Commenter Profile

Total number of comments: 5006 (since 2010-01-30 17:02:32)

Sumud

Showing comments 5006 - 5001
Page:

  • How many 'Palestinian Arabs' want to kill 'all Jews?'
    • Hopefully we will hear from editor Pamela Paul with much proof, and if we are lucky also from Mr Walter Schimmerling of Washington, himself – author of the offensive letter.

      James have you contacted them inviting their contribution? Pamela Paul would be easy enough to contact, I did a search looking for more information about Schimmerling and I do get a Washington based NASA employee - possibly retired now, referenced in this 2002 UPI article:

      NASA has set a goal to improve radiation exposure predictions, understand how radiation affects the human body and design countermeasures so that low-Earth orbiting crewmembers can boost cumulative space missions to an average of 380 days in space, said Walter Schimmerling, head NASA's radiation programs at the agency's Washington, D.C. headquarters.

      A 2012 letter to the editor of American Physical Society from a Walter Schimmerling, Washington, DC mentions the nazis then 'genocidal' Iran and their nuclear programme, and Israel, so I presume it is the same 'gentlemen' masquerading as a scientist interested in facts [my emphasis]:

      Heisenberg joined the Nazi efforts to develop an atomic bomb and his latter-day colleagues in Iran are happily working on the development of nuclear weapons to serve their country’s genocidal objectives. Sakharov fathered the Soviet hydrogen bomb before he got religion and became a dissident. Oppenheimer was easily manipulated by Haakon Chevalier and ensnared by Buddhist mysticism. Philby, MacLean, Burgess and Blunt spied for the Soviet Union out of idealism. Linus Pauling developed vitamin C into a cult. Even the giants of physics, Newton and Einstein, did not always have “something special to share.” Newton delved into astrology when he was done with mechanics; when Einstein was asked to become the first president of Israel, the people who asked him had to worry about a worst-case scenario: that he might accept.

      From the same letter I will quote Mr Schimmerling, ironically he says:

      Furthermore, scientists outside their narrow field of specialization tend to be naifs.

      Various web searched only turn up one person in Washington so it probably is him...

  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • I'm surprised (not really) that Daniel Pipes doesn't have the good sense to shut up.

      Miller and his cohorts cite Max as an information source but then insult him with "kike" and "queer" and my personal favourite "that douche bag sodomite" (it has a nice rhythm to it.)

      Whereas, Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik cited Daniel Pipes in his manifesto as an inspiration, along with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Geert Wilders, Bat Ye'or, Pamela Geller, and finally her BFF Robert Spencer, who is mentioned no less than 64 times, and quoted extensively.

      Limbaugh seems to have been silent on Breivik at the time.

  • Updated: Remote-control gun installed atop wall near Bethlehem -- Ma'an
    • Water gun?
      Water cannon?
      Super-soaker?
      Napalm dispenser?

      Take your pick or suggest another...

    • Thanks Henry I was going to mention Cook's article myself. FYI the original version at The National is here: link to thenational.ae

      Most disgusting is that Israeli weapons manufacturers are allowed to use Gazans - who cannot escape - as live guinea pigs to test their weapons systems. And Israel claims to be the victim.

      Within a short time since they killed at "several dozen" Palestinians, and that was way back in 2010. I wonder what their 'tally' is now.

      Cook [my emphasis]:

      Philip Alston, its [the UN] special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, warned last month of the danger that a "PlayStation mentality to killing" could quickly emerge.

      According to analysts, however, Israel is unlikely to turn its back on hardware that it has been at the forefront of developing - using the occupied Palestinian territories, and especially Gaza, as testing laboratories.
      ...
      The Israeli army, which plans to introduce the technology along Israel's other confrontation lines, refuses to say how many Palestinians have been killed by the remotely controlled machine-guns in Gaza. According to the Israeli media, however, it is believed to be several dozen.

      The system was phased-in two years ago for surveillance, but operators were only able to open fire with it more recently.

  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • Friedman has to maintain the fairy tale about the apartheid wall for 2 reasons:
      - Palestinians are savages and still want to kill the joooos
      - the awkward questions that will follow about the real reason Israel built the wall, since it wasn't to stop suicide bombers. "Moderate" Tzipi Livni as described in a US Embassy cable from 2007:

      In the same interview, Livni provided an outline of her thinking, but not a detailed plan, on the way ahead with the Arabs, including negotiating an interim agreement with the Palestinians in which the separation barrier would serve as the border, and refusing to engage with Syria unless Asad takes steps to end support for terrorism and distances himself from Iran.

    • We’re not dealing anymore with your grandfather’s Israel...

      Yes we are Friedman, you're just v e r y slow on the uptake.

      It's not over until 1947/8/9 has been dealt with.

    • Page: 50
  • Fear of Arab-Americans in the public square
    • Walid ~ Never Again!

      I'm a good student, and TV was awash with WW2 and holocaust documentaries when I was growing up. Schinder's List at the movies etc.

      It's not my fault zionists didn't advertise the disclaimer (Never Again For Jews Only"), and now I'm too old to change. Or rather, I don't want to.

      I see now the article Phil links to is 5 years old so that would account for some of the missing countries eg. Yemen, Mali. It doesn't change the fact that Walt underestimated his numbers for the other countries, a lot. It's kind of insulting to the dead that he couldn't include a high as well as a low estimate. Why write a piece to explain ME anger towards the US if you're going to play down the figures?

      I wasn't joking about making that comparison - it's not a rhetorical point, I really do think of that, automatically. It raise the question – and I'm guessing Walt would not like it – of just what is acceptable? Is 25% of a holocaust OK? Or just 20% High estimates for the Vietnam War are nearly 4 million - so 65% of a holocaust, is that OK? Is it cumulative?

      I don't think Walt – who claims to be a FP realist – is doing his American readers any favours by glossing over the terrible thing his country is responsible for.

    • They are enraged at an Establishment that has helped kill at least 288,000 Muslims...

      Stephen Walt sure does lowball that figure in that FP. He says - and emphasises - that he has selected "low-end' estimates but this is false. Walt arbitrarily nominates 100,000 "excess deaths" for the 1990s sanctions era in Iraq, and the same for the post-2003 period in Iraq.

      None of the conservative estimates for the sanctions era deaths are as low as 100,000, the lowest being 170,000 and more commonly it is around 350,000-500,000.

      Post-2003 estimates range up to more than a million people, even the very conservative Iraq Body Count estimates 174,000 for combined civilian and combatant deaths.

      Also missing from Walt's estimates, deaths in the following countries caused by missile and drone attacks:

      - Libya
      - Pakistan
      - Yemen
      - Somalia
      - Mali

      We also don't hear from Walt about the US role in fomenting the terrible war in Syria, admittedly an estimate of US-caused deaths would be tricky here.

      At any rate the premise, that the US has done much to garner resentment of muslims and arabs over the last three decades, is sound - but lowballing the figures is lazy and possibly vain. I don't know about other people here at MW but when I start seeing death figure estimates go to 1 or 1.5 or 2 million I can't help but relate it to holocaust deaths numbers...

  • Alterman says BDS is helping Netanyahu
    • puppies ~

      That’s exactly the type of people who are leading today’s “limited boycott” limited to post-67 occupation settlers only...

      They're not leading anything - I'd eat my hat if Beinart has ever checked a product for a 729 barcode or investigated which companies are actually profiting from the occupation.

      "Limited boycott" isn't about activism it's ideological posturing which these fake [PEP] liberals need before they can look in the mirror each day. And of course must keep up appearances and wring hands to maintain some semblance of credibility among the gullible...

  • Alleged K.C. killer: 'If Jews can have a state of their own, why can't we have a White Christian state?'
    • Aryan supremacism from the nazis.
      Jewish supremacism from the zionists.
      White supremacism from the KKK-types.

      Three peas in a very nasty pod.

  • Two desperate anti-Semitism charges, from Foxman and Boteach
    • China was allowed to participate in the Shakespeare festival without Ms. Thompson demanding a pound of flesh.

      From a light unto nations to we're on par with China - why is he bragging again?

  • Amid 'climate of fear' at Vassar, president comes out against 'action and protest' re Israel
    • weareone ~ I'm not opposed to face-to-face dialogue between Israelis and Palestinians, it's essential – but it has to come at the right time. Organisations like B'Tselem and ICAHD are wonderful and I support them 100%.

      The point Phil makes is that some zionists seem to think their moral duties are discharged once they have heard how terrible life is in Palestine. It isn't.

      To use the sexual assault metaphor – first priority is to stop the assault and make the victim safe. True reconciliation – I suggest in the form of a South Africa-style Truth and Reconciliation Commission – cannot begin occur until the assault has ended.

    • We have seen again and again that dialogue doesn’t affect the power arrangements one iota; it only allows supporters of the occupier to feel that they have atoned (we are critical too!) without doing a thing to address the structural inequity.

      This is critical to understand - dialogue is Israel's "peace process" for the rest of us...

  • The Jewish community must not embrace Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    • What would you do to correct it seafoid? I'd start with abolishing the UN SC veto and making all 15 seats impermanent.

      The vast majority are decent people who try to live their lives in difficult circumstances.

      So true. Even though I was reasonably politically aware in the early 2000s it wasn't until I live in the ME later that decade until I fully understood the truly monumental scale of the anti-arab and anti-muslim propaganda we (westerners) have all been subjected to, the ultimate Big Lie.

      PS. you might have notice I call you seafood sometimes - it's the stupid autocorrect, I don't always catch it, oops...

    • “Are you really going to tell a catholic or protestant that one version or the other is more authentic?”. Yes.

      More fool you then!

      One half of my family are catholic and the other protestant. In general, people adopt the faith they were born in to, it rarely has anything to do with authenticity.

      I'm an atheist so you're all wrong :-) however I advocate a live and let live approach, and know that there are pearls of wisdom to be had in all religion(s).

    • Roha ~ you were correct first time I was referring to Burj Khalifa. When I was in UAE I lived a few hundred metres away and watched it being built.

      For you to think I was talking about KL you must have been surprised by something I wrote?

    • Thanks all.

    • It does look so fake Maximus I assumed it was bleached - I never knew it was so dark though...

    • It seems sensible to refer to the most common interpretation(s) rather than believing the reactionary extremists when they say their version of islam is the true one.

      Do the KKK represent the true face (whatever that is) of christianity? I don't think so.

      I think you wondering what is the most "authentic" version of a religion is a bit muddle-headed. Are you really going to tell a catholic or protestant that one version or the other is more authentic? Movements splinter and change over time - even a short time, that's just how it is. And even within a single denomination, interpretations change.

      Would the kind of catholicism that forced my great aunt to have her left hand tied behind her back as a child so she wouldn't write with it (because left-handedness is a mark of the devil) be considered more authentic than a modern interpretation which would condemn it? Is there even anything textual in the bible about left- and right-handedness anyway? I honestly don't know and actually don't care. It's ridiculous - and we reject any such notion because we - our society - has evolved beyond such backwards notions.

      Is it right to separate ideas on religion from the cultural and political environment in which a religion operates? We justly condemn the 9/11 hijackers, but to simply reject them as terrorists, extremists, fundamentalists without paying attention to their grievances is stupid beyond imagination.

      Hirsi-ali and her neocon friends don't want us to think about the fact the hijackers were pissed off by:

      • US complicity in the ongoing atrocities against Palestinians
      • The genocidal sanctions against Iraq in the 1990s - a nation of about 30 million:

      (Would it be appropriate to describe that mass murder as a christian project?)

      But these are irrelevant for Hirsi-Ali. The problem is not what the jihadist are mad about – because they can have no legitimate grievances or even agency – for Hirsi-Ali they are programmed robots, not far from a Dalek: "exterminate, exterminate, exterminate" - and be afraid, they're coming to get YOU.

      It's actually pretty absurd when you unpack it.

      How can we talk about the Syrian horror without talking about the fact that the CIA has been running weapons into the country since almost the beginnings of the conflict? Is that also a reflection on christianity? The annihilation of Japanese civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? In God We Trust?

      What does it mean that the engineering masterpiece that is the tallest building in the world is in a muslim-majority state? That 60% of university graduates in that state are woman? That just 60 years ago 99% of the population of that state lived in grass huts with no electricity or potable water? Can we attribute that state 60 years ago to religion or intense poverty and lack of natural resources?

      The problem is people, not religion.

      Hirsi-Ali lives in a tiny little world with blinkers on and she wants you there too. I don't know what her personal demons are, but the world is bigger and more complex and actually a much nicer place than she would have you believe.

    • ...meek turned monster

      I'll bet a handsome brown man teased Geert Wilders about his ridiculous hair when he was young.

    • AHA is still listed as a fellow on the AEI web site, she's a "scholar" apparently:

      link to aei.org

      All part of the nazi propaganda machine designed to dehumanise the jews, oops... I mean the neocon game to dehumanise muslims in the name of getting rich off the Global War On Terror - and spilling American blood on behalf of Israel.

  • For Miliband, the road to 10 Downing Street runs through Jerusalem and Sderot
    • Yes, and they've caused about 25 deaths in 15 years, those rockets from Gaza.

      Meanwhile about 6,000 Israeli motorists died in car accidents during the same time period. Even the cars are anti-semitic in Israel.

    • Krauss you should have checked your own comment history first. You said:

      eGuard et al, I’ve given plenty of instances about Ken Livingstone.
      It’s not for a lack of evidence, it’s for a lack of audience, who have come to refuse that anything such as anti-Semitism exists.

      I searched you profile for "Livingstone" and got back 2 response only, both on this thread:

      link to mondoweiss.net

      This is not a 'gotcha' and I don't care to get involved in your spat with puppies, I searched because I wanted to read what Livingstone had said that you thought was anti-semitic.

      So... what was it?

  • 'Not a single person in this room would accept living as Palestinians do, generation after generation'
    • Whirlygig - didn't your parents teach you manners? It's rude to answer a question with a question.

      I'll ask again:

      what’s your estimate for reparations for 66 years of Nakba – and counting?

      Do you think Israel can afford to pay it?

      I will answer your question as a courtesy – noting that arab jews coming to Israel and Palestinian refugees are separate issues altogether. You're just trying to change the subject...

      We both know that the vast majority of jewish arabs that moved to Israel in the 20 years from 1948 chose to leave their native country voluntarily - to make aliyah to Israel. That when Israel encouraged the mizrahi to register claims only about 1% (i believe it was 14,000) of the immigrant population filled out the paperwork and then ...poof! The paperwork went AWOL or got damaged. Either way it's a failed attempt to try and counter Palestinians claims about the nakba.

      Still, in case(s) where there are actually refugees instead of voluntary immigrants – such as Egypt – then it's only fair that reparations and compensation be paid by the offending country. I'm no hypocrite, are you?

      Further – in cases such as Iraq where Israel bombed synagogues etc to terrorise the jewish population to flee - then Israel should contribute significantly to the reparations. So many lives Israel has destroyed, without care.

      Now - back to my questions...?

    • Whirlygig - what's your estimate for reparations for 66 years of Nakba - and counting?

      Do you think Israel can afford to pay it?

    • I think it is antithetical to thought.

      In the world according to yonah Israel is pure as the driven snow and has zero impact on the behaviour and policy of any other country in the region, including Palestine (formerly the PA).

      No wonder you resort to racist stereotypes about 'the other' - since you are determined to not consider how the dominant power in the region (and it's best friend global superpower the US) effects other countries, you have little choice but racism to justify your shaky world view.

      Antithetical to thought, indeed.

      How 'bout those awful pictures of jews in the Warsaw Ghetto walking past sick and dying people on the street and just ignoring them. The inhumanity of it. Jewish self-governance sure is ugly.

  • Amira Hass predicts Israel's 'colonial project' will eventually fail--but at what cost?
    • The book about Japan sounds interesting seafood, will pick it up.

      A bit more... I've never really understood the ferocity of naziism, but after watching Grand Illusion, today I am wondering if the real explanation lay in that now-extinct code of honour that existed in Europe before WW1.

      If you don't value honour and integrity then betrayal is hardly going to offend you. But if you do, then betrayal and unfair treatment offends greatly, outrages even. The crippling terms of the Treaty of Versailles, new and persuasive propaganda techniques, and the belief that German jews had betrayed Germany causing it to lose WW1, these together must have formed a 'perfect storm', fertile ground for naziism.

      Hmm...

    • Japanese militarism in the 30s and 40s was also nuts but you still had intellectuals who questioned it. Why are there so few mavericks* when it comes to Israel?

      Culturally programmed post-shoah nihilism.

      You can see it in Defamation, the young Israeli girls visiting a concentration camp talk with a stranger and because of the language barrier they don't understand what he is saying, and automatically assume he hates jews and is being anti-semitic. They've been told all their lives that the world hates jews – once total strangers are by definition "a hostile enemy" then all bets are off and all normative rules are out the window.

      In displaying what I'll call honourable behaviour† people like Amira Hass, Gideon Levy and the soldiers from Breaking the Silence are exceptions to the rule among zionists and are ostracised and called traitors and the ridiculous "self-hating jew".

      I think their sense of justice can only have come from parenting or a strong moral example during formative years – learning that honesty and integrity are the highest values and they trump all. Avigail Abarbanel talks about growing up and not even hearing the word "Palestine" until her teen years, and knowing she was supposed to be afraid of 'the arabs'. So her parents didn't teach her to be anti-zionist, just the opposite. But the logic of her value system means she has to challenge zionism.

      I wonder if those values – honesty and integrity – have come from parents, how have the parents also not come to challenge zionism?

      †I watched Jean Renoir's 1937 WW1 film La Grande Illusion last night, a masterpiece. As the film opens German Eric Von Stroheim shoots down a French reconnaissance plane and says to his men, 'go pick up the French and if they're officers invite them for lunch'. So the French prisoners of war and their German captors sit down and have meal and wine and reminisce about the good old days in Berlin and Lyon. In the middle of the war! The breakdown of class runs through the film, with the officers talking about the tension between egalitarianism and the aristocracy and their codes of duty and honourable behaviour.

      That film and the Archer's 1943 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, which covers the similar territory but in the context of WW2, are a great pair to watch together and you can easily extrapolate to attitudes in Israel today (and the US and UK for that matter, if less so).

  • Simon Schama's Israel whitewash
    • That guy is a freak Ellen - obsessed with 'rooting out online anti-semitism' but no problems advocating the murder of muslims, arabs and anyone else opposed to jewish supremacism, and spreading the most vile and slanderous propaganda.

      During the Free Gaza Flotilla he said on his twitter more than once that Israel should just sink the ships and kill ALL the activists. You know - mass murder.

      The content is not intended to malign any religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company or individual. This site's intention is to do no harm, to not injure others, defame, or libel.

      Yup, sure.

  • 'There's a lot of anti-Semitism out there' -- Johansson reviews her role as 'new face of apartheid'
    • Aren't losing JeffB?

      You can't extrapolate a decade or two and see that the game is up? Don't believe me, listen to the Olmerts who have both said that Israel as an apartheid state is not sustainable.

      You can accuse BDS of being anti-semitic if you like but people don't seem to be buying it - maybe something to do with the fairly large contradiction between advocating for universal human rights and anti-semitism. They also don't seem to be too impressed by the standard ziobot line "look over there".

      You're on a sinking ship JeffB. Wouldn't your energy be better directed at trying to bring about sustainable change in Israel?

    • Further to Donald and Brenda's point, the same also applies to countries outside the US including my own, Australia. Israel is presented to us as an ally with common values by bought politicians, and I say NO, NOT IN MY NAME.

      JeffB, can you please name the country that is responsible for:
      - creating the largest refugee population in the world today
      - maintaining the longest military occupation in the world today
      - being in defiance of more UN SC resolutions than any other country today.

      Finally, despite people doing you the courtesy of responding, myself included, no person ever needs to justify why they stand up for human rights.

      It is not BDS'ers who seek to misdirect, deny and justify occupation, ethnic cleansing, pillage, torture, murder and even massacres. That's you guys, and that's why you're losing. Pretty simple.

    • The Crime of Apartheid as defined in 1973, as opposed to apartheid as practiced in South Africa:

      For the purpose of the present Convention, the term 'the crime of apartheid', which shall include similar policies and practices of racial segregation and discrimination as practiced in southern Africa, shall apply to the following inhumane acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them:

      a. Denial to a member or members of a racial group or groups of the right to life and liberty of person
      i. By murder of members of a racial group or groups;
      ii. By the infliction upon the members of a racial group or groups of serious bodily or mental harm, by the infringement of their freedom or dignity, or by subjecting them to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment;
      iii. By arbitrary arrest and illegal imprisonment of the members of a racial group or groups;
      b. Deliberate imposition on a racial group or groups of living conditions calculated to cause its or their physical destruction in whole or in part;
      c. Any legislative measures and other measures calculated to prevent a racial group or groups from participation in the political, social, economic and cultural life of the country and the deliberate creation of conditions preventing the full development of such a group or groups, in particular by denying to members of a racial group or groups basic human rights and freedoms, including the right to work, the right to form recognised trade unions, the right to education, the right to leave and to return to their country, the right to a nationality, the right to freedom of movement and residence, the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association;
      d. Any measures including legislative measures, designed to divide the population along racial lines by the creation of separate reserves and ghettos for the members of a racial group or groups, the prohibition of mixed marriages among members of various racial groups, the expropriation of landed property belonging to a racial group or groups or to members thereof;
      e. Exploitation of the labour of the members of a racial group or groups, in particular by submitting them to forced labour;
      f. Persecution of organizations and persons, by depriving them of fundamental rights and freedoms, because they oppose apartheid.

      With the exception of point e., the use of forced labour, Israel qualifies in all categories that I can see, including inside Israel proper.

    • ScarJo did not go to Harvard, at least not for an education.

  • Aussie media focus on Carr's assertion that Israel lobby had 'direct line' into Prime Minister's office
    • Thanks I didn't see that Inanna, I was travelling through that time period - do you know if there's any footage around of her then?

    • Sounds like Rudd was rather more pissed at Israel (then conciliatory) in the first half of 2010 than I realised:

      What am I, chopped liver? How Rudd dived into schmooze mode

      The UN vote that Rudd changed from a NO to ABSTAIN was calling for action against Israel over their bloodbath in Gaza in 2008/9. I wonder if that can of worms will be re-opened if Abbas goes to the ICC?

    • Unlike Israel - and nazi Germany - all Australians have full equal rights, none are denied the vote and discrimination (racial, religious, other) is prohibited by law.

      Unlike Israel - and nazi Germany - we do not invade foreign countries transferring our citizens into overseas settlements, plunder the occupied territories and commit multiple instances of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the occupied population.

      Take a look in the mirror Mayhem, try to be honest.

      That you would equate discussion of a visible lobby group for a foreign country with naziism and the holocaust reflects your unhinged mental state, but not a lot more.

    • I heard rumours to that effect lysias but don't know of anything substantial.

      Earlier in 2010 Rudd's government was vocally critical of Israel after it was discovered that 4 Australian passports had been stolen and used in the murder of the Hamas guy in Dubai, from memory Rudd changed an Australian I/P related vote at the UN from a NO to ABSTAIN. Also Mossad's station chief in Australai was expelled. Other than that he was consistently pro-Israel.

      After being deposed, he went to a BDS-targetted Max Brenner here in Melbourne with Danby and various other pro-Israel jewish politicians (and the media) to have a hot chocolate and tell the community that BDS was comparable to the nazi boycott of jewish business in pre-war Germany. That struck me as a very odd thing to do ...you could interpret it as a mea culpa of sorts, but without inside information it remains speculation.

    • (Concurrent events for two quoted articles below from late June 2010:
      May 31, 2010 - really shocking Israeli raid on humanitarian flotilla to Gaza killing 9 activists and injuring more than 50.
      June 24, 2010 - leadership spill and Julia Gillard ousts Kevin Rudd as PM.)

      Recall that PM Julia Gillard's partner Tim Mathieson, formerly a hairdresser, was employed in late 2009 by a leading Australian Israel lobbyist Albert Dadon:

      Ms Gillard had disclosed to the register of MPs' interests that Mr Mathieson started work with Ubertas in November 2009. In June 2009, she and Mr Mathieson had led other Australian politicians, including Liberals Christopher Pyne and Peter Costello, in Jerusalem at the first Australia Israel Leadership Forum.
      At a second forum in December 2009, also addressed by Kevin Rudd, she acknowledged Mr Dadon and his wife for their support of the forum.
      ...
      A former Australian ambassador to Israel, Ross Burns, had accused Ms Gillard in a letter to The Sydney Morning Herald of being silent on the ''excesses'' of Israel and questioned why Mr Mathieson had been given the job by Mr Dadon.
      ''I've made up my own views about Israel and made them publicly known well before there was any suggestion that my partner would work in a property group associated with Mr Dadon,'' Ms Gillard said.

      PM defends partner's property job

      Mathieson resigned from his position with Dadon's company later in 2010 apparently.

      Most of the article from one day prior to above outlining Ross Burn's concerns about Gillard's and the governments position on Israel:

      Ms Gillard has been part of the Australian delegation to the last two meetings of the Australia Israel Leadership Forum, founded by the Melbourne property developer Albert Dadon.
      Mr Dadon employs Ms Gillard's partner, Tim Mathieson, as a real estate salesman, at Ubertas. Mr Burns said yesterday that Ms Gillard was at the forum's inaugural meeting in Israel last June, six months after the Israeli army invaded the Gaza Strip, killing more than 1000 Palestinians.
      She was also the acting prime minister when the invasion took place, and issued a statement at the time criticising the Palestinian group Hamas for firing rockets into southern Israel. It did not condemn Israel for causing civilian casualties.
      The former prime minister, Kevin Rudd, and the Foreign Affairs Minister, Stephen Smith, have since expressed unease at the subsequent blockade of Gaza by Israel.
      ''It looks a bit funny when you go on this tour to promote bilateral relations, but you don't seem to have any reservations about the issue that was number one on the horizon,'' Mr Burns said.
      Another former Australian ambassador to Tel Aviv, Peter Rodgers, who served in the Israeli capital from 1994 to 1997, also criticised the government's attitude towards Israel.
      He said last night that under successive governments, Australia's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict had become increasingly unbalanced, and that this was unlikely to change under Ms Gillard's stewardship.
      ''There's been a marked swing away from the old attempt to be even-handed on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, to a much more determined pro-Israeli position, and I think Gillard is part of that,'' Mr Rodgers said.
      The Herald sought comments from Ms Gillard, Michael Danby, a prominent Jewish federal MP - and a supporter of Ms Gillard in last week's leadership coup - and Mr Dadon for this article, but received no response.

      Former ambassadors question silence on the 'excesses' of Israel

  • State Dep't tries to clean up Kerry's 'Poof'
    • Of course it has. It has offered to trade territory in pre-1967 Israel for territory in the West Bank. It has also offered money.

      The scenario of land trading you describe still represents a Palestinian not an Israeli concession, since Palestinians are expected to accept land with little value in exchange for extremely valuable land located directly over the West Bank aquifer. Also, both parcels of land are outside Israel's own declared borders, those as specified in UN181.

      Money - I suppose that counts as a concession if it were paid as reparations. Details of this money offered please, links documents etc.

    • The UN doesn’t have enough teeth to get a major territory concession from Israel

      Ending occupation of occupied territory is not a concession.

      Israel has never offered any concession (giving up of something it is legally entitled to) in any negotiation.

      I don't think Israel would be nearly as robust under international sanctions as you think.

    • Better to laugh than cry about it (The West Wing, season 3: the holy land map):

  • 66 years ago today 42 members of my family were slaughtered in Deir Yassin
  • Maryland legislature passes toned down anti-BDS language
    • Dustbin of history is where you’ll soon find BDS, just like any other Jamestown Kool Aid cult.

      Jamestown - where is that again?

      Let me guess - just north of Jaffa (Yaffo), about 15km NW of Lod (Lydda), or 50km N of Askelon (Asqalan)...?

    • Hophmi -

      I can see how people might argue (wrongly, but at least logically) that BDS is about achieving a political or human rights goal. But arguing that it’s a stance about academic freedom is completely hypocritical. I can’t think of anything more hypocritical than claiming that you’re defending academic freedom by boycotting academics.

      In effect you are arguing that imprisoning criminals in defence of law-abiding citizen's rights and freedoms, is hypocritical and anti-freedom.

      I don't believe you're that stupid hophmi, why the play-acting?

      If you want to stop BDS then all you need to do is pressure the Israeli government to end it's criminal behaviour and observe Palestinians human rights. So simple.

      War is over if you want it.

  • 'For me, Palestine is paradise': An interview with Leila Khaled
    • Interested Bystander -

      On the other hand, when Kaled talks of violence against civilians, it has an element of ethnic cleansing about it that is equally not justified.

      Please quote where Khaled "talks of violence against civilians".

    • That number of six million Palestinians being discussed here is muddying the water. If we assume a 4% growth rate for the 720,000 displaced by the Nakhba, that means that population might have grown to ~1.8 million over the succeeding sixty-five years.

      I would suggest just making up numbers based on assumptions is also "muddying the waters".

      There are 5 million Palestinian refugees as of 2012: link to en.wikipedia.org

      Leila Khaled was four when her parents left Haifa in the Nakhba. She has been granted citizenship in Jordan. She has found a new and happy life. She is married to a physician, has been a teacher and lecturer around the world. She has two sons. She thinks it is right for her children to pick up a gun to undo Israel. It’s not clear she has a moral claim to this; she certainly has no claim of necessity.

      How condescending. What other war crimes do you advocate states should get away with?

      She says for her Palestine is Paradise. She doesn’t mean two states. She means to acquire this Paradise with a gun.

      Sounds sinister if you haven't read what Khaled actually says, ie. advocates for resistance of all sorts, and also:

      We have always offered the more human solution. A place where everybody lives on an equal basis. Jewish, Muslims, I do not care about the religion of the person. I believe in the human being itself. Human beings can sit together and can decide together the future of this land. But I cannot accept that I do not have the right, now, to go back to my city. Like six million Palestinians. We are not allowed to go there. We are offering a human and democratic solution. Nobody can tell me that we cannot decide the fate of our country because we are refugees. What happened to us is a first in history, as far as I know. People being chased away from their homes and another people, coming from very far away, taking their places. The Israelis were citizens of other countries. Israel, thanks to various organizations, before 1948, built an army, Okay, but there was no society. They brought people from outside. Even now, there are huge contradictions in this country and this society. People come from different cultures, some do not even speak Hebrew. We do not want more blood, but are obliged to resist. We have the right to live in our homeland.

      "this Paradise" is not something Khaled plans to "acquire", it is already hers. She is merely asserting her legal right to return.

      It's about time Israelis got their head around the fact that Palestinians from Palestine are indigenous, not foreign interlopers coming from far away to steal their land and ethnically cleanse them.

  • Friedman says Iran's friends include BDS and Jews in Open Hillel movement
    • JeffB - You didn't address this part of what I wrote:

      Likewise the nefarious influence of the Israel lobby and it’s distortion of US foreign policy.

      Seems to me a bipartisan concern and if you read comments from the NYT to the WaPo and beyond they have changed flavour significantly in the last few years - a lot of anger and disgust now being displayed by Americans towards Israel and their behaviour, and zionist influence on US foreign policy.

      People keep being told how much they love Israel by the media but nobody can tell them why.

      You claimed Israel serves American interests but when challenged to explain how your answer was rather limp and mostly about Israel serving it's own interests. Perhaps if Israel had a mutual defence treaty with the US and the IDF had fought beside the US army like a genuine ally, then you might have a point. But alas this hasn't happened and likely never will - the freeloading nation doesn't want to be a real ally, just the $$ and for the US to keep using that veto power in the UN SC.

      I agree with some of what you wrote otherwise but your argument rests on a left - neocon axis, not left - right. You're ignoring non-neocon conservatives.

    • The assertion that the Palestinians accepted Israel at the 1949 armistice line implies that there would be no real outstanding issues other than that of borders.

      No it doesn't. Congratulations on refuting an argument no-one made.

      Otherwise the assertion of an acceptance of Israel at those lines is meaningless.

      This is comedy hour? Surely you misquoted Phil in error and just don't want to admit it...?

      Recognising Israel at the 1949 armistice lines was two major concessions rolled into one, renouncing a claim of all of mandate Palestine and conceding half the Palestinian partition under UN181 to Israel.

      It's absurd to call that "meaningless", in any context. You must be a terrible negotiator.

      Friedman is searching for bogeymen to pin the occupation on because he doesn't want to admit how badly Israel has fucked things up, all by itself. He has to ignore multiple chances Israel had to end the occupation (or even just stop expanding settlements) as partially outlined by Phil referring to 1988 and the API of 2002.

      Friedman:

      I don’t know if Israel has a Palestinian partner for a secure withdrawal from the West Bank, or ever will.

      Why doesn't he know? Of course he knows.

    • Did the PLO really propose giving up the right of return?

      Where does Phil claim this in his article?

    • Blame Canada! Harper is the perfect fall guy, complete with piano synthesiser.

    • As you move away from the hardcore left of the ASA towards the moderation of say American Mathematical Society or even the true rightwing academic parties like American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics how much do you think a call to radical progressive politics works?

      Hardly relevant as BDS is not "a call to radical progressive politics".

      You don't have to be a liberal to understand that ethnic cleansing, killing civilians, torture, house demolitions and massive property rights violations are wrong. Likewise the nefarious influence of the Israel lobby and it's distortion of US foreign policy.

      Do you think Israel's obsession with getting Pollard freed is any more appealing to conservatives than liberals? I don't.

      Americans are rather less stupid than you might hope.

  • Apathy in Ramallah as negotiations with Israel dive
    • While I agree Israelis are a precious lot, that would be playing very precisely into their hands; they know only how to combat (and spin) violence, not peaceful actions.

      Regardless if the perpetrators were Palestinian or not, global support for BDS would evaporate and we'd be back in familiar territory - the height of the second intifada with Israelis bleating endlessly about terrorism meanwhile killing Palestinians by the dozen.

      No, thank you!

  • When Anja Niedringhaus went to Gaza
  • 'NYT' readers who objected to calling Abbas 'defiant' have a point, public editor rules
    • jon s ~ I just can't take zionist complaints about racism seriously, when MacDonald's white nationalism is near-identical to zionist jewish nationalism.

      In January 2010, MacDonald began acting as director of the newly founded political party American Third Position, which declares America a white Christian nation and advocates for limiting "non-white" immigration into the United States. A statement on their website reads, "If current demographic trends persist, European-Americans will become a minority in America in only a few decades time. The American Third Position will not allow this to happen. To safeguard our identity and culture, and to secure an American future for our people, we will immediately put an indefinite moratorium on all immigration."

      Wikipedia: Kevin B. MacDonald / Affiliation

      It's not that you're against racism, just that he belongs to a different tribe than yours.

  • 'A Painful Price': The escalating war on Palestine solidarity at U of Michigan and beyond
    • "Z Zidan" and any other falsely accused students should be suing Dishell for libel and claiming significant financial damages.

      An indirect benefit - it would likely change a few minds on campus from undecided or anti- to pro-BDS when they see the slimy tactics zionists are resorting to to slander those in support of BDS. As usual the ziobots are their own worst enemy, and we need only tell the truth, relentlessly.

      I thought at the time that all these accusations of anti-semitism didn't add up.

  • Desmond Tutu: Maryland legislature's anti-boycott effort designed to 'punish and intimidate'
    • You're American, why are you focused on Israel instead of problems in the US? Why would you be advocating for the release of a convicted spy like Pollard???

      Oh yeah, it's that small thing called freedom, you condescending schmuck.

      BTW Tutu is active in lots of areas, within SA and internationally - at a glance (link below):

      4 Role since apartheid
      4.1 Role in South Africa
      4.1.1 Continued economic stratification and political corruption
      4.1.2 Complications accompanying initiation rituals
      4.1.3 Criticism of Tutu
      4.2 Chair of The Elders
      4.3 Role in the developing world
      4.3.1 Zimbabwe
      4.3.2 Solomon Islands
      4.4 Israel and Palestine
      4.4.1 Global March to Jerusalem
      4.4.2 Palestinian Christians
      4.4.3 Gaza
      4.4.4 Protests against Tutu in the United States
      4.5 China
      4.6 Tibet
      4.7 United Nations role
      4.7.1 Against poverty
      4.7.2 Against unilateralism
      4.7.3 HIV, AIDS and TB
      4.7.4 Church reform
      4.7.5 Bible
      4.7.6 Gay rights
      4.7.7 Women's rights
      4.7.8 Family planning
      4.7.9 Climate change
      4.7.10 US immigration laws
      4.8 Iraq War
      4.9 Imprisonment of Chelsea Manning
      4.10 Other humanitarian initiatives
      4.11 Academic role
      4.11.1 Genome
      4.12 Association of European Parliamentarians with Africa

      Wikipedia / Desmond Tutu / Role Since Apartheid

  • Both Sides: Anti-BDS concerns on campus vs. life in the occupied territories
    • Around 25 Israeli deaths in 15 years of rocket attacks, 400+ Israelis killed in car accidents annually.

      Israelis should be terrified of driving, not rockets.

      More than 3000 Gazans killed by Israeli rockets, missiles, flechettes etc. since 2005 when Israel supposedly withdrew from Gaza.

      War criminals and monsters of the sort that engineer a situation like Gaza are immoral freaks without humanity.

  • Reports: Abbas faults Israel for 'procrastinating,' says Palestine will move to join int'l organizations
    • I wonder if Abbas' move to action has anything to do with Dahlan's recently publicity blitz, what seems like a fairly thinly-veiled threat by the US/Israel to Abbas that he is expendable.

      Maybe Abbas does feel that he has some competition in Dahlan but if the US/Israel expected obedience they don't seem to have got it. By refusing to extend talks and joining additional international agencies he gains some credibility in the rest of the world, whereas we know Dahlan will be a ruthless but obedient Israeli stooge.

  • Settler seizure of Hebron house signals gov't effort to splinter Palestinian community
    • Now, there are 900 Jewish residents who want to live in peace and have access to the Cave of the Patriarchs.
      Can’t non-Israelis live in peace with others?

      Israeli settlers in the occupied Palestinian territories are complicit in war crimes under Geneva 4.

      We have seen your "peace"...

  • Mahmoud Abbas vs Mohammed Dahlan: The showdown begins
    • The back story on the Bush regime's failed coup in Gaza in 2007 after they didn't like the outcome of the Palestinian elections - Dahlan was the major Fatah player in Gaza:

      A clue comes toward the end of the video, which was found in a Fatah security building by Hamas fighters last June. Still bound and blindfolded, the prisoners are made to echo a rhythmic chant yelled by one of their captors: “By blood, by soul, we sacrifice ourselves for Muhammad Dahlan! Long live Muhammad Dahlan!”

      There is no one more hated among Hamas members than Muhammad Dahlan, long Fatah’s resident strongman in Gaza. Dahlan, who most recently served as Abbas’s national-security adviser, has spent more than a decade battling Hamas. Dahlan insists that abu Dan was tortured without his knowledge, but the video is proof that his followers’ methods can be brutal.

      Bush has met Dahlan on at least three occasions. After talks at the White House in July 2003, Bush publicly praised Dahlan as “a good, solid leader.” In private, say multiple Israeli and American officials, the U.S. president described him as “our guy.”

      Vanity Fair: The Gaza Bombshell

      It would be a disaster for Palestinian unity - and Palestinians in general for that matter - if Dahlan is installed after Abbas is gone.

  • Liberal Zionists are the new front line against BDS
    • jon s -

      Being “agnostic” on one state or two is very problematic, to put it mildly.

      Many people – including myself – don’t get on the bus without knowing the destination.

      jon maybe you haven't noticed yet but you're already on a bus and it's about to go over the edge of a cliff. I advise against further procrastination.

    • Once again – because [liberal] zionists keep lying about it – it's important to note that BDS is agnostic on a one- or two-state outcome and BDS' goals can be fully satisfied in either format, even one that leaves Israel as a state with a jewish majority.

      If jewish Israelis want this they need to negotiate with neighbouring arab states –including Palestine – and Palestinian refugees and come up with an offer of compensation that is acceptable to all parties, that will enable Palestinian refugees from Israel proper to settle permanently in a country other than Israel. Israel can modulate the number of returning refugees by offering a more or less generous compensation packages, and offers would have to accepted or declined on an individual basis for this mechanism to work.

      If a Palestinian refugee accepts to take up citizenship in another country, with compensation, it does not mean they are giving up their right of return, it means their right of return has been acknowledged by Israel and the two parties have come to a permanent negotiated settlement of the issue.

      It's pretty simple, but there is a lot of obfuscation going on by zionists as they attempt to "complicate" matters.

      It's worth watching Yael Aronoff's clip above. A lot of tired old hasbara – long since debunked by the Israeli New Historians – and she becomes most frantic when discussing the crimes committed by zionists in 1947/8/9. Given she is a professor in Israel Studies I can only assume she is aware of the New Historian's work and chooses to lie about their findings.

      Pretty despicable stuff.

  • Removal of Barnard Palestine solidarity banner was discriminatory act of censorship
  • Repression and resistance in Bethlehem's Aida refugee camp
  • Obama's European message-- self-determination, equality, dignity-- is null and void in Palestine
    • Aah that's wonderful Bumblebye thank for linking to it - I love the closing line:

      "Ethnic privilege at affordable prices"

      It's great to see how the water issue is getting more coverage these days, rewind 5 or so years to the World Bank report on water in I/P and it was hardly spoken about.

  • Right-wing news outlets attack U. Mich's divestment drive
    • The plant is considered a pest species in parts of the Mediterranean Basin due to its ability to spread rapidly beyond the zones it was originally cultivated. In Hebrew, the plant is referred to as "sabres."[10] Kishkashta, a main character on a 1970-80s Israeli children's show, "Ma Pit'om", was a large, talking felt puppet of the Opuntia cactus.

      Wikipedia: Opuntia ficus-indica

      Not only in the Mediterranean, in Australia in the late 19th/early 20th century what we called "prickly pear" caused massive problems, an introduced species that took over large tracts of farming land and was finally brought under control by an insect:
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      Possibly not a great choice for a nickname.

    • He's just tiresome - why doesn't he go back to AIPAC?

      When all is said and done there's little difference between AIPAC and J Street and the impossible construct, the "liberal zionist", they're all in favour of denying Palestinian rights and perpetuating Israeli jewish privilege over Palestinians.

  • Loyola student government president vetoes divestment resolution
    • If you're on an iOS device W.Jones try on a desktop or laptop. I've found that sometimes I get that error with the iOS YT app but the content will work on a different computer.

  • NY Times should apologize for publishing Palestinians 'have avowed as their goal the killing of all Jews'
    • Would they publish a letter from a Palestinian claiming that "Israelis have avowed as their goal the killing of all Palestinians?"

      I doubt it, but in a country with Israel's history, and the popularity of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef - 850,000 in attendance for his funeral - there's a fairly solid case to be made that there is genocidal intent among the Israeli jewish population:

      It was his comments about non-Jews that were the ugliest. In 2010 he said of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and the people he leads that "all these evil people should perish from this world. God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians."

      On Arabs in general, he said in 2001, "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable." In 2009 he said of Muslims "their religion is as ugly as they are."

      CS Monitor: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, in his own words

      Of course Walter Schimmerling does not make a fact-based argument in his letter, not that the NYT has any particular attachment to facts when it comes to Israel.

  • BDS' big night: Loyola student government passes divestment, U. Mich votes it down
    • Mayhem - since you believe that Palestinians have unreasonable demands can you please name one genuine concession Israel has ever made in any negotiation since Oslo?

      I've been asking for several years now and no zionist has ever been able to name one. Conversely Palestinians give one concession after another and Israel keeps raising the bar and asking for more.

      So can you name one Israeli concession, are you THE ONE???

    • The school has already disclaimed it, and has said that they will not follow it even if the President of the student body does not veto it.

      Source?

    • You don't get it do you?

      Just like BDS in South Africa we will be "defeated" for many years to come and have many victories along the way. The net result is that people increasingly support BDS around the globe, and we will achieve our goals.

      Because BDS is a genuine grassroots movement - we do not have rich benefactors and paid-for senators and congresspeople who are disloyal to the US - events such as those at U Michigan are as a much about education and raising consciousness as the actual divestment. Invariably, and this takes some time, when honest and decent people engage with the issues of I/P they come to sympathise with Palestinians.

      What's your excuse?

  • Always looking for your Mondoweiss fix? Follow us on Facebook, Twitter & our new and improved newsletter
  • OSU group questions campus presentation of an Israeli soldier as a 'feminist role model'
    • No, BDS supporters and other Jew Haters use the myth of IDF created suffering to distract from the horrendous way they treat women in their own community.

      Nakba denial is a banning offence here Shuki. Nobody should have to put up with your hate speech. That the IDF has "created suffering" is incontestable.

      By way of demonstration:

      No, zionists and other Palestinian haters use the myth of nazis creating jewish suffering as a way of distracting from the way they treat Palestinians.

      This is obvious holocaust denial, also a banning offence.

  • Avigdor Lieberman claims transferring Palestinian citizens is perfectly legal
    • Thanks talknic sorry I misread you - thought you were saying Lieberman was admitting the territory in the Triangle wasn't Israeli...

    • What is GLARINGLY OBVIOUS in Lieberman spouting his vile ‘plan’ is the fact that he is admitting the territory where these settlement blocks are, IS NOT YET ISRAELI!

      Talknic how is Lieberman explicitly admitting this? I think I missed something.

  • U of Michigan student gov't meets tonight, amid anticipation of divestment vote
    • The school administration has an obligation to protect all students, to keep them in a safe environment, and, in the case of Jews, there is no reason why a Jewish student should be forced to endure calls for Intifida, which, if you don’t know, means the murder of innocent Israelis.

      CAMERA's Arabic translators don't seem to understand Arabic.

      I wonder if Slomich can tell me the Hebrew for "the murder of innocent Palestinians"? Shalom?

    • I only caught the last few hours Walid but I did hear the guy saying he'd been at home for a week.

      I was surprised the BDS team weren't onto that a little more, although who knows what had happened behind the scenes.

      I would have been asking for names and email addresses and twitter handles and anything else relevant and reporting it to the Police - also investigating each and every incident as much as possible - in fact they can still do that now - BDS will surely resurface at U Michigan later. I'll eat my hat if any threats came from genuine BDS'ers.

      Hi my name is Fred and I support the non-violent civil society-led BDS Movement supporting human rights for Palestinians and if you don't support us we'll kill you!

      It just does not add up.

      I agree they were well organised. Why is it I'm reminded of the jewish uni student who was graffiting her own door with swastikas?

    • This is how it is going to be, the stronger, more influential side, will always win.

      True - each day BDS gets a little stronger and every other week a new organisation signs on for the cause. So it is only a matter of time, and we will be the stronger side.

      We need only tell the truth, whether we win or lose on the day it is an exercise in raising consciousness about Palestine, and from there the facts speak for themselves. BDS is a bit of a slow burn issue, after today hundreds, possibly thousands of students a U Michigan might pay a little extra attention to news about Israel / Palestine. From there, the facts speak for themselves...

    • The divestment meeting just finished, I watched the last few hours of the livestream. The motion to investigate further UM's investment in complicit companies did not pass:

      9- Yes
      25- No
      5- Abstained

      The vote was unusually by secret ballot as there were anonymous threats made against the student teams by supposed pro-BDS people. I find that hard to believe, wouldn't put it past zionists to do some false-flag activities to try and discredit BDS. I guess that kind of thing would be effective, but only in the short term...

  • D.C. scribes party with red wine, vinyl, and image of a terrorist
  • 'NYT Book Review' owes readers an apology for printing blatant racism about Palestinians
  • US Jewish leaders blast Harvard students on pro-Israel trip for taking photo at Arafat's tomb (Update)
    • Seems to me that you need to look in the mirror, because you are what you condemn.

      Visiting Arafat's tomb (or not) is unrelated to BDS.

      As for looking in the mirror:

      link to indymedia.org.uk

    • I am 100 percent convinced that these students will come back, able to articulate why Israel is critical as an American ally...

      I wonder if Gideon Argov can tell me when Israel became a formal US ally, ie. a mutual defence treaty signed by both parties.

      I wonder if Argov can also tell me that last (or even the first) time the IDF fought alongside US soldiers. That's what allies do you know.

      I hear this more and more lately, how Israel is such an important US ally - except they aren't, at all.

  • Is the U.S. quietly imposing travel sanctions on Israeli officials?
    • And just a few moments after [my emphasis]:

      The Department of Homeland Security and State remain concerned with the unequal treatment that Palestinian Americans and other Americans of Middle Eastern origin experience at Israel’s border and checkpoints, and reciprocity is the most basic condition of the Visa Waiver Program.

      Sound like Israelis won't be getting visa-free entry to the US any time soon.

  • 'Nobody knew where I was, nobody… I was simply disappeared': An Italian tourist's Ben Gurion nightmare
    • Mayhem -

      That’s what these talks going on at the moment are about.

      Naftush -

      Those questions become pertinent if and when a sovereign Palestine is negotiated and the conflict brought to an end. Not before.

      Rubbish from both of you _ and NormanF can't even find a response. Israel elected to join the UN voluntarily and was accepted into the UN on the basis they would abide by it's charter and treaties.

      Palestine exists NOW and Israel is commenting multiple war crimes with the ongoing occupation.

      Palestinian human rights exist NOW and Israel is in breach of them in multiple instances.

      I repeat: why are Israelis in Palestine violating Palestine’s territorial integrity?
      And I add - what's wrong you both that you do not object to war crimes and human rights violations on an obscene scale?

      The zionist interpretation of Never Again: 'Never Again For Jews Only' is an abomination and stain on the memory of all those who perished in the holocaust.

    • Every country has the right to control its borders and to refuse entry to any one without having to give a reason.

      On that basis, how do you justify Palestine not having control of it's borders?

      Why don't Palestinians get to decide who to refuse entry to – why are Israelis in Palestine violating Palestine's territorial integrity?

      Why Norman – we all want to know – where is sovereignty for Palestinians?

  • Kerry isn't satisfied by Israeli minister's non-apology for calling Obama a wimp
    • Big man this Moshe Ya’alon eh? He doesn't seem to realise just how bad he's making Israel look.

      The piss-ant nation should learn to fight it's own wars, not expect big brother to step in. That means that you don't bite off more than you can chew, you moderate your behaviour to maintain harmonious relations with your neighbours - something Israel seems pathologically unable to do.

      Ya’alon's goading is right out of the schoolyard.

  • Now the US is trying to 'delegitimize' Israel's defense minister
    • I am not sure if “fake Objectivist” works anymore.

      What do you mean Leander?

      I know Objectivists are useless on US foreign policy - unlike libertarians. AR's rationale for Israel, and colonialism in general, is that it is OK because the land and resources weren't being used 'productively' in the first place - a complete contradiction of everything she ever had to say about property rights...

      My point about Geller is that she is not an Objectivist - but merely markets herself as one to appeal to a conservative audience. She's not even a crappy or part-time Objectivist, it's 100% fake, PR only.

    • PS. pssssst hey bazari want to buy some guns or tanks or cannons or missiles or planes or drones or uranium...?

    • Statements like that are an insult to those of us around the world who live in countries that are REAL allies of the US, ie. those with mutual defence treaties with the US.

      Israel is a parasite, not an ally. They take only.

    • When you have some time Krauss look up her archives on the web site of the settler rag Arutz Sheva (Israel National News). She really is batshit crazy, hated even Bush because he wasn't subservient enough to zionists.

      Philip is right about her trashiness - check out the video she posted of herself swimming in a bikini while visiting Israel, trying to sex it up. She has her paws on old conservative men all the time in photos. Actually I find her fascinating and revolting, like a car crash - hard to look away. Sex has nothing to do with it, I'm gay.

      Geller is a fake Objectivist who markets herself as a disciple of Ayn Rand but knows hardly anything about her. It's actually very odd. The only thing I can come up with is that, based on her Arutz Sheva articles, she is a zionist extremist who will do whatever she can to push her agenda, and that includes promoting islamophobia, sloppy kissing old men and sexing it up wherever she can, and pretending to be an Objectivist to increase her appeal to conservatives. Ugh. And stupid old white men fall for it.

  • Ululating at Vassar: the Israel/Palestine conflict comes to America
  • In Abbas meeting, Obama dropped formula about recognizing Israel as Jewish state
    • Crickets.

      I guess Mike_Konrad isn't THE ONE and my quest will continue.

      Sibiriak ~ of course that's the Israeli perspective but it is not based in reality or law. That's the concession I'm looking for from Israel – and there has never been one that I can find or that any zionist will even claim.

      It totally destroys the "no partner for peace" and "generous offer" hasbara.

    • Neither side will make enough fundamental concessions for the other side to agree.

      Sorry, neither side...?

      Please name any concession Israel has made ever in any negotiation since Oslo.

      I've been asking zionists this question for years now and they can't seem to name any.

      Are you are THE ONE Mike???

    • I hadn't heard that before Les - so true.

      Elimination is a lot closer to genocide than exploitation. Factor in that zionists are brainwashed enough to feel as though they are the victims and it's a truly dangerous situation.

  • Netanyahu's map of 'Israel' annexes West Bank, leaves out Gaza
    • They’ve helped on intelligence operations as well as in Gaza and Egypt with Al-Qaeda.

      1. Too vague to be meaningful
      2. Sounds like Israel acting in it's own interest, not that of the US.

      Their forces were active in Kurdistan during our Iraq occupation.

      3. New information to me - evidence of ex-IDF militias in Kurdish Iraq but the IDF didn't deploy there that I'm aware of. Proof?
      Israel conspicuously absent from list of multinational forces:
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      They provide additional translations services for NSA when we run short of Arabic speakers with security clearance to help in the war against Al-Qaeda.

      4. Let the bottom of the barrel scraping commence!

      They are right now working with the MEK so we have a domestic operations base if we need to invade Iran.

      5. Hardly something to brag about, association with a bizarre terror cult. On the other hand that's an apt description of many zionists -I see the match.
      BTW have you not noticed destroying Iran is a long term Israeli project, not a US one...?

      Moreover on Iran they sabotaged their reactors and assassinated their scientists.

      6. Again, Israel's interest, not the US. Thirty years now Iranians have been 6-12 months from acquiring nuclear weapons according to Israel.

      They have been helping the USA contain the spread of chemical weapons to Hezbollah from Syria. And they have fought Hezbollah, which after all killed hundreds of Americans.

      7. Israeli interests, not the US.
      8. Interesting since Hezbollah didn't exist in 1983. Of course the US marines would not have been in Lebanon if it weren't for Israel's invasion and terrible behaviour there.

      Really the same applies for the whole frigging GWOT - a neocon concoction designed to serve Israel at America's expense. Let's also recall also the 9/11 Commission named Israel's treatment of Palestinians as one of three major factors motivating the 19 hijackers.

      And let’s not even get into the cold war where they were an ally against Russia.

      9. OK we won't go there - except to observe Egypt for example did not tilt to Russia until the US (siding with Israel) stiffed it on weapons - to fend off Repeated aggression.

      Going back a few decades they were active in our wars in Latin America. Israel has armed and trained right-wing groups and regimes in Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Chile, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, and Venezuela.

      10. Well that's really something to be proud of isn't it?

      It's a pretty flimsy response JeffB - you might arouse some US right wing nutjobs but a normal person is going to shrug and walk away. Very little value to be had in Israel, just constant mess to clean up, wasting US money and lives.

      So much for you claiming to be a "mainstream democrat".

    • Which means that Israel will take bribes from the United States to serve USA interests as long as the bribes are large enough.

      What "USA interests" is Israel serving? They are not an ally of the US, despite US politicians falling on their knees left right and centre.

      As far as I can see Israel is a ball and chain for the US - also one of the 3 motivating factors of the 9/11 hijackers, as per the official commission report.

      Looks like a one way street.

  • Video: SodaScream -- Bubble trouble
  • Presbyterians on Israel lobby junket visit SodaStream but fail to see life under occupation
    • That would mean exactly what the author wrote and which you chose to omit from your quote, for obvious reasons:

      ...Sustainers of an illegal, ridiculously prolonged, intensely humiliating, unapologetically brutal, and morally bankrupt occupation of another people.

      If you have any proof BDS is boycotting jews, bring it.

    • I don't think that BDS will put SodaStream out of business, not even in 10 or 20 years when BDS is much stronger, but it will hurt the bottom line for sure.

      The CEO states he wants to help his Palestinian employees and won't close the settlement factory because of that. Crocodile tears, of course.

      If he genuinely wants to help his employees he should sell the factory to a Palestinian and then use them as a SodaStream supplier. Since the plant is in an Israeli settlement industrial zone it really would promote co-existence!

      Also, while selling the plant wouldn't remove Sodastream from BDS' radar it would satisfy the limited-BDS crowd who only want to boycott settlement produce.

      This plan of action should be mentioned every time we hear the silly hasbara about the only options being to keep the factory as-is or have 500 Palestinians lose their great jobs. There are other options...

  • Ohio State says boycott would 'limit human potential' (What about Palestinians'?)
    • You're welcome.

      I hope my comment didn't come across as snarky, it wasn't meant that way :-)

    • Because they do not hold actual citizenship, have no state, and hence no passports,

      This is wrong, Palestinians do have a state - though obviously they don't have sovereignty, and AFAIK the PA also issues Palestinian passports. It is the occupying regime that severely curtails Palestinian movement, not a lack of passports.

  • Detained, Deported, but not Deterred: Report from CodePink's Int'l Women's Day delegation to Gaza
    • You disgust me.

      Ordinary Germans citizens could reasonably claim they didn't know about the true nature of the terrible crimes committed against minorities by the Nazis. No internet, no twitter, facebook, instagram, no cheap digital still & video cameras, no smartphones, no blogs, no citizen journalism - the flow of information was tiny.

      And Germany has recovered and worked hard and now consistently rates in the top few most admired nations in the world; a spectacular comeback.

      I don't think Israel will fare so well. It is unrepentant, and zionists, like DaBakr and so many others are absolutely aware of the awful things Israel has done and is doing, and they deny or misdirect or fake sympathy and sometimes even celebrate these atrocities. Disgusting.

      They will never be able to claim "we didn't know what was really happening."

      Gaza in reality in 2014, as told by Harriet Sherwood:

      "This is what we have come to. We wake up in the night worrying about small things: cooking gas, the next power cut, how to find fuel for the car," he said dejectedly. "We no longer care about the big things, the important things, the future – we just try to get through each day."

      The people of Gaza are reeling from a series of blows that have led some analysts to say that it is facing its worst crisis for more than six years, putting its 1.7 million inhabitants under intense material and psychological pressure. Israel's continued blockade has been exacerbated by mounting hostility to Gaza's Hamas government from the military regime in Cairo, which sees it as an extension of Egypt's deposed Muslim Brotherhood. The Egyptians have virtually cut off access to and from Gaza, and as a result Hamas is facing crippling financial problems and a new political isolation.

      Power cuts, fuel shortages, price rises, job losses, Israeli air strikes, untreated sewage in the streets and the sea, internal political repression, the near-impossibility of leaving, the lack of hope or horizon – these have chipped away at the resilience and fortitude of Gazans, crushing their spirit.
      ...
      The UN recently warned that Gaza was rapidly becoming uninhabitable. But this is not as a result of a natural disaster – an earthquake, say, or a typhoon – but of destruction, de-development, suffocation and isolation caused by the deliberate policies of Israel and Egypt, with significant contributory factors from both Hamas and Fatah. And the material and psychological siege of Gaza has profound consequences not just for the population, but also for regional security.

      Goodbye Gaza: our correspondent reflects on her time in the Middle East

Showing comments 5006 - 5001
Page:

Comments are closed.