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  • Gideon Levy: 'Zionism in its present meaning, in its common meaning, is contradictory to human rights, to equality, to democracy'
    • American September 9, 2010 at 10:38 pm with 1 replies

      Well finally!

      I have taken a lot of flack over the years for saying exactly what Levy is saying now. Those of us on the outside looking in have always seen zionism for what it is.

      There has been so much myth and propaganda built into zionism and imprinted on the Jews .......it's tangled web that I am not sure they can ever unwind.

      The history of the Jews reminds me of a light bulb going on and off and on and off...gaining and losing over and over. I am not expert enough to say why this occurs thruout history but somewhere along the later lines the notion of being a "distinct ethnic people" , which is ridiculous on it's face, instead of a religion of Arab, Asian, African, European and etc., etc. Jews, went totally haywire and coalesced into that 'people apart" and 'nation within a nation" structure. And that, no matter how or why it came about, has been the main problem of and for the Jews.

      Whether this structure goes on forever and Jews stay 'seperate' or whether they eventually come to accept themselves as simply followers of a religion instead of 'their own nation' whose culture, however created, over the centuries has set them away from others, who can say.

      But I remain convinced zionism and Israel is a negative for both Jews and the world.

      Think how much simpler (and safer for Jews also) it would have been if they had just assimilated back into the countries they originated from.
      With half the world's Jews not even living in Israel and with Israel's constant claims of 'insecurity' and 'terrorism' and 'existential threats', common sense tells one that the creation of Israel was one of the most pointless, absurd things the world ever ever went along with.
      It's just been a frigging disaster.

  • 'There Are No Civilians In Wartime': Rachel Corrie’s family confronts the Israeli military in court
    • American September 9, 2010 at 10:29 am with 2 replies

      What the families of Corrie and Anderson should do while suing Israel is name AIPAC and half a dozen congressperps as accessories to the murder
      and sue them in the US.
      Congress passed a law years ago that Jews killed or injured in Israel could sue Palestine in US courts for reperations.

  • Maybe it should have been called 'why Israel doesn't care about traffic accidents'
    • American September 9, 2010 at 1:20 am with 5 replies

      Seriously, you just can't make this stuff up.
      The United States of Israel at work.

      [106th] H.CON.RES.131 : Condemning Palestinian efforts to revive the original Palestine partition plan of November 29, 1947, and condemning the United Nations Commission on Human Rights for its April 27, 1999, resolution endorsing Palestinian self-determination on the basis of the original Palestine partition plan.
      Sponsor: Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] (introduced 6/10/1999) Cosponsors (21)
      Committees: House International Relations
      Latest Major Action: 6/10/1999 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.

      36. S.CON.RES.36 : A concurrent resolution condemning Palestinian efforts to revive the original Palestine partition plan of November 29, 1947, and condemning the United Nations Commission on Human Rights for its April 27, 1999, resolution endorsing Palestinian self-determination on the basis of the original Palestine partition plan.
      Sponsor: Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] (introduced 5/27/1999) Cosponsors (16)
      Committees: Senate Foreign Relations; House International Relations
      Latest Major Action: 7/12/1999 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.

      [110th] H.RES.467 : Condemning the decision by the leadership of the University and College Union of the United Kingdom to support a boycott of Israeli academia.
      Sponsor: Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] (introduced 6/6/2007) Cosponsors (70)
      Committees: House Foreign Affairs
      Latest Major Action: 7/11/2007 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 414 - 0, 2 Present (Roll no. 618

      [110th] H.CON.RES.21 : Calling on the United Nations Security Council to charge Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with violating the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide and United Nations Charter because of his calls for the destruction of the State of Israel.
      Sponsor: Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] (introduced 1/9/2007) Cosponsors (103)
      Committees: House Foreign Affairs; Senate Foreign Relations
      Latest Major Action: 6/21/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

      [110th] H.CON.RES.194 : Expressing the sense of Congress regarding the failure of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority to properly implement education reforms aimed at reducing the cultural roots of terrorism.
      Sponsor: Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] (introduced 7/26/2007) Cosponsors (4)
      Committees: House Foreign Affairs
      Latest Major Action: 7/26/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs

      [110th] H.R.2975 : To make unlawful the establishment or maintenance within the United States of an office of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
      Sponsor: Rep Weiner, Anthony D. [NY-9] (introduced 7/10/2007) Cosponsors (None)
      Committees: House Foreign Affairs
      Latest Major Action: 7/10/2007 Referred to House committee

      [109th] H.AMDT.311 to H.R.2745 Amendment places limits on the United States contributions to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.
      Sponsor: Rep King, Steve [IA-5] (introduced 6/17/2005) Cosponsors (None)
      Latest Major Action: 6/17/2005 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the King (IA) amendment (A018) Agreed to by voice vote.

      [108th] H.CON.RES.311 : Expressing the sense of Congress that the international community should recognize the plight of Jewish refugees from Arab countries and that the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East should establish a program for resettling Palestinian refugees.
      Sponsor: Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] (introduced 10/28/2003) Cosponsors (22)
      Committees: House International Relations
      Latest Major Action: 10/28/2003 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.
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      2. [108th] H.RES.294 : Condemning the terrorism inflicted on Israel since the Aqaba Summit and expressing solidarity with the Israeli people in their fight against terrorism.
      Sponsor: Rep Lantos, Tom [CA-12] (introduced 6/24/2003) Cosponsors (20)
      Committees: House International Relations
      Latest Major Action: 6/25/2003 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 399 - 5, 7 Present (Roll no. 317).

      [107th] S.RES.157 : A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that the Secretary of State should redesignate the Palestine Liberation Organization as a terrorist organization, and for other purposes.
      Sponsor: Sen Smith, Bob [NH] (introduced 8/3/2001) Cosponsors (None)
      Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
      Latest Major Action: 8/3/2001 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations

      [107th] S.2432 : A bill to prohibit the use of fiscal year 2003 Federal funds for support of the Palestinian Authority pending the cessation of terrorist activities by the Palestinian Authority.
      Sponsor: Sen Smith, Bob [NH] (introduced 5/1/2002) Cosponsors (None)
      Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
      Latest Major Action: 5/1/2002 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

      109th] S.RES.82 : A resolution urging the European Union to add Hezbollah to the European Union's wide-ranging list of terrorist organizations.
      Sponsor: Sen Allen, George [VA] (introduced 3/15/2005) Cosponsors (15)
      Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
      Latest Major Action: 4/29/2005 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Resolution agreed to in Senate without amendment and an amended preamble by Unanimous Consent

      And you really gotta love this one....

      H.CON.RES.329 -- Expressing the sense of Congress that former Presidents and high-ranking political figures should refrain from freelance diplomacy against the wishes of the current Government and stated... (Introduced in House - IH)

      HCON 329 IH

      110th CONGRESS

      2d Session

      H. CON. RES. 329
      Expressing the sense of Congress that former Presidents and high-ranking political figures should refrain from freelance diplomacy against the wishes of the current Government and stated United States foreign policy.

      IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

      April 16, 2008
      Mr. SHUSTER submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
      Expressing the sense of Congress that former Presidents and high-ranking political figures should refrain from freelance diplomacy against the wishes of the current Government and stated United States foreign policy.

      Whereas Hamas has been designated by the United States and Israel as a terrorist group, and has been instrumental in organizing and executing acts of terror against innocent Israeli civilians;

      Whereas the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs reported that since the beginning of the most recent wave of attacks by Palestinian terrorist groups against Israel, Hamas has executed over 52 suicide attacks that killed 288 Israelis and wounded 1,646;

      Whereas on March 6, 2008, eight students of the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem were killed and 11 wounded when a terrorist gunman opened fire in the school's library, where about 80 people were gathered;

      Whereas Hamas released a statement approving of the Yeshiva attack, stating that the group `blesses the [Jerusalem] operation [and] it will not be the last';

      Whereas on Sunday, April 13, 2008, former President Jimmy Carter arrived in Israel for a nine day tour of the Middle East to investigate the current climate for future Israeli-Palestinian peace talks;

      Whereas President Carter traveled to the Middle East without portfolio, despite being urged by the current Administration not to engage in freelance peace talks;

      Whereas President Carter met with members of Hamas, including exiled leader Khalid Mashall, which contradicts stated United States policy on terrorist groups;

      Whereas unofficial visits by former Presidents and high-ranking political figures in areas as unstable and important as the Middle East have the inherent danger of miscommunicating United States policy, and create a false impression of United States foreign policy to the region's population; and

      Whereas such actions could have a destabilizing effect on the region and the security of the United States: Now, therefore, be it

      Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress--

      (1) expresses its solidarity with the State of Israel and its democratic Government;

      (2) continues its commitment to Israel's sovereignty and the security of its people;

      (3) disapproves of former President Jimmy Carter's freelance diplomatic efforts in the Middle East, which contradict the stated foreign policy position of the current Administration;

      (4) calls on President Carter to cease all diplomatic efforts with recognized terrorist groups;

      (5) condemns Hamas for its relentless support of terrorism and the slaughter of innocent Israeli civilians; and

      (6) demands Hamas cease all terrorist and paramilitary operations, throw away the failed policy of aggression against Israel, and follow the path of diplomacy to bring peace to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    • American September 9, 2010 at 12:19 am

      Why Israel doesn't care about peace?...because they don't have to
      The US congress sees to that.
      Guess which of these bills, all related to Israel had hundreds of co-sponsors and which had only 4 to 10 co sponsors out of all of congress?
      Hint...any bill that says peace or any bill calling for an investigation of the IDF killing unarmed Americans doesn't have any co-sponsors in congress.
      Of course it could be that for some reason congress just didn't like Rachel Corrie and Triston Anderson and really loves the rest of us Americans and would have a fit if you or I got a IDF tear gas cannister lobotomy or bulldozer crushing....but I doubt it.
      This folks...is our government....don't it make you proud?

      Israel bills
      Below are the bills that are related to the "Israel" subject term. Click the Add Tracker button to the right to subscribe to this subject term.

      The following is a list of current pending legislation in Congress. These bills and resolutions have been proposed by Members of Congress but may not have had any action taken on them on their path to becoming law. In fact, the vast majority of proposed legislation never becomes law.

      Bill Status
      H.R. 2194: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2009 Enacted
      Jul 1, 2010
      S.Res. 548: A resolution to express the sense of the Senate that Israel has an undeniable right to self-defense, and to condemn the recent destabilizing actions by extremists aboard the ship Mavi Marmara. Passed Senate
      Jun 24, 2010
      S. 2799: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2009 Passed Senate
      Jan 28, 2010
      H.R. 3326: Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010 Enacted
      Dec 19, 2009
      H.R. 3288: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2010 Enacted
      Dec 16, 2009
      H.Res. 867: Calling on the President and the Secretary of State to oppose unequivocally any endorsement or further consideration of the "Report of the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict" in multilateral fora. Passed House
      Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM
      H.Res. 654: Honoring the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Mediterranean Partners for Cooperation and for other purposes. Passed House
      Jul 22, 2009 5:06 PM
      H.R. 3081: Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2010 Passed House
      Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM
      S. 1434: Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2010 Reported by Committee
      Jul 9, 2009
      H.R. 2346: Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2009 Enacted
      Jun 24, 2009
      H.R. 2410: Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2010 and 2011 Passed House
      Jun 10, 2009 6:49 PM
      H.Con.Res. 111: Recognizing the 61st anniversary of the independence of the State of Israel. Passed House
      May 4, 2009 7:14 PM
      H.Res. 282: Recognizing the 30th anniversary of the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. Passed House
      Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM
      H.R. 1105: Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009 Enacted
      Mar 11, 2009
      H.Res. 34: Recognizing Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza, reaffirming the United States' strong support for Israel, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. Passed House
      Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM
      S.Res. 10: A resolution recognizing the right of Israel to defend itself against attacks from Gaza and reaffirming the United States' strong support for Israel in its battle with Hamas, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. Passed Senate
      Jan 8, 2009
      H.Con.Res. 270: Calling on the United States Government to investigate the case of Tristan Anderson, a United States citizen from Oakland, California, who was critically injured in the West Bank village of Ni'lin on March 13, 2009, and expressing sympathy to Tristan Anderson and his family, friends, and loved ones during this trying time. Introduced
      Apr 28, 2010
      H.Con.Res. 260: Recognizing the 62nd anniversary of the independence of the State of Israel, and reaffirming unequivocal support for the alliance and friendship between the United States and Israel. Introduced
      Apr 13, 2010
      H.Res. 1241: Supporting the right of Israel to defend itself against terrorists and the Israeli construction of new security fences along the border of Egypt. Introduced
      Apr 13, 2010
      H.Res. 1191: Urging the expedient relocation of the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Introduced
      Mar 18, 2010
      H.R. 4758: Secure Visas Act Introduced
      Mar 4, 2010
      S. 3077: A bill to authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State to refuse or revoke visas to aliens if in the security or foreign policy interests of the United States, to require the Secretary of Homeland Security to review visa applications before adjudication, and to provide for the immediate dissemination of visa revocation information. Introduced
      Mar 4, 2010
      S. 2944: A bill to authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State to refuse or revoke visas to aliens if in the security or foreign policy interests of the United States, to require the Secretary of Homeland Security to review all visa applications before adjudication, and to provide for the immediate dissemination of visa revocation information. Introduced
      Jan 21, 2010
      H.R. 4406: To render nationals of Israel eligible to enter the United States as nonimmigrant traders and investors. Introduced
      Dec 16, 2009
      H.R. 4046: To enhance the reporting requirements on the status of the Arab League trade boycott of Israel and other trade boycotts of Israel. Introduced
      Nov 6, 2009
      S. 2737: Jerusalem Embassy Relocation Act of 2009 Introduced
      Nov 5, 2009
      H.R. 3832: Peace Through Strength Act of 2009 Introduced
      Oct 15, 2009
      S. 1671: A bill to enhance the reporting requirements on the status of the Arab League trade boycott of Israel and other trade boycotts of Israel. Introduced
      Sep 15, 2009
      H.R. 3412: Jerusalem Embassy and Recognition Act of 2009 Introduced
      Jul 30, 2009
      H.R. 3231: Durban Taxpayer Refund Act of 2009 Introduced
      Jul 16, 2009
      H.R. 3160: Israel Foreign Assistance Appropriations Act, 2010 Introduced
      Jul 9, 2009
      H.Res. 557: Expressing support for the State of Israel's inalienable right to defend itself in the face of an imminent nuclear or military threat from Iran, terrorist organizations, and the countries that harbor them. Introduced
      Jun 18, 2009
      H.Res. 511: Commending efforts to teach the history of both Israelis and Palestinians to students in Israel and the West Bank in order to foster mutual understanding, respect, and tolerance. Introduced
      Jun 4, 2009
      H.R. 2475: Foreign Relations Authorization and Reform Act, Fiscal Years 2010 and 2011 Introduced
      May 19, 2009
      H.R. 2376: To withhold United States funding from the United Nations Human Rights Council. Introduced
      May 12, 2009
      H.R. 1605: To seek the establishment of and contributions to an International Fund for Israeli-Palestinian Peace, and for other purposes. Introduced
      Mar 19, 2009
      H.Res. 130: Expressing support for the appointment of former Senator George Mitchell as Special Envoy for Middle East Peace, and for other purposes. Introduced
      Feb 4, 2009
      H.R. 696: Egyptian Counterterrorism and Political Reform Act Introduced
      Jan 26, 2009
      H.Res. 66: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives concerning the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Introduced
      Jan 15, 2009
      H.R. 557: United Nations Transparency, Accountability, and Reform Act of 2009 Introduced
      Jan 15, 2009
      H.Res. 37: Condemning Hamas for the recent attacks against Israel. Introduced
      Jan 9, 2009
      H.Res. 42: Calling on the President and the Secretary of State to withhold United States funding for and participation in the Durban Review Conference and its preparatory activities, and for other purposes. Introduced
      Jan 9, 2009
      S.Res. 6: A resolution expressing solidarity with Israel in Israel's defense against terrorism in the Gaza Strip. Introduced
      Jan 6, 2009

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  • CARE USA drops board member over ties to Lev Leviev's settlement building empire
    • American September 8, 2010 at 11:51 am with 1 replies

      After just reading the post on the BDS movement it occurs to me that several things are being left out.
      One of those is we aren't doing anything BDS wise about boycotting the businesses in here the US of the zionist who are supporting the occupation.
      I'd like to see a list of all the US supporters of Israeli expansion in Palestine and their business and business interest take center stage also.
      I'd like to see protest in front of the casino king's establishment and in front of all businesses that are owned by those who shovel money into the settlement enterprise or congressional payola for Israel's occupation.
      It's a fact that the public will turn their ire on what is closest to them.....the US supporters are the main tumor of the occupation, up the anty, go after them.
      You can't stop Israe's occupation in Israel, you can only stop it by stopping the US element that keeps it going.
      Whatever Israel loses in BDS the US will just make up to them in more US taxpayer money and support..you have to end it here.

  • The reasons the BDS movement is 'gaining speed'
    • American September 8, 2010 at 11:31 am with 2 replies

      Why just boycott goods from the Israeli settlements..why not boycott anything made in Israel period.

      Why not demand the US institute a ban on Israeli imports? Why don't the I/P peace rallies here in the US make that a demand? It won't happen of course, but it's a good stick to poke congress and the zios with and gain public notice.

      I am sure the media would jump on it with howls and screeches from the usual suspects but it would broaden the discussion and inform the public on just how much the US has to do with propping up the occupation.

  • Are the settlers civilians?
    • American September 8, 2010 at 11:59 am

      " the settlers would (by prevailing interpretations of international law) be considered unlawful enemy combatants — terrorists, basically."

      Exactly right.
      That is how Israel regards all Palestines........and they don't distingush between those armed and not armed.
      If a settler throws a rock, whether he's 12 or 32, shoot him, that's what Israel does.

  • U.S. has 'rock solid' commitment to Israel's security as Mossad impersonates U.S. intelligence
    • American September 6, 2010 at 2:24 pm

      I agree with MRW...anti israelism is growing....publicly ...in the US

      The very public figure Israel critics like Chas Freeman aren't really disconnected from the other critics of Israel speaking out publicly against the US-Isr relationship....they are like those "loose groups" that Walts calls the Israeli lobby. LOL....Seriously though, they are 'connected' although you will never see a sign of it. At least not yet or until some big last straw falls.

      The problem with the Israeli is they have traded on the holocaust and Jews as victims as their get out of jail card so successfully for decades they think it will never be canceled.

      The good news is it will eventually be canceled, the bad news is not until they commit such an egregious act against us or someone else that we have no other choice.
      The good 'and' bad in that, depending on where your loyalities lie, is the Israelis will do just that....they will go too far.
      They will damage us further, but they then will be finished...separated from the US.

  • Neoconservatism is rightly seen as a 'current of Jewish culture'
    • American September 6, 2010 at 1:46 pm

      "Like Christianity and like Judaism, Islam is a religion of peace and a religion of war. All the religions have all the tendencies within them, and in varying historical circumstances varying beliefs and practices have come to the fore."

      That is undeniably true.
      Under all these religions are cults, sects and fractions that come to the fore and probably always will.
      To my mind the christian evangelicals are a good example of a religious cult as are the some of the zionist.

      I am not sure if it is Judaism or just the Jewish tribal culture itself or some combination that spawned the 'supremacist or militant' zionism.
      Who can tell in the various individual militant zionist whether it is secular racist zionism or religious mysticism or combinations thereof that inspire some of them?

      The christian evangelicals definitely spring solely from the religious, but among the zionist there are many for whom it seems more ethno
      cultural than religiously inspired.

      I am not into the religious aspects of the Israeli zionist issue but probably a lot of books not on the public's reading list have been and will be written about it.

      I think basically although it has a lot to do with Israel and jewish/zionist thinking, it is best left to jews to examine Judaism's part if it applies.

      The Israeli and I/P issue though can't be sidetracked by figuring this out, by considering religion or culture or it will go on for centuries like these clashes have gone on for 21 centuries already.

      It has to be based on realism, international law and universally accepted humanitarian standards............justice and law in other words.

      If you want to live in a world where religion, tribes or culture are built into decisions of law instead of the stability of unbiased law, go back to the stone age.....and start making plenty of axes and knives to defend yourself.

  • While Netanyahu harped on 'the blood of innocents,' Mitchell seemed to warn of Israel's demise
    • American September 5, 2010 at 1:16 am with 1 replies

      Actually if every jewish millionaire or billionaire gave every cent he had to Israel it still wouldn't match one year's worth of overall US taxpayer aid to Israel.
      Besides the things I listed are hundreds of other giveaways like surplus military equipment and etc...then there is the strong arming the US does on other countries to make them trade with Israel. One of the most recent ones was the US refusing to accept Egyptian cotton goods for import to the US and changing their free trades zones unless they included at least 18% Israeli goods...like ribibons and buttons...in their Egyptian producted goods...a move which cost Egyptians jobs.
      No, not every single jew or zionist in the US or elsewhere combined could provide Israel the support necessary to keep it going. To say nothing of the US UN vetos without which Israel would already be long gone.
      Israel has been the largest, longest running con game in the universe.
      If we dumped Israel a lot of US pension funds would lose a considerable amount becuase Israel would not be able to meet it's obligations, the whole ponzi scheme would go down...but...because the US also guarentees the Israeli bonds they are put into the US would have to make good on those...which in the long run would be a drop in the bucket compared to continuing to support Israel.
      Like a banker who has pumped more and more money into a bad loan trying to save the borrowers project and his bad loan money, eventually he has to cut his loses and write it off or let the bank go bust with the borrower.

    • American September 4, 2010 at 2:47 pm with 6 replies

      No one likes me saying this but some kind of "force' has to be applied to Israel to ever reach a settlement of I/P. It can be financial or military force.
      Financial force would be my first choice.
      Consider this; Israel's GDP is only 200 billion.
      I doubt most, even on here know the full extent of US propping up of Israel.
      3 billion a year in regular aid, another 3.75 billion in loan guarantees every year, another billion for 6 agencies that fund 'joint' projects in Israel for hi tech, energy, etc., 7 billion in Israeli tariff free exports to the US every year, half a billion in US pension fund investments in Israeli bonds every year, 500 million in tax deductible donations to Israel every year, emergency aid for their 1973 economic emergency, 10 million to resettle Russian Jews, restocking of US military supplies in Israel that are used by the IDF in their various attacks with Gaza and Lebanon, below cost jet fuel shipments to Israel every year, millions for US missile shield defense for Israel,...I could go on and on but it would take hours.
      You even have to go into the pork ear marks in congress to keep up with the steady flow of US taxpayer money to Israel like this year's Ackerman ear mark of 10 million for a hospital in Israel. ..in fact out of all 30 ear marks of Ackerman , all of them except five were for Jewish owned companies and companies doing business with Israel. You would have to work every day, all day just to keep tabs on the money that is funneled out of the US to Israel on a daily basis.
      And this is not even considering the reparations aid that comes from Germany, the hundreds of lawsuits and payoffs from banks and corporations for the WWII claims that go to Israel to be disbursed.
      Also consider that 28% of the Israeli public doesn't work, the largest portion being the hasidic jews because they are supported by the State and not required to work or serve in the IDF.

      Shut off the money. It's our money and I say shut the pipeline down for our own sake if not for Israel's.

      This would bring their delusion of Greater Israel in Palestine to a screeching halt. Those who like to pretend that "Israel can't be told"
      what to do are dreaming....all any US president has to do is 'whisper' in someone's ear that the US is no longer supporting Israel and it is over for Israel if they don't change their ways.

  • Hear, O Israel-- first the Pixies and Elvis Costello, now 'Massive Attack' says we won't play Jim Crow
    • American September 3, 2010 at 2:33 pm with 2 replies

      OT question....

      I sent some people here to sign up and one of them also tried to subscribe to the news letter but here's what happened..

      "When I clicked on subscribe, a streak of
      > "download...download...download" streaked (and streaked) across the top of
      > the page. Machine froze up at 201 downloads. I have been working on the
      > damn thing since; finally got rid of them, I think. Had to do a full system
      > scan and a system restore...
      >
      > It could be Firefox; it could be me."

      I don't see a contact us for the site so does anyone know what the problem she encountered could be?

    • American September 3, 2010 at 11:27 am

      O.K. Kathleen....

      thanks for the prodding..lol

      I just mailed 5 people who I know for certain will respond to my request to come sign up here.

  • Look at this list of settler-initiated crimes against Palestinians in the last few weeks
    • American September 1, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      "The US’s position as an “honest broker” is compromised not by the fact that there are so many Jews in positions of power & influence, but by the fact that there are so many fervent Zionists in those positions"

      That's true. One of the most admirable Jews in a US gov position was Amb John Gunther, a German jew and Amb to Lebanon among other countries. I would suggest you go to the Carter Libray and read his oral history but the link to his oral history is the only one out of 30 that doesn't work at the library....maybe because in it he describes an attack on him by Isralei cut outs because of his demand for even handed policy between Israel and Lebanon.
      Maybe they disabled it because Carter has had enough zio attacks...I contacted them to ask what the problem was with that link but they haven't replied.

  • Americans, what do you think of this choice?
    • American September 1, 2010 at 1:35 pm with 1 replies

      Seriously, you have to read this stuff to believe it.
      The thought process is so like the logic of the nazi supremist it's chilling.
      You can't get any more Orwellian than this plan.
      Here are a few samples of the plan and their 'justifications'.....

      link to jerusalemsummit.org

      B. Analysis
      1. Analysis of Palestinian deeds and declarations over the years make it difficult to avoid the conclusion that they are in effect both unwilling and incapable of achieving and maintaining statehood

      2. It is thus far easier to understand Palestinian conduct if one assumes that it is driven less by lack of Palestinian self determination and more by the very the existence of Jewish self determination; less by the aspiration to establish a Palestinian state and more by the aspiration to dismantle a Jewish state.

      3. The latter, and seemingly more plausible, explanation of Palestinian behavior – i.e. rejection of Jewish self determination and the dismantling of the Jewish nation state – reflects an agenda totally unacceptable by any international standards and thus must be branded as devoid of any legitimacy.

      4. Accordingly if the accepted version of the Palestinian narrative – i.e. a desire for Palestinian self determination and the aspiration for Palestinian statehood – cannot be reconciled with the history of Palestinian behavior, this narrative also must be branded as devoid of any legitimacy.

      Conclusion
      1. The establishment of a Palestinian State must removed from the international agenda.

      2. However, removing the issue of a Palestinian state from the international agenda will not eliminate the humanitarian predicament of Palestinians residing in Israeli-administered areas.

      3. This is clearly an issue that must be addressed and resolved. But it must be addressed not in political terms but in humanitarian ones.

      4. Thus, to successfully resolve the Palestinian problem, the Political Paradigm must be replaced by a Humanitarian Paradigm. This, however can only be done if the current Palestinian narrative, which fuels the Political Paradigm, is de-legitimized.

      5. Thus, the de-legitimization of the Palestinian narrative becomes a vital prerequisite to any comprehensive resolution of the Palestinian
      issue.

      Proposal
      1. A comprehensive Humanitarian Approach to the Palestinian issue would entail three major elements:

      (a) The dissolution of UNRWA – which will end the discriminatory treatment of the Palestinians with regard to their status as refugees;

      (b) The termination of ethnic discrimination against Palestinians , living in the Arab world - which will end the discriminatory treatment of the Palestinians with regard to their status as residents;

      (c) Generous relocation grants to Palestinians living in Israeli administered territories on an individual basis and not via any official Palestinian organization.

      Accordingly, the dissolution of UNRWA is an essential prerequisite for any comprehensive, durable settlement of the Palestinian issue.

      8. With the dissolution of UNWRA, the remaining, and drastically reduced, number of Palestinian refugees, should be placed under the auspices of UNHCR - in accordance with the accepted practice for all other refugee groups on the face of the globe.

      9. Those Palestinians no longer classed as refugees under the new arrangements, must be offered all the privileges afforded all other peoples resident in their current countries of domicile in the Arab world -- including the right to acquire citizenship.

      10. In order to do this, a vigorous diplomatic and media campaign must be mounted to induce Arab governments to end their harsh discriminatory behavior towards the millions of Palestinians domiciled in their countries and absorb them into their societies as fully fledged citizens. After all, even the Palestinians assert (in the opening paragraph of their National Covenant) that they are “part of the Arab Nation”.

      11. As for the Palestinians resident in Israeli administered territory, there is only one reasonable and feasible alternative that will facilitate:

      (a) extricating them from their dire humanitarian plight;
      (b) free them from the yoke of generations of misrule by their leadership;
      (c) ensure the survival of Israel as the nation-state of the Jews.

      12. This is a generous relocation and resettlement package to allow them to build a new life for themselves and their families in countries preferably, but not necessarily exclusively, with similar religious and socio-cultural conditions.

      13. In order to minimize the ability of organized Palestinian interest groups to impede the success of such an effort, the offer of financial inducement to emigrate must be "atomized" – i.e. made to individual Palestinian breadwinners on a one-to one personal level and not on a communal level via some formal Palestinian entity.15. The economic cost of such a policy of generously financed humanitarian relocation and resettlement would be eminently affordable and would compare favorably with almost all other settlement proposals on the table today. Indeed, its total cost would be around 50% of the present total US outlay on the War in Iraq!!

      Of course, if the US, the EU and other developed nations were to contribute to this effort, it could be implemented in a far shorter space of time and with almost no burden on the world economy.

  • 'How to kill goyim and influence people'
    • American August 31, 2010 at 2:33 pm

      Here's a site that is translating Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's 200 Years Together. They are raising/ have raised money to pay for a translation from the original Russian to English. Translating from the French version would probably have been easier but I guess they want to be exactly exact in the translation.

      link to ethnopoliticsonline.com

      Here is the translation of Chapter 18 "The 1920's" addressing the Jewish part in revol Russia

      link to ethnopoliticsonline.com

      I haven't had time to read thru it except for a few pages but it starts off with the breaking of the repression of the Jews in Russia and the results thereafter.

      I had looked for a translation several years ago when it was first mentioned but couldn't find one so forgot about it....but I knew that sooner or later someone would translate it and put in on the net.

    • American August 31, 2010 at 12:56 pm with 2 replies

      Well there are a couple of ways to treat this.

      We could wonder about what would happen if a group like the KKK published a similar book in the USA about the necessity of killing Jews .

      Or we could wonder why the Palestine lobby (they need one) doesn't put up huge billboards in cities advertising the Rabbi's book in the US. LOL.

      What's not funny is that the Israeli government did nothing about it.

  • More on the 'Firedoglake' controversy
    • American August 31, 2010 at 12:18 am

      Munger

      My apologies for lashing out at you.
      I am sure you have done some outstanding work and I will check it out.

      See my reply to Danaa above.

      But my friend it's not the single issues, it's the one big issue the progressives should be pursuing if they want to change anything.
      Otherwise you'll always be riding the see saw.

    • American August 31, 2010 at 12:04 am

      Danaa
      " Israel, is, indeed, a lightening rod – and a canary song – for everything that’s not working in the US politically. "
      >>>>>>>>

      Exactly.
      And my ire about I/P doesn't mean it's the only example, there are plenty of other examples of political corruption.

      But Palestine is the worst one because..
      1) it goes against everything this country 'thought' it should stand for.
      2) it shows how the US political leaders have given up not only all morality and ethics,but all pretense of respecting the very international laws we helped create.
      3) how our government has abdicated all US interest in favor of a small band of monied elite who allegiance is to a foreign country in exchange for political money.

      Can it get any worse than that? Actually, yes it can...when all the above finally climax in the proverbial perfect storm.

      I probably was a tad harsh on Munger but the so called progressive activist can't hit the bulls eye ....they shoot their arrows at symptoms not the real target......that's why they might win some little battles but always lose the big war.

      The absolute best thing anyone can ever hope for or work for is a government "uncorrupted and fair", not one that grants our every personal wish and ideological bent. "Fair" is as good as it ever gets and as much as anyone has a right to expect.
      I am out of patience with the "game" of liberals and conservatives, us and them and voting for whoever is for my particular pet issue despite what an unethica, pandering, self serving pig he/she is on other things.
      If 1/10 of the energy and words spilled over us and them, and this and that issue, and my belief vr your belief, was directed at "cleaning up the government" period, 80% of our problems would disappear along with the corrupt politicians who created them.

      Don't mind my rants.....I am just fed up with the never ending party and group activist game because it's too much like, or exactly like, the eternal never ending I/P peace talks game....neither one ever really changes anything because no one is willing to slap the 'very serious people' around and call a spade a spade.

    • American August 30, 2010 at 12:19 pm with 9 replies

      "2) Simply put, the subject matter of Mondoweiss ranks as less important than many other topics that are also long overdue for more honest evaluation. To me, the most important issue facing mankind is how to find a fairly inexpensive way to reduce carbon dioxide levels in the oceans and atmosphere, before we kill those rather important parts of our surrounding past the point of recovery, thereby reducing the viability of our own and most other species. It is happening far more rapidly than most realize. "

      You know Munger, progressives like you are one reason this dem went down to the elections office and switched to 'unaffiliated". ..joined the 45% of the voting public that is now registered as unaffiliated...is that a clue for you and both 'parties"?
      What I see among the progressives is people with a lot of little pet personal issues who are willing to trade a few bones thrown to them by the liberals for the larger moral problem of I/P and the political corruption that supports it.
      "oh well, he/she applauded the bombing of Lebanon but he/she is good on gay rights or the environment so we will support them".
      Bullshit reasoning....and one that fosters corruption.

      Your pet issue, the enviroment?..LOL...so how far do you think it's going to get in a congress and government that will sell semi genocide in Palestine for campaign donations? Do you think a government that is so corrupt it will allow what is going on in Palestine won't also screw your pet environmental issue?

      Learn to get to the bottom line..which is this....the Palestine issue is "the most glaring example" of what is wrong with the US government and political system. It is the' main tumor' because it shows the absolute 'depth of our corruption'.

      Campaign money for collective punishment, war crimes?...and that's exactly what's going on in the US-Isr scheme.....and that's a fact. Explain to us how humans can get any lower than that.

      But I bet you still don't get it.
      And all that is going to happen is the 'progressives' like you and Jane are going to get left in the dust because too many of us recognize that overall corruption of our politics is where the US position on Israel and Palestine comes from and we "have' made Palestine 'the' issue.

      If you people aren't willing to or don't care about attacking the REAL ISSUE of corruption as exemplified by the totally immoral, damaging to the US itself, US aiding of Israeli actions in Palestine then you are just part of the problem.

  • In English publication, Israeli Palestinian pol calls for -- sit down -- liberal democracy
  • Now is the time to discuss the one-state solution
    • American August 22, 2010 at 1:37 pm with 1 replies

      Well Jim, I am pretty confident that Palestines would end up like blacks in the US before civil rights and even with civil rights still suffer discrimination at the very least.
      How would the Palestines gain any equality in Israel?
      "Jewish State" has meant 'Jewish Rule'..'Jewish Majority"...that's been the goal and entire point of Israel.

      I believe the Israelis would continue to find ways to 'encourage' Palestines and Muslims to 'leave"..they already discriminate against the Arab Israeli they do have and particulary because they are afraid already of the demographics of a Arab population.

      The Jews would have all the power, all the military, all the courts, all the capital...a one state would be serving the Palestines up on a silver platter to Israel.
      Israel already demolishes Arab Israeli homes at will in Israel, already steals Palestine water. Would Palestines in Israel citizenship get as much water as the Jews? Would they let them build homes or would they house them in ghettos as laborers and workers like was done with immigrant workers in the US not long ago?

      I see nothing but more disaster in a one state solution. and I think those promoting it see it as a way to wipe out any idea of Palestine and Palestines.
      Pouf!...it would be a country and struggle down the memory hole. The zionist lie that there never was a Palestine would become there isn't a Palestine any longer.

    • American August 21, 2010 at 11:36 am with 5 replies

      Hummm. I am not sure what Ms Friedman is trying to accomplish with her piece. It seems, well she actually does say that the Palestines problem is lack of human rights and citizenship therefore a one state solution would give that to the Palestines.

      Color me verrrryyy skeptical. Of that idea and whatever her agenda is with this.

      In others words she is saying that after 40 years of Palestine fighting to save their own land, the solution is for them to hand it all over to Israel in exchange for human rights (when pigs fly) under Israeli citizenship.

      Does anyone believe for a minute that the Israelis would treat the Palestines any differently then than they do now?

      And since no one has stopped them from practicing genoicide on Palestine no one would stop them from setting up an aparthid state either.

      I can only assume, probably quite rightly, that the one state solution people are just as much "Greater Israel" adherants as their militant zionist fellows, they just put some lipstick on the pig.

  • 'Jewish voter' meme is journalistic mystification
    • American August 21, 2010 at 11:50 am with 1 replies

      That's true.
      It not the "significance of Jewish voters", it's the amount of money they put into politics. Fanatics and people with 'a cause' always work harder for their goals.
      It would be interesting to see for instance, what would happen if the majority of the black community jumped on the I/P bandwagon and made it their cause. It could happen if a new MLK type rose among them.

  • 'Cordoba House' controversy has one Pakistani American looking for a back-up plan
    • American August 19, 2010 at 6:52 pm

      Don't leave...at least not yet.

      If it ever comes to something like the Jews treatment in 1930's Germany for US Muslims in 2010, we Americans are gonna have another civil war...us against the neo nazis.
      And we will win. Neither the neos nor the zios can take and hold this country for long. We're not near as civilized and authority respecting the Germans were, we are way too rowdy.
      All hell would break loose.

  • Eden Abergil responds to critics: 'I can’t afford Arab-lovers to ruin the perfect life I live! I’ve got no remorse and no regrets.'
  • Poll: Israel continues to lose support in the US, especially among liberals
    • American August 18, 2010 at 8:59 pm

      I don't put any faith in 99% of polls particularly those commissioned or done by an agenda group.

      I do however respect the World Public Opinion Poll done by the Univ of Maryland supported by the Kennedy Fund,it' widely regarded as the most accurate and respectable polling entity.

      Their poll done even before Gaza showed an entirely different story in the US public than what we see presented all the time by suspect groups.

      The most outstanding thing in their polling was the fact that 70% OF AMERICANS SAID THEY WANTED THE US TO BE "EVENHANDED" IN THE ISRAEL PALESTINE CONFLICT. Another finding was Americans thought neither the Palestine nor Israel had done enough to bring about peace.

      You can see the entire poll 'including the questions asked' at this link.

      link to worldpublicopinion.org

      What this tells me....is that despite the slanted US news on I/P or maybe because it is so slanted it raised the public's "suspicions" after a while, the truth has seeped thru to enough people for them to see something wrong in the US support of Israel.

      IMAGINE...if all Americans knew the entire and true story about Israel, Palestine and the US. Including 'why' congress supports Israel in it's aggressive and criminal deeds.

      It would be so, so over.

  • Netanyahu's agenda
    • American August 16, 2010 at 11:10 pm with 2 replies

      "He who hesitates is lost."

      That will be on Obama political gravestone.

      "If" he had upon assuming office immediately 'forced" a fair settlement of I/P regardless of how he had to strong arm Israel, and regardless of congressional pressure, it would be a done deal, and not a factor in re election. It would be 'done' and zionistas couldn't "undo" it.

      For the 98% non jewish public it would be a welcome relief.

  • A kinder, gentler Occupation
    • American August 16, 2010 at 3:30 pm

      Well the Germans were very polite to the French when they occupied France...but it didn't seem to matter in the end. LOL

  • Updated comments policy
    • American August 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm

      You know though, I sort of like 'cabal' as a description because it does carry a certain negative that some groups deserve.

      Cabal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      A cabal is a number of people greater than two together in some close design, usually to promote their private views and interests in a church, state, ...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal

      Wall Street cabal seen derailing serious swap reform | Reuters
      Mar 31, 2010 ... NEW YORK (Reuters) - A major crisis is building in the derivatives market yet a cabal on Wall Street is blocking the formation of a clearing ...
      link to reuters.com

    • American August 13, 2010 at 11:31 pm with 1 replies

      I have never 'intercoursed' with a zionist who wasn't of the hasbara variety...are there any? Seriously.

      Would love to actually 'debate' with a zionist "if' he/she was sane and logical.
      Once upon a time I thought I was talking to a sane one and I offered that I thought the claim and notion that Israel as a safe haven and escape place for Jews was crazy because in reality in the event of world anti semitism they would be sitting ducks in tiny Israel.....then he called me an anti semite for pointing that out...and ranted about how I was denying Jews their 'peoplehood" and 'self determination" by saying that.

    • American August 13, 2010 at 11:06 pm

      Absolutely Right.
      Rage against injustice is good.
      We need more popular rage not less about a whole lot of things.

      Personally I think it is "uncivilized" to not rage against evil and unjust things.

    • American August 13, 2010 at 10:54 pm

      Huummmm...I'am thinking. ..and I'am not famous for being precise 100% of the time anyway.
      Cabal?- group?- lobby?, transparent? , not transparent?.... it might be easier to just make up a word.

      Maybe 'fraternity'.

      I don't know...I mostly ridicule and mimic the hasbara crowd and the witty's who want to and seem to re write the English langauge anyway cause e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g offends them. If they keep on we won't have any words left to use. Maybe that's the idea.

    • American August 13, 2010 at 8:53 am with 4 replies

      I want to see what is really considered anti semitic..we all know what profane and vulgar is.
      I think maybe I have seen what I consider anti semitic maybe once or twice...you know, "All" jews are this, that and the other, etc..
      But if it is considered anti semitic to say things like a small cabal of dedicated Jews in and out of government constantly try to push Israel's interest ahead of the US's then I might as well pack up and go because it is true and self evident to anyone paying attention.

  • Richard Cohen says that Arabs want to exterminate Jews
    • American August 12, 2010 at 11:38 am

      Some time in the not too distant future the conversation about Israel is going to turn to the bottom line the zionist dread most...which is:

      The US and the American people do not 'owe' the Jews anything.
      The world does not owe the Jews anything.
      No one is responsible for exterminating the Jews as well as all the others they exterminated in their camps except some long gone and dead nazis.

      That is the bottom line truth and it's time we put the holocaust propaganda about how everyone is guilty and responsible for the Jews out of business.

    • American August 12, 2010 at 11:19 am with 1 replies

      What Chaos said.

      Chaos4700 August 12, 2010 at 9:26 am
      "Unfortunately, and I’m sorry to say this, but American politics and American media both revolve around the notion of Jewish privilege — and presently, it’s Zionist who get to dictate what Jewish interests are supposed to be"

      Totally true. Ever run into a teacher's pet in grade school? Who 'enjoyed' being the teacher's pet and lorded it over the other students.
      That's the mentality of the zionist and too many Jews. We are 'special and entitled to special treatment...so there.

      As the holocaust recedes they are desperate trying to hold onto their 'special treatment"...so it' anti semitism and holocaust 24/7.

      Everyone is sick of it. Especially because of what they DO on their holocaust get out of jail free card.

      So count me as not sympathic to the screeching and demanding and whaling.

  • Israeli blackmail: You must do what we can’t, because if you don’t, we will
    • American August 11, 2010 at 11:09 pm with 9 replies

      I'd like to be confident about that.

      But ...remember when?...we thought even Bush would not be so insane as to attack Iraq...are or least I was one of ones who thought that.

      We know that congress would support Israel attacking Iran. The dems in particular are run by AIPAC and their jewish campaign donors. The Israeli cabal in congress has been laying the resolutions to support this for years. These people are not sane, the politican's world begins and ends in the incest tank of our halls of power. They are to themselves like royal Gods removed from whatever devastation would actually happen to this country or the people by fighting Iran for Israel.

      So the only question is what will Obama , the politician, do when that happens. And how hard will the military push back on congress getting the US involved?

      I would advise those who can to get their shit in order cause if Israel does hit Iran and it turns into a regional war that drags the US in, then this generation is going to learn the real meaning of sacrifice.

  • Judt: 'You cannot help it if idiots and bigots share your views'
    • American August 10, 2010 at 9:52 am

      Witty,

      Why aren't you living in Israel? I am honestly curious.
      I mean, we see people like you, and most even more rabid,
      on every blog all over the net defending, agitating for Israel, excusing acts by Israel that no decent person would excuse.
      Why are the Jews like yourself who are passionately attached to another country, to the point of illogical obession, not living in that country?
      I'am serious, why are you here instead of there?
      All your arguments are for 'your people ' and all your defenses of Israel are for 'your people', it's your religious homeland, your 'cause'....why aren't you there either fighting for it or building it or whatever?

      I don't know how many Jews support the notion that Israel is their 'true home' but why would those who are consumed by their true "homeland" not be living there?
      Why are almost half of all the world's Jews living in the United States?

      Why are you here when many of your tribe illogically blame the US and guilt trip the US for your holocaust and constantly accuse Americans of anti semitism?
      Why do you choose to live in this non discriminatory democracy and not the Jewish controlled and Jewish majority of Israel that you beleive in?

      If I had been passionate about the Irish cause I would have moved to Belfast or been involved on the ground.
      But totally committed to Israel people like you are like yapping , braying , dogs that run around the neighborhood using other people's lawn to crap on instead of their own yard.
      Why aren't you doing your business in your own yard?
      Why? Why has the US and world put trillion of dollars into building a state for the Jews when half of them like you aren't living there?
      I see it as hypocriscy. I see it as you have the idea that Jews,unlike all others, are entitled to have their cake and eat it too.

  • Slater: rightwing Jewish support for Israel risks anti-Semitic backlash when U.S. wakes up
    • American August 9, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      LOL...Israel would be a third world shit hole buddy if not for US taxpayers.

      Right now it's just a gold plated toilet we dump money down.

      Someone mentioned that this blog is strictly about Israel and that is true, however there are things going financially in the US that are going to affect our support of Israel if financial scenario number two comes to pass and odds are it will.

    • American August 8, 2010 at 11:36 pm

      I have to say I fall more toward Psycho's line of thought or questioning.
      Actually just about any religion or ethnic group could claim the eternal victim card. 'Oh look how we were treated in Rome 15 centuries ago or France 6 centuries ago or China 2 decades ago.

      I mean seriously, claiming anti semitism came out of nothing is like beleiving in the virgin birth. Groups of people or tribes have always clashed thruout history due to different interest or goals or the means they used to ensure their survival or thriving. Or just things that others are repulsed by in their culture or whatever.

      The thing is why do the Jews persist in using anti semitism, as if it's something all non jews are born with, as a defense every time they get caught out or have people oppose their individual or collective actions or agendas?
      An idiot can plainly see in current events that the reason dislike and opposition to the Jews is occuring now for instance is ...drum roll please...because of what they 'are doing' right now that isn't even in dispute.
      Anyone mean to tell me that this is the first time Jews have clashed with others or within the countries they lived in because of their own activities or attitudes or following their leadership into trouble?
      Nope, I don't' believe that.
      Some times people can get picked on or abused or scapegoated...BUT NOT ALL THE TIME...not in every single instance since the beginning of time like the Jews claim.

      Just guessing or theorizing...maybe it started with "some' Jews crossing some line with the rulers or gov and because of the Jews intense tribalism,(sticking togetherness) they all got kicked out by said ruler or gov just for safety measures. Then I can imagine the Jewish leaders or elites that actually caused the trouble telling their followers and lesser Jews that this wasn't their fault, (thereby covering their own elite ass), that Jews are just hated for no reason by the others.
      Yea, I can see it starting that way and becoming first a Jewish truism handed down from generation to generation, and then becoming a tool to escape responsibility and justify their own actions toward others.

      Jerry Slater sounds like a smart and well meaning guy, but in him also you can see that his "some" experiences" with bigots , reinforced in him in a way what he had been taught as a Jew about anti semtism being a universal 'lurking thing' in most of society.

      Listen, we can slap people and groups around, call them names criticize them for political or religious or any reasons at all. That's what happens when important things are up for grabs in a country or the world, or some are offended by behavior they find disgusting or dangerous in someone or some group..

      That doesn't translate to MOST PEOPLE wanting to kill ALL the Jews or blaming ALL the jews or believing ALL the jews are the same or in on the same neferious plot.

      My advice to Jews would be..give this anti semitism shit up....just drop it....quit chewing on it and blaming everything on it. There aren't enough real anti semites in this country to elect a dog catcher much less start a holocaust.

      Is it possible Jews as a whole will be viewed with suspicion, maybe resented..yep, that's happening now a bit. BUT, the saving grace is we aren't primitive anymore, our second thought after 'Oh no it's a Jew at the US Treasury!" or where ever ....is hold on, dont' be an ass, that doesn't mean he's one of those MF'ing Israel firsters whose gonna embezzle all our money for Israel.
      Just give it the hell up and man up and step up and be willing to say yea, 'they' don't like 'some' of us because of what 'some of us ARE DOING...not just because they hate "the Jews".
      That's a fucking cop out.

      Then we will listen to you if and when you ever have to go up against actual and real anti semites.

      Meanwhile this anti semite, anti semite is just pissing people off and wearing out what little patience they have left, if any, with the US-Isr-ME-I/P- Jewish Lobby- Iran schemes that most Americans see very clearly going on and realize as a threat to their welfare.

      And byw this rant applies only to those who it applies to.

  • Hedges's 2001 account of attack on Gaza boys anticipated Goldstone Report
    • American August 9, 2010 at 1:40 am

      Hedges doesn't need to.

      There are too many diverse people who have witnessed the same things by the IDF, from journalist to UN observers to our own pentagon liaisons to the Israeli military.

      Go ask Col Pat Lang, pentagon liaison to the IDF, about what he witnessed when bored IDF shot at a Palestine woman out hanging her laundry...just for sport.

    • American August 9, 2010 at 1:23 am

      What is missing in these people?
      Something is missing.

  • media conspiracy theory
    • American August 6, 2010 at 4:31 pm

      I would think Harman would be of more use to AIPAC and Israel in the congress than at Newsweek...so I am not sure she would leave unless she did get voted out.
      It gives me nightmares that Schumer might be the dem head and that Berman is chair of the Foreign Relations Committee and people like Harman are anywhere close to Homeland Security.

      I keep trying to look forward to see where this horribly unbalanced Israel and zionist influence in our congress leads us in the ME. ...will it lead us to some kind of action that will finish off the already dwindling US power and influence, as well as our already almost dead economy?

      I see that Obama's popularity in Arab nations, almost everywhere actually, has hit rock bottom. They've been fooled again by the US.

      One of these days we have get us an actual leader instead of a politican.
      Maybe that will come after the US crashs like Russia or bleeds out in Arabia or Asia.

  • AIPAC: 'Congresswoman Mary Jo Kilroy signed an anti-Israel letter'
    • American August 6, 2010 at 6:02 pm with 6 replies

      Someone explain something to me.

      Is it that the politicians don't know or that they don't care that 70+ % of Americans don't actually "support" Israel.
      And that 'don't support' in the public is either out right 'don't like Israel' or 'could care less' either way?

      I might not be typical but I quit giving any money to the DNC because of their Israel fetish..I send checks direct to a select few who I agree with.

      So don't know or don't care...any idea which it is? I would say don't care.

      When I first started following this mess I read a interesting sort of expose in the WP. Can't remember the journalist name but he burrowed into the Evangelical community and went to their big Washington conference gathering.
      What grabbed my attention was he described in one part the woman evangelist, Kaye or something was her name, and how she told the audience that her "first allegiance" was not to the US but to Israel. Just said it outright.

      But what happened as he described it was how the audience was taken so aback by this and so was uneasy about that statement that a sort of rumbling went thru the audience.

      You don't have to be one of us rubes out here to understand that no matter what your crazy religious beliefs, a declaration of a higher loyalty to a foreign country, Israel or not, instead of your own, is gonna make people raise eyebrows and glance around to see if everyone else heard the same thing.

      I can relate that sitting around with others listening to the campaign speeches where politicans swear their fidelity to Israel and try to outdo each other on pledges to Israel elicits the same raised eyebrows and "what the hell?" comments and sideways looks.

      Do they have the faintest idea that a lot of anti Israelism comes from this?
      And probably a lot of the anti jewism (zionistas to us, jews to the less informed) comes from this because everyone knows that Israel is the "Jewish state."
      That people who aren't even knowledgeable about the I/P conflict react with shock and disgust at politicians saying 'hey if you elect me I will spend every last drop of US treasure and blood to protect the foreign country of Israel.

      It affects most people the same way it would if your wife told you she's going to give all your clothes to her boyfriend and be cooking all his meals but she isn't going to give you a divorce because she will be needing your paycheck to support him.

      It's so orwellian, so weird, so...so..so..whatever the word is....that I can't see how is going to go on much longer without it becoming an issue with the non jewish public.

  • Israel says video of crying Palestinian boy was staged 'to make cheap anti-Israel propaganda'
    • American August 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm with 1 replies

      Was the arrest of the Palestine for "unlawfully taking some water" to drink, water his garden, whatever, also staged?

      The Israeli PR people have shit for brains.

  • Zionist org says that all people care about their children except one group
    • American August 5, 2010 at 9:13 pm

      Yea, he is.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 8:00 pm

      Oh gawd....Howard Stern?
      Way too out there for me.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 7:56 pm with 4 replies

      I understand your examples......and choices people make for principle.

      And don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge anyone their religion or beliefs in whatever helps them live their life...unless it is something that harms others.

      But I guess my mind balks at things I am ask to accept that I consider absurd. My family is mostly Episcopalian but my brothers and I started at catholic kindergarten and then off to Jesuit run boarding school..because my mother's baby brother had converted to Catholicism in college, entered the priesthood, then got sent to the Vatican and became a Jesuit . He convinced my parents that a catholic education was superior to others, which is was actually. Anyway, I had 12 years of critical thought, propaganda recognition and uses and every argument, justification and case for and against, pro and con on almost anything you can think of that concerns Catholicism, God, Jesus, infallibility and all kinds of other religion, philosophy and so on.
      I actually had to read the Koran in high school as part of our studies and remember thinking it was less bloody than the Old Testament.

      The bible was a corkscrew that never fit my brain.......my little cells would withdraw like a turtle head into it's shell when someone tried to tell me it is the actual 'word of God'.

      Sorry, can't help my mental bent on this.....and it's not an insult to others beliefs.....but as said, to each their own.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm with 4 replies

      Sorry, 'ttp://www.blingcheese.com/video-32/insults.htm' does not exist or is not available

      Your link doesn't work.

      And then google showed up that link in some comedian sites, and one about naked girls and another about bananna bread, so I have no idea

    • American August 5, 2010 at 3:48 pm

      Well I don't like 'mobs' as a means to change or cures.

      But then I don't like the eternal equivocating stall game either while Rome burns.

      So we mobbed up.... the squeaky wheel gets the grease....we're squeaking.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 3:34 pm with 6 replies

      The reflection on child sacrifice in the story of Abraham and Isaac is one of the great contributions to world literature and continues to influence us all."

      Yep, it influenced me all right...right into regarding the bible as a primitive allegorical tale.

      Who, in their right mind would 'worship' a God that taunted his creatures by demanding, even as a 'test', that they sacrifice their child?

      The only reason I can figure why people are willing to ' overlook' the primitiveness of the bible is their human need to believe in the bible promise they will continue to exist after death somewhere in a hereafter.

      The older I get, the more I ruminate on such things, the more I find myself leaning toward the Buddhist view of the universe.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 3:04 pm

      Look, it's obvious you are going to lose any 'debate'.

      There is nothing you can say about Palestine suicide bombings that can't be compared to deliberate Israeli civilian bombings except Israel's are on a larger scale.
      If you say Muslims celebrate their children dying for their cause and taking some enemy with them, they can point out Israelis are proud of their IDF sons for killing the enemy children and Israeli children had fun writing nasty notes on bombs dropped on Lebanon.

      If you say the Muslims build monuments to their martyrs, they can point out that you celebrate every year at the shrine you built for Baruch Goldstein who mowed down 50 unarmed Muslims, men, women and children, at prayer in their mosque.

      Being an American mongrel and not part of either side, I just total the marks on both sides. I find your side 'more' guilty in all areas, from the original cause of the conflict to your mind numbing moral hypocrisy.
      That's just the way cookie crumbled on the facts.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 2:39 pm

      Well actually the tradition here is to first say ...'hey, wait a minute what your doing isn't fair'...'stop doing such and such'...you're being a bully and lying and so forth, quit it".

      Then, when that doesn't make a dent,... we move on to 'racist whackos' and 'nazi propagandist.'

      Think of the American quaintism of the farmer and the mule..after the third warning it's a 2 by 4 beside the head.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 1:41 pm with 5 replies

      O.K....let me say this...everytime I see or hear these cretans use "our" as in "our" America or try to say they are representative of American 'values'......I am going to remind that they are not part of "us", or America, or anything but themselves.

      We all know why they try to co op the American "our" and 'we'.
      The parasite hitches a ride.

      They are not us...the us we use to be or the us we want to be.
      They are not American, they are strictly zionist Israelis.

  • The cultural boycott and the outraged artist
    • American August 6, 2010 at 12:37 am

      I am going to come to your house witty and throw you out.
      Then I 'am going to bulldoze it to rubble.
      And rip every living thing out of the soil of your land.
      I'am going to do this as your children watch.
      I will shoot and kill your children if they look sideways at me.
      I am going to see to it there is no medicine if your family becomes ill.
      I going to steal your water for my swimming pool.
      If you try to go anywhere I will strip search you and your wife and humilate you in front of others.
      I am going to starve, beat and humilate any shred of dignity or self respect out of you and prevent you from providing even the rock bottom necessities of life for your family.
      And I'am going to be doing this every day for decades and decades till you lose all hope and die.
      And no one will care.

      So just give me your address, we need to get this re education boot camp going for you right away cause I can see you aren't a fast learner.

    • American August 5, 2010 at 1:18 pm with 1 replies

      Well, as the man said...

      "Something happens....then you have to make a choice and take a side"..
      Graham Green, The Ugly American.

      Not taking a side is taking a side. Artist don't get special moral exemptions any more than your ordinary person does.

  • The Lebanese Army finally acts to protect Lebanon's sovereignty
    • American August 5, 2010 at 1:04 am

      Gotta say...if I was a Hezbollah,..or even a Lebanon military commander,
      my idea of reasonable action would be kidnapping a IDF battalion and making them do that cute little hip hop dance they did in occupied Palestine all over the cluster bomb fields in Lebanon.
      Why shoot 'em when you can put them to good use on a clean up team.

  • My daughter begs me not to go to Gaza
    • American August 4, 2010 at 10:45 am

      This post would make a great bill board.

    • American August 4, 2010 at 10:41 am

      No sane person sees how a Jew could be anything but anti zionist.
      Zionism is a supremacist, separatist mentality.
      Most humans are against that kind of belief.
      It's what killed millions of jews...and handicapped humans and gypsies and other 'inferior' people.

  • That tree was in Israel territory
    • American August 4, 2010 at 11:32 pm

      Excellent comment. Very interesting.

    • American August 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm with 1 replies

      Well I just used Taxi's link to read the Crisis Group Report on the Israel-Lebanon-Syria-Iran standoff.

      According to them Israel is 'hesitating' to start a 'big' confrontation because next time instead of fighting 'only' Lebanon or 'only' Syria or 'only' Iran, they would be facing the combined forces of Lebanon, Syria and Iran, and all their non state actors as well, and who knows who else, since they have agreed to come to each others aid in the event of an attack by Israel.

      Most expert military men don't think much of Israel's military....Col Pat Lang who was pentagon liaison to the Israel military described them as undisciplined and more like a teenage swat team than a trained military. And they have a huge aversion to causalities... and conventional warfare on the others soil...which the experts say would have to take place because Israel could not subdue the kind of fighters and tactics they would be up against by airpower alone.
      What it means it seems, is that Israel knows it's going to get a hell of whomping and huge losses next time around, win, lose or draw.

      And.......although the US might send Isr weapons and money as usual, the US, as of now, probably wouldn't send our own military forces to fight for Israel.

      So bottom line, if Israel can't get a real over whelming force like the US military involved in their fighting and they have to lose large numbers of their own they aren't keen to start that regional war...at least not right now.

    • American August 4, 2010 at 4:15 pm with 3 replies

      I been hopping around reading comments on this all over the net and I think we can say, bottom line, about 'where the tree was' .. is....no one cares.

      Like the boy who cried wolf, people quit listening to the Israeli protestations of innocence in all their former provocations long ago.
      So guess what?...the facts no longer matter for them. Damn!... the one time we didn't lie and no one believes us!

      So Israeli got 'premptively' slapped by the over zealous Lebanon Forces 'concerned about their "national security'. Hummm... that sounds familiar doesn't it? Hello?

      So what next?....a million Lebanese must pay for one dead IDF?..isn't that the usual routine?

      Luckily the UN just ratified the world wide ban on the use of cluster bombs....but then israel doesn't recognize international law so they might deliver some more to Lebanon.

  • Another prominent American Jew pronounces himself 'disgusted' with Israel
    • American August 4, 2010 at 11:28 am

      Totally frivolous remark but I was reading about how Duke Univ. has succeeded in making an "invisibility cloak"...not kidding. Don't have the full details but something to do a material that bends light waves.
      Anyway the Peres statement reminded me of it. It's like the zios think they are wearing some invisibility cloak where we can't see what they are doing , only hear what they say.

    • American August 4, 2010 at 11:16 am

      That people 'learn' to respect zionism?

      Wow...that's a little midget nazi jingo if I ever heard one. Heil Zio!

      What happens if we don't learn to 'respect' zionism?
      Do you confiscate our land and bulldoze our houses down or what?

    • American August 4, 2010 at 11:09 am with 1 replies

      "Q: How do we know which is which [re anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism]?

      A: It’s not that easy to define, but easy to identify. Broadly speaking, the relating of Israel to Nazi Germany and Zionism to Nazism, that seems to me to be strongly anti-Semitic in its impulse. It is a kind of malicious attempt to identify persecuted with the persecuted.'

      Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
      We see what you do.
      We see how it is like in many ways what the nazis did.
      Therefore we compare you to the nazis.
      Particulary because you have screamed for 65 years about what the nazis did to you while you are doing the exact same thing to others.
      The persecuted are now doing the persecuting.
      What?....you thought no one would notice?
      .

  • War of the hedges
    • American August 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm with 1 replies

      Well I have to be educated on this....I read that the Blue Line is and isn't the border because it crosses over onto Lebanon territory and even a Lebanon highway at various places..'gaps' theycall it...and it was at one of these 'gaps' that the IDf did their tree trimming.
      Then I see that the Blue Line has on each side a strip of land before the fences of Israel and lebanon are erected.....so that strip is sort of like a no man's land? And being a no man's land shouldn't the UN peacekeepers be the only ones allowed in there to trim trees?
      Am I confused?

  • What Zionism has wrought
    • American August 3, 2010 at 3:08 pm

      About to say the same.........just can't trust myself to say anything sane about this type of thing......makes me want to yell just bomb the nazi sobs to hell and be rid of them....even when my mind knows the innocent Israelis don't deserve to go up in smoke.

      Fortunately I realize I should never be the one to have a finger on the button.........zero patience with bullies....too much of a personal tendency to meet force with totally overwhelming force.....their first act would be their last. Maybe my own failing in this way, like the zionist failing, is why I understand that the zionist can't be changed or reasoned with, only destroyed.

  • notes on my racism (part 2)
    • American August 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm with 2 replies

      I have to say my experience was pretty much the same. I was a full grown adult before I ever heard anyone allude to the 'difference' between gentiles and jews...and oddly enough it came from a Jew concerned about his 'acceptance' by someone or some group, I can't even remember exactly what it was about now. ..but I remember he was dating a gentile girl at one time so maybe it was about being accepted by her family.
      He must have worked it out, whatever it was, because he's still jewish and been married to another gentile girl for 2o some years.

    • American August 3, 2010 at 1:09 pm

      I think Phil observes the Jews who are the most publicized Jews that he thinks "have made it" and have wealth or influence and translates that to Jews as a whole.
      As another poster on here mentioned, the vast majority of Jews aren't in that catagory any more than most gentiles are. They are part of the lower,middle class and upper middle class of ordinary Americans with the same practical concerns, life style traditions, or expectations and in the same situtations as everyone.
      I am also one who thinks elite educations are often overestimated, depending I guess on if you need that bump to get into some arena where it counts. Almost all of my family. for several generations has gone to Harvard, Yale or Duke out of tradition mainly, simply to come back and run their own companies and businesses, not as a stepping stone to some corporate or political career. My two younger brothers are Harvard MBA 's and one of them is, I hate to say, truely an idiot in the intellectual curiousity sense or anything outside of his own bizness interest. At the same time two of their friends from a Jewish family both went to the Univ of Flordia to come back and work in their father's business.
      Damn if I know what this means except maybe the choices most people make, besides depending on their financial ability, is determined more by their lives in their own 'regional' sphere than some 'universal' ethnic or religious attitude.

    • American August 3, 2010 at 11:59 am

      What this tells me is what we already know.
      People get their attitudes mainly from their parents teachings and their closest social circle.
      Some question and break out with different ideas, some don't, maybe for lack of certain brain sparks or experiences or whatever.
      As a gentile the main difference I see is gentiles, at least US gentiles, weren't really 'obsessed' with the Jews to the degree the Jews were obsessed with the gentile establishment because of being outsiders. Many gentiles were, as a society, discriminatory of course, but had the majority been as obsessed as insiders as the Jews were as outsiders, which is natural for outsiders, Jews would still be mainly 'outsiders'.
      You would think that inside-outside line would have been more erased in the Jewish community by now and maybe it has by the majority for all practical purposes. But as we see in Phil's emotional-intellectual battle in the struggle of identity, truth and what is reality and what isn't, the ghost still lingers.

  • Gentleman's disagreement
    • American August 2, 2010 at 9:12 pm

      Britain has had a lot of experience with zionist terrorism, both in England and Palestine that no doubt informs their view of Israel..
      I have a British friend whose Uncle was killed in the King David hotel bombing and another whose wife was previously married to a young sailor who was killed on the USS Liberty.
      It's a small world...full of glass houses.

      link to britains-smallwars.com

  • State Department once warned against a tactic the NYT now blesses in Afghanistan
    • American August 1, 2010 at 11:04 pm

      Well o.k., I can see the benefit of assassinations 'if' they were a method of avoiding all out war.
      But to get to world peace thru assassination we have to use my target list.....heheheh.

  • Israeli high school students assisted in state's destruction of Bedouin village
    • American August 2, 2010 at 11:40 am with 1 replies

      Can't say that I particulary care about your or anyone's "discomfort" or how "offended" their little feelings are considering all the people that, as a result of the zionist experiment just like the nazi experiment, are too dead to be offended.

      German 'Ayran' Nation Jewish 'Jewish' Nation..same difference.

    • American August 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm with 4 replies

      The similarity between zionism and nazism is not new....that same mentality has been there since the beginning.

      [8.44] January 1946, British Consul, New York reporting a mass demonstration for Jewish freedom put on by the New Zionist Organization of America. "It was constantly patrolled by the Betarim, the new Jewish Youth Army, attired in a Hebrew version of the old Nazi Bund uniform." "Great Britain was public enemy no. 1 of the Jewish people, more dangerous and shrewder than the Nazis..."

      [8.65] February 1946, formation of B´rith Trumpeldor of America or Betar, affiliated with the NZO. "there is noticeable similarity in the organisation´s character, structure and aims to those of the Hitler Youth…", reported by British Embassy, Washington.

      I decided some time ago to regard zionism as a ' psychopathic cult', like nazism, that's the only way I, at least, can explain it. Even the zionist who say they are zionist only in the sense that they want Israel 'to exist' can't be exactly normal unless they are deaf, dumb and blind and never noticed what it has taken from other people for Israel 'to exist.'
      And don't even get me started on our psychopaths in congeress.
      Seriously, for a decade I have tried to figure out what it is that has produced these crazies to begin with and allowed them to run wild in the world. If Israel was a person instead a country's government it would have been pronounced clinically insane and locked away as a threat to himself and others.
      Usually when I try out different theories on how the zionista managed to enthrall so many otherwise normal Jews by asking it is their culture or religion or tribalism or what?.. I get called an anti semite.
      If I asked what caused the Jim Jones cult crazies I'd probably get a rousing sociological discussion instead.
      Yea I've read the books like Jacqueline Rose's the Question of Zion that say zionism is a collective psychosis.
      I think I have gotten to the point where I don't care about the reasons or causes or whatever of these zionist nutcases, or the reasons for why we have to work within our corrupt system with our corrupt politicans to change our corruption. Don't want to hear the explanations or excuses or justifications for any of it...or anything at all. I just want them all gone. Pouff!.....disappeared in to the ether zone from whence they can never return. So we can all have a little bit of peace and quiet in one corner of the world at least. If we could have just one decade or even a few years free of crazies calling the shots people might start to remember the difference between normal and crazy.

  • the battlefield of public opinion is a psychological minefield
    • American August 1, 2010 at 3:19 pm with 1 replies

      "but in the end your hatred and your inability to look at all of the angles of the conflict will only perpetuate Palestinian suffering"

      Yea...I love this ploy...it's the world inability to be 'fair' because of their inate Jew and Israel hatred to see Israels actions as 'only equal' to Palestine actions that is responsible for Palestine suffering.

      Don't ya love it?...lets discuss this here conflict another 65 years while Israeli teenagers lounge around on the furniture of their homeless victims. Yea, gotta perpetuate those peace talks another 40 years so we can examine all the 'angles'.

    • American August 1, 2010 at 2:54 pm with 2 replies

      Listen honey, you aren't ever going to get any respect from the kind of people that use religion in the way you are ranting against....just ain't gonna happen.

      Write them off or just ridicule them with humor before you melt down.

  • Timing is everything
    • American August 1, 2010 at 2:38 pm

      I said this would happen.
      That even though the resolution excluded the recognition of the holocaust as a basis for reparations that American courts would turn out to be avenue for these lawsuits.

  • 'Every Democrat assumes the biggest discernible group giving money is Jews'
    • American August 1, 2010 at 12:36 pm with 1 replies

      Well I am just going to comment from my southern perch in the heart of evangelical land.
      First, I don't know where those 'large numbers of christian zionist" are.
      In most places thru out the south the evans are religious fringes usually referred to in derogatory terms or with a 'uh hu sure' polite way of not having to comment of their misguidedness. They are so outside of the mainstream Protestant majority that makes up the religious communities of the south they aren't even a topic of conservation, aren't involved in and don't have any local political clout. Mostly they are the undereducated lower and lower middle class and don't have much money to speak of to donate to anything. They might give a few bucks a week to the TV God merchants or some storefront evang in town but that's about it.
      And no doubt most of the money collected from these poor fools ends up in Hagee's and his ilks pocket with some token and publicized sum being donated to Israel. But the whole deal is these christian zios are in for the doomsday "Salvation" scenario, really. Hard to believe this kind of stupidy but there it is. I was out looking at some property in the country last month and got in a conservation with one. Not a bad guy, nice actually, but telling me how the "prophecy" is coming true cause the world is in such bad shape. They aren't necessarily even raving lunatics, but very simpled minded people who have just latched onto religion, biblical prophecy and the doomsday and chris- zio theme as something to explain their universe and how they are going to get their salvation. Being when God comes back and bleievers- non believers battle takes place in Israel and then all the true believers go straight to heaven.
      Basically both the numbers and the clout of christian zios are way over estimated fromnwhat I see and every non tradition group sometimes lumped in with them. But of course the leaders of this want people to think it is a popular and powerful majority group because it inflates the idea of their political power, gives it some kind of popular legitimacy among their members and encourages other to join.

  • The children whose spirit a siege couldn't break
  • I felt alone till I heard about the Jewish boat to Gaza
    • American July 31, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      Interesting. So to pave the way for their self interested tribalism they hatched the anti semitism egg as a missile defense shield to all incoming criticism?

    • American July 31, 2010 at 12:44 pm

      I think Jews who are involved in these efforts are doing it out of moral conviction but also stressing it's Jewish efforts because they are afraid of all Jews being tarred by zionista brush.

      But bottom line, the jewish "people" tribalism, not religious connection, is the Jews fatal flaw...always has been.
      I have tried, off and on, to get to the real orgin of what Jews call anti semitism, where it first appeared and why. I found that 90% of everything written on anti semitism is written by Jews who basically say there is no reason. That Jews are the world's official scapegoats, again for no reason and people are anti semites, again for no reason.
      I finally gave up. It's like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg.

    • American July 31, 2010 at 11:37 am

      Beautiful.

  • Why did a Democratic congressman's aide speak of 'Jewish money'?
    • American July 31, 2010 at 1:15 pm

      It was the Washington Post seveal years ago that did an article on the Dems getting 60% of their total campaign money from Jews.

      I love all the little Israeli activist you see on the net who threaten to leave the dems if they don't cowtow to Israel ...where would you dems be without our jewish money and vote, etc.,etc...... ad nausum.

      The bigger the zionist hubris gets the longer the way down is gonna be. Everything flips eventually.

  • 'ADL' statement rationalizing bigotry draws wide scorn
    • American July 31, 2010 at 12:12 pm

      No it isn't.
      Israel long ago revised the definition of holocaust survivors..it includes 'all' Jews who 'left' Europe during WWII plus any Jews who lived in countries subject to German control. If a French Jew for instance moved to the US 'prior' to German occupation he is a 'holocaust survivor'.

      In fact several years ago Israel sued Germany for more money to 'provide' counseling for children and grandchildren of holocaust survivors becuase of their 'distress" over the holocaust.

      It just goes on and on.

      I think though. the day is coming when they stick their hand in the cookie jar one too many times and someone cuts it off.

    • American July 31, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      “Survivors of the Holocaust are entitled to feelings that are irrational,” he said. Referring to the loved ones of Sept. 11 victims, he said, “Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted.”

      Entitled
      In pepertutity
      With total immunity
      Forever and ever
      Amen.

      What are they on now ?..their third generation of entitlement?

  • cognitive dissonance on Jewish power
    • American July 31, 2010 at 12:29 am

      Well the networks must not gotten the message in time cause I am right now looking at re run of Stone's JFK on TV.

    • American July 31, 2010 at 12:11 am with 2 replies

      Actually Stone is right. One has to read 'real" historians....and lay off the Hollywood movies, to understand what was going on in Germany after WWI and before the outbreak of WWII.
      It's complicated and I don't want to be long winded and my mind is rusty anyway. But a few points regarding why the Jews were focused on in Germany.
      A lot of people want to pretend Hitler was just a mad man who personally hated Jews...when actually his hatred was more political than personal...and influenced somewhat by the Russian experience with what was called Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, Judeo-Communism. Hardly ever mentioned in discussions like these is the fact that Germany and the Soviet Union had signed a non-aggression pact (1939, I think) between the two countries and pledged neutrality by either party if the other were attacked by a third party which remained in effect till Germany invaded the Soviet Union.
      How does this relate to Hitler and the Jews?...Hitler paid attention to the Russian experience with the Jews and Bolshevism and not only the Jews , but any others involved in it becuase large numbers of Russian Jews left Russia for Germany after WWI and were one of the political groups agitating in Germany. Hitler also paid attention to how Stalin was cleaning out the Russian gov of any strains of Bolshevism and particularly the Jews who figured in it.
      Then there was also popular dislike of Jews in general by the Germans because of the few Jewish financiers who seemed to have prospered during WWI when no one else did and were suspected of double dealing and war profiteering with the enemy.
      Hitler used that common feeling among the populace to gain support .
      He made some kind of comment, I can't remember exactly, to the Russians that the Jews would not repeat in Germany what they did in Russia and had played their final act on the 'world stage'..or words to that effect.
      So the tales of his personal dislike of Jews probably had less if anything to do with the Jews than his political views of them as enemies of the state.
      Then when the World Jewish Congress started stomping around and declared economic war on Germany and it was splashed on headlines around the world the already economically devestated German public and Hitler upped the anty on the Jews and away it went.
      Of course there were a lot of other political plays being made in Germany in competition with Hitler but it's way too long to go into here.

    • American July 30, 2010 at 2:39 pm with 1 replies

      Oh shut the fuck up.

      * 62 to 78 million total dead in WWII.

      * 40 to 52 million civilian deaths.....*Not counting Jews.

      * 13 to 20 million from war related disease and famine.

      * 20 to 25 million military dead.

      * 5 million POW dead.

      * Counties with highest civilian war related NON JEWISH deaths from Japanese war crimes- China 3,695,000, Indochina 457,000, Korea 378,000, Indonesia 375,000, Malaya-Singapore 283,000, Philippines 119,000, Burma 60,000 and Pacific Islands 57,000.

      * Non Jewish Nazis Camp deaths - 130,000 to 500,000 Gypsies , 150,000 to 200,000 handicapped persons, 2.6 to 3 million Soviet prisoners of war, 1.8 to 1.9 million NON JEWISH Poles , 4.5 to 8.2 million Soviet civilians , 10,000 Gay men, 1,000 Jehovah's Witnesses, 1,000 to 2,000 Roman Catholic clergy.

      The world is not responsible for the fact that the Jews numbered only around 11 million and therefore 5 million deaths reduced their population by 50%.
      WWII wasn't about the Jews, it was about the fate of half of the free world and billions of people.
      You're the only ones who have made a career out of whining about their losses and showing your ungrateful ass when you ought to be kissing the asses of the US and the Allies cause if Hitler had won there wouldn't have been a single European Jew left alive.
      Everyone is tired of it

  • Bay Area billboards 'thank' the US for Israel's blank check
    • American July 29, 2010 at 7:53 pm with 2 replies

      I am not familiar with the Henry Ford writtings, never read them, althought I have seen it referred to when speculation on jewish connection to money comes up......but I'll follow the link and take a look..

      The theory I advanced concerning Jewish money power and original money vrs. use of money was strictly my own observations in these modern times, and as I said may or may not be a correct observation. Besides perhaps applying to the Jews, it's no secret that any and all WS 'ers are referred to as sucker fish by the industry corps frequently....if not publically.
      But the Jewish relationship to money and making it makes sense to me if we can believe the conventional history that jews were forbidden or prevented from being land owners and other avenues to wealth in those days. And the history of what were called court Jews, and that because of restrictions on them Jews were forced into or drawn into the "commerce of money"....and it's a trend that has continued.

    • American July 29, 2010 at 1:20 pm with 1 replies

      Come to think of it..as a reply to myself...I think Phil as given some small examples of just that as in the protest and boycotting of some pro Israeli settler jewelery store owner in NY.

    • American July 29, 2010 at 1:15 pm with 8 replies

      I wonder if the NYT would run a full page ad headlined..

      "How much Harry..for Americans to Buy Back the US Congress from Israel and AIPAC?"

      Some billboards around DC saying ..."You are Now Entering Israeli Occupied Territory" would be appropriate.

      Although it's true we have some very wealthy Jews that spend huge sums influencing congress for Israel and are very public about it, it's also true that in reality they would be just a drop in the bucket if the US gentile establishment and the likes of Gates, Buffet and other non Jewish wealth holders decided to take off on Israel. Non jewish wealth, unlike jewish wealth , is now typically non tribal, non ideological and strictly 'bizness', but if they saw a threat to that from the Jewish State and it agents of influence that indifference could change overnight.

      Phil has written a great deal about jewish wealth and politics but we've never really disected it. I may be wrong, I am talking mainly from an overview of what's public on the subject, but it appears to me that jewish weath is based primilary on the' use of money', not the actual 'creation of the original money'. Original money is created by those who control innovation and lead in industry and production. Without a strong base in the actual "creation" of what produces the original dollar of profit that is then used to make more profit , they could be 'cut out' much as they were back in the days when Jews were shunned and discriminated against in the business world and socially even here in the US. That is one form of blowback I could see happening if it ever got down to a sort of domestic cold war of Americans against the Jewish State and their suporters.
      That's the kind of 'boycott', the curtailing of Israel's only real power by neturing the Jewish wealth necessary to influencing the US government in Israel's behalf, .... that would send the ultimate shivers down the Israeli spine.

    • American July 29, 2010 at 12:09 pm

      This reminds me also.....does anyone have a source for exactly how much US pension and state, city, funds are invested in Israel? I can't find a comprehensive one.

      But every day you can see a news item about this or that governor, state trade assoc, state treasurers, city financial officers and so forth hiddie hooing to Israel to set up some investment,trade or business deal to benefit Israel.

      I use to think that the fact that Israel's draining off so much American investment monies into Israel might be one of the reasons DC can't afford to let Israel crash and burn. But I pretty much ditched that theory since it's fact that the politicians don't actually care about what might happen to American's financial well being.

      Considering the US aid billions, loans waived,special grants on everything from energy to resettling Russian Jews, military gifts,
      emergency fuel supplies paid for by the pentagon, US aid to other countries like the 60 million power plant in Palestine we paid for that Israel blew up or the aid money we gave to help Lebanon clean up the environmental mess Israel made when it blew up their oil storage facilities and infrastructure, the bribe billions to Egypt for make nice with Israel. And we hardly look at the domestic spending related to holocaust industry like the million we gave Poland for their Holocaust Museum , the millions we spend in a little know agency that maintains jewish graves overseas or the Israeli earmarks in the domestic spending bills like Ackerman's allocation of 10 milion for a hospital in Israel this year during our own health care debate and crisis or like out of the $19 + million the DHS spends to 'secure" civilian American targets annually 254 institutions out of 271 named to receive the money are Jewish, including synagogues, schools, community centers and offices. Which btw, begs the question, if the Jewish state and it's supporters have nothing to do with why 'they' hate us why do we need to fortify all the Jewish community and not the non jewish community?
      * I will wait for Witty to tell me it's because all the world is anti semitic and the Jews are being scapegoated and unfairly blamed 'again'.

      But the real icing on the cake is..all those Israeli bonds....the US guarantees them. If Israel defaults we pay. The US also guarantees a large amount of Israeli government purchase 'credit' transactions, If Israel doesn't pay for whatever they bought from France or whoever...we as their co signer have to pay.

      Have to stop now ...cause I get murderous when I think about how the mostly decent people of America and decent people everywhere have been used and used and used by this insatiable parasite.

  • Indyk: Obama backed off because of campaign money
    • American July 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm

      Yep...money, money, money.

      The only way out is campaign finance reform and public financing...BUT...that will never happen cause there is more advantage to the politicians to keep the special interest status quo.

      I am reading an entertaining fictional novel right now about a, Greenpeace like, group of hackers who decide to simply "remove" and move "all" the individual and corp special interest money in the US along with bankrupting others miscreants in their favorite causes. Apropo to this subject, in one chapter, they 'disappeared' all the cash of a certain casino owner who funds illegal Israeli settlers. I am tempted to flip to the back and see how it ends, but it's too full of good ideas to skip over. LOL

    • American July 28, 2010 at 10:57 am with 3 replies

      I can remember the day when bribery of the people's representives was a dsigrace and ended careers.

      Today we accept that's how a democratic government works.

      I am not an expert on Jewish history but from the bit I have looked into my impression is that Jews connections to the various rules they lived under was always money, as collectors for the throne in instances, and for themselves, and using money to buy their favors and protection for their tribe. Frequently it backfired for whatever reason and they became persona non grada among the masses.

      Zionist aren't suited to true democracy, neither are politicans.

  • Barak: Images of Palestinian suffering replace Holocaust memories
    • American July 28, 2010 at 11:27 am with 1 replies

      Without taking away from the horrors of any holocaust, let's just say the Jewish holocaust has had a long and profitable 65 year run but people are tired of it......particularly when it's so obviously mind numbingly hypocritical.

      The zionist are always revising their and everyone else's history ....they should instead try reinventing themselves as something more acceptable to the world.

  • Notice the pattern in the Israeli stories?
  • Jeremy Ben-Ami's main argument against BDS is it doesn't affirm Israel's right to exist as Jewish homeland
    • American July 28, 2010 at 1:24 pm with 1 replies

      Well, the Jews and Israel need to look at their situtation this way.

      They were 11 million, they got cut back to 6 million, now they are back up to 11 million and should be removed from the endangered species list.

      That's the accepted critera for wildlife preservation and funding of such projects..

      Sorry, it's all so absurd I couldn't resist.

    • American July 28, 2010 at 1:13 pm

      I think it would be more accurate to call it the Zionist Jewish Lobby...if you trying to seperate it from the Jews as a whole and still be correct.
      Because most of it's members and donors are US Jewish Zonist of varying degrees.. not visiting Israelis on visas to AIPAC.

      But if they want to call it the Israel Lobby suits me...adds to the pressure to make them register under FARC as Foreign Lobby.

      I wonder if being forced to register as Foreign Lobby would have any effect on their membership roles?

    • American July 27, 2010 at 6:57 pm

      BDS 'is' about recognizing Israel as a "Jewish" (Ruled) State......amazing how they don't get that.

      But of course, if they couldn't keep the "Jewish" tag, which means victims and holocaust, on their statehood they probably wouldn't get immunity from war crimes, etc,etc., would have to give that Palestine land back and all those taxpayer billions from the US would stop flowing. They don't want to be normal state and give up all those presents and money and special treatment so they keep repeating "Jewish" state , "Jewish" state over and over.

      I've never met a single Israeli supporter, hawk nor dove, who didn't want the US to not only keep that money flowing, but increase it.

      Seriously, isn't ios this ever going to end? Here I am 3 years later back at mondo and the Israel ridiculousness is only increasing.

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