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Did the "U.S. government" really approve the Kirk amendment? My understanding was that it was just the Senate Appropriations Committee that was scheduled to debate it on Thursday, as part of the 2013 appropriation for the State Department and foreign operations. If true, that would mean it still has to go to through the full Senate, then get reconciled with the House version, then get signed by Obama.
I'm not saying it won't go all the way through, but I don't think that has happened yet.
I wonder whether the Turkish prosecutor is aware of the case of Ziad Jilani, the Palestinian murdered by the Israeli cop Maxim Vinogradov. The killing took place on June 11, 2010, just 12 days after the attack on the flotilla, and if you look closely at the killer's Facebook posts posted here on MW the other day, you'll notice that there's a clear connection between the flotilla incident and Vinogradov's murderous motivation: on May 31, the day immediately following the assault on the flotilla, his buddy Avi writes "Annihilate Turkey and all the Arabs from the world," to which Vinogradov responds "I am with you, brother, and with the help of God I will start this :)"
Given all that, I think the Turkish prosecutor should add another life sentence or at least another few thousand years to his recommended sentence for the Israeli generals.
>"Aaron David Miller called him Israel's lawyer."
Actually, Miller didn't single out Ross specifically for that title - he gave it to the U.S. peace processors generally, including himself. In 2005 he wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post entitled "Israel's Lawyer." It began "For far too long, many American officials involved in Arab-Israeli peacemaking, myself included, have acted as Israel's attorney, catering and coordinating with the Israelis at the expense of successful peace negotiations."
There's a Krav Maga Institute that happens to have its HQ in Berkeley, not far from where I live. More info here.
Unless something has escaped my memory and Mondoweiss's search engine, no one posted anything here about the BBC World Service's 2012 Country Ratings Poll, although it's been discussed in detail in recent week by the Israeli press, Electronic Intifada, Gilad Atzmon, etc. (Phil did a post on last year's version: "BBC spots sharp climb in negative view of Israel in the U.S.".)
In this year's results, based on a survey of 24,000 people in 22 countries, Israel is tied with North Korea for third place among countries that most negatively influence the word - both got 50 percent, which put them a bit behind Iran (55 percent) and Pakistan (51 percent). The U.S., Nigeria, and Kenya were the only countries where a majority of respondents said they had a positive view of Israel; overall, only 21 percent of respondents were in that category.
The results from the U.S. weren't so good, though: 50 percent of American respondents said they had a favorable view of Israel, an increase of 7 percent from last year, while the percentage saying they have a negative view of Israel decreased 6 percent to 35 percent.
The full report is here. Here's the section on Israel:
Hey, Dickerson3870, I asked once before but you didn't respond (maybe you didn't see it): what's your system for keeping track of all these articles you cite? Do you keep a full-text database? If so, what software do you use?
BTW, in case you don't know, that column you quote from was pretty clearly the key factor in my getting fired by the SF Chron, even though that didn't happen until eight months later.
You might be interested in a follow-up, entitled "The Nakba, Intel, and Kiryat Gat," that I did for the Electronic Intifada in 2008.
I understand your perspective, dalybean, and I admire your rejection of the Motorola phone. I obviously can't say for sure that the threat of a boycott played no part in the Motorola split and in Google's acquisition of the phone group, and I don't want to be argumentative. I'll just say my own sense is that the analysis you suggest enormously exaggerates our power. Motorola started planning the break-up in 2008. The conventional analysis at the time, as I recall, was that it was a move to "unlock shareholder value," as they say - i.e., they expected that the combined (stock) market value of the two companies after separation would be more than that of the old single company. The underlying problem, I believe, is that the stock price was getting dragged down by the phone business, which is both very visible and very volatile, whereas the other group of businesses - what are now Motorola Solutions - was quite profitable but not so visible to investors.
As for Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility, Google supposedly wanted their patent portfolio as a bargaining chip to use against the several companies who are attacking them over alleged patent violations in Android. Some people say they also want the ability to design, manufacture, and market their own hardware (tablets as well as phones) in order to boost Android.
On the whole, those conventional business explanations seem more plausible to me than the idea that they were trying to avoid a consumer boycott, but who knows?
> best alternate search engine?
DuckDuckGo - no tracking, good results, clean interface, and not part of any giant corporation.
A blogger at Time.com last fall compared DDG to In-N-Out Burger:
>Do you think it is more accurate to say that Google bought the
>portion of Motorola that was a target of a consumer boycott efforts?
Before Motorola split into two companies, there were some efforts - see for example hanguponmotorola.org - to organize a consumer boycott of their phones, though as far as I know that never got very far. Since the split, the BDS campaigns I'm aware of, such as JVP's campaign around TIAA-CREF and the organizing efforts within the Presbyterian and Methodist churches, have focused specifically on encouraging divestment from Motorola Solutions, because that's the half of the former company that has continued the activities that were the grounds for the campaign in the first place - that is, the sale of communications and surveillance gear to the settlements and the Israeli military. The fact sheet about Motorola at JVP's "We Divest" site, for example, now carries the following introduction:
If you know of any organizations that are continuing to encourage a boycott of Motorola-labeled phones and/or divestment from Motorola Mobility Inc., please share, and I'll stand corrected. If there are such campaigns, I'm curious about the case they make, because I haven't seen any evidence that Motorola Mobility has any involvement with the occupation, beyond selling phones in Israel, just as Apple, RIM, HTC, Samsung, and all the other phone manufacturers do.
Believe me, I'm not saying any of this to defend Motorola Mobility or Google - they're all pigs to me. But for BDS purposes we have to be strategic about which pigs we target, and for now that seems to mean Motorola Solutions, not Motorola Mobility (now known in some circles as Googorola).
Maybe someday we'll get to the point of calling for boycott and divestment of all companies that sell their products in Israel, in which case Googorola will be an appropriate target. It's a little hard to imagine such a campaign, though, since not only all phones, but also virtually everything else Americans buy is also sold in Israel.
Motorola split into two companies in January 2011. The one Google bought was Motorola Mobility, which makes cell phones and is not on any BDS list I know of. The company that provides surveillance and communication systems for the settlements and the Israeli military, and that is the target of various divestment campaigns, is called Motorola Solutions and remains an independent company.
Not to defend Google. but we need to be accurate.
"lefty PEP moneybags Irving Moskowitz"???? What evidence is there that Moskowitz is in any sense a progressive on any issue?
I'm not ready to agree with Stevieb that "Ron Paul is in the same Zionst party that Obama is in" (nor am I a Paul fan), but the following item from Business Insider is pertinent:
@Daniel Rich,
My assertion that "there are some real differences within U.S. ruling circles about policy toward Israel" does not imply that there's a "definable group of individuals standing up for what’s right" - or for that matter an undefinable group of such individuals, although I suppose there are few individuals here and there within the ruling elite who happen to have decent positions on I/P. What this Pincus article suggests is simply that there are differences about how far the U.S. should go in funding the Israeli military at a time when even the U.S. military's budget faces some modest squeezing (not to mention social services, etc.).
A few other recent examples of disagreements related to Israel: the apparently adamant resistance of the FBI, etc., to the release of Jonathan Pollard; the indictment of Weissman and Rosen from AIPAC; Obama's attempt (however brief and half-hearted) to push Netanyahu into freezing settlement construction; and currently the refusal of the intelligence agencies, Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs, etc., to endorse Israel's claims about Iranian nuclear-weapons development.
None of this has much to do with "standing up for what's right" - it just means that various segments of the American elite may have views of what's in their own interest, and that of the U.S. empire and even of Israel, that don't correspond 100-percent to those of Netanyahu and the purest Israel-firsters.
This column is particularly interesting because, as Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair
put it, "Connections between Walter Pincus and the intelligence sector are longstanding and well-known," starting from his work in the 1950s for Army Counterintelligence and including various foreign missions he has admitted the CIA paid him to do. The Washington Times once wrote that people in the CIA refer to him as the agency's "house reporter."
One conclusion I think it's fair to draw from this piece: Behind the universal groveling to Israel, there are some real differences within U.S. ruling circles about policy toward Israel.
Sharon and Arafat respond to Pitts here. Highlights:
Not directly related to this story, except that this is also about N.Y. Jews and sex: today's NY Post has a story, plus photos and online video, about a woman who is filing an EEOC complaint against the Orthodox Jewish owners of a Fifth Avenue lingerie outlet because, according to her, they canned her for being "just too hot" for their showroom.
Richard Silverstein has fabulous quote from Mofaz's Facebook wall, dated March 3, before he became leader of Kadima:
“Listen carefully: I will not join Bibi’s government. Not today, not tomorrow, and not after I become head of Kadima on March 28th. This is an evil, failing, and pig-headed government and Kadima, under my leadership, will succeed it in the next elections. Clear enough?"
Hey, Dickerson3870, thanks for these links and excerpts, and for all the others you've provided in previous comments. If you don't mind, could you say a bit about how you organize all this stuff - what do you use for a database? Do you keep full texts, or just the link and excerpts? Do you do full-text searches or have a key-word system?
Just curious, and admiring.
I can't resist trotting out one of my favorite wisecracks: "Anti-semites used to be people who hate Jews; now they're people Jews hate."
Very interesting that the Times removed the paragraph that included Diskin's comments about Israel becoming "more and more racist." A little sensitive, are we, NYT?
His remarks on this are still available at Haaretz:
A separate story at Haaretz focuses on Diskin's comments about Israel's policy toward Palestinians, which are interesting mainly because public figures aren't supposed to say such things, even though what he says is completely obvious to anyone with open eyes:
Although Diskin's comments about the policies of Netanyahu and Barak toward Iran seem to be attracting the most attention, Haaretz reporter Barak Ravid offers this interesting perspective:
IHT does stand for the International Herald Tribune, Annie, but the Times owns it and puts its stuff on their web site. (Often, as in this case, they use the IHT for stuff they don't dare print in the U.S. paper.
BTW, Stephen Robert lived up the street from me when I was a kid, except at that time he was Stevie Kniznick. One time he and another kid who lived next door peed on my sister....
What are the cat and parrot saying?
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I'm surprised no one has commented on another aspect of this clip: the Israeli soldiers throwing the riders' bikes into the ditch or canal or whatever alongside the road. I counted seven such cases in the minute beginning at 3:12 in this clip (you have to look closely, in some cases at the distant background), and that's not counting the incident beginning at 4:16 or so, when a soldier runs to grab the bike of a rider who's just standing there - that one too probably went over the side, but that's not shown in the video. (The original video of Eisner bashing the Danish kid also shows at least two bikes going over the side - at about 1:25 and 1:33. I think those are separate cases from what's shown in the later video, but I can't be sure.)
This is just a minor aspect of the whole incident - the soldiers doing it seem perfectly relaxed, and there's no indication on the video of any particular reaction from the bikers - but to me it's a revealing: even among the Ottoman, British Mandate, and Jordanian laws the Israelis keep around in case they feel like using some form of repression missing from their own legal code, I doubt there's one that authorizes the army simply to destroy these bikes, even if there is one that allows keeping them off the highway. But the bikes belong to Palestinians and their friends, and that's justification enough for trashing them.
ahadhaadam is certainly right, though, that things like this happen to Palestinians all the time, and the real issue is the apartheid system that makes them possible and necessary. It's good that a lot of people who may not know much about the situation are shocked by these videos, but we need to do our best to educate them about the context - specifically, in this case, the active ethnic cleansing of the Jordan Valley.
One more quote, this one from Haaretz's latest report:
For more from Barghouti, particularly about the nonviolent grassroots resistance, including the recent Land Day/Global March to Jerusalem demonstrations, see Elsa Rassbach's interview with him here.
rsy = responsibility? (third from last and last lines)
972mag.com's coverage of this incident includes a few more interesting details. One is an as-yet unconfirmed report that the perp, Lt. Col. Shalom [sic] Eisner, is - or at least was - in line for promotion to Deputy Commander of Bahad 1, the IDF’s officer-training school. Reporter Ami Kaufman writes that "Leading Bahad 1 is considered to be one of the most prestigious jobs in the IDF" and several of its former commanders went on to become high-ranking generals or Chiefs of Staff.
Kaufman also reports that Eisner is the son of the late Rabbi Benny Eisner, "an icon of religious Zionism who also lived in the 'Jewish House' in Abu Tor, East Jerusalem."
Meanwhile, the latest piece in Haaretz reports that the Danish ambassador to Israel has asked Israeli authorities for "clarifications" on the incident because Andreas Ias, the young man whose face Eisner smashed, is a Danish citizen.
Oh, and Israeli President Shimon Peres says he's "shocked" by the incident
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I just did so, but I don't see it - not sure where such things go in Facebook's new timeline.
Gotta hand it to Rick Steves - with one interview he's tossed his NPR show, his TV franchise, and a $20-million-a-year business down the tubes! I'll wager he's off NPR in a month and out of business in a year.
And I thought I paid a price because one lousy column cost me my job at the SF Chronicle...
At least he'll have lot of time to travel...
If I'm following your logic correctly, Nevada Ned, you're arguing that many forces in the U.S., not just the Israel lobby, would like to overthrow the current regime in Iran and restore it to Shah-like subservience. I agree completely, but that doesn't contradict my previous comment. What I said was "conjured up in Tel Aviv and introduced into American political discourse by Israel’s stooges in the media, Congress, etc." was not dislike for the Iranian regime or even the desire to overthrow it, but the idea of bombing the place over its alleged effort to achieve the capability of building nuclear weapons. Most everyone in the U.S. has been anti-Iran since 1979, but even during and after the hostage crisis, I don't remember anyone arguing that bombing was a good solution. Nobody proposed bombing India or Pakistan when they got the bomb. But now the Israelis and their agents are pushing this criminal lunacy, so most of the Congress and the punditocracy are all for it, and the rest of the media is at a minimum normalizing the idea.
To me there's some room for debate about how big a role the lobby played in starting Bush II's war on Iraq - for sure the mostly Jewish neocons were early and ardent promoters of the idea, but at least after 9/11 they weren't alone, and it appears that Bush et al. had several strategic, political, and maybe oedipal motives, not _just_ appeasing the lobby, for deciding to go ahead with it. The Israelis themselves undoubtedly liked the idea, but I haven't seen much evidence that Sharon et al. were a major force in pushing it (remember that in 2002-2003 they were rather busy with other things - smashing the intifada).
Iran, however, is an altogether different case, because who on earth wants a war with Iran except the Israelis and the lobby (and, I suppose, the MEK)? The whole idea was conjured up in Tel Aviv and introduced into American political discourse by Israel's stooges in the media, Congress, etc. Though I've had some differences with Finkelstein even before his attack on the BDS movement, I've never before had occasion to question his intellect or his integrity. But if he really sees no evidence for the lobby's role in U.S. Iran policy, I have to say I think he's lost his grip on reality!
Great pix - thanks.
The Denver Post site, amazingly, has an even larger gallery of Land Day pix - 71 AP photos.
Very nice, Allison. Are these from a larger collection, and is it available online somewhere, or did you dig them up one by one?
The reason the Haifa reader couldn't get to the official GM2J site is that the site came under an intense distributed denial-of-service attack from inside Israel, and the only way the site administrators could keep it up and accessible from the rest of the world was to block requests from all Israeli Internet addresses. Here's a statement the team put out early this morning:
Official vote is in: YES: 653 NO: 1005.
In other words, no referendum - a defeat for the BDS forces. 653 votes is a lot, though, and now the other side is in the position of having to justify their refusal to let the members decide.
Someone from a local-news site associated with the NY Times is live-tweeting from the coop meeting at https://twitter.com/#!/bklocal
Heh, funny to see my name pop up here. I'm going to write to Sunni tonight to welcome him to the fraternity (is there a non-gendered alternative word?) of journalists canned for speaking some truth about Israel.
One question I have about Khalid's case: did some Zionist vigilante complain to station management about his Facebook comment, or was management tracking such things on their own? Probably the former, but nowadays you never know. The lobby is extremely aggressive in policing the media and media people (as they are in politics, the universities, and everywhere else!), but very often they don't need to intervene because the media organizations do the dirty work for them, preemptively, for fear of bad press and losing subscribers, advertisers, or donors.
In my case my immediate editors thought my Intel column was great - they even made a little extra space for it, and got the art department to add a color map. I even warned them that it would be controversial, and turned it in early so we'd have time to argue about it if they were going to ask me to water it down, but they had no problem with it - until it appeared in the paper and the poop hit the fan. I didn't know it at the time, but I found later that the local lobby and even the Israeli consul in San Francisco were on the phone demanding a meeting the publisher within hours after the paper hit the streets, and they met in his office two days later.
Aside from the injury to immediate targeets, the really bad thing about these cases is that they have a very chilling effect on other journalists: they're a pretty stark reminder that crossing the lobby even once can cost you your job - and quite possibly prevent you from ever getting another in the media. Especially in the current media environment, few journalists can afford to take that risk, so nearly all of them toe the line or just avoid the whole I/P issue.
Good that Isikoff picked this up, but I'm not sure what if anything he has "broken." As other commenters have pointed out, this story has been all over the place in recent days. If we're giving credit to journalists, I'd say Greenwald deserves a lot more, because he's kept this story alive for months, when no one else was covering it. But the real credit for "breaking" it should go to Scott Peterson of the Christian Science Monitor - as far as I can tell, everyone else is just building on the very detailed report on this he published last August.
One important thing Greenwald has done that I don't remember seeing in any of the other coverage is to highlight the fact that the U.S. has charged a number of people with providing "material support to terrorists" for things like postings to YouTube or links on a website - actions for which they received no money and that obviously did a lot less (if anything) to benefit the organizations in question than what Rendell, Freeh, et al. have done for the MEK. But they got prosecuted because they're not big shots - and in most cases because they're Muslims.
Jimmy Carter "pointing the racism and cruelty that permeates the Israeli government and attitudes in Israel"?? No way. He's a hero, in a sense, for going as far as he has with respect to conditions in the occupied Palestinian territories. But he repeatedly declares that Israel is a wonderful democracy, except for the occupation, and he makes no mention of the racism. (My guess is that that was tactical choice on his part, in the vain hope that it would help him ward off charges that he's anti-Israel, anti-semitic, etc. It's hard to believe that anyone not totally under the thumb of the Zionists, as he clearly isn't, could miss the racism. Especially someone from Georgia.)
Haggai Matar has posted a report on this demonstration at +972. It includes a much longer YouTube clip. I'm pretty sure the incident depicted in the Activestills sequence occurs between 2:20 and 2:30 in that clip - you don't see the woman in the purple top, just a glimpse of her banner, then the Intermix truck, then a score of media people swarming around something, presumably the victim.
One thing that strikes me from that video: the way the Israelis use gas and flash-bang grenades against people just marching down the street looks just like the tactics the Oakland police now routinely use against our Occupy marches. I wonder how long it will be until we get the Skunk and the Scream machine...
Sorry, guys, but to me this piece reads like some kind of liberal-imperialist-NGO fantasy: Israeli do-gooders, with a Palestinian sidekick tagging along, bring light to the benighted villagers, and "Young and old were all grateful."
Author Weinstein (who apparently is or until recently was a project manager at Cisco, I discovered by googling his name) mentions that the Israeli authorities had destroyed a widow's house the day he visited Umm al-Kheer, and that they had repeatedly destroyed Ibrahim's family's sheds until the Israeli Supreme Court made them stop. But he doesn't convey the sustained and systematic quality of the ongoing Israel campaign to force the tiny village's Beduin residents out, evidently to make way for further expansion of the adjacent settlement of Karmel. I'm not sure when it began, but the heroic Ezra Nawi was arrested in Umm al-Kheer in 2007 when he tried, in vain, to protect a home from demolition. In October 2008 the Israeli army demolished ten house-tents there, leaving 60 people homeless, according to Operation Dove, the Italian humanitarian organization that's been active in the area since 2004. In July 2009 the army came back to destroy some toilets. In September 2011 they leveled three houses and one toilet.
At the beginning of this year 12 structures were under demolition orders, and on Jan. 8 eight more were added to the list. Then on Jan. 25 (perhaps the day Weinstein was there?) the Israelis bulldozed not one but two houses - neither of which had a demolition order! (Video here.)
Aside from downplaying the demolition campaign, Weinstein quotes Comet-ME co-founder Noam Dotan to the effect that "Jewish settlers almost never threatened them or destroyed the installations." Apparently "them" refers to the Comet-ME crews, because numerous other observers - including Operation Dove, the Villages Group, and UNRWA - have all documented routine settler harassment of Umm al-Kheer's residents.
The author does note that "six local communities received demolition orders from the Israeli Civil Administration specifically for the wind turbines, solar panels and electricity rooms they had built" - a development previously mentioned on Mondoweiss here (by Phil) and here - but somehow Weinstein doesn't let that news mar his happy tale.
All in all, I don't think this post effectively communicates what's really going on in the South Hebron hills.
Back in December, Living on Earth, Public Radio International's environment show, also did a puff piece about the good Israelis of Comet-ME trying to make life better for the West Bank village of Tha'le. But last week, in the wake of Israel ordering the demolition of the solar panels there, LOE returned to the story, and to my ear the update had a tone distinctly critical of Israel, particularly by public-radio standards. In fact, it's considerably more hard-hitting than Weinstein's post - except that at the end the host quotes a spokesman for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs making the laughable assertion that "had the West Bank villagers applied for the permits [for the solar panels], they probably would have gotten them."
Phil notes that the Book of Esther ends with mass murder of Persians. OlegR calls this "a perversion of the story itself." Who's right? Check the text. From Ch. 9 of the Book of Esther (King James version):
If, as Oleg says, "this part of the story throughout history has been widely used by antisemites to accuse Jews of being revengeful people with genocidal tendencies," it's not hard to see why...
Adam wrote "If Atzmon is talking about Israeli Jews then say it, if he is talking about Zionism then say it, but he refers to all Jews and Judaism."
I have my share of problems with Atzmon, but in the interests of accuracy and fairness, I have to say that that statement is just true. Have you read his book, Adam, or sat through any of his talks? On page 16 of his book, as well as in many if not all of his public appearances, he has explained clearly that he divides those of us who consider ourselves Jews into three conceptual categories:
1) those who adhere to Judaism as a religion;
2) those who regard themselves as "human beings who happen to be of Jewish origin;"
3) "those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits."
(Personally, I don't think these are really parallel categories, because members of #1 could be in #2 or #3, but that's a side issue in this context.)
Over and over in his talks and interviews he explains that he doesn't have any problems with groups 1 and 2 and that his critique is directed at what he calls "category 3 Jews" - it's that group he accuses of tribalism, racism, arrogance, greed, brutality, etc.
Granted, he sometimes drops the qualifier and refers to the people about whom he's making these very negative generalizations simply as "the Jews." Obviously, that's a major problem, because a lot of people hear - and repeat - those remarks without paying attention to the conceptual framework he's laid out earlier or elsewhere. But if you actually care to understand his framework, it's clear that he's not talking about all Jews and Judaism.
Though he doesn't claim to be doing empirical sociology, I'm pretty sure that if asked he would put the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews in his category 3, but in my opinion and experience over there, he's got good grounds for doing so - see Danaa's powerful comments in this thread. As for American and European Jews, I suspect he'd put a majority in category 3 - and contend that many of us who would put ourselves in category 2 are infected to one degree or another by category 3 thinking. Again, while I'm sure I disagree with him in some cases about where that's happening and how to respond, I think he's definitely on to an important reality. I know that a lot of my own upbringing, even though it was more assimilationist than Zionist, included a lot of the attitudes he associates with category 3.
In fact, I think part of the appeal of this site to those of us of Jewish origins is that it helps us wrestle with that dialectic in our own consciousness, our families, and so on. For sure I see that in a lot of Phil's posts about his family and community, past and present. (To be clear, that's just my interpretation - I'm not saying Phil sees any value in these categories or anything else in Atzmon's work. Care to comment, Phil?)
Not to be pedantic or anything , but now that you've changed Edgar to Etgar, how about "trys" to "tries"?
I agree with EdithLake that the title of this piece should be changed, but not to "released," because the Israelis haven't "released" him any more than they have "freed" him. All they've done is to state that they don't intend to extend his administrative detention when his current term expires on April 17 - unless they come up with new evidence against him.
In other words, even in the best of cases, he faces almost two more months in prison, probably with even more than the usual abuse because of his courage and notoriety - even though he very likely did nothing whatsoever even by Israeli standards. (If they actually had anything on him but found themselves unable to extend the administrative detention, surely they would put him on trial, not promise even conditionally to let him loose in April.)
Hey, Phil, I'm all for active listening, but in future how about waiting until your interviewee completes his/her answer before you agree? All those "Yes"-es are pretty distracting!
I just want to thank Adam, lareineblanche, the other commenters, and above all David Samel - this is a superb discussion. And, yes, Norman Finkelstein, too, for sparking it, even though I find much of his argument infuriating.
Special appreciation to David for noting Finkelstein's condescension toward Frank Barat. Not as weighty as the other issues, of course, but that kind of arrogance needs to be called out.
The "auspicious" tweety to cites links to a piece by Ethan Bronner. That piece is surprisingly positive about the Bil'in movie, but given who wrote it, I'm not sure how auspicious the tweet really is.
Interesting tidbits from Wikipedia article on Chris Hayes: "Hayes is married to Kate A. Shaw, Associate Counsel for President Barack Obama ... Hayes's brother Luke is a Democratic political operative."
Historical side note, FWIW (not much): Back in the 60's many of us in the New Left were convinced that Allard Lowenstein, the main operator behind the Dump Johnson Movement, was a CIA agent, or at least a collaborator with the agency. Grove Press even published a book making that argument in the 1980s. In hindsight, I think the story was very likely BS, but it arose because he was so into his ties with high levels of the establishment, even as he tried to enlist the movement in his projects, and because he was very hostile to anyone he judged a commie or commie dupe.
The question was taken seriously enough that the New York Review of Books, after publishing a very critical review of the book, ran a long exchange about it.
Sorry to be shilling for the NY Times today, but I just discovered a 10-minute version of "The Law in These Parts" posted as an "op-doc" on their site, under the title "The Justice of Occupation." I trust the full film is more persuasive - I regret to say I don't think this abbreviated version will convince anyone of anything.
The NY Times ran a long and surprisingly favorable review of "5 Broken Cameras" the other day, written by - wait for it... - Ethan Bronner! It includes a brief discussion of some controversy around the film among Palestinians: apparently some have criticized Burnat of "normalization" for working with an Israeli co-director and Greenhouse, an Israeli NGO, to make the film.
I also came across a review, in both prose and video, by a young woman named Mali Elfman, at a site called ScreenCrave.com. It's an odd appreciation - never once mentions Israel, uses the word Palestinian only once, to identify Burnat, and seems to present the struggle simply as a rural village trying to preserve itself in the face of encroaching suburban development - yet Ms. Elfman was obviously deeply moved by the film, and I found her video in particular quite affecting.
Karina mentions the project's website, including the book list, the teaser to the movie, and the discussion forum, but for some reason she didn't include a link. It's easy enough to guess or google, but just to save everyone that enormous trouble, it's thegreatbookrobbery.org. Well worth checking out, IMO.
This just in: Miriam Adelson, Sheldon's wife, is giving Gingrich's Super PAC another $5 million (not to be confused with Sheldon's $5-million donation a few weeks back).
Thanks for that link, PTJ, but for the record the author is Thomas Harrington, not Michael.
W/r/t the settler population, here's a comment I just posted at Richard Silverstein's site:
I think the 722,000 figure should be taken with several grains of salt. In 2010 the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics put the settler population in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, at 517,774. That doesn’t include about 20,000 in the Golan Heights, but even if you add them in, and figure 5% growth per year in 2010 and 2011, we’re still pretty far from the Israel HaYom figure.
I don’t read Hebrew, so I don’t know whether Israel HaYom gives any more detail, but a Jan. 15 AFP report does. First of all, it says the numbers come from Yaakov Katz, a Knesset member fro the far-right National Union party, who says he got them from the interior Ministry. For the West Bank settler population, not counting East Jerusalem, he gives a figure of 342,414, which is not out of line with conventional estimates. There are two reasons the total is so much higher than most figures: a) it includes 60,000 Jewish Israelis allegedly studying at institutions in West Bank settlements, and b) it puts the Jewish population of East Jerusalem at 300,000, compared to the usual estimate of 200,000. Even factoring in substantial increasesin the last two years, that’s a huge discrepancy.
I have no way of evaluating the figure for students, but as to East Jerusalem, I can’t help but suspect that Katz and his sources are inflating the number in order to strengthen their claim to that area.
DebkaFile's version of this story is very interesting, starting with the headline: "US, Israel in open rift over Iran: Big joint military drill cancelled."
Some excerpts:
Richard Witty and anyone else who questions whether Adelson is fixated on Israel should check out Connie Bruck's 2008 New Yorker profile of him, or at least Richard Silverstein's excerpts from and comments on Bruck's piece.
Shurat HaDin is also the group that filed the bogus complaint to the Greek Coast Guard that served as the original pretext for preventing The Audacity of Hope from sailing to Gaza as part of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla last June.
Allison wrote: "The Palestinians from East Jerusalem neighborhoods such as Silwan, whose status will be revoked, are already geographically annexed to a "greater Jerusalem" by the security wall. The route of the wall cuts Silwan from other Palestinian neighborhoods in East Jerusalem that are east of the wall ..."
I think it's wrong to suggest that the Palestinians of Silwan would lose their Jerusalem IDs under Barkat's recent proposal. That proposal involves changing the boundaries of "Greater Jerusalem" so the parts of it that are east of the apartheid wall would cease to be part of the city and would instead fall under the authority (such as it is) of the Palestinian Authority. That's why the 70,000 or Palestinians who live in those areas would lose their Jerusalem IDs.
As the second part of the quoted passage implies, however, Silwan is west of the wall, and it's certainly not an area the Israelis want to turn over to the PA - on the contrary, they're doing their damnedest to keep it, just without Palestinian residents.
The Jerusalem Post's report on Barkat's proposal says the major neighborhoods it would affect are Kafr Aqab, the Shuafat refugee camp, Semiramis, Zughayer and Atarot.
Professor Slater: Is your article about Mearsheimer and Walt available online anywhere for less than the $36 Security Studies' publisher wants for it?
BTW, five Occupy protesters were arrested today outside the Des Moines headquarters of Ron Paul's Iowa campaign. You have to read down to the 12th paragraph of this AP story to discover that "The protest at the Paul headquarters was aimed at his proposal to dismantle the Environmental Protection Agency if elected."
This is off-topic with respect to Israel/Palestine, but since people are also talking about Ron Paul's positions on some other issues, I think it's worth noting one that hasn't been mentioned here: global warming. On his page on the subject, he professes agnosticism about the science, calls for end to subsidies for oil companies, says "we should never, ever go to war to protect our perceived oil interests," and winds up with this:
"After additional consideration and analysis and shortly before the release of the Climategate emails in late 2009, Ron Paul identified the artificial panic around Global Warming as an elaborate hoax:
“The greatest hoax I think that has been around for many, many years if not hundreds of years has been this hoax on [...] global warming.” – Ron Paul on Fox Business, Nov. 4, 2009
I'm surprised folks participating in this discussion, aside from Richard Witty, don't seem to be paying much attention to the electronic interview with Ron Paul in today's Haaretz. It's an odd one - he reiterates a lot of his commendable non-interventionist principles, opposition to foreign aid, etc., but also appears to be trying to reassure and even appeal to the Israelis (and of course their backers here at home). Some key passages:
* "I do not believe we should be Israel’s master but, rather, her friend. We should not be dictating her policies and announcing her negotiating positions before talks with her neighbors have even begun. ... I believe we have gone too far, to Israel’s detriment. Instead of being her friend, we have dominated her foreign policy." (The U.S. dictates Israel's policies?? That's just the opposite of what's happening!)
* "I am the one candidate who would respect Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate to her about how she should deal with her neighbors. I supported Israel’s right to attack the Iraqi nuclear reactor in the 1980s, and I opposed President Obama’s attempt to dictate Israel’s borders this year."
* in response to a question about Iran: "I believe I’m the only candidate who would allow Israel to take immediate action to defend herself without having to get our approval. Israel should be free to take whatever steps she deems necessary to protect her national security and sovereignty." (Not surprisingly, Haaretz's headline writers call this statement "a 'green light' to an Israeli attack on Iran.")
Another data point: in 2006 Congressman John Dingell wrote in the Arab American News, a paper based in Dearborn, MI, "I have been in Congress for 50 years, and during my tenure I have proudly helped to move more than $300 billion worth of American aid to Israel." His column is no longer available at the Arab American News sit, but Jeff Blankfort posted the full text here.
Dingell doesn't spell out how he arrived at the $300 billion figure, but obviously he was including various kinds of indirect assistance the US provides to Israel that WRMEA and the Congressional Research Service don't include in their tabulations.
An updated version of the table Alison links to in the last sentence of this post, published in the November, 2011 issue of Washington Report on Middle East Affairs and available here, shows a total of $123.2 billion in aid since 1949.
Of course that doesn't include the several kinds of indirect aid Thomas Stauffer cited.
BTW, rumor has it that WRMEA is in dire financial straits. Anyone who can spare $29 (or more) and wants to see this kind of research and reporting continued should subscribe.
Thanks for pointing out the Salon article - it's a good summary of a trend that's already been documented on this site. But note that when Jordan Michael Smith talks about "the media consensus" collapsing, he's confusing the elite punditocracy with the media at large. How many people in this country even know names like Thomas Friedman, Roger Cohen, Stephen Walt, Andrew Sullivan, et al. - much less pay attention to their views on Israel? We can hope that the real changes taking place within this narrow stratum will eventually influence the rest of the media - the news pages (as opposed to the op-ed page) of the papers, NPR, network TV, etc. - but I haven't seen much evidence of that happening yet. And you can bet the lobby will fight every inch of the way to prevent it.
And then there's the larger question of when and how changes in any of the media will affect the political elite. After all, even though the Zionists obviously place a high value on control over the media, it's only one component of their power in Washington, and not the most important, I'd say - even if Israel's standing in the polls declines and there's more criticism in the media, they'll still have the resources to buy the Congress and Presidential candidates.
> I ... climbed up the slanted stairways toward the shelves...
Aren't all stairways slanted, by definition?
(focusing on the big issue here)
The Robert Siegel interview from last May is hardly the only example of NPR ducking the question of Jewish money. In fact, NPR appears to have systematic policy of doing so (surely, it can't be that they're all just stupid, right?). One example from just last week: in an All Things Considered segment entitled "GOP Candidates Affirm Their Support Of Israel," about the Republican Jewish Coalition Forum, there's no reference whatsoever to money, donations, contributions, whatever. When host Lynn Neary asked reporter Ari Shapiro "Well, why is it so important for Republicans to address this group?," Shapiro acknowledged that Jews are a small number of voters and overwhelmingly vote Democratic, but then rattled on about the evangelical vote, the possibility that Jewish voters could make a difference in a few swing states, etc. - everything except money.
Quite a few of the commenters, however, pointed out what was missing.
What's described as the "full text" of Spafford's Our Jerusalem - is available online here. It's apparently of the published version, minus the censored chapter, but there are a few references to Deir Yaseen in chapter 31.
>I realized this is what Palestinian first, second, third,
>fourth graders experience daily in Gaza.
At least metaphorically, it's what *all* Palestinians experience daily.
Nice report. Stay safe, Radhika.
If you can get through to Mayor Quan's phone, more power to you - no one I know has been able to since the raid.
But everyone should go to her Facebook page and leave a comment on her statement yesterday defending and thanking the cops, etc. As of now there are 11,754 comments, and though I certainly haven't read them all, I have yet to see one supporting her, and most of them are exquisitely scathing.
There'd be outrage over this incident no matter who was mayor, but there's a special edge to it because of who Jean Quan is. For those who aren't from the Bay Area: she was a prominent activist in the Third World Liberation Front at UC Berkeley in the late 60s. She went on to be a member of some small left collective, and then a union organizer, then a progressive member of the Oakland school board. Her M.D. husband is a big single-payer activist, her Deputy Mayor for Community Relations was previously head of the Alameda County Labor Council, and her buddy and top adviser is Dan Siegel, longtime activist and lawyer in many cases attempting to rein in the Oakland cops. She got elected mayor because Oakland's ranked-choice voting system in effect pooled the votes of several progressive candidates, enabling her to squeak past the establishment Dem candidate.
In other words, we expected better!
Iraq Veterans Against the War, the group Scott Olsen is active in, has set up a support fund for him. If you're so inclined, you can make a secure donation at this page or mail a check or money order to:
P.O. Box 3565
New York, NY 10008-3565
Attn: Scott Olsen Support Fund
BTW, here's a response to Max's article from Dalit Baum of WhoProfits.org and Global Exchange's Economic Activism for Palestine project, who knows a lot about such things: "Defense Technologies supply the Israeli police with some of these weapons, but not the army mostly. The weapons used in Biliin and Niilin were almost all CSI-made."
FWIW I got hit in the leg last night by chunk of a projectile - I think it was the firing mechanism of a flash-bang grenade - with a label saying Defense Technology Corp., Casper, WY. I gave it to the National Lawyers Guild.
Headed back to Oakland for tonight's "reconvergence." Wish me luck...
Scott Olsen has a fractured skull and swelling fo the brain, according to his roommate - more info and pix here.
Oakland's Tristan Anderson (who's also from Oakland).
One thing I can say from personal experience: the gas the OPD used last night wasn't half as bad as what the IDF uses.
MRW's link to Brzezinski on Morning Joe doesn't work now, probably because they moved the clip. I think this is now the correct location for the interview, which is indeed interesting.
Yesterday's "Today in Palestine" reported on a demonstration by schoolgirls in Hebron/al-Khalil. Just want to note that there's a lovely set of photos of this demo here.
Last Friday, in solidarity with the hunger strikers in the Israeli prisons and in our own California prisons, a few of us did a brief blockade of the building that houses the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. I also fasted for the day - my first fast since I stopped celebrating Yom Kippur 50+ years ago!
A short video from the blockade:
From Palestine to Pelican Bay from Intl Jewish Anti-Zionist Network on Vimeo.
And Salon.com files that article in their "entertainment" section!!!
Today (Tuesday) Richard Silverstein has a new and horrifying report, from Hebrew-language sources, about another dimension of this incident:
ANATOT POGROM VICTIMS SUFFERED SEXUAL ABUSE
Tony Karon chimes in on this topic with a post entitled "Is Israel Again Weighing an Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities?" at Time.com. Some highlights:
"Panetta's comments, coming barely a month after the U.S. reportedly agreed to deliver 55 bunker-busting GBU-28 bombs to Israel, were widely viewed as an "down, boy" message to any adventurist bomb-Iran impulses on the part of Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak."
"the latest round of chatter could be nothing more than the by-now quotidian Israeli saber rattling designed to make Iran believe that it faces imminent military action."
"the U.S. military['s] leaders have long made clear their belief that an Israeli military strike on Iran would have disastrous consequences both for Israel and for U.S. forces throughout the Middle East. "
"as Iranian scholar Trita Parsi, who has studied the Iran-U.S.-Israel relationship over decaes, wrote last weekend, the dangerous escalation of rhetoric amid the absence of communication channels between the U.S. and an increasingly isolated, embattled and skittish Iran raise the danger of an unintended lurch into tragedy. He warns of declining American influence creating a vacuum that a number of competing forces are jockeying to fill, and that the decision-making of key players is increasingly shaped by domestic politics rather than strategic calculation."
Haaretz has an interesting follow-up on Panetta's visit to Israel here. The headline and lede are about former Mossad chief Meir Dagan arguing that Iran is far from being capable of building nuclear weapons and insisting that a military strike is "far from being Israel's preferred option." But the bulk of the story is about Panetta supposedly passing on "a clear message from his boss in Washington: The United States opposes any Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities."
One more letter in today's NY Times also deserves attention, IMO:
>Have they really thought this through?
No, clearly not, at least not in any realistic way. The option most popular among Israelis, I think, is none of the ones you list, but what they call "transfer" - somehow getting the remaining Palestinians to leave the West Bank (and maybe Gaza, too). Call that option #5. Problem is, it's not going to happen with your #3.
Mairav Zonszein's story at 972mag.com includes some useful background on this incident, including this first-hand report from one of the Ta'ayush activists who were attacked:
Israelis speaking/writing in English often call incidents like this "a lynch," a term that has an odd ring to my American ears. I'd say the normal noun is "a lynching," but unless someone gets strung up, I think the term *pogrom* is both more accurate and more resonant.
Ah yes, the rudeness. My first visit to Israel was in 1960, when I was 14. I had no particular political critique at that time, but I hated the place - precisely because so many people were so obnoxious. I had no desire to go back there ever again, and in fact I didn't until 2002, when my partner and I cancelled a long-planned vacation in Greece and went instead to volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement in Gaza....
I volunteered yesterday at the new storefront "gallery" where the Gaza kids' art is now on display. MECA is selling very nice t-shirts with the image of the little girl crying behind bars. They're available in red or black, in various sizes, at $15 each. They don't have an online store, but if you e-mail again or call - MECA@MECAforPeace.org or 510 548-0542 - and offer a little extra donation to cover shipping and their trouble, you might be able to work something out. If that doesn't work, get a friend in the East Bay to stop in at the MECA office or the storefront and buy what you want. If that's not possible, and you really, really want one (or more), e-mail me at henry@norr.com.
Interesting. This info will probably help the "Greater Israel" forces vs. those who've supported a two-state solution (or better, endless discussion thereof) as a way of avoiding the "demographic timebomb" (=a Palestinian majority).
That's Kate Raphael, a friend and a longtime activist in QUIT (Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism), Women In Black, the International Women's Peace Service, the International Solidarity Movement, Direct Action to Stop the War, Act Against Torture, and lots more grassroots groups. Check out her blog at link to
and Murder Under the Bridge, her online serial mystery set in Palestine, at link to
And no, Annie, I didn't update this post - I guess you were just too bleary-eyed to notice some of the links when you read it last night or this morning. :-)
Jon S wrote: "There’s a difference between heckling , which is legitimate and acceptable, and disrupting the event to the point where the speaker is prevented from speaking and unable to exercise his freedom of speech , and the audience denied the right to hear the speaker they came to hear."
As several other commenters have previously noted, the longest statement made by any of the Irvine 11 during Oren's speech was 8 seconds long, and the total time taken by 11 statements combined was roughly 60 seconds. How short would their statements have to have been to qualify in your eyes as "heckling , which is legitimate and acceptable"?
interesting tidbit from the Wikipedia entry on Michael Lerner:
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The three great creative achievements of the Jewish people in our time, he argued, are the rebuilding of Jerusalem, the resurrection of the Hebrew language, and the development of the kibbutz. What, he asked, have we that can compare to any of these?
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How about taking control of the foreign policy and much of the media, economy, and cultural life of the world's only superpower? That strikes me as quite an achievement. But I guess Oz, Fein, et al. don't want to talk about it openly...
Robert Siegel of NPR also referred to "the deaths of nine Turks" on the Mavi Marmara in an interview that aired on Sept. 6 (a piece that, as I recall, Phil or someone linked to from this site). I sent a note to Siegel and to NPR's corrections department pointing out that the victims were actually eight Turks and one American of Turkish descent. Funny thing: they don't seem to have run a correction...
On the other hand, Erdogan also refers to Farkan Dogan as a Turk, a fact the NYT and NPR could use to argue that their references to "nine Turks" are not incorrect.
Ulta-minor correction to a very moving poem: footnote 4 should say Iraq, not Afghanistan.
There's a pretty decent story about this in Saturday's SF Chronicle. And for those of you who enjoy comment combat, there are already more than 150 comments posted, and more appearing by the minute.
Along the same lines as Chaos's suggestion, but no cost involved: if you're on Facebook, search for "mocha museum of children's art," go to their page, "Like" it (at least temporarily), and leave a comment telling them what you think of their decision. Remember, though, that if anyone from MOCHA looks at the page, it's almost certainly staff people, who are not the ones who made this horrendous decision, and not the board, who are the ones actually responsible. In other words, IMO, be firm but not rude.
Some other alternatives to SodaStream, besides the iSi products:
a) In a few places you can still get locally-made seltzer water delivered directly to your doorstep. In New York there's the Gomberg Seltzer Works in Canarsie - there's even a movie about it - and a guy named Ronny Beberman who still does home delivery (I don't know how to reach him, but he's gotten lots of press - try Google.) In California the Seltzer Sisters of Redwood City deliver throughout the Bay Area. And there are apparently similar service in Toronto, Vienna, and Argentina.
b) A company called Mr. Butler's in Kerala, India, makes a countertop carbonation machine called the Italia, which looks somewhat similar to SodaStream machines. They don't have wide distribution in the US, but if you want to try one, you can get it from Precious Products LLC of Garland, TX. Unfortunately, it seems that they get their "flavor packets" (stuff you can mix into your soda water) from SodaClub, which is the same company as SodaStream.
c) A number of other companies make "soda siphons" like iSi's. For example, siphons from a Hungarian outfit called Liss are sold at Amazon, Buy.com, and other online outlets, and available indirectly from Walmart.com (through a partner called CSNStores.com).
d) A good guy in North Carolina named Mike Harvell (a.k.a. "Mr. Fizz") has designed a product called the Fizz Giz, which somewhat resembles iSi's Twist 'n Sparkle. At the moment it's a one-man operation, and the units he's currently offering are basically hand-assembled prototypes, but it looks promising.
e) If you want to construct your own carbonation system, Mike Harvell has posted links to a bunch of sites that offer instructions - go here and click on "DIY References and Sources." (He's got a ton of other information about this whole business at the same site.)
We at the Economic Activism for Palestine project are continuing to research the options, including trying to find out about the labor and environmental practices of these companies. We hope to post a full report in a few months.
As it happens, I've been doing research on this very question, as part of the Economic Activism for Palestine project at Global Exchange in San Francisco, under the leadership of Dalit Baum of WhoProfits.org.
For most people the best alternatives to the SodaStream machines are products from a 200-year-old Austrian company called iSi. They make a line of stylish "soda siphons" - basically, metal jugs into which you insert a CO2 cartridge that carbonates the contents. They also have a newer product called Twist 'n Sparkle, which uses plastic bottles and a separate "wand" for cabonation. Besides not being manufactured on stolen land, this product has at least one important advantage over SodaStream's: it can be used to carbonate beverages other than water, such as juices and cocktails, whereas SodaStream says its warranty is voided if users add anything other than water and its flavor-packs to its systems.
Unfortunately, iSi's distribution network is not nearly as extensive as SodaStream's, but the products are sold in some chain stores, including Bed, Bath, and Beyond; at Manhattan electronics discounter J&R; and online at Amazon, jr.com, the Williams-Sonoma website and some smaller online outlets. Though they are apparently not stocked at Walmart's brick-and-mortar stores, the Twist 'n Sparkle products are also sold at Walmart.com, either for direct delivery or through a program called Site to Store, which offers free shipping to a Walmart of the shopper's choice. In other words, it shouldn't be hard for motivated consumers to find them.
Rania and Haytham: Do you know of a short Brecht play called "The Exception and the Rule"? It tells of a Chinese merchant and a coolie he exploits and beats. When they're lost in the desert, the coolie approaches his master to offer him a drink of water, but the merchant kills him, on the mistaken assumption that the coolie was coming to kill _him_. The merchant is tried for murder but acquitted, because the judge rules that he had every right to fear that the coolie was out to get him in retaliation his mistreatment, so the murder was self-defense even though there was no actual threat.
Point of all this? Americans and especially Jews, whatever their politics, can't quite believe that a Palestinian isn't anti-semitic because on some level we all know you have every right to be.
Gilad Atzmon has an interesting post today entitled "Israel Better Think Twice." It begins:
Who wants war, DBG? I want peace, but peace with justice. In the short run, the blockade of Gaza has to end, and Erdogan going there - especially if he were to go by sea - could help achieve that end
What I'd really like to see is Erdogan going to Gaza by sea - on the Mavi Marmara!
On the other side of the moral ledger, there's the case of Stuart Nozette, covered on NPR today:
One aspect of this issue that hardly ever gets mentioned, even though I think it's a powerful argument: even if the Israelis weren't the criminals they are, it's absurd that we're giving all that money to such a rich country! According to the CIA World Factbook, Israel's gross domestic product per capita, on a "purchasing power parity" basis (the standard way of comparing countries), was $29,800 in 2010. That's more than such countries as Italy, Spain, New Zealand, and (by far) Saudi Arabia, and just shy of the European Union average ($32,700). Americans would stand for their tax money being given away to countries like those
While you're at Kickstarter.com to donate for "Roadmap to Apartheid," consider also making a pledge for another very promising documentary project, "Martin Luther King Jr. in Palestine," a film that documents the experience of an African-American gospel choir touring the West Bank with the Palestinian National Theater as they together perform an Arabic-language version of Clay Carson's play about MLK Jr. The person making the film, Connie Field, has a long history of making important and high-quality documentaries, including "Freedom on My Mind" (a history of the civil rights movement in Mississippi), the feminist classic “The Life and Times of Rosie the Riveter,” and most recently "Have You Heard From Johannesburg," a monumental seven-part series on the global anti-apartheid movement, which will air on PBS in January. (In particular, don't miss "The Bottom Line," the segment on the economic sanctions campaign in the U.S. - very inspiring for anyone interested in BDS.) She just needs to raise another $6,150 to reach her $30,000 goal, but she has to do it in the next week, or else all the pledges are void.
Like "Roadmap to Apartheid," "MLK Jr. in Palestine" has the potential to reach some audiences that may not see other documentaries about Palestine, so supporting them both is a good way to help broaden the movement.
Meanwhile, in addition to buying friends in Congress, this Rabbi Pinto has been busy stiffing his father-in-law and the developer of a luxury apartment complex in Jerusalem - see the interesting report in Haaretz yesterday.
In case anyone is still following this thread, just want to let you know that the "Martin Luther King Jr. in Palestine" film just hit its $30,000 goal on KickStarter, with all of two days to spare. Thanks, Annie and everyone who contributed.
I wonder why the name of the event refers only to cultural boycott, not economic. Do they really intend to discuss only the former?
Though cultural boycott has great symbolic significance, and clearly freaks a lot of people out, I think economic pressure has more potential in the long run to force change on the Israelis
It's great to read of the popular outrage in response to this terrible crime, but note that the law as now amended by Abu Mazen [can he do things like that all by himself?] merely "empowers the judiciary to decide whether or not the defendant's claim that the killing was to defend a family's 'honor' is valid." That seems to suggest that perps would still get no more than six months if the judge decide the "honor" claim is legitimate - i.e. (presumably), if there's evidence that the victim was actually involved in a romantic relationship outside marriage.
In other words, this story represents progress, but there's still a long way to go ...
Trying to explain Jewish power in U.S. politics by debating whether it's a matter of votes or money leaves out several other major elements. Most important, in my opinion, is the role of Jews in the media - sometimes as reporters, but more often as executives, editors, columnists, TV pundits, etc.: these folks can, and regularly do, block candidates they don't like by painting them as "fringe elements" or "extremists" or some such, or (more often) just by repeating over and over that they don't have a chance, or just by ignoring them altogether. That kind of advance filtering of the candidate pool costs nothing, but it's highly effective.
Other, less obvious factors include the role of Jews in the political consulting/polling/advertising industry, in the universities, think-tanks, foundations, and prominent policy shops, and even in high-level staff and advisory positions in the labor movement. Even more than in the case of the media, these people may never even mention the words Israel or Palestine, but their ability to define which ideas and people are "serious" and "legitimate" and which are not powerfully shapes the contours of our politics.
Phil, I think you know all this very well, but sometimes - as in the case of this post - you lapse into the votes vs. money framework, which IMO is really inadequate to the problem.
Full translation of the Norwegian-language page Phil links to, from this site:
Headline:
Jonas Gahr Store: - The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now
Header:
The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.
Picturetext:
AUF WANT BOYCOTT: Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store was met by demands that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya Thursday. Here the Minister ushered around in the camp of the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen. (Reuters)
Text:
During the second day of Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Party's young hopefuls visit by Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.
Together with the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation correspondent Sidsel Wold and Norwegian People's Aid Kirsten Belck-Olsen, discussed the Foreign Minister of the deadlock between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
As foreign minister arrived Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.
- The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.
- Norway is prepared to recognize
Earlier this week, when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visited Norway, the Minister said to TV 2 news channel that Norway stands ready to recognize a Palestinian state . This he repeated during the debate on Utøya.
- We are ready to recognize a Palestinian state. I await the actual resolution text Palestinians will promote the UN General Assembly in September, said the Minister.
In autumn it is expected that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will bring the matter to the UN. Where will he ask for UN membership and recognition of a Palestinian state within the borders before the 1967 war, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
Wednesday said AUF leader Eskil Pedersen that the AUF want a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.
- Labour Youth will have a more activist Middle East policy and we have to recognize Palestine. NOK NOK's, now we have to get the peace process into a new track, said Pedersen.
The foreign minister admitted that the situation is untenable, but believes that the boycott is the wrong tool.
- Boycott will be to move from dialogue to monologue. It is difficult to open the door the day we will talk with Israel, said the Minister.
The posted pix are definitely of Kathy Kelly and Missy Lane, both of whom were passengers with me on The Audacity of Hope. For those who don't know Kathy, she was a founder of the non-violent direct-action group Voices in the Wilderness and now co-coordinates the Center for Creative Nonviolence. She has done peace work of various kinds all over the world, including Haiti, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq (she was in Baghdad during the shock-and-awe attack in 2003), not to mention the US of A.
Missy has led several groups of Americans visiting the West Bank.
Gee, State Department, thanks so much for that helpful info and advice. I'm up early here in Athens, but once my fellow passengers on The Audacity of Hope are up and about, I'll definitely let them know how you feel, and I'm sure we'll all be reconsidering our plans - not...
I've had my differences with some of Professor Slater's previous posts, but IMO this one is superb. It's depressing that even someone like David Shulman, who has written very powerfully about the human reality of the occupation, especially in the South Hebron Hills, still suffers from such an enormous blindspot about Israel's nature. (Ditto re Jessica Montell and associates at B'Tselem.)
Slater mentions two of his previous articles about Israel's history of attacking civilians, but the links attached to "here and here" evidently didn't come through when Phil or Adam posted the piece. To save everyone else the small bother of going to Slater's own site to find working versions of these links, they are here and here. In the latter case, you have to scroll down a bit to get the post I'm pretty sure means, the one entitled "The Goldstone Commission Report, Part 2: Did Israel Deliberately Attack Gazan Civilians?" If you don't want to bother scrolling, go straight here instead.