Yes, There Is a Guerrilla War Against Zionism in the U.S. What Should Jewish Institutions Do?

I just looked at the comment section of the youtube speech by Congressman Howard Berman the other night in Sherman Oaks. It’s stunning how much rage there is toward Berman:

Portrait of a hypnotized zionist tool. He can’t even see how he is
speaking out of both sides of his mouth. PeaceThroughJustice above has it bang on: HB
says he is an ardent supporter of israel and he firmly stands behind
israel’s security"; then he is shocked that anyone would suggest that
US foreign policy is controlled by zionists.

There is no end of evidence that this kind of rage is bubbling to the surface all over America. My sister-in-law tells me that the almost-censored If Americans Knew speech at the Greenwich Library last week was "a mob scene." I’ve blogged about the fact that at a Yivo event, neocon Iraq-war-planner Bill Kristol had a hunted look as he spoke of the craziness that had surrounded neocons since the war. Neocon chronicler Jacob Heilbrunn has seemed fearful in his public statements about his book, They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons, stepping away from his own assertion that neocons formed cabals in the government. It is as if he is spooked by the snakepit he stepped into. The fact that our Israel policy has hurt us across the Arab world is no longer a revelation to Americans. They know it, and seem to want to do something about it. Jimmy Carter and Walt and Mearsheimer and the Iraq debacle have been an IV-drip into the American bloodstream.

The rage out there is not antisemitism. It may be antiZionism, it may
be isolationism. It is a groundswell that needs to be addressed
honestly. When Congressman Berman went into fits of denial that there is an Israel
lobby, after saying that he joined the Foreign Affairs Committee
because he cared about Israel, this was not honest.

What should Jewish institutions do about it? The answer is obvious, they should have forums. They should express the range of Jewish opinion re Israel (not the narrow range that Yivo gathered in its Martin Peretz-organized forum on Walt and Mearsheimer in November). They should encourage that range. They should begin an open discussion within the Jewish community of what Zionism has done to Jewish identity and American foreign policy. They should grill the neocons and give a platform to post-Zionist Jews like Joel Kovel and David Zellnik, rather than just smearing them. They should confront the extent to which the adamant refusal by the Jewish establishment to acknowledge Palestinian suffering even as it insists that Israel is a democracy has hurt Judaism and hurt U.S. foreign policy. They should wake up.   

About Philip Weiss

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  1. Richard Witty says:

    "The rage out there is not antisemitism."

    Some of it is. Thats if you are sincere in wanting to address it honestly.

    If you've been around Jewish communities for decades, participating, you would have seen the kind of open inquiry widely conducted, that you claim doesn't happen.

    Annually, in my shul, we discuss politics. Our community spans a very wide of political spectrum, including those that are overtly anti-Zionist, a few that are religiously anti-Zionist. The majority, the vast majority, are pro-peace, and very cognizant and sympathetic with the history of Palestinians and current situation.

    Contempt is not the answer.

    I can understand the feeling of newbies, whether adults new to the discussion, or young adults that have not seen congregations and communities argue and agonize over the internal moral conflicts.

    But, in most, its happened. And, in most, there were many that didn't want to be bothered with the confusion of a good action (Zionism), having negative consequences to others, that need to be resolved fairly.

    But, most Jews now accept that Palestinians are a people, and deserve to self-govern, and in a manner and scale that is viable and sovereign.

  2. Richard Witty says:

    What should Jewish institutions do?

    They/we should encourage our representatives and those Israelis that we have contact with to take up the offer of reconciliation that the Arab League suggested.

    Israel should not drag its feet on those many actions that it can confidently and safely take unilaterally.

    And, we should communicate convincingly and often of the need for the US to actively participate, particularly in holding bi-lateral and multi-lateral parties accountable to agreements that they've made.

    In the case that the US and Europe can hold Israel accountable, and the Arab League can hold the PA and Hamas accountable, reconciliation is possible.

    The tragedy is that the US is administered by an incompetent.

    As galling as it is, it is better to wait until a more competent leader is available.

  3. Val says:

    oh come off it, Phil. This is about Jewish control IN America NOT Israel per se. This is about isolation, but it's elitist Jewish isolation not the rest of the countries. The fiscal control, the media control and so forth.
    Israel is the focus to an extent but the real problem cannot be diluted by using Israel as a whipping boy. Like if Israel dissolved tomorrow the'd be no problem in America? The problem is the people involved, not ALL Jews and not Irseal per se.

  4. D. says:

    "But, most Jews now accept that Palestinians are a people, and deserve to self-govern."

    What did they think before?

  5. peters says:

    FINALLY!!!!!!! YES!!!!! THERE IS RAGE!!!!!
    Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. Of course there is rage. We have been prevented from speaking, information has been suppressed, and that is CONTROL. Freedom has not been allowed, which is experienced as a form of abuse. It is highly painful, especially for people who care about our country, our society. It is exactly the same as any family system- if there is a big fat problem and no one is allowed to talk about it, there is disfunction, rage, and acting out. No wonder little explosions of anti-semitic verbal abuse are bursting out. It is not right, just as the teenager of the family stealing cars isn't right, but it's not without its etiology.
    I believe Phillip is dead on about the cure as well.
    I am very grateful for this post. This blog is the most important blog in America.

  6. peters says:

    FINALLY!!!!!!! YES!!!!! THERE IS RAGE!!!!!
    Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. Of course there is rage. We have been prevented from speaking, information has been suppressed, and that is CONTROL. Freedom has not been allowed, which is experienced as a form of abuse. It is highly painful, especially for people who care about our country, our society. It is exactly the same as any family system- if there is a big fat problem and no one is allowed to talk about it, there is disfunction, rage, and acting out. No wonder little explosions of anti-semitic verbal abuse are bursting out. It is not right, just as the teenager of the family stealing cars isn't right, but it's not without its etiology.
    I believe Phillip is dead on about the cure as well.
    I am very grateful for this post. This blog is the most important blog in America.

  7. Shlomo #5 says:

    "This blog is the most important blog in America."

    I think you may be right.

  8. uk says:

    Richard:

    Zionism is " a good action"? To use the money power of the Rothschilds (to whom was the Balfour declaration addressed to, Richard?) and the military and political power of the British empire (and then the US) to create a colony for people of one race/religion at the expense of the native people in Palestine through ethnic cleansing induced by terrorist gangs (Irgun, Stern, etc.) and then by the Israeli government. To flaunt all international law and standards of human rights and keep the region (and now the US) perpetually at or on the verge of war.

    If this is a "good action" one has to wonder what a "bad action" might be.

  9. Gene says:

    Witty: "Annually, in my shul, we discuss politics. Our community spans a very wide of political spectrum, including those that are overtly anti-Zionist, a few that are religiously anti-Zionist. The majority, the vast majority, are pro-peace, and very cognizant and sympathetic with the history of Palestinians and current situation."

    All this is well and good. What isn't so good is that the people who schedule public forums are terrified of holding such discussions and, on the rare occasions when they do, the mainstream media is terrified of covering them (or their editors don't want to cover anything where a disparaging word might be heard about Israel).

  10. Jaffr says:

    Phil and all:

    A bit of realism (but some wishful thinking also) on the possibility of a new discourse on Palestine/Israel in a fine article in the current Al-Ahram:
    THE LIMIT OF OBAMA'S IMAGINATION
    link to weekly.ahram.org.eg

    "At a time when Obama's moral voice was most needed, the reach of his wings proved to be cautiously perforated on an AIPAC line, writes HAMID DABASHI…

    "Israel," Senator Obama has assured his AIPAC audience in a speech on 3 March 2007, is "our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy. . . We must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs…

    "Obama has had to renounce his connections not just with the Palestinian cause but also even to the pastor of a church he faithfully attended because he is a liberation theologian. How many of his wings will the Illinois Senator have to cut short before he can fly, and if he ever gets actually to fly how far can he soar, how deep will he fall? The thing that he has failed to understand is that he can never out-Hillary in appealing to, satisfying, and securing the endorsement of the pro-Israeli lobby. Every corner that he comes to cross and sell a bigger part of his soul to AIPAC, Hillary Clinton has already been there and done that. If he only had the courage of his convictions, if he only believed in the spectacular hope that he has generated in millions of young and idealist Americans — including (and in fact particularly) young and idealist Jewish Americans."

    And much more!

  11. americangoy says:

    The first thing that needs to happen is a news anchor, casually slipping on air, that Israel is and has been getting $3 billion per year, every year, making it the number 1 aid recipient of US aid money for years.

    Most Americans don't know that simple fact.

    Start with that and lets see how much Americans, the working Joe Schmoes, support and love Israel and think its goals are the same as the United States.

    Once that meme spreads, other information will be more easily slipped thru the censorship.

    Perhaps some actual news feeds from Gaza… the sky's the limit by then.

    Now, re: the rage.
    Of course there is rage and it has been bubbling. Whereas Israelis freely talk amongst themselves about all kinds of issues, including settlements and the Gaza situation (like any normal democratic country), we in America do not do so.

    It used to be so bad that a person who dared to utter a weak criticism of Israel was immediately called a nazi, an anti semite, a Hitler lover.

    Yes, that is exactly the phrases that were (and still are, to some extent) used.

    Then the smears would begin, making a university professor lose his job, a business professional to lose hers…

    Literally, criticizing Israel was bad for your career.

    When faced with this censorship in the media (and that is exactly the right word we have to use), when faced with damaging one's career if one dared to speak out, as well as threatening phone calls, nasty emails, letters written with "anti semite" written prominently on them, as well as other harassment; when faced with all that, what do you think a calm, professional yuppie's reaction will be?

    When in a so called democracy we have effective censorship, when speaking free speech to criticize (mildly at first) another country and then paying a shattered career price for it, what happens?

    Democracies have an outlet to deal with dissatisfaction – people can speak out, form a political party, march in protests.

    In America re: Israel issue, we cannot speak out, we cannot form a political party (the system is made for 2 parties for very rich people to be members of), we can protest as long as we do it in "free speech zones".

    So when the democracy turns out to be a sham, a nice looking facade, what happens?

    We become radicalized of course.

    Just like the Arabs living under dictatorship of Mubarak, who effectively created al Kaida (Osama was just the money man).

    Just like Palestinians living under control of a foreign power for decades became radicalized terrorists, stone throwers and Hamas supporters.

    Just like Iraqis now…

  12. P.A.Z.-J.E.W., innocent victim of guerrilla attacks says:

    Phil is right to call this a guerrilla war. What can be seen on the internet is an act of aggression against Zionism.

    In much the same fashion, poor people have been waging aggressive class war on the rich for time eternal.

    "The first thing that needs to happen is a news anchor, casually slipping on air, that Israel is and has been getting $3 billion per year, every year, making it the number 1 aid recipient of US aid money for years.

    Most Americans don't know that simple fact."

    This is a blatant misrepresentation. Borderline anti-Semitic fascist extremism.

    Americans do know they have a friend in Israel.

    And Israel does have many of the same goals as the United States.

    (Consider: getting American taxpayers to cough up billions for fighter jets, cluster bombs, and other progressive solutions for humanity in the 21st century.)

    Other proud, Progressive American Zionist Jews for holo-Exaleipsis When-necessary and I have frequently pointed out that Zionism is to always be conflated with the concept of Jewish SELF-DETERMINATION.

    (That is, Jews were not self-determining prior to Zionism, or cannot be self-determining without Zionism; ergo Judaism itself is dependent on Zionism to survive as a people.)

    If that quest for self-determination necessitates the deliberate manipulation of history and current events in mass media, that is STILL within the rights of a self-determining PEOPLE.

    Still, I contend that Americans do know and love their relationship with Israel and in particular how much their Congress, Senate, and executive branch candidates are ENCOURAGED to love and protect Israel.

    To deny that is to become akin to the reprehensible Father Coughlin, an extremist who in the 30's "preached more and more about the negative influence of 'international bankers' and of Wall Street on the general welfare and about the need for monetary reform …[and] claimed that the Depression was a cash famine (modern economic historians, in part, agree[4]), and proposed monetary reforms, including the elimination of the Federal Reserve System" (Wikipedia).

    Only a dehumanizing extremist would contend that colonizing Palestine for a century, or creating mountains of worthless paper to finance invading and occupying a Middle Eastern country, aren't actions completely legitimate, morally justifiable, and full of wholesome goodness. These are good actions.

    To say otherwise is malevolent, and should be removed from public discourse and public airwaves.

    This is not thought-policing, this is SELF-DETERMINATION and humanism.

    americangoy, you should read more of the historians that I read, like Philip Roth. I enjoy telling people they don't read enough, because when they demonstrate a different historical narrative basis than my own, they clearly have not read enough.

    I also particularly enjoy NOT reading a book, then making a public point of not having read it, and then commenting on the strength of the arguments therein and the motives of its authors.

    In the difficult situation of a good action that has had some negative consequences for others, it is impossible for PEACE to emerge when there are so many polemicists stubbornly perpetrating misunderstanding, and spreading counterfactual myths.

  13. Jesus Reyes says:

    We are all Palestinians. They in Palestine are in a physical cage and we in the US are in a mental cage.

  14. cj says:

    It has been a staple of public discourse for decades, that those who criticize Israel specifically because they love the country and believe in the more lofty and challenging and just of its ideals, are routinely pilloried for it, berated by rightists as self-haters and anti-Semites and destroyers of Zionism.

    Now meet a refreshing new phenomenon – bashing and negation of those same critics of Israel, but this time, the attacks are coming from Palestinians, other Arabs and Muslims, and their allies on the European ultra-left.

    The message is: We don't care what you think, we don't care what causes you care about and advance, we don't even care if you think just like we do – You're Israelis, and that's good enough for us – in fact, bad enough for us – reason enough, in short, to boycott you.

    We've seen it in the serial boycott obsession of elements of the British intelligentsia, who essentially seek to penalize and punish Israeli colleagues for little more than the original sin of being Israeli. It matters not at all to the boycott-bent if many of their targets are on-site leaders in the struggle for Israeli-Palestinian peace and reconciliation.

    Yes, we've come a long way from UN resolution 3379, adopted in late 1975, the declaration which determined that "Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination."

    Now we have Anti-Zionism as a form of racism.

    Actually, the clue to understanding the phenomenon may lie in the wording of the resolution itself, which included an explicit endorsement of the "elimination" of Zionism alongside "recognition of the dignity of peoples and their right to self-determination."

    The bottom line, of course, is that the very idea of a movement to found and foster a Jewish state is illegitimate, and, by very short extension, such a state in the Holy Land – or anywhere, for that matter – has by definition no right to exist.

    Though the resolution died a formal death when it was revoked in 1991, some of its spirit lives on. The most obvious and most widespread form is the rise of Islamist ideology, which in its most radical forms explicitly views the Jewish people in the Holy Land – and even in places like Buenos Aires – as a cancerous presence and a preferred target.

    In its more subtle forms, the resolution lives on in such phenomena as the recent response to a decision by the organizers of the Turin International Book Fair to declare Israel as its guest of honor.

    In an initial salvo, The New York Times reported, a local pro-Palestinian group "stormed the book fair offices in Turin, demanding that the invitation to Israel be rescinded."

    They distributed leaflets reading "We are appalled to see the world of culture take the side of those who methodically operate to annihilate Palestine and the Palestinians."

    It mattered not at all that among the authors to be most prominently featured at the fair are David Grossman, Amos Oz, and A. B. Yehoshua, writers closely identified with the search for peace with the Palestinians and for an Israel more closely committed to equality, democracy and human rights.

    In a further move to underscore the idea that the only good Israeli is an absent Israeli, Swiss Muslim academic and activist Tariq Ramadan and British-Pakistani author Tariq Ali, along with Italian ultra-leftists are calling for a boycott of the entire event, slated to coincide with May commemorations of the 60th anniversary of the founding of Israel.

    Perhaps most remarkable in the Book Fair controversy – and the most direct recognition of the inherent racism on the part of the boycott proponents – has been the response of a group of more than 30 Italian intellectuals and artists. In an open letter, they called on Italian President Giorgio Napolitano to preside over the opening of the fair, and to speak out "against any discrimination and blind intolerance towards the citizens and culture of Israel."

    Where does the line fall between legitimate criticism of Israeli policies on the one hand, and a racist anti-Zionism on the other? There is, in fact, such a line.

    It is racist to suggest that all peoples have a right to self-determination in the land of their ancestors, with the exception of the Jews.

    It is racist to maintain that Muslim historic and religious claims to Jerusalem and the Holy Land are absolute and date to antiquity, and at the same time to negate and dismiss Jewish historic and religious claims, to call Jews interlopers and usurpers and carpetbaggers in the land of their Bible, which is a sacred reference for Muslims as well.

    It is racist to declare Zionism as an evil before which all other evils in the world pale, and to argue that any act of violence against non-combatants is justified in the service of defeating Zionism.

    It is racist to take Israel and only Israel to task for its shortcomings in the areas of civil equality, sharing of resources, and the search for peace, while keeping silent or even taking pains to legitimize the same failures on the part of the countries and peoples one happens, as blindly as a pre-pubescent football fan, to support.

    To seek to silence and boycott Israelis as Israelis is to violate human rights and acts, in the process, to undermine the cause of the Palestinians.

    Fighting fire with fire is a tactic which, despite its dangers, often succeeds. Fighting racism with racism is a tactic which, despite its allure to the hothead, never does.

  15. Richard Witty says:

    "All this is well and good. What isn't so good is that the people who schedule public forums are terrified of holding such discussions and, on the rare occasions when they do, the mainstream media is terrified of covering them (or their editors don't want to cover anything where a disparaging word might be heard about Israel)."

    Discussion is NOT helped by being covered in the media. If anything, the spotlight inhibits people from real inquiry.

    If Phil is interested in real discussion, he would spend his time organizing real discussion in face to face meetings, gathering people with differing perspectives to respectfully present their views, with vibrant Q & A, without the "accountability" of youtube even, and without the "accountability" of his imaginations of what the presenters thought, or the political implications.

    Mountains out of molehills do NOT encourage candor, learning, and sympathy.

    RAGE is the wrong answer.

  16. Richard Witty says:

    "Most Americans don't know that simple fact."

    Its not a "fact". Its a good thing that Americans don't ignorantly digest it as agitated "fact".

    The reason its not a "fact" is that the US military spends hundreds of billions in Iraq (not in or for Israel), likely tens of billions in Germany, Japan, South Korea, Phillipines, Bosnia, and elsewhere, EACH.

    Its just that those expenditures are not definitively disclosed.

  17. Richard Witty says:

    "Literally, criticizing Israel was bad for your career."

    That is utter bullshit.

    Criticism is respected. Demonizing isn't. There is a difference. Its discernible and real scholarship is respected in American academia.

    You don't have a clue.

    You conflate Finkelstein's experience to some general suppression of opinion, that just isn't there.

  18. Richard Witty says:

    "americangoy, you should read more of the historians that I read, like Philip Roth. "

    This was funny. I can see how you could parody my comments in that way.

    I however challenge you (whoever you anonymously are) to actually read Benny Morris, or Baruch Kimmerling, or Ilan Pappe even (cover to cover).

    The "New Historians" are too "biased" for you?

  19. Congressman Howard Berman on Israel and the pro-Israel lobby:

    link to itszone.co.uk

    Finkelstein gives Israeli-American relations lecture:

    link to itszone.co.uk

    http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM

  20. If you do a search for 'Mearsheimer' in the field at CBSNEWS.COM, the following article that Phil wrote for 'The Nation' about Mearsheimer/Walt appears as the only reference:

    Ferment Over The 'Israel Lobby'

    link to cbsnews.com

  21. Additional about Mearsheimer/Walt (see http://www.israellobbybook.com as well):

    link to warwithoutend.co.uk

    US Support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinian people PRIMARY MOTIVATION for tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11 (also look up 'Israel as a terrorist's motivation' in the index of James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book which is shown on both pages of http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM as well):

    link to warwithoutend.co.uk

  22. They should join the homo-sapien-underground. Israeli Telecommunication Companies…It's Time to Seize Their Property
    link to homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com

  23. Jim Haygood says:

    "This blog is the most important blog in America." — peters

    Not only that, but it's exceedingly well-written. This formulation of Phil's is brilliant: "Jimmy Carter and Walt and Mearsheimer and the Iraq debacle have been an IV-drip into the American bloodstream."

    Unquestionably, sunshine is the best disinfectant to get the issue of $3 billion a year for zionism out in the open. The mere opportunity to debate the issue (a debate completely missing from the mainstream media and the Congressional Record) would defuse much of the rage. It's the heavy-handed suppression that provokes the anger.

    Consider, for instance, the position paper on Israel posted by Congressman Eliot Engel (D-Israel), an ardent zionist who also represents the northern suburbs of NYC. After dispensing the standard cliches about Israel ("America's best friend," "the region's only real democracy," etc.), he concludes his essay with this astonishing non sequitur:

    "Please be assured that I will remain steadfast in my support for a strong US-Israel relationship and continue my fight against anti-Semitism."

    link to tinyurl.com

    Huh? Why does 'anti-Semitism' suddenly appear out of nowhere, in a position paper about a country? Knowing Eliot Engel (I've spent some time chatting with him), I can tell you why: he thinks (just as Howard Berman and Richard Witty do) that questioning or opposing Israel's entitlement to U.S. aid is inherently, axiomatically, prima facie anti-Semitic.

    There can be no open debate when the first and only response to those who raise factual questions is to call them names. No wonder there's rage out there.

  24. Todd says:

    If Phil is right about the influence of Jewish power in the United States, the support of Israel is only a part of the problem.

    Would Jewish power and influence put Phil's Jews at the top of a financial/tax system that has money pouring upwards rather than trickling down? Would Jewish influence drive massive, uncontrolled immigration that is overwhelmingly unwanted, and coupled with doctrines such as multiculturalism and political correctness,is clearly tearing the fabric of the nation apart for the benefit of a few? Would they get credit for a foreign policy that is destroying U.S. credibility abroad, and threatening constant conflict for years to come, and for seemingly self-serving reasons? How about the decline of culture and education, do they get credit for the decline? Or do they only get credit for a meritocracy that seems to benefit a select group of people for reasons that aren't obvious?

    If Phil is right, I don't think that the often touted three or four extra I.Q. points are enough to smooth this mess over, let alone clean it up.

  25. Observer says:

    Berman, Waxman, Engle…let them keep on announcing brazenly that they assume office and committee chairs in order to promote the interest of Israel.

    It will catch up with them.

    The next thing you know there will a petition to the FBI circulating asking for these double agents to be investigated. Good idea btw. What American in their right mind wants public officials who openly declare their first loyalty lies with a foreign country to be serving in congress or having access to information that they surely pass on to Israel for their benefit not Americans? No American that I know.

    Israel is a foreign country, it's isn't America. And it certainly isn't a friend of the US. It's a client welfare state and that solely because of the domestic zionist cult residing in the US and in our congress.

    Since we aren't at war with Israel the congessmen's actions don't fit the outdate treason definition but we all recognize it as such. Berman knows it too or he wouldn't have tried to backtrack.
    It's time for America to tighten up it's own interest and start some house cleaning. Things have changed since the treason law was written and it needs to be expanded and updated to reflect current realities in this country now.

  26. americangoy says:

    Well I just have to respond.

    Thanks, thanks for proving my point re: the $3 billion that goes annually to Israel is an unknown fact in America:

    ""The first thing that needs to happen is a news anchor, casually slipping on air, that Israel is and has been getting $3 billion per year, every year, making it the number 1 aid recipient of US aid money for years.
    Most Americans don't know that simple fact."
    This is a blatant misrepresentation. Borderline anti-Semitic fascist extremism."

    Borderline anti semitic fascism is saying that Israel receives $3 billion a year annually?

    ""Most Americans don't know that simple fact."
    Its not a "fact". Its a good thing that Americans don't ignorantly digest it as agitated "fact"."
    A fact is not a fact? Stating facts is agitating?

    Gee the $3 billion annual aid to Israel is a myth then, a borderline anti semitic fascism… I guess all these are wrong then and also nazi anti semites:
    link to csmonitor.com
    link to abcnews.go.com
    link to ynetnews.com

  27. Ravenhawk says:

    Considering men and women in Canada and Europe are being imprisoned for merely saying things Jews disapprove of, the animosity towards the Jewish community is rising exponentially to the point I have Jewish friends who are concerned about winding up wearing yellow stars again.

    With such laws it becomes obvious the depth of the Jewish drive to fully control non Jews world wide as the Jewish and Israeli lobbies push for America to continue butchering all nations they disapprove of. The worst of Kabbalah's agenda to "Destroy 70 Idolatrous Nations," "Ishmael," "Edom," and "Rome" springs to life, to the alarm of the world and all non Jews world wide.

    The pilfering of treasuries worldwide for the benefit of Israel and Jews, and the wars they foment, to the neglect of the people for the 'good of the Jews' becomes boorish and annoying. The culture and family destroying filth the Jewish media foists upon the world turns the whole world a cesspool of fornication, homosexuality, murder, rape, gangsterism and assorted other perversion.

    When will we rise up and remove this Judaic leech from our bodies? That is the only question that remains, as the Jewish people have no history of backing off from their conquering agenda unless they're forced to with total force and brutality. This has occurred many times throughout history and, God willing, it will happen again unless Jews cease from their aggressions against humanity and the world.

    No, the World was not made only for the Torah and the Jews. That is the starting point that must be realized.

    So now Jews, thru their loyal Congressfolk, entered another bill for $200 Billion for payment for the suffering of the holocuast, plus another multi billion dollar suit because America did not bomb the rail lines to Auschwitz soon enough. Will this blood and money sucking by the Jews ever end as long as there is even one of them left alive? That is the question we have come to.

    Will these Jewish created wars ever end as long as there is even one jew left alive? That is the question we are facing.

    So what should the Jewish community do? My answer would be to take pause and reflect upon their whole history of murder and genocide against non Jews that they have committed. From the first entering of Canaan, thru the Book of Joshua, thru Judeo Communism, the Jewish formentation of the Two World Wars, to now this Judeo/Neo Con operation they are are currently waging.

    It is time the Jewish people awaken to the fact that everyone is fully human and is deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is not as the Talmud and Zohar claim, that Jews are the only humans and they have two additional soul levels non Jews can never have. They must cast aside the idea that non Jews are merely beasts in human form, made to serve the Jews, and that the property of the goyim can be taken by the first Jew who comes along.

    The two level Judaic system of justice for Jews and non Jews must be set aside as well. For we are all equal before God. Like it or not.

    Israel has shown the true colors of the Judaic enterprise, and those colors show Judaism to be a gentile hating, property stealing, lying, criminal enterprise bent on domination and destruction of the non Jewish world.

    Isn't it time that changed?

    Thanks for hosting this forum Phil.

    Shalom

  28. americangoy says:

    Part 2:
    OK second smear:
    ""Literally, criticizing Israel was bad for your career."
    That is utter bullshit.
    Criticism is respected. Demonizing isn't. There is a difference. Its discernible and real scholarship is respected in American academia.
    You don't have a clue."

    link to thenation.com
    Neither does Mr. Weiss it seems…

    link to muzzlewatch.com
    Archbishop Tutu also seems to not have a clue…

    link to zimbio.com
    And so would Obama…

    link to web.israelinsider.com
    IsraeliInsider also a target of a smear campaign since they host Barry Chamish…

  29. americangoy says:

    Part 3:

    link to alternet.org
    "DePaul University canceled courses taught by Norman Finkelstein, the controversial political science professor known for his forthright criticism of Israel, just a week before classes resumed in June.
    (…)
    Jimmy Carter is facing a firestorm of criticism from right-wing American Jewish organizations for his book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, which mildly condemned the Jewish state's occupation policies in the Palestinian territories.
    (…)
    Judt, a descendant of Holocaust victims who argues that power in Israel has tragically shifted to religious fundamentalists and territorial zealots, is another victim of this pressure. The history professor, who also speaks out against American Jewish groups' attempts to stifle honest discussion on Israel's policies, has been forced to cancel many speaking engagements because of pressure from Jewish organizations. (…) The two respected scholars (Walt and MEarshimer -AG) have been denounced as anti-Semites by ADL Director Abraham Foxman, among others."

    link to masada2000.org
    The 700 "self hating Jews" also perhaps feel a bit miffed…

    And finally, the comment about my post that wins the BIG PRIZE:
    "I enjoy telling people they don't read enough, because when they demonstrate a different historical narrative basis than my own, they clearly have not read enough."

    I am speechless. :)
    Carry on.

  30. americangoy says:

    And oh yeah read your Walt and Mearshimer folks:

    “Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget."

    Gosh these 2 uppity professors also report the "controversial" and "anti semitic, borderline fascist" fact that Israel is a top US foreign aid money recipient.

    They must be stopped!
    The chutzpah of these goyim – unbelievable!

  31. Jim Haygood says:

    By the way, Observer, the espionage trial of former AIPAC lobbyists Rosen and Weissman is now scheduled to start on April 29, 2008. Thinking ahead to the political implications, Nathan Guttman noted in The Forward that "this timing would, coincidentally, bring a verdict close to the date of AIPAC’s annual policy conference, scheduled this year for June 2."

    link to forward.com

    Oh, my! Will this spy-scandal stop half the members of Congress from attending the AIPAC powwow to deliver their obligatory ritual denunciations of demon Iran? Probably not … unless Mondoweiss surges to #1 in the blogosphere.

  32. Richard Witty says:

    American Goy,
    Do you see any numbers for US military support of Germany, Japan, South Korea, Phillipines, NATO, in the numbers that you've sited?

    Its a tragedy that such facts aren't checked, by the originating analysts, or those publications that repeat them, or those propagandists that repeat the repititions.

  33. Jim Haywood says:

    "Do you see any numbers for US military support of Germany, Japan, South Korea, Phillipines, NATO, in the numbers that you've sited [sic]?"

    Are you aware, Mr. Witty, that the numbers killed in Communist purges worldwide (100 million) are many times higher than the number killed in the Holocaust?

    Then by your "large numbers" logic, the Holocaust doesn't even deserve mention. Why, it's a veritable canard, by the dim lights of Witty logic.

  34. todd says:

    While I would rather see the U.S. pull out of Germany, Japan, South Korea and other places, as was done from the Philippines, Israel has never been nearly as important to ACTUAL events in U.S. history as the nations mentioned. How can anyone compare Israel's significance in U.S. history with that of Germany, Japan, South Korea or the Philippines? I think that the problem lies in why some people would make the comparison. I don't think that many Americans would.

  35. jgarbuz says:

    What the American Jewish institutions should do is to to prepare AMerican Jewry for an aliyah en masse to Israel, into Judah and Samaria, and chalk it up to another false belief that Jews can be secure in any other country, democratic or not. An Israel of ten million highly educated Jews will be strong enough to deal with its enemies without any outside help or aid.

  36. Richard Witty says:

    "Are you aware, Mr. Witty, that the numbers killed in Communist purges worldwide (100 million) are many times higher than the number killed in the Holocaust?"

    If the data is misleading, then a conclusion based on it, is LIKELY to be wrong (for all the reasons that political policies may be wrong: ineffective, cruel, wasteful, cornering)

  37. jgarbuz says:

    Bush has been a false friend to Israel. He is the very first American president to offer the Palestinians a state in Judah, Samaria and Gaza, and has pushed Israel for ever more compromises that are never reciprocated.What American Jewry should do is prepare to say "thanks a lot and goodbye" to America, as they have had to do to many host countries in the past, and re-settle Judah and Samaria ASAP. As for alliances, if the US objects, there are rising powers out there, like India, China and Russia again, that can be tapped into.After all, the Arabs have no problem with changing allegiances as it suits them, so Israel may have to do the same if pressed. We see what Bush has done to Serbia, and Israel is next. If we Jews have worn out our welcome, we should pack our bags and go, and start over as we've done dozens of times in history. We'll make it wherever we go if we work hard and have faith, as in the past.

  38. American says:

    End the AIPAC blacklist. Close down the ADL and SPLC spy networks. Pay reparations to the victims. Register all Israeli and Zionist lobbyists as lobbyists and prosecute all violators of FARA: If a politician has taken Israeli money without registering as a foreign lobbyist, he is a felon.

    Criminalize Zionism as terrorism retroactive to the attack on the USS Liberty. All tax deductable contributions to Zionist organizations should be viewed as tax fraud and penalized.

    Rescind US citizenship of all Israeli dual nationals.

    Start anti-trust proceedings against Jewish methnic cartels in industries where their ownership stake exceeds their percentage of the population (forfeiture of the excess could fund victims of the AIPAC, ADL, SLPC, etc., blacklists). End covert Affirmative Action for Jews at universities: Restrict their enrollment to their percentage of the population. Close segregated Jews only facilities and mainstream them: No racially segregated Hebrew schools: Let Jews join their Black brothers in the worst public schools in a show of solidarity.

    Begin treason prosecutions. Seize Zionist owned assets equal to all aid to Israel and all aid to Zionist front groups (like the Simon Wiesenthal Center which receives half of the total "arts" funding in California)–and then begin reparations talks.

    nd speaking of the Simon Wiesenthal Center–it should pay $1 million in reparations for each of the millions of the racist email posts it has made on other groups websites so that it could paint those groups as racists. SWC even provides training in this primitive trick to Canadian police "Hate Squads". (It is someone's hate for sure…)

    Close the Holocaust museums and reopen them as Armenian museums.

    And every Jewish child must grow up wearing the face mask of a Palestinian chld murdered by the Israelis: If the Jewish child, for even a moment, does not worship that Palestinian child, it is a hate crime and the Jewish child should be thrown into a concentration camp for hate crimes.

    Finally, Jews who paint swastikas on their own synagogues should be prosecuted as hate criminals, instead of being honored for their work in "alerting people to the real haters."

    Then, de-Zionization should begin.

    Just a few quick ideas.

    P.S.–If you love Israel so much, why don't you make Aliyah.

  39. jgarbuz says:

    To the author who writes that Israel has had little or no significance to the US, he is mostly correct. But I think Jews have. Jews have been in the Americas since 1654, and have had some impact, from inventing Levi Strauss blue jeans to creating the atomic bomb at Los Alamos that forced the Japanese to surrender. Not to mention a helluva lot in between. But, we're used to not being appreciated, so if we are no longer wanted, we do have a homeland called Israel, and it should be occupied by American Jews settling in Judah and Samaria before the US forces another enemy Arab state upon us in there and it becomes too late. Then Jews will have no place to run to anymore.

  40. The Friend Who Will Tell The Truth About Personal Hygeine says:

    Jewish elites risk engendering for everyday Jews not rage but the indifference felt by ordinary Germans toward their Jewish neighbors who were being led away to concentration camps. Collective guilt is necessarily a two way street. Debates that occur within the Jewish community must be tolerated when they occur among the gentiles. Never Again! should be as much a call to Jewish righteousness as a call to vigilance against "the other"–or else all the words of all the prophets are in vain. Focus not on who is Jewish or not. Focus on who is righteous or not. Jews' status a God's Chosen People makes them a cynosure, it is no guarantee of what the world will see when it looks–only the Jews themselves can dedicate themselves toward truth, progress, righteousness and all the other virtues. When they stray, they suffer.

  41. The Fanonite says:

    R.Witty writes: "We've seen it in the serial boycott obsession of elements of the British intelligentsia, who essentially seek to penalize and punish Israeli colleagues for little more than the original sin of being Israeli. It matters not at all to the boycott-bent if many of their targets are on-site leaders in the struggle for Israeli-Palestinian peace and reconciliation."

    I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and stop misrepresenting the aims of the boycott campaign. The boycott only targets institutions, not individuals. As a matter of fact, the Academic Boycott was initiated in SOLIDARITY with Israeli dissidents who were being hounded by their respective institutions for challenging the Zionist orthodoxy. The boycott declaration is clear on the subject that anyone who opposes the occupation is exempt from it. Also, we here in UK are quite happy to have others enforce a similar boycott against us where we wouldn't be invited to academic conferences etc unless we oppose the US-UK occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

  42. jgarbuz says:

    I did make aliyah, and did return to the US after ten years, because too many leftist traitor Jews are in control of things in Israel. But if the antisemitism in the US reaches a fewer pitch, and American JEws realize that it's time to go, and come EN MASSE to Israel and take over some of the government, we can remake Israel stronger and better than ever. As for US aid, it won't be necessary anymore once US Jews transfer their wealth and skills over there. Since the US has opened itself up to Muslims, it has been going down anyway. So in a decade or two it won't make much difference. By then China and India will be major powers, and China occupies Tibet and has many Chinese settlers in Tibet, which it claims as Chinese soil. Israel's achievements in agriculture, solar power, and in military matters are quite desirable commodities in the world, so I think it can make an adequate living without US aid.

  43. The Fanonite says:

    Sorry, the earlier post was meant for cj, not R.Witty.

  44. Todd says:

    To jgarbuz:

    I don't deny that there were/are talented Jews. I just don't buy the Jewish superiority claims, and I realize that the U.S. did very well before the "meritocracy," and it certainly would be better off not having experienced it.

    If Phil is right that Jews are calling the shots in America, then immigration, political correctness, multiculturalism, foreign policy, media and entertainment, education, etc. should be viewed in a very different light.

    American culture, society and identity have been turned completely upside down in the last thirty years, and if was done by a group of unassimilated immigrants (Jews seem to talk quite a bit about whether or not to assimilate) and their descendants, for their own benefit, I have a real problem-as most Americans should.

  45. jgarbuz says:

    To Todd,

    First of all, left wing Jews have done the same to Israel. Israel is as "multicultural" as the US, if not more so, and if you don't believe me, I invite you to visit Tel Aviv. It has every problem the US has, and then some.
    However, if rising antisemitism forces assimilationist and "one world" Jews in the US to realize that their misguided ideas have failed them, as usual, and the inevitable backlash has begun in earnest, then they may repent on their way to Israel as some former commie Jews did, especially those 800,000 that came to Israel in the 1990s.

    As for Jewish "superiority," I don't believe in it either. I lived my whole life as a Jew, and in Israel long enough to know it to be false. However, if Sweden with a population of ten million can do quite well, produce its own aircraft and what not, and survive without US aid, I do believe that with an influx of a few million more American Jews, Israel can do the same. All we need is the room, in Judea and Samaria to house them, and Israel will make out just fine. I do not believe that the Palestinian Arabs will ever accept and coexist peacefully with Israel, so it is best they move to other parts of the vast Arab world.
    They too can sell and/or take their property with them as I am suggesting American Jews do before it's too late.

  46. Ravenhawk says:

    Examples of Jewish Hate Speech.

    link to whatreallyhappened.com

    This appears to be what Judaism is really all about.

  47. Todd says:

    jgarbuz,

    I spent almost a year in Israel, and I noticed Jews from everywhere, but I didn't notice communities of non-Jewish immigrants. Is it the case now that Israel has significant non-Jewish immigrant communities, with elites brow-beating the majority to deny their own culture, heritage and right to land? That would surprise me!

    My time in Israel also made it clear to me that Jews are in no way superhumans or monsters.

    I'll admit to a certain respect for building a national identity and culture from the ground up. As far as building a nation goes, Israel has had far more help than many would admit. I would guess that most groups could have built a small nation as well with the backing that Israel has enjoyed.

    To be honest, my sympathies lie with the Palestinians and other neighbors of Israel who have suffered due to the founding of a Jewish state in the region. I'm not Jewish, and America is not a Jewish nation, so Palestine should not be a concern or burden for me, just as the Holocaust shouldn't be my burden or concern.

    You talk about an expected backlash against Jewish influence, and that seems to be a fairly common expectation among Jews. Talk of a backlash seems to admit that there has been duplicity that has damaged the majority, and should be punished in some form. Is that expected?

    As far as Israel's future goes, I just can't see much, no matter how many Jews migrate there, if the U.S. and Europe stop backing Israel. I don't know how powerful China or India will ever be, but I doubt that either will be as open to Jewish influence as the U.S. has been, or that either will be willing to play host-nation to Israel when there is little to gain, as the U.S. has done. I would guess that each nation has much more to gain from Iran and the Gulf States than from Israel.

    Either way, I think many Americans took notice when Israel tried to sell sensitive military equipment to China a few years back. Even the government objected! I really don't care what happens to Israel, as long as my government does not support the situation with money, aid, arms, or in any other way. Also, If Israel fails, I don't want the refugees.

  48. jgarbuz says:

    To "Ravenhawk"

    First of all, how did you spend a year in Israel? Did they renew your visa? On what basis did they let you stay a year?
    Israel is 25% non-Jewish, mostly Arabs, but my best friends there were Christian missionaries who love the country and have had and raised their children there.
    As for the vast amount of backing Israel has had, the US has poured a lot more into Iraq and Afghanistan with not much return. The US sells the Arab countries (most of whom would like to destroy it) almost three times as much arms as it does to Israel, which is why Israel has needed foreign aid. Without heavy arms sales to the ARabs, who outnumber Israel some 50 to 1, Israel would not have needed a dime to be successful. And seventy five percent of the aid goes directly from the US treasury to American defense companies such as Boeing and its workers and
    stockholders, so I don't see why Israel can't sell its OWN technology to China if it wants to. Most of the technology Israel has sold to China has been INDIGENOUS, Israeli designed and produced technology, and Congress knows it.
    But besides terror and oil, which pollutes the planet, I'm not sure what the US gains from the Arab world.
    But Sarkozy of France has renewed ties with Israel after a 40 year freeze, where France's connection with the Muslim countries only yielded it burning cars in Paris. When Israel-French connections were close, Mirage IIIs were best selling aircraft, and the French were better off overall. Maybe Sarkozy noticed that, explaining this sudden turnaround. So I'm not as worried about that either.

    Anyhow, if Israel fails, there will be no living Jewish refugees to go anywhere, so you don't have to fret about that. But it won't fail, I'm sure. The US might, but Israel will survive this time around. And if it doesn't, it has enough nukes to take the Arabs down with it, and fry them in their oil doing so.

  49. Neanderthal says:

    Let's see how understanding everyone is?

    (1) The holocaust was a bunch of crap.

    (2) Israel and american Jews are participating in genocide.

    (3) America and the State Department are over-run by the Jews.

    (4) The Media is run by jews.

    (5) HOllywood is run by jews.

    (6) It a crime to speak out?

    (7) the Jews have made it a crime punishble by incarceration for questioning the Holocaust?

    (8) Most American congressman and Senators are owned by AIPAC.

    I wonder how long it will take for this post to be removed?

  50. Neanderthal says:

    Let's see how understanding everyone is?

    (1) The holocaust was a bunch of crap.

    (2) Israel and american Jews are participating in genocide.

    (3) America and the State Department are over-run by the Jews.

    (4) The Media is run by jews.

    (5) HOllywood is run by jews.

    (6) It a crime to speak out?

    (7) the Jews have made it a crime punishble by incarceration for questioning the Holocaust?

    (8) Most American congressman and Senators are owned by AIPAC.

    I wonder how long it will take for this post to be removed?