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And ‘heroic’? No wonder its army is called the ‘most moral.’ They have perverted the meaning of many words to describe their pathological cowardice, which is reflected in the number of women and children they have massacred, and in the insane smile of a convicted supporter of a terrorist organisation who has become minister of national security (LOL) and who calls peace activists who were kidnapped in international waters and abused ‘terrorist supporters’.

It seems that the play Israel’s anthem multiple times as to make sure what it stands for nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4d_yQUQZeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xg8e_uqRAw

I would like to note that claims of condemning the ‘wrongdoings of one’s own side’ are not matched by clear examples when asked to specify the most serious alleged violations. In some cases, even allegations such as illegal occupation or alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity that come with it are framed as ‘mistakes’ (for Israel), while attention is instead drawn to relatively minor incidents, such as alleged individual misconduct like soldiers stealing Palestinian credit cards.

The same evasive behaviour is shown when questions could expose the inconsistencies in presenting oneself as supporting equal rights and coexistence while denying Palestinians the right of return, who actually lived there and their descendants, while simultaneously justifying the right of return for Jewish individuals who never lived in Palestine nor their descendants.

This “self criticism” and evasive behaviour toward clarification are obviously highly dishonest and misleading to put it mildly.

Interesting development with Ben-Gvir’s video today. It’s now clear that the government of Israel not only allows the abuse of detainees, one of its most senior ministers actively takes part in the abuse. Kristof was wrong. Abuse IS official policy.

jon s: “What Livvy is doing ,in referring to “long planned genocide” is called “projection”.”

For ethinic cleansing and genocide deniers, it surely is.

“The Hanibaal Directive was revoked back in 2016.”

For Hannibal Directive deniers “revoked” is equal to “not invoked”.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officers-invoked-defunct-hannibal-protocol-during-oct-7-fighting-report/

Are all accusations of major atrocities by Israel wrong for you, because you believe that every Jew, simply by being Jewish, is incapable of committing the alleged atrocities? Just be honest and answer this question.

American Democracy Does Not Exist
Caitlin Johnstone

May 20, 2026

“Thomas Massie has lost his congressional seat against a primary opponent whose Israel lobby funding made the race the most expensive House of Representatives primary in history. Massie has been a rare Republican opponent of Israeli abuses on Capitol Hill.

The spending on Massie’s ouster topped out at a staggering $32 million when all was said and done.

The second- and third-most expensive House primary races were also heavily slanted by Israel lobby funding, with AIPAC pouring millions into toppling progressive Democrats Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman.

Americans just watched the Israel lobby openly manipulate yet another election, and then in like two weeks they’re going to hear their government tell them they need to regime change another foreign country to bring “democracy” to its people. Americans themselves do not have democracy.“

“My favorite genre of AIPAC tweet is when they dump $16M into a race—making it most expensive primary IN HISTORY—then insist their victory shows support for Israel is “good politics”. If it was good politics you wouldn’t need to spend $16M! Thats evidence Israel is bad politics!

AIPAC 🇺🇸🇮🇱 @AIPAC
Congratulations to US Navy SEAL Ed Gallrein for defeating anti-Israel incumbent Thomas Massie!

Pro-Israel Americans are proud to back candidates who support a strong 🇺🇸🇮🇱 alliance and help defeat those who work to undermine it.

Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics!“

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/american-democracy-does-not-exist

jon s “No doubt you wanted to praise my wise comments, but please complete it anyway.”

Since when is hypocricy wise? Is it like “most moral”?

jon s “The city is celebrating!”

Minus its original non-Jewish majority who were expelled to Gaza in October 1948 during Operation Yoav, in order to acquire and maintain a Jewish majority, and then calling it a ‘Jewish democracy’ (which I consider to be a real antisemitic slur).

A thief is comfortable with enjoying the fruits of his crimes (i.e., invasion, interloping, theft, fraudulent imposture, genocide, mass murder, etc.)

For this reason, in US criminal procedure, allocution precede sentencing.

Allocution is the defendant’s opportunity to speak directly to the judge before the sentence is imposed.

During allocution a defendant should:

• express remorse,

• explain circumstances,

• request leniency,

• accept responsibility,

• or personally address the court before punishment is determined.

An unrepentant US Zionist should receive the maximum sentence for his crimes.

“Historic homeland” is a phrase that is a translation of the most extreme racist and genocidal German nationalism, which cross pollinated with Zionism since the 1880s. For this reasons the German government provides unconditional support to the Zionist state, which is the spirit and image of the worst German nationalist current. When a German or a white racist in general asserts that Jews belong in stolen Palestine, he parrots nonsense with which the German Nazis educated the world for 12 years.

The phrase historic homeland has no place in Biblical Judaism, which the ancestors of us Palestinians practiced, or in Rabbinic Judaism, which is an alien Mesopotamian/Babylonian religion in stolen Palestine. No one should be surprised that the holy scripture of Rabbinic Judaism is the Babylonian Talmud and that Rabbinic Judaism uses the Mesopotamian calendar and not the Palestinian calendar that Samaritanism and Karaite Judaism use.

The expression:

“historic homeland”

belongs primarily to:

• modern nationalism,

• diplomatic discourse,

• and 19th–20th century political vocabulary.

Neither the Hebrew Bible nor classical Talmud literature normally conceptualizes the land in those terms.

Biblical Judaism (A Zionist rarely knows much about Rabbinic Judaism)
Biblical texts overwhelmingly frame the land as:

• covenantal,

• sacred,

• promised by God to the patriarchs — the covenant of the land vanishes in the Book of Jeremiah,

• and tied to commandments.

Typical expressions include:

• ארץ כנען (Land of Canaan)

• הארץ (the land)

• ארץ ישראל (Land of Israel — comparatively rare in the Bible itself. Israel refers to the patriarch Jacob not to `am yisrael)

• ארץ אבות (land of the fathers/patriarchs)

The underlying concept is:

• divine promise to the patriarchs not to Rabbinic Jews

not:

• ethnic-national historic entitlement.

jrg: ” In so doing, you are a good role model for others here (Thomas Ellenberg, Hostage, ThisWreckage, RobertB et al) who seem to mistake personal abuse and vituperation for incisiveness.”

In short, everyone who has been personally abused by being accused of antisemitism by hypocrits who seem seem to mistake personal abuse and vituperation for incisiveness.

ThisWreckage “‘important’ is not a synonym for ‘well-argued’, ‘evidence-based’ or ‘true’.”

It means. ‘I could send forward these articles and hope everybody is stupid enough to fall for its obvious fallacies concerning genocide and sexual abuses by Jewish Israelis. And let’s hope everybody is a hyporcrit and doesn’t realize that the same faultiy reasoning undermines our indepedent and unbiased reports against Hamas and denies every genocide that doesn’t look like Ausschwitz. Meanwhile I can continue to pretend that I support equal rights and co-existence and claim that I condem our wrongdoing since 1948 by our side as long as they are not worse than wearing women clothes from Gazan women, if the size doesn’t fit.’

Jrg, we have a history of being civil with each other which I would like to maintain,but on substance I think I am pretty close to Thomas, Hostage, etc…

Okay, JonS, that was funny.

I forget what the exact phrase was, but the point was this— I think you and other Israel apologists can’t face the fact that your government is responsible for massive atrocities and these are systematic. This is a very common human response— if I do some amateur evolutionary psychologizing, people are probably hardwired to be tribal and hypocritical about atrocities. It is easy for you to see that Oct 7 was evil but near impossible for you to admit the level of Israeli brutality.

Donald, Your last sentence mentions me and was cut off. No doubt you wanted to praise my wise comments, but please complete it anyway.
Totally off-topic: our local Beersheva soccer team won the championship yesterday, The city is celebrating!

‘important’ is not a synonym for ‘well-argued’, ‘evidence-based’ or ‘true’. In this case it is an antonym for those. You Jewish-supremacists are scraping the bottom of every barrel in sight to defend your crimes against the Palestinian people. As others here have already replied with well-argued, evidence-based truths, I’ll just add my support to them.

Donald, this is a good time for me to say once again that I appreciate your continued civility in these exchanges, which does not detract from your ability to express your view vehemently. I still disagree with a number of things you write; I find your (not to mention others’ here) criticism of Israel to be over the top in many ways, but you nevertheless offer it in a thoughtful and rational way. In so doing, you are a good role model for others here (Thomas Ellenberg, Hostage, ThisWreckage, RobertB et al) who seem to mistake personal abuse and vituperation for incisiveness.

The IGF (Israeli Genocide Force) has yet to make public all the details of the Hannibal Directive. If it includes explicit order to kill civilians, the Hannibal Directive would be incontrovertible evidence that the IGF explicitly includes war crimes in its rules of engagement.

Former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant appears to have acknowledged in a 2025 interview that versions of the Hannibal Directive or Hannibal-type orders were applied “in some places” during the October 7, 2023 attacks.

The logic behind his statement appears to be this:

• Israeli commanders feared Hamas would succeed in taking large numbers of hostages into Gaza.

• Historically, Israeli security doctrine has treated mass hostage-taking as a severe strategic threat.

Some field commanders reportedly issued orders to stop vehicles or captors “at all costs,” even if this risked harming captives. (IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive.)

Gallant’s remarks are widely interpreted as:

• confirming that some commanders used Hannibal-type operational logic,

• despite the formal revocation of the original directive in 2016.

Important Nuance
There is still major dispute about:

• exactly what orders were given,

• how broadly they were applied,

• whether civilians (not only soldiers) were covered,

• and how many Israeli deaths may have resulted from Israeli fire.

Different sources characterize the doctrine differently:

Narrow interpretation
Supporters say Hannibal meant:

stop the kidnapping attempt even if captives are endangered,

not:

intentionally kill hostages.

Some former Israeli officers explicitly defend this interpretation. 

Broader criticism
Critics argue that in practice:

• using heavy weapons against vehicles or compounds containing captives

• foreseeably risks killing the captives,

• making the distinction operationally thin.

Why Gallant Said “In Some Places”
His phrasing likely reflects:

• fragmented battlefield conditions,

• decentralized command decisions,

• and the fact that not all units reportedly received identical orders.

Gallant reportedly also suggested that inconsistent application itself created operational problems.

Re: I don’t know what the legal requirements are for proving intent.

The ICJ Genocide Convention criteria requires intention and execution. Both of which have to be proven when accusations are made. So when the Court agreed after hearings to implement provisional measures against Israel over its military assault on Gaza, it was acting on proof of genocidal intent already made on the Court’s public record.

Remember the people with command authority acted with total impunity and said the quiet part out loud. There as a massive collection of state leaders, war cabinet ministers and senior army officers – and by other politicians, army officers, journalists and public figures in a comprehensive database that, revealed the widespread commitment in Israel to the genocidal destruction of Gaza. The Court had all of that evidence in hand from the outset. See the discussion at Intent in the genocide case against Israel is not hard to prove. A database of more than 500 statements showing Israeli incitement to genocide provides ample evidence of genocidal intent, by Raz Segal and Penny Green, Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Stockton University. Professor of Law at Queen Mary University of London.

The ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan and his outside special advisors had initially recommended charges that included the crime against humanity of extermination. The Pre-Trail Chamber Judges found “reasonable grounds” to proceed with warrants for starvation as a method of warfare, murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts. Unlike the ICJ, the Rome Statute Rules of Procedure and Evidence considers circumstantial evidence as adequate to establish intent. Likewise the necessary ICC Elements of Crimes specific to Genocide (pages 9 and 10) or Extermination (four sentences on Page 11) constitute a low bar, The criteria for either crime was satisfied a long time ago. If Netanyahu ever is taken into custody, he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Definitely off topic, but give the importance of the recent Kristof article in the NYT about the sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners I think this point is crucial, about 39:30 into an interview with Issa Amro and Sari Bashi:

( Beinart ) I wanted to ask about whether the Red Cross or other international lawyers or investigators are allowed into Israeli prisons in order to talk to prisoners…

( Bashi ) Since Oct 7 the Israeli government has blocked Red Cross and family visits to Palestinian security detainees…the government allowed the Red Cross to tour the detention centers but not talk to any detainees…the Red Cross said thank you but no thank you.

https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/what-we-told-nicholas-kristof

Think about that for a moment.

This is a bit peripheral, but how is the U.S. media reporting on Gaza? The Intercept has attempted to do an objective analysis of U.S. reporting, and a few days ago they posted this:

“We Analyzed Thousands of News Articles: Here’s the Proof of Pro-Israel Bias in Mainstream Media….U.S. media outlets were crucial in helping Israel sell the Gaza genocide to the American public…For my new book “How to Sell a Genocide: The Media’s Complicity in the Destruction of Gaza,” I attempt to demonstrate, beyond a reasonable doubt, that U.S. media coverage of the war on Gaza was one-sided, racist, dehumanizing, and often veered into outright incitement….I examined over 12,000 articles from the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN.com, Politico, Axios, USA Today, and The Associated Press, along with 5,000 TV segments that aired on CNN and MSNBC.”
Read on to see what techniques the press used to spin the war:

https://theintercept.com/2026/05/12/gaza-media-coverage-israel-bias/

How to Sell a Genocide: The Media’s Complicity in the Destruction of Gaza…As bombs rained down on Gaza in October 2023, images of mass death and destruction gripped the world, and openly genocidal statements from Israeli leaders foretold the magnitude of horrors to come. But the US media was quick to downplay, obscure, and repackage an emerging campaign of extermination into a slick “war on terror” framework.
How to Sell a Genocide: The Media’s Complicity in the Destruction of Gaza: Johnson, Adam H., Erakat, Noura: 9780745351650: Amazon.com: Books

Further listening, re Nicholas Kristof’s article on the sexual abuse of Palestinians:

https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/what-we-told-nicholas-kristof

Beinart interviews Issa Amro about the topic and his personal experiences.

“Issa Amro is a renowned non-violent human rights activist in the West Bank, and Sari Bashi is the executive director of the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel. Both were referenced in the recent New York Times op-ed by Nicholas Kristof entitled The Silence that Meets the Rape of Palestinians. Given the strong reaction against the piece by supporters of Israel, I wanted to dig deeper with them into the atrocities it described, and what must be done.”

This is one of those must-see interviews IMO.

For once, I have to agree with Hostage. We have, indeed, taken a beating , this year and last summer, in terms of both casualties and property damage.

Meanwhile , there’s a buildup of US forces here. BG Airport is packed with US military aircraft:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260511-israels-ben-gurion-airport-becomes-us-military-base-official-says/

Bernstein’s article is a collection of generalities and evasions. If he were morally serious, he would look at the detailed evidence backing claims of war crimes and genocide and I could imagine someone concluding that Israel was guilty of war crimes and even crimes against humanity but like any good defense lawyer, arguing that there has to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt that there was an intent to commit genocide.

Instead, Bernstein airily admits that Israel might be guilty of carelessness or less than humane standards and engages in the meaningless WW2 analogies. ( Israel apologists never stop and consider that if one insists on that analogy, there are some pretty obvious high ranking Israeli candidates for playing the role of Nazis.) There are whole volumes and detailed documented newspaper investigations into Israeli war crimes. He doesn’t want to touch that. At best, an honest defender would have to admit Israel committed atrocities and crimes on a massive scale but argue that not all crimes against humanity constitute genocide

I don’t know what the legal requirements are for proving intent. I do worry a little bit that judges might claim it hasn’t been met and then all the sick apologists for Israeli barbarism will take this as vindication. Yay, Israel. They are only an apartheid state guilty of blowing up homes with entire families ( deliberately), torturing prisoners, raping prisoners, shooting civilians including children in cold blood, cutting off water supplies , using civilian prisoners as human shields, and so forth, but who knows what their intent is? Look at Biden. He supplied arms for all of that, but he said he wanted a 2SS because he is such a lovely guy, but sometimes life is ugly. Cue the WW2 analogy. Terrorism is fine when done by the right people. It is bad when done by the wrong people.

It is clear and obvious that the Israeli government , representing its voters, sees Palestinian lives as worthless and is more than willing to kill massive numbers of Palestinians and would drive them out of Gaza entirely if they could get away with it.

As for Israel raping and torturing prisoners, this is old news. I have read apologists for other brutal governments— they all sound the same. Obviously their sacred state couldn’t be guilty of the same atrocities those Others commit. I mean, how could anyone think that My Kind could be as bad as those Others? It is why JonS can refer to Hamas members a

I got as far as the fourth paragraph of Altman’s article. So far a load of nationalistic twaddle saying in effect that the sun shines out of Uncle Sam’s arse. Without any mention on the whole screed of Donald J Trump, who, together with the Republican party, makes a nonsense of his whole ill-considered argument.

Next comes his first “flaw” in Kristof’s argument, wherein Altman claims Kristof wrote something that he never did (the same false argument Eli Lake made in Freepress a couple of days ago). His next “flaw” is that Kristof doesn’t discuss the “elite” Israeli unit that is tasked with investigating misconduct in the Israeli prison service, making – of course – no mention of the anal rape of a prisoner that was seen worldwide on video and which led, not to the conviction of the culprits, but the dismissal of the investigating lawyer. Finally, Altman mischaracterises the allegations about the use of dogs in sexual abuse as being state policy – again something Kristof never said.

In summary, unless Israel’s defenders stop lying in the face of overwhelming evidence of the truth, Zionism, and perhaps Israel itself, are doomed.

jon s

Yes, very important, if you are genocide denier and don’t understand the genocide convention.

ICC judges order that arrest warrant requests in Palestine case be kept secret. Prosecutor barred from public announcements as he prepares round of applications for Israeli suspects — The Guardian  28 Apr 2025

Israel’s Bezalel Smotrich says ICC arrest warrant request fo him is ‘declaration of war’

He announced he was issuing an order to remove the Bedouin from Khan al,Ahmar in reprisal.

See from B’tselem “Khan al-Ahmar: The last days of a Palestinian community?
June 2018′

Last week, Israel’s Supreme Court permitted the state to carry out a war crime and forcibly transfer the community of the Khan al-Ahmar school, which consists of 173 people in 32 families. The community belongs to the Jahalin tribe which comes from the area of Tel Arad in the Negev (in Israel), and which was expelled from there by the Israeli military in the 1950s. The members first leased land to live on and graze their flocks on the site where the settlement of Ma’ale Adumim was later established. They were expelled from there, too, and settled in their current location.

To make room for expanding the nearby settlement and to make it easier for Israel to annex the area, the authorities have been working for years to forcibly transfer the community a third time. The community suffers constant harassment at the hands of the Israeli authorities, making life there unbearable with a view to making residents leave, ostensibly of their own volition. 

Hostage: Thank you very much for the additional info.

Re: Dear Hostage, do you how much damage Israel is taking from Iran’s rockets and drones? 

See ‘Our coverage is not truthful’: How Israel is censoring reporting on the war
Barred from publishing details of Iranian missile impacts or interceptions, local and international journalists are struggling to tell the full story.

In late April the Washington Post hired a team to verify Iranian state-affiliated news agencies, high-resolution satellite imagery that claimed to document damage to U.S. sites. No Iranian imagery was found to have been manipulated. The Post found 217 structures and 11 pieces of equipment that were damaged or destroyed at 15 U.S. military sites in the region. Experts who reviewed The Post’s analysis said the damage at the sites suggested that the U.S. military had underestimated Iran’s targeting abilities. “The Iranian attacks were precise. There are no random craters indicating misses,” said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a retired Marine Corps colonel, who reviewed the Iranian images at The Post’s request. The Post previously revealed how Russia provided Iran with intelligence to target U.S. forces. — Iran has hit far more U.S. military assets than reported, satellite images show

If they want to hit a target, they can. I’ve commented here in the past that Israel would undergo sudden colony collapse within days if graphite bombs combined with missile and drone swarms attacked a handfull of water desalination plants and the electrical distribution system. Iran has publicly promised to target water desalination plants in the Gulf States in retaliation for any attacks against its own facilities .I assume they have privately assured the USA and Israel with the same consequences.

I’ve seen drone footage of over a dozen cities with wide areas of blasted-out civilian neighborhoods that would ordinarily take over a hundred billion dollars and four or five years to perform the demolition, repair, or replace with something similar. You can safely assume the targeting damage of military bases and infrastructure has been more precise and would incur billions more in additional costs. They’re going to need a lot more than some more FBI guys. Imagine something like Nakatomi Plaza level destruction across large swaths of the region.

jrg, Thanks for the links to two important essays.

@ jon s You may need to work on your reading comprehension. It was a question.

Jon s: “Jews are not invaders in our historic homeland. We are quite at home here.”

Historical connection does not cancel out displacement or settler colonial dynamics. Multiple peoples can have historical ties to the same land, and ancient ancestry alone does not resolve modern political legitimacy.

Indivual Jews who entered Palestine without the consent of the native population during a de facto British occupation called “mandate” were invaders and colonizers.

Important listen: Well thought out differing opinions between Omar Bartov and Gideon Levy. I have always found myself agreeing with almost everything Levy has reported and said.

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/5/15/omer_bartov_gideon_levy_israel_zionism

jrg “Kristof’s report is crap: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-new-york-times-miscarriage-of-journalism”

Your article is crap and spends substantial effort arguing against exaggerated or simplified versions of genocide accusations rather than the strongest legal arguments actually being made.

International genocide law and modern genocide scholarship are broader and heavily depend on inferred intent from conduct, rhetoric, and imposed living conditions, which is exactly why the issue is being seriously debated internationally.

“More on libelous charges of Israeli genocide: https://www.skeptic.com/article/when-genocide-loses-its-meaning-law-war-gaza/”

More on the same stupidity does not actually disprove the NYT reporting. It mostly argues that some claims are disputed, some sources are politically involved, and the reporting may have framing problems. That is very different from demonstrating fabrication or journalistic fraud.

Got some more crap?

Nope, see The UN Human Rights Council “More than a human can bear”: Israel’s systematic use of sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based violence since 7 October 2023

The smart money says that subsequently, “the tale of the tape” will still show the IDF prison guards sodomizing that guy, and then walking free, bragging on Facebook or Instagram about using their police dogs to sexually assault prisoners..

Adding Shofars, Polka tunes, accordions, and Klezmers to the soundtrack of the “all singing, all dancing, lunatic Israeli settlers on Flag day is just more repulsive. They were engaging in provocative, ideological, and aggressive mass demonstrations chanting in unison about “murdering Arabs and raping their wives”, That will not convince a normal person that Bari Weiss and her staff at The Free Press have a firm grip on reality (i.e. know Sh*t from Shinola).

In case you hadn’t noticed, President Trump posted images of himself all over the internet dressed up as Jesus, healing a man with glowing light coming from his hands. Chabad doubled-down and funded a 22 foot-tall three dimensional golden statue of Trump on a pedestal. FYI, even if MAGA succeeds in posting the 10 Commandments on every school house in America, no one will believe the US or Israeli governments comprehend the meaning of the instructions: “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor. They do the exact oppose every single day,

Kristof’s report is crap: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-new-york-times-miscarriage-of-journalism

More on libelous charges of Israeli genocide: https://www.skeptic.com/article/when-genocide-loses-its-meaning-law-war-gaza/

Re:Jews are not invaders in our historic homeland.

Wrong. Researchers determined that the Canaanites – who frequently appear in ancient sources, including the Bible – descended from a mixture of an earlier Levantine population and migrants coming from the modern-day Zagros Mountains of Iran.

Your Declaration of Establishment mistakenly claims ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) – the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of the Jewish people. But your founding myth actually says your ancestors were from Ur of the Chaldees and first became a Mighty Nation in Egypt. 

It also mistakenly claimed “This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.”

There is no natural irredentist right to usurp or be granted sovereignty by other Powers over a country, after an absence of 2,000 years. That is prohibited by the Law of Nations and the Hague Regulations of 1907. Israel was not allowed membership in the UN, until Abba Eban verified Israel had accepted the terms of the Religious,, Minority, and Linguistic Rights contained in the Protection Plan outlined in the UN legal instrument. That legal agreement cannot be altered without General Assembly consent. 

Neither the LoN or UN ever gave Jews any right to establish a National Home in all of Palestine, or permission to violate the limited right of foreign immigration. Your Declaration cites those “restrictions” and admits thay were ignored.

I see no reason to doubt that our mythology about a homland in Susa should be in any serious doubt. Susa. was one of the most important and enduring ancient cities of the Middle East. Located in the lower foothills of the Zagros Mountains in southwestern Iran. Gad Barnea, Jonathan Adler, and Joel Baden admit that the Hebrew scriptures were not historical accounts. They drew upon older sources, including Persian Zoroastrian ones, but were authored around 200 B.C.E,

No he won’t because he will lose. Threat to sue is just to get something in return from this NYT, not that they wouldn’t give him anything anytime he asks.

Re: More malicious lies from Hostage, trying to portray the victims as perpetrators. .. We didn’t murder ourselves.

Of course not. Your fellow citizens were murdered. It’s a fact there has been no independent criminal investigation allowed or conducted since that happened, See for example: “Did ‘Mass Rape’ Occur On Oct. 7? The Top UN Official On Violence Against Women Weighs In.” Mehdi speaks to Reem Alsalem about what happened on Oct. 7, the rape of Palestinian prisoners, and the ongoing genocide in Sudan.

I’ve always noted that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions prohibits murder at all times, and in all places, of anyone taking no part in hostilities.

That does not include armed combatants or security forces operating in the Gaza Envelope on either side. Many Palestinian and Israeli fighters were observed slaughtering unarmed civilians or prisoners. I’ve reported several instances where your own IDF and Defense Minister publicly admitted the Hannibal Directive was employed on purpose for several hours as part of an all out barrage. That was no friendly fire accident, It was intended to result in premeditated mass murder.

Tell that to Tom Segev, Ha’aretz, and The Guardian. Their reports have not been contradicted, and I’m repeating what they and the eyewitnesses had to say on the subject.

Re: Movement to rebuild the third temple

I’m pretty certain Israel will still be in FIFA, because some countries in West Africa, South Asia, and the Caribbean still practice animal sacrifices. But I’m pretty certain continued Eurovision participation would be a very slim possibility. YMMV.

Re: This year, the trend continued. Gangs of extremist settler youth roved through Damascus Gate chanting “Death to Arabs” and “May your village burn”, as heavily armed police officers watched on. 

True enough. This year the international press also highlighted:

Thousands of Flag waving Jews screaming “Death to Arabs we will rape their wives!”

An Israeli TV Host Jokes With A Soldier About Raping Palestinian Prisoners With Dogs Another example of how normalised the systematic sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners is within Israeli society;

“Did they engage in some heroic act? These are literally the rapists who gang raped Palestinians on camera, celebrated and protected. This isn’t just a “Netanyahu” problem. This is the systemic dehumanization and double standard the world has normalized”

That provides pretty compelling evidence that Kristoff’s report isn’t the least bit libelous.

Jews are not invaders in our historic homeland. We are quite at home here.
What Livvy is doing ,in referring to “long planned genocide” is called “projection”.
The Hanibaal Directive was revoked back in 2016.

Dear Hostage, do you how much damage Israel is taking from Iran’s rockets and drones? I read different things, in fact the opposite things at different websites. Some say Israel is taking a fatal beating, while the MSM (that’s ‘Mainstream Media’ abbreviated to save space) doesn’t mention it at all.
Where would a good place to go for facts on that?

Re: In other words, the study uses cooked data. 

The study used whole genome sequences of matching segment lengths, the total Canaanite ancestry per chromosome, and the correlation of ancestries along the chromosome. The study presented Phenotype, Haplotype, Copy number variations (CNVs), or Population genetics (PHCP) bar charts.

The amount of non-matching DNA was clearly shown on the bar charts, it was simply excluded from  the LINADMIX and ADMIXTURE statistical analysis. The Ashkenazi Jewish matching Canaanite sequences were shown on the bar chart, between 50 and 60 percent. The Palestinian matching Canaanite sequences were shown on the bar chart, between 70 and 80 percent. FYI, the other non-matching admixtures were shown and labeled on the bar charts as “Somali” and “Europe_LNBA”.

Re: The authors did not provide one of these alternate means of analysis.

When there are two closely related admixture variables, you eliminate interference from one subset and reduce the dimension size of the array. Then there is no multicollinearity. You perform Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) regression, using only the most critical principal components as the predictor. The authors did that when thy excluded the European and African chromosome sequences not found in the ancient Canaanite samples.

FYI, the authors cited two double-column pages of References to studies, including several on the topic of European Admixtures. Here is yet another one you can compare to the data they cited: The time and place of European admixture in Ashkenazi Jewish history, PLOS Genetics, 2017

Thomas, You may need to work on your reading comprehension.
“Those heroic fighters” referred to Anti-Nazi Resistance groups in WW2.
I referred to perpetrators of massacres and rapes as “heroic fighters”? When? Are you deliberately lying or are you just confused?

Zionist colonial settler invaders have been perpetrating rape, murder, kidnapping since the Zionist leadership put the long planned genocide into effect in Dec 1947 in order to steal the Palestine Mandate from us Palestinians, who are the rightful beneficiaries of the Palestine Mandate.

Zionist rape, murder, kidnappings against Palestinians are well-documented and in many ways better documented than Nazi crimes against Jews.

The Hannibal Directive

The directive reportedly emerged after:

• the capture of Israeli soldiers in Lebanon,

• and politically difficult prisoner exchanges involving Palestinian and Lebanese groups.

Israeli military planners feared that:

• captured soldiers could become major strategic and political leverage,

• leading to large prisoner releases.

The policy was reportedly formulated around 1986 by senior Northern Command officers, often identified as:

• Yossi Peled,

• Gabi Ashkenazi,

• and Yaakov Amidror.

What the directive reportedly authorized
The exact wording remained classified for many years and versions reportedly changed over time.

Broadly, the directive allegedly instructed Israeli forces to:

• use aggressive force to stop an abduction in progress,

• even if this endangered the captured Israeli soldier.

Critics interpreted the policy as effectively preferring a dead soldier over a captured soldier, though Israeli officials often denied that killing the captive was itself the objective.

The controversy centered on:

• how much force could be used,

• and whether foreseeable risk to the hostage was accepted.

Hannibal Directive on Oct. 7

The clearest publicly reported acknowledgment of the application of the Hannibal Directive came from former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant. In a 2025 interview, Gallant reportedly said that the directive was authorized “in some places.”

If the Hannibal Directive was authorized in a way that allowed the killing of Zionist colonial settler “civilians,” such an execution of the Hannibal Directive would be a war crime without a obvious cognizable defense. In contrast, Nuremberg Tribunal caselaw provides Hamas with several straightforward defenses to an accusation of war crimes.

Re: The Hebrew/Greek Bible is a late text that was probably created from the early third century BCE through the 2nd century BCE. Its terminology reflects political goals of the Ptolemaic Empire and the Hashmoean Kingdom.

The authors didn’t actually employ the biblical texts. The introduction said “The Bronze Age (ca. 3500–1150 BCE) was a formative period in the Southern Levant, a region that includes present-day Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and southwest Syria. This era, which ended in a large-scale civilization collapse across this region (Cline, 2014), shaped later periods both demographically and culturally. The following Iron Age (ca. 1150–586 BCE) saw the rise of territorial kingdoms such as biblical Israel, Judah, Ammon, Moab, and Aram-Damascus, as well as the Phoenician
city-states.”

They used “Israel” when it appeared in a persons name, the name of an organization, a street address, a biblical Kingdom name, and when the location was actually in “Modern-day Israel”, “Jordan”, etc.. They published an article about “the Bronze Age Southern Levant”. and the chart labeled the DNA sequences with City, Kingdom, or Ethnic Group, e.g. Megiddo_MLBA+Iran_Chl.. The introduction clearly stated:

“The inhabitants of the Southern Levant in the Bronze Age are commonly described as ‘‘Canaanites,’’ that is, residents of the Land of Canaan. The term appears in several 2nd millennium BCE sources (e.g., Amarna, Alalakh, and Ugarit tablets) and in biblical texts dating from the 8th–7th centuries BCE and later (Bienkowski, 1999; Lemche, 1991; Na’aman, 1994a). In the latter, the Canaanites are referred to as the pre-Israelite inhabitants of the land (Na’aman, 1994a). Canaan of the 2nd millennium BCE was organized in a system of city-states (Goren et al., 2004), where elites ruled from urban hubs over rural (and in some places pastoral) countryside. The material culture of these city-states was relatively uniform (Mazar, 1992), but whether this uniformity extends to their genetic ancestry is unknown.”

The reference to Na’aman is: “The Hurrians and the End of the Middle Bronze Age in Palestine. Na’aman of Tel Aviv University is a leading figure in the “low chronology” and sociological schools of ancient Near Eastern history. He rejects the biblical narrative of an external, violent conquest of Canaan by outsiders.

More malicious lies from Hostage, trying to portray the victims as perpetrators.  On Oct7 Hamas murderers, rapists and kidnappers  attacked,  and Israeli soldiers, police and civilians defended their homes and communities and country. We didn’t murder ourselves, rape ourselves and kidnap ourselves. Yes, on that day, in the chaos, there were tragic “friendly fire” incidents and  mistakes. Ultimately, Hamas are guilty of all those casualties .
And no, Chaim Weizmann didn’t supply chemicals to poison German civilians…

jon s: “Hamas is the opposite of the Anti-Nazi Resistance groups. in WW2. Those heroic fighters sought to liberate their people from Nazi occupation”

So what’s the difference exactly? Hamas fights against an occupation and worsed crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, genocide, conquest through war, disposession, etc.

Or do you mean by “heroic fighters” Israel gang rapists?

“They didn’t pour into Germany to massacre rape and kidnap civilians.”

Yet, they massacred, raped and kidnapped Germans civilians. But not as systematically and intentionally as Israel does. And lets not forget what Benny Morris wrote about massacring and raping from your side in 1948. You also called these Israelis “heroic fighters”.

Btw. have you convicted someone of being a member of Hamas who massacred, raped or kidnapped civilians in a civil court? Or will it be a military court with no access to a lawyer, seeing the evidence on the base that every Palestinian who was murdered or imprisoned is post facto a member of Hamas?

“They didn’t intend to end the existence of Germany or perpetrate genocide on the German people.”

The allied wanted to end the existence of an ethnocratic regime that commited genocide, ethnic cleansing and aquired war through conquest and illegaly settled in occupied territories. Same with Hamas. Which wants to end a regime that intents to end the existence of Palestine and keepts peretrating genocide on the Palestinian people.

That doesn’t mean that every action, operation and policy of the`m was without blemish. There were plenty of operations and policies which were morally unjustified’ as you wrote. And read a book of the crimes that were not only commited by Germans, but also against Germans and their “blonde witches”.

RE: That included the average amount of 41 percent of European Ashkenazi DNA found in all subjects, and the Ethopian Jewish percentages from African and more recent European DNA.

In other words, the study uses cooked data. The employment of Israel to refer to a region during the Iron Age is propagandistic. The Hebrew/Greek Bible is a late text that was probably created from the early third century BCE through the 2nd century BCE. Its terminology reflects political goals of the Ptolemaic Empire and the Hashmoean Kingdom.

In Akkadian and Assyrian there is only one questionable reference to the word Israelite.

Battle of Qarqar inscriptions of Shalmaneser III refer to:

“Ahab the Israelite (A-ḫa-ab-bu Sir-ʾi-la-a-a)”

as ruler of:

Sirʾilaia / Bīt Ḫumrî traditions.

Biblical archaeologists, who were desperate to prove the historicity of the Biblical Kingdom of Israel, proposed the questionable translation Ahab the Israelite.

The geographic term Samaria is much more justifiable on historical grounds.

73 individuals over the period of the Bronze Age and Iron Age is bad sampling methodology. I am not surprised that this article was published in Cell and not in an academic journal of statistics.

There are ways to analyze of to present genetic anthropological data without PCA (Principle Component Analysis), PCR (Principle Component Regression), or PLA (Partial Least Squares). The authors did not provide one of these alternate means of analysis.

The silence after the 2024 NYT article about Israeli atrocities is the result of the decades-long Israeli, WZO, and ADL disinformation war to obscure and cover-up historical accounts,

In 2013 Noam Sheizaf wrote: Despite efforts to erase it, the Nakba’s memory is more present than ever in Israel. The Israeli Right has been waging a war on history in recent years, using extreme measures to remove evidence of the Nakba from the national discourse. It failed. The link to the article he cited is now broken, but still available via the Wayback Machine.

The videos of delighted Zionist fighters retelling their 1948 stories of rape and atrocities are still available online today, Small video clips are on Instagram, The Zochrot website has the full video archive and their YouTube Channel has a playlist, e.g. Testimonies by Zionist Fighters. Many were exhibited during the “Toward a Common Archive” symposium, which also has a YouTube Channel.

In 2020, Ilan Pappé compiled an “indicative archive” of salvaged Nakba documents to counter the Israeli government’s systematic reclassification and removal of historical records regarding the 1948 displacement of Palestinians. The archive and his analysis were published as a special document file in the Journal of Palestine Studies.

Re: There’s no proof that the release date was rigged,

Ynet completely discredited the Civil Commission as a credible source in March of 2024: Inaccuracies, donations to a non-existent commission: The Israel Prize winner – and the questions behind the win, No one accused Yedioth Ahronoth of blood libel or protested outside their headquarters at the time.

The Israeli Foreign Ministry alleged that the New York Times deliberately published Kristof’s column ahead of an independent Israeli report. … The Foreign Ministry claimed the Times had been approached with the Israeli report “months ago.” —Times of Israel. It’s inexplicable to me how Kristoff could have timed the release of a report that had been completed and just sat around unpublished for “months” by any other news outlet. YMMV

Bret Stephens hadn’t published a word about this important Civil Commission report, despite having ample opportunity to do so for months. Bret’s other columns indicate his internet and telephone are both still in working order when he corresponds with other Israeli and Zionist sources. The Times Obituary Section has not reported his passing either.

The Civil Commission “Joined YouTube on Dec 30, 2024”. It has published 23 videos since then, including the one that automatically redirects and launches the report when the link in the CNN International report is accessed . All 23 videos have a combined total of 25,324 views, Their Channel still only has 234 subscribers today.

Netanyahu has threatened to sue the NYT for defamation. Please, please Bibi make good on that threat. In US courts, truth is an absolute defense to a claim of defamation. Let’s discuss all the details of Kristoff’s report in open court to show just how true they are. Sadly, I know this means Netanyahu will never follow through on his threat but I can always hope.

Yes, Bibi lies endlessly – like the useful idiot in The White House.

Nothing prevents Israel from obtaining laundered money from unaudited sources right now. Trump moved a billion dollars from treasury to his private account at the Board of Peace. Israel has deployed Arrow Missile batteries and IDF operators to the UAE. Scott Bessant has signaled he will approve currency swaps of UAE currency for US currency in case the UAE economy needs to be reimbursed or propped-up due to the wartime oil and tourism economic disruptions. Trump is likewise pirating oil proceeds from vessels seized in the blockade of Iran.

Also “what is taken by force can only by force returned”. Both slogans appear to be true given what the region had endured in the last 2 to 3 years. Also it appears that a democratic , secular Pan Arab Nationalism is the only viable and free future for the region.

It will be a tragedy for the long suffering people of Palestine for their support system to not find political opportunities to bridge to voting Israelis and Americans.

There has been a political cost from lack of understanding about the Palestinian end game…. Netanyahu specializes in characterizing it for his gain.

Hamas revolted just like the Arabs Revolted when Zionists tried to involuntarily transfer 300,000 Arabs residing in territories designated for the Jews under the Peel Commission Plan. This meant uprooting what was at that point almost one third of the Palestinian people from their homes and land. FYI, its not mere coincidence the British Army employed terrorism, deployed Montgomery , Wingate, and the Hagenah. They invented hanging, drawing, and quartering victims while they were still alive, and had coined the phrase “I’ll have your guts for garters.” They were still just as savage and insufferable as any Nazi tyrant.

The Arab citizens possessed three million dunams—a quarter of the private agricultural land in the territories designated for the Jews, in contrast with 100,000 dunams in Jewish possession in the territories designated for the Arabs.

I’ve cited Haaretz and Guardian interviews with historians and the actual perpetrators themselves who explained Chaim Weizmann supplied enough chemicals as part of his plan to poison the water reservoirs and exterminate millions of German civilians.

The Hamas leadership didn’t poison or destroy your civilian infrastructure. The IDF attacked the homes in the Gaza Envelope and highways with attack helicopters, tanks, drones, and artillery, They intended to disrupt the Hamas plan to target the IDF with deadly force and use the distraction to capture hundreds of hostages for a prisoner and POW exchange, just like they had with Gilad Shalit. That most of the Israeli hostages were still alive two years later is evidence that contradicts theories of genocidal intent.

That Hamas hostage exchange proposal was opposed for years by your own Knesset. They literally did prefer to pour into Gaza to destroy water and sewage plants, cut off electricity, destroy hospitals, schools, universities, churches and mosques, massacre, rape, take thousand of civilians prisoner, and turn the whole territory into a uninhabitable moonscape of rubble.

PS. I prefer to label the authors methodology as “Principal Component Regression (PCR) “ That analytical method should not be confused with Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) a laboratory processing procedure employed on DNA.

Principal component regression is a technique that combines Principal Component Analysis (PCA) and standard regression. It reduces dataset dimensions and allows the author to isolate the individual effect of the relevant variable. It ignores ones, like European of African DNA sequences not found in the ancient samples, but found in great abundance in the DNA of the modern population samples. Dozens of other DNA studies have shown that Ashkenazi Jews share ancestry with the modern Italian population, They share both MtDNA and Autosomal DNA not found in modern or ancient Middle Eastern population groups.

“They didn’t pour into Germany to massacre rape and kidnap civilians.”

Massacring, raping and kidnapping civilians is standard procedure for the IDF and before that, the Zionist militias. It is fascinating reading your posts because of the willful blindness and the utter lack of self awareness which permeates them.

Every criticism you make of Hamas and its atrocities applies to Israel and generally on a much larger scale. And you are supposed to be a liberal Israeli, which is why it is so clear that Israel can’t fix itself, not without considerable outside pressure.

I sometimes wonder, as I implied in the earlier post, if even liberal Israelis subconsciously expect things to go on as they have been, until most Palestinians are expelled, killed, or leave for the sake of their children. It is how settler colonialism works. It is how the U.S. acquired nearly all of its territory. The “ peace process” is just theater to make liberal Zionists feel better about themselves until the colonial process is complete.

This is almost certainly how it works with liberal Zionists in the US. Israel gets all the support it wants— Palestinians are promised a process by which they can someday negotiate the right to have a limited number of rights. In Israel people don’t even bother to play the game— they just steal more land at a rate low enough not to embarrass their Western supporters.

I have never been able to understand why anyone would give the lying rag the New York BLOODY Times the time of day. Judy ” I was fucking right”Judy Miller led the NYBTImes down the path of repeating the Bush,Cheney, Wolfowitz etc pac of WMD’s in Iraq lies on the front pages over and over again. NYBT has blood all over them.

Then the decades of spinning the Israel Palestine conflict when they covered at all.

“But there’s more. The storm over Kristof’s report should itself have prompted serious media coverage. (The British newspaper, The Telegraph, ran a report from its Jerusalem correspondent which did just that.) But in the U.S.: nothing. For instance, MS Now, which is supposed to be the progressive cable news network, at least should have invited Kristof onto one of its programs, along with a critic, asked questions, and let the audience start to form their own views. 
Instead, there was a truly astonishing alternative development. On May 12, one day after Kristof’s article, a group in Israel calling itself the “Civil Commission on October 7th Crimes by Hamas” released a different report — which instead charged Hamas and Palestinians in Gaza with sexual violence against Israelis! Several online commentators accused pro-Israel strategists of holding this second report in reserve after they got wind that Kristof’s article was about to run — and then released it to drown him out.”

MS NOW’s Rachel Maddow, war hawk Nicole Wallace, Ari Melber etc etc will never shed light on the Kristof truth telling story.

Judging Freedom has. Max Blumenthal and Judge Naopoltino talked about the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wd6mdRR3yE
Max stated he could go back in the conflict and share facts about a history of Israel sexually abusing Palestinian prisoners.

Do not like saying this but Kristof provided cover for Israel’s crimes against humanity and war crimes for decades.

Great that he is shifting gears last five years or so, however 10 years ago he was always providing cover for Israel’s crimes just by ignnoring.

He is joining the”One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This” crowd. Better late than never.

https://zeteo.com/p/one-day-everyone-will-have-always

While I’m happy to see politicians distancing themselves from Israel and the lobby, I have no confidence that it represents anything but an opportunist recognition of the reality, that the Zionist state has worn out its welcome among the voting population of many countries, hence it behooves those elected followers of the money to step away. I don’t believe for a minute that there is principled opposition to Israel from people like Streeting and his American analogues. I do think Israel’s days are numbered but that’s because Iran and its allies have, I believe, dealt the death blow to the tottering US empire. And I don’t see any support for them from these newly minted critics of Israel.

Hamas is the opposite of the Anti-Nazi Resistance groups. in WW2. Those heroic fighters sought to liberate their people from Nazi occupation. They didn’t pour into Germany to massacre rape and kidnap civilians. They didn’t intend to end the existence of Germany or perpetrate genocide on the German people.

Let’s have your list of such slogans.

Two part series on the subject of Persian and Arabian Gulf States that host foreign belligerent states on their territory or airspace and the international law on aggression:

Gulf States and Iran: The Implications of Hosting Military Bases Under Jus ad Bellum and Jus in Bello (Part I) – Opinio Juris

Gulf States and Iran: The Implications of Hosting Military Bases Under Jus ad Bellum and Jus in Bello (Part II) – Opinio Juris

It’s good to see ABC News is covering the extreme racism of Zionists. The Ottoman Empire saved the Jews exiled from the Inquisitions and Christian Crusades, and the Zionists were Atheists who got off the boat acting just like this in 1908 during the Second Aliya. They’ve persecuted and murdered Christian Palestinians and Americans too. The media here just doesn’t cover them frequently enough or without whitewashing the issue.

‘Leave or we’ll kill you’: Settler’s warn Palestinians in Jerusalem’s Old City – YouTube

If you want to see PM Netanyahu address the true believers and recap the wrongs committed against his family of Levites for the last 2,000 years, and all the progress he has made since last Purim destroying Iran and enlarging Greater Israel, turn on Closed Captions and follow along on his Youtube Channel Note: He is discussing Operation Epic Fury, but Israel uses their own name instead.

Your article is based upon several incorrect assumptions and non-sequiturs. The Zionist Organization, the UK, German, US governments and many others have employed racial theories and eugenics since the 19th Century to commit atrocities. The authors of these particular DNA tests are debunking biblical and racial myths, not committing or justifying genocide.

The Genomic History of the Bronze Age Southern Levant was intended to study “The inhabitants of the Southern Levant in the Bronze Age [which] are commonly described as ‘‘Canaanites,’’ that is, residents of the Land of Canaan. The term appears in several 2nd millennium BCE sources (e.g., Amarna, Alalakh, and Ugarit tablets) and in biblical texts dating from the 8th–7th centuries BCE and later (Bienkowski, 1999; Lemche, 1991; Na’aman, 1994a). Dozens of DNA Studies have already described the modern day inhabitants. The problems with studying large groups of European populations, to the exclusion of other, creates bias in the PCR statistical analytical computing tools used to plot scatter charts and etc. That situation is very well known.

But the section of the article under the heading “Further Change in Levantine Populations Since the Bronze Age” explained that standard PCR analysis using qpAdm was not employed, because none of the ancient samples had Sub-Saharan African DNA, which is found in all the modern samples.

So, the authors developed a methodology called LI-NADMIX, which relies on the output of ADMIXTURE and simply excluded modern outlier DNA from the analysis. That included the average amount of 41 percent of European Ashkenazi DNA found in all subjects, and the Ethopian Jewish percentages from African and more recent European DNA. Those population changes were not present in the ancient samples, and were not the subject of the article.

In any event, the Y-Chromosome and MtDNA matching results from the Whole Genome Sequencing, used by the authors in this study, doesn’t employ PCR tools at all. They determined all of the ethnic groups were matches and descended from the Canaanite ancestors. FYI, other ancient DNA studies of the “Canaanite culture” in Carthage established that the population were not descended from the Levantine Canaanites, but were indigenous and had assimilated Canaanite language and culture.

Don’t lose sight of psychology behind the two nuclear bombs Americans dropped unnecessairly.Buying into the propaganda comes easy with motive to do so.

There are few groups as diverse as Jews. Years ago, I came to the conclusion that the IP issue reflected a manifestation of Jews working out identity. Now complicated by paranoid delusions.

The irony is those saying “find yourselves another home” do have another home.

Aren’t both “death to America” and “death to Arabs” equally unacceptable. So, will our USA administration equally oppose the latter?

And lets not forget:

On ‘Cycles of Violence’https://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/on-cycles-of-violence/
Included in this article is Reigniting Violence: How Do Ceasefires End?
By Nancy Kanwisher”

We have seen 15.000 ceasefire violations in Lebanon and guess what has happened right now? They killed the Hamas top commander, the only one which was keeping Hamas together upholding the ceasefire. As they did with Ali Chamenei, the Iranian religious leader which was against building a nuclear bomb.

Israel needs violence to commit genocide.

LivvyCalliipygian: “Cochav Elkayam-Levy seems to be the entire commission. She is attempting to reboot her earlier lies and misrepresentations.”

She is a fraudster ripping of donors and attempting to reboot her erliaer lies and misrepresentations. Which is discussed in this video:
Israel’s SYSTEMIC R*pe EXPOSED By Ryan Grim & Muhammad Shehadahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCxPatIemeU

Good Video by this former AIPAC member,
Also a very good video about Greater Israesl is by this interviewer is:

How Zionists Escalated The Iran War – w/ Rabbi Yaakov Shapirohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgKLfz21oY

These Israelis?

Israel’s SYSTEMIC R*pe EXPOSED By Ryan Grim & Muhammad Shehada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCxPatIemeU

I ‘ve never felt so sick in my stomach. Being called “Nazi” is now considered to be a compliment amongst some Jews. Everybody should look the above Katie Helper video.

Israeli Society Has Become Completely Genocidal’ – B’Tselem Head Yuli Novakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbtHyPcc1rs

None, if you keep ignoring Israel’s objectives.

I’m not convinced that attitudes to Israel have played a big part in Labour’s fall from grace since the 2024 general election. The government’s blunders have been rooted in domestic issues (such as cold weather payments for elderly people like myself). Last week’s elections were for lower tiers of government – again purely domestic matters. That said, I’m particularly glad that McSweeney has gone.

Imagine the political advantage to be gained from greater understanding of Palestinian objectives.

American and world opinion are primed to challenge Zionism to mature.

Many Israelis will see things differently when they understand co-existence is the goal and shake the “erase, eleminate, annihilate” programming.

Toward understanding dynamics at play with Israelis.

Note from 20:00 point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sG19rNQ24c

How much longer is our so-called ‘civilized’ world going to fall for all these lies? It certainly would help if ‘we’ would finally grow some spine.

I read the peer-reviewed article that underlies Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites. This article is The Genomic History of the Bronze Age Southern Levant. Both articles are terminologically sloppy. Patrick Geary warns us in The Myth of Nations about the reuse of gentilics or demonyms.

Conclusion: Old Names and New Peoples

The fourth and fifth centuries saw fundamental changes in the

European social and political fabric. In the process, great

confederations like those of the Goths disappeared, to

re-emerge transformed into kingdoms in Italy and Gaul. Others

Like the Hunnic Empire or the Vandal kingdom seemed to spring

from nowhere, only to vanish utterly in a few generations.

Still other, previously obscure peoples, such as the Angles

and the Franks, emerged to create enduring polities. But

whether enduring or ephemeral, the social realities behind

these ethnic names underwent rapid and radical transformation

in every case. Whatever a Goth was in the third-century

kingdom of Cniva, the reality of a Goth in sixth century Spain

was far different, in language, religion, political and social

organization, even ancestry. The Franks defeated by Emperor

Julian in the fourth century and those who followed Clovis

into battle in the sixth century were likewise almost

immeasurably distant from each other in every possible way.

The same was true of the Romans, whose transformation was no

less dramatic in the same period. With the constant shifting

of allegiances, intermarriages, transformations, and

appropriations, it appears that all that remained constant

were names, and these were vessels that could hold different

contents at different times.

There are major discontinuities between ancient Jews and modern Jews just are there are major discontinuities between ancient Romans and modern Romans. While the latter discontinuities are automatically recognized, the former discontinuities are far too often ignored.

The authors draw unwarranted statistical conclusions with respect to the modern period on the basis of their bronze age research. The explanation of the problems is not appropriate for the Mondoweiss comment section. I created a post on Substack to explain: A Zionist Baffles with Statistical Bullshit.

Re: …it would be like a gay socialist defending Hamas …

Socialism is just an economic belief or theory. I’ve listed a half dozen Palestinian Socialist or Communist organizations here in the past. Economic theory has never stopped Catholics, Jews, or Protestant Christians from engaging in sexual practices that are looked down upon, considered illegitimate, or illegal,

Some of the Israeli hostages and POWs have made credible allegations of homosexual rape that should be properly investigated and prosecuted. We’ve seen IDF Prison Guards sodomizing a male prisoner on video. Hamas can’t pick and choose. It has to accept the Court’s jurisdiction for any cime listed in the Rome Statute, including rape, persecution, or murder of homosexuals. The ICC exists to prosecute crimes committed against or by Palestinian nationals when the State governments are unwilling or unable to do so.

“For a long time Zionist history started on 15 May 1948…There seems to be a pattern. If always starts when Zionist can claim that they are the real victims”

That’s exactly right and once you spot the pattern you see it over and over again. The NYT, for instance, might be starting to sour on Israel a bit, but usually they phrase their stories as “ Arab entity attacks and Israel retaliates”. By definition Israel never initiates an attack on Palestinians— the daily violence against them, even massacres such as the ones against protestors in Gaza in 2018, are just background noise. There was another story about the play about the antisemitic children’s author ( forgot his name) which mentioned the 1982 Lebanon War and of course the NYT claimed the Israeli invasion was in response to PLO rocket fire. No it wasn’t— there had been a truce and the Israelis started bombing again. There had been an attack on the Israeli ambassador in London by a dissident group not under the PLO which was the excuse given at the time.

And leaving NYT aside, you will nearly always see Zionists describing acting like the 1948 war started on May 15 with 7 Arab armies all invading to destroy Israel, despite the fact that the one Israeli massacre even Westerners knew about, Deir Yassin, occurred in April. They don’t mention that they were invading in part in response to the hundreds of thousands of refugees already created by Plan Dalet. At least some of those armies were invading the portion of Palestine assigned by the UN partition t the Palestinians state. ( Both sides wanted Jerusalem.) And “7 armies” gives a misleading notion of the relative numbers— I once heard a liberal Zionist rabbi claim the relative sizes of the armed forces on each side reflected the relative populations of Israeli Jews vs all the people in all of the 7 countries, which is off by a couple orders of magnitude, but his version made for a much more dramatic and miraculous narrative.

They Fled To Safety In Palestinian Territory, Then Settlers Attacked Again...Violent settlers ae not merely clearing Palestinians from land under Israeli control, they are attacking areas where Israel agreed to Palestinian self-governance…Settler violence has grown commonplace in the West Bank in recent years, part of a campaign of harassment, abuse and forced displacement. Since Israel captured the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war, more than 700,000 Israelis have settled in the West Bank among more than three million Palestinians….Since the Hamas-led Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel, violent settlers, emboldened by a right-wing government, have forced thousands of Palestinians from their homes, according to the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. The Palestinians are forbidden from carrying weapons, while the settlers are often heavily armed….

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/16/world/middleeast/settler-attacks-palestinians-west-bank.html

I’d stop protesting and simply file Civil RICO and Federal Whistleblower lawsuits.. Dean Rusk cited Etzion for illegal civilian settlement and explained that was a Geneva Convention violation in 1968. Israeli and US Courts that protect the practice of selling stolen privately-owned Palestinian land have always violated the Palestinian owners Court rights that are explicitly protected by Hague Convention Article 23, Both are 18 U.S. Code § 2441 – War crimes and subject to Civil Rico or Whistle blower lawsuits with treble damages or bounties. To legally negotiate property sales in NY, individuals must be licensed through the NYS Department of State (DOS). They can’t launder stolen property simply by employing a Synagogue as a ruse to engage in racketeering. If you can sue the Roman Catholic Church for covering up sexual abuse and pedophilia, you can do the same thing to Synagogues too.

Gush Etzion was repopulated after Israel occupied the West Bank in 1967. Since then, successive Israeli governments have done everything they can to expand the area of the mythological bloc, while settling Israelis on privately-owned Palestinian land. The criminal conspiracy to find legitimate occupants or heirs to repopulate Etzion in order to pillage and expand the Etzion Bloc was documented by Theodore Meron’s 1967 Memo, when he was the Foreign Ministry Legal Counsel. He is also a US citizen and a material witness, who has written about the illegality of the settlements on Palestinian owned-land in the occupied territory.

Civil lawsuits utilizing targeted financial destruction have successfully dismantled major white supremacist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) and the Aryan Nations which both employed racist religious creeds by forcing them into bankruptcy and asset liquidation. See: How Mobile mother Beulah Mae Donald bankrupted the Ku Klux Klan

Numerous religious organizations have faced legal prosecution, and lawsuits ranging from high-profile fraud and money laundering schemes to massive institutional cover-ups. Prominent examples of groups and institutions prosecuted for organizational or leadership-driven crimes include: House of Prayer Christian Churches (HOPCC); Kingdom of God Global Church (formerly Joshua Media Ministries); The Roman Catholic Church; Nation of Yahweh; The Ant Hill Kids; and Cosmic Circle of Fellowship. YMMV

Anyone noticed the labels “The West Bank, Gaza, Gaza Strip” are lacking, devoid of any reference to Palestine, Palestinians?

Instead of sending billions in 2-thousand pound bombs, fighter jets, flesh-burning white phosphorus and killer drones, please send battalions of psychiatrists to Israel. What one is witnessing is abnormal. I don’t mean to be flippant or disrespectful, but what one has been seeing in thousands of videos and first-hand accounts is so deviant, so cruel. I wish I hadn’t seen the videos of Israeli cruelties that I can’t get out of my head. It is profoundly disturbing.

This genocidal, brainwashed and wholly propagandizes population—inckuding its shills in the West—need psychiatric help. Every survey shows overwhelming support by Jewish Israelis for what the IDF has done. In what universe is it normal for New York Zionists to protests in front of the NYT for Israel’s right to rape??? They know the story is factual; it’s just that they don’t consider Palestinians human and so anything goes.

So:

• presumption shaped by group identity or conflict framing
• confirmation bias in evaluating evidence
• restricted access to full evidentiary material
• reliance on internal or non independent investigations
• political and institutional pressure on outcomes
• high influence of narratives on interpretation of facts

I stopped checking, because it sounds more and more like and anti-palestinian, Israeli version of the Dreyfus affair.

For a long time Zionist history started on 15 May 1948. Then it started with the first Intifada. Then it started with the second Intifada. — Now it starts after October the 7th,

There seems to be a pattern. If always starts when Zionist can claim that they are the real victims while conquering land through war, expelling Palestinians, commiting massaces, illegally occupyng them, illegally blockading them and son on … And if you deny this history, they are still playing the victims and accuse you of antisemitism.

jon s: “Your moral compass has malfunctioned.
I’ll return to the WW2 analogy: In WW2 Hitler and the Nazi regime were evil, the Allies were the good guys. (If you disagree, you can stop reading right here.)
That doesn’t mean that every action, operation and policy of the Allies was without blemish. There were plenty of Allied operations and policies which were morally unjustified.”

Perfect, Allies were resisting occupation and conquest trhout war. But there were plenty of Allied operations and policies which were morally unjustified. Sums up every Palestinian liberation organisation in their fight against the evil Zionist regime.

Now you’ve got it.

jon s: “I’ve always, from a very early age, been active in opposing racism and fascism. Unlike you, I’m a real socialist , seeking social justice and peace.”

Yes, an antizionist Bundist and an active in opposing racism by supporting a “Jewish state” and denyng humans their right to return, because the are not Jews.

Oh, the cognitive dissonance …

jon s: “I fully support all such inquiries, I’ve said so repeatedly.”

Yet, Israeli “reports” without an independent inquiry seem to be enough for you.
I guess you also accept Hamas’ “report” which deny all your accusations?

Expelling the refugees that were expelled. A very rare inhuma pattern. I’m even struggling to find similar cases. Maybe commenters can help.

brent: “Omer Bartov addresses equality on Democracy Now”

Did you finally learn why equality is incompatible with a Jewish state and Zionism (at least since 1948)? Did you understand Gideo Levy’s position, that it has ever been incompatible? For you to call for a campaing of equality means calling for the end of Zionism. What are your odds?

Mafarjeh has been laying out the challenges MW faces.

The West Bank has been annexed. We’re just waiting for the paperwork.

The Times of Israel said “A New York Times spokesperson responded with a statement calling the threatened suit “without merit” and “part of a well-worn political playbook.””
The Foreign Ministry was apparently hoping to reheat and serve leftovers from the The Civil Commission report, and the NYT apparently passed on the idea without bothering to consult with the pool stenographer (Bret Stephens):

“The ministry also alleged that the Times deliberately published Kristof’s column ahead of an independent Israeli report that found Hamas had systematically used sexual violence in the onslaught of October 7, 2023, which sparked the war in Gaza. The Foreign Ministry claimed the Times had been approached with the Israeli report “months ago.”
The Times has repeatedly defended the column. — Times of Israel

Yedioth Ahronoth obviously wasn’t sued for blood libel when they accused her of fabricating quotes, events, evidence, and asking for millions in state funding just two years ago. YMMV 🍿

Cochav Elkayam-Levy seems to be the entire commission. She is attempting to reboot her earlier lies and misrepresentations.

Omer Bartov addresses equality on Democracy Now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYDGmhnWqY

I was just quoting Zionist sources. Lloyd George admired Adolph Hitler and built air bases, just like the Nazis, to massacre the inhabitants of the peoples his empire dominated and considered racially inferior:

In Northern Israel, located in the Jezreel Valley not far from Nazareth, sits Ramat David. Ramat David was founded in 1926, has an airbase and a population under 500 residents…its significance? It is named after David Lloyd George, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, who played a vital role in helping the Jewish people return to the land of their forefathers and foremothers, the Land of Israel. —David Lloyd George: A Christian Zionist On 10 Downing Street

“We insisted on reserving the right to bomb niggers.” So David Lloyd George explained the British government’s demand at the 1932 World Disarmament Conference to keep the right to bomb for “police purposes in outlying places”.– The Guardian, 7 Dec 2011

In 1936, former British Prime Minister David Lloyd George visited Germany and met with Adolf Hitler. Upon his return, Lloyd George wrote a fawning article in the Daily Express in which he publicly praised Hitler and referred to him as “the George Washington of Germany”—the man who won his country independence from its oppressors.” I Talked To Hitler By The Right Honourable David Lloyd George

*Vilna Ghetto fighter Rozka Korczak-Marla comes to Tel Aviv, addressing the assembled in Yiddish about the extermination of Eastern European Jews. David Ben-Gurion, who would soon become Israel’s first Prime Minister, then spoke to the crowd in Hebrew. “A comrade has just now spoken here in a grating, foreign language,” he declared. — The Forward How Yiddish became a ‘foreign language’ in Israel despite being spoken there since the 1400s

Herzl wrote in his Diary about Yiddish: “We shall give up using those miserable stunted jargons, those Ghetto languages which we still employ, for these were the stealthy tongues of prisoners.” — Mondoweiss

Jabotinsky wrote: The Yid is trodden upon and easily frightened and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to be proud and independent. The Yid is despised by all and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to charm all. The Yid has accepted submission and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to learn how to command. The Yid wants to conceal his identity from strangers and, therefore, the Hebrew should look the world straight in the eye and declare: “I am a Hebrew!” — Ze’ev Jabotinsky, Wikiquote

Re the attempts to erase Palestinian life from Eretz Israel this is right on topic:

https://www.newyorker.com/science/medical-dispatch/how-a-new-israeli-policy-cuts-off-humanitarian-aid-in-gaza

“How a New Israeli Policy Cuts Off Humanitarian Aid in Gaza…months into the ceasefire, Israeli officials barred thirty-seven international N.G.O’s. A Doctors Without Borders clinic is carrying on without antibiotics, or even chairs for patients.”
The New Yorker is one of the best sources of information around; they have an entire fact-checking department and every sentence of every article – literally – has to meet its standards.

Then, just before New Year’s, the Israeli government released a statement. It had previously instructed all international humanitarian organizations that operated in Gaza to submit detailed information to maintain their registration, including financial statements, the identities of all donors, and a full list of employees, with passport numbers, dates of birth, and, for Palestinians, the names of spouses and children. Organizations that refused would be expelled. “We were briefed on the issue,” Hulse said. “It was really hard to believe it was actually happening.” Thirty-seven organizations—including M.S.F., the International Rescue Committee, the Norwegian Refugee Council (N.R.C.), and Action Against Hunger—received notice that they had failed to comply and would no longer be allowed in Gaza, the West Bank, or East Jerusalem. They were given sixty days to cease operations and withdraw all international staff….Many N.G.O.s have raised concerns that lists of their employees could be used to target their Palestinian staffers. More than five hundred aid workers, including fifteen M.S.F. employees, have been killed in Gaza since October 7, 2023. (The Israeli military has said that it does not target medical personnel.) Filipe Ribeiro, a head of mission for the organization, told me that M.S.F. asked for safety assurances from a committee headed by the Ministry of Diaspora Affairs. “We asked repeatedly, ‘What will you do with this list? How can we be sure it won’t be used to harm our staff?’ ” he told me. “We never received an answer.”

More Anti-Jewish propaganda from Hostage. Including terminology which I thought was not permitted here . “Yids”, “Niggers”…where are the moderators?

…it would be like a gay socialist defending Hamas …
Looking up at my bookshelf as I write this I see Marx and Engels, Lrnin and Trotsky, Mao and Marcuse, Fidel and Che and more. Also the Socialist Zionists – Borochov and Syrkin and Ya’ari and others…
So I’ve read a bit, but I’ll check the website you recommend.

Jon’s, you talk like history started in Oct 7, but Israel has been torturing and raping prisoners for decades. It has been stealing land and massacring civilians for decades. Its justice system for Palestinians is a sick joke. But sure, cling to your self delusions about good vs evil.

Israel is a classic settler- colonial state and if you want historical analogies WW2 doesn’t work— it is the lazy propagandist’s go- to example where the other side is always Hitler. I avoid Nazi analogies myself but if anything, since you raised it, the Israeli Right seems pretty damn Nazi- like to me. A much better analogy would be to various Indian wars in US history— you would find that in many such cases both sides committed atrocities but it was clear which side was engaged in conquest. ( You will trot out the homeland thing— I don’t care whose ancestors lived where 2000 years ago. )

It sounds nice for you to say war criminals should be prosecuted but most of your society supported the war crimes. I don’t think your country can fix itself. Maybe you will be the U.S.— after you have stolen all the land and killed or expelled most of the remaining Palestinians except maybe for a small minority, generations from now your descendants will regret it or say they do. Israel still has the 19th century mindset and for decades many Westerners pretended not to see it or supported it for just that reason.