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eljay
eljay on June 25, 2019, 1:44 pm

|| wondering jew: … the mullahs in iran do not inspire my hope for the future … ||

Similarly, the Zionists within and without Israel do not inspire my hope for the future.

|| … How long it will take before they are overthrown is not known. … ||

I hear ya. Although some Zionists predict that the regime in Israel will last a Thousand Years! (and maybe even forever).

|| … I was surprised when de Klerk gave south africa to the majority. i was surprised when the berlin wall fell, so i certainly do not know when iran’s mullahs will follow a historical path out of power. … ||

Ditto the Zionists.

Mooser
Mooser on June 25, 2019, 1:29 pm

” Maybe that car parked down the road…”

Much, much more likely they spy on you through your Internet connection.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 25, 2019, 1:28 pm

It’s very convenient to assert that one’s favoured group is «on the side of God». There can be no evidence for that, or even for the existence of «God». And if it were true, it would be «God’s» business. Let «God» impose Her will on Palestine if She so wishes. Humans have no authority to do it for Her.

eljay
eljay on June 25, 2019, 1:25 pm

|| Mooser: “Jon s” will be here soon and explain why Danon’s words (in print, too) are all part of Israel seeking, “Israeli-Palestinian peaceful co-existence.” ||

Like all Zionists, jon s and Danon believe in peace a Zionist “peace” that:
– allows Israel to remain a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”;
– allows Israel to keep as much as possible of what it has stolen, occupied and colonized;
– absolves Israel of its obligations under international law; and
– absolves Israel of responsibility and accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes.

Like all Zionists, when it comes to I-P jon s and Danon are hypocritically opposed to justice, accountability and equality.

jon s won’t have any trouble justifying Danon’s words.

mondonut
mondonut on June 25, 2019, 1:20 pm

@jon s, Are there any Palestinians who support a secular democratic bi-national state?

Nobody of consequence. And not in great numbers. It is not the opinion of any political party or armed militia and not a widespread opinion of the populace.

By and large the “secular democratic bi-national state” formulation is a charade put forth by the anti-Israel crowd (and many, many mondos) to give themselves a veneer of respectability while working to replace Israel with what the Palestinians really have in mind.

Mooser
Mooser on June 25, 2019, 12:53 pm

“could you please give me the gist of the above article?”

Sure, my pleasure. Here it is: Danny Danon sucks.

Mooser
Mooser on June 25, 2019, 12:51 pm

“Jon s” will be here soon and explain why Danon’s words (in print, too) are all part of Israel seeking, “Israeli-Palestinian peaceful co-existence.”

Mooser
Mooser on June 25, 2019, 12:45 pm

” it’s about our very right to exist in any borders at all.” “Jon s”

“Writing in the New York Times, Israeli UN Ambassador says Palestinian surrender and ‘national suicide’ is what is needed for peace.”

Hey Jonny, how about this. When you make an irrevocable commitment to Israel by renouncing your US citizenship, we’ll talk about Israel’s ‘right to exist’
You’re not looking for the right to exist, you think you are entitled to the right to the main chance.

BTW, formed a government yet?

brent
brent on June 25, 2019, 12:38 pm

An excellent overview of the unfolding annexation by deception that has been unfolding. No President has been able to stand up for American National Security Interest nor legitimate Palestinian or Israeli interests.

For sure the next chapter is at hand and for sure it will be influenced by Trump’s intentions. I wonder about the widespread perception they will be a disaster for Palestinians. Seems to me his declaration endless war is bad for America flies in the face of WB annexation, a formula for endless war. He just stood against Bolton, Pompeo and Haskell, so he may stand against Kushner, Greenblatt, and Friedman. He has said he’s open to a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem, indicated a willingness to cut all money if rebuffed by Israel and rejected Netanyahu and AIPAC’s push for bombing Iran, the deep state as well. All positive indications.

He put his giant ego on the line for a “deal of the century”… essentially saying he was working out what no other President could. I suspect he wants to be judged as the GOAT, greatest of all time and will stand up to obstacles, including the Likud. How could he become great if he betrays America’s interest and offends the civilized world?

genesto
genesto on June 25, 2019, 12:24 pm

The incompetent President assigns his even more incompetent son-in-law the task of securing an Israeli/Palestinian peace agreement. It fails miserably. What a surprise!!

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 25, 2019, 12:17 pm

Of course there are. Are there any Zionists who support the same?

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 25, 2019, 12:15 pm

→ The idea that these people might want, or need, freedom from the yoke of oppression, is apparently beyond the scope of the colonialist mind.

Yes, it is. Oppressors often regard their victims as Untermenschen, as subhuman. Examples abound.

There’s no other good way to rationalise one’s oppression of another population without acknowledging one’s own wicknedness. Colonialists usually aren’t prepared to acknowledge that; they prefer to veil their oppression of others as part of an allegedly noble endeavour such as a mission civilisatrice, the Christianisation of the «heathens», or the «redemption» of «a people without a land». They’re doing god’s work, you see. And god is on their side.

Many Zionists insist that the Palestinians do not exist, at least as a nation or an ethnic group. Naturally those Zionists do not see that a people whose very existence they deny requires freedom from the yoke of oppression.

mondonut
mondonut on June 25, 2019, 12:10 pm

@Jasonius Maximus ,They have yet to reach out to or print a single article or official comment directly from Palestinians (not even Saeb Erekat)

Except for that entire May 22 Opinion piece written by Saeb Erekat himself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/opinion/trump-israel-palestinian-peace-plan.html?searchResultPosition=3

yoseeq
yoseeq on June 25, 2019, 11:58 am

could you please give me the gist of the above article in simple english please?

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 25, 2019, 11:55 am

→ this is the guy who waves bibles at the UN Security Council to claim ownership of all of historical Palestine

Let him advance that claim in Yahweh’s courts. By the standards of every human legal system in history (other than that of the Zionist entity), his claim is garbage.

→ Danon writes that the problem with Palestinians is that their “national identity” is about “destroying Israel”.

A better case could be made for the thesis that the Israëlis’ «national identity» is about destroying the Palestinians.

→ the Israeli “natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate in their own sovereign State”

There is no such right, natural or otherwise. If, say, a new island emerged in the middle of the Pacific, beyond any state’s territorial limits, and members «of the Jewish people» were the first to arrive there and assert and defend a claim to the land, they would probably have a right to reserve it for «the Jewish people» only—not because they are Jews, but because they were the first to arrive. But neither Jews nor Palestinians nor any other group has the right to invade others’ land and assert supremacy as the new «masters». Nor is there any abstract «right» to statehood for any population whatsoever.

The Palestinians, by contrast, do have the right—including the natural right—to Palestine.

If «the Jewish people», whatever that means, had the right to a state of its own, surely the same would be true of every other «people»—unless, like Danon, we engage in chauvinist special pleading. Where exactly should the Palestinian state be established? In Mongolia?

→ the Palestine Liberation Organization, a precursor to the Palestinian Authority, states its “mottos” as “national unity, national mobilization, and liberation” and talks about the “basic conflict that exists between the forces of Zionism and of imperialism on the one hand, and the Palestinian Arab people on the other.”

What’s wrong with that? Obviously an organisation dedicated to national liberation is going to promote national liberation. Why shouldn’t it? Various groups of Jews have fought for national liberation at different times and in different places. What were they supposed to do: lie down and commit «suicide»?

→ Palestinian leaders have rejected multiple peace overtures, launched intifadas and wars, and sponsored countless acts of terrorism in adherence to this belief.

The pot calls the kettle black. Only in this case the kettle is white, whereas the pot is indelibly encrusted with soot.

→ The Palestinians have little to lose and everything to gain by putting down the sword and accepting the olive branch.

Olive branch? How many of those are left after the Zionists’ calculated destruction of Palestinians’ olive groves?

The Zionists, armed to the teeth, demand that the Palestinians put down the sword, then act surprised when that demand is rejected.

yoseeq
yoseeq on June 25, 2019, 11:46 am

could you please give me the gist of the above article?

jon s
jon s on June 25, 2019, 11:40 am

LP,
Are there any Palestinians who support a secular democratic bi-national state?

jon s
jon s on June 25, 2019, 11:36 am

LP,
Jews are not invaders in the Jewish historic homeland.
And where did you come up with “Jewish Palestinians ” driven out by Zionists?

Citizen
Citizen on June 25, 2019, 11:31 am

i wish AOC would attack this gaza concentration camp as she is attacking the one on the US southern border. US taxpayers fund both.

jon s
jon s on June 25, 2019, 11:31 am

A commenter like “Liberate Palestine” serves as a reminder as to what those who seek Israeli-Palestinian peaceful co-existence are up against. For the anti-Israel extremists it’s not about the occupation, the settlements, terrorism, human-rights violations or any such issues, it’s about our very right to exist in any borders at all.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 25, 2019, 11:26 am

Correct. Irish immigrants during the nineteenth century were, together with Blacks, at the bottom of US society. See Ignatiev’s book How the Irish Became White.

eljay
eljay on June 25, 2019, 11:22 am

Shorter Danon: I am a hateful and immoral Zionist hypocrite who believes that justice, accountability, equality and respect for international laws and human rights are meaningless where Jewish supremacism is concerned.

Citizen
Citizen on June 25, 2019, 11:17 am

Duh. The most realistic comment on this article is that you will never hear anything like it in the US mainstream media. Hence, now what?

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 25, 2019, 11:15 am

Thanks W-J for the kind words and for your long and thoughtful post (in the wee hours). While I disagree with some of your premises (no surprise there), I won’t belabor you now with a long response.
I would be interested in your take on my novel, THE EXODUS BETRAYAL: A President Confronts Israel. The Kindle on-line version is free today through this Thursday. You don’t need a Kindle as you can download the Kindle app for free on any device: computer, laptop, tablet, or smartphone and read the book on any of those platforrms. It is truly a remarkable product.
https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=16571048011
Again, thanks for the kind words.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 25, 2019, 11:00 am

@Eva, et al

I just received these two very informative opposing audio interviews from my Canadian friend regarding concentration camps in the U.S. They were broadcast yesterday by CBC Radio’s “The Current.”

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-june-24-2019-1.5187271

“Lawyers representing migrant children at the southern U.S. border say the minors are being held without access to necessities like soap or toothpaste, and that many are falling ill in facilities where kids are left to care for kids. We speak to one of the lawyers, as well as a former judge who says the concerns are overblown.”

eljay
eljay on June 25, 2019, 10:49 am

|| jon s: This may disappoint some commenters here but immigration to Israel … has increased in recent years … ||

This will disappoint all Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacists (Zionists) but ~21% of Israelis are not Jewish.  :-(

Jasonius Maximus
Jasonius Maximus on June 25, 2019, 10:44 am

Ambassador Danon’s op-ed was probably one of the most disgusting, racist, and unworthy pieces of state (and media) sanctioned propaganda in recent times. That the NY Times even considered it, let alone printed it ahead of such an important summit, in what can only be a sign of outright support for Israel’s ambitions, shows EXACTLY how biased and utterly one-sided they still are.

They have yet to reach out to or print a single article or official comment directly from Palestinians (not even Saeb Erekat) on their own stance regarding their notable absence from the ENTIRE process so far. Heck, any fucking Palestinian voice right now would go a million miles towards helping Americans better understand their views and struggles at this critical juncture. Instead all we get is pages and pages of one-sided opinion and propaganda every month, from the Oren’s, Danons, Friedmans, Dershowitzes, Stephens, etc. of the world. Even the half arsed attempt to sort of defend the Palestinians are more often than not written by Jewish Americans, through a warped prism of elitist self reflection, hand wringing, anti-Trump or anti-Netanyahu sentiment, and a litany of disclaimers and unwitting and accidental racist stereotypes and tropes of the Palestinian people and leadership. So juicy so, that you are lucky to get a single quote or direct opinion from a single Palestinian, let alone a full sentence on their actual policy or position regarding even a single topic at hand.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 25, 2019, 10:27 am

Meanwhile, under the brutal, murderous boot of their Zionist illegal occupiers, Palestinians’
suffering continues and intensifies:

https://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=12548

“Weekly Report on Israeli Human Rights violations in the occupied Palestinian territories”
June 20/19

EXCERPT:
“Israeli forces continued to use excessive force against the peaceful protesters in the Gaza Strip.

“95 Palestinian civilians, including 34 children, 1 woman and 4 paramedics, were wounded; one of them sustained serious wounds.

“Israeli forces conducted 58 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank and 5 other incursions into Jerusalem.

“51 Palestinian civilians, including 7 children and 1 woman, were arrested in the West Bank.
17 of them, including 6 children, were arrested in occupied Jerusalem.

“Israeli warplanes launched 7 missiles in 3 airstrikes against different targets in the Gaza Strip.

“Israeli forces continued to open fire at the farmers and shepherds in the border areas of the Gaza Strip, but no injuries were reported.

‘Israeli authorities continued their settlement activities in the West Bank.

“Israeli forces demolished 4 dwellings, rendering 33 persons homeless, including 20 children, south of Hebron, and another house in Jericho.

“Israeli forces damaged and confiscated plates and iron arches, north and west of Hebron.
Settlers burnt 42 trees and punctured 22 cars in addition to attacking a farmer and his child.

“Israeli authorities continued to create Jewish majority in occupied East Jerusalem.
The Israeli municipality demolished a residential building in Sho’fat refugee camp and forced 2 brothers to self-demolish their buildings in Silwan.

“The Supreme Court decided to demolish 15 buildings comprised of 120 residential apartments in Sour Baher, claiming they are close to the annexation wall.

“Three Shooting incidents were reported against the fishing boats off Rafah shore in the southern Gaza Strip.

“The Israeli forces imposed a naval blockade on the Gaza Sea, preventing any fishermen from sailing or fishing.

“Israeli forces turned the West Bank into cantons and continued to impose the illegal closure on the Gaza Strip for the 13th consecutive year. Two Palestinian civilians were arrested at military checkpoints in the West Bank.

“Summary:
“Israeli violations of international law and international humanitarian law in the oPt continued during the reporting period (13 – 19 June 2019).

‘Shooting:
“During the reporting period, Israeli forces continued to use lethal force against the participants in the peaceful protests organized within the activities of “Great March of Return and Breaking the Siege” in the Gaza Strip, which witnessed the 61st Friday of the peaceful protests along the eastern and northern border area of the Gaza Strip. In the West Bank, the Israeli forces also used force against civilians who participated in the demonstrations organized against the Israeli incursions into the West Bank cities and villages. In the Gaza Strip, the Israeli forces wounded 95 Palestinian demonstrators, including 34 children, 1 woman and 4 paramedics. In the West Bank, the Israeli forces wounded 4 Palestinian civilians, including a child, during their participation in Kafr Qaddoum weekly protest, northeast of Qalqiliya.

“As part of targeting the Palestinian fishermen in the Gaza Sea, the Israeli forces continued to escalate their attacks against the Palestinian fishermen, indicating an ongoing Israeli policy of targeting fishermen’s livelihoods. During the reporting period, PCHR documented 3 incidents off the western Rafah Shore in the southern Gaza Strip.

“As part of the Israeli airstrikes, on 13 June 2019, Israeli warplanes launched 3 missiles at an agricultural land, east of al-Shokah village, east of Rafah City in the southern Gaza Strip.

“On 14 June 2019, Israeli drones launched 2 missiles at al-Mina military site belonging to the Palestinian armed groups, west of Khan Younis. Minutes later, the Israeli warplanes launched 2 missiles at the same site, causing damage to it. However, no injuries were reported.

“As part of targeting the border areas, on 16 June 2019, Israeli forces opened fire at the agricultural fields, east of ‘Abasan al-Kabirah, east of Khan Youni. No injuries were reported.

“As part of targeting the border areas, on 13 June 2019, Israeli soldiers opened fire at agricultural lands, east of al-Shokah village, east of Rafah City. However, no injuries were reported.

“On 16 June 2019, Israeli forces opened fire at the agricultural fields, east of ‘Abasan al-Kabirah, east of Khan Younis. However, no injuries were reported.

“In the West Bank, Israeli forces wounded 4 civilians, including 1 child, while participating in the Kafr Qaddoum weekly protest, northeast of Qalqiliya, north of the West Bank.

“During the reporting period, Israeli forces conducted at least 58 military incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank and 5 other incursions into Jerusalem and its suburbs. During those incursions, Israeli forces arrested at least 34 Palestinians, including 1 child and 1 woman, in the West Bank while 17 other civilians, including 6 children, were arrested from Jerusalem and its suburbs.

“In the Gaza Strip, on 04 June 2019, Israeli forces moved 100 meters into al-Shokah village, east of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip. They combed lands in front of the Return encampment before redeploying along the border fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel.

“As part of settlement expansion, demolitions and house demolition notices, on 18 June2019, two brothers namely Basel and Hatem al-‘Abbasi self-demolished their residential buildings in ‘Ein al-Lozah neighborhood, in Silwan village, south of occupied East Jerusalem’s Old City, applying the Israeli municipality’s decision, under the pretext of building without a license. Al-‘Abbasi Family clarified that the building is comprised of 2 stories; each of which is around 170 square meters and still under-construction. The family added that they started building it in early May and was preparing to move and live in it.

“On 18 June 2019, an Israeli municipality bulldozer demolished an under-construction building in Sho’afat refugee camp, north of occupied East Jerusalem, after forcing its owner to self-demolish parts of it last week. The 2-story and 300-square-meter building belongs to ‘Emran ‘Alqam and is comprised of 4 residential apartments where ‘Alqam family members were supposed to live.”

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 25, 2019, 10:02 am

Off topic, but bearing in mind “Israel’s” utter dependence (now 71 years) on the U.S. financially and geopolitically, most relevant:

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/06/23/patrick-lawrence-accelerating-imperial-decline/

“Accelerating Imperial Decline” by Patrick Lawrence, Consortium News, June 25/19

“Washington’s foreign policy towards Iran is driven by desperation rather than a reasoned understanding of a world in historically significant flux. That can lead only to a continuing succession of failures.

“The kinetic events of the past week in Washington, Tehran, and the Persian Gulf were nothing if not revealing. President Donald Trump proved the keeper of the peace, warmongers all around him, when he aborted an airborne attack on Iran Thursday evening. The Iranians continue to act with admirable restraint in the face of incessant provocations.

“More such provocations are sure to come. Trump announced over the weekend that he will impose yet another layer of ‘major new sanctions’ against Iran on Monday. After a minor cyber-attack against an Iranian intelligence agency last week, the Pentagon has developed a list of Iranian entities it is considering for a more extensive cyber-war campaign.

“But there are more fundamental truths to derive from the swift escalation of Washington’s hostilities toward Tehran. They come to four. Taken together, they offer a snapshot of an imperial power in accelerating decline.

“Paralyzed Elites
“First, Trump’s determination to avoid pointless new wars of adventure has divided Washington to an extent that is unprecedented at least as far back as the Vietnam debacle. In addition to hawkish factions within the administration and the national security apparatus, an apparent majority on Capitol Hill — liberals as well as Republicans — favors war as the principal instrument of American foreign policy in the Middle East.

“This strongly suggests that Washington’s foreign policy elites are effectively paralyzed — that is, incapable of meeting a new century’s realities with new thinking. Trump’s authorization of last week’s cyberattack and his subsequent promise of new sanctions appear to be attempts to appease the swelling ranks of warmongers pressuring him to approve a military confrontation with Iran. It is to Trump’s credit that he has so far held out against those many who stand against him. It is not clear how long he will be able to do so. There is informed speculation that Trump never approved of the attack he canceled at the last minute Thursday night.

“Crumbling Credibility
“Second, Washington’s ability to impose a self-serving narrative on global events is in the latter stages of collapse. Winning broad acceptance of officially approved accounts of U.S. actions and intentions has been essential to the effective execution of American foreign policy at least since the Cold War’s onset in the late 1940s. This is a dwindling asset, as the cases of Ukraine, Syria, and now Iran attest.

“Washington’s account of events in the Persian Gulf since two cargo vessels were attacked two weeks ago met open resistance within 24 hours, notably from Germany, the European Union, and Japan — all among America’s longstanding allies. The significance here cannot be overstated. If the U.S. can no longer control accepted narratives, its global alliances will progressively weaken. This process is already evident, notably in the increasing tension between Washington and its trans-Atlantic allies.

“Desperation Phase
“Third, in the twilight years of its long pre-eminence, the U.S. has entered what is best described as its desperation phase. Having no need of imaginative thinking or policy innovation for more than seven decades, Washington finds itself incapable of either. Instead, it assumes a perennial posture of resistance as a new, multipolar, and historically inevitable world order emerges. In a word, America now acts as spoiler wherever this new order is emergent.

“This is evident in a variety of contexts. High among these are Western Europe’s densely woven interdependence with Russia, which elaborates continuously despite America’s objections, and the universally shared desire to achieve a lasting peace in Northeast Asia. In the case of Iran, Washington resists the Islamic Republic’s undeniable place as a regional power, incessantly painting a nation dedicated to regional security as a sponsor of terror that is intent — for reasons never explained — on destabilizing its own neighborhood.

“A foreign policy that rests on desperation rather than a reasoned understanding of a world in historically significant flux can lead only to a continuing succession of failures. Should Trump’s many adversaries in Washington prevail in instigating a military confrontation with Iran, the current crisis in the Persian Gulf will take its place among these. The outcome here may be evident in a matter of weeks, if not sooner.

“Isolation
“Finally, there is the question of Washington’s increasing isolation. During the postwar decades the U.S. was ‘alone in the world’ — the phrase of the Italian journalist Luigi Barzini — by virtue of its unchallenged dominance. For better or worse, America led. This has turned upside down since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001: The U.S. is now ever more alone because it repeatedly flinches from the 21st century, effectively refusing to accept that the 20th has passed.

“There has yet to be an open breach between the U.S. and its postwar allies. But it is not difficult to imagine that one lies out in the middle distance — an eventuality that was unthinkable even a decade or so ago. The now-evident trans-Atlantic rift worsened steadily after the Obama administration force-marched the Continent to conform to the sanctions it imposed on Russia after the U.S.–cultivated coup in Ukraine five years ago. Trump widened it very dramatically when he withdrew last year from the 2015 accord governing Iran’s nuclear programs.

“It is lost on no one in Europe that the current crisis in the Persian Gulf is the direct outcome —and maybe the intended outcome — of that reckless decision. Should Washington’s hawkish factions persist in their transparent efforts to provoke a military conflict with Iran, the risk of a break straight down the middle of the Western alliance will draw all the nearer.

“The U.S. remains beyond question the world’s most powerful nation, as is frequently remarked. But hard power is losing its agency: This is among the principal features of our new century. It is important now to distinguish between strong nations and the merely powerful. Most of what the U.S. does abroad has come to demonstrate the opposite of its intent. America is emerging as a powerful but weak nation, its leadership divided and unable to rethink its global position. And a loss of strength is the very essence of a nation in decline.”

Patrick Lawrence: A correspondent abroad for many years, chiefly for the International Herald Tribune.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 25, 2019, 9:38 am

For the record:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/24/trump-peace-plan-middle-east-227209

“Trump’s Peace Plan Is Immoral, Impractical—and Could Blow Up the Middle East”

By AMI AYALON, GILEAD SHER and ORNI PETRUSCHKA, June 24, 2019, Politico Magazine.

“Ami Ayalon is former director of the Israeli security agency Shin Bet.

“Gilead Sher, former chief of staff for Prime Minister Ehud Barak and senior Israeli peace negotiator, heads Israel’s Institute for National Security Studies’ Center for Applied Negotiations.

“Orni Petruschka is a high-tech entrepreneur in Israel. They are co-founders of the Israeli NGO Blue White Future and principals of Molad, an Israeli think tank.
EXCERPT:

“It sounds great on paper: The U.S. administration will hold a ‘peace to prosperity’ economic workshop in Bahrain on June 25 and 26 to jumpstart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Yet scratch the shiny PR surface and you’ll find a dangerously simplistic approach to a complicated situation. Anybody who followed the last 30 years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict understands that President Donald Trump’s announcement of this first step on the way to a deal is all form and no substance: a new name for the same failed idea known as ‘economic peace,’ and before that as ‘a new Middle East.’

“Putting economics first, before a political process, is more than a tactical error, yet another in a long line of failed attempts to advance towards a permanent two-state solution. The Trump administration’s focus on economics—led by Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner—is a strategic mistake that could stymie the negotiations before they begin. If Trump and his team studied history, they would know that placing economics before core political issues is a slap in the face to the Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians want to improve their quality of life; of course they want to build a growing economy. But these are secondary goals, to be pursued after self-determination is achieved. If the Palestinians could be ‘bought’ with economic benefits, we would be long past the need for talks. Trump’s approach is not only immoral, it is impractical.

“The truth is that economics were never enough to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Paris Agreement, which followed the Oslo Accords—a set of agreements between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization signed in the 1990s that were never implemented to the letter—focused on economics, and it did not salvage the deterioration of the security situation that resulted in the second intifada, a bloody 4-year Palestinian revolt against Israel’s occupation of the West Bank. Neither the first nor the second intifadas broke out for economic reasons (the Palestinian economy was not faring badly, relatively speaking). They erupted because the way forward was unclear, and because the Palestinians felt that the economic benefits offered would not lead to the end of the occupation. High hopes for trust-building had been dashed against the absence of a political plan to end the conflict. This void nurtured despair and disappointment, leading to angry uprisings that cost many lives on both sides.

“That is the very real danger we are facing again. By putting economics first while ignoring the end game, Trump is repeating a colossal mistake: resuming talks without defining the end goal. For both Palestinians and Israelis, that goal should be ending the occupation and establishing a Palestinian state alongside Israel within 1967 borders, with necessary land swaps. Unless both parties and the mediating power state this clearly at the outset, the expectations gap will breed mistrust. Thus, sitting down together will be futile. This will lead to further disillusionment—and escalating violence. Unless the goal of the talks is explicitly defined as ending the conflict and establishing a Palestinian state, more lives will be lost.”

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 25, 2019, 8:21 am

Thanks for the link to the Dorothy Thompson piece which I don’t recall seeing before. She is one of my heroes. I wrote a longish article on her in MW a few years back [I can’t figure out how to link to it}. Its title is searchable and well worth a read judging by the 170 comments(said he modestly):
“Obama’s role model to journalists — Dorothy Thompson — turned against Zionism and was silenced:
https://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/journalists-thompson-silenced/

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 25, 2019, 8:00 am

Thanks for the kind review (at least up to page 100), Echinococcus.
“Undownputtable”, I like that turn of phrase.
Interesting to note the total silence so far on MW (40 comments so far) on the part of those who would strongly disagree with the novel’s premise. I think your comment is spot-on as to the motive behind the silence.

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 25, 2019, 7:54 am

Thanks for the kind review (at least up to page 100), Echinococcus.
“Undownputtable”, I like that turn of phrase.
Interesting to note the total silence so far on MW (40 comments so far) on the part of those who would strongly disagree with the novel’s premise. I think your comment is spot-on as to the motive behind the silence.
[THIS COMMENT BELONGS UPSTREAM AFTER ECHINOCOCCUS’S “UNDOWNPUTTABLE” COMMENT].

Citizen
Citizen on June 25, 2019, 7:52 am

RE WaPo’s “The only problem is that almost all the projects, the post says, would require buy-in from Palestinian leaders, who have been vocal in their boycott of American-led peace negotiations.”

Another problem is that almost all those projects also come with Jewish Israeli business folk attached.

Citizen
Citizen on June 25, 2019, 7:28 am

Bingo.

Citizen
Citizen on June 25, 2019, 7:28 am

US crackdown on illegal Irish intensifies in Boston https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/us-crackdown-on-illegal-irish-intensifies-in-boston-1.3322514#.XRIEwT4-vpo.twitter via @IrishTimesWorld

If memory serves, the Irish were just as despised as today’s immigrants from South America when they came in the 19th century.

jon s
jon s on June 25, 2019, 7:17 am

This may disappoint some commenters here but immigration to Israel reached a low point around ten years ago but has increased in recent years:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-immigration-to-israel-by-year
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-immigration-to-israel-up-5-in-2018-1001266944
On the whole the population of Israel is growing nicely and is now over 9 million.

Eva Smagacz
Eva Smagacz on June 25, 2019, 5:57 am

“The similarities to death camps are overwhelming”.

You really do not need death camps on the industrial scale. Israel has one of the highest life expectancy rates in the world, and occupied Palestinians one of the lowest (and dropping precipitously).

Tuyzentfloot
Tuyzentfloot on June 25, 2019, 4:23 am

Indeed, simply based on an analysis of the individual incident one can still conclude it’s a case of self defense. I see it as the early stages of a counteroffensive , and it would be foolish for them not to do so.

Marnie
Marnie on June 25, 2019, 3:16 am

the united states has a history of concentration camps (Fort Sill, where Native Americans were kept, now being used again). the term ‘concentration camp’ isn’t a trademark or brand, it’s something that horrible governments do from time to time. It would show some real maturity for the right to stop arguing about terms that weren’t used by AOC or Ilhan Omar – neither said death camps or holocaust. To continue carping on this subject is the desperate attempt to distract, deflect and dick around.

wondering jew
wondering jew on June 25, 2019, 2:31 am

Irishmoses- good luck on your book!

The reality of Israel making a big splash in US foreign policy is distasteful to me and when I idealize Moshe Sharett’s attempts to reach a peace with Nasser it is with the idea of retroactively cancelling Netanyahu speaking to Congress in 2015 to reject the sitting President Obama’s Iran treaty. With such a glaring reality there seems little need for fiction. and furthermore particularly at this Trump “moment” (may it be ended on January 20, 2021, may it so be His will) with a fictional situation- reality tv star, failed real estate mogul, bullshit artist becomes president, there really is little need for fiction. Our reality is too stark to be served by an imagined situation.

Since I was really into the leftovers on tv, i read Left Behind (only the first book) and it deals with a fictional geopolitical situation that i felt was really extraneous at this moment of time, trump as president, we don’t need no fiction that does not help us deal with the current president.

after 9/11, it now is clear that even something as momentous as that only has the weight of history on its side for a few years and the long wars against afghanistan and iraq are really not a wise undertaking in the forms that they took, in an expectation of prolonged support based upon an event almost 18 years ago.

particularly regarding the war against iraq, and the so called axis of evil, it seems certainly from israel’s point of view that the primary danger on september 12, 2001 was from iran and not from iraq. but the presence of saddam hussein kicked out of kuwait, but still playing games ten years after, plus the fact that he had tried to kill bush’s father, made him the clearest target for the bush administration and the neoconservative movement. any move against iran would have required pressure rather than going to war and the neoconservatives wanted to go to war, so iraq was the most natural target.

it is difficult for me to assess iran’s strategic role vis a vis the west and israel without being biased by my support for israel in the confrontation with hezbollah for example and thus i certainly do not share the general positive attitude one reads in the comments in mw regarding iran’s role in the region. the eruption of the arab spring and its short term failure is a question as well, but the mullahs in iran do not inspire my hope for the future and it is the youth of Tehran that have my empathy rather than the regime of the mullahs. How long it will take before they are overthrown is not known. I was surprised when de Klerk gave south africa to the majority. i was surprised when the berlin wall fell, so i certainly do not know when iran’s mullahs will follow a historical path out of power.

i find the democratic party inner battles regarding zionism interesting and since the democrats have won 6 out of the last 7 popular election votes for the presidency, one figures that eventually the electoral college and eventually even the senate will reflect the will of the american people (unless trump and/or the populism that he reflects will break the democracy) and thus the foreign policy of the democratic party will eventually be the country’s foreign policy and thus the attention being paid by democratic presidential candidates to this issue is quite interesting.

RoHa
RoHa on June 25, 2019, 2:04 am

I will add that “nayward” is appropriate for my attitude towards the quacksalver’s misprised hypodermic syringes.

Rob Roy
Rob Roy on June 24, 2019, 10:46 pm

Sam B, GREAT entry. I suggest you actually mail this out to JK. It’s classic.

Rob Roy
Rob Roy on June 24, 2019, 10:44 pm

At least three and more. I said it the minute I heard the tankers were hit. Israel is obvious. What better ploy to get the US to attack Iran? Trump isn’t Putin’s puppet, he’s Netanyahu’s.

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 24, 2019, 10:42 pm

Again, it depends on how severe Israel’s actions are. Public opinion can be fickle. In any case, you’re foreshadowing part of the plot. I’ll leave it at that.

Rob Roy
Rob Roy on June 24, 2019, 10:26 pm

Ossinev, I think sons of David Brooks, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer all have been in the IDF, but can’t swear to it. Why does the US let this happen (except they are lapdogs for Israel)…can citizens go from one country to another and join that army?

Rob Roy
Rob Roy on June 24, 2019, 10:22 pm

RoHa, absolutely right. I never cared much for Ash Carter but he did say something true: Putin says exactly what he thinks and means exactly what he says. I for one appreciate that. I’ve listened to Putin speak for hours…wish we had a president half that intelligent and clear headed.

Sibiriak
Sibiriak on June 24, 2019, 10:02 pm

Sure.

“This whole experience has been terribly chilling,” Crystall told Mondoweiss. “People are of course afraid of being called racists and anti-Semites, Arab students even more so.”

“It’s going to affect the Palestinian and Arab-American students more than the non-Arab students who are apart of SJP,” she said.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 9:59 pm

That’s true. Then again, a stillborn iguana is far more intelligent, educated, knowledgeable, and sensible than tRump & Cie.

Sibiriak
Sibiriak on June 24, 2019, 9:59 pm

this is my anti-semitic song ” = own goal

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 9:58 pm

Iran has suffered far too much from the Great Satan: the CIA’s overthrow of Mosaddegh, the installation of the hated shah, protracted warfare from the Iraqi cat’s-paw, œconomic warfare ever since (including disruption of international banking and other essential facilities). The people of Iran have excellent reasons to hate the Great Satan. To provoke them further would be worse than foolish.

Kay24
Kay24 on June 24, 2019, 9:45 pm

Aw, it looks like Netanyahu has disappointed those who gave him Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, and supported his candidacy. I cannot imagine Kushner and Trump being in the dark that Israel is not engaged in this great plan for peace. Unless of course it is all part of the grand plan, which the world will be told the Palestinians are not interested in peace, and justify Israel’s annexations of the West Bank, and whatever their greedy hearts desire.

CigarGod
CigarGod on June 24, 2019, 7:47 pm

The similarities to death camps are overwhelming.
Really, the only things missing are gas chambers and ovens.

echinococcus
echinococcus on June 24, 2019, 6:42 pm

Shenfield, you identified much of the problem with submitting to the muscle-head reader: the product is boring. It loses life, originality and power. It also compels the appointment of editors with the same kind of meaty head. Not really worth it.

rwicks
rwicks on June 24, 2019, 6:35 pm

Pshaw. Here let me give you a realistic synopsis if this ever happened.

Hailey Hannagan would be accused of being anti-Semitic by the US “media” endlessly. Televangelists would claim she’s the anti-Christ. Congress would attempt to remove her through the 25th amendment, or whatever.

If that all failed, she’s be assassinated, by somebody. probably on July 20th, and if it were successful, it would be hailed as a good thing that the United States stopped Hitler 2.0.

Anybody seriously doubt this is what would happen?

Eva Smagacz
Eva Smagacz on June 24, 2019, 6:28 pm

No Vera, you are most assuredly NOT the only one.

RoHa
RoHa on June 24, 2019, 6:12 pm

Both good words. We should use them more often.

RoHa
RoHa on June 24, 2019, 6:05 pm

I wrote a short essay on the rectification of names. It might still be in the MW archives, but without a search engine I doubt I will be able to find it.

RoHa
RoHa on June 24, 2019, 6:00 pm

No.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 5:54 pm

The ploy of wrongly labelling opponents «anti-Semitic» has little life left in it. The Zionist smear artists look increasingly like one-trick ponies, good for nothing but shouting «Anti-Semitic!» at anyone who doesn’t submit to their tyranny. Like the boy of the fable who cried «Wolf!» too often, they will find themselves ignored and despised.

Kathleen
Kathleen on June 24, 2019, 4:56 pm

Brooks has the audacity to discuss empathy and compassion. I think he tried to write a book about those human qualities that are absent in his own make up

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/18/opinion/culture-compassion.html Absurd

.
Kushner saying something about teaching people (Palestinians ) “how to fish” is insane. Israel has been restricting Palestinians fishing rights for decades.

irishmoses
irishmoses on June 24, 2019, 4:39 pm

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So let me know where I’ve screwed up.

I particularly want to hear opinions from those on the opposite, pro-Israel side, So far, I’ve had only one such comment (from Wondering Jew) and that was a neutral comment about Leon Uris, the author of the original Exodus novel.

I’m mystified why I haven’t engendered more, either about the interview of me by Phil, or about my novel itself. Hopefully the enticement of a free Kindle copy will loosen their tongues.

gamal
gamal on June 24, 2019, 4:02 pm

“have much to do with the ethnic origins of those kept there…..Am I being misled?”

I remember an old vox populi but still good, it opens with one of the most poignant of Lorde quotes whose day has come apparently, i always knew it as whitewash but no title comes up so who knows, enjoy

https://youtu.be/rdaF_h06YX4

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 3:11 pm

I certainly won’t read the rich dolt’s «plan», which the media, ever faithful to their masters, styled «deal of the century» weeks before it was released.

From what Bahour wrote, I gather that that «plan» has mainly to do with setting up capitalist political infrastructure so that the settler-colonialists and other foreigners can freely exploit Palestinians.

My main criticism of Bahour’s admirable letter has to do with his reference to «52 years of Israeli military occupation». The correct figure is 72.

Mooser
Mooser on June 24, 2019, 3:03 pm

” has much to do with anything except the Democrat leadership has chosen not to fund those basics”

Yeah, you bet, just to make Trump look bad.

Mooser
Mooser on June 24, 2019, 2:58 pm

“I know what it means. It makes little sense in the given context, however.”

Yes, the “given context” is quite important.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 2:52 pm

There are at least two of us.

eljay
eljay on June 24, 2019, 2:51 pm

|| Jackdaw: … Phil. Leave the Jews out of this one. ||

Phil didn’t bring “the Jews” into this one. You and hophmi anti-Semitically did that.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 2:43 pm

→ Iran starts a modest counteroffensive.

Where’s the counteroffensive? Iran defended itself against the US’s invasion of its territory. It had every right to do so. Indeed, it would have been foolish not to do so.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 2:42 pm

→ With rockets, missiles, limpet mines, and now anti-aircraft missiles, Iran has for weeks, been trying to goad the United States into a skirmish,

Are we living on the same planet?

annie
annie on June 24, 2019, 2:04 pm

it must be true RoHa, what a revelation. both of you, thanks so much. and i suppose hops should take a bow too for enlightening us with his rare analysis.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 1:47 pm

They do have something to do with ethnic origin. Notice who ends up in them. Rich Irish people who violate US immigration law—and there are thousands and thousands—don’t arrive at that so-called border; they fly into New York. If they’re caught working under the table, which is very unlikely, they are not sent to those concentration camps.

The Nazi concentration camps had only a limited connection to ethnic origin. The first ones, starting with Dachau in March 1933, were built to oppress communists. It is true that they were later used to oppress Ashkenazi Jews generally, but other ethnic groups were targeted as well, including the Roma and the various Slavic nations.

The term concentration camp entered the vocabulary because of the horrific concentration camps that Britain set up during the Anglo-Boer War. Boers and Africans alike were confined in them.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 1:25 pm

→ I’m pretty sure the children make roughly Arabic-sounding noises, so it should be possible to write their language (the local colloquial) in the Arabic alphabet.

It is possible to write any language (though some of the signed ones present special challenges), in the Arabic alphabet or otherwise. Plenty of languages unrelated to Arabic, including Persian, Malay, Urdu, and Turkish, are or formerly were written in Arabic script. Developing a writing system for Palestinian (or Moroccan, Iraqi, &c) Arabic would be a simple task.

But the various Arabic colloquials are not ordinarily written. As someone mentioned above, sometimes short passages of dialogue are written in an ad hoc way in the midst of text otherwise written in Modern Standard Arabic.

The situation of writing in a language other than the spoken one is known as diglossia, and it is rather common. Not too many centuries ago, many languages of Europe were not written: speakers wrote instead in Latin, Greek, German, or some other language, if they wrote at all. Hebrew was retained for writing long after it ceased to be spoken.

→ And do the Arabic-speaking countries still have many illiterates?

Yes, especially Yemen and some of the Arabic-speaking countries of Africa. Palestine, incidentally, has a relatively high rate of literacy, notwithstanding the Zionist terror.

→ “Nayward” means ‘proceeding towards a negative decision.’ It’s the opposite of “yeaward.”

I know what it means. It makes little sense in the given context, however.

Stephen Shenfield
Stephen Shenfield on June 24, 2019, 1:02 pm

I remember writing an article for a publication and the editor cutting out a satirical section. That upset me but the editor explained that he knew from long experience that satire is likely to be misunderstood, a lot of people will take it seriously and make a fuss.

The particular bit of satire that led to trouble in this case is going to be appreciated by people who already have a ‘feel’ for the Palestinian situation. They will immediately understand that when Nafar says ‘this is my anti-semitic song’ he means the opposite and is actually protesting against it being labeled that way. But when it gets out to people who do not have that ‘feel’ and rely on the dominant discourse about I/P they will interpret it as him acknowledging that he is anti-semitic and making a joke of it. So if it’s in public it’s better (though boring) to keep everything simple and straightforward.

Jasonius Maximus
Jasonius Maximus on June 24, 2019, 12:45 pm

I’m surprised Mr. Kraft is taking time out of his favorite hobby and busy schedule of soliciting forced prostitutes and supporting known sex traffickers, only to attack BDS. With quality folk like Mr. Kraft fighting to prop up Israel’s Apartheid regime, who needs enemies?

genesto
genesto on June 24, 2019, 12:38 pm

The Zionist Neocons have been pushing hard for war with Iran for nearly 30 years now. It is only because of the good sense of the generals, who understand the gravity of such a tragic misadventure, that have saved us from an attack on Iran every time. It was, again, the generals that stepped in the other day to foil the Zionist Neocons Bolton, Pompeo and Haspel, from talking our idiot President into attacking, and starting a war with, Iran now.

I’m deathly afraid we are just one false flag – or, looking a little more into the future, a takeover of our military by the Zionists – from attacking Iran and suffering dearly for what would be the worst foreign policy decision by our country ever!

Citizen
Citizen on June 24, 2019, 11:36 am

She’s impressive.

gamal
gamal on June 24, 2019, 11:24 am

“we need these comparisons to wake us”

Faint hope

Brief History of American Concentration Camps

“Half a century before President Andrew Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act into law in 1830, a young Virginia governor named Thomas Jefferson embraced genocide and ethnic cleansing as solutions to what would later be called the “Indian problem.” In 1780 Jefferson wrote that “if we are to wage a campaign against these Indians, the end proposed should be their extermination, or their removal beyond the lakes of the Illinois River.” However, it wasn’t until Jackson that “emigration depots” were introduced as an integral part of official US Indian removal policy”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/21/a-brief-history-of-us-concentration-camps/

“While some may be offended by the language” which is kind of funny but as LP has brought up the rectification of names one can toy with Mencius vs Xun Zi, in the west we are circumlocuting ourselves to death, but all those ‘problem’ people what are we to do with them? What’s the precedent?

Mooser
Mooser on June 24, 2019, 11:18 am

“According to Jewish mythology, «God» smiled….”

But if you look at the picture, it’s a very sad kind of smile.

Citizen
Citizen on June 24, 2019, 11:18 am

I don’t think the concentration camps along the US southern border have much to do with the ethnic origins of those kept there. And I think the treatment of those there, lacking basic sanitation & human needs, has much to do with anything except the Democrat leadership has chosen not to fund those basics, e.g., toothbrush, diapers, soap, tooth brush, other than a cement bed, a comfortable blanket, not an aluminum one. Am I being misled?

oldgeezer
oldgeezer on June 24, 2019, 11:16 am

@RoHa

Oops! Netherlands. Sentiments remain unchanged.

Somervillein
Somervillein on June 24, 2019, 11:13 am

Thanks for these tips, truth-teller Maguire–and, again, immense thanks for writing this imaginative novel. I DO have the current version of it (Kindle), and the print version is in the mail; but I wondered about the earlier title, which appears on Amazon.com but is “Currently unavailable.” A copy of the terrific new collection of 40 testimonies, “Reclaiming Judaism from Zionism” has interrupted my reading of your novel. I hope you will read it, too. These admirable testimonies give great hope, although today’s Mondoweiss listing of horrible Israeli abuses seem to far outweigh it. Best wishes with your own efforts toward “repair of the world/tikkun olam” !

Mooser
Mooser on June 24, 2019, 11:05 am

“A damsel cannot be nayward.”

“Nayward” means ‘proceeding towards a negative decision.’ It’s the opposite of “yeaward.”

James Canning
James Canning on June 24, 2019, 11:02 am

Bolton and Netanyahu have pressed hard for a reckless US military attack on Iran, and they will continue to do so.

Sulphurdunn
Sulphurdunn on June 24, 2019, 10:55 am

Those who control the definition of terms control the argument.

LiberatePalestine
LiberatePalestine on June 24, 2019, 10:48 am

Attributed to Confucius: «If the terminology is not correct, the discourse will not cohere» (名不正則言不順).

Concentration camp is precisely the correct term for the US’s «detention camps» near its incorrect «border» with Mexico (the true border lies at the southern edge of Idaho), its «internment» facilities for people of Japanese—but not German or Italian—ancestry during World War II, and its «strategic hamlets» in Vietnam. It is also correct to speak of Gaza as a concentration camp, particularly since most of the residents (or their recent ancestors) come from other places.

The enemies are well aware of the power of terminology. That’s why they speak of «Arabs» rather than Palestinians and «the Viet Cong» rather than the National Liberation Front. That’s why they have introduced «scalawag» and «carpetbagger» as «standard» terminology in US history textbooks. That’s why they refer to the Zionist entity as «Israël», by way of equating all of Jewry with the settler-colonial régime occupying Palestine.

It is altogether inappropriate to demand that we tone our language down. A tone that suits the parlour room may be much too subdued in more urgent contexts.

eljay
eljay on June 24, 2019, 10:00 am

… “For years, boycott promoters have disguised themselves as ‘human rights activists,’ managing to raise tens of millions of euros from Western countries and citizens who thought they were contributing to causes supporting justice and equality,” Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan said in a statement. …

Mr. Erdan is right: Everyone – boycott promoters and Zionists included – should actually and actively support justice and equality throughout I-P.

I look forward to Mr. Erdan leading by example.

Vera Gottlieb
Vera Gottlieb on June 24, 2019, 9:59 am

Am I the only one to suspect israel of the attacks on the two oil tankers???

CigarGod
CigarGod on June 24, 2019, 9:51 am

Repeat after Ilhan, class: It’s all about the Benjamin’s.
The more of us who repeat it, the higher the waves that hit the shore.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 24, 2019, 9:39 am

@JWalters

You can bet that Sheldon Adelson and his wife, Miriam, have been constantly phoning and visiting Trump demanding that he carpet bomb Iran in exchange for the well over $100 million they pumped into the Republican’s election coffers.

Ronald Johnson
Ronald Johnson on June 24, 2019, 9:35 am

Watch and see the Amazon reader reviews. It will produce what I call the “two lobe distribution”, heavily weighted at “5” and “1” as the polemicists rush in with aspersions to counter the praises received.

Or, Mr. Bezos may be prevailed upon to display a picture of a charming show dog, with a denial of the book’s availability, when we click upon “BUY NOW”, or “BUYING OPTIONS”.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 24, 2019, 9:29 am

@eljay

BINGO!!

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 24, 2019, 9:27 am

Not on topic, but a good read regarding egotistical, smarmy, soft handed, spoiled rotten rich boy Jared Kushner’s phony “Deal of the Century.”

https://medium.com/@sbahour/an-open-letter-to-my-fellow-american-civil-servant-jared-kushner-e0207cb4b91a

“An Open Letter To My Fellow American, Civil Servant Jared Kushner”

“From one American to another: Get out of the car. Go home.” By Sam Bahour, Medium, June 22/19

“The White House today finally released the much-anticipated economic plan of what the Trump administration has infamously coined ‘the deal of the century.’ This release is being made days before the planned economic workshop called for in Bahrain on June 25 and 26. The Economic Plan is three parts: a website, which has an executive summary, a 40-page narrative of the plan, and a 96-page detailed listing of the programs and projects of Peace to Prosperity. I just read them all.

“I honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry, so instead of doing either, I thought it would be best to share my thoughts by way of the following open letter to Jared Kushner, the architect of the plan, and President Trump’s son-in-law.

“Dear Jared,
“I do hope it’s okay with you that I dropped the salutation formalities. I just read in the Medium an article by Aaron Gell, their contributing editor, titled Jared Kushner Was My Boss, so I really feel I personally know you now, plus, I’ve been writing about you for several months, so let’s be friends. I just read your Peace to Prosperity Economic Plan. I must give it to you. You did it. You produced 136 pages of nothing, in full color and with photos too.

“I read this on my veranda, the one facing the illegal Israeli settlement of Psagot across the valley. Every time I looked up to take a sip of water, I looked at the settlement lights glaring down on me and then looked down to your plan to see where it fits; I see it fits perfectly since you don’t even hint that it exists. I know, we Palestinians should not get bogged down with inconvenient facts on the ground.

“I really liked the part of the plan’s vision which notes that it can only be achieved, ‘following a peace agreement’ and that ‘Only through peace can the Palestinians achieve prosperity.’ You are spot on here Jared, but isn’t that what the Palestinian leadership and people have been saying to you from the outset, show us the political parameters and then we can talk economy? Isn’t that how ‘business plans’ are built; you ask about the applicable laws and regulations, then you build your plan? Ahh, I understand your business experience may be different than what my Youngstown State University degree and Northwestern University and Tel Aviv University MBA taught me.

‘I loved how you started the narrative part of the plan, ‘Generations of Palestinians have lived without knowing peace, and the West Bank and Gaza have fallen into a protracted crisis.’ Really? I wonder why. ‘Falling’ into such a crisis is such a bummer, we must be more careful next time.

“Now, seriously Jared, I read English well, or so I thought, but parts of your plan just left me hanging. Can you explain?

“You say the plan has the ‘potential to facilitate more than $50 billion in new investment over ten years.’ ‘Potential to facilitate,’ is that like me having the ‘potential to facilitate’ reaching the moon on my bicycle? After all, science is moving so fast the potential is there and all I need to do is aim to facilitate so I don’t really need to leave earth at all.

“You state that the plan can ‘fundamentally transform the West Bank and Gaza and to open a new chapter in Palestinian history — one defined, not by adversity and loss, but by freedom and dignity.’ ‘Adversity and loss,’ another bummer. I wonder how we got that to start with. I was so happy you did not go there in the report; it would have been so ‘old talk’ to explain why. Let’s just pretend an earthquake hit us and stay focused on the future.

“The plan keeps mentioning the ‘applicable Palestinian authorities.’ Now, who could that be? Can’t be the PLO, because Trump closed their office in Washington D.C. months ago. It can’t be the State of Palestine, because although over 130 countries recognize Palestine, the U.S. does not. Please Jared, I need to know. You can’t fill your report with such words and not know who you refer to.

“Similarly, Jared you repeat, ‘following the adoption’ throughout the report. Adoption by whom? Please tell me because I can’t wait to call them and tell them how great a plan this is.

“You’re on target again Jared when you say, ‘no vision for the Palestinians can be realized without the full support of the Palestinian people and their leadership.’ I can kiss you for this one.

“I was so happy that you are aware that ‘certainty and predictability for investors’ is needed and your plan promises it. The plan also promises to ‘open the West Bank and Gaza Strip.’ Only problem with these, my friend, is that you skip the how here and who is not allowing for ‘certainty and predictability’ and why are we ‘closed’ today. Jared, you’re losing me here.

“Your plan promises to ‘provide financial and technical assistance to build the capacity of immigration and customs officials to operate and manage crossing points in coordination with neighboring states’ and will ‘construct new ports of entry.’ Excuse my ignorance here, but these require a state, that thing you have already dismissed and the U.S. ambassador to Israel can’t define, so I must ask what will the nationality of those ‘immigration and customs officials’ be and what country will these new ports belong to?

“The plan promises to bring ‘5G telecommunications services’ to Palestinians. Cool, the U.S. doesn’t even have that, and it took 12 years to get 3G frequencies released only last year. I will not say who released them, so I stay positive like you.

“Jared, my man, do you know ‘Rukab ice cream?’ Boy, my friends at Balanda ice cream are going to be fuming.

“Your plan says, ‘While agriculture accounts for approximately eight percent of Palestinian employment, this sector has not met its potential due to limited access of Palestinian farmers to land, water, and technology.’ Jared, you did not mention what was the percentage before the last 25-year U.S.-run peace plan called Oslo. I know, I know, look forward, stay positive. I’m trying, really, I’m trying but when you went on to note that it’s because of ‘limited access of Palestinian farmers to land, [and] water’ I just looked up and saw that damn settlement across the valley again, but don’t worry, I pretended it was not there and actually feel good now.

“A new university. That’s so kind of you Jared. Too bad you don’t have the slightest understanding of why we don’t need a new university, at least not like the one you suggest. But I do have a university project, let’s have coffee when you are in the neighborhood and I can pitch it to you. You have it down for $500 million, I promise you I’ll do mine for $200 million and we can split the remainder.

“Jared, oh Jared, I was literally jumping for joy when I read this: ‘In accord with the principles of rule of law and separation of powers, the independence of the Palestinian judicial branch must be reassessed and strengthened. A strong judiciary and reliable court system allow businesses to know that their investments will be secure and that their companies and the products they create will be protected from unfair treatment. Confidence in legal matters is a critical element of business risk reduction, which attracts private capital and foreign investment. To this end, this project will partner with the Palestinian authorities to encourage laws and regulations that secure the independence of the judicial system. It will invest in building the capacity of the courts, with a particular focus on enhancing their ability to handle cases covering potential government abuse.’ YES! YES! YES, but can we agree to do this in the U.S. first, you know, as a pilot. We can start with applying all this to your office.

“I could go on, but I know you are busy. You produced a plan for Palestine without mentioning Palestine. You spoke of the Palestinian people without recognizing that 300,000 of us are in Jerusalem and 5 million of us are waiting to go home. You did not use the word ‘occupation’ once in all 136 pages of the plan; well, you did come close by using ‘high-growth occupations’ which could be a pun but one you did not intend to make.

“Jared, you know most will not even read your plan, they will take a glance and see all the amazing projects listed and say, give the guy a break, he’s trying. I know better Jared; I’ve been here on the ground in the private sector for 25 years. This is a nice snow job. In the management consulting world, we call it desk research, with no field work, no assumptions and definitely no agency that can make the project real. Nearly every single project you list is not original, but I have to give it to you, you even say that in the report, ‘The projects are drawn from private sector proposals, government planning documents, independent analysis, and the work of previous studies from organizations such as the World Bank Group, the International Monetary Fund, the Office of the Quartet, and others.’

“Jared, you are driving drunk on power and since we are now friends please listen. From one American to another: Get out of the car. Go home. You are wasting time and taxpayers’ dollars trying to whitewash 52 years of Israeli military occupation, one that is alive and well today even if you are blind to it.”

Yours Truly,
Sam I Am

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 24, 2019, 8:37 am

@hophmi

“It’s another antisemitic post by Phil Weiss blaming Jews for anything that happens with Iran that he doesn’t like.”

Come out of your trance man! Slowly, but surely, as was inevitable, the “Special Relationship” between “Israel” and the U.S. is coming apart.

KarlRKaiser
KarlRKaiser on June 24, 2019, 8:30 am

It was a treat to hear Trump say that he hired Bolton to have a hawkish opinion but that he wanted to hear all sides of these foreign policy issues, and that he does not agree with Bolton on occasion and doesn’t take his advice. That’s actually “good business” and the opposite of ideological thinking (from someone who’s still practically a Christian Zionist, alas). But Bolton must be fuming to not be able to wag his President.

Misterioso
Misterioso on June 24, 2019, 8:29 am

Also:

https://www.juancole.com/2019/06/terrible-saudis-turning.html

“A Terrible Week for Saudi’s MBS Shows Tide is Turning”
Human rights watch, June 23/19

By Elisa Epstein | Advocacy Coordinator, Human Rights Watch.

“In a powerful rebuke to the Trump administration and a strong signal to Gulf states, the US Senate voted yesterday, 53 to 45, to block arms sales worth billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), among other countries.

“The vote came on the heels of a landmark court decision in the United Kingdom resulting in an immediate suspension of new licenses for arms sales to Saudi Arabia and of the release of a damning UN report, earlier in the week, from the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, Agnes Callamard, detailing the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Khashoggi was a US resident and Washington Post journalist who was killed in October 2018 inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Callamard said that Saudi Arabia was responsible for Khashoggi’s murder and that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a criminal investigation of senior Saudi officials, including the Saudi Crown Prince himself. It’s been a cascade of bad news for Muhammed bin Salman this week and a positive step forward for human rights and accountability.

“Human Rights Watch has documented scores of abuses, including apparent war crimes, by the Saudi-led coalition in the war in Yemen, and has repeatedly demanded justice for Khashoggi’s murder. Despite targeted US sanctions on 17 individuals, the Saudis have proceeded with almost total impunity – on both Khashoggi’s death and on the abuses in Yemen. And despite these apparent crimes, the Trump administration has continued to sell the Saudis billions of dollars in weapons.

“But the tide is starting to turn in Congress now. In recent months, Congress has introduced a flurry of resolutions and bills in response to both Khashoggi’s murder and Saudi’s destructive campaign in Yemen, as well as to broader human rights concerns domestically – including the detention and torture of women’s rights activists, detained merely for their rights advocacy.

“The White House has made clear that if the Senate resolution reaches the president’s desk, as it likely will, Trump will veto it. Congress should keep up the pressure to ensure a more principled approach towards Saudi Arabia.”

Citizen
Citizen on June 24, 2019, 8:04 am

The Great Journalist Dorothy Thompson Speaks From The Grave With A Most Relevant Question For Americans in 2019: Do Israeli Ties Conflict with U.S. Citizenship? America Demands a Single Loyalty https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/do-israeli-ties-conflict-with-u-s-citizenshipamerica-demands-a-single-loyalty/ via @commentary