Jim Lobe takes on Elliott Abrams again

Neocon gotterdammerung continues. This time wise Lobe doubts Abrams's statement about how arms are allegedly making their way from Iran to Hamas. (Thanks to Dave Reed)

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  1. LeaNder says:

    Is it any wonder, lots of "us" love Jim Lobe as a prominent voice of reason in our deeply ideological times.

    Now some here surely consider him as a mental collaborator with Hamas or terrorism generally.

  2. blister says:

    Check out Abram's recent job, and the usual organs.link to ips.org

    Nobody questioned his appointment back in the day, but now look at the campaign by zionists to kill Obama's pick for Abram's old job.

  3. Citizen says:

    Dave Reed knows reality, unlike American zionists. Here's a small dose from him–you can go to his web site and read more:

    October 11, 2004 / West Bank, 2004 / No Discussion
    Happy birthday to my mother!

    It has been a hard two weeks in Palestine. Settlers dressed in black with ski masks on attacked two Christian Peacemakers as they were escorting children to school along a road near some settlements. The attackers came from the Ma’on settlement which is known to be an ideological settlement. According to the U.S. ‘Road Map’ this settlement should have been dismantled already.

    The attackers beat Chris Brown (www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml), a long time CPT activist, and Kim Lamberty with chains and baseball bats. They knocked Chris to the ground by hitting him in the head with a stone. He is still in the hospital recovering from body-wide contusions and a punctured lung. Kim suffered body-wide contusions, a broken arm and a severely injured kneecap. She is still not able to walk and is in constant pain several days after the attack.

    A Palestinian man near Nablus was shot in the neck by Israeli soldiers. Settlers entered the mans farmland and began to harass and beat him. When soldiers arrived, they shot the Palestinian. The strong presence of international and Israeli activists in the area around Nablus have prevented wide-spread abuses thus far, but daily harassment, injury and death are continuing to occur during the harvest period.

  4. chris berel says:

    2004?
    Victims of Palestinian Violence & Terrorism – 2004

    Jan 13, 2004 – Ro'i Arbel, 29, of Talmon, was killed in a terror shooting ambush near his home in Samaria. Three other passengers of the vehicle were wounded. The Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

    Jan 29, 2004 – Eleven people were killed and over 50 wounded, 13 of them seriously, in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus no. 19 at the corner of Gaza and Arlozorov streets in Jerusalem. Both the Fatah-related Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, naming the bomber as Ali Yusuf Jaara, a 24-year-old Palestinian policeman from Bethlehem. The victims: Avraham (Albert) Balhasan, 28, of Jerusalem; Rose Boneh, 39, of Jerusalem; Hava Hannah (Anya) Bonder, 38, of Jerusalem; Anat Darom, 23, of Netanya; Viorel Octavian Florescu, 42, of Jerusalem; Natalia Gamril, 53, of Jerusalem; Yechezkel Isser Goldberg, 41, of Betar Illit; Baruch (Roman) Hondiashvili, 38, of Jerusalem; Dana Itach, 24, of Jerusalem; Mehbere Kifile, 35, of Ethiopia; and Eli Zfira, 48, of Jerusalem.

    Feb 22, 2004 – Eight people were killed and over 60 wounded, 11 of them school pupils, in a suicide bombing on Jerusalem bus no. 14A near the Liberty Bell Park. The Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, which was carried out by Mohammed Za'ul, from the Bethlehem area. The victims: Ilan Avisidris, 41, of Jerusalem; Lior Azulai, 18, of Jerusalem; Yaffa Ben-Shimol, 57, of Jerusalem; Rahamim Doga, 38, of Mevasseret Zion; Yehuda Haim, 48, of Givat Ze'ev; St.-Sgt. Netanel Havshush, 20, of Jerusalem; Yuval Ozana, 32, of Jerusalem; and Benayahu Zuckerman, 18, of Jerusalem.

    Tons more where that came from.

  5. LeaNder says:

    Tons more from the other side too. Here just a very special case:

    On Monday, 26-year-old Tel Aviv resident Julian Soufir, who is suspected of having committed the murder, told police "I decided to murder an Arab."

    Jerusalem mayor seeks terror victim status for murdered Arab
    By Roni Singer-Heruti, Jonathan Lis and Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondents

    Jerusalem Mayor Uri Lupolianski urged the state on Tuesday to grant the family of East Jerusalem taxi driver Taysir Karaki, who was murdered Monday, the benefits reserved for families of terror victims. Lupolianski instructed the city's social welfare department to aid the family.

    On Monday, 26-year-old Tel Aviv resident Julian Soufir, who is suspected of having committed the murder, told police "I decided to murder an Arab."

    The police was preparing for a possible retaliation Monday, fearing a reciprocal murder in a mixed Arab-Jewish town, or a Jewish city situated in close proximity to an Arab population.

    Police said their initial investigation revealed that the suspect, an immigrant from France whose family lives in Netanya, went to Jerusalem on Monday morning to find a taxi driver to murder.

    They discovered the murder of Taysir Karaki, 35, from Beit Haninah north of the capital, almost by chance after they stopped two young men walking down the middle of a Tel Aviv street at around 4:00 P.M., near Yonah Hanavi Street.

    The police approached them with a routine request for identification. One of the men told the police that he had "done something in the apartment," and asked the police to accompany him to the nearby dwelling, where they found the victim lying dead inside. "I turned around and immediately handcuffed him," said Avrahali Vanda, one of the arresting officers.

    Police said the victim's throat had been slit a few hours before the body was found. His taxi was parked outside.

    The Tel Aviv Magistrate's Court extended Soufir's remand by 10 days Tuesday, and the remand of his 21-year-old brother, whom they believe reached the apartment shortly after the murder and remained with the killer until the two were apprehended, by two days. However, the police do not believe the brother took part in the crime.

    At the remand hearing, Soufir's attorney argued that the suspect is not fit to stand trial. "As far as we understand, he can't differentiate between good and bad, makes things up and speaks to ghosts and goblins that dictate his life," Soufir's attorney said. Apparently, the police were called to Soufir's Tel Aviv apartment about a month ago after his wife complained that he had attacked her. The suspect's mental stability was questioned during that incident as well and he was sent to Abarbanel mental hospital for an evaluation, but he was released shortly after.

    In contrast, the police claim that it seemed to them that the suspect "knew exactly what he was talking about when he described the event, and his memory was good. He also supplied a logical explanation for his actions."

    Soufir is scheduled to unergo a psychiatric evaluation prior to standing trial.

    Police say the suspect, who is newly religious, seems to have had no prior acquaintance with the victim. "Therefore, at the crime scene itself we began to suspect that this might be a case of murder stemming from nationalistic motives," said Chief Superintendent Avi Neuman, a Yarkon region detective.

    The suspect said he went to Jerusalem because he thought he would be able to find an Arab victim more easily there. "We don't know whether he planned it two hours before or two weeks before, but there are certainly signs he planned it," Brigadier General Hagai Dotan, the commander of the Yarkon region police, told Haaretz.

    The suspect entered the victim's taxi in Jerusalem and asked to be driven to Tel Aviv. They apparently made one stop along the way at the suspect's request. "When they arrived, the suspect persuaded the victim to come up to the apartment," apparently with an offer to use the bathroom before going home, Neuman said. The suspect then allegedly attacked the victim with a knife he had prepared ahead of time.

    The suspect rented the apartment with his wife two months ago, but they are apparently now separated. Neighbors said they did not know the couple, except that they were French. One neighbor said she saw the suspect arrive for prayers daily at the neighborhood synagogue.

    Karaki's father, Yasser Karaki, told Haaretz his son, who was married and the father of four children ages six to 12, had driven the children to school and set off for work at 8:30 A.M. "He was a good guy, he was not involved in politics; all he wanted to do was make a living for his children," the elder Karaki said.

    The few dozen friends and relatives who gathered on Monday at the Karaki house seemed shocked at the idea Karaki was murdered for nationalistic reasons. A neighbor, Wahib Liftawi, said the police called his nearby grocery store.

    "They told us Taysir had had an accident and we should go to the police station in Neve Yaakov," Liftawi said. "Khaled, Taysir's brother, went there and then to Tel Aviv to identify the body. We heard on the news that French people took him to Tel Aviv. They asked him to help them to the apartment with their luggage and then they stabbed him. Allah will not forgive them; he was a good boy."

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