causes the Times critic to squirm, and supply the usual sober context.
Context, context!! We all need more context! Context for Bush! Context for the Iraq war! Context for the Soviet Union and the Vietnam war! Context for the neocons and the Tonkin Gulf resolution and Lt. Calley!
So how many decades has the I-P conflict been depicted and narrated on MSM for the masses without context, with only the Israel side
shown, and that, the essentially Likud version? Suddenly we need context? This reminds me of how talk radio grew as a large chunk
of the masses's POV was never shown on MSM TV or print. And now, suddenly there's cries to reinstate the fairness doctrine on radio.
LOL
As happens on "this greatest nation on God's green earth," as zionist Michael Medved proclaims daily on talk radio. Remember him? The old
ivy league movie critic who, said, " Yes, the Jews control Hollywood, so what?"
Maybe the times could add context for this, or hire less biased reporters covering Israel.. you know, for better context?
Or is the call for context only used when the coverage isn't favorable to a particular narrative?
There's also this prime opportunity for the Times to add context.
From Civil Rights for Some Americans:
Context is needed for the left, as they habitually oversimplify, and to the point that their conclusions and implied (not articulated) proposals are wrong.
Context is needed for the left, as they habitually oversimplify, and to the point that their conclusions and implied (not articulated) proposals are wrong.
I'll think of that the next time someone presents Israeli hisroey under a victim narrative, rehashes the the same talking points about Palestinian rejecting a two-state solution in 2000, or mention that "the palestinians nevermiss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
What Richard is trying to say is that context needs to be applied to make Zionism look like less of a racist, bloody, and anti-human worldview. One wonders what context he has in mind.
hisroey = history
Context is seeing what occurs clearly, in all its complexity, INCLUDING the factors that form the attitudes of the parties.
To consider Israelis' concerns as void, is to hold an ostrich perspective.
Strange, if you look at the slide show, some quite interesting, you wonder why he left everything else out. Essentially saying: A terrorist suspect that may not be a suspect but a terrorist after all. The rest is silence. Or not really silence but an advise: Don't go there, it's not worth it.
From the press release of the Hugo Boss Prize:
compare:
Not even the book can be mentioned, and as a journalist he surely gets more press material than we do.
Now I remember. were I read about her before, it was in the context of the Venice Biennale 2007:
Wael Zuaiter
Book is unavailable via US Amazon, rather high prized for a new copy over here on Amazon Germany, but with one exception all used ones come from the US? But easily available via the Palestine network
Witty: "Context is needed for the left, as they habitually oversimplify"
But Witty has described himself as a man of the Left; as a liberal. I guess that's not his TRUE identity, because his TRUE identity is a Zionist, and one can't simultaneously be both. How many other US Jewish Zionist "liberals" and "democrats" will side with Zionism where the rubber meets the road? My guess would be nearly ALL. And they've all got one foot in America and one foot in Israel, and here they're just gathering nest eggs in anticipation of the day that they will have BOTH feet in Israel.
No wonder the GOP was so easily able to co-opt the Democrat Party on behalf of its wars for Zionism. No wonder the Democrat Party has so readily picked up the wars for Zionism that the GOP handed them on their way out the door in both '06 and '08: the upper echelons of the Democrat Party are filled with Jewish Zionist "liberals" like Witty who also have one foot in Israel.
yeah, it's kind of infinitely watered-down liberal imperialism.
Uppps!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBJTBIUtM8
@Witty
Context is seeing what occurs clearly, in all its complexity,"
This is correct.
" INCLUDING the factors that form the attitudes of the parties."
This is correct.
"To consider Israelis' concerns as void, is to hold an ostrich perspective"
True, and its the same regarding Palestinians' concerns, or regarding the concerns posted on this blog.
Nick Kollerstrom Holocaust challenger mp3 Sound:
link to morris108.wordpress.com
It seemed a decent review to me – the critic described the show and his reaction to it; if anything what came across was an attempt to be objective.
In fact it was a great review. This is just an example of Philip Weiss' paranoia concerning anything slightly critical of a Palestinian. The fellow has become hopeless, just as the fact that palestinian terrorism has caused the world to turn away from assisting the innocent arabs of the region.
Absolutely not, RoGER.
Well here we learn about a controversy surrounding the exhibtion
Jacir is 37, and obviously Michael Z. Wise knows. What does he want to hear? Yes Mr. Wise, I am actually American. My family emigrated here in 1971, they foresaw what would happen in Ramallah. Would he start a tirade, that she is feigning a connection to Ramallah? That she has no relation to the country at all? But isn't this clearly what he suspects? We do not know, but strictly we can understand what she might feel like being asked this question. How does Mr. Wise feel when he is asked if he is Jewish and/or a Zionist?
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Three points:
Initially the "installation" was a performance, as a reader I would like to know that. It makes a huge difference.
From the press release
This explains my confusion between book and film. I do not consider an allusion to an "unrealized" documentary project as balanced, since it carries the association of failure over to her work. It too fails. Add the above that he doesn't tell us the installation was initially a performance. The items resulting from a former performance demand imagination. Looked at without this knowledge they indeed may appear as some kind of "minimalist" objects. But fact is, they can't be reduced to it.
Wouldn't we hear in the NY times of other awards and/or another finalist status and/or about important exhibitions if the institutions were considered kosher? Meaning non-European? All this is carefully left out.
I said it the other day, and hear you go…Palestine's own Leni Riefenstahl.
I thought the review was balanced and fair. He just provided more context so an unknowing viewer would see the fuller picture. Sorry that he messed up your plans. haha!
This is an example of what has been going on since 1967 in Gaza. Note that this Israeli behavior is part of the occupation regime, and vastly predates the starvation blockade.
Israel allows export of 25,000 carnations from Gaza to Europe
Colin–you forgot to mention that Egypt is enforcing the blockade too.
This is what is meant by fair and balanced. You people are severely lacking.
You are correct. Egypt is enforcing the starvation blockade on its border with Gaza, while Israel enforces it along its border with Gaza, and along Gaza's seaward border onto international waters. We US taxpayers fork over $2+ billion per year to the Egyptian dictator Mubarak and his cronies as a bribe to do Israel's bidding in regional security issues. US subsidies to Zionism that have nothing to do with American interests don't all go directly to Israel. Another fat chunk, about $700 million, goes to Jordan.
Colin, good of you to be more honest.
However, what you define as being or not being in America's interest is strictly your opinion, not fact. Apparently leaders in this country don't see it that way.
Ultimately your point of view boils down to toppling the system and destroying this country. Few will join you in that.
Good of me to be more honest? Nothing I said was incorrect. I pointed out that Israel has been blockading Gaza since 1967, it only reaching starvation intensity since 2007 or 2008, depending on how you define it. Israel has been fully responsible for blockading Gaza from 1967-2005, and partially responsible from 2005 to the present, with the recent Egyptian culpability bought and paid for by American taxpayers courtesy of American Zionists.
You are wrong about how many American leaders support Zionism. The Lobby uses money to rule Congress with fear. It may take 50 years, but eventually that fear will dissolve, and we will see just how much American leaders like Israel, and how long the institutional resentment for being used like food animals lasts. It is foolish to mistake obedience for affection.
Which system and country do you think my views threaten to topple and destroy, and exactly how? I have no interest in destroying Israel, I merely want its treasonous partisans inside the United States to be forced to obey American law. Whether Israel survives as a Jewish state is not my concern. The security and prosperity of American is. Do you think that 'few' Americans are interested in putting America first? My moral duty before God is limited to supporting prevention of another Holocaust, not in supporting a rabidly racist colonial state. If I'm still alive when Israel finally fractures, I'll support open emigration of Israeli Jews to the United States, properly screened for war criminals of course, but I'll never support propping up an decaying state led by racist gangsters at the expense of my own country.
How is it ever in America's interests to underwrite and enable Mideast authoritarians, be they Egyptian, Saudi, or Zionist? We never would have been attacked on 9/11 if we hadn't. But it seems certain American Zionists WANTED America to get attacked on 9/11, hence the big, Bolshevik-like national security state and Homeland Security spying; hence the opportunity for big war profiteering; hence the Iraq war for Zionism.
Has there ever been a ethno-political movement more subversive, poisonous and consistently destructive to peace and prosperity than Zionism? Certainly not in the history of America.
Colin Murray: "My moral duty before God is limited to supporting prevention of another Holocaust"
How about preventing another Jewish-perpetrated holocaust? I've noticed that a certain generation of Americans likes to pat itself on the back for WWII even as it enables organized Jewish Zionism and its partners in their dedicated agenda to wreak neo-Bolshevik havoc as bad or worse than anything that the Nazis were capable of. Can a murderous people really ever be saved from itself? Are you doing God's work by saving a murderous people from themselves only so they can go on to murder again?
The Jews are perfectly capable of securing or not securing their own future based on their own behavior. It's called Free Will. Don't try to play God.
Let me clarify: the Jews believed they were carrying out their “leavening agent” role in their Jewish Bolshevik incarnation. They offhandedly murdered millions, and put it down to History's will. A direct line can be drawn from this to the Holocaust.
Organized Jewry thinks it can play God, and it almost invariably brings down a hellacious firestorm on its own head. In part due to Jewish influence, a significant percentage of Americans have adopted the same mentality, with the same results.
This is an elementary observation. The very act of attempting to play God is going to have detrimental consequences, no matter who you are.
In the period 1967-1987, Israel was not in fact blockading Gaza, in fact the free movement of goods was a contributing factor to the truck accident that sparked the First Intifada.
Colin, you are so far ahead of yourself in your power fantasies of screening Israeli "war criminals" (another Selektion of Jews, eh?) that your uninformed unintelligibility surfaces.
The funny thing with these leftwing goobs here, decrying wealth and power…is that they crave power themselves.
Our current system, though not perfect (no such thing as a perfect system) has checks and balances. These goobs are seeking to deconstruct our political infrastructure and replace it with what?
Can you imagine handing power over to the hateful people on this blog?
Can you imagine Rowan or Joachim running things? If you overlook the likelihood of their incompetency for a minute…can you IMAGINE what these dudes would be all about?
O.mi.gawd!
Seriously, read EVERYTHING that's written here and imagine how life would be under leadership with this mindset.
Pretty fecking scary, isn't it.
Talk about context.
I can't think of anything more horrifying.
Suzanne, are you sure you're half Catholic? Not a trace of it shows. Did you're mother happen to sneak off to Israel around the time of your conception and participate in some Zionist ritual/program?
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable living there. That way you would never have to be exposed to people who aren't slavering Judeophiles ever again. Other than Palestinians. And your kind knows how to deal with their kind, don't you? All kinds of "checks and balances" there, right?
what the hell is half Catholic? Is that the same as cafeteria Catholic? You're either Catholic or you're not. It's a faith based identity.
Nothing wrong with money–though obviously it's not the answer to everything. The Celtic Tiger could tell you that.
People who make sweeping whiny judgements against the rich and powerful sound like a bunch of jealous zeta males. It's quite unattractive.
Wow…now that I think of it…I wonder if it does boil down to something this primal: these guys just want access to beautiful women–and this is just pure low rank male jealousy against the silver backed alpha male.
How freaking weird would that be if it's the truth???? lolol!
Jacir, unlike more "folkloric" Palestinian artists like Ismail Shammout who consecrate the lost land in tangible vignettes, heightens the awareness of lost individuals, perhaps as a reflection of her own personal experience pinned down in Ramallah as the Israelis looked for a "wanted man." I am a little bit put off by her pistol fetish and her active obliviousness to how and why such individuals became "wanted", and it certainly explains her selection of Zuaiter as a subject–here is a Palestinian nationalist who was either a genuinely innocent man, or an intellectual with his ties to terrorism so carefully concealed that any actual involvement of his could be swept under the carpet. Perhaps the point being made was that Zuaiter was not going to be protected by his putative innocence any more than the Israeli Olympic team. Nadji al-Ali and Issam Sartawi could talk about Palestinian concerns for innocent intellectuals, if they were still alive.
Suzanne: "Nothing wrong with money…and this is just pure low rank male jealousy against the silver backed alpha male."
And this is how Jewry and other stunted, primitive thinkers view the world, and what keeps them in a perpetual state of survival of the fittest. This is their “vision”; this is their quest.
Contrast that with the widespread peace and prosperity secured by the Christian West by following the Christian ethos. The Jewish vision is crude, and begets savagery, greed and primalism, of the kind that is being visited upon the Mideast and increasingly America today — all Zionist-engineered. The Christian vision is refined, civilized, evolutionary, as Western civilization used to be before being infected with primitive Bolshevik thinking that reduces existence to which naked ape can clutch the most power and material gain.
All the money and power in the world will never change the crude Judeofascist mindset. Allowing Zionists anywhere near Western civilization is like casting pearls before swine.
Here's some Wiki info about Zuaiter:
Zuaiter was held for questioning by Italian police in August 1972 in relation to a bombing by the group Black September against an oil refinery, but was later released. The Israeli Mossad suspected him of being the head of Black September in Rome, and put him on an assassination list after Black September's attack in Munich. When he returned to his apartment building on the night of October 16, 1972, he was shot 11 times by two Israeli agents, killing him.
At the time Zuaiter was the PLO representative in Italy, and while Israel privately claimed he was a member of Black September and was involved in a failed plot against an El Al airliner, members of the PLO have argued that he was in no way connected. Abu Iyad, deputy-chief of the PLO, has stated that Zuaiter was "energetically" against terrorism.
Zuaiter
"Colin, you are so far ahead of yourself in your power fantasies of screening Israeli "war criminals" (another Selektion of Jews, eh?) that your uninformed unintelligibility surfaces."
LOL, I'd hardly call it a 'fantasy'. Many people don't think very far ahead. It's a prediction based on observing Israelis and American Zionists going out of their way to alienate everyone with their arrogance and entitlement. Exactly who considers Zionists friends? How many of these will be left in thirty years? It's not like Zionists are making new friends who will stand with them when things get tough. You are losing Europe, and you are losing America. Only a fool is deceived by absolute numbers: the trend of diminishing support is all one way, and it's not going to reverse because few people have sympathy for rabidly racist colonists. Or do you think Americans will support Israel for the next two hundred years? Sooner or later Israelis will stand on their own shunned by the rest of the world, completely by themselves except for a huge minority of Israeli Arabs, and surrounded by righteously hostile Arab states who also have nuclear weapons. Good luck with the reverse aliyah.
You don't seriously think gun-toting old-lady-beating schoolchild-harassing colonist lunatics are going to be welcome in the United States? Nor do we want twisted moral freaks like whoever ordered widespread cluster bombing of Lebanese farmland after the ceasefire had been agreed to, but in the last few hours before it went into effect. The day will come, mayhap it will take 50 years, when American Zionists have no influence on our foreign policy. Do you really think an American Congress, free to decide who to let into our country without Zionist influence, will have sympathy for criminals? I have no doubt we will do the right thing and let the vast majority of Israeli Jews in, but we owe foreign criminals nothing. Let them meet Palestinian justice.
You have a fantasy of sitting in judgement over Jews. I would hope (largely for the Palestinians sake) that the Palestinians will give up their genocidal fantasies and work out a modus vivendi with Israeli Jews. There will be no Third Exile, nor a Second Nakba, but rather something like a Dayton Agreement, where each gives up something to get something, because it is the Palestinians who are rather more likely to become the wandering Unpeople you would like the Jews to be, with your fantasy of putting American Jews, those intolerable strangers at home in your midst, with their pretensions to representation in the Republic, in their place.
Spare us the melodrama, Eurosbra. It's all in your head. And nearly everything that's come down on the heads of the Jews, they've brought down on themselves. Grow up and face that hard reality. The plight of the Jews is not nearly so much externally inflicted as it always has been self-inflicted, despite what the shallow Hollywood narrative and other Jewish-sourced narratives might have taught you. Why don't your read some gentile assessments of what the Jews are all about before your presume to regurgitate what you think you know.
I believe Eurosabra put the pieces of the puzzle together and shown you the picture. That you are blind is no mortgage on the truth.
I must have hit a chord for you to proffer such nonsense, Eurosabra. A fantasy of sitting in judgment over Jews? Wow, I couldn't make up that stuff. :) Perhaps there is something to the notion of 'excessive victimhood'. I'll call anyone who is a criminal, a criminal. I liken your response to a colonist lunatic in a police lineup complaining upon being singled out. He isn't being singled out because he is a Jew, he is being singled out because he is the perp. Do you seriously think the rest of us are going to agree that only Jews can criticize Jews? The reflexive withdrawal into victimhood identity, if that is indeed what it is, may be psychologically satisfying, but it isn't very useful in understanding the larger world.
You are dreaming if you think that there is going to be a solution akin to the Dayton agreement. There are too many colonies for a sovereign Palestinian state to be created, and there is not even remotely enough political will in Israel to remove enough of them. Do you think the violence will ever end if there is not a legitimate Palestinian state? The Israeli Arab birthrate is higher than the Jewish birthrate. And then there is the birthrate in the OPT, whose residents are the responsibility of a rabidly racist Israeli government. What solutions can arise from those initial conditions? The time when there was a possibility of a happy ending to this story is past. It is now a matter of choosing the least unhappy. You Zionists are like six guys crammed into a car heading over a cliff, each pulling on the wheel trying to go in a different direction. The one poor guy trying to steer it in any direction other than over the cliff, representing the Gush Shalom and refusenik portion of Israeli society, is hopelessly outmatched. The rest of us can only hope that enough of you have the sense to bail out before careening into the black, and that you run over as few Palestinians as possible on the way.
blah blah blah…Colin and ilk have been droning on for 40 years now and have accomplished nothing. And will continue to accomplish nothing. "The rest of us" he purports to speak for simply do not share his extremist mindset. Like a certified nut, he somehow thinks tomorrow is a new dawn.
People who live in a fantasy world, waste away in a fantasy world. Time is passing you by. Get some help for your sickness and rejoin the human race.
Simply declaring a two-state solution impossible does not mean that the territory cannot be partitioned, even if de facto. It becomes a question of how much the Palestinian militants are willing to suffer to continue in their quest to destroy Israel. Demographics are a function of the desperation of the people involved, which was why Croatia was given a free hand after the rocket strikes on Zagreb. The Palestinians are still in the West Bank precisely BECAUSE Israel has no wish to commit an inhumane act as long as the threat is so paltry, moreover, despite the rhetoric the fact that the actual suffering inflicted by this dispute is nothing on the scale of Yugoslavia or even the Yemeni civil war makes a stabilization along the present lines (as '49-'67) MORE, not LESS, likely, as does the Palestinian dependence on East Jerusalem hospitals and Israeli infrastructure.
The Second Intifada was in many ways a Palestinian auto-genocide designed to inflict a multitude of mini-apocalypses on Israel, and in many ways the message was heard considering planning for an eventual large-scale rocket war from the West Bank. You may consider that Croatia is still, even today, a respected and accepted member of the family of nations, despite the not-inconsiderable Serb Lobby. The United States (regrettably) does allow its allies to act in extremis to preserve their territories and their capitals, and you may find that Israel is not the dependent client or international pariah you claim if and when the Palestinians force the issue.
For the rest, you have too many lurid fantasies of Jewish death for me to take you seriously as anything other than a potential genocidaire. How many Palestinians does your fetid imagination envision in the ashtrays of that putative Israeli car?
Suzanne has referred to herself in this blog as half Irish and half Jewish. She doesn't dwell on being Catholic, or being Christian. She rises to support Israel's conduct constantly. Check it out. In comparison, another half Irish-half Jew, Phil Maher, constantly ridicules the Catholic church–and there's enough to ridicule, and it has been done for a long time in public and in the ivory towers for ages. The first time
somebody (That X government espert, his last name begins with an S) questioned whether or not rubber-stamping Israeli actions was really in the USA's interest, Maher was stuck dumb. He obviously had never
even considered whether it was wise to always conflate the USA best interests with the Israeli regime's.
More yaya from Citizen who makes uneducated guesses about things he knows nothing about.
I'll keep the sick sucker in the dark so he can continue to obsess.