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  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • No one says 'collective punishment' is right.
      Its a alternative to a shooting war, invasion , outside forces overthrow most of the time.

    • Rosenberg has now even labeled annie a anti semite for a comment she made. I've taken him out of my 'just screwed up' liberal zionist column and put him into the pro Israel we hate everyone column. 3 of every 5 tweets he makes is about 'who he hates'...which is everyone and anyone who doesnt 'actively' support Israel no matter what their reason is for not supporting it.
      Even people who are netural on 2s or 1s are hate worthy because *he knows* that their 'real goal' in not demanding 2 states is to destroy the Jews home .
      link to

    • Page: 85
    • Ridiculous.
      Just more of the ---must find some self hating Jewish critic or any kind of critic of US Zionsm or Israel to blame for one lone psycho killer's actions.
      Attempt to censor and intimidate critics is all this smear job is.
      The message being that if you criticize Israel and its minons you will be responsible for enabling killers.

  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • As I thought.
      Schumer tried to pass it off as concern about Israelis selling their wares in malls.
      From Isr helpers stealing US nuclear materials in the 50's thru everything else they done for 65 years the intelligence agencies are rightly leery of Israelis, especially now and no doubt have emphasized this to the congressional committees. As in..if you let them in and something happens .....its on your heads, not ours.

    • brenda says:

      I think Obama is the man in the arena. >>>>

      I am all for you're being right..but like I said the first step is to cut off the US money.....and congress is busy, busy every day funding even more special projects for Israel and Obama keeps signing off on them.

    • 'There is still a part of me that wants to believe that Kerry/Obama expected this smashup, and perhaps, were counting on it to launch the next step'...C&D

      I would like to believe that but dont. The next ten years of US aid to Israel is already signed onto. Ceasing US aid being the first step to the next step.
      So I dont see a next step, I see a giving up and ignoring...the Lobbies corruption is too deeply embeded.
      The corrrect steps would be to cease aid immediately, institute sanctions on Israel then start 'secret talks ' with the EU countries on military plans to remove all Israeli illegal settlements. And do all those steps at the same time to let Israel know this is 'the end of the line'. Word of consideration of and plans for military force in event the withholding of aid and sanctions doesnt work would get back to Israel and then they either capitulate or make their last stand.
      However it would take a US president with balls to actually implement this. The irony is the same excuse Israel uses, their 'national security' would also work if a US President used "US security' it as the rationale for clamping down on Israel.
      Obama 'insinuated' this rationale earlier but didnt go farther than that.
      Perhaps a future President will.

    • Can someone tell me what giving the Israelis another three years will accomplish?
      Besides eating up more of Palestine.
      These calls to give Israel more time, for more debate, and for reforming itself are ridiculous and the typical 'postponing' of ever bringing Israel to account or correction.

  • Roger Ailes demands NY village official take down 'Facebook' post. She says no
  • 'Secret' London conference seeks to link BDS to... terrorism
    • '“We will draft and lobby for legislation that will withhold government funding from academic institutions that boycott Israel,” he said.

      “We will draft and lobby for federal anti-discrimination statutes in the United States against banks, businesses and governments that target only Israel. We will follow the money to find out just who is funding these attacks on Israel and if there is any connection to terrorism.”...grand master Lauder

      Go ahead...declare war on American freedom and democracy and laws.
      Just do it faster please.
      We want to bring this fifth column takeover thing to a head so we can get rid of it.

  • To reach the 'moveable middle' in Jewish life, you must be inside the tent
    • '' The “Presidents Conference” (that’s what we call it in my world) is recognized by America’s political establishment as one of the key addresses of the organized American Jewish community.''

      And J-Street must be part of it to 'move the middle'?
      That is so joining a tribe of cannibals to convert them to vegetarians.

      For the long term health of the Jews they should be tearing down these Jewish/Israeli 'governments within other governments'.

  • Amid 'climate of fear' at Vassar, president comes out against 'action and protest' re Israel
    • 3 dead after shootings at Kansas City-area Jewish centers
      link to

      CNN) -- Three people were killed Sunday in shootings at two Jewish facilities near Kansas City, police said.
      But it's too soon to say whether the shootings were a hate crime, Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass told reporters.
      "It's too early in the investigation to try to label it. We know it's a vicious act of violence. Obviously, at two Jewish facilities, one might make that assumption, but we're going to have to know more about it," he said.
      The shootings occurred at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City in Overland Park, Kansas, and at the Village Shalom Retirement Community in Leawood, Kansas.
      Authorities arrested the suspect at a nearby elementary school after the shootings, Douglass said.''>>>>>>>

      Whatever the man's motive, why do these freaks go after the children? Why...why , why?

    • ''That’s why I think rage is inevitable, and maybe necessary. We are talking about an intractable conflict that is intractable in some large measure because the U.S. government and countless liberal institutions and the official Jewish community are standing with an occupier that has created Jim Crow conditions for nearly 50 years. We have seen again and again that dialogue doesn’t affect the power arrangements one iota; it only allows supporters of the occupier to feel that they have atoned (we are critical too!) without doing a thing to address the structural inequity.''....PW

      I dont remember who said... doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of stupid.
      But continuing the 'farce' of politely debating I/P is the perfect example of that.

  • The Jewish community must not embrace Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    • @ Taxi

      I seem to remember from reading the Quran way back in high school several things that pertained to if I remember correctly was that daughters not be discriminated against in family heritances and some other rules about responsibility for a brother's widow and so forth.
      Too long ago for me to remember much more but my impression was it did not treat women as less than males and seemed to include some rules or 'family duties' for their welfare.

    • There will be the usual crowd who will latch onto and promote Hirsi Ali......Geller, Spencer, Pipes etc..

      Remember the famous "Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis'', written by the Jewish Egyptian woman, Gisèle Littman under the pseudonym of Bat Ye'or who claimed Islam's goal was to move into and dominate Europe and impose Islamic law on the world and so Muslims were immigrating to Europe for that purpose?
      Even Jews like Laura Rosen promoted this book on her blog site back in the early 2000's---that's when I dropped Rosen as a objective news and opinion source.

      But the good news is that despite all the best efforts of Uber wing of I-Firstdom to demonize Muslims in the US it never really took hold in the majority of the public --there was no vast public uprising against US Muslims or calls for deporting or imprisoning them.
      Although the I-Ubers were successful in getting the government to spy on and harass and punish Muslims and some of their charity groups.

  • Dershowitz plays McCarthy, and John Dingell is labeled 'anti-Israel'
    • Hostage says:

      April 12, 2014 at 4:09 pm

      ” the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations” Er…..who elects all these Presidents of the Jews?

      Jews, Smews this is the “Israel” Lobby we are talking about. J-Street met all of the tribal requirements:

      I know...I was being snarky.

    • '' the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations '''

      Er.....who elects all these Presidents of the Jews? I've never heard of a election day where Jews go to the polls and vote for their Presidents.
      Why do they put up with all these self appointed tribal chieftains and potentates?
      The World Wide Jewish Nation needs a Revolution or a Coup or a Civil war.

  • Land seizures-- near Bethlehem, Hebron, Jenin and in Jordan Valley
    • The peace talks were born dead. I think we all knew that even though we hoped against hope it would be different this time.
      The scorpion and the frog fable every time.

  • 'No decision has been made on Jonathan Pollard,' says State Dep't
    • @ Harry

      No it wont be a win...Pollards is useless to them except for using his release to bloster their egos and uber creds in Isr.
      We want them to get even more egotistic, be more outrageous, show their a** even more, infuriate more people even more.
      Their hubris will be what destroys them ----feed it and let it grow and grow.
      Let them get confident everyone is under their heel and they will grind their heel on everyone more and more.

      And besides all that getting Pollard isn't going to change anything at all on Isr side of the so called peace process--they will keep on avoiding it regardless. And Abbas will continue to do what he has done also regardless.

      We should actually gift wrap Pollard and send him over.

    • Release Pollard in exchange for the imprisoned Palestine leader/ resister (whose name I cant remember).
      Would be a good deal.
      We win ---first because it will piss off the CIA and FBI rank and file, will piss off the America first heartland followers of the hard right wing.
      Also a win because Israel will just re arrest the Palestine prisoner and leave Obama and Kerry fuming again, possibly fuming enough to slide some knives into Isr tender parts in a low key way.
      So I'm for it. Do it.

  • For Miliband, the road to 10 Downing Street runs through Jerusalem and Sderot
    • Krauss says:

      April 11, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      American, I’m not sure you can lecture anyone on nuance.

      Going to Israel and pandering to them, Miliband is doing not much different than Obama going to Ireland and “discovering his roots”. Naked ethnic pandering

      Oh I think I can.
      And you get a D- on the Obama- Ireland pilpul.
      You're still wet behind the ears and punching above your political and intellectual weight on the lobbying and pandering issue.
      Stay in School, take more history courses, come back in a few years.

    • '' Krauss says:

      April 11, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Just to clarify my comments, pandering to a specific group(Jews in this case) is not news worthy in of itself.

      It is when the pandering includes the panderer swearing his and *his country's subservience* to the interest of the *foreign homeland* of said Jewish/religious/ethnic group.

      There is a huge difference in a politician pandering to a ' group' on a *domestic policy or issue* as for example immigration, gay rights, gun rights, etc. and pandering that involves committing your country and all its citizens to a minority ethnics foreign country because of said minority's loyalty to that foreign country.

      Maybe someday you/they will get that difference.

  • 'Not a single person in this room would accept living as Palestinians do, generation after generation'
    • ''' The resistance myth was thus turned on its head – the French had not been a nation of resisters but a nation of collaborators.'' ..says Whirlygig

      Well you arent a 'resister' to the Zionist regime either are you?
      Better start saving your pennies to pay reparations to the Palestines.

    • @ Whirlygig

      Suing the French RR companies under occupation by the Nazis for transporting Jews is equivalent to a home invasion gang holding me hostage while they use my car to rob a bank and the bank suing me for it.

      The holocaust industry has become nothing but an extortion racket--a wing of the Zionist Mafia. And after extorting trillions from every entity that existed during WWII with deep pockets, the 52,000 actual camp survivors and the 200,000 displaced still claim they are destitute.
      The extorted money goes to the Zio mafia and not to the survivors.

    • And also btw, while they are eviscerating Palestine and burning the taxpayer dollars of the EU aid projects for Palestine....they are still sucking every ounce of lira they can milk out of the holocaust...and having the US act as their lawyer to do it.

      Obama administration warns states over Holocaust reparation talks with France link to

      ''The Obama administration is warning the state legislatures of Maryland and New York that legislation aimed at a French railway carrier over its Holocaust- era activities was jeopardizing its negotiations with the French government over reparations.

      ''The State Department released a statement on Thursday confirming that it was negotiating with Paris over a reparations agreement for Holocaust victims, survivors, and their next of kin who were transported to the Nazi death camps by way of French railways.

      “The United States and France have entered into discussions of compensation for victims of deportations by rail from France to Nazi labor and death camps as well as for victims’ families,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. “It is our mutual aim to conclude these talks as quickly as possible.” >>>>>>>>>>

      The real question here is why the French RR company should have to pay reparations. France was OCCUPIED by Germany, it was not an ally of Germany. As such everything in France was controlled by the Nazis including the rail roads. The RR company didn't " volunteer" to transport Jews, they were 'forced' to transport Jews.
      I will be delighted to dance on their grave when their era of zionist rule and holocaust extorting ends.

    • link to

      Compensation calls as Israel seizes EU-funded aid projects
      11/04/2014 - 08:01

      Israeli seizure of EU shelters at Ras-a-Baba. Photo: Rami Allaria
      EXCLUSIVE / Israel has seized three EU-funded humanitarian aid projects on the edge of a settlement construction zone that Europe views as as a 'red line', spurring demands for compensation payments to Brussels at a crisis moment for John Kerry’s Mideast peace bid.
      The three humanitarian aid shelters were dismantled on 9 April in Ras-a-Baba, also known as Jabal-al-Baba, which lies in the E1 corridor of the West Bank, linking the settlement of Ma’ale Adumim to Jerusalem.
      All three shelters were prefabricated caravans, built for families made homeless in severe storms that hit the region in December. They were funded by the EU’s humanitarian aid wing, DG ECHO, and some were provided by the French development agency, Action Contre la Faim (ACF).
      Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator, told EurActiv that the seizure was "more than a provocation, it is a crime," and linked it to the deteriorating Mideast peace process.
      "We ask the EU to apply their laws in relation to Israel," he said. "This is consistent with the Israeli policy of forced displacement of the Palestinian population around occupied East Jerusalem."

      EU officials contacted by EurActiv confirmed that they also saw the Israeli action as a "forced displacement of Palestinians" that breached international law and "must be halted immediately".
      "While we acknowledge that these events come at a politically sensitive time where parties to the conflict are currently negotiating a peace-deal brokered by the US (Secretary of State) John Kerry, we must nevertheless denounce the humanitarian consequences of such actions and try to prevent further demolitions from occurring by unreservedly condemning them," a senior source said. Internal discussions are underway over proposals to demand compensation for such actions in future.
      The dismantling of Palestinian homes in the E1 region has previously been followed by settlement construction.
      “The location is definitely an attractive area and when you go there it is easy to understand why it is coveted by the Israelis,” a European diplomat in the region told EurActiv over the phone. “It is quite beautiful and there’s a nice view of Jerusalem. It is also between Ma’ale Adumim and Jerusalem and is prime real estate.”

      In November 2012, the Netanyahu government announced a zoning plan to build 3,000 Jewish housing units in E1 that would create an urban bloc linking Jerusalem and Ma’ale Adumim, and disrupting the territorial coherence of any future state.
      An EU Foreign Affairs Council the next month expressed “deep dismay and strong opposition” to the plan which would “seriously undermine the prospects of a negotiated resolution of the conflict” and “could also entail forced transfer of civilian population.”
      The Conclusions pledged to “closely monitor the situation and its broader implications, and act accordingly.” EurActiv understands that a delegation of European diplomats in Jerusalem will deliver a complaint to the Israeli authorities about the seizure today (11 April). More actions could follow.
      “One of the key messages coming up will be a call for freeze on demolitions and for a fair planning and zoning regime to be put in place,” the diplomat said. “I don’t know if it will happen today but it is in the pipeline.”

      Some 79 EU-funded structures were demolished in the West Bank’s ‘Area C’ and Jerusalem region in 2012 and 54 more were destroyed in the first six months of 2013, according to an EU incident logging service. In all, the European Commission says that between 2001 and 2011, Israel destroyed development projects worth €49.14 million, of which €29.37 million was funded by the EU or its member states.
      As Israel is increasingly blamed for an impasse in Mideast peace talks, calls are growing for compensation for such actions at an EU Mashreq and Maghreb (MaMa) working group meeting that is expected to deliver recommendations on an EU ‘Area C’ report on Tuesday 15 April.
      Compensation calls
      One EU diplomat in Brussels speaking on condition of anonymity told EurActiv that while the final note was still being finalised, many member states now favoured such a proposal. “We should ask for compensation from Israel whenever EU-funded humanitarian aid projects are destroyed,” he said. “That would definitely be a pertinent recommendation.”
      EurActiv understands that no opposition was raised to this recommendation when it was raised in MaMa group discussions. The recent E1 demolition could have an effect on the vote, the diplomat said, as it was “a very good example that we need to do something concrete.”

      The EU’s humanitarian aid commissioner, Kristalina Georgieva, recently wrote a letter to the Israeli defence minister Moshe Ya’alon, outlining her concerns about the destruction of EU-funded structures in the West bank. But it remains to be seen whether a proposal to demand recompense will be included in the final note, which will then face a long route to the European Council.
      Maja Kocijancic, a spokesperson for the EU's foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, would only say that a delegation of diplomats visited the caravan site, also known as Jaba-al-Baba in February, when ‘stop work’ orders were first delivered and would do so again today.
      “We will raise this issue with the relevant Israeli authorities,” Kocijancic said.

      Israeli reaction
      An Israeli spokesman contacted by EurActiv declined an interview about the new E1 action but sent a statement saying that the three caravans were seized because they had been “assembled illegally”.
      “At least two of the buildings [were] located on state land and within the jurisdiction of the city of Ma’ale Adumim,” the statement read.
      It went on: “It is important to note that the elements in question were carefully dismantled and seized by the authorized bodies of the Civil Administration and that their owners can act according to the standard procedure in order to get them back from the Supervision Unit.”

      EU officials counter that the lack of any meaningful permitting regime for Palestinians can make complaints of permit violations a self-reinforcing proposition, and some fear that they can make EU aid funding complicit in violations of international humanitarian law.
      “I think every diplomat working here realises that we are here to help the Palestinians and build Palestinian institutions but in the end we end up funding the occupation as we are taking care of the responsibilities that Israel should take care, of as an occupying power,” an EU diplomat in Jerusalem told EurActiv. “So when we support the occupied population instead of Israel, we let them off the hook.”
      Death knell
      The Ras-a-baba demolition occurred hours after an instruction by Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to his ministers to stop all high-level meetings with their Palestinian counterparts, in retaliation for a Palestinian bid to join 15 UN treaties and conventions as a state party.
      This has been seen as the end of US Secretary of State John Kerry’s attempts to revive the battered 1993 Oslo peace Accord in the form of a framework agreement on principles.
      While the Oslo talks have ground on, by 2011, Israeli settlements which are considered illegal under international law, had expanded to house over 520,000 settlers, according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).
      The following year saw a 300% increase in the number of settler units issued for tender, OCHA says. In total 43% of the West Bank has now been allocated to settlement local and regional councils.>>>>

      Oh and btw, Israel has frozen all of Palestine tax revenues due them.

    • I am oddly enough listening to a doc on TV on Ayran motorcycle gangs in the US.
      They present themselves as being 'seperationist', not racist.
      Zionist are in fact and practice 'separationist".
      They have an actual 'separationist state'.
      So if we refer to Ayran groups as racist we must also refer to Zionism as racist.
      Cant have a double standard for Zionist and Ayrans.

  • Amira Hass predicts Israel's 'colonial project' will eventually fail--but at what cost?
    • @ Walid and Adele

      thanks for info and link.....its about what I guessed

    • @ Walid

      Got any info on what imports Isr lets into Palestine besides their own.

    • ''In a remark that punctuated her tempered hope, she predicted that “in the end, the colonial project will fail.”>>>>

      I agree with her. But based mainly on historical examples of how domination movements like Zionism have always ended. There are a very few rare examples of colonial projects that have lasted such as the US. But in that even there were two different elements---displacing the native Indians --but also throwing out King George and the colonies British 'owners".
      In this modern era its impossible to control those who wont be controlled forever....powers are way too 'fluid' and always seeking holes in and breaking over the dams these days.

      So yes the the only question is how long it will take and in what form(s) it will come....violent or non violent.

  • Simon Schama's Israel whitewash
    • '' When this Jewish tradition of an often violent antagonism to Christians and Gentiles came to light, “the general Jewish public was not only outraged but genuinely astonished,” so well had its spokesmen succeeded in convincing themselves and everybody else of the non-fact that Jewish separateness was due exclusively to Gentile hostility and lack of enlightenment. '....Hannah Arendt

      This is what I absolutely cannot see how a sane person could accept.
      To believe that Jews were persecuted in every century since time immemorial for no reason other than some kind of irrational or inbred hatred of them in all others implies that there exist on earth one group of people, the Jews, who are purely innocent in all ways while all other humans on earth are guilty and evil.
      It would make Jews some kind of saintly and collectively superior beings on earth, not the same kind of earthly and flawed humans as the rest of mankind.
      To believe that there could exist a group of beings like that on earth is truly insane.
      And yet we see that belief expressed and promoted all the time when Zionist answers to complaints or condemnations of any of their actions is always-- Anti Semites or the Oldest Hatred.

      Its beyond irrational.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius says:

      April 11, 2014 at 4:20 am

      Does anyone know of any books/websites (other than Shlomo Sand) which explore Jewish history in a more dispassionate manner?

      There are some, but if they are Jewish authors they are called self hating and if gentile authors called anti semites.
      I found Solzhenitsyn's book 200 Years Together to be very objective for a book whose subject was Jews in Russia and also gave a some historical facts about the Jews in other countries as it related to their various immigration waves into Russia.
      I think what I call 'straight" history books---a pure reporting on history or any country's history---that is not written about Jews as the sole subject is the best way to get a true picture of Jews in history.

    • I don't consider Schama a real historian if his History of the Jews was as it is described by commenters here. (I didn't see it) Actually I did come across it flipping thru tv channels but by- passed it because I'm already overloaded on Jewish history from my MW association .
      It sounds as if it was more PR and propaganda for Jews or Israel.

    • '' which do you abandon, your ethnocentrism or your liberalism''....Woody

      I think its not liberalism you have to abandon but your humanity you have to abandon to be able to do what Israel has done...for 65 long, long, long years....victimized a people for a generation, for some of them's whole, entire life.

    • Israel has forever changed the story of the Jews.....history will tell a different story in years to come.
      Gong on right now is the old, old story of the US dropping the Bomb on Japan....and being told a entirely different way.....on the horror of the US action.

    • Personally I have never seen a Zionist who didn't 'whitewash'.
      When I pick up anything written by a believer in Israel that begins with ..'the world's 'irrational' and historic and eternal hatred of innocent Jews justifies Israel' ...I go no further. Because this 'irrational' and faulty belief of their own will always be what they revert back to for whatever they have to justify.

  • 6 DC heavyweights tell Kerry, Netanyahu in West Bank is like Putin in Crimea
    • @ Kathleen

      yes the I-minons have their eye on you don't
      good for you

    • Justpassingby says:

      April 10, 2014 at 1:22 pm

      Pathetic, they cant even get it right.

      Crimea wanted to be part of Russia

      True, Zig gets is wrong there. Crimea 'voted' to join Russia--Russia didn't and hasn't 'invaded' Crimea against its will.
      NATO is now saying Scotland must be 'prevented' from voting itself independent of whats NATO going to do if Scotland votes itself out?....bomb it back into GB?
      The New World Order enforcers are finding they cant control the world like they thought they could.

  • 'There's a lot of anti-Semitism out there' -- Johansson reviews her role as 'new face of apartheid'
    • Ditto to Donald.

    • 'BDSers are never able to answer the basic question of where the passion comes from if it isn’t about Jews.'.....jeffb

      You've been told numerous times that the passion comes from 1)compassion for oppressed people 2)passion to also wipe this Isr abomination of I/P and US complicity in it out of US government.

      If you want to make it about Jews go ahead, no one cares, its your problem. And not our job, concern or responsibility to assure you its not. We are not going to play nanny to your childish whines.

    • @ Hostage

      my opinion also. don't think she even deserves the space we are giving her on I/P.
      the more yack-yack against her, the more Hollywood zios will reward her.
      she should be ignored.

  • 'In every generation they rise up against us' -- Passover and the Jewish imagination
    • yonah fredman says:

      April 10, 2014 at 4:57 pm
      seanmcbride- This doesn’t apply to you, but those who never met or heard of a Jew hater they didn’t approve of, suddenly blaming all the Jew hating on the self fulfilling prophecy theory of Jew hatred really have no credibility.>>>>>

      Here is the difference between the Jewish 'tribal ' kind of mindset
      and the mindset of non Jewish others.
      Most people understand, admit to and recognize, even in themselves the old truism of ..' getting what you give'.
      That if you act a certain way or have certain attitudes toward people then those people will return the same attitude towards you.
      Your kind wont admit that about themselves.
      Because of your extreme tribal narcissism you cant grasp how "human nature" works.

    • @ sean

      They cannot advance without enemies.
      What was the title of the book I am thinking of about the US?...something about 'War Defines Us' or makes us who we are?

      I think the world being their enemy is what propels them in what they do, beat the WASP, beat the Arab enemy, beat the goys, beat the world....their 'striving' and success is always about beating someone, being more than the others.
      Terrible way to live to have resentment and enemies as what inspires and drives you in life .
      You see that all the time in the way Zionist talk.

      Israel is the perfect example of a SFP.

    • @ yonah

      Actually you are a good example of that self fulfilling prophecy.
      You believe and expect the majority of people to be Jew haters.
      So that attitude towards people makes people not like you.
      Which you then say is because you are a Jew and they are a anti semite.

    • ''The world will never accept us, so the theory goes, so we must have our own state in our own land where we can live in safety and normalcy. ''

      Self-fulfilling Prophecy

      [The term “self-fulfilling prophecy” (SFP) was coined in 1948 by Robert Merton to describe “a false definition of the situation evoking a new behavior which makes the originally false conception come true”

      SFP is a particular type of dynamic process. To count as SFP, a belief must have consequences of a peculiar kind: consequences that make reality conform to the initial belief.

      The actors within the process—or at least some of them—fail to understand how their own belief has helped to construct the resulting reality; because their belief is eventually validated, they assume that it had been true at the outset.

  • State Dep't tries to clean up Kerry's 'Poof'
    • ''' as an aside, you’re going to have to do more than make comments and have opinions based on completely fabricated allegations* (like ‘gaza is a state’) to be part of this conversation. otherwise it’s clear you’re just here to derail the thread. at a minimum try prefacing your make believe with, “in my opinion” or “hypothetically speaking”. don’t state wishful thinking as fact, at least not if you want anyone besides moderators to read your comments'...annie

      If MW is going to have rules it ought to have one about citing sources or official documents to support what you are saying.....otherwise all someone reading MW sees is volumes of nonsense stated as 'fact' by trolls like jeffb.
      And then poor Hostage and others have to repeat themselves with the verifiable facts a thousands times to correct the hasbara.
      Really, its too much, it lowers the standards here to have this volume of trolling.

    • @ Hostage

      So what in your opinion follows next?

  • 66 years ago today 42 members of my family were slaughtered in Deir Yassin
    • Anti-BDS says:

      April 10, 2014 at 9:05 am

      Hostage. Why are you focusing on 250 people many of whom were armed being killed in a war 66 years ago but not focus on 200,000 people being killed in Syria including many Palestinians????

      Because the main subject of this blog is Israel not Syria.

    • Naftush says:

      April 10, 2014 at 3:36 am

      "' thousands of Palestinians fled solely because sources they considered reliable told them that they were next in line""

      sounds like whitewashing to me.

    • tokyobk says

      '' And of course you are right that the Nazi war against the Jews (even in the context of WWII) is just one genocide, '''>>>>

      That is the point of most people's objections to having the holocaust taught as a 'stand alone' subject.
      It should be 'part of' world history or similar courses where genocide events are covered.
      In the US in particular the holocaust is not a "US event" , not something that involved the US, whereas black slavery for instance was a US event.

  • 'NYT' self-censors, axing headline blaming Israeli settlements
    • ritzl says:

      ''Chu just posted these profound words from Avigail Abarbanel: link to ''

      thanks for pointing out ..gotta love Avigail....she's so damn smart and has a conscience...and guts.

    • ''But then he goes on to say that “until” non-Jews ante up in numbers the Israel/Jewish Lobby will hold sway.''

      Yeah well, get the I-people out of the US media so more non Jews know what is going on and they will ante up.
      Miller is a bought zio tool.

  • Brandeis retracts plan to honor anti-Muslim activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    • '' You’ve frequently published the work of Israel Shahak (among others) here many times.'''....hoppie

      I have read Shahak's criticisms but no where did I see him call Judaism a 'inherently violent' religion. He talks about the violent fundamentalist within it...not the 'entire' religion.
      So it isn't the same thing.

  • Christie will get another crack at not saying 'occupied territories' at NY Adelson fete
    • LOL...even Ann Coulter hates Adelson.

      Casino Boss And Amnesty Tout Sheldon Adelson: Competition For Thee, But Not For Me
      By Ann Coulter on April 9, 2014 at 6:16pm

      Between having Republican presidential candidates fly to Las Vegas to kiss his ring, billionaire Sheldon Adelson has managed to fit in time to talk Sen. Lindsey Graham into sponsoring a bill banning Internet gambling.

      As you may know, Sheldon Adelson is a CASINO OWNER. Internet gambling would compete with his casino business.

      On the other hand, when it comes to the services Adelson isn't selling, but buying—low-skilled workers—he's for unbridled competition, preferring not to limit the supply even to people who are legally in the United States. (Weirdly, so is Lindsey Graham.)

      Adelson is a big backer of amnesty, telling The Wall Street Journal: "It would be inhumane to send those people back, to send 12 million people out of this country. ... So we've got to find a way, find a route for those people to get legal citizenship."

      Adelson is an especially telling example of the self-interest of businessmen on immigration. His newspaper, Israel Today, the largest newspaper in Israel, is wildly patriotic on immigration .
      Israel Today has trumpeted the success of the 15-foot razor-wire fence along Israel's 140-mile border with Egypt, triumphantly noting last August that, for the first time, "no infiltrations were recorded from the Egyptian border, compared to 193 from the same month last year."

      Adelson himself had suggested just such a policy to the Los Angeles Times last year, saying he wanted to "Put a big fence around our country."

      By "our country," he, of course, meant Israel. In America, he wants illegal immigrants pouring across the border to provide him with an endless supply of cheap labor. ""

      link to

  • 'Poof' -- Kerry blames Israel for breakdown of talks (Updated)
      link to


      Another punitive Israeli step under "serious consideration" was to deduct up to $75 million in tax revenue transfers to the Palestinians, the Israeli official said.

      Citing Palestinian figures, Israel estimates this is the sum of annual Palestinian aid provided to their prisoners in Israeli jails convicted of violence, including lethal attacks.

      Under 1990s interim peace deals, Israel collects and transfers to the PA some $100 million a month in taxes on goods imported into the Palestinian territories. Israel has previously frozen the payments during times of heightened tension.

      Who do the mf'kers think they are?

      Ԓ The race is on to get out of the bottom ԓԓ
      The top is high so your roots are forgotten
      Giving is good as long as you're getting
      What's driving you it's ambition and betting

      I said, "Who do you think you are?"
      I said, "Who? Some kind of superstar"

      You're swelling out in the wrong direction
      You've got the bug, superstar you've been bitten
      Your trumpet's been blowing for far too long
      Playing the snake of the ladder, but you're wrong

      I said, "Who do you think you are?"
      (Think, think you are)
      I said, "Who? Some kind of superstar" Ԓ

    • Stand Firm, John Kerry - Zbigniew Brzezinski and Frank Carlucci and Lee Hamilton and Carla A. Hills and Thomas Pickering and Henry Siegman - POLITICO
      link to

      "We commend Secretary of State John Kerry’s extraordinary efforts to renew Israeli-Palestinian talks and negotiations for a framework for a peace accord, and the strong support his initiative has received from President Barack Obama. We believe these efforts, and the priority Kerry has assigned to them, have been fully justified. However, we also believe that the necessary confidentiality that Secretary Kerry imposed on the resumed negotiations should not preclude a far more forceful and public expression of certain fundamental U.S. positions:"

      "Settlements: U.S. disapproval of continued settlement enlargement in the Occupied Territories by Israel’s government as “illegitimate” and “unhelpful” does not begin to define the destructiveness of this activity. Nor does it dispel the impression that we have come to accept it despite our rhetorical objections. Halting the diplomatic process on a date certain until Israel complies with international law and previous agreements would help to stop this activity and clearly place the onus for the interruption where it belongs."

      [Top comment: "This whole Israeli/Palestinian issue could be solved overnight. The USA should end all foreign aid to Israel immediately and stop sending them replacement parts and ammunition for their weapons. Money is the one and only language they understand. They'll be begging for an independent Palestinian state within hours."]

  • Because Rep. Jones voted 'present' on Israel aid, lobby group runs attack ad with burning flag
    • Shingo says:

      April 8, 2014 at 5:34 pm

      How I wish someone would run an attack add against ECI.

      You wish is my command....worked on it all day long....not an ad but flyers at least, 700 of them will be ready by Saturday.
      Sunday morning there will a flyer on every car parked at every church in town and on Monday one on every car in every business complex and city and county office parking lots in town. A second batch of 1000 will go for the more upscale shopping centers --if I don't get too much grief for littering from the city.
      The flyer explains why 'The Emergency Committee'' for Israel is attacking Jones, recounts the attack by ECI on Chuck Hagel for SOD for not being loyal enough to Israel, including Hagel's famous remark ...''I am a US Senator , not a Israeli Senator'' Also incorporates the Sheldon Adelson GOP Primary to stress the 'over all' effort of Israel loyalist to handpick US politicians who will carry out Israeli interest. Also quotes Adelson's famous remarks about his regret of serving in the US army instead of for Israel....with The American Conservative site address as the source.
      It says Vote for American interest not for the foreign country of Israel's interest.
      We'll see how it goes.

    • ''I’ve commented in the past, that sadly, Iraqi deaths didn’t seem to bother Jones too much. The President signed Walter Jones’ “War Crimes Act” into law on August 21, 1996 which finally provided enabling legislation for the Geneva Conventions of 1949'' ...Hostage

      I agree and let him know. Jones has been very affected by all the funerals he has attended for Camp LeJeune marines killed since 2003---he has attended every single one in NC and I think it got the better of his judgement in that case and he has some PTSD himself ....especially since he was for the war before he was against it.

    • Spoke to Jones local and DC office.
      They say they expect even more attack ads from Israel interest but intend to stick to America First message and let chips fall where they may.

    • Been waiting for this but havent seen the ad airing around here yet.
      Getting ready to call his local office to see what they have to say about it....if anything interesting I will post it.

  • 'The struggle for Palestinian liberation has become a mainstream global civil rights movement of our time': CUNY panel discusses the BDS movement
    • BrianEsker says:

      ''Sorry. BDS will never get past being known as a crank-filled terror cult that attracts racist morons. It’s the fraud, racism and terrorism. You can’t paper those over or fool everybody indefinitely''>>>>>

      LOL, you cant fool everyone indefinitely. BDS and condemnation of Israel growing, growing, growing in every nook and cranny around the world...its everywhere.

      link to

      Former foreign minister Bob Carr says 'pro-Israel lobby' influenced government policy
      Updated 27 minutes ago
      Former foreign minister Bob Carr has hit out at what he calls the "pro-Israel lobby in Melbourne", saying it wielded "extraordinary influence" on Australia's policy during his time in Julia Gillard's cabinet.
      Speaking to ABC's 7.30 program, Mr Carr said "extreme right wing" pro-Israel lobbyists had an "unhealthy" influence on Australia's policy towards Israel and the Occupied Territories.
      Mr Carr details his time as foreign minister, and his criticism of the pro-Israel lobby, in his new book, Diary of a Foreign Minister.
      "I found it very frustrating that we couldn't issue, for example, a routine expression of concern about the spread of Israeli settlements on the West Bank - great blocks of housing for Israeli citizens going up on land that everyone regards as part of the future Palestinian state if there is to be a two-state solution," he said.
      "The important point about a diary of a foreign minister is you shine light on areas of government that are otherwise in darkness, and the influence of lobby groups is one of those areas.''

      Milwaukee based People's Books Co-op boycotts Israel
      Fight Back! Newspaper-Apr 7, 2014
      The People's Books Co-op board voted in favor of “instituting a consumer, cultural and academic boycott of the Israeli state due to significant..

      Ryerson University student union votes to join BDS
      The Times of Israel-Apr 8, 2014
      The student union of Ryerson University in Toronto voted to join the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement aimed at Israel, at least the ...

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      A Montreal Restaurateur's Anti-Israel Rant
      Monday, April 7, 2014, by Ian Harrison

      Richard Holder (Holder, Brasserie Bernard, Bar Waverly) has made his views on Israel known on Facebook over the past two weeks.
      "The bully state of israel must end one day, as must much of the world's silence on this subsidized massacre," the prominent Montreal restaurateur wrote on April 5, above a link to a blog article about the death of a Jordanian judge of Palestinian origin.
      This came one day after Holder wrote, "netanyaho: murderer" in a show of apparent solidarity with the Facebook group I Acknowledge Apartheid Exists.

      Moroccan group publishes blacklist of 'Zionist infiltrators'
      Individuals are listed for visiting and cooperating with Israel, says Moroccan Observatory against Normalization with Israel.
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      An anti-Israel organization in Morocco has published a list of people and institutions it accuses of collaborating with the Jewish state.
      The Moroccan Observatory against Normalization with Israel published the list last
      They were listed for visiting Israel or working to further cooperation with it, according to the report, which named some of the individuals listed as “symbols of the Zionist infiltration into Morocco.”
      The observatory is described as an umbrella body representing groups and individuals who are working to end commerce and international ties between Israel and Morocco, one of the Arab world’s friendliest countries to Israel. Its spokespeople have said they seek to “put a price on collaboration with Israel.”

  • Where is Sarah Ali?
    • Israel upholds travel ban for Gaza Olympian
      Palestinian Olympian Nader Masri prevented from leaving coastal strip to participate in marathon in West Bank.

      Last updated: 08 Apr 2014 10:42
      Masri was one of many Gazans denied permission to travel to take part in the West Bank marathon [Reuters]
      Israel's high court has upheld a decision by the military to prevent a Gaza Olympian from leaving the coastal strip to participate in a marathon in the West Bank, another Palestinian territory.
      Tuesday's ruling ends hopes of 34-year-old Nader Masri to participate in Friday's marathon in Bethlehem.
      Masri, who participated in the 2008 Olympics, says he is disappointed because he hoped to compete against runners outside Gaza.
      Israel has severely restricted the movement of people and goods in and out of Gaza since Hamas took control over the Palestinian territory in 2007.
      The restrictions are also enforced by Gaza's neighbour Egypt.
      Israel says only humanitarian hardship cases are allowed to leave Gaza.
      The judges say they cannot interfere in the military's decisions but that it should consider easing the travel ban.''

      Petty vindictiveness is a hallmark of the Jewish State....its sick, get rid of it.

  • 'For me, Palestine is paradise': An interview with Leila Khaled
    • Mayhem says....

      'Furthermore it is abhorrent to tout a number like ‘six million’ which has obvious Holocaust connotations' >>>>>

      Sorry you don't own numbers or words.
      I was thinking of doing a coffee table book like the one the Jewish fellow did
      with nothing in it except the word Jew printed 6 million times except I would
      substitute with Palestine refugee typed in 6 million times.

      The more I think it the more I like this idea....a book for Palestine victims. I however would be respectful enough use their names
      Calling annie, calling annie.!!!!!....maybe she can get one of her artist friends interested in doing the book.

    • @ Naftush

      Let me remind you how Israelis got what they have in Israel---they STOLE it---from the beginning.

      "The provisional government used the Arabs’ land, dwellings, and possessions for its Jewish population, and primarily for recent immigrants. Ben Gurion ordered that abandoned Arab housing be allocated to Jews. By April 1949, he reported to the Knesset, the government had settled 150,000 Jews in Arab housing.

      The government also took housing from Arabs who remained inside the armistice lines. In Haifa in July 1948 the IDF forced out Arab residents of the Carmel ridge area to make room for Jews. It forced Arabs from their homes in Acre into what became an Arab ghetto. Many “internal refugees” tried to return to their homes. Their land, like that of the Arab “external refugees”, was considered “absentee” property and was controlled by the custodian of absentee property, who rented it to Jews-the rent money going to the government.
      The value of the land taken from the Palestine Arabs was estimated at 100 million Palestinian pounds. It included stone quarries, 10,000 acres of vineyards, 25, 000 acres of citrus groves, 10.000 business establishments, 95 percent of what became Israel’s olive groves, and 50,000 apartments.
      The government took over fully equipped plants. In Ramleh, it distributed 600 shops to Jewish immigrants. In Lydda it seized 1800 truckloads of property, including a button factory, a carbonated drinks plant, a sausage factory, 7000 retail shops, 500 workshops, and 1000 warehouses. It confiscated cabinetmaking shops, locksmith works, turneries, ironworks, and tinworks, which it then leased and sold to Jews.''

  • Friedman says Iran's friends include BDS and Jews in Open Hillel movement
    • Lets see who the I -People have blamed for their occupation of Palestine.....

      Anti Semties, for making it necessary
      Hitler, for making it necessary
      Palestines for making it necessary
      The US puppet master according to Chomsky

      And now Iran and BDS'ers

      Who's next?...probably the Pope who wants to destroy the Jews.

  • Distracted by the peace process: What really happened during the talks
    • LeaNder says:

      April 8, 2014 at 10:31 am

      I doubt that the Israelis are that stupid. That would enormously harm their image as the world’s security experts. >>>>>

      Yeah, they are that stupid. Remember what Sharon provoked with his deliberate march on the temple mount.
      And Israel is even worse now with their religious extremist having so much influence.
      You are basically dealing with two kinds of I-People who have any power, both in and out of Israel, the primitive religious fanatics of Judaism and the secular Jewish Chauvinists of Zionism, including US Zionist.
      That combination as described below by Shahak is toxic.

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      Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel
      Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky

      ''The reason for the willful ignorance of this danger, shared by many Israeli Jews, including Rabin himself, was in our view Jewish chauvinism, which is so prevalent among Jews. The chauvinists falsify the history of their nation in order to make it appear better than it really was. They also falsify the current situation by claiming that their nation is the best.
      This claim, often made by too many Jews, is especially dangerous when reinforced by a combination of religious fanaticism and willful ignorance.
      Jewish chauvinism is especially virulent, because the identification between Jewish religion and Jewish nationality has prevailed for so long and still prevails among many Jews.
      It should not be forgotten that democracy and the rule of law were brought into Judaism from the outside. Before the advent of the modern state, Jewish communities were mostly ruled by rabbis who employed arbitrary and cruel methods as bad as those employed by totalitarian regimes.
      The dearest wish of the current Jewish fundamentalists is to restore this state of affairs.''

    • ToivoS says:
      .....that quote from Cook “start to appear’ jumped out at me also. It is not just the IP negotiations, but it looks like US diplomacy is appearing desperate in every venue.''

      A 'desperate policy' is the natural outcome of a political system based on acquiescing to certain special interest and then having to try to 'minimize the damage' acquiescing to those interest causes.
      The policy becomes ' incoherent'.
      A constant hamster wheel circle of providing for those special interest and then trying to avert whatever crisis it fosters.
      But you never can stop the wheel or catch up because each crisis only brings on more special interest involvement 'as a solution' to each crisis.
      And its not just in FP either, this is the way US economic FED policy has also been working for decades.
      Sooner or later however it breaks down....even the best juggler cant keep all the balls in the air forever.

    • @ Taxi

      I started shortly after you did....after 6 months or so of intensive research on ME-Isr-USA-I/P.
      It has been an uphill struggle but the payoff is that now 99% of everyone commenting on Isr is saying exactly what we said 11 years ago.
      And yes, economic or military force is the only way Isr is going to be stopped.
      But what that requires is a citizens uprising against the Zionist and Israel infiltration in all countries governments.

  • Apathy in Ramallah as negotiations with Israel dive
    • Bandolero says:

      '' I think it’s a historic moment that on German TV it is declared that Israel is guilty of not wanting peace and of running an apartheid system. And even more so it is important because Jean Asselborn is a very respected EU politician. It may well be a harbinger that serious EU action against Israel could be soon in the cards'>>>

      I hope you are right and this is or becomes 'Active & Official' German position.
      But governments have to give up any expectation of sane 'political will' re the Zionist and admit Zionism is similar to the Nazi mentality and deal with it on that basis.
      It cant be reasoned with.

    • When the Apartheid State does arrive perhaps the world will have a good use for ALQ and jihadist .
      Battle of Algiers ring a bell?
      If there's one thing the Israelis cant handle its their own blood being spilled.

  • 'NYT' readers who objected to calling Abbas 'defiant' have a point, public editor rules
    • ' I agree with Mr. Kahn, however, that this does not reflect any larger effort by The Times to lay the impasse at the Palestinians’ feet.'

      rotflmao......sure it isn't. ...what bs.

  • Ehud Olmert's JNF-sponsored tour nixed after corruption conviction
    • yonah fredman says...

      ” if you had given the Jews a country with a coast on the Mediterranean, even as small as Gaza is even as overcrowded as it is, the Jews would have turned it into something more than what Hamas has done with it.”>>>>

      lordy, lordy......such illusions of grandeur and superiority you have.....

  • 'NYT' stamps Jimmy Carter 'radioactive' and not 'a force for good'
    • JeffB says...

      “Wow you guys really work hard to make everything Israel’s fault”

      You went, you stole, you killed in the name of the Greater Good for the Jews--- you keeping stealing and you keep killing to steal more and keep what isn't yours.
      Yea you are guilty. Your greater good isn't good.

  • Oren says Pollard 'sacrificed himself for the Jewish people'
    • BDS jeff!!!!

    • ' Now Israel is at once so dependent on the U.S. and so far from American values that desperate Zionists are openly invoking that loyalty on the part of American Jews to try and hold the Israel lobby together. It won’t work. '>>>>

      Well lets hope.
      However there is one thing liberal Zionist and any one who advocates for US 'support' of Israel needs to understand-----and that is they do not have a 'right', and are not entitled on any grounds to make the US and all Americans responsible for a Jewish State.
      Yes I am well aware of the meme ....make that the myth...that the whole world is responsible for the Nazi holocaust...sorry, but that's a lie.
      While I don't 'hate' the MJ's, who I think are screwed up mentally and emotionally, like I do hate the Uber Zionist Mafia, they are also responsible for involving the US with Israel.
      The US has no obligation or duty to the Jews....except to ensure US Jews the exact same rights any citizen has...nothing more.
      They will have to accept that or the problem will continue.

    • '' The piece repeatedly cites the unfair suspicion of Jews having dual loyalty for Israel before it ends with this quote from a non-American:

      “He is the embodiment of a national narrative of the Jew who sacrificed himself for his people,” said Michael B. Oren, an American-born historian who renounced his American citizenship in 2009 ....">>>>>>>>>>>>>

      Oh my aching head! we go again!
      I wish I had a dollar for every time 'they' have decried the unfair suspicions of Jews disloyalty....while' they' feature and quote prime examples of it.
      Does being in a cult destroy your brain to this extent, where you cant even compare what you said to what you are saying? must.

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