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Qualtrough
July 19, 2018, 10:40 pm

This is the Zionist equivalent of an ‘Own Goal’. BDS could only hope to cause as much damage to Zionism as this act will.

Jon66
July 19, 2018, 10:08 pm

It would be helpful to know the signers definition of anti-semitism. They judge BDS to not be AS, but don’t tell us the criteria they use to make the judgement.

To say an animal is not a mammal, we need to know the definition of a mammal.

They do not propose a definition of anti-semitism through which BDS or any other movement could be measured.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 9:14 pm

|| Boris: … There is nothing about religion in this bill. ||

Yup, not a peep about religion…aside from confirming Israel’s status as a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” primarily of and for people all over the world – citizens of homelands all over the world – who have chosen or will choose to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish.

Good one.  :-)

RoHa
July 19, 2018, 8:13 pm

I think that should be “as much as possible of what the Zionists regard as Palestine and Eretz Israel”.

The modest versions include much of Jordan and Lebanon. The more ambitious versions are reputed to stretch from the Nile to the Euphrates.

RoHa
July 19, 2018, 7:49 pm

I recall seeing a film in which a middle-aged Jew grumbled about young Jews not knowing “their own language”. But he was talking about Yiddish.

RoHa
July 19, 2018, 7:45 pm

History ended in 1946. Everything since then is current events.

JohnSmith
July 19, 2018, 6:45 pm

I realize your contributions at MondoWeiss are incredible and estimable, but I think there is a typo in your comment! I think you mean “make the *majority* feel like second class citizens.” Perhaps people find it “impolite” not to go along with Zionist claims, but no matter how many ways Zionists have been slicing things and dicing things over the years, I don’t think they’ve ever been in the majority in Israel-Palestine. Certainly not if you include the disenfranchised driven from their homes.

Boris
July 19, 2018, 6:34 pm

I can see why this concerns you.

But have no fear – your hide is safe. There is nothing about religion in this bill.

MHughes976
July 19, 2018, 6:33 pm

Greetings on my 74th birthday! I think that Israel is very happy to contemplate the indefinite existence of a Palestinian minority and of Palestinian enclaves. Zionism, in its self image, is generous to a high degree, everything that a movement for national liberation should be, everything that Nazism was not. Of course it is being generous with what it does not deserve to have but that fact is rendered invisible.

Boris
July 19, 2018, 6:23 pm

It is the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end …

I’ll take it…

echinococcus
July 19, 2018, 5:51 pm

Bah, as long as human sacrifice is an everyday event that doesn’t even rate a mention any longer, they don’t really need animal sacrifice.

echinococcus
July 19, 2018, 5:50 pm

Maghla,

Stop justifying colonialism, theft and murder.
So occupying other people’s land is not the problem, eh, as long as the locals are just natives? Only the “excesses” seem to be a problem?

Mooser
July 19, 2018, 5:41 pm

“Keith”, please don’t think I blame Russia. Either its government or its people.

Mooser
July 19, 2018, 5:26 pm

“. Most people are a bundle of bias and emotion waiting to be exploited. Faithful followers. Leaders are a bundle of bias and emotion waiting to exploit. Power seekers…This is one of the reasons I have so little hope.” “Keith”

Don’t you live in Washington State? Hope is legal here.

Kay24
July 19, 2018, 4:49 pm

It’s borders are expanding on a daily basis, at the expense of the indigenous people.

Mooser
July 19, 2018, 4:45 pm

So if a US Presedential candidate is offered help in a campaign from a foreign power, he (or she) must accept it?

Mooser
July 19, 2018, 4:39 pm

Pssst, “Keith”, listen, when the time comes, I’ve got a couple of underscores for sale to the highest bidder.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 4:38 pm

“I think the borders are what they’ve always been: As much as possible of geographic Palestine”

Everything, everything

To end up perhaps with nothing

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 4:33 pm

The NYT has been behind Israel every step of the way. Really stupid.

guyn
July 19, 2018, 4:24 pm

They have forgotten to legalize animal sacrifice on the Temple Mount.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 4:18 pm

It was. Many countries were too. Israel had the chance to be a normal country, to deal with the past and secure its future . It needed a decent leader to execute that. Instead it had a succession of vicious assholes. Now it’s too late.

Marnie
July 19, 2018, 4:17 pm

Annie – I wrote ‘beginning of the end’. You then added ‘of israel’ then ask me if my response to you was a trick question? To be more clear, imo It’s the beginning of the end of a lot more than just israel.Of course you could still write all the same responses to that too I guess.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 4:09 pm

BDS is now vital. Hit Israel where it hurts. People of conscience from all over the world can bring this sick system down.
The argument that BDS should not apply to Israel itself is now dead in the water.
the fight for justice for Palestinians is the fight for justice everywhere,.

Saving Judaism is an aftertaste

echinococcus
July 19, 2018, 3:37 pm

The big question is how did Zionism, Hatikva, the great hope, end up led by such an asshole.

Check your irrational sympathies. “Zionism, Hatikva” was initiated and implemented by assholes bigger than the current Yahoo.
And, important to observe, followed by the same ilk.

gracie fr
July 19, 2018, 3:34 pm

If no international condemnation and sanctions of some kind are not forthcoming, this move of “exclusive citizenry” will set an extremely dangerous precedent for all those international pariahs with animus toward internal minority populations struggling against ongoing human rights violations committed against them under the fig leaf of fighting “terrorism”(Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Chechnya, Mali
Niger, and with potential retaliation against independent movements in Cameron,Turkey,Myranmar, Xinjihina China etc). By in large, Israel has rewritten international law when it comes to the killing. exiling, capture and imprisonment and torture of internal dissidents with the endless clamor of …”We are protecting our citizens”. Beginning with Hell fire missiles in 2000, the IDF had escalated to drone fired missiles by 2002 triggering mounting concern due to widespread collateral damage. Today, the drone strike and other means of annihilation have become standard practice. These methods falls under the categorical imperative of the Lesser Evil/economy of results/Ticking Time bomb/Doctrine of Necessity/ the greatest good for the greatest number/Preemption doctrine. In sum, one side is legitimate and the other side is not and anybody that doesn’t roll over and contests the fact aggressively deserves to die…..

inbound39
July 19, 2018, 3:26 pm

When it comes to Israel and Russia I get the impression that Putin tolerates Netanyahu and that Putin is simply providing Netanyahu a false sense of security in Syria. I am expecting Russia to set Israel up for a fall. That at some stage Israel will come racing over the border with its F-35 jets and few will return home. Already Israel is not as safe as it was to attack Syria at will and its effectiveness to some extent has been curbed due to S-300 missile systems. I would not write off the deployment of S-400 systems yet either. I cannot see Putin dumping Iran. Things are going on behind the scenes we have seen nothing of yet.

Talkback
July 19, 2018, 3:21 pm

After the Nazi like differentiation between nationals and citizens it’s just the next logical step. The mask is falling.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 3:02 pm

|| HarryLaw: eljay ” As much as possible of geographic Palestine” With all due respect, I think you are wrong about that, the Israelis claim sovereignty over the whole of Palestine … ||

I don’t believe I am. For their “Jewish State” Zionists want as much as possible of geographic Palestine as they can get. So far, that area has grown from Partition borders to ’67 borders to most of geographic Palestine. If they can secure all of it, that’s “as much as possible” as they’ll get. If they can only secure 98%, that’s also “as much as possible” as they’ll get.

Kay24
July 19, 2018, 2:56 pm

This is our illegal nation built on stolen land, and you are supposed to ignore the fact that we are evil enough to kill, steal, and occupy, until we have rid the Palestinian territories of all Arabs. Our sugar daddy is also complicit in our crimes.

JLewisDickerson
July 19, 2018, 2:43 pm

You’re quite welcome, Tova. Don’t count out my making an additional contribution to the summer campaign.

HarryLaw
July 19, 2018, 2:28 pm

eljay ” As much as possible of geographic Palestine” With all due respect, I think you are wrong about that, the Israelis claim sovereignty over the whole of Palestine i.e. ‘The Land of Israel’ this is in the Likud constituion as it is in the new basic law. If the Palestinians do not recognise Israeli sovereignty over the whole ‘ of the land of Israel’ and confine themselves to the ‘Bantustans’ paid for by the Saudis and other Gulfies the US and EU then they will be made to suffer. Naftali Bennett wrote about this in the New York Times not long ago, including the Palestinians administering those areas without a vote in the Knesset, in short…”The Palestinians will have political independence, hold their own elections, select their own leadership, run their own schools, maintain their own social services and issue their own building permits. They should govern themselves and run their day-to-day lives. Israel should not interfere. Much of this already exists, but we can do better.

This Palestinian entity will be short of a state. It will not control its own borders and will not be allowed to have a military”. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/opinion/naftali-bennett-for-israel-two-state-is-no-solution.html There we have it, no two state solution. Unfortunately there is no political will for outsiders to do anything about confronting Israeli impunity, the EU said we “will continue to engage with Israeli authorities” in other words they will do nothing. The Palestinians must first try to unite, then find allies in the region to formulate an action plan.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 2:23 pm

This day of ignominy goes back to a speech Nitin/Milikovski/Netanyahu made in his 20s. There is no such thing as a Palestinian. there is no such thing as Palestinian rights. They lost. It is over.

In the intervening period he became King of the Jews and his crap became policy. Now there is the Jewish state min al Nahr ila al bahr – from the river to the sea. It has been made possible by US cover and US money. Nothing ever stood in the way of the project. It needed the brainwashing of the Israeli Jewish population too of course and the diversion of over $100 bn of taxes from welfare and education to the fucking settlers.
The project succeeded because of its many enablers- the EU too of course and the Arab leaders. It also ran up huge risks. One of these risks will blow up Israel. And Israel can never reach equilibrium. It can never be a normal country.
Nobody groupthinking sees any of this.

The big question is how did Zionism, Hatikva, the great hope, end up led by such an asshole.

inbound39
July 19, 2018, 2:23 pm

The Apartheid State of Israel cannot be allowed to stand. Federica Mogherini needs to wake up. Her concern does nothing. She needs to encourage and put in place stiff sanctions against Israel and follow Ireland’s example.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 2:09 pm

“Our language” is Modern Hebrew, the trauma and groupthink vector.
Nobody thinks like Jewish Israelis cos nobody speaks modern Hebrew. Modern Hebrew has all of the filth that defines the insanity.

Annie Robbins
July 19, 2018, 2:06 pm

where did the beginning of the end of israel go? hmm. is that a trick question? it’s been on a downhill road since the beginning.

Annie Robbins
July 19, 2018, 2:03 pm

Interesting to look at how the NYT is reporting this.
on page A6!

amigo
July 19, 2018, 1:55 pm

0ssinev/eljay.

My fervent hope is that the Notion(al) state of the Jewish people will come and go without ever having had Borders.

Israel , the state that never was.

Elliot
July 19, 2018, 1:52 pm

Bravo to the Oudeh and the Palestinian MKs for ripping up this disgusting piece of paper! American Jews need to resist Section 6. We should have nothing to do with this racist bully. It can keep its fantasies to itself. We have enough trouble with our homegrown White supremacists.

John O
July 19, 2018, 1:35 pm

Interesting to look at how the NYT is reporting this. More interesting to see the readers’ comments – overwhelmingly decrying the folly and injustice of this decision.

Ossinev
July 19, 2018, 1:15 pm

@amigo
“Does the Nation State of the Jewish People come with borders”

Not so far as I can tell but it does come with war criminals and murderers.

I do hope that Ireland continues to take the moral lead and hopefully be the first EU country to severe ties with the Apartheid colony.

Kay24
July 19, 2018, 1:12 pm

Once again Israel showing the world that it will keep the apartheid state going, and it will keep making the minority feel like second class citizens.
Crooked Bibi is doing his darndest to keep Jewish supremacy alive.

Marnie
July 19, 2018, 1:01 pm

“the beginning of the end came and went a long time ago.”

Okay. Where did it go?

amigo
July 19, 2018, 12:56 pm

Misterioso ,

Corbyn is heading for Downing st and the pro Israel gang in the conservative party are running scared knowing the recognition of the State of Palestine will be one of his first acts as Leader .Ireland will follow and many other EU member states.At that point we might get some action from the EU instead of the usual lip flapping we are used to seeing.

Wouldn,t want to be be one of those who have spent so much effort trying to bring down Jeremy Corbyn for the last 3+ years.

Maghlawatan
July 19, 2018, 12:55 pm

Jewish messianism sees Israel as the reward for the Shoah . Without Auschwitz there could be no white phosporous, no Bar Refaeli.
Jewish Messianism says history is over.
History is never over.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 12:50 pm

|| amigo: Does the Nation State of the Jewish People come with borders. ||

I think the border are what they’ve always been: As much as possible of geographic Palestine.

amigo
July 19, 2018, 12:40 pm

Does the Nation State of the Jewish People come with borders.

Annie Robbins
July 19, 2018, 12:14 pm

the beginning of the end came and went a long time ago.

Marnie
July 19, 2018, 12:00 pm

Here’s a crazy, wacky idea EU – quit talking to netanyahoo and his band of racists and talk to Haneen Zoabi, Jamal Zahalka and Joint List members. Cut netanyahoo off – he’s just another zionist arch-criminal. (They are the ones who take terrible pictures – they’re too real).

https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.6291110.1531993728!/image/2549187642.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/2549187642.jpg

Misterioso
July 19, 2018, 11:26 am

Breaking:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/19/ultimate-deal-israel-palestine-peace-middle-east

“The ‘ultimate deal’? For Israel, maybe. We Palestinians will never accept it.”

“A US-backed deal to bring ‘peace’ to the Middle East would just legitimise Israeli aggression – and oppress my people further.”
By Hanan Ashrawi, The Guardian, July 19/18

EXCERPT:
“President Donald Trump and his administration have been promising to announce what has been called, ironically, the ‘ultimate deal’ for Israel and Palestine. It is a proposition for ‘peace’ that violates the most basic requirements for a just and sustainable solution, flouts international law, contradicts the global consensus on peace (which in itself constitutes a major compromise by the Palestinians), and even departs from the declared policies of several previous US administrations.

“The ‘ultimate deal’ suffers from multiple fatal flaws and misconceptions that several successive US administrations have repeatedly failed to recognise. The spirit of the Palestinian people cannot be broken or brought into submission; nor will we ever succumb to external pressure and blackmail. To expect us to surrender our rights and freedom in exchange for a mythical ‘economic peace’ is nothing short of a flight of fancy.

“The US partnership with the Israeli occupation came to a head with Trump’s highly contentious recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and then, in another act of provocation, his moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The decision emboldened the right wing, racist, ethno-sectarian and hyper-nationalist forces in Israel – and gave the Israeli government the green light to colonise more Palestinian land and effectively deal the final blow to an already ailing two-state solution. The inability to recognise that Jerusalem is the historical, cultural, geographic and demographic heart of Palestine already set up the ‘ultimate deal’ for failure. Jerusalem is the linchpin of peace.

“The same ideology that violated Jerusalem is also behind the US administration’s assault on Palestinian refugees and their right of return – a universally recognised right that cannot be denied just to accommodate Israel’s exclusivity and exclusionary policies. The Trump administration targeted Palestinian refugees by cutting funding from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) – and denying them access to healthcare, education and social services.

“Palestinian refugees have been longing for home for 70 years after being violently uprooted and expelled from their ancestral homeland. To deprive them of their rights and to crush their hopes and aspirations for redress and a life worth living is the utmost cruelty. Such an injustice will also fuel the flames of extremism and violence, leading to further regional instability and conflict. In addition to being morally reprehensible, such a policy is utterly dangerous and irresponsible.

“The ‘ultimate deal’ does not intend to offer a solution but rather to reinvent the occupation as a system of military and unaccountable control, and accommodate the continuing theft and fragmentation of our land, thereby relegating us to imprisonment in isolated territories at the mercy of Israeli security control. It further suffers from the illusion that the Palestinian people will give up their deep historical, cultural, and national commitment to Jerusalem – and relinquish the rights of our refugees.”

Misterioso
July 19, 2018, 10:57 am

@JLewisDickerston

“…Richard Falk, he is individual of immense integrity”

Indeed!
Here’s an example:

Le Monde Diplomatique, April, 2009
“Calls for investigation into Gaza attacks Israel’s war crimes”

“Israel blamed its earlier wars on the threat to its security, even that against Lebanon in 1982. However, its assault on Gaza was not justified and there are international calls for an investigation. But is there the political will to make Israel account for its war crimes?”

By Richard Falk

EXCERPTS:
“For the first time since the establishment of Israel in 1948 the government is facing serious allegations of war crimes from respected public figures throughout the world. Even the secretary general of the United Nations, Ban Ki-moon, normally so cautious about offending sovereign states – especially those aligned with its most influential member, the United States – has joined the call for an investigation and potential accountability. To grasp the significance of these developments it is necessary to explain what made the 22 days of attacks in Gaza stand shockingly apart from the much prior recourse to force Israel to uphold its security and strategic interests.

“In my view, what made the Gaza attacks launched on 27 December different from the main wars fought by Israel over the years was that the weapons and tactics used devastated an essentially defenceless civilian population. The one-sidedness of the encounter was so stark, as signaled by the relative casualties on both sides (more than 100 to 1; 1300-plus Palestinians killed compared with 13 Israelis, and several of these by friendly fire), that most commentators refrained from attaching the label ‘war’.

“The Israelis and their friends talk of ‘retaliation’ and ‘the right of Israel to defend itself’. Critics described the attacks as a ‘massacre’ or relied on the language of war crimes and crimes against humanity. In the past Israeli uses of force were often widely condemned, especially by Arab governments, including charges that the UN Charter was being violated, but there was an implicit acknowledgement that Israel was using force in a war mode. War crimes charges (to the extent they were made) came only from radical governments and the extreme left.”

“The Gaza operation brought these concerns to the fore as it dramatized this shift away from fighting states to struggles against armed resistance movements, and with a related shift from the language of ‘war’ to ‘criminality’. In one important respect, Israel managed to skew perceptions and discourse by getting the media and diplomats to focus the basic international criminal law question on whether or not Israeli use of force was ‘disproportionate.’ This way of describing Israeli recourse to force ignores the foundational issue: were the attacks in any legal sense ‘defensive’ in character in the first place? An inquiry into the surrounding circumstances shows an absence of any kind of defensive necessity: a temporary ceasefire between Israel and Hamas that had been in effect since 19 July 2008 had succeeded in reducing cross-border violence virtually to zero; Hamas consistently offered to extend the ceasefire, even to a longer period of ten years; the breakdown of the ceasefire is not primarily the result of Hamas rocket fire, but came about mainly as a result of an Israeli air attack on 4 November that killed six Hamas fighters in Gaza.”

Keith
July 19, 2018, 10:47 am

MOOSER- “…colluding with Russia.”

What are you, a DNC parrot? A new cold warrior? This Russiagate nonsense is pure BS. The world would be a better place if Israel had as little influence on US policy as Russia which is close to zero. The New Democrats are the new warmongers, McCarthyites on steroids.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 10:39 am

Netanyahu in triumph

The “triumph” of supremacism – Jewish or otherwise – is the triumph of injustice and immorality. All hail Bibi, King of Jewish Supremacism.

… The EU expresses concern …

*snore*

Misterioso
July 19, 2018, 10:31 am

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2018/07/17/corbyn-receives-a-huge-boost-from-36-jewish-groups-worldwide-which-is-awkward-for-the-media/

“Corbyn receives a huge boost from 36 Jewish groups worldwide, embarrassing the media”
The Canary, July 17/18

EXCERPT:
“Jeremy Corbyn has received a major boost from 36 Jewish groups worldwide, embarrassing the corporate media. The Labour leader is currently under pressure from the press, the right of his party, and the conservative Board of Deputies of British Jews. They are pushing for Labour to adopt wholesale the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s (IHRA) definition of antisemitism into its rule book.

“Jewish groups speak out”

“On 17 July, 36 Jewish groups from around the world said that the IHRA definition ‘intentionally’ equates ‘legitimate criticisms of Israel… with antisemitism’. And later in the day, Labour’s ruling body approved a new code of conduct that included a version of the IHRA definition without the examples that could stifle legitimate criticism of Israel.
The Labour leadership claims to have expanded on the IHRA definition, also giving new examples.

“Media attacks”
“BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg suggested Labour’s decision had let down the ‘Jewish community’. And the Guardian‘s Jonathan Freedland said Labour decided ‘it knows better’ than ‘every mainstream Jewish organisation in the UK.’ But now, for the first time, 36 Jewish groups (including six based in the UK) have come together in a move that strengthens the position of Corbyn and organisations that support Palestinian rights.”

Keith
July 19, 2018, 10:25 am

KAY24- “It seems Trump became a Russian official at that moment.”

Defending the integrity of the CIA? Calling detente treason? You must be a diehard Democratic loyalist. The lying, cheating, murderous empire is on a rampage and you defend the rampage? What next, Heil Hitlary? Unbelievable.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 10:05 am

|| Osinev: … Where did this quote come from ? … Apologies if you are simply lampooning. ||

No worries. I was advised once not to use quotation marks when making stuff up so instead I tend to use italics.  :-)

Ossinev
July 19, 2018, 9:54 am

@ejay
“Yeah, well, at least Israel isn’t as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali, African ‘hellholes’, China, 19th-century America, Russia, Syria or Egypt.”

Where did this quote come from ? I know that even the mighty Churchillian Yahoo is not immune to the dreaded whataboudiaorrhea but including Russia and Saudi Arabia on a Zio W list seems strange to me.

Apologies if you are simply lampooning.

HarryLaw
July 19, 2018, 8:55 am

The US spent $5 billion on regime change in Ukraine http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/ on a lighter note to all rap [I think that’s what it is called] fans at Mondoweiss here is Acid Pauli doing his take of Victoria Nuland and that phone call ‘f**k the EU’ https://soundcloud.com/acidpauli/fuck-the-eu Personally I’m a George Formby fan.

eljay
July 19, 2018, 8:41 am

|| Ossinev: … The HebrewVolk Bill has now been passed and Zioland is now officially an Apartheid state. … https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-passes-controversial-nation-state-bill-1.6291048 … ||

… Netanyahu further said … ” … Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people, and respects the rights of all of its citizens.”

The prime minister also said that “in the Middle East, only Israel respects [rights]. This is our country, the Jewish state. … “

When challenged on Israel’s record of past and on-going (war) crimes and human-rights abuses and the fact that a supremacist state by definition cannot “respect the rights of all of its citizens”, Mr. Netanyahu – the self-proclaimed leader of every Jewish person in the world regardless of their actual nationality – said in defence of the “Jewish State”: “Yeah, well, at least Israel isn’t as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali, African ‘hellholes’, China, 19th-century America, Russia, Syria or Egypt.”

eljay
July 19, 2018, 8:12 am

|| JulianaFarha: … This morning I’ve been reading about the passage of Israel’s nation state bill in which Jewish Israelis’ ethno-supremacy is finally formalised. The theme of every article is whether Israel has lost its claim to be a democracy, as if that’s the most pressing issue thrown up by this revolting legislation. … ||

It’s the most-pressing issue for shoot-and-cry Zionists because, well, aggressor-victimhood is a very tough gig…  :-(

Eva Smagacz
July 19, 2018, 8:01 am

Don’t know about burning, but looting is a historical fact:

This from The Economist:

https://www.economist.com/prospero/2013/01/21/dark-stories

“Farewell, my books! How much midnight oil did I burn with you…” Al Sakakini wrote these words shortly after Jewish soldiers swept through Jerusalem’s affluent Arab neighbourhoods of Qatamon, Musrara and Baq’a, “collecting” 30,000 books, newspapers and documents. The haul included works of immeasurable historical or religious significance, such as hand-written copies of the Koran and Hadith, emblazoned with gold leaf. Some 40,000 other books were seized from abandoned homes in urban centres such as Nazareth, Jaffa and Haifa. In writing, Al Sakakini wonders if his treasured possessions were looted or burnt. “Were you transferred, with due respect, to a private or public library?” he asks, or “did you find your way to the grocer, your pages wrapping onions?”

And this:

https://arablit.org/2013/01/20/stolen-books-stolen-identity-what-did-israel-do-with-palestinians-literary-heritage/
Only about 6,000 books are still labeled “Absentee Property”—and these, we were told, can be seen by logging into the National Library of Israel and searching by call numbers starting with AP. Brunner speculates that the other 24,000 books that are listed in the documentation are either mixed in with the general collection or have been lost or destroyed. Another 50,000-60,000 books are known to have been looted from other parts of Palestine, mostly textbooks, which Brunner speculated were mostly destroyed or sold. During the discussion that followed the film, he also made the point that rare manuscripts (estimated by a knowledgeable member of the audience as numbering around 50,000 originating from 56 libraries in and around Jerusalem) are not included in the estimates and are totally unaccounted for. There are rare Palestinian manuscripts in the collection at the National Library, but they are not accessible by the general public. There are also rare Palestinian manuscripts at Hebrew University.

125/136

Eva Smagacz
July 19, 2018, 7:57 am

Let me take a walk down the memory lane to Poland:

“After the Polish defeat in the Polish Defensive War of 1939 and the subsequent German and Soviet occupation of Polish territory, Poland was divided into the areas directly incorporated into the Reich, areas directly incorporated into the Soviet Union and the German-controlled General Government. According to Nazi racial theories the Slavs needed no higher education and the whole nation was to be turned into uneducated serfs for the German race.[1] The only schools that remained opened were trade schools and courses for factory workers.[1] Himmler prescribed:[2]

For the non-German population of the East there can be no type of school above the four-grade rudimentary school. The job of these schools should be confined to the teaching of counting (no higher than up to 500), the writing of one’s name, and the teaching that God’s commandment means obedience to the Germans, honesty, industry and politeness. Reading I do not consider essential.

By 1941, the number of children attending elementary school in the General Government was half of the pre-war number.[3]

On the territories incorporated into the Reich, education in Polish was banned and punished with death. Throughout Polish territory the Germans abolished all university education for non-Germans. All institutions of higher education were closed. Their equipment and most of the laboratories were taken to Germany and divided among the German universities while the buildings were turned into offices and military barracks.”

124/135

Ossinev
July 19, 2018, 7:31 am

Sounds familiar:

“The Nazis swept away many of the freedoms that Germans had enjoyed under the Weimar Republic. The Nazi’s control of the legal system made opposition to the regime very difficult.

Judges had to swear an oath of loyalty to Hitler and were expected always to act in the interests of the Nazi state.
All lawyers had to join the Nazi Lawyers’ Association, which meant they could be controlled.
The role of defence lawyers in criminal trials was weakened.
Some trials were staged as publicity stunts.
“People’s Courts” were set up in 1934 to try those accused of “crimes against the state”.
Standard punishments for crime were abolished, so local prosecutors could decide what penalties to impose on those found guilty.
The number of crimes that carried the death penalty increased from three to 46.
“Protective custody” was introduced for those who might commit a crime. This meant people could be arrested and interned even if they had not broken the law.
These changes meant the legal system was no longer fair. People lost many of their civil rights”
https://www.bbc.com/education/guides/z2p3k2p/revision/2

eljay
July 19, 2018, 7:22 am

… The same video includes annihilationist fantasies about Iran from Netanyahu and a colleague.

The prime minister then begins to speak about the Iranian regime… before he is interrupted by an unidentified person off-screen who says, “It will disappear with the help of God.”

“You said it. From your mouth to God,” Netanyahu says in response as the clip ends.

There’s no end to the hatefulness, immorality and hypocrisy of Zionists.

Eva Smagacz
July 19, 2018, 7:22 am

In what appears to be a great timing, the police (some say anti-terrorist police) in UK have announced that they progressed with their investigation of Skripal poisoning and they have several Russian suspects ei. people who they think are involved.

Amusingly, the novichok transmogrified from gel to spray, the supposedly professional hit ended with novichok being (presumably) dumped in the bushes for a tramp lady (Dawn Sturgess) to find, and police (but not Metropolitan Police which would not comment – so we have no clue what “police”) are saying they identified suspects, and they are Russian.

The nerve gas 8 times stronger than sarin takes 9 days to kill tramp lady that, so they say, mistook it for perfume, and applied it directly to her skin damaging, they say, her face and hands, because everyone knows you spray perfume on your face and hands.

All this before autopsy is performed (it will be done from today) which is meant to establish the cause of death.

All the while, Porton Down, UK government chemical weapons facility nearby, has not even been able to establish the source of the novichok. (they have stock of their own, by the way), not that you can see it from the news.

Oh, and Skripal and Skripal’s daughter still have not contacted his ailing mother, while being kept, “for their own good” in safe house by some vaguely identified security agency.

There is another coincidence that is worth noting: in the hospital where Skripal and his daughter were admitted, there were doctors who freshly completed training in Porton Down and this allowed them to have presence of mind to apply anti-nerve agent treatment.

Will be educational to know if Dawn Sturgess will get a proper inquest. Right now it has been adjourned to January 2019.

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Ossinev
July 19, 2018, 6:54 am

@ErikEast
” Perhaps then a one-State but with Palestinian and Israeli ‘nations’, each with their own sports representation could provide the answer”

Things have moved on somewhat. The HebrewVolk Bill has now been passed and Zioland is now officially an Apartheid state. All that is needed to ice the cake are the decorative bits like “Jews only” and ” no Arabs” signs. Don`t you just love the “Only Democracy in the Middle East”LOL
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-passes-controversial-nation-state-bill-1.6291048

Boycott Ugly Racist Apartheid Israel.

JulianaFarha
July 19, 2018, 5:46 am

With respect, so what? I appreciate that you are pointing out how counter productive this behaviour is, but I’m tired of that argument. Why are we obligated constantly to view this issue through the lens of its impact on Israel, Jewish Americans, so-called ‘liberal Zionists’ etc. The ‘sensitivities’ of Jewish students are invariably privileged over the principle of free speech, but also over the sensitivities of Arab and Palestinian students, and pretty much everyone else who actually believes in the universality of human rights and international law.

This morning I’ve been reading about the passage of Israel’s nation state bill in which Jewish Israelis’ ethno-supremacy is finally formalised. The theme of every article is whether Israel has lost its claim to be a democracy, as if that’s the most pressing issue thrown up by this revolting legislation. How about the fact that a significant proportion of the population of Israel has been officially informed that it has no right to self determination, and its representatives were literally thrown out of the legislature to which they were elected? Any outrage about that?

Qualtrough
July 19, 2018, 5:41 am

At some point recently someone congratulated her on her success, and then warned her that she was unlikely to proceed any further unless she modified her stance on Israeli. Or she figured it out herself. Result is the same.

JWalters
July 19, 2018, 2:26 am

“Of course, the wonder of Netanyahu’s influence is that it goes largely undiscussed in the mainstream media.”

That tells us something about the relationship between Netanyahu’s influence and the mainstream media.

A couple of classic articles on this topic –

“Let’s talk about Russian influence”
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/about-russian-influence

“Why Not a Probe of ‘Israel-gate’?”
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/20/why-not-a-probe-of-israel-gate

and highly related –

“The Gaping Holes of Russia-gate”
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/20/the-gaping-holes-of-russia-gate

Marnie
July 19, 2018, 1:20 am

They’ve been doing that, but only christian bibles as far as I know.

Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda – Haaretz …
https://www.haaretz.com/1.4982348

Reaction to Quran burning plan pours in from around the world – CNN …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/10/florida.quran.reactions/index.html

Marnie
July 19, 2018, 1:16 am

No surprise here. The dumbing down of the youth, spearheaded by MK of Education bucky bennett (of the ‘no apologies’ campaign), in the continued efforts by the state to raise ignorant, violent, paranoid children with persecution complexes and turn them into ignorant violent ‘soldiers’ with murder and rape on their minds. Who’s going to stop them?

Jackdaw
July 19, 2018, 12:55 am

Crippled for life. Whatever for? For the fat cats in Hamas who show up to the demonstrations in their BMWs , take some pics, and drive back to their posh offices and homes?

Sibiriak
July 19, 2018, 12:07 am

Ossinev: “Especially those wonderful civilized Western countries” Yes be they East or West or North or South
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The civilized/uncivilized dichotomy has such a glorious history. No reason for progressives to abandon it. (The West is best!)

echinococcus
July 18, 2018, 11:55 pm

Karnak,

It’s not too late for her though

Personally for Ms Cortez, of course it’s not too late; she presumably is full of the best intentions, unlike the warmongering old “middle class” champion mountebank Sanders.

But is sure is way too late for Ms Cortez’ candidacy, the Nth in a long line of fake challengers running under the Democrat Party banner. Just talking about the relatively recent past, of the so-called left characters, who all successfully rallied the boobies back to the voting booth, how many managed to do anything at all that went even a little against the will of the Owners of the Country?
As to whose who got elected and were carrying hope-and-change, lemme see, what did they do?

You just don’t go under the banner of the worst enemy of the people and worst war machine if you intend to fight against it. Duh. That simple. Of course it’s way too late.

Atlantaiconoclast
July 18, 2018, 11:36 pm

Not surprised in the least. Progressives are so afraid of being called anti Semitic, that they forget the importance of being a truth teller.

echinococcus
July 18, 2018, 11:26 pm

We’ve tried war, let’s try peace.

That applies to you guys.
Try preaching that to people like Johnny S.

The Palestinians haven’t tried war yet.

Keith
July 18, 2018, 9:28 pm

PHIL- “Trump’s fiasco in Helsinki….”

I would be most interested in how you came to the conclusion that it was a fiasco. Also, something that may interest fellow commenters is the fact that during the 2012 Presidential election campaign, Obama and the rest of the Democratic elite pilloried Mitt Romney for demonizing Russia as our enemy. They described Romney as stuck in an out of date cold war mentality. Some turnabout! I link to a Chomsky interview where clips of some of these comments are shown. Most interesting. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49873.htm

CigarGod
July 18, 2018, 8:50 pm

We know what one man with a pitcher of koolaid can do.

CigarGod
July 18, 2018, 8:43 pm

You sure put in a lot of work on “definitions” before we can start answering.

CigarGod
July 18, 2018, 8:35 pm

But it’s only a crime if he aids them.

Stephen Shenfield
July 18, 2018, 7:19 pm

One of the ways in which the US privileges Israel is that Israel is allowed to maintain close relations with Russia without ever being criticized for doing so, as any other US ally that tries to do the same is criticized. At the time of the war between Russia and Georgia in 2008 Israel remained silent on the issue and took no part in the West’s propaganda campaign against Russia. Now Israel, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are promoting a grand deal by which the West would again give Russia a free hand in Ukraine and perhaps throughout the former Soviet Union (except for the Baltic states) in exchange for Russia withdrawing from its engagement in Syria and not intervening when the US attacks Iran. This reduces the danger of escalation to nuclear war in both regions but also means that there is no longer any external force deterring the US from aggression in Syria and Iran — unless China steps forward to take Russia’s place. That would be a bold step on China’s part but it is not outside the realm of possibility.

Tova Perlmutter
July 18, 2018, 6:36 pm

Thanks, @lonelyrico!

Boomer
July 18, 2018, 6:29 pm

re Israel > Russia

Well said. There have been a few comments, but not, as you say, in the MSM. For example:

https://www.juancole.com/2018/07/shocked-bromance-netanyahu.html

Regarding the neocons who should be in disgrace (if not in prison) but are still brazen and influential, there is this important book. It isn’t just history — it remains relevant to today:

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/MR-Book-Reviews/march-2018/Book-Review-015/ The reviewer, being in the military, doesn’t make explicit the role Israel played, according to Vogler.

Mooser
July 18, 2018, 6:20 pm

“But you never know – it might work out.”

It is, at least, an ideal to hope for.

chris_k
July 18, 2018, 6:01 pm

Walt and Mearsheimer wrote ““Clinton became an ardent defender of Israel once she began running for office herself, and she now gets strong backing, including financial support, from pro-Israel organizations and individuals. After Clinton appeared at a pro-Israel rally in July 2006 and expressed strong support for Israel’s highly destructive war against Lebanon, Helen Freedman, executive director of the hard-line Americans for a Safe Israel, declared, ‘I thought her remarks were very good, especially in light of her history, and we can’t forget her kiss to Suha.’”

The “kiss to Suha” happened when Sen. Clinton was 51. She can vouch to the organizations and individuals that ‘evolving’ can have a learning curve in some cases.

Mooser
July 18, 2018, 6:00 pm

“And yes, I fear a war.” “Jon s”

Oh, please. You can’t articulate one possible bad consequence for Israel from a war. Do you fear the military might of the Palestinians? You shouldn’t have any problem with that. So what could go wrong? Don’t you anticipate a smashing victory for plucky Israel and a resurgence of world-wide support for Zionism?

Remember “Jon s”, no Jew is an invader, thief, murderer or any other kind no-goodnik in his ancestral homeland.

Mooser
July 18, 2018, 5:54 pm

“fires are inherently dangerous and life-threatening”

Unlike those bomb hits in the video? Or bullets from a sharpshooter’s rifle?

“Jon s” you are doing nothing but taunting us with Israel’s ability to inflict violence on the Palestinians.

Mooser
July 18, 2018, 5:49 pm

Shorter “Jon s”: “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.”

Mooser
July 18, 2018, 5:39 pm

“Nathan”, if you don’t understand how you are “colonizing” the language, and what’s wrong with that, you have no business doing what you are doing. No wonder you are so bad at it.

But this should help you get your outposts and settlements in order.