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  • annie annie, April 24, 2019, 7:20 PM
    this "vast majority of world Jewry" is a hoax.


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  • Nathan Nathan, April 24, 2019, 6:50 PM
    It is reported here that the Palestinians are demonstrating in the "Great March of Return", calling for the return of refugees and for ending the blockade. It was forgotten (again) to mention that the real issue here is ending the conflict. Could it be that the demonstrators envision an eventual return of refugees (and an end of the blockade) while at the same time they mean to continue being in conflict with Israel? If so, what could possibly be the further grievance that justifies the continuation of conflict after realizing the right of return (and why don't we hear what that grievance is)? It seems to me that the slogan of the Gazans should be "we demand peace", and in the framework of a peace settlement all grievances will be rectified. But there isn't an end-of-conflict vision, because the end of conflict would mean accepting the existence of Israel (and it's final). So, it's grievances and self-pity, but there is no outline for ending the conflict. Sometimes, I actually feel sorry for the anti-Israel camp. The real agenda is the defeat of Israel, but that goal doesn't seem too realistic. Therefore, you have to pretend that everyone is stupid, and that they won't notice that demanding "x" and "y" from Israel is not meant to reach an understanding with her; rather, it's just part of the struggle against her. The big world out there of non-anti-Israel people wants to reach a peace arrangement in the Middle East. This means that you raise your grievances, and you acknowledge that the rectification of such grievances means that the conflict has been resolved. Could someone please pass this little lesson in politics over to the demonstrators at the fence?


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  • just just, April 24, 2019, 6:35 PM
    How often do so many hundreds of 'panels' and media roundtables leave out any Palestinian voices? Why does their venom not reach out to Dave Zirin? (Not that any of these folks deserve the venom!) From wiki: "The University of Massachusetts Amherst is a public research and land-grant university in Amherst, Massachusetts. It is the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system." Tax dollars fund it. So all those whinging should keep that in mind.


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  • Brewer Brewer, April 24, 2019, 6:34 PM
    Looks to me that War is now inevitable and the outcome not as assured as in the past. Israel's opposition does not have to "win" to succeed. Whilst Hezbollah and the SAA are battle hardened and resolute, Israel is risk averse, not accustomed to body bags and civilian casualties. Big question is the extent of the U.S. participation, the political support for which, is looking at around tipping point. Interesting times.


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  • Jon66 Jon66, April 24, 2019, 6:22 PM
    Eljay, I must be unclear. Free speech means freedom from governmental interference. So in that regard controversial speech is OK. It does not mean that your boss won’t fire you for being a Nazi or the billboard company won’t reject your ad advocating violence against some racial group. There were no consequences for this conference or for the rapper. “A few weeks ago there was a major conference, Conflict Over Gaza, sponsored by the Duke-UNC Consortium for Middle East Studies and UNC Global. One of the presenters at this high-profile conference was the Palestinian rapper Tamer Nafar. He told the audience that he wanted to sing them a song, but that he needed their help singing it, because “I cannot be anti-Semitic alone.” Just to make sure his intentions were clear; he told the audience not to think of Rihanna. Instead, while singing, they should “think of Mel Gibson” https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2019/04/15/why-has-outrageous-anti-semitism-at-a-uncduke-conference-about-gaza-been-ignored-by-the-media/amp/


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  • Keith Keith, April 24, 2019, 6:20 PM
    HAMZAH RAZA- "At CNN’s recent town hall, Sanders courageously asserted that “Israel is run by a racist government”...." In view of the fact that Netanyahu is strongly disliked by both the Democratic base AND the Democratic leadership (Netanyahu = Trump), just how "courageous" is Bernie Sanders? Why is everyone so servile and ingratiating? The hour is late and the situation grim, time to cut the crap.


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  • lonely rico lonely rico, April 24, 2019, 5:57 PM
    > David Green [l]et’s listen critically to what these speakers have to say, and evaluate whether they are really doing anything tactically or strategically to further the Palestinian cause I personally have listened to several of these speakers, and read the opinions of all of them, and I suspect they will tell the truth about the savage cruelty of the Zionist destruction of Palestine. It is a truth that Americans must hear again and again, until the US stops aiding the Zionist holocaust of the Palestinian people. I am heartened, that despite you skepticism, you will listen and critically but fairly (one hopes) evaluate their position(s) and activism.


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  • Greta Greta, April 24, 2019, 5:46 PM
    Thank you, Alice. I spent six weeks teaching in Najaf, Iraq last year. This is what I wrote. It coincides with so much of what you are saying. https://www.globalresearch.ca/there-is-no-marshall-plan-for-iraq-the-cruel-legacy-of-americas-war-machine/5664067


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  • Keith Keith, April 24, 2019, 3:54 PM
    JEJASALO- "Democracies progress very slowly." How much time do you spend dreaming up excuses? Our current corporate/fat-cat oligarchy (with elections) is currently undergoing rapid change as militarized neoliberal globalization eviscerates the well-being of the 99% at breakneck speed. Bernie Sanders is a sheepdog who bleats hot air to his Sandernista followers even as he reassures the Zionists who own the Democratic Party that he will give 100% support to their agenda and not to worry about what he says. Bernie Sanders is the embodiment of his initials and Phil's article is making much ado about nothing.


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  • Steve Macklevore Steve Macklevore, April 24, 2019, 3:53 PM
    I'm curious, David. What are you doing tactically or strategically to further the Palestinian cause in a substantive way?


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 2:31 PM
    I've have all of them together thanks. The longer the name the more attention it gets.


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  • Rusty Pipes Rusty Pipes, April 24, 2019, 2:29 PM
    When Howard Dean used the term "evenhanded" fifteen years ago, he was labeled an anti-Semite and relegated to the fringe of the party. When Sanders uses the term today, he is smack dab in the middle of party members. He is certainly to the left of Establishment politicians and their donors and to the right of his hard-core supporters, especially the younger ones. But average liberal Democrats who get their info from the MSM and are too wrapped up in Russiagate to pay much attention to foreign policy are just feeling safe enough on the topic of Israel to weigh in against Netanyahu and the Israeli Right. Bernie's calling for evenhandedness is still to the left of the Liberal Zionist stance of the rest of the contenders.


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  • eljay eljay, April 24, 2019, 2:23 PM
    || Jon66: “Consequences would seem to make controversial views not OK to have.” You have to distinguish between a persons right to speak freely and the consequences of that speech. … || If it is OK to have a view that is controversial, there shouldn't be a consequence to having it. A consequence implies that having that controversial view is not OK. || … “You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs.” No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: “That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?” I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!” Patton Oswald || Being told that your controversial view is "fucking stupid" is not a consequence. Being fired and then blackballed for your controversial view is a consequence and it very clearly indicates that it is not OK for you to have that controversial view.


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  • David Green David Green, April 24, 2019, 1:20 PM
    Not to be trollish, but let's listen critically to what these speakers have to say, and evaluate whether they are really doing anything tactically or strategically to further the Palestinian cause in a substantive way. I suspect the answer will be "no."


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  • Jon66 Jon66, April 24, 2019, 1:18 PM
    “Consequences would seem to make controversial views not OK to have.” You have to distinguish between a persons right to speak freely and the consequences of that speech. “You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs." No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: "That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?" I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!” Patton Oswald


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  • wondering jew wondering jew, April 24, 2019, 1:17 PM
    It is not clear what bibi has in mind. If he can pass legislation protecting him from prosecution during the time of his service as prime minister, then he has a long future, if not it would seem that his time is much more limited. if he wishes to leave a legacy maybe annexation makes sense, since the legacy in the other direction (peace/withdrawal) seems not to be available or the way he wants to go. Begin withdrew from Sinai. Shamir left no lasting legacy. rabin signed oslo. ehud barak withdrew from lebanon. sharon withdrew (incompletely) from gaza. olmert attempted a peace legacy, but his time was limited. netanyahu has had plenty of time and so far no lasting legacy. annexation is implied as his legacy (perpetuation of the status quo on the west bank leads to that conclusion), why not make his legacy explicit? the implication of annexation in any official form on the west bank will be that annexation of the total of the west bank is implied but avoided in order to disallow citizenship/the right to vote for the residents. so any annexation implies total annexation implies the point of protest to be the right to vote. voices urging israeli withdrawal will persist, but to follow the logic of israeli policy will be to demand the vote.


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  • eljay eljay, April 24, 2019, 1:12 PM
    || … The letter is here. … || … These activists' antisemitic expressions include charges that Jewish Americans are more loyal to Israel than America … That's true only if one anti-Semitically conflates all Jew(ish American)s with Israel and Zionism and Israel and Zionism with all Jew(ish American)s. Which is what Zionists routinely do. … calls for the elimination of the Jewish state … Nothing wrong with that. "Jewish State" is a religion-supremacist construct and no state has a right to exist as any sort of supremacist construct. … comparisons of Israelis to Nazis … That statement implies that all Israelis are compared to Nazis and that's a deliberate lie. Israelis (and non-Israelis) that do act like Nazis deserve to be compared to Nazis. If the comparison hurts their feelings, they should stop acting like Nazis. … and other false and defamatory accusations about Israel and Israel’s supporters that draw on classic antisemitic tropes. … Terrorism, ethnic cleansing, military occupation, colonialism, oppression, torture and murder are (war) crimes. The fact that supremacist Jews are advocating, committing, supporting and/or defending these (war) crimes doesn't transform them into "antisemitic tropes". There seems to be no length to which Zionists will not go in order to undermine human rights and international laws and the protections they are meant to afford all people including Jews. Why do Zionists insist on hating Jews so much?!


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  • Jejasalo Jejasalo, April 24, 2019, 12:08 PM
    I think naming a “neighborhood” on the Golan Heights after Donald Trump is a great idea. Archaeologists of the (possible) future will be able to trace some of the relics of greater Israel back to the tar pits of D.C.; radioactive waste in Judea and Samaria will be compatible with that found in Moscow, Pyongyang, and Tehran. Its origins will be discovered in Death Valley, NV - which, by then, will be a literal (if undisclosed) post-apocalyptic location.


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  • Jejasalo Jejasalo, April 24, 2019, 11:54 AM
    Donaldton Pussygrabville Bigly Heights Kiryat Ivanka Supreme White Grove Chosen J. City Kibbutz Narcissus ... the possibilities are endless


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  • Jejasalo Jejasalo, April 24, 2019, 11:41 AM
    What I find most irksome in these attempts at shutting down panels of speakers defending Palestinian Rights is the notion of them being “one-sided.” It’s OK for college campuses, msm outlets, our elected and non-elected politicians, and so-called ‘experts’ to present the ‘pro-Israel’ side [for decades] as if it is the Truth — but then when people begin to push back against this ideology the Truth-Keepers become hysterical with accusations of “divisiveness”, of “one-sidedness,” or “having an unbalanced presentation.” —As if the other side hasn’t been the only one we’ve been taught since birth. Palestinian Rights champions *are* the other side. Give us the microphone for awhile. These pathetic attacks make me think of an amusing anecdote: I once brought Noam Chomsky to campus to speak about Operation Cast Lead that had taken place in Gaza earlier that year. The *Human Rights* chair refused to have his department co-sponsor the event because it was ‘one sided.’ If we were going to bring Noam Chomsky to speak, he complained, then we should - to be fair - bring in Alan Dershowitz as well. He was serious, of course. Chomsky commented during his talk that if we were going to bring Alan Dershowitz to speak then we should invite Osama Bin Laden, too, to make it balanced. The audience loved it.


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  • Rashers2 Rashers2, April 24, 2019, 11:37 AM
    I MUST be missing something here: the USA, having unilaterally and - to date - alone withdrawn from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPoA ,the Lausanne Permanent Accord on Iran-nuclear), is instructing inter alia the world’s second-largest economy with the world’s largest (still, just) populace; and a large, developed economy with a population almost identical in size to Iran’s that is strategically situated where Europe segues into Asia and vice versa, to tear up (or, in Turkey’s case because it wasn’t a signatory, ignore) the JCPoA AND, in so doing, cause severe damage to these countries’ own economies, not to mention effectively bankrupting another signatory to the JCPoA, Iran, thereby turning some 80 million people into starving, seriously aggrieved potential refugees. Have I correctly understood the import of Pompeo’s announcement? Logically, the US Diktat on Iranian oil imports should be able to be neutralised if any or all of China, Russia (another signatory to the JCPoA), Turkey and the other countries affected by this illegitimate attempted embargo simply turned round and said, ”Sorry, Mr. Pompeo, this is none of your business. Stick your imperial extra-territorialism where the sun doesn’t shine.” One of the USA’s motives appears to be to elicit from Iran a reaction which could justify a military intervention by the USA and (perhaps..) its regional “allies”, resulting in untold death and destruction; and culminating in régime change. In the event of the Iranians’ not rising to this provocation but continuing to exercise restraint, however, it is entirely plausible – if shocking - that the pretext for military aggression will be arranged through (another) “false flag” incident or succession of incidents, which the infallible US intelligence services will trace immediately and beyond reasonable doubt to Tehran. In the scheme of things, this is big deal: the crisis the USA has created could escalate quickly and lead to conflict, possibly extending beyond the region. There are some questions begging, to which the MSM everywhere should (but aren’t) urgently be seeking answers, “Cui bono?” being the most obvious such. And who DOES stand to benefit from a major regional or global war over Iran? a) KSA: obvious economic benefits to its oil industry by stabilising a manufactured supply imbalance at higher prices; consolidates its position as dominant Middle Eastern producer; eliminates only serious rival for regional economic and political influence. b) USA: economic benefits from crisis of its own creation as a major exporter of oil; US MIC - always benefits from wars fought by USA, irrespective of outcomes; conforms with the personal, evangelical beliefs of Pompeo, Pence, Bolton et al. concerning the ultimate destiny of humanity and the necessity to protect and preserve a Jewish colonial occupation of Palestine*. c) Israel: eliminates political and military influence of Hezbollah in not one but two Northern neighbours, thereby paving the way for (further) territorial expansion and neutralising potentially hostile opposition to this; removes any potential, real or imagined, for the emergence of a second nuclear-armed power in the region; all, quite possibly, at the cost to it of not a single body-bag. Any Biblical considerations aside, it is quite difficult to see how either a) or c) or even a combination of both, brings the USA direct benefits sufficient to justify another foreign war for the USA, with all its attendant popularity risks. * Can’t someone tell these bastards that, as far as they’re concerned, all the Armageddon sh*t is exactly that – they’re already condemned to Hell for all eternity?


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  • Maximus Decimus Meridius Maximus Decimus Meridius, April 24, 2019, 11:28 AM
    Anti semitism is a crime in Britain. Has this Joe Goldberg taken his complaints to the police? If not, why not?


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  • Jejasalo Jejasalo, April 24, 2019, 11:06 AM
    Oldgezer, Blanket labels of “racist” and “fascist” don’t work very well either in political debates or in op-eds. Your response reads like a scream of rage rather than a reasoned argument. I used to be the one ranting about Israel’s crimes but have found it backfires. Better to arm yourself with statistics, facts, history, and a tone of voice that does not instantly alienate the people you’d like to influence.


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  • Jejasalo Jejasalo, April 24, 2019, 10:48 AM
    Good Lord, Keith — Welcome to US electoral politics. Sanders *has* to say what he said if he wants even the slightest shot at the presidency. If you want him to start railing about Israel as an apartheid, settler colonial state (which it is) he would have to include the US in order to be consistent or end his presidential bid today. Even if he’s not consistent it’s better to try to get unsecured votes than allowing the undecided electorate to join the evangelical Zionists on the far right. Politics is an ugly game but it’s where we are. A majority of American voters will not vote for a man who condemns Israel and all US ties to it. Democracies progress very slowly. We’re stuck with that unless you’d rather we did away with the constitution.


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  • James Canning James Canning, April 24, 2019, 10:42 AM
    Pass the sick bag. Trump's fostering of continuing gross breeches of international law by Israel is not a good thing for the US or Israel.


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  • James Canning James Canning, April 24, 2019, 10:39 AM
    Suppressing free speech in the US (and elsewhere) is core element of the annexationist program by Israel in the occupied West Bank and Golan Heights.


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 24, 2019, 10:38 AM
    How about Mushroom Hill? That's an appropriate name. That photograph of Crooked Bibi and Sara, and their racist sons, should be captioned "getting away with war crimes, corruption, racism, and homophobia: "Olmert’s son lashes Netanyahu’s son for ‘racist, homophobic’ Facebook post Ariel Olmert mocks Yair Netanyahu’s lavish lifestyle, becomes latest to threaten to sue prime minister’s offspring The son of former prime minister Ehud Olmert hit back at fellow son of a prime minister Yair Netanyahu and threatened to take him to court for slander in a Facebook tirade. In a Facebook post responding to Netanyahu, who on Tuesday asked why other sons of prime ministers weren’t scrutinized, Ariel Olmert criticized Netanyahu for his lavish lifestyle and threatened to sue him for “disseminating false, racist and homophobic slurs.” Arrogance must run in the family.


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 10:19 AM
    I'm all for people trying to become very Jewish without being very zionist. There still would be a significant tribal factor and that has its downsides, but individualist humanism is only suitable for a minority, and even they are not as individualist as they like to think.


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 24, 2019, 9:47 AM
    @HarryLaw, et. al. Most relevant interview: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/u-s-foreign-policy-is-unraveling-in-real-time/ "U.S. Foreign Policy Is Unraveling in Real Time" Truthdig, April 23/19 EXCERPT: "What follows is a conversation between Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson and Marc Steiner of the Real News Network. Read a transcript of their conversation below or watch the video at the bottom of the post. MARC STEINER: "Welcome to The Real News Network. I’m Marc Steiner. Great to have you all with us. Trump is stepping up his campaign against Iran once again, announcing that he will end waivers that allowed eight countries to continue importing Iranian oil. He wants to drive Iranian oil exports to zero. All this comes on the heels of officially labeling the Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization and of course, forcing the U.S. to unilaterally pull out of the Iran Nuclear Deal. Well what course are we on? Are we inching toward a war with Iran? Are these intensified sanctions just an alternative to all-out war? How could the U.S. just unilaterally impose international sanctions? Doesn’t that violate international law? Can he do it because the U.S. has a vital role in the international system of finance? Both Turkey and China have already announced they will not abide by Trump’s unilateral declaration of sanctions. Does this intensify our trade war with China? We’ll see. Joining us here at The Real News once again is Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as Chief-of-staff to U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, retired from U.S. Army, and is now Distinguished Adjunct Professor at the College of William and Mary where he teaches U.S. National Security. I welcome and good to have you back with us here on The Real News. "COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON Good to be back again."


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  • eljay eljay, April 24, 2019, 9:33 AM
    || Misterioso: @eljay Also, a “proposed train station near Jerusalem’s Western Wall…” is to bear Trump’s name. Hubris, hubris, hubris!! || Only the best for Mr. Trump! And he thought being "Grand Marshal of the Israeli Day Parade" was awesome.


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 24, 2019, 9:26 AM
    @scott9854958, et al Meanwhile, just published: "Stories of Personal Transformation. Reclaiming Judaism from Zionism" by Carolyn L. Karcher "In this powerful collection of personal narratives, forty Jews of diverse backgrounds tell a wide range of stories about the roads they have traveled from a Zionist world view to activism in solidarity with Palestinians and Israelis striving to build an inclusive society founded on justice, equality, and peaceful coexistence. "Reclaiming Judaism from Zionism will be controversial. Its contributors welcome the long overdue public debate. They want to demolish stereotypes of dissenting Jews as 'self-hating,' traitorous, and anti-Semitic. They want to introduce readers to the large and growing community of Jewish activists who have created organizations such as Jewish Voice for Peace, IfNotNow, and Open Hillel. They want to strengthen alliances with progressives of all faiths. Above all, they want to nurture models of Jewish identity that replace ethnic exclusiveness with solidarity, Zionism with a Judaism once again nourished by a transcendent ethical vision." "Contributors include: Joel Beinin • Sami Shalom Chetrit • Ilise Benshushan Cohen • Marjorie Cohn • Rabbi Michael Davis • Hasia R. Diner • Marjorie N. Feld • Chris Godshall • Ariel Gold • Noah Habeeb • Claris Harbon • Linda Hess • Rabbi Linda Holtzman • Yael Horowitz • Carolyn L. Karcher • Mira Klein • Sydney Levy • Ben Lorber • Shoshana Madmoni-Gerber • Carly Manes • Moriah Ella Mason • Seth Morrison • Eliza Rose Moss-Horwitz • Hilton Obenzinger • Henri Picciotto • Ned Rosch • Rabbi Brant Rosen • Alice Rothchild • Tali Ruskin • Cathy Lisa Schneider • Natalia Dubno Shevin • Ella Shohat • Emily Siegel • Rebecca Subar • Cecilie Surasky • Rebecca Vilkomerson • Jordan Wilson-Dalzell • Rachel Winsberg • Rabbi Alissa Wise • Charlie Wood." "Carolyn L. Karcher is professor emerita of English, American Studies, and Women’s Studies at Temple University and the author of many books and articles about the struggle for racial and gender equality in the U.S." Many thanks and best wishes, Michel Michel Moushabeck Publisher/Editor Interlink Publishing 46 Crosby Street Northampton, MA 01060 e-mail: [email protected] website: www.interlinkbooks.com


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  • pabelmont pabelmont, April 24, 2019, 9:10 AM
    Sen sanders is too cautious, presumably partly because he is some kind of Zionist and partly out of awareness of USA politics. Still, he is (among others) opening a "window" of criticism of Israel -- and with him it appears likely to avoid smear of antisemitism, but we'll see) -- and this is wonderful. One could wish the criticism was more complete and explicit, but perhaps in politics small steps are the way to begin a long process.


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 24, 2019, 9:04 AM
    A brief look at the Zionist shyster Dennis Ross: With President Clinton's approval, Dennis Ross, the egotistical loyal servant of "Israel," did a real hatchet job on Arafat during the 2000 Camp David Summit: "[He] actually worked with an Israeli negotiator in the middle of the night before the summit collapsed to draft Clinton's 'blame speech,' casting Arafat as the bad guy and Barak as the courageous risk-taker.... [Ross also] spent four hours with [Colin] Powell during the transition and reportedly told the incoming secretary of state not to believe a word Arafat said because he was 'a con man’." (Kathleen Christison, "Camp David Redux," http://www.counterpunch.com/christison08152005.html)


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 24, 2019, 8:51 AM
    @eljay Also, a "proposed train station near Jerusalem’s Western Wall..." is to bear Trump's name. Hubris, hubris, hubris!!


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 24, 2019, 8:46 AM
    Netanyahu and Trump: Two murderous, thieving fascists join arms. Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban are overcome with glee. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2019/Apr-23/481736-israel-to-name-new-town-on-golan-after-trump-netanyahu.ashx "Israel to name new town on Golan after Trump: Netanyahu" Lebanon's Daily Star, April 23/19 Reuters: GOLAN HEIGHTS: "Israel said Tuesday it would name a new community on the Golan Heights after U.S. President Donald Trump as an expression of gratitude for his recognition of its claim of sovereignty over the strategic plateau. "'All Israelis were deeply moved when President Trump made his historic decision,' Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a video statement made on the Golan. "He added that, after the Jewish Passover festival, he would 'bring to the government a resolution calling for a new community on the Golan Heights named after President Donald J. Trump.' "Trump's Golan move followed his decision in December 2017 to recognize occupied Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, breaking with decades of U.S. policy over the status of a city. "Israel has said separately that, in appreciation of the U.S. president, it intends to name a proposed train station near Jerusalem's Western Wall after him."


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 8:41 AM
    Maxime Chaix provides a very good timeline and Narwani is a good source. Note - https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/an-arms-pipeline-to-the-syrian-rebels.html shows weapons are not flown in in 2011, and it takes a while in 2012 to start up - libyan weapons arrive with ships, not planes, and starting from october 2011 on for about a year - Narwani points out that the numbers killed in the first year show half of them are Syrian security, and 92% is male, with considerable numbers right from the start. So to what extent the violence in the first 6 months is indigeneous? And what counts as local if the brotherhood is linked to Qatar?


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  • eljay eljay, April 24, 2019, 8:37 AM
    || Jon66: I have never advocated for censorship. … || I didn't say you had. || … I am a strong supporter of free speech. … || That's good. So it's OK to have controversial views. || … I do think that the speech may have consequences. … || Consequences would seem to make controversial views not OK to have.


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  • HarryLaw HarryLaw, April 24, 2019, 7:49 AM
    "When I asked a CENTCOM [U.S. Central Command] spokesman in 2015 why so many U.S. weapons supplied to their trainee fighters were showing up in al–Qaida’s hands, he actually said: “We don’t ‘command and control’ these forces. We just ‘train and equip’ them.” https://www.salon.com/2019/04/21/reporter-sharmine-narwani-on-the-secret-history-of-americas-defeat-in-syria/


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  • Jon66 Jon66, April 24, 2019, 7:29 AM
    I have never advocated for censorship. I am a strong supporter of free speech. I do think that the speech may have consequences. If a doctor, for example, threatens to give the medications to Jews, then she may be fired. https://jewishjournal.com/news/nation/296196/kern-medical-center-withdraws-offer-to-fired-ohio-doc-who-tweeted-she-would-give-jews-the-wrong-meds/


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  • Maximus Decimus Meridius Maximus Decimus Meridius, April 24, 2019, 7:26 AM
    @Erik I agree completely. I believe Norman Finkelstein, in these very pages, has said that the very fact that the media has so enthusiastically jumped on the anti semitism bandwagon is proof that anti semitism is not a major problem in Britain. If it was, then it wouldn't be very useful as a smear, as a good proportion of the population could be expected to not consider anti semitism anything to be ashamed of. As for your question, I guess part of the answer lies in the above, part in the right-wing bias of the media, incl the BBC, and part because the media, too, are terrified of being labelled anti-semitic. Remember Jon Snow and how he and Channel 4 News were one of the few voices in the mainstream media that didn't fall entirely in line? Well, now they're no different from Sky News or the BBC. Like I said below, the sad reality is that smear campaigns work.


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  • Maximus Decimus Meridius Maximus Decimus Meridius, April 24, 2019, 7:22 AM
    I've been watching this brewing for quite some time. Didn't that embassy goon in the leaked documentary say something about how the aim was to make Britain more like America? Sadly, it looks as though they are succeeding. The relentless 4 year long smear campaign against Corbyn is a template to be followed in Washington. Nobody with any political ambitions will dare issue any but the most anodyne criticisms of Zionism, for fear of being called a you-know-what and having to spend the next year 'clarifying' and 'apologising'. Even Corbyn has backed down considerably. Smear campaigns work. That's the sad reality.


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 7:18 AM
    and driven out all the Arabs. and when they have broken up the region into many small backward fragments which are at war with each other, not to forget. Then they will know true peace. Maybe.


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 7:15 AM
    Elijah Magnier reports that Nasrallah said there is a high chance of war with Israel and that it would start with an attack on the leadership. In other words, they start the war when they can kill him.


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  • HarryLaw HarryLaw, April 24, 2019, 6:28 AM
    CENTCOM did support terrorists in Syria Listen to Professor Jeffrey Sachs explain to a panel of guests how operation ‘Timber Sycamore worked in this must see Jimmy Dore show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk Also this... Operation Timber Sycamore is a clandestine operation, and such campaigns are not owned up to by those sponsoring them — at least, not typically. In this case, however, the operation has become one of such magnitude over time that Western powers have had to communicate something about it, albeit misleadingly. That is to say, succor to jihadist groups has long been described by Western government spokesmen as “non-lethal support” for so-called “moderate” rebels, yet the reality on the ground is that the “moderate rebel force” that is the Free Syria Army (FSA) has served as a pool of fighters, weapons and ammunition for the anti-Assad jihadist nebula, whose tacticians and militiamen were much more effective than the FSA itself. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/how-cia-allies-helped-jihadists-syria-french-covert-ops-expert-exposes-new-details


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  • HarryLaw HarryLaw, April 24, 2019, 5:54 AM
    Those other counties have to realize what is at stake here, others like Germany have been put on notice by Trumps Ambassador not to trade with Iran, not to buy Russian gas [Nord stream 2] and to double its NATO expenditures to 2% of GDP immediately, then to 4% later, these are crazy sums of money [Germany’s GDP is over 4 Trillion dollars, to defend themselves against who precisely? Turkey and India have been threatened because they want to buy the S400 anti aircraft systems from Russia, all in all the US are threatening everyone, unfortunately for the US all that needs to happen is for one strong state to defy [successfully] the Empire, then unless the Empire can enforce its will, it’s all over, US credibility would be shot, [rather like the Mafia who are defied by one shopkeeper in a large complex.] The US “allowed eight countries to import Iranian crude oil without being subject to U.S. sanctions which would expire on May 2 without extension. The eight countries included are China, India, Turkey, South Korea, Japan, Greece, Italy and Taiwan. This move is an extraordinarily foolish and reckless act which illustrates the extreme hubris and short-sightedness of those running American foreign policy under Trump. What the U.S. is decreeing to the entire world with this action is that the U.S., and the U.S. alone, decides who gets to trade with who. The U.S. is telling China, the second largest economy in the world and home to over one billion people, that it lacks the sovereign authority to buy oil from Iran if it so desires. If the U.S. can unilaterally play boss on the trade decisions of foreign countries, national sovereignty does not exist in practice anywhere on the planet. There is only empire.” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/trump-administrations-iran-policy-will-hasten-imperial-decline


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  • johneill johneill, April 24, 2019, 4:43 AM
    from their perspective, jews are the indigenous people, and words like 'equality' and 'human rights' are the cloak through which their self-determination is being threatened. that 'self-determination' depends on colonization and human rights abuses is indeed beyond their reckoning.


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 24, 2019, 4:33 AM
    Roger Waters was always politically alert. It's not just about being outspoken. I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality of Waters's insights.


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  • zaid zaid, April 24, 2019, 1:33 AM
    The USA is by far the worst country on earth


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  • Marnie Marnie, April 24, 2019, 12:05 AM
    "The University of Massachusetts is coming under pressure locally to shut the forum down. The Anti Defamation League wrote to the UMass chancellor that the event is a threat to “Jewish students’ sense of belonging, as well as their sense of safety and security on campus.” Could the ADL needs to define this threat to jewish students' sense of belonging and to where they belong? They're attending school in the u.s. and presumably these are american citizens so what pray tell are they being threatened with - deportation? Loss of citizenship? Is the ADL so feckless that any movement that includes palestinians is going to upset the fragile constitution of american jewish college students that any and all talk of palestinian resistance must be stopped? If there was nothing to hide and if israel were indeed a democracy israel would be fighting tooth and nail to have and even host events like these to prove they are not the bloody murderers, thieves, rapists, etc., that they are being accused of being. But.....they can't do that because what they're accused of and what has been documented over 70+ years proves they are bloody murderers, thieves, rapists, etc.


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  • wondering jew wondering jew, April 23, 2019, 11:22 PM
    "(thousands maimed and 260 killed in nonviolent protests in Gaza stemming from his Jerusalem move). " To assert that the protests in Gaza stemmed from Trump's Jerusalem move would be accurate on the day of the greatest death toll, but this phrase blames the entirety of the protests on Trump's Jerusalem move and this is not accurate historically and therefore inaccurate journalism.


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  • umm al-hamam umm al-hamam, April 23, 2019, 11:15 PM
    This is Israel after all so it'll be something like "Kfar Trump" or "Qiryat Trump". And probably one of his sons (by total coincidence, unrelated to any political considerations) will build a golf course and luxury hotel complex there—the Trump International Tower & Casino Golan Heights—which will end up in massive amounts of debt and under multiple lawsuits from contractors who haven't been paid, and the Israeli mob will also become involved somehow. I personally can't wait.


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  • jrg jrg, April 23, 2019, 10:38 PM
    For anyone who doubts the reality of anti-Semitism (as opposed to anti-Zionism) in the British Labor Party, see this one excerpt from Prof. Johnson's report: Example 18: Two Jewish Labour Councillors in Haringey resigned, saying it had become impossible to do their jobs due to overwhelming antisemitic abuse. Joe Goldberg and Natan Doron reported that ‘many members have repeated to me assertions about Jews having big noses, controlling the media and being wealthy’, and that a fellow councillor accused Goldberg of ‘bagel-barrel politics’. On his resignation, a Haringey Momentum activist tweeted to Goldberg: ‘At least [you] will have more time to count your money.’ Mr. Goldberg said complaints he made to Labour Party officials were dismissed.


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  • RoHa RoHa, April 23, 2019, 9:20 PM
    So now CENTCOM is offically a terrorist organization.


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  • RoHa RoHa, April 23, 2019, 9:17 PM
    I'm sure that most Israeli Jews do want peace, after they have grabbed a bit more of Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan, and driven out all the Arabs.


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 23, 2019, 8:48 PM
    You are right, there are none. Not one voice from that lot talks of peace, or ending the occupation. They all seem to want the same thing. It is crystal clear. The US has the power to change all that, but unfortunately goes along with their crimes. Presently they are punishing the victims by cutting off their miserable aid, adding insult to injury.


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  • CigarGod CigarGod, April 23, 2019, 8:25 PM
    Exactly, they want an Israeli to give the Palestinian point of view, an American Jew to give the American Palestinian position, a Settler to give the Israeli position, and a soldier with and eye patch to give the Hamas position. Sort of the same template NPR uses...and gets away with every day. Those who commented on the rise of the World Wrestling spectacle many years ago, were prophets on the rise of the lunatics among us. Who knew, they would call themselves Jews. Well, Jerry Springer knew.


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 7:55 PM
    Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said today he plans to name a settlement in the Golan Heights after President Donald Trump ... TrumpCity Orangeville Trumpburg Trump Heights Megalomania Megalopolis Munawesomepality (The Greatest City Ever Built, Trust Me)


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 7:48 PM
    || Jon66: Can someone call Oren, Barkat, Hirsi Ali and others and let them know that it’s apparently OK to have a view that is controversial? || Are all controversial views OK? Or are less-than-flattering views of the past and on-going evils of Zionism and its "Jewish State" construct still taboo?


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 7:30 PM
    || HarryLaw: We are entering the US end game in the Middle East, sanctioning Iranian oil by threatening other countries with secondary sanctions is contrary to International law, in fact it is an act of war in itself ... Everything depends on China and Russia plus those other countries who must decide whether to continue Iranian oil purchases ... || With the U.S. wallowing around at the bottom of the morality barrel with Israel, Saudi Arabia, Mali, African "hellholes", etc., everything should depend on those other countries who must decide that international laws and human rights are worth upholding. So...where the hell are they and when will they step up and do what's right?


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  • William3 William3, April 23, 2019, 7:16 PM
    Just a side note: Roger Waters and David Gilmour didn’t get along for years after Roger left Pink Floyd after the Final Cut. Despite the old wounds however they did play together for Palestine in 2010. David is not as outspoken as Roger but he knows right from wrong and I thank them both: https://youtu.be/eCq5wtSO-qI


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  • William3 William3, April 23, 2019, 7:05 PM
    I’ve concluded after seeing the rabidness with which the pro Israel folk act whenever an event like this is planned that it’s truly not about an outrage over “anit-Jewishness” at all rather that they are looking in the mirror and being honest with themselves at which point they realize the history they are defending has been one of utter depravity and evil toward the indigenous population but they refuse to let their conscience allow truth to prevail. Maybe I’m wrong but there has to be some reason for such mouth foaming over a discussion about the struggle for human rights..


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  • HarryLaw HarryLaw, April 23, 2019, 6:49 PM
    We are entering the US end game in the Middle East, sanctioning Iranian oil by threatening other countries with secondary sanctions is contrary to International law, in fact it is an act of war in itself, which if it was implemented could cause Iran economic collapse with millions of deaths and refugees flooding the EU, I say this because Iran will never negotiate with the US regime who constantly move the goalposts at the behest of its allies Israel and Saudi Arabia, also they have too much self respect to prostrate themselves before an enemy that will not be satisfied until it is totally disarmed and regime changed. Everything depends on China and Russia plus those other countries who must decide whether to continue Iranian oil purchases, in the case of Russia as with China, because oil is fungible they can buy Iranian oil at a discount and then sell to the rest of the world at a good profit. The Iranians can make a good case that if they cannot sell their oil, then non of the Gulfies should be able to either. Mining the Strait of Hormus, or threatening to, could send the price of oil through the roof or make it impossible to insure tankers making the journey, the same effect could be achieved by some terrorist group bombing the Saudi Ras Tanura oil terminal, where most Saudi oil is dispatched from. US bases in the region could be at risk as well as the fleet in Bahrain, Israel and Saudi Arabia would be happy to see US servicemen alone do the dirty work and reap the economic consequences, but their own economic existence would be severely threatened, for these reasons I hope the US threats are neutralized otherwise the region will be enveloped in war, and if Russia and China stand by Iran as they should, knowing they will be next, a possibly WW3 scenario.


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  • Jon66 Jon66, April 23, 2019, 6:22 PM
    Can someone call Oren, Barkat, Hirsi Ali and others and let them know that it’s apparently OK to have a view that is controversial?


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  • Jon66 Jon66, April 23, 2019, 6:08 PM
    OG, “ is not a criminal act it’s an act for which Palestinians are at a high risk of extrajudicial murder by the criminal rogue state of Israel.” Can you define ‘high risk’? What % of Palestinians involved in car accidents with Israelis shot? With regards to the car accidents, neither you, Phil, nor I know if was intentional or an accident. But Phil chooses to frame motor vehicle accidents with different headlines.


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  • ckg ckg, April 23, 2019, 6:03 PM
    McCollum's bill died when Congress adjourned in December and the bill had not yet been passed. If AOC were serious she would reintroduce it in the current Congress. It's pointless for a representative to praise a dead bill without resurrecting it. It's also misleading.


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  • Keith Keith, April 23, 2019, 6:02 PM
    PHIL- (Sander's quote)- “I am 100 percent pro-Israel, Israel has every right in the world to exist...." Exist as a Jewish state, not as a state of all of its citizens? 100 percent pro-Israel? Good lord, Phil, this is a partisan attack against Netanyahu/Trump without any substance. This is hot air masquerading as tough talk. Bernie is just doing what sheepdogs do.


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  • Tuyzentfloot Tuyzentfloot, April 23, 2019, 5:56 PM
    Many people were supporting the Syrian uprising. I think it was reasonable to see it as one more instance of the Arab Spring, and even to some extent justified. There was also a very violent component to the uprising from the start (well hidden for us)and there were outside players very eager to ruin the country(unclear what their role was in the first six months) It's not easy to figure out how to handle this.


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  • HarryLaw HarryLaw, April 23, 2019, 5:53 PM
    A new settlement called 'Dotard'.


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  • Keith Keith, April 23, 2019, 5:45 PM
    DAVID GREEN- " Of course this panel will be lacking in substance, except perhaps for the moderator." I am not so sure. Roger Waters seems both knowledgeable and persuasive on several topics. Below I link to a recent impressive interview he did regarding the arrest of Julian Assange. Roger Waters interview on Assange: http://thesaker.is/roger-waters-julian-assange-arrest-proves-uk-is-a-satellite-state-of-us-empire/


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  • Elizabeth Block Elizabeth Block, April 23, 2019, 5:19 PM
    People sometimes tell me that most Israeli Jews want peace. In that case, why is it that no Israeli politician who is willing to do what is necessary to make peace has a chance of being elected? In fact, I'm not sure there are any such Israeli politicians any more. The election was between two war criminals. What's to choose?


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  • Elizabeth Block Elizabeth Block, April 23, 2019, 5:14 PM
    I attend Toronto Quaker meeting. (Yes, there are Jewish Quakers!) Quakers are quite capable of speaking for themselves. And I'm happy to tell you that on Friday there will be a Liberation [= anti-Zionist] Seder at Toronto Quaker House. Several years ago the late Hajo Meier, a Holocaust survivor, was on a speaking tour. His topic: "Never Again For Anyone." No mainstream Jewish organization in Toronto would give him a platform. He spoke at the Winchevsky Centre (secular Jews) and at Quaker House. I wear a button that says "Never Again for Anyone" and another that says "Never Again BY Anyone." It would be wonderful to have Tom Suarez speak here.


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  • Tom Suarez Tom Suarez, April 23, 2019, 3:50 PM
    When I spoke at UMass Amherst in 2017, three professors organized a (failed) campaign to block me, quoting two UK saboteurs as their "sources" about what I would say. After I spoke without incident, the reporter who wrote about my talk for the University paper, the Daily Collegian, had not bothered to attend. He "knew" what I had said through the same UK saboteurs. https://dailycollegian.com/2017/09/the-anti-semitism-of-the-suarez-talk-is-not-the-way-to-discuss-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/


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  • Rusty Pipes Rusty Pipes, April 23, 2019, 3:27 PM
    Maybe Roger could have a little talk with Linda about Syria backstage. Many of us are still disappointed in her cheerleading days back when she was the successful fundraiser for an Arab American organization in Brooklyn.


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 23, 2019, 2:13 PM
    They dish out, but cannot take it. They are definitely racists, and their apartheid policies show that.


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 23, 2019, 2:12 PM
    Netanyahu sure knows how to thank the orange narcissistic chump, for the gifts he bestowed on Israel, just before the elections. Brown nosing, Bibi style: Netanyahu Wants Israel To Name New Town On Golan Heights After Trump The prime minister said “all Israelis were deeply moved” when Trump recognized Israeli sovereignty there. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/netanyahu-trump-golan-heights_n_5cbf347be4b0315683fdaf25


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 1:53 PM
    … the Peace and Tolerance group has said Jews have a religious duty going back to Moses to prevent a gathering of anti-Semites … I look forward to P&T working diligently to prevent gatherings of Zionists who routinely and anti-Semitically conflate Zionism and Israel with all Jews and all Jews with Zionism and Israel.


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 23, 2019, 1:53 PM
    Well said Senator Sanders. Apart from Netanyahu's apartheid policies, we now know it to be absolutely right - he aligned with Jewish terrorists to run for re-election. What more proof does anyone need. I hope the others have the courage to take his cue, and speak out.


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  • annie annie, April 23, 2019, 1:40 PM
    "the Peace and Tolerance group has said Jews have a religious duty going back to Moses to prevent a gathering of anti-Semites" they've become hysterical


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  • oldgeezer oldgeezer, April 23, 2019, 1:36 PM
    Israeli supporters are not only racists but fascists. A two bit state that can't handle one bit of criticism. Not a democracy by any rational measure and a light unto racists and ethno nationalist racist groups everywhere


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  • David Green David Green, April 23, 2019, 1:35 PM
    Of course this circus will happen. Of course we will continue to be distracted by this circus without actually talking seriously about the issues of occupation, militarism, etc. Of course Linda Sarsour will use this opportunity to be a Palestinian-American opportunist who doesn't lift a finger to help the Palestinian people. Of course this panel will be lacking in substance, except perhaps for the moderator. Of course nothing will be gained or lost with this exercise. But at least I can continue to document the stupidity of Sarsour, and perhaps others, with Zirin perhaps being the best chance. Thanks.


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  • JLewisDickerson JLewisDickerson, April 23, 2019, 12:56 PM
    RE: "Moses taught us to intervene to help our fellow Jews. Make your Passover extra kosher: help fight anti-Semitism and help our fellow Jews." ~ Americans for Peace and Tolerance ■ SEE: "For You Were (Not) Slaves in Egypt: The Ancient Memories Behind the Exodus Myth" | By Ariel David | Haaretz.com | Apr 19, 2019 From the expulsion of the Hyksos to Armageddon, the epic Passover saga does not reflect a specific event, but seems to contain distant memories that may give us clues to the real history of the ancient Israelites LINK - https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.MAGAZINE-for-you-were-not-slaves-in-egypt-the-memories-behind-the-exodus-myth-1.7138961


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 12:55 PM
    [email protected] just called the Israeli gov “right wing and racist”. Not only is that bogus … Israel's government may not be "right wing and racist" (not right-wing? really?) but - like all previous Israeli governments- it is colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist. … but this self-loathing Jew who’s trying to score points with anti-semites … Says the Jewish supremacist who's trying to score points with supporters of Jewish / "Jewish State" supremacism. … Bernie = danger for the U.S. & Israel … Zionists like Hikind = danger for all Jews


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  • Kay24 Kay24, April 23, 2019, 12:13 PM
    They are despicable cowards. He will be hailed as a hero, and have a piece of stolen land named after him. The violence against children and young kids, are disgusting. It keeps going on and on, and despite all these tapes, and evidence, America keep acting like it believes that Israel is the victim here, and what you see and hear, is a figment of our imagination. American leaders who see American made weapons being used by killers and terrorists wearing the uniform of the nation supposedly our ally, must have no conscience, nor any decency, when they keep sending more weapons and billions of dollars to these war criminals. Or perhaps they deliberately avoid watching these horror shows, after all they are brown skinned Arabs being shot and killed.


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  • Mooser Mooser, April 23, 2019, 11:36 AM
    Netanyahoo is very close to being indicted.


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  • scott9854958 scott9854958, April 23, 2019, 11:33 AM
    CAMERA claims to want diverse viewpoints? Since when do Zionists embrace debate? Which one of them would go up there on a stage with Sarsour? They wouldn't. One, because they fear it would legitimize her and two, because she might humiliate them. What they want is an all-Zionist panel AND a shutdown of whatever this gathering is.


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 11:06 AM
    || brent: … How to understand Abbas? Trump made it clear his embassy move did not resolve boundaries or sovereignty over Jerusalem. Trump is likely around the rest of Abbas’ time. This is not how to intelligently deal with a super-ego who wants a Nobel and has positioned himself with Israel to deliver. … || I'm curious to know what intelligent deal you believe Abbas can offer to Trump that: - will stroke his super-ego more effectively than Israel is already doing and cause him to distance himself from Israel (to a point of sufficient objectivity); and, at the same time, - won't betray or undermine the Palestinians' moral fight for justice, accountability and equality in I-P.


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  • oldgeezer oldgeezer, April 23, 2019, 10:45 AM
    @brent I can'ty agree that Abbas is being disrespectful towards anyone. The US has never been a fair participant in the process but trump has been uniquely bad in this process. The US has individuals directly involved, and profiting from, the commission of war crimes against the Palestinians. The only disresectful parties here are the GoI and the trump admin. Disresctful to the UN. The UNSC. International law. Every peace loving person anywhere. And most importantly to the Palestinian victims of Israeli crimes for the past 70+ years. Abbas is useless to the Palestinians and has been more of a security employee of Israel but he's right in not providing legitimacy to what is essentially a criminal operation.


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 10:16 AM
    || Ossinev: @emet … Why do you call people “Anti- Semites” before they have been indicted and convicted. … || *mic drop*


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  • oldgeezer oldgeezer, April 23, 2019, 10:13 AM
    @jon No one said a car accident was a criminal act. Colonialists are engaged in a criminal act 24x7. Funny though that while you'll argue a car accident is not a criminal act it's an act for which Palestinians are at a high risk of extrajudicial murder by the criminal rogue state of Israel. It is only right and reasonable that Israelis be given the same standard of doubt as Palestinians. Particularly as these car rammings, hit and runs, etc are a tool frequently employed by the Israeli terrorists on the front line. So as to hold Israelis to the same standard please feel free to attempt to prove the drivers innocence.


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  • Ossinev Ossinev, April 23, 2019, 9:51 AM
    @emet "why do you call him corrupt before he has been indicted and convicted? Of, of course, this is the way of the corrupt Left" Why do you call people "Anti- Semites" before they have been indicted and convicted. Of course this is the way of the warped Ziofreaks.


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  • eljay eljay, April 23, 2019, 9:49 AM
    || Emet: Hey Zogbi, why do you call him corrupt before he has been indicted and convicted? Of, of course, this is the way of the corrupt Left. || Why do you call the Left corrupt before it has been indicted and convicted? Of, of course, this must be a Zionist thing.


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 23, 2019, 9:45 AM
    https://www.lrb.co.uk/2019/04/18/adam-shatz/trumps-america-netanyahus-israel London Review of Books, April 18/19 "Trump’s America, Netanyahu’s Israel" by Adam Shatz** EXCERPTS: "Israel’s legislative elections on 9 April were a tribute to Binyamin Netanyahu’s transformation of the political landscape.​ At no point were they discussed in terms of which candidates might be persuaded by (non-existent) American pressure, or the ‘international community’, to end the occupation. This time it was a question of which party leader could be trusted by Israeli Jews – Palestinian citizens of Israel are now officially second-class – to manage the occupation, and to expedite the various tasks that the Jewish state has mastered: killing Gazans, bulldozing homes, combatting the scourge of BDS, and conflating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. With his promise to annex the West Bank, Netanyahu had won even before the election was held. It wasn’t simply Trump’s recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights that sped the incumbent on his way; it was the nature of the conversation – and the fact that the leader of the opposition was Benny Gantz, the IDF commander who presided over the 2014 ‘Operation Protection Edge’, in which more than 2000 Gazans were killed. "Illusions about the ‘peace process’ – and Israel’s ‘search for peace’ – die hard. The hopes invested in ‘peace’ were once immense, but it has never looked so shaky, even in America, which has underwritten these fictions for decades and rewarded Israel handsomely for paying lip service to them. American liberals no longer lament the fact that Netanyahu has taken Israel off its preordained, conciliatory course, and hope that ‘the left’ might steer it back. There is no left in Israel aside from a few heroic groupuscules. Netanyahu’s Israel – illiberal, exclusionary, racist – is now the political centre. "I used to call myself a non-Zionist, rather than an anti-Zionist: the latter term seemed to traduce the origins of Zionism, which arose as a response to the existential threat to Jewish life in Europe. ‘Anti-Zionism’ overlooked the richness of the debates within early Zionism. The ‘cultural Zionist’ Ahad Ha’am, for example, supported the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, but not a Jewish state, and castigated ‘territorial’ Zionists for imagining that ‘Palestine is a land almost entirely deserted, an uncultivated desert,’ and that ‘the Arabs are desert savages, a people like donkeys, incapable of seeing and understanding what is happening around them. This is a great mistake.’ One of the founders of bi-nationalism – what’s now envisaged as a single state, accommodating both people’s national aspirations – Ha’am considered himself a Zionist. So did the journalist and activist Uri Avnery, one of the fiercest critics of Israel’s wars and occupation, who died last year, aged 94. But these ‘Zionists’ do not represent actually existing Zionism. "In 1948, Hannah Arendt, whose critique of territorial Zionism owed much to Ha’am, warned that after the Arab-Israeli war: 'the ‘victorious’ Jews would live surrounded by a hostile Arab population, secluded inside ever-threatened borders, preoccupied by matters of defence to a degree that would submerge all other interests and activities . . . political thought would centre on military strategy; economic development would be determined exclusively by the needs of war. And all this would be the fate of a nation that – no matter how many immigrants it could still absorb and how far it extended its boundaries . . . would still remain a very small people greatly outnumbered by hostile neighbours.' "Arendt’s prediction was in large part borne out. More remarkable still, few Israelis – or their supporters abroad, among Jews and Evangelicals – fret over this ‘fate’. Arendt’s warning that an expansionist Israel would never realise the dream of Herzl and the founders, and become a ‘normal’ state, has lost its charge because its abnormality is the new normal. Israel now looks more like a pioneer of illiberal, ethnocratic nationalism, a model for the likes of Orbán, Modi and Trump. "Today Israelis see no need to conceal, much less extenuate themselves for, their country’s militarism or racism. In the 1960s and 1970s, Western tourists went to Israel to take part in collective farming on kibbutzim. Police officers and soldiers now go to learn new methods of collective punishment and surveillance. For Europe’s greatest internal victims to have refined the repression of another people into a science is now regarded as an advantage rather than an embarrassing secret, or indeed a tragedy. And with Trump’s help, Zionism’s id has been emancipated from its superego. The Nation-State Law, the American Embassy’s move to Jerusalem, the US president’s recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, a possible annexation of large swathes of the West Bank: all these mark an intensification of what Meron Benvenisti called the ‘Judaisation’ of Israel-Palestine, at the expense of its indigenous inhabitants. Even hummus, tabbouleh, and za‘atar are now proclaimed as ‘Israeli’ specialities." "The extreme character of Israel’s stance vis-à-vis its Arab population can be measured by the Nation-State Law, which explicitly legalises the inequality – officially denied for decades – between Jews and Arabs. The law’s most vociferous critics were not Palestinian citizens of Israel, who have no illusions about the state’s intentions, but the Druze – at 1.5 per cent of Israel’s population, a minority within an Arab minority – who serve in the Israeli military and are seen by many Palestinians as traitors. As Israeli Druze have discovered, to be a non-Jew in Israel, no matter how loyal, is to be less than a full citizen, tolerated at best by the ruling ethnic majority – a ‘pariah’, as Arendt would have said. That Israel has succeeded in creating a new class of pariahs is a curious achievement, given the history of Jews in the West. The impact on Palestinian life, in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, has been enormous. But the perpetrators have also paid a price. In the words of the historian Enzo Traverso, Israel has ‘put an end to Jewish modernity. Diaspora Judaism had been the critical conscience of the Western world; Israel survives as one of its mechanisms of domination.’" "Israel’s ultras inside the Democratic Party have argued, correctly, that support for Israel is not only about donations (‘the Benjamins’) from Jewish supporters of Israel, but about something harder to dislodge: faith. Senator Charles Schumer of New York recently claimed to be acting on divine orders: ‘You know, my name . . . comes from the word shomer, guardian, watcher . . . And I believe Hashem’ – God – ‘actually gave me that name. One of my roles, very important in the United States Senate, is to be . . . a or the shomer Yisrael. And I will continue to be that with every bone in my body.’ Booker is perhaps more alert to the influential role of the Benjamins, but he, too, spoke in the language of faith when he addressed AIPAC: ‘Israel is not political to me . . I was a supporter of Israel well before I was a United States senator . . . If I forget thee, o Israel, may I cut off my right hand.’ Ilhan Omar was accused of anti-Semitism for pointing out the ‘political influence’ in the US ‘that says it is OK to push for allegiance to a foreign country’, but Schumer and Booker made no secret of their allegiance and faced none of the insults hurled at Omar. There was no murmur of dissent from supporters of Israel when Trump spoke to a group of American Jews and referred to Netanyahu as ‘your prime minister’. "The Trump administration recently prevented the Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti, one of the founders of the BDS movement, from entering the US. Barghouti, a permanent resident of Israel who has a valid US visa, was scheduled to do a speaking tour and go to his daughter’s wedding. He is a non-violent activist, but this doesn’t count in his favour among those who used to deplore Palestinian armed struggle. On the contrary: now that the Palestinians are mastering an effective means of non-violent protest, Israel claims that it is worse than terrorism because it ‘delegitimises’ the Jewish state. Anti-Zionism, on this view, is not simply an occasional cover for anti-Semitism; it is anti-Semitism. The Trump administration has signed up to this thesis; so has Emmanuel Macron. But if anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, one would be hard pressed to find a Palestinian, or an Arab, or a Muslim, who is not an anti-Semite. And if anti-Zionism is the only form of anti-Semitism that Israel, the state of the Jews, considers a threat, then Hungary and other Central European states intent on revising their histories of collaboration in the Holocaust, purging their public life of ‘globalists’ such as George Soros, and pursuing their own draconian policies towards ethnic minorities (Roma, above all), can declare themselves friends of Israel and get a kosher seal of approval." "Omar’s tweet about ‘the Benjamins’ was glib and inaccurate: support for Israel isn’t ‘all’ about campaign donations. Amy Kaplan argues in Our American Israel that the special relationship was never simply a reflection of Jewish influence in America. It draws on the countries’ histories – and imaginaries – as colonial-settler states, and has been reinforced by overlapping imperial interests. But Omar’s remarks were bracing: she seemed determined to tell it like it is. They also signalled that the conversation about Israel is changing, as disadvantaged American minorities, including blacks and Muslims, overcome a range of inhibitions – including the fear of being called anti-Semitic – and begin to speak frankly on the Israel/Palestine question. For politicians such as Omar and Rashida Tlaib, a Palestinian congresswoman from Detroit, and for black activists and thinkers such as Michelle Alexander and Angela Davis, Palestine is, above all, a matter of racial justice. The process of reframing this question is likely to be messy and uncomfortable, not least for Jews accustomed to leading the discussion. It also suggests a very American vision of Israel/Palestine, with the West Bank reimagined as Selma, a site of oppression where struggle and redemption are waiting in the wings. But this is no more of an illusion than the vision of Israel it challenges, ‘the Middle East’s only democracy’, and it aims to end, rather than uphold, a system of oppression. Now that the conversation has started, it will be hard to stop." **Adam Shatz is a contributing editor at the LRB, based in New York.


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  • bcg bcg, April 23, 2019, 9:30 AM
    @Emet: "corrupt" is not necessarily a legal term.


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  • Misterioso Misterioso, April 23, 2019, 8:42 AM
    For the record: https://www.mintpressnews.com/french-ambassador-says-trump-deal-of-the-century-is-doa-calls-israel-apartheid-state/257687/ "French ambassador says Trump's 'Deal of the Century' is DOA, calls Israel an 'apartheid state.' April 22/19 By Whitney Webb, Mint Press WASHINGTON — "In an interview with the Atlantic last Friday, outgoing French Ambassador to the United States Gerard Araud made headlines after emphatically stating that Israel is already 'an apartheid state' and that the Trump administration’s so-called 'Deal of the Century' aimed at resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict is '99 percent doomed.' "Araud — whose first government post was in France’s Tel Aviv embassy, and who was the French ambassador to Israel from 2003 to 2006 — made the claim after being asked about his views on the Israel-Palestine 'peace process.' After stating that he enjoys a 'close' relationship with Jared Kushner — Trump’s son-in-law who has spent the last two years drafting a .'peace plan' for the Trump administration — Araud noted that Kushner’s 'proposal is very close to what the Israelis want.' "This outcome has long been noted by many media outlets based on Kushner’s close ties to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu; his family’s role in funding illegal West Bank settlements; and, more recently, statements made by those familiar with the negotiations and the fact that the Palestinians have refused to negotiate with Kushner’s team since the Trump administration decreed Jerusalem to be Israel’s capital in December 2017. “'Smart, no guts'” Araud, who first became France’s ambassador to the U.S. in 2014, later described Kushner as 'extremely smart, but he has no guts. He doesn’t know the history.' While Araud posited that there may be an advantage to not knowing the history of the conflict, he also noted that it was a double-edged sword, stating: '[Kushner] is so rational, and he is so pro-Israeli also, that he may neglect the point that if you offer the Palestinians the choice between surrendering and committing suicide, they may decide the latter. Somebody like Kushner doesn’t understand that.' "Like other politicians who have recently spoken about the 'peace plan,' Araud has not seen the plan but was told that it was around 50 pages and very 'precise.' Yet, drawing on his closeness to Kushner, Araud stated that the plan had been created based on three assumptions or 'bets' made by Kushner, the first of which was that Trump would be 'uniquely able to push the Israelis, because he is so popular in Israel.' The second bet, according to Araud, was that 'the Palestinians may consider it’s their last chance to get limited sovereignty,' while the third element of the plan is 'Kushner is going to pour money on the Palestinians.' "Despite the fact that Araud clearly likes Kushner and parts of his approach, he said that the plan was almost guaranteed to fail: 'Is it doomed to fail? I should say 99 percent yes, but 1 percent, you never forget the 1 percent.' "Araud also raised the point that Israel’s government, despite all the concessions it has received from the Trump administration, would be uninterested in making any concessions, no matter how minor, as part of Kushner’s 'peace plan: 'The problem is that the disproportion of power is such between the two sides that the strongest may conclude that they have no interest to make concessions… The status quo is extremely comfortable for Israel. Because they [can] have the cake and eat it.' "Arau summarized the status quo as follows: 'They [Israel] have the West Bank, but at the same time they don’t have to make the painful decision about the Palestinians, really making them really, totally stateless or making them citizens of Israel.' "With Israel’s annexation of the West Bank looming following Netanyahu’s recent re-election, Araud further noted: 'They [Israel] won’t make them [Palestinians] citizens of Israel. So they will have to make it official, which is we know the situation, which is an apartheid [sic]. There will be officially an apartheid state. They are in fact already.' "Araud’s statement that Israel is 'in fact already' an apartheid state is not surprising, in the sense that Israeli apartheid has long been a reality on the ground in occupied Palestine. However, it is remarkable, in the sense that Araud’s statements show that the reality is now near impossible to cover up or ignore and also that the reality of the situation is receiving more recognition than ever from the mainstream. "Indeed, if Araud — a former French ambassador to Israel who is close to Kushner and a well-entrenched figure of the Western political elite — is able to make such statements without being accused of 'anti-Semitism,' it definitively shows that Israel’s status as an apartheid state is quickly becoming an accepted truth in mainstream, Western political discourse. "While Araud has been characterized for his 'bluntness' in the past and as 'direct to the point of discomfort,' his status as a member of the Western political elite that has long shielded Israeli apartheid and decades-long ethnic cleansing of Palestine from scrutiny highlights the dramatic yet unambiguous nature of the situation. "As mainstream recognition of Israeli apartheid accelerates, so too will efforts to resist it, particularly among countries and political groups that have opposed apartheid in other places around the world, like South Africa. Such pushback for those who reject apartheid systems wherever they may occur appears to be a 'bet' that Jared Kushner failed to consider when drafting his 'peace plan.'"


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  • Vera Gottlieb Vera Gottlieb, April 23, 2019, 8:40 AM
    You are so right...your comment doesn't sit well with me. As I see it, for as long as Trump and Netanyahu - and son-in-law Kushner, sit in power no progress of any kind will be made regarding Palestinians - who will continue to suffer and be punished for NOT having murdered 6 million Jews.


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  • Emet Emet, April 23, 2019, 6:29 AM
    Hey Zogbi, why do you call him corrupt before he has been indicted and convicted? Of, of course, this is the way of the corrupt Left.


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  • RoHa RoHa, April 23, 2019, 2:34 AM
    "a smoldering undercurrent of white ethnic resentment. " I would have expected Davidson to offer a better analysis than "old white guys are grumpy because fings ain't wot they used t'be". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eu4roYEJw


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  • brent brent, April 23, 2019, 1:58 AM
    https://www.jerusalemonline.com/dont-judge-a-book-by-its-cover/ In this Jerusalem On-Line article Jason Greenblatt pleads for reasonableness, to not "push us away. By working with us, perhaps something wonderful can happen for Palestinians" The article quotes Abbas, "Why does President Trump want to talk about any solution or any issue after he transferred the embassy to Al-Quds and recognized Al-Quds as the capital of Israel? Therefore, I don’t think there is any sense in talking with him". How to understand Abbas? Trump made it clear his embassy move did not resolve boundaries or sovereignty over Jerusalem. Trump is likely around the rest of Abbas' time. This is not how to intelligently deal with a super-ego who wants a Nobel and has positioned himself with Israel to deliver. Abbas is disrespectful toward Palestinians and all who have sought and supported IP peace.


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