The only problem with people who make aliyah is that they don't just stay there. They come back here to fill our airwaves. Here is Caroline Glick, a columnist at the Jerusalem Post who says she is also "the senior fellow for Middle Eastern Affairs at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC. and... [I] travel several times a year to Washington where I routinely brief senior administration officials and members of Congress on issues of joint Israeli-American concern." Seems like she's putting on airs. Her advice:
In their view the failed "two-state solution" should be replaced with what Bolton refers to as the "three-state solution." All three analysts begin their analyses with the assertion that Israel is uninterested in controlling Gaza , Judea and Samaria. Since the Palestinians have shown they cannot be trusted with sovereignty, the three argue that the best thing to do is to return the situation to what it was from 1949 to 1967: Egypt should reassert its control over Gaza and Jordan should reassert its control over Judea and Samaria....
THE SAME UNFORTUNATELY is the situation in both Egypt and Jordan. Hamas's Nazi-like Jew hatred is shared by the vast majority of Jordanians and Egyptians. Islamist calls for the extermination of the Jewish people and the destruction of Israel dominate the mosques, seminaries, universities and media outlets in both countries. Popular opposition to the peace treaties that Egypt and Jordan signed with Israel stands consistently at more than 90 percent in both countries.
This is crazy-- calls for the extermination of the Jewish people "dominate the... universities and media outlets" of Jordan and Egypt? And it's racist. Pakistanis get a state, Indians get a state, Israel gets a state, Kosovars get a state. But Palestinians were promised one 62 years ago and "cannot be trusted with sovereignty"?
(Phil Weiss)
The Palestinians rejected a state. For 19 years after, they made no petition to Egypt and Jordan annexed the rest.
In fact, the only state they wanted was Israel.
Every time they reject what is offered, th offer will be smaller.
i understand the latest offer is a subway shop. Serving ham sandwiches.
Phil, you've got to try harder. The stuff you're writing is too easy to dismantle. I'd like a challange, but nothing to do with spelling, if you please.
"This is crazy– calls for the extermination of the Jewish people "dominate the… universities and media outlets" of Jordan and Egypt?"
Don't take away her fantasy. It's all that gives her life meaning.
Worth a read! And there are quite a few other interesting documents here as well. If you're interested, do download them before they disappear into thin air.
It's worth noting that once again other states have used Israel's genocidal aggression as cover or pretext for their own: Sri Lanka launched a genocidal air and artillery assault against the Tamils of the Jaffna peninsula, right after Israel launched its genocidal air and artillery assault on the inhabitants of Gaza.
The Borders of Destiny
BTW, I think I remember Caroline Glick as a Hozeret bitshuvah recruited by Aish Hatorah or Ohr Somayach back in the 1980s.
For more info on Aish see Obsession Related blog Entries.
Caroline's own rather pampered life-style does not prevent her from referring slightingly to members of her profession with whom she disagrees as "the international jet set".
My own preferred term is Tom Waits' "jet trash".
as in "his wife was a used piece of jet trash…" (Frank's Wild Years)
Jim Lobe has made a few interesting posts about Glick, especially this one:
Read the conclusion of Wallerstein's weekly commentary, which pretty much sums things up:
"The three-element strategy of Israel is decomposing. The iron fist no longer succeeds, much as it didn't for George Bush in Iraq. Will the United States link remain firm? I doubt it. And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not. Can Israel now switch to an alternative strategy, of negotiating with the militant representatives of the Arab Palestinians, as an integral constituent of the Middle East, and not as an outpost of Europe? It seems quite late for that, quite possibly too late. Hence, the chronicle of a suicide foretold."
http://fbc.binghamton.edu/249en.htm
TOM WAITS
Frank's Wild Years (For Frankie Z.)
Well Frank settled down in the Valley
and hung his wild years
on a nail that he drove through
his wife's forehead
he sold used office furniture
out there on San Fernando Road
and assumed a $30,000 loan
at 15 1/4 % and put down payment
on a little two bedroom place
his wife was a spent piece of used jet trash
made good bloody marys
kept her mouth shut most of the time
had a little Chihuahua named Carlos
that had some kind of skin disease
and was totally blind. They had a
thoroughly modern kitchen
self-cleaning oven (the whole bit)
Frank drove a little sedan
they were so happy
One night Frank was on his way home
from work, stopped at the liquor store,
picked up a couple Mickey's Big Mouths
drank 'em in the car on his way
to the Shell station, he got a gallon of
gas in a can, drove home, doused
everything in the house, torched it,
parked across the street, laughing,
watching it burn, all Halloween
orange and chimney red then
Frank put on a top forty station
got on the Hollywood Freeway
headed north
Never could stand that dog
"Don't take away her fantasy. It's all that gives her life meaning.'
Glick is brilliant. Truly a great writer.
Spend some time in Arab countries and you will find everything she says is correct.
My Coptic friends tell one horror story after another about their lives in Egypt and how non Muslims are treated. What I saw of Jordan it was no better than Egypt.
The whole Arab world is a seething cauldron of hate.
And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not.
Posted by: delia ruhe | February 03, 2009 at 01:49 AM
Delia, you can honestly look at Durban and say that with a straight face? World public opinion, as based on the goose-step voting in the UN, has never looked sympathetically on Israel since 1948.
Israel is able to ignore international public opinion as long as it can trade freely with the world.
This is where Anti-Apartheid boycott can be very effective. The push for Same Land/Same Rights is very powerful, and capable of engaging public opinion.
I have read some of Glick's articles in the JP…one thing that stands out is her hatred of the US. One in particular about the need to wipe out Iran was really hysterical..she was calling the US every name in the book,accusing us of being cowards because we wouldn't attack Iran for Israel and then at the same time saying who needs the US, Israel was so powerful it could do it itself.
She is one sick junkyard bitch.
"I have read some of Glick's articles in the JP…one thing that stands out is her hatred of the US. One in particular about the need to wipe out Iran was really hysterical..she was calling the US every name in the book"
Hated of the US? Names? Hysterical? Why not give us some examples. Links?
Glick on the one hand tends to say that the interests of the US and Israel are identical, and on the other that the U.S is constraining Israel in its self-defense.
She also believes Hizbollah and Hamas are 100% controlled by Iran, and wants a US, and if not that, and Israeli attack on Iran.
I don't understand why a Jewess from Chicago has more right to live on the land than the child of someone who was expelled from the land a couple of decades ago.
Unlike most American Zionists, Glick put her money where her mouth is–she served in the IDF.
i get the impression that the intelligence agencies are startint to step up their efforts to influence popular opinion against israel.
if so then its katie bar the door.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/02/newspeak-doublethink/
Gaza was to Al Jazeera what Gulf war 1991 was to CNN. This time CNN had no reporters in Gaza. Israeli censorship kept Western media out of Gaza behind Israeli borders. But for Al Jazeera, it was a 24/7 horror news channel watched round the clock for three weeks – kids crying next to their dead relatives, many of the 1,300 killed (including 400 children) and some 4,000 wounded, mosques reduced to rubble, schools destroyed, collapsed apartment buildings, so many recruitment posters for suicide bombers.
Even media in Arab countries run by pro-Western governments used analogies in their commentaries about the Holocaust and Israeli war crimes. Some Arab networks reminded their viewers that Hamas had triggered the carnage by shooting rockets into Israeli towns but still pulled no punches showing devastation and family dislocation brought about by Israeli retaliation.
Eva, Israel is able to ignore International Opinion because that Opinion is morally indefensible. Might does not make right and the world knows it.
Foreign inteligence communities increasing efforts to influence popular opinion against israel?
Sammy, that horse left the barn years ago. You're a day late and a dollar short.
Hi, this is a message from Alf Ventress:
If a family in a neighbourhood acts aggressively and violently on a daily basis, most societies would act. If the family in question have no right to the house in the first place, it's beginning to look criminal, and they could certainly be thrown out by the law enforcement. If the original occupants of the house are doomed to live in the garden-shed/ chicken-shed, what would you call the people who caused this situation? But this is not all, – oh, no – then you don't know what kind of people we are dealing with here. On December 27 the Masters of the house actually attacked the chicken-shed with some of the most advanced weapons (american) money can buy? What would you do with them, and what would you do with America, who apparently support this behaviour? Shouldn't criminal proceedings be commenced against Israel and its powerful backer? If someone backs criminal behaviour, what would be the right term for this? Americans please help to coine…..yourself.
"The Palestinians rejected a state. For 19 years after, they made no petition to Egypt and Jordan annexed the rest. In fact, the only state they wanted was Israel. Every time they reject what is offered, th offer will be smaller. i understand the latest offer is a subway shop. Serving ham sandwiches."
"Sammy, that horse left the barn years ago. You're a day late and a dollar short."
These are the substance-free platitudes of Thomas Friedman, with no effort at disguise. The responsive commentary to your drivel is too kind. You are a plagiarist and a moron, and the arguments of yours that I have read to date are completely devoid of factual support.
marc b.
"i get the impression that the intelligence agencies are startint to step up their efforts to influence popular opinion against israel."
You're not going to get all weepy and suicidal if that turns out not to be the case, right?
I think intelligence is more interested in the Islamic/left-wing/stormfront trinity of thugs.
If only some of your analogy reflected truth.
The family in the house have the right to the house and have title to the house, both right and title confirmed by law.
The chickens, upset that they don't own the house, feel their claim is just based on alien chicken moralirt in the book "Egg".
The family, fed up with the constant acts of violence on a daily basis, had the chickens for dinner.
PETA complained and wanted ot try the family, but most people laughed at them. In the meantime, new chickens have shown up.
I wonder if they will be content or will they invent reasons to be cooked?
the Islamic/left-wing/stormfront trinity of thugs
well, good luck finding that.
well, Caroline seems to have gone well beyond anything that Bibi could possibly agree to:
… The best way to move forward is to reject the calls for a solution and concentrate instead on stabilization. With rockets and mortars launched from Gaza continuing to pummel the South despite Operation Cast Lead, and with the international community's refusal to enforce UN Security Council resolutions barring Iran from exporting weapons, it is clear that Gaza will remain an Iranian-sponsored, Hamas-controlled area for as long as Hamas retains control over the international border with Egypt. So Israel must reassert control over the border. It is also clear that Hamas and its terrorist partners in Fatah and Islamic Jihad will continue to target the South for as long as they can. So Israel needs to establish a security zone inside of Gaza wide enough to remove the South from rocket and mortar range. From an economic perspective, it is clear that in the long run, Gaza's only prospect for development is an economic union of sorts with the largely depopulated northern Sinai. For years, Egypt has rejected calls for economic integration with Gaza. Cairo should be pressured to reassess its position as Israel stabilizes the security situation in Gaza itself.
As for Judea and Samaria, Israel should continue its military control over the areas in order to ensure its national security. It should also apply its law to the areas of Judea and Samaria that are within the domestic consensus. These areas include the Etzion, Adumim, Adam, Ofra and Ariel settlement blocs and the Jordan Valley. Israel should end its support for the PLO-Fatah-led PA, and support the empowerment of non-jihadist elements of Palestinian society to lead a new autonomous authority in the areas. These new leaders, who may be the traditional leaders of local clans, should be encouraged to either integrate within Israel or seek civil confederation with Jordan. Jordan could take a larger role in the civil affairs of the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria, by for instance reinstating their Jordanian citizenship which it illegally revoked in 1988. At the same time, Israel should end its freeze on building for Israeli communities in the areas …
Chris Berel's recipe for chicken dinner, above comes from his favorite book, the Talmud. In the Talmud it is written: 'Only the Jew is human. Gentile peoples are not called humans, but animals.' Since we Jews see Gentiles as animals, we call them only Goy."
Chris—lol! Love the chicken analogy.
Jews=human
Non-Jews=chickens
Your are right, Chris & Suzanne.
Let's keep in touch with your very literal version of A Modest Proposal.
Funny, one of your friends came up with the chicken analogy, now you want to blame me?
Sounds like another one of those "Arabs murdering Arabs but blaming a Jew" episode.
This was done by the Israeli:
Chris, and everyone watching this thread, if you go back up on the thread, you will see that Chris, the Israel Firster, is the first to say the analogy involves humans versus chickens, lower species–Chris responded to the original analogy by calling certain humans less than human–very talmudist.
If you go back, you'll find Alf discussing inhabitants of a chicke shed. Who lives in a chicken shed? Chickens.
It appears that Citizen loses again. Must suck.
chris berel: Alf described the humans relegated to living in a chicken shed. You, chris, morphed those humans into literal chickens. Anyone who desires can read the thread. chris berel's logic is
standard hasbara, borrowed from Julius Streicher. HItler lives in Israel, and in the USA in the form of Jewish organizations hell bent
to save Israel no matter what it does at the expense of normal Americans. And it is progressing. America, Awake!
Israel is an artifact of European colonialism.
Funny, many ultra-orthodox jews in Israel say the same thing.