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After consulting with reliable sources, I must correct my own estimate of jewish deaths in Hungary.
During 1941 the country had approximately 11 million inhabitants, 2-3% of them jews, meaning there were only 200,000-300,000 jews living there.
Since at least 50% of the deportees returned after the war, the real number of perished must be around 150,000 maximum, as not all were deported and many had the chance to skip the country.
Not a pretty picture, but the 800,000 is a greatly overblown number, only a fraction of it lived in Hungary.
Today about 200,000 jews live in Budapest, the city has the second largest synagoge in the world after NYC, the only school for rabbies in eastern Europe.
The big problems are caused by the israeli businessmen, they buy up everything, including the land, causing huge price increases.
Although the laws prohibit foreigners to buy farm land in Hungary, they use many illegal ways to do it.
Example: older hungarian couples get the money to buy it and in their testament they leave it to an israeli business.
No wonder the Jobbik party has such a success.
The speech of Peres saying that: "we bought Hungary, we bought Poland, we control the Wall Street" did not help either.
You can find it on YouTube.
American
I think I know more about the situation in Hungary than any other commentators here.
My oldest friend of now since 60 years is a hungarian jew and his parents did return after the infamous act of the SS and the hungarian counterparts.
Above mentioned 800 thousand perished jews are greatly overstated as there were less jews in Hungary during the war years, not all were deported and many have returned. Even hungarian jewish circles estimate, not the zionists, that not even half of the deported perished, therefore the real figure must be between 200 to 300 thousand.
It is still a mass murder.
As far as the Jobbik party goes, they have the same quality as the brownshirts had in Germany, idiots who came to power due to their hate of all foreigners. The country is in a bad financial shape and as always, blame the jews or the gypsies for it. They already killed several gypsies, beating them to death or shooting them.
If that is your idea of upright political party, then I am very sorry for you.
You probably would like the KKK just as much.
As in Hungary, all over in Europe neo-nazi groups are forming, including in Germany, Netherlands and even GB, all blaming the EU for their misery caused by their own politicians.
Europe had now the longest peace period of its long history and the major reason for it is the EU. No more borders, young people can move freely, study in another land and there are many mixed marriages, a good way to cement international relations.
If the EU would collaps, there is a real danger of another major war, the brits are sowing the seeds of discontent.
Big Abe is just doing his job, that is why he gets paid, however he is not right.
In my opinion there is very little anti-semitism in the USA, a bit more in the south than in the better educated north.
However, compared to the hate of muslims, blacks and latinos, it is negligible, as humans always found other humans not to their liking.
All those jewish organisations working to protect and further jewish interests must create a "need" for their survices, and that is what Abe Foxman doing.
Yes, I know, they love us for liberating their countries and hate us for our own liberty!
Now they must learn how it is done in the western world, or are they doing it just as well as how we liberated them?!!
I have listened to the Sibel Edmonds video and found it a bit boring.
It is full of if this, if that, repeating the same again and again. Most of her info is well known, like the war in Georgia, CIA connections, etc., and nothing new.
She probably wanted or had to fill a certain time, however if she kept it to 15 min. it could have been more educational and less repeatious.
When will our nation wake up and realize that we cannot wage endless wars against other nations and in return expect peace, prosperity and their love.
We are upset about the three persons killed on Boylston Street in Boston, however forget that we kill every single day a multiple of them in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
They had enough and will strike back more often.
Other blogs, some with the support of RT and PressTV, insist that the bombing is done by our government forces and those two "innocent, baby faced boys" are just patsies! A whole slew of government haters, FBI and Police despisers, gun totting retardees chime in, the story gets more and more bizarre, even Obama is accused of having part in that False Flag operation.
One must wonder, how can the USA survive, when a great number of its citizens hate every institution, collect arms to fight their own government and refuse to face the truth.
We have sown wind and now reap a huge hurricane, and in my simple opinion this is just a beginning.
Yes, please keep dreaming, even if that day ever arrives it must be in the far future.
I did not expect anything from Obama and it turned out to be the correct feeling.
Our president will spend another almost four years in the WH and his legacy will be limited to being the first black person to hold the highest office we have.
Nothing else.
Excuse me, but I had to run out to puke!
And this traitor is only a heart beat away from becoming the most poerful man on this globe? Obama, watch out for the banana peels, they should not be on the stair in the WH.
Great Lefty
I hope you win the battle and in the long run the war.
Long time no see. (Don´t worry, I am not becoming imbecil, it is just a jargon).
notatall
If you don´t care who is running our country or a section of it, then democracy is just lost on you. Why vote or even follow the political events, if you don´t care about the future of this country and with it goes your future.
That is the greatest problem we have, a great percentage of the citizens just let those politicians in Washington do whatever they wish, without asking them why and reminding them of their promises and obligations to this nation, and only to this nation.
If you don´t care, you may just end up with a system similar what the russians enjoyed for about 70 years long. It is coming, incarceration without charges or trial, detention camps are fully operational, the president can order the murder of a US citizen, etc. It sure sounds familiar if you have an idea how the communists and the nazis took power.
The enemies of this country are not located in the ME, in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but within our own borders.
The country is divided between two parties that really do not care for this nation, but further only their own and their clients´ interests. There is AIPAC and many similar jewish organisation working for the interests of a foreign country and there is the NRA, whose members collect private armouries to fight their own government under the disguise of the 2d Amendment.
When finally a decent person is nominated for a high post in the government, he or she will be attacked from left and right, practically taken apart and everything is done to stop the nomination.
How can a country as large as the USA, or as matter of fact any country, be governed, when the citizens do not trust their own government, refuse to pay taxes to cover the cost of running it and arm themselves to fight said government?
To be honest, one must be out of his or her mind to covet any position in our government, there are more lucrativ and fullfilling positions to have.
If I was Senator Hagel I would just say thank you, but no thank you!
When Ms. Albright says that the million iraqi deaths were OK with her to destroy Saddam Hussein, what are only nine lives worth to our leaders in Washington?
Just a little colletoral damage.
It is known that all intelligence services like to hide their agents in sport teams, as journalists or as members of charity organisations. No wonder that they are coming under fire.
In other words, nice american citizens who doesn´t care about anyone else or the nation, but solely for themselves.
No wonder the country is so strong and politically undivided!
Avi
Great idea, but waste of time.
GB is broke like most of the western world, there is very little to hope for. However, a world court decision would carry immense political values.
If I build a house on the property of another without his permission, legally that house will be his.
With this in mind, all illegal settlements built in East Jerusalem and on the WB will be the property of the palestinian state, without paying any compensation or landswap. The israelis, I mean all of them, take the settlers and go back behind the 1967 lines. Even that is generous as the UN in 1948 gave them much less, all other territories are stolen.
How will they do it? It is their problem, their military budget will finance it.
libra
" I think german could be the new english".
I seriously doubt that.
English is an easily learned language, very simple grammatic and sentence struckture, you can express something with a few words.
On the other hand, german is very complicated, difficult grammatic.
To think that english is really a germanic language, the german tribes of angels and sachsens conquered the island sometimes in the 6th century and stayed to rule ever since. Now called anglo-saxons.
Klaus
That is a very naive interpretation of the english trend in Germany.
You wrote germans will not buy german made products.
Now, I live in Germany and all our german friends speak fluent english and many even a third or fourth one, as I do, so most germans buyers understand enough english to know what they are buying.
Those who visit Douglas or buy a product from Wolfskin, do not do it because they think it is not german made, but because the price or the quality of the product.
English is the international language and if you want to be successful all over the world you must have an easily recoignisable name, that is the reason why the many products with english names.
With Bloemker cosmetic you would have hell of a hard time!!
Once you are successful the name doesn´t make much difference, look at Volkswagen, Mercedes and many other quality german products.
I have read many of your comments and you have a tendency to knock anything german. Why, you are one of them, or not?
In the christian world most names are jewish and come mostly from the Bible.
John, Josepf, Mark, Matthias, Mary, Marion, Susan, Peter, Paul, Samuel,
David, Lea, etc., all originate from hebrew names.
The christian church did a good job.
Now, Klaus, where did you get that idea about german buyers?
Hana
It is such a pleasure to read your lines, even if the quotes about Allah shows that your people still strongly believes in that all mighty who will eventually reward the good ones and punishes the bad ones.
It is sad, but the world doesn´t work that way, nobody really cares if you are hungry, if your home will be destroyed or your people enslaved, not even Allah. You must be angry, real angry and forget about Allah and fight for your rights.
You are many and as an european proverb says: hundred geese can kill a pig.
The list is growing and is useless. Netanjahu can ignore all of them, only a massive force can remove him and his compatriots from power and bring a change in Palestina.
The question is: will any of the above mentioned nations have the guts to follow up with deeds if diplomacy doesn´t work? I doubt it, I am used of the hot air politicians blow, aspecially before elections.
Better said, Hillary is the best immoral vaccuous politician money can buy.
Same words in a different order.
When the day of reconning comes, and it must come sooner or later, her name must be included in the list of worst war criminals, next to her hobby.
To think that I once admired Bill?!
Susan Rice must have felt very lonely after the vote, the USA, Canada and Israel and a few island states, who were bought with the present form of glass beads, on one side, and the whole world on the other.
Are our leaders in Washington asleep not noticing we are getting more and more isolated, all because of our stand on Israel.
Did Israel, the jewish organisations and their friends in the US government really think they can fool the palestinians and the whole world by sticking to their line of: only negotiations between the two parties can decide the future of Palestine?
What negotiations? Israel is annexing more and more of the land of palestinians, uses every opportunity to punish them for not liking the occupation, etc.
As far as Livni goes, she has a lot of blood on her hands from the Cast Lead massacre and one of the first steps by the palestinians should be to join the ICC and file charges against all zionist war criminals, including Livni.
What use is to have your state recoignised, but have nothing to say and let the occupiers run the country, take your land, jail and kill your citizens and demean you every single day.
Abbas finally, after 45 years, took the first step toward freedom, I certainly hope he will not wait that long to move again.
Thank you, Ari, for correcting the many false statements in the video before I did it. It seems most commentators to MW just love it, however it is nothing, but a soft version of hasbarah, twisting truth to fit the situation.
During the cold war I have seen many such mind benders.
Bravo to Sara Roy and the Boston Globe, you just reenstated my belief in the people of Boston. Please keep it up, bring the truth, at last.
And another honest human being sold her soul for that mighty green stuff.
Walid
Every link of the chain that ties you up is guilty of oppression!!
In my opinion every publicly traded company should release its tax returns, that means GE, too.
Just how much income tax did the company pay in the USA after making billions in profit?
Sometimes a succes is not measured by winning or loosing, but how good was the game.
The french liberated Paris themselves, blew up trains, bridges, stole a great part of their weapons from the occupying forces and many died fighting the nazis. The french honor them, not the ones who layed low and waited for others to free them.
The jews in Warsaw did not go to the slaughterhouse like cattle, but put up a great fight, considering their means.
The hungarians teached the soviets a lession and Hungary was the first communist country with private business and the people able to travel to the west. After 1956 the soviets had to loosen the grip on that land.
It may not mean much to you, however waiting for a sunny day in Palestina is not the way to freedom. They are dying every day, might as well take a few IDF lads with them. I personally would rather get shot when I fire a kalashnikov at the IDF, not by throwing stones!
Year after year all we see palestinian children throwing rocks at armoured israeli vehicles, a useless act to risk your life.
Someone should tell them how did the french resistance get weapons, not forgetting the russian, greek and yugoslavian partisans and the jews in the Warshaw ghetto. They did not throw stones, but handgranades, and used weapons taken from the enemy to fight them and kill them.
Or how did the hungarians during the 1956 uprising against the soviet occupation use mostly molotov cocktails and captured weapons to destroy around 200 tanks and other armoured vehicles and drove the soviet army out of the country.
Israel, France and GB used this preoccupation of the soviets to attack the Suez Canal, allowing the soviets to come back with a fresh and much larger army to crash the uprising.
Palestinians, learn from history, other did better than you do.
Woody
I agree, not a smart example to toute on today´s standards, nevertheless at that time it was something unheard of, kicking an occupying colonist superpower out and declaring equal rights for some, if not all.
The idea and name of democracy comes from the greeks and they did not have a pure one either, as only people with property had full rights and they also had slaves.
By splitting hair we shall find that there is no, and never was, such thing as democracy on this globe!
citizen
I think you misunderstood what I tried to say, most people who take up arms and fight for their freedom do not become bloody oppressors and dictators, like the zionists are.
How about Washington and the american revolution? The swiss revolt against the Habsburgs, etc.
piotr
Thanks for correcting the spelling, I usually work with my memory, not a search engine. She was a great lady, regadless her political views.
La Passionata, a lady who fought against Franco during the spanish civil war in 1937, said the following:
"It is better to die on your feet than knee in the dust all your life".
Up to now the palestinians chose the second option, cowaring in the dust, their leaders selling the interests of the nation.
They needed Hamas and the Hisbollah to show them, that the oppressors are also just humans, they can bleed and even die. Once that coma is broken they will not obey anymore, so Israel get ready for some more of the same. The next missiles will hit Tel Aviv regularly, Iron Dome or not.
Four years of Obama with his unfulfilled promises and we still have people who believe in him. Listen to this cute joke.
Little Mike was a naive little child, believing in everything good.
His parents wanted to teach him a lesson that this world is not all good, therefore for Xmas they put a pile of horse manure under the tree, and waited for the reaction.
Instead of indignation, happy sounds were coming from the room, so they went in to see little Mike happily digging in the manure.
Asking: Mike, why are you so happy, all you got is a pile of sh.t?
Mamma, papa, with so much horse sh.t there must be a pony someplace!!!
So friends, keep digging in all the manure Obama shovels in your direction and look for that promise that pleases you. I stopped hoping years ago.
Yes, the good old american custom of never talking about politics or religion, because it inadvertently leads to disagreement and that would destroy the spirit of a holiday. Or even a party.
I prefer good old european discussions just about everything, going on for hours and where all say their opinions without getting into a physical fight, as so common in the USA.
In my simple opinion the Iron Dome provides fake security!
Sure, they can shoot down a missile or two, but what happens if the palestinians fire 200 at once? How many will be intercepted and how many will hit the target?
"upper class individual" ???
Hallo?? Are we in England with its "upper class" snobs?
Or in the USA where we do not have an "upper class" where you are born into?
Better educated, yes, but upper class?
" ....it seems the israelis are more traumatized..."
Bullies, who for a long time terrorize their neighborhood, usually are surprised when they get punched out by a smaller and weaker foe. They always believe noone will ever dare to oppose them, until it happens.
The readers of MW will not be fooled by old Wolfie, however good 80% of americans, ( my estimate ), will believe every word he says and wish Israel good luck with their murderous attacks!!
This is an uphill fight and I certainly can understand those soldiers in Korea who had to storm and conquer Hamburger Hill, three times!! Three times, because their idiotic commander ordered them back twice, so they can attack and die again.
Peres is repeating the same song that the Hamas started shooting for no reason.
What makes me real angry that no reporter, neither american, nor any from other nations, have the guts to bring up that Israel is the one who broke the agreement by first shooting a 12 year old boy, then assissinating the Hamas commander right in the middle of the city, also injuring many!!
Only after that did Hamas open the the fire and let those missiles fly.
Yes, Mooser, however we could go further:
Not the germans, but germans carried out the genocides during WWII. (I cannot remember seeing such a differentiation from the victims)!
Not the turks, but turks murdered 1.5 million armenians.
Not the italians, but italians are the murderous Mafia members.
Not the christians, but christians conquistadores killed a great number of S. American natives.
Not the americans, but americans are bombing and killing millions of asians since WWII.
Etc., etc., etc.
However, such slight differenciation is really hair splitting and are we not as members of a nation, group or religion all guilty?
FreddyV
If you remember he promised the next help convoy will have turkish navy escorts. Not only it did not happen, but Turkey did not allow it to gather and start in Turkey.
Putting the IOF soldiers on trial is a show, just what do you think what will happen to them?
If Turkey would sentence them, puts out an international arrest warrant against and Interpol takes action on it, then I start believing in him, again.
I say again, as years ago I had great hope in him that slowly, but surely evaporated. He remind me of our Obama, great speeches, not action.
Don´t pay too much attention to what Erdogan says, he is just another dishonest politician. Remember his indignation after the killing of 11 of his countrymen and what he did after that? Nothing, the israelis boarded the next convoy, too!
However, we should not forget the government of Israel is doing all that killing, not the jews!!
Yes, its.
Did the Hamas and Hisbollah simultaniously fire hundreds of rockets, then Tel Aviv would be in ashes today.
It is easy to stop a missile or two, but not hundreds.
Great news, however we need a lot more, millions on the streets shouting their anger toward Tel Aviv!!
Watch our fearless leader if he has the guts to speak up against the aggression.
radii
..."there is a public longing......"
Really? Then where is an outcry of a magnitude that can be heard all the way to Washington and Tel Aviv?
In the USA talking about politics have been killed by a stupid custom of "do not talk about politics or religion in a gathering". Where else, with yourself in your bathroom? There are a few blogs, like the MW, that try to educate the masses, however how many americans are even aware of its existance?
The MSM and TV make it sure the public will not be bothered with such miniscule problems like Israel breaking a ceasefire, they killing innocent women and children, coniving in our elections and cyber attacks on Iran. The american empire is very sick and the doctors don´t have the courage to inform it of the severity of illness.
Oh, Obama did talk a lot about many subjects, including fairness in the ME, and he never followed up on those beautifully phrased speeches.
By the way, he really started to stutter when he did not have a written speech in front of him, proving that he is a good actor who can deliver textes written by others, but a shallow man inside.
He was only the lesser evil to choose and if anyone expects from him great deeds during his second term, he fools himself.
He will have an opportunity in this days, Israel is starting another war with the wrenched people in Gaza, killing more and more every day.
Let´s see what our liberal president will do to stop it. With a single massage to Netanyahu he can let the israelis know that they will not be supported by the USA by any means and they better stop their offensive.
One must be naive to expect such a brave act from him, the man who killed more people in Pakistan and expelled more illegals, (1.2 million) during his first term, than Bush did during his full eight years!!
No, pipistro, I do not believe it will take another 70 years if the palestinians finally grow balls!
If at end of Nov. they declare a state in the UN and will not stop again, then the days of apartheid Israel, and with it Eretz Israel, are counted.
After that a quick succession of demanding their rights and freedom must force the UN and its members to take drastic steps against Israel, not the usual soft declarations, that results in a total isolation of that state.
Refugees will be allowed to return and demand their confiscated properties, the settlements in the WB will be turned over to the palestinians, etc. A long and thorny road, but at least moving in the right direction.
seafoid
Times have changed since those years, today the whole world is watching, so colonists cannot do what they once did during the 18th or 19th century!!
Just look at Syria, the rebells number only a fraction of the armed forces, yet they already control a great part of that country. Yes, they have outside support, namely the USA, Europe and Israel, however the palestinians also could have it if they rise.
If you are cought up in a flood and the water is up to your nose, what would you rather do? Start swimming or wait until the flood recedes?
Israel may eventually destroy itsef, however it may take a very long time, too long to wait.
If you want freedom you must fight for it and be ready to die! The palestinians did not decide yet what they want.
Ellen
Just because we also have corruption doesn´t mean it is OK for the PA leaders sell their folk for a few millions in a swiss bank.
Exactly that is what they did, so I really cannot believe they changed until I see it.
Like that guy from Missiouri said, you told me, now show me!
Yes, it is!!
What the french did during 1796, hungarians in 1848 and 1956, the poles and the irish, just to name a few examples!!
Don´t throw stones at armored vehicles, it is useless, throw molotov cocktails and handgranades, get kalashnikovs and use them.
Naturally in such a case they need leaders who can direct a resistance and stand on their sides, who will not be bought, as all PA leaders were during the past 50 years!!
Just look what the jews did during 1946-1949 and do the same, make sure they don´t have a single night of good sleep. They sent their children on the frontline throwing stones, what a brave freedom fighters are they.
Palestinians had 45 years since the 1967 war, also two full generations, to stand firm against the israeli occupation, however no such thing happened.
How can we believe that now they have leaders who are more interested in freeing their land than stuffing their own pockets? What may have been easy years ago, now it is almost impossible due to the hundreds of zionist dwellings in the West Bank.
That leaves only a strong outside international pressure on Israel, but which country would dare to openly charge Israel with criminal deeds?
Both the USA and Europe stuck their collective heads in the sand, newspapers or TV in those countries doesn´t even report an israeli attack on Gaza or just finish it off with 3-4 sentences. On the other hand, such trivial news, like the Pussy Riot affaire in Russia, is reported in full detail.
Krauss
Calling a spade a spade is not a crime and criticising Israel´s brutal occupation is not anti-semitism.
Living in Europe I do not see any "vitriolic anti-semitism" anyplace, as matter of fact less than against turks, blacks, gypsies and moslems in general.
It is time that Europe lives up to its democratic values and speaks up again genocide and apartheid at its borders.
Erin go brah, ( I hope I got it right)!
My sentiments! Anyone, who expects anything different from Obama then what he did during the past four years, is a fool.
Freud said something like this: A nut is who keeps repeating the same procedure and expects a different result each time. (Not exact words, but the same meaning).
We are back to page one, if you criticise Israel you are an anti-semite!!
And I tought we have been doing the same since several years, in one way or another.
Why should Mr. Browne apologise for his remark, he speaks the truth?
Or anyone in this blog, outside diamok or eee, think that what Israel does is a normal human way to do diplomatic business? Daily air attacks on Gaza, highjacking ships on high seas and killing US citizens, (remember the MS Liberty, 34 dead), getting heavily involved in our elections, etc?
Phil and Adam writes: "We believe in free speech...."
In my simple opinion free speech doesn´t mean that I allow only comments that conforms with my ideas, but it means that people can voice their opinion freely, even if it is not to my liking. Once you start curtailing what can be said and what not, you just left the patch of a democratic system of free speech.
Ex israeli minister Shalamit Aloni once said: if we want to put pressure on europeans, we use the Holocaust, against americans the word anti-semitic.
In my opinion MW is moving into a direction where a free exchange of opinions will become impossible, turning into a yes club, where commentators will praise what the others said.
Naturally derogative and vulgare text should be deleted, but I must repeat this true comment I read many years ago: "those who did not learn from history are destined to relieve it again". In other words, if one want to make a point, sometimes he must turn to a historical even, and if we cannot do it anymore them it becomes a useless discussion.
Example: It is well known the Vatican is corrupt, a cesspool of major crimes that includes money laundering for the Mafia, children molesting and even murder.
If you criticise that establishment are you anti-catholic? Doesn´t the Vatican have members of that church all over the world supporting this very corrupt system?
In my opinion it is very similar to the Israel/jewish situation, how are you going to keep apart those two grown together at the hip?
One must walk a very narrow line that has absolutly nothing to do with free speech anymore.
I enjoyed MW for about two years and learned a lot, enjoying many comments. It would be a pity if it turns into a dull, in-line instrument, serving a certain political direction.
In the view of israeli zionists that would put a lid on the idea of Erez Israel, because they would be balanced by a power with the same ability.
It doesn´t make a difference if you have 150 nuclear bombs, as Israel supposedly has, or just one or two, because with just one Israel could be totally destroyed, the rest is just an overkill. You can destroy a city or nation only once.
This is the reason why Israel wants us to stop any irani nuclear activity and are ready to spill a lot of blood to do it. Mostly iranian and american blood, as they like us to do the dirty work for them. See Iraq.
Our politicians took the 30 pieces of silver and will support anything that comes from Tel Aviv or their agents in the USA, AIPAC, etc.
In my opinion a nuclear armed Iran would stop all this little wars in the ME and would bring stability to the region, however not to our taste, as we, the USA, will not have so much to say after that.
Are we willing to curtail our influance in the ME? I seriously doubt it, so get ready for the next round of hostilities.
lysias
Please do not forget, we are the good guys!!
Our own CIA stealing uran and giving it to Israel and all consequent help with their project was to help our best friends. We are good to our friends.
On the other hand, what do those mullahs think, can they insult us by developing their own nuclear program without our permission?
It is just an excuse for a war, just as the attack on our ship Maine in Havanna or the Tomkin incident was. Both were just simple lies, they never happened.
I doubt if Obama controls anything, this whole situation is getting out of hand!! The NWO and the zionists have their people in leading positions and do not bother to inform the president of their doings, never mind asking for his approval.
Boston being my old hometown, this makes me very sad, what happened to that liberal city? George Orwell is greeting us.
If anyone out there have no idea how the soviet system worked, now you have a front seat place to observe the same is done to our nation. Anyone is upset about this? Not really, a few lines in a blog and we go back to our beer or wine.
It should be known that last year the british and omanis trained the nucleus of 1,200 men in Libya, supplied them with plenty of cash and weapons and were smuggled into Syria through Turkey to liberate the land. Their number grew into a small army of about 15,000, all getting the same weapons through Turkey. Financing comes from "private" sources.
We make the same mistakes again and again. We armed the Taliban to fight the russians, later we had to face those same weapons. We armed Saddam Hussein with the same results and now the so called rebels, who really are foreign merceneries coming from all over the ME.
Not to forget the loud roar of laughter, a mouse scared the hell out of a tiger!!
Because we have a very uneducated and ignorant bunch in our government and diplomatic services, that is the reason.
Many times I just have to shake my head on statements voiced by those persons in Washington, realizing they don´t have the faintest idea of the rest of this world outside their golf clubs and favorit cocktail bars.
McEvers´ report remind me of a very similar case about 30 years ago, where a well known reporter from a major newspaper came to Casablanca, Marocco, to investigate certain events in the Rif mountains. We were staying at the same hotel.
He spent several days at the bar, interviewed everyone from the bartender to the doorman, after this inplace investigation he wrote a long report and flew back to the States. The Rif mountains happen to be a few hundred km from Casablanca.
Somehow I have the feeling McEvers never visited those wreched places, but wrote the usual inplace report. Luckily it rains very little in Jordan!!!
Yes, Bibi, however would you like to be called Nini?
Rabbi, I hear you!
Now I hope in the synagogue you say the same and try to open as many jewish eyes as possible, because something must happen in the USA before those zionist war criminals in Israel start another war.
Turkey is moving tanks and planes to the syrian border, we have large number of US special forces in eastern Turkey and Jordan and I am sure they do not plan a picnic with the local population. The invasion of Syria is a forgone conclusion, it is not if, but when.
After that the only state that do not bend to the wishes of the NWO is Iran.
Israel is itching to destroy the last opposition to its absolute hegemony in the ME, and in my opinion regardless who will be the next president the ball already rolling cannot be stopped. This must be the first case in history when a tiny nation has complete control over a superpower, the tail wags the dog.
Does your wish include Israel attacking Iran, what will be a very major screw up, and possibly starting a major ME war that could blossom into a WWIII?
One should always consider the consequences of a wish, it just may come true!
I would like to add, that in my opinion politicians usually NEVER mean what they say, they just mouth off textes of what is expected from them in certain circumstances.
They may say the exact opposit in a few weeks or even days.
This video destroys the zionist claim of jews having the inherent rights to that bloody piece of real estate!
Countless nations and peoples ruled it and the jews played only a minor role. However, the arabs/palestinians live there for thousands of years without interruptions, if we assume they are the biblical philisters already living there when the jews first invaded "their God promised land".
talknic
The only real effective solution could be that an outside force, (a disappointed and highly upset USA or NATO?) will knock a few head together, break a few bones of the zionist bullies, and sends ALL settlers back where they came from, as they are poison for any country.
After that Israel moves bact to the in 1948 declared borders, gives up all its nuclear weapons and a great part of their airforce and armor, because as long as they have them there is always that itching to go and attack and bomb a neighboring city or country.
In return the NATO could station a symbolic force of a few thousand soldiers in Palestina and Israel, acting as trip wires.
If anyone acts outside the rules we send in the turkish special forces with their long knives. During the korean war the communists were scared of them more than our planes.
"Whatever happened to the once good name of Israel"?
The crimes commited by the state of Israel destroyed every little bit of it.
The Mafia was formed during the XIX century to fight foreign occupation in Sicily, at that time they were honest and noble.
Slowly, but surely they became a criminal organisation engulfing a great part of the western world with crimes of all kinds. The zionists did just the same.
"This is not the end of the lobby."
If not, then let´s hope it is the beginning of the end!
We can be now almost assured that Obama will win again and in that case he has a year to make a few adjustments in our relationships with AIPAC and Israel. He missed this in his first term and hopefully he earned the leasson.
Personally I would like to see a few dozen arrests and charges of treason and aspionage, however that hope may be just too much to expect.
Obama was and always will be a puppet of the Wall Street and we all know who reside in those headquarters of financial crime.
Daniel Rich
Anne Frank was a child, full of fear after seeing what was done to jews, Corrie a brave grown-up adult, who was ready to fight for the rights of others.
By the way, do you talk to your mother in this tone?
piotr
Have you ever heard : once in a blue moon?
Figure the meaning of it.
Not to forget an army of alligators and lately, new arrivals of tiger pythons from Asia, that can grow to be 12 feet long and are very hungry.
A place to visit, but not to live.
Living in Europe I can only judge the OM by the many videos I have seen, however to me they are nothing, but childish pranks, without any real aim or organisation.
Similar to college panty parties, let´s have fun.
I know large demonstrations are not common in the USA, therefore they should organize and watch many videos how it is done in Greece, France, Italy, Spain, etc.
Not a few thousands, but many hundreds of thousands must march before they can achieve anything. Such crowds are very difficult to ignore and the policy thinks twice before they get real brutal.
Did anyone asked them how does it feel to be on the receiving end of the deal?
Israelis have no problems with searching anyone and to "debrief" them for a long period if time.
I agree 100% with above.
40 years of cold war never became another WW, because both sides knew that they will be destroyed in case of an attack.
An old saying means: "if you want peace be prepared for a war".
Israel would never dare to attack another moslem nation if Iran had nuclear weapons, so there is only one solution: either allow Iran to have it or Israel must destroy all its own.
In addition, we should ask why it is never ever mentioned that Israel already has 150 or more nuclear weapons and refuses any inspection by the IAEA?
Why don´t the iranians zero in on that subject?
citizen
The lunchpail crowd, at least most of them, doesn´t even know where Iran is located!! Even the more educated ones, college of some kind, have problems with the news of this world, sorting out what it really means.
The high school diploma for everyone, regardless how retarded the student may be, really killed the value of education in the USA.
I would put my money on a high school educated european person anytime when he is having a discussion of world affairs with an average US college degree.
"Nini is the leader of jewish people"
The question arises "are americans with jewish religion, or atheist ex-jews considered to be jewish people?"
Walking down the same road we have catholic people, protestant people, mormon people, moslem people, buddhist people, etc.
Are all those not simply american people as religion do not count as a designation for peoples?
What really bothers me is that constant jewish question, all other nationalities, (and being a jew not even qualifies as a nationality), became americans without any reservations at least after the second generation.
We do not hear that Berlusconi was the leader of the italian people, meaning all italian decendents living in the USA or elsewhere. Hitler, a close brother-in-arms of Nini, both having very similar ideas and methods, never was called a leader of all germans of the world.
If american jews want to survive the fall of Nini, they must distance themselves from him and his ideas. For 200 years no catholic candidate had a chance to become a president, although the pope certainly never would try to corrupt this nation as the zionists do. Now we are under the control of a foreign ideology and political system, and the backleash will come, the longer it takes, the more severe it will be.
Simple laws of physics, action and reaction are equal in strenght.
"They have suicide bombers....."
Yes, they are ready to die for their beliefe, right or wrong.
However, we should not forget the jewish bombers of 1946 and following years, who bombed arab cafes, buses, post offices and even the Hotel David. They did kill thousands of others, but did not die for a cause.
By the way, the son of the most famous bomber, specializing on blowing up buses, is the mayor of Chicago today. If it is good for the goose, why not for the gander?
Nini said: "don´t let these fanatics have nuclear weapons".
Is he talking about the fanatics in Teheran or Tel Aviv, because those in Tel Aviv are much more dangerous and fanatic, have more blood on their hands and their plans are not peaceful co-existence, but Erez Israel. That means more wars, more territories conquered, more displaced persons.
Why do not a single politician or TV presenter in the USA, or as the matter in the whole west, have the guts to voice a question about the nuclear arsenal in Dimona?
In my simple opinion, should Iran have nuclear weapons, it will force peace in the ME, as it insured the same during 40 years of cold war. Israel would stop invading its neighbors and all other beligerent acts, because their superiority is matched by another land.
seanm
Remember, who were in charge in the SU under Stalin, who was nothing but a figurehead, as our recent presidents are?
Those people immigrated to Israel and the USA, brought their knowledge of propaganda with them, set up shop and now run these two countries, in addition to a few more, according to the old recept.
Communist = nazi = zionist, they are just different words for the same cancer in our society, they are all political criminals.
That young woman holding up the sign probably forgot that she is not in Israel, but in the USA, where we have a religious freedom!
If she is jewish, what she probably is, then she must understand that the moslems have the same rights as she has.
There are a lot more synagogues here than mosques, although more moslems live here than jews.
What is a "liberation theologian" and what does he do to qualify for such a designation?
Shmuel
Breaking out the jewish and catholic religion imposed rules takes a strong person, not intimidated by either tribe.
That is a start toward a personal freedom.
You live in Israel, would you go on Sabbath to a restaurant and have a nice dinner of pork chops in an orthodox neighborhood, your lady wearing a miniskirt?
A hundred years ago marrying jewish/catholic took a much greater courage, as both religions forbade such relation. Not to forget the family, the community.
"Does CNN have some hidden agenda?"
Not very hidden, they became spokesmen for israeli/zionist interests, their presentor Wolf came from AIPAC.
Djinn
They were great human beings, not running after any brand of religious superstition. Our world would be a better place if a great majority of us would ignore religious, nationalistic and racist confinements.
People, break your chains imposed on you by those who want to rule your lives.
They are just playing poker and the stakes are huge as Israel will never give up its intention of being the only super bully in the ME.
We destroyed Iraq, the most important enemy of the zionists, Syria is in a shute going down fast, that leaves Iran as a major obstacle.
Turkey is the key and according to the events of the last few weeks they were bought by the western interests. I wonder what did they get for their cooperation against Syria?
" the present administration is seeking to prevent an attack on Iran before the elections at any price...."
Really? All it would take is to tell Netanyahu that we forbid such action and order our military to stand ready to shoot down all israeli planes and missiles, and you can believe me, they would love to get that order.
That is what I call doing something to prevent such attack, Nini has no taste for carrots so let´s use the big stick!!
What happened?
Let´s speculate: Obama got a call from Nini, AIPAC consulted with our President, a zionist think-tank gave an opinion, etc.
What is the difference between politicians in general and the Mafia?
The Mafia are men of honor!!
kalithea,
kali spera, if you have anything to do with Greece.
Never believe a politician, they lie and cheat to get into the congress and to stay a maximum time. It is a goldmine, an easy way to become a millionair.
Ron Paul is in Washington about 26 years now and anyone who could stay that long must be good at telling fairy tales to his/her constituents.
Regardless what Paul says, when in power he would toe the line just as Obama did. Do you remember his promises and speeches? Apply them to Paul and see what becomes of those good intentions.
It is a disgrace how 99% of the population, (I count those jews here who are americans first), allows that a tiny minority dictates the rules and regulations for the whole nation!
There are a lot more italian, german, polish, decendents, what would happen if they demand a special treatment for those nations?
Or if we talk about a religion, a lot more catholics, do they demand a special financial support for the pope? I could continue, however I am sure I made the point. When will this explode in the face of the zionists and Israel firsters?
radkelt
You better have a thick skin when Mooser aims his sarcasm and humor at you. On the other hand, he has a very thin skin.
"AIPAC reviewed several vesrsions of the platform...."
and I presume they approved the one that is best for Israel!!
Reading just this we get an idea who is controlling and running this great superpower, the land of democracy and freedom!!
I seriously doubt any free nation on this globe would allow registerred agents of a foreign power to "review, control and approve" the plans of their president! This alone is most demeaning to our nation.
Europeans are laughing themselves to delirium. Uncle Sam, the giant military power that takes it on himself to police this globe and force nations to adher to its specification of democracy, is really a puppet of a tiny, sleazy and powerhungry little country, (or whatever we may call it), without any ethos.
Is this really the beginning of the end, or just a prologue, and the real bad stuff is coming later?
I would like to add that MW is really fighting zionism and palestinian oppression with one hand tied behind its back.
After all, those zionists are also from the tribe and we should not get carried away with too many critics and too many truths.
Just like the rabbi asks: "is it good for the jews"?
Why in english?
Because they are sending a message to the whole world and in hebrew nobody would understand it.
"The longest journey begins with the first step". chinese proverb
By the way, they say "we shall be back". I would bet on it, this is just a poker game, win a lot, lose a little, then cover your losses.
"CIA considers Israel as the greatest spy threat..."
Now, this could be remedid very easily!
Just fire all double citizens and zionists working with the CIA, NSA, FBI, DoD, State Dept., the WH and other goverment agencies, also think-tanks supporting policy making in Washington.
Investigate and forbid AIPAC, ADL and hundreds of other Israel first zionist organisations. All those who worked against the interests of the USA should be jailed, HS already have nice camps set up for such a case.
Investigate all members of the congress for anti-american activities and jail those who are guilty.
Deport all israeli citizens who are proven to be working for Israel.
Impose compulsory visa on israelis coming to the USA.
Voilá, in a few months we got read 90% of those quislings and double agents, the rest must be found by the FBI.
I second Sibiriak,
either you have a freedom of speech or you don´t have it. If you start selecting what may or may not be said or shown, then who will do the selection?
So you don´t feel too smug:
HS already has several internation camps all over the country, able to take tens of thousands of persons, in case someone tells a joke about a party or politician. Although we are not yet there, however the stage is ready.
This comes from the common values with the zionists, in Israel such camps exist since decades.
Colin
"Free speech was always guaranteed in the SU"......
Really, where did you get this wise information?
Just for your info if you just voiced a joke about the party or one of the big shots you could expect a midnight visit from the secret police and you would end up in a gulag or its counterpart in eastern european countries!!
Usually the family had no information of the whereabout that funny person and if they insisted they were told "if you don´t keep your mouth shut you will end up where he is!"
The quotation is from an actual report from a person who had the pleasure to live in such a paradise and whose brother just vanished after being arrested.
GL
We all know that anything forbidden is more enticing and stays in memory longer. The german law forbidding the nazi salute, the swastica and other symbols will not prevent people from following that route, if they are inclined to be nazis.
I can understand the reason, however we are 67 years and two full generations later, it is time to be more relaxed on the subject.
"A Jew who becomes a Christian cannot be called a Jew"
Both Judaism and Christianity are religions, not a state or nation, therefore the Supreme Court of Israel just confirmed that there is no such thing as jewish state or nation, it is simply a religion.
Members of a state or nation can change their religion, but still stay to be german, french, american or russian, just to name a few.
Only members of a religion lose their status if they join another religion.
sean
I tried to point to the many similarities in several comments, however the moderator deleted it every time.
I like history and those, those who do not understand it must relive it again.
We are in for rough times as soon as the economy dumps, (the question is not if, but when), as the case was in Europe 80 years ago.
seanmcbride
Now you just may have a little understanding how Hitler and his thugs could take over the whole german nation without facing much resistance.
The same is being done to the USA, ultra right hegemonists dictate the direction we go, and the nation just watches and says nothing. They are more interested to know where do you get the best hamburgers, latest Nike shoes or smart phones.
Brainless idiots. The germans paid for it dearly, we will do the same sooner or later.
Keith
You are right, it is nothing, but the old cold war propanganda with the new twist.
The group called Pussy Riot is a bunch of hulligans looking for fame, and to achive that they do the most outrageous things.
We all know about their "show" at the cathedral in Moscow and I wonder what would the MSM write if they did the same in the St. Patrick´s in New York?
They also did a group sex demonstration in a library, where six of them were naked and had live sex to the outrage of spectatorts.
You can see a picture of it in the today´s issue of the Spiegel, the same madonna like woman, who lead the cathedral dance, being naked and getting scre..d doggy style. Shame on our MSM and politicians using this to attack Putin.
This was the very rare case when american tax dollars were used for a good cause!!
Woody
Each nation gets the leaders they deserve. All our presidents were elected, and we will never get a president really elected by the people until we change the voting system to one person = one vote and the elected person must have the majority of 50% + 1 vote the minimum. Our system is out the middle ages when most people could not read or write and the powers be will never change that, because it is not in their interest. A modern system would make it more difficult to cheat, if not impossible.
I personally was not happy with the Carter presidency, however, since he left the WH he did more good than any of our president ever did. In our political enviorment it takes guts to criticise zionism in general and Israel in particular.
Jimmy Carter is an honest man who cares for those who have no power to form their destiny. Hat off to you, Mr. President
Or, like in N.Korea a few years ago, where american journalists, who really worked for an intelligence outfit and illegally crossed a border, must be freed before they start talking. In that case an ex-president will come to bail you out, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of taxpayers´ dollars.
What do you expect from our State Department, it is totally in the hand of the zionist mafia.
Example: go into the Middle East Section responsible for Israel, Lebanon, Syria and all other states in the area, and what do you see: not a single arab, but all jewish employees, israeli flags and pictures all over. I would call it a detached section of the israeli government.
If you want to make sure your book will sell, just fill it with plenty of sex, the more kinky the better it is, and people go apesh.t on it.
She is not out to get the Nobel Prize for literatur, she want to make money, money, money!! Recent bestseller in Europe, coming from England, the Many Shades of Grey, on the edge of being a porno book. People just eat it up.
" I see Oscar Romero, Edward Said and Rachel Corrie rising together".
Please, not again!! Jesus rised, Mohammed rised, just to name two, how many must do it before we stop believing such a nonsense.
Prof. Ellis, you are misusing Rachel for your hasbarah, she would not like it!
Mooser
There is a more powerful way to force Israel, economic isolation, and all those weapons you mentioned are useless against such action.
The US could declare a total embargo on Israel, economic, financial, military and diplomatic. If all nations in the west join the action, in addition others who depend on the friendship of the US, they could suffocate that tiny land within six months, without firering a shot.
I am aware of the fact that embargoes never worked, but only because most nations were against it. We embargo a land, but Russia, China, Germany and many other countries will do a very lucrative business with them. However, Israel has no real important friends outside the USA and if we say no, others will follow. Everything depends on Washington and I know this idea has as much chance as the proverbal snowball in hell.
At this stage talking about a 2SS is equal with discussing how to hatch and egg after it fell and spread all over the floor. Not possible anymore.
That leaves one state, one citizenship, majority rule and the departation, or deportation, of all settlers from the WB.
That means war, because the zionist never relinquish their power and the settlers will certainly fight it out. Only an outside power could impose a peaceful change, that means the USA, however I do not see such action by our government.
First of all, congratulations Prof. Butler on receiving the Adorno Prize and on your work that made possible for you to qualify for it.
In Germany the Jewish Central Committee is up in arm protesting the decision and the reason why you were chosen. In other words the zionists are very upset that a jew have the gulls to critizise Israel and support the BDS against it.
Anything that upsets the JCC make me more than happy, because they do everything to stop any negative news concerning their beloved land, censor just about anything and the politicians kow-tow to their wishes.
I cannot help, but wonder, why don´t they immigrate to that land of milk and honey, because most of them are not even germans, but born in Poland, and other eastern european countries. I wish the germans would grow a spine and tell them to shut up.
All israelis are occupiers and colonists, just as all french were in Algeria and Marocco, all british in India and the half of the world, therefore a BDS should make no difference among persons or institutions. If you are fighting a system, then you must do it with all means, without exceptions.
Prof. Ellis
I suggest you Google the names Bela Kun and Matyas Rákosi to get onto the next page of history, because you seem to be stuck in a single groove and sound like a broken record.
Colin
Your comparision is lame.
After hundreds of years of occupation by austrians, russians, turks and germans, where the official language the language of the occupier was, liberated nations returned to their native language. In private they always spoke that language.
Hebrew on the other hand was not spoken by anyone, accept by a few rabbis, the ashkenazy jews spoke yiddish, german, polish, hungarian, etc.
The introduction of the hebrew means they had to learn a new language, contrary to the other nations who always spoke their old one.
No comparision whatsoever.
Can someone clear up the following for me?
During the time of the roman occupation of Palestina, (yes, they called it Palestina, not Israel or Judea), the jews spoke aramaish, not hebrew anymore.
Where from comes this sudden love for the hebrew languange?
I presume that was not so much for admiring the nazis, but the fear of communists. On the republican side in Spain there were whole brigades of international communists, being supplied with arms by the SU.
That civil war was a proxy fight leading up to WWII.
Mooser
You are absolutly correct!! I tried many times to mention that in Europe the cause of anti-semitism and the eventual jew hunting was just what you are talking about. Jews became effluent, owned great part of economy, banks, etc., yet always considered themselves to be separate, not one of the nation.
Up to now, every time my comment was deleted, it seems it is better to be ignorant, as the Bible so apptly says.
Americans are in great part emmigrated europeans, in other words the same human beings that caused so much havoc in the past.
If jews have arrived in the USA, have money, influence and political clout, is there not the danger of an eventuell repeatation of events if they keep considering themselves a separate group of americans? The majority may consider them as a thorn in the national unity if they see the antics of the AIPAC, ADL, double citizenships and US jews serving in the IDF. Now not being in danger do not guarantee the same for the future if we should have great economic problems. The poor have very little love for the rich, even less for the rich who brag about their good fortune.
Phillip Weiss says:
"... this site for me is about israel palestine."
Sounds good, but may I ask: what Prof. Ellis, with his long tirade of 45 plus articles on jewish past, german quilt, constant reminder "that we jews are better and more intelligent", etc. has to do with your blog?
It bores even Mooser to death and he is such a patient and polite individual.
In other words he is just an average american who will do anything to make a buck!! He must be very depressed when he cashes in that large check every month, after hearing all that critic from left and right.
But don´t worry, when the time comes he will cross the river, just like Beinart is doing right now, to be again on the sunny side of life.
And if thre were no moslems or jews, they sure would find another group of people for their hatred.
Most discusting human beings.
Last time Russia was conquered was by the mongols 800 years ago!!
Let´s hope no smartass in Washington, or Tel Aviv, ever gets the idea to pick on that bear. We can get useful advise from Napolean, the turks and from the germans on what not to do.
With Jill Stein you would just waste your voice, in the USA no third party have even the tiniest chance until we change the whole voting system.
One person = one vote and if no party gets the absolute majority, 50% and 1 vote, then two parties together must form a goverment, as europeans almost aways must do.
Besides, making Dr. Stein the president of the USA is about the same as making Joe the Plummer the president of Goldman Sachs.
Colin
You keep changing the subject, we called that disinformation in the old days.
Good 5o years ago I worked with our military intelligence, a few jobs with NSA, and during 1967 I was at our european headquarters.
Why do you think we did not go and defend or revenge the attack on the SS Liberty? We knew that Israel armed several planes with nuclear bombs and our military commanders were sh.t scared of what they may do. I am sure the washingtonians also had to change their underwear.
That is the reason why we did nothing, we were afraid of any escalation that may give the zionists a reason to send those planes on their way.
Yes, we could have destroyed them on the ground or in the air, possibly causing a major nuclear catastrophe making the whole ME a dead zone for thousands of years. Dayan knew it and judged our response correctly, playing with fire did work for him, his mad dog theory. They may just do it again if the push turns to shove.