershirts there and didn't notice till I took them out of package they were made in Israel. I returned them.

    • American May 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm

      Ditto ...... WAY TO GO HARRY!

  • Killing Without Consequence: New campaign challenges Israeli impunity
    • American May 18, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      I don't use Islamfacist to describe oppressed Muslims...I used it to say any group can have or be fanatics. Use Taliban if you want, the ones who cut off women's noses and ears as punishment.

    • American May 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm

      They were no repentant Nazis at Nuremberg.
      Their only regret was they lost.

    • American May 18, 2012 at 5:49 pm

      There are some people you can't change.....be they Islamofacist or zionist or some other fanatic.
      What are you going to do with them to cure their psycho mentalities?...give them group therapy? Get them to agree to go some facility to be un- brain washed? Spend 20 years trying to so call "democratize'' them?
      And we're talking about the urgency of time here also....how long do your suppose, if it were even possible, it would take to change them?
      What do you suggest is the proper treatment to change Israeli zionist for instance?
      More tender loving care?

    • American May 18, 2012 at 11:17 am with 8 replies

      I don't think so either.
      It's not just Palestines that they think have no rights,....they believe 'only they' have rights.
      A friend of mine once told me (about something else) that I was trying talk ethics to someone that didn't have any.
      You can't instill any kind of ethics or morality in people who don't have any nugget of it to begin with.
      Can't be done. You can contain them or destroy them, but you can't change them.

  • Neverending Nakba: Israel breaks lull, attacks Gazan farmers
    • American May 17, 2012 at 9:52 pm

      "“When will this madness end?”

      When Israel and/ or zionism is destroyed. No one wants to hear that but that's the truth.
      You can't 'change' the essence of something and what you see is the essence of zionism.

  • In '92, AIPAC president raised $1 million for Bill Clinton -- and he supported the settlements
    • American May 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      I had come across the info about Katz exposing this before. Who is he and what does he do, anyone know? He was on the right track worrying about this group.

    • American May 17, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      Not surprised or shocked at all at this. Pretty much all of us who been around a while have seen similar stuff come out.
      Too damn bad info like this isn't shown and discussed all over our msm...if it was we would have a different, better country.

  • Dershowitz attacked from right for supporting two-state solution
    • American May 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm

      link to haaretz.com

      J Street's Ben-Ami: 'U.S. Congressmen live in fear of pro-Israeli intimidation'

      William Kristol, head of right-wing Emergency Committee for Israel, stuns debate audience in New York: 'I agree with Obama’s Israel policies to a considerable degree.'

  • Walzer says Jews were on the left because the left supported Jews
    • American May 18, 2012 at 12:28 am

      NYT

      By MARY PILON

      Published: May 17, 2012

      ''The International Olympic Committee has rejected proposals from the Israeli government and two United States representatives to hold a moment of silence at this summer’s London Games in memory of the 11 Israeli athletes and coaches who were killed by Palestinian terrorists at the 1972 Olympics in Munich.

      Last month, the deputy foreign minister of Israel, Danny Ayalon, sent a letter to Jacques Rogge, the president of the I.O.C., requesting a minute of silence 40 years after the Munich massacre. The letter was sent on behalf of Ankie Spitzer and Ilana Romano, widows of two of the murdered athletes, who have been urging the Olympic committee to hold a moment of silence at the Games for decades, officials said.

      Representatives Eliot L. Engel and Nita M. Lowey, Democrats of New York, also sent a letter to Rogge this month requesting a minute of silence during the opening ceremony at the London Games on July 27.

      “Unfortunately, this response is unacceptable as it rejects the central principles of global fraternity on which the Olympic ideal is supposed to rest,” Ayalon said in a statement Thursday. “The terrorist murders of the Israeli athletes were not just an attack on people because of their nationality and religion; it was an attack on the Olympic Games and the international community. Thus it is necessary for the Olympic Games as a whole to commemorate this event in the open rather than only in a side event.”

      LOL....will they ever get the message? ....the world is tired of them.
      I think the days of 'honoring' the Jewish victimhood, the poor Israel, and the whole cult is slowly coming to an end ....they've overdone this garbage to death.
      Faster please.

    • American May 17, 2012 at 10:08 pm

      - “Our anomalous status [being both a religion and a nationality] might make the world uncomfortable, but the world should just get used to it, Walzer said. There will be accusations of parochialism and disloyalty. We shouldn’t try and deny the anomaly so as to be liked; we shouldn’t be critical of ourselves …”

      Gawd....you just look at people like this in wonderment. The world doesn't care what they want to consider themselves. The world only cares if they cause the world too much trouble.

  • A London interruption
    • American May 17, 2012 at 4:55 am

      Oh there are Jews here, couples I've know for 40 years or more, they just dont care about Israel. First time I bought up the subject with my old Jewish friend who passed away several years go he was....''oh no, I don't even want to get into that crap!"...lol. Jews I know here are very, very different from what I see in Jewish activist on the net in the Israel issue. Most I know are intermarried, still religious though and go to Temple and all that, but that's about it as far the identity thing goes.
      I don't really bring Israel up with them because I see they don't want to be associated with or connected to the whole mess in any way.

    • American May 17, 2012 at 4:03 am

      Oh, there are Jews here...known some couples for 40 years,
      a long time, but none that care about Israel. Get this pained headache look like 'can this please just go away' when it was brought up..
      They are religious, go to temple and all, but that is the extent of their being Jewish. None have been to Israel except one who after his divorce from his first wife, who was Jewish also, she kidnapped their son and took him to Israel and he had to
      move Washington and a dozen lawyers and go to Israel to get him back...it was a real mess but he got him back and got sole custody because she was really mentally disturbed.
      I don't know, the Jews I know just aren't into the Jewish identity and zionism thing. Very, very different from the Jewish activist types I see on the net around the Israel issue. I don't bring it up with them any more because I see they don't want to be associated, as Jews, with the whole Israel mess so it would be insulting to them for me to make it a topic of discussion with them. ......like well ''since you're Jewish'' what do you think'. ... singling out their opinion just ''because' they are Jewish.
      Could be because they are all mostly intermarried, born and raised here, families been here for several generations .....they just aren't into Israel and the tribe thing.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm with 3 replies

      I live in the wrong part of the country, I can't find a single Jew to have an argument with about Israel around here....none of them give a s*** about Israel. I did have a semi-altercation with a christian history teacher in- law of a friend of mine....I think I won...she started dribbing spit and walking in circles and finally wandered off.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 6:58 pm with 1 replies

      Was a trimuph against British imperialism?????...LOL that is too funny.

      They don't think it was British 'Imperialism' that gave the Zios some Arab land..like well. ''we can move countries and people around to suit out own needs and problems.''
      So the zios have to thank British Imperilism.
      Do they know what Imperialism is? LOL..doesn't sound like it...

  • American's cartoon on Israeli site shows Netanyahu cannibalizing Obama and compelling him to service him sexually
    • American May 16, 2012 at 3:02 pm

      It is sort of out there ....but only sickening because it's so accurate about OBUSA- NettieIsr.
      Frankly though I think it's great.....the situation needs to be portrayed by showing it as sick and disgusting as it really is.

      Ridicule is a great tool.

  • It will be easier for our movement of subcultures to change the US than to change Israel -- Sarah Schulman
    • American May 16, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      Very interesting conservation between you and Sarah.....very sharp, both of you.
      I think she is right about subcultures..and if they put 'brutally honest',not mealy mouth typical pc displays out there in our political faces they can be very powerful.

  • More 'magnet than a mallet': RAND Corporation warns against striking Iran
    • American May 16, 2012 at 4:38 pm

      If the US policy was run on stragetic pragmatism we would make Iran a US ally.
      Enough of this 'you can't be friends with me if you're friends with so and so'....ME teenage politics.
      Iran want recognition they think they are due as important ME state, give it to them, much easier to influence and get along with that way.
      Be a hell of lot better ally and less of a trouble maker than Israel that way.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm

      If you don't ever save anything else from AIPAC, save this mail they sent out today.
      Could not be any plainer what they are.

      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

      A MESSAGE FROM AIPAC

      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

      There is too much at stake for domestic issues to be the only thing on the minds
      of our leaders in Congress.

      That is why as new leaders are elected to head to Washington this fall, we must
      ensure that from day one they are ready to tackle all of today's pressing
      challenges, from the growing threat of a nuclear Iran to the peace process and
      more.

      Please help by becoming a member of AIPAC today. [ link to action.aipac.org
      ]

      Dear Friend of Israel,

      I have no way of knowing who you will vote for this fall. I don’t know whether
      you’ll vote Democrat, Republican or Independent.

      But one thing I am confident in is this:

      You want every leader you elect to share your support for a strong U.S. - Israel
      friendship, because helping ensure Israel's security is just as important as any
      other issue this election.

      That’s why I'm writing to ask you to make a choice now that will be as important
      as the one you will make this November -- joining AIPAC. Join now and help us
      work with our current leaders in Washington as well as with the 113th Congress to
      make Israel more secure by ensuring American support remains strong.

      As you likely know, this election will surely bring many new faces to Congress –
      most of whom will be brand new to the issues our community cares most about.

      From the rising threat of a nuclear Iran to the Palestinians continued refusal to
      abandon their harmful U.N. campaign and return to peace negotiations with Israel,
      we must be ready to work with all members of the new Congress to tackle these and
      other challenges that lie ahead.

      Every single voice will count. And there is no better way to make your voice
      count than by joining AIPAC.

      That’s because AIPAC and its members work with Congress on more than 100
      legislative and policy initiatives annually. We are the only organization who
      meets with all 535 members of Congress and White House officials on a regular
      basis to ensure American support for Israel is always a top foreign policy
      priority.

      And when important legislation reaches the House and Senate floor, only AIPAC has the resources to mobilize our community around legislation that can affect the
      Jewish state.

      But we can’t do any of this without your help. So if you care about how American
      legislation and policy can help or hurt Israel, please join AIPAC today.

  • Green Party candidate for President calls for end to Israeli apartheid
    • American May 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm with 2 replies

      ''I’d be willing to bet that she’s Jewish''...lysias

      Could be...we just need to be sure she's a good Jew as opposed to zio Jew...lol.. nothing discriminatory about that, we would do the same on some christian candidate's ideology that might influence his politics.
      She looks good to me, haven't seen anything I don't like about her or her positions.
      I'd vote for her, particulary if she made Roseanna Barr her VP running mate...seriously, I would ..and don't ask me to explain my attraction to Roseann, I can't explain it...lol.

      Jill Stein on Foreign Policy
      Former Green Challenger MA Governor

      Start holding all parties accountable in Israel/Palestine
      Q: What's your stand on the Israel/Palestine conflict and US foreign policy more generally?
      A: Israel/Palestine is a microcosm of broader US foreign policy principles, and our foreign policy needs to come into harmony with principles of human rights, nonviolent conflict resolution and a respect for international law--which haven't been there at all in Israel/Palestine and more globally. So, in Israel/Palestine, we need to start holding all parties accountable. All of the various factions responsible in Palestine and in Israel, for stopping human rights violations, so that assassinations are not accepted, so that apartheid is not accepted etc. We need to ask all parties to come up to the same standards of respect of human rights. We need to stop, in particular, being Israel's enabler of being the more powerful prohibitor of human rights. Occupation is unacceptable.
      Source: Interview with Steve Horn of Truthout.org , Jan 29, 2012

      US should behave as member of world community, no world cop
      Q: When you think about the US pursuing its interests abroad, how much should the US listen to other countries? Are you a unilateralist or a multilateralist?
      A: On that scale, a multilateralist. We cannot afford to be the unilateral policemen of the world enforcing our own interest. We are a member of a very integrated world community and world economy and we need to behave accordingly.
      Source: 2011 AmericansElect interview questionnaire with Jill Stein , Dec 21, 2011
      Principle position, 4-Point "Green New Deal"
      Stein's principles are directed towards voters of every political party and independents:
      The right to a job at a living wage.
      The transition to a sustainable, green economy.
      A financial sector serving Americans.
      Citizen empowerment.
      In Stein's words: "We don't need to run America like a business or like the military. We need to run America like a democracy

      link to indybay.org

      Green Party Presidential Forum (Sat 5/12):
      Roseanne Barr, Jill Stein and Kent Mesplay

  • Nobel Prize laureate J. M. Coetzee appears to boycott International Writers Festival in Jerusalem
  • Peter Beinart's cognitive dissonance on 'threats to Israel's demographics'
    • American May 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm

      MH....

      I think you would change your mind about the religious aspect in the birth of zionism if you read Herzl..the Father of Zionism. He had and wanted nothing to do with Judaism 0r any religion at all. In fact Jewishness didn't hold much allure for him or concern him until he joined some political party and was shocked at it's anti semitic -Jewish.stand...that's where his interest started initially.
      His is a sad story in a way, his mother was mentally unstable and he was subject to bouts of depression. Then his family had tragic endings , his daughter died, his son suffered depression and killed himself. I said before I don't he was mentally stable all the time cause some of his writings and plans about how the Jewish state should be were how kind it would be to others, but then he would turn around and describe how Jews would have to move the poor off property to make room for themselves and so on without missing a beat, like there was no contridiction. The flights of fancy about the goodness and then the contradictions in the details is sort of schizo. In some of his statements you see the touch of supremacy, the flights of fancy...like they are going to be some great benevolent rulers dispersing light and kindness on the world, no doubt he thought that was part of his plan ......but still he doesn't connect it to religion in any way.
      Anyway read this and use the links in the Wiki bio to read his papers.
      He plainly says it is about Jewish Peoplehood, he calls Jews One Nation based on 'being Jews' not based on Jews following Judaism.
      It was never religion that got zionism off the ground, it was definitely the belief that anti semitism couldn't be defeated and the belief that Jews were a distinct people aside from Judaism.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

    • American May 15, 2012 at 7:19 pm

      Born out of?....no I wouldn't say it was born out of that in the very beginning. ..least not from what I have read about it's origins although I don't think Herzl was exactly a stable person in the mental department.
      It's not the call for the Jewish 'separation' in zionism...there are other groups that live separate, or mostly or somewhat apart, from other's society for various reasons like religion, some Quakers and so forth.
      But the 'us vr others', the we eternal good victims, the world eternal bad evil others, part the call for separation in zionism was based on, the non Jews - the world as 'eternal enemies'.... that was guaranteed to go wrong.
      Because .....they didn't really go live separately unto themselves, for peace and protection and preserving their culture and religion, did they?
      No they didn't.
      They involved others outside their tribe, affected others outside their tribe, made demands for their tribe on the outside world, even before the holocaust boosted the idea of a safe haven for Jews, stupid as that idea was and is in reality.
      I don't know what to call zionism as it turned out to be except the longest running criminal con game and racket ever played on the world and on the Jews too for that matter...maybe particulary on the Jews cause many of them don't see it for what it really is.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm with 1 replies

      Well I gonna give up banging on this wall also....the one where some people believe that "liberal" zionist can have an effect on Israel gov itself....I don't see that happening. ''IF'' liberal zios had an effect on the US congress on the other hand, you might see some improvement, but still you wouldn't see anything close to a 'fair' settlement. Palestine would get the tiniest piece of the hind end of any deal the US pushs for I/P.

      Only thing I've seen so far that has the zionist worried at all is the BDS movement because it's delegitimization of them 'world wide' and could pick up even more world wide steam and support with the apartheid label.
      But even this worry hasn't slowed them down in expanding and seizing land.
      Why? Because as long as they 'own' the US congress and politics on Israel no one is going 'do anything' to stop them...any time soon anyway. ..that is their sole ace in the hole for everything they get away with.
      I don't know who I despise most, Israel or the US congress. I guess really they are the same thing.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 2:00 pm with 2 replies

      "The right of return exists, but its future implementation will involve a balancing act, a historic compromise between the two major groups living in historic Palestine. Both sides recognize this. Both sides are haggling over the details"

      Total bs. Israel isn't haggling over anything, it's marching right on eating up Palestine making their state impossible.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 1:53 pm with 13 replies

      Beinarts statements featured above show how two faced the lib zio position is....'oh yes we so regret'' on one hand.....but then..." a number that would not seriously threaten Israel’s demographics.''

      I have no use for the zios of any stripe or any of the bs about Israel's purpose being a safe haven for Jews.....it's clear what Israel is about and that isn't it...it's about domination and greed, that's all.

  • Report: Palestinian prisoners reach deal to end historic hunger strike
    • American May 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      ''and a halt to an Israeli policy of "administrative detention," under which suspected militants are held for months, and sometimes years, without being charged. Israel has defended the policy as a necessary security measure.''

      How convenient it would be if we could put Israel firsters and Israel under indefinite ''administration detention'' without charge as necessary for US and ME/world security.
      Since the US has adopted or at least used Israeli practices as the example to pattern ours on I wonder if we will end up like the Israelis....to the point we consider all other-others as suspect and enemies including the Israelis themselves. I have thought about what all this could culminate in when looking at the European rise of right wing ethnic nationalist/seperatist the uber zios are in bed with. Both parties to that believe they are superior to other ethnics..the Ayrans believe they superior to non Aryans which includes the Jews, and the Zios believe that Jews are superior to Aryans...so even if they suceeded in this joint venture of reordering their countries or the world they would still have one final battle--getting rid of each other.

  • AIPAC's Iran resolution (What if Congress had told JFK he couldn't 'rely on containment' with Soviets?)
    • American May 15, 2012 at 8:59 am

      "Again, the policy promoted in this legislation is supported by the American people"..hoppie

      Evidently you don't read the polls...the American people are very much against attacking Iran and getting involved in the ME...they want out of it all.
      Yea, I know you want to pretend the American people support you. Every population has it's share of raving fanatics and retards, don't mistake those for the majority.

    • American May 14, 2012 at 7:20 pm with 1 replies

      You have to see this. New film on the Christian Zio Evangelicals. Between the Zionist and the Evangelicals we may have the perfect storm that ignites an armageddon. Consider we have a AIPAC congress and all it would take is a lunatic religious or Evangelical type to get elected US President and we're in serious, serious trouble. O.K. this is scary, I 'm gonna have to get out and support Obama.

      link to waitingforarmageddon.com

    • American May 14, 2012 at 2:49 pm with 5 replies

      Dan,

      What's the benefit to Obama, or what benefit does he see for the US, in bombing Iran.
      In the list of pros and cons there are about 100 cons and only one pro...that single pro being if Iran gets nukes it will start nuking Israel and then the world.
      And no serious, sane and knowledge person within or without the US agencies even believes that one.
      So where's the benefit Obama sees?

    • American May 14, 2012 at 11:40 am with 6 replies

      Insane, that's all I can say.
      Congress absolutely is pushing a war for Israel.
      Boggles the mind doesn't it..that the US congress works for a foreign power and a fifth column in the US in exchange for money. No denying it.
      Just boggles the mind.
      If it weren't for all innocent dead that would occur in this I'd say go ahead...bring us Americans to our knees for Israel, destroy the economy, put us in debt for centuries, make it so bad we have no recourse but to burn this corrupt government to the ground, make an example of these traitors and start over.
      That would be better than a slow death Palestine style.

  • 'Orgy in the desert' fails to wed young Jewish woman to Zionism
  • Pogroms -- Palestinian teachers and veterinarian have their cars taken away from them
    • American May 14, 2012 at 11:04 am with 1 replies

      Yes....'' destroying a group in whole or part''....''imposing conditions intended to"...it's all spelled out in the Geneva genocide definitions.
      Genocide lite.

      If someone made up a list of every action like this taken against Palestines that fit the intent to genocide definitions it would be miles long. I don't know how the Love Israel people live with themselves knowing what goes on. I really don't.

  • The neocon machine
    • American May 14, 2012 at 10:44 am

      "The Obama administration, despite rhetorical hedging, seems to recognize that war is neither necessary nor wise."

      I hope this holds.
      When Walts say the 'entire' Israel lobby isn't behind it I assume he is referring to that "loose collection of Pro Israel" not just AIPAC because AIPAC has been behind all the resolutions and bills congress has pushed on this. On the AIPAC site and in their alert mails they are always urging members to call their reps and tell them to vote for those bills and resolutions.

  • On the sidewalk in Hamburg-- 'Hier wohnte'
    • American May 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm

      I am glad Oleg comments here.....he is the real face of zionism....everyone needs to see it.
      Although he is so repusive I have wondered if he's a anti zionist agent of the opposition to make Israel look even worse.....if so, he is doing a great job.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 11:55 am

      "We have to remember that Hitler came to power – among other reasons – because he invoked the specter of the Bolshevik barbarians taking over Germany. And there was some factual basis to this " .... Klaus

      That's true and hardly anyone ever mentions this. Or the fact that other world leaders in Europe were also looking at the Bolsheviks in Russia as a threat. BBC has some good historical background on how the Bolsheviks influenced Hitler and how he was convinced that Jews were responsible for it in Russia and might do the same in Germany. But then Churchill also blamed the Russian Jews primilary for Bolshevikism. Some of what I have read suggest that one reason Hitler wasn't rejected early in the game by other world governments was because he was seen by some as a ally against Bolshevism and communism.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 11:33 am

      " Yet only the Jewish idea of exceptionality gets so much attention and publicity."

      There are obvious reasons for why it gets singled out....it's not like there are some Jewish individuals who believe in their own individual superiority and keep it to themselves or among themselves. What has happened is those who believe this have made it a ''Brand' for Jews and publicly promote Jews to the world as superior to others.
      There is a 'cult' following of this idea that is mixed in also with the victimhood exceptionalism in zionism and Israel. ..it's not unusual to see zionist claim that anti semitism occurs because lessers resent or are jealous of Jews superior talents, etc,etc..
      It's the group cult that attracts the attention....because it is a group with some power and because of the Israel and zionist behavior which represents this idea of superiority and exceptionalism.
      If there were a organized group of Gentiles or non Jews prancing on the world stage doing/promoting the same thing they would get the same attention.

    • American May 16, 2012 at 10:33 am

      "A unique kind of evil"

      No , not really. People been doing that to the other since time began...still doing that to other people.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm

      Well I'm gonna stop banging my head on the Oleg zio wall.
      Not worth it.
      Its' like the saying about wrestling with pigs, all that happens is the pigs love it and all you get out of it is a wallow in the mud.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 11:12 am

      "OlegR says:
      May 15, 2012 at 10:44 am
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      Well Klaus we don’t remember the Holocaust for the early years
      now do we?''

      Yeah we do remember the early years. The early discrimination and persecution are the red flags for what those mentalities can end in.
      If we had had the international laws WWII inspired and the humanitarian laws before instead of after it's possible the world might have intervened sooner on Hitler based on those laws.
      But those laws are now what Israel spits on.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 10:30 am

      More to the point what i am asking is, if you are honest with yourself
      do you think that the need to criticize Israel stems from some attempt to
      free/cleanse yourself from the Nazi past or from a
      completely independent solid moral ground
      of an impartial bystander"....Oleg

      Really.. you aren't to get anywhere on the guilt thing. Ask me as an American if I feel guilt for the holocaust or that America has any guilt in it...my answer would be no to both. The people who did it are guilty. Klaus has no reason to feel individual 'guilt' or for his father, his father did what 99% of people do when their country gets into a war.
      People can feel some 'shame' that one's 'country' acted as it did... a lot of us feel shame or horror at some of the actions of our countries..but even then we know that those actions aren't instituted by ALL the people of that country.
      You know looking at your comments here is really looking into the core of zionism.....it's fascinating because to outsiders it is so clear how it works. ...the world hates you and you hate the world....but your hate is a good hate so it must be accepted. The world's hate for you makes it responsible for you, but your hate doesn't make you responsible for anything. So messed up.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 8:43 am

      So on another thread Oleg hit the roof because I compared the Gaza Ghetto to the Warsaw Ghetto but it remains a valid comparison and Israel is currently where nazi German was in the pre-war ‘pre-exterminist’ years – and heading along the same path"...Sumud

      I don't think we can deny the similarities in the "mentality" of the nazis and the zionist. I believe the uber zios would absolutely like to wipe out the Palestines completely and the only thing stopping them is they haven't yet found a way or the conditions under which they could to that in one fell swoop and have the world accept it. So they do it a little bit at a time under the security excuse.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 8:19 am

      "I think Americans eventually are going to face questions about what they or their ancestors were doing during the War on Terror"...lysias

      From the tripling of the suicide rate among soldiers who have served in Iraq I'd say we're already having to deal with it....or at least their families are having to deal with it.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 8:14 am

      "I draw a few moral lessons.
      We the Jews need to be able to protect our selves, nobody else will…
      The world is largely indifferent to human suffering.
      Human beings can be incredibly cruel to each other and incredibly ingenious
      in finding ways to be cruel to each other.
      There is no God.
      Never again.
      What is yours?"........Oleg

      Well that is stupid. You weren't in the holocaust or anywhere near it and yet you use it as an excuse for your naturally selfish character.
      Every time I see a pretender like you as opposed to some of the real survivors who are speaking out against the Palestine's Never Again it just reminds me it is all in the individual....if you couldn't claim the holocaust for your attitude you would find some other excuse for it.

    • American May 15, 2012 at 7:47 am with 1 replies

      Thanks, just ordered it.
      That's an aspect of the war, what the children went through, that isn't recongized enough.

    • American May 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm with 3 replies

      Here is an article I noticed in Salon that I want to post for Jews who actually do have some kind of trauma or inherited trauma over the holocaust.
      The 'pretenders' who just use it for their own 'aren't I special' and political reasons can ignore this. It's similar to what I've been saying about hanging on to a aberration/abnormality in human history, not matter how horrible it was, and letting it define and shape your life and future.

      Augusten Burroughs: Conquer trauma by letting it go
      Salon exclusive: The best-selling memoirist says past horrors haunt us because we think about them too much. Stop.

      (excerpt)....
      'You must never allow something that happened to you to become a morbidly treasured heirloom that you carry around, show people occasionally, put back in its black velvet pouch, and then tuck back into your jacket where you can keep it close to your heart.
      Then, when asked to join the pole vaulting club, pull the coach aside and whisper, “I can’t. See” — and remove your gem from your pocket — “this is my terrible thing and as I expected, showing it to you has taken your breath away and made you sympathetic. So I will be excused, I assume?”
      Other people will allow you — they will never blame you or challenge you — to use your past as an excuse to not face the normal fears everybody has when facing their future.
      Even if you were brutally physically assaulted, you must not withdraw because you are afraid it will happen again. This is not a valid exit.''

      link to salon.com

    • American May 14, 2012 at 6:08 pm with 3 replies

      Come to think of it Oleg, you must have served in the IDF, do you still?

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