Says a smart friend: Look carefully at the Oliphant cartoon. He uses the clouds and
the
ground as bars to make it clear its the Israeli flag, not simply the Star of David–thus not antisemitic. Without the bars, it says something about Jews. As the flag, it's a critique of Israel, not Jews. Also the soldier could be any goose stepping fascist, not necessarily Nazi. Considering the next foreign minister has been widely called facist, and recommended nuking Gaza, I see no reason to criticize it
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Very good cartoon.
Even if it weren't a flag, why bother? They sure said a lot about those Germans and how fascist they were, not individually, but as a people. When this can be said about one group, it can be said about other groups.
I like how the fascist is headless, marching along with thoughtless abandon.
Oliphant is one of the greatest political cartoonists alive. Who says this is "anti-semitic?" Let me guess — Melanie Phillips??
The figure is headless because Oliphant has difficulty drawing Rahm Emmanuel's face.
You got it all wrong you morons. The fascists are you. And you're chickens too.
And mister Mondowoshkeiss is a liar. He whose name he dareth not to speak only suggested nuking the Asuan, if ever Egypt were to attack Israel. That way he showed how much the man of peace he is really, making it that much harder for Egypt to start a war when they know what's at stake.
And, what you call "critique" of Israel, straight-thinking people call "demonization". As in "spreading vicious lies about someone in order to make them look inhumane and stifle any attempts at reasoned rebuttals".
That's why you're fascists. Why you're chickens, one can only guess. Too hapy a childhood, perhaps?
For Witty, the legal scholar
"[The Ottoman Land Code of 1858] required the registration in the name of individual owners of agricultural land, most of which had never previously been registered and which had formerly been treated according to traditional forms of land tenure, in the hill areas of Palestine generally masha'a, or communal usufruct. The new law meant that for the first time a peasant could be deprived not of title to his land, which he had rarely held before, but rather of the right to live on it, cultivate it and pass it on to his heirs, which had formerly been inalienable…Under the provisions of the 1858 law, communal rights of tenure were often ignored…Instead, members of the upper classes, adept at manipulating or circumventing the legal process, registered large areas of land as theirs…The fellahin [peasants] naturally considered the land to be theirs, and often discovered that they had ceased to be the legal owners only when the land was sold to Jewish settlers by an absentee landlord…Not only was the land being purchased; its Arab cultivators were being dispossessed and replaced by foreigners who had overt political objectives in Palestine."
Rashid Khalidi, "Blaming The Victims," ed. Said and Hitchens (Ed. note – to be fair – like is done these days attending the theatre – we must provide some context – what we have here are two anti-Semites and one self hating Jew.)
"We must expropriate gently the private property on the state assigned to us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discretely and circumspectly. Let the owners of the immoveable property believe that they are cheating us, selling us things for more than they are worth. But we are not going to sell them anything back."
(Theodore Herzl, 12 June 1895) ( Ed. note – context again – now that’s a real Jew)
"My friend, take care. When you recognize the concept of 'Palestine', you demolish your right to live in Ein Hahoresh. If this is Palestine and not the Land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders. If this is Palestine, then it belongs to a people who have lived here before you came. Only if it is the Land of Israel do you have a right to live in Ein Hahoresh and in Deganiyah B. If it is not your country, your fatherland, the country of your ancestors and of your sons, then what are you doing here? You came to another people's homeland, as they claim, you expelled them and you have taken their land."
(Menahem Begin, quoted in Noam Chomsky's "Peace in the Middle East?")
"This is what used to be called 'Jew after Jew'… It meant expansion, more Jews, more villages, more settlements. Twenty years ago we were 600,000; today we are near three million. There should be no Jew who says 'that's enough,' no one who says 'we are nearing the end of the road.' …It is the same with the land. …there will be complaints against you if you come and say: 'up to here.' Your duty is to not stop; it is to keep your sword unsheathed, to have faith, to keep the flag flying. You must not call a halt – heaven forbid – and say 'that's all; up there, up to Degania, to Musfallasim, to Nabal Oz!' For that is not all." (Moshe Dayan, 1968) (Ed. note – definitely real).
More context please:
"The population of Palestine was basically composed of Moslem and Christian Palestinian Arabs. The Palestinians had lived in the country since the dawn of history. They did not come to Palestine with the Moslem Arab invasion of the seventh century as is sometimes erroneously thought. They are the earliest and the original inhabitants of Palestine. The Palestinians of today are the descendants of the Canaanites, the Philistines, and the other early tribes which inhabited the country. Professor Maxime Rodinson points out that the Arab population of Palestine was native in all senses of that word. There were infusions of other racial elements into the Palestinian stock, mainly from the Greeks, the Romans, the Moslem Arabs and the Crusaders. But this Palestinian stock, which comprises both Moslems and Christians, continued to constitute the main element of the population until the majority of the original inhabitants of Palestine were displaced by the Israelis in 1948."
(Henry Cattan, 1973 – author Palestine, the Arabs, and Israel ) (Ed. note – not sure about this one – but considering all the canards – he’s most likely ………..)
"We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them, … we'll insert a strip of Jewish settlements in between the Palestinians, and then another strip of Jewish settlements right across the West Bank, so that in 25 years' time, neither the United Nations nor the United States, nobody, will be able to tear it apart." (Ariel (Arik) Sharon, 1973)
They bought it fair and square right Witty – merely a problem for the courts – right Witty? can’t be denied – wow, I finally get it. I know – the beauty of Talmudic argument (and hence our legal system) is that anyone can prove anything – therefore anyone can believe anything – even going so far as to prove yourself better than G-D , e-gad. So you, Witty, will continue to believe anything (the only thing) that you know. The rest of us can just go on believing our lying eyes. Sorry, man. I used to be disgusted – now I’m finally amused – but keep coming at us – there is a certain deranged brilliance there. Shell Shell Shell Siderot , Bom Bom Bom Iran
Litigate this, dewd -
"Ben-Gurion said that anyone who approaches the Zionist problem from a moral aspect, he is not a Zionist." (Moshe Dayan, September 1967)
I guess my memory is failing Witty. What court was it that you said should solve “sovereignty” issues ?
Who am I as a white guy on Turtle Island to complain about genocide , you say ? Actually I’m not complaining about genocide – - – In the immortal words of John Wayne and Golda Meir – those savages weren’t doing anything with the land anyway. I am just a selfish muthafuka – I want my money back. Yea I know the Jews helped us white guys with our genocide by financing much of the slave industry but enough is enough. Things are hurting here at home and it seems that Israel could still get plenty of support from all those rich Zionist over-achievers on Wall St. Oh, I forgot, that is our money too. Well as you can see I haven’t thought this thing all the way through. But you get my drift. It’s high time for your shitty little entity to get off the cart and start pulling as the Friedmanites like to say.
Made ya think there didn’t I – oh come on – just an eenzy, teeny, weeny bit ? no ? Oh well you probably don’t read much of this stuff anyway – but I am still yours and . . . .
Waiting for a thought provoking response . . .
P.S. – Uh Oh – Turks are becoming a problem again – Ottoman archives show [Jerusalem] land deeds forged . . . . .oops…..
The interesting thing about the star of david is how inflexible it is as a symbol.
The Israelis chose the Star of David as the prominent symbol on their flag so they cannot cry about the icon being used in other ways. Need the swastika always be in a white circle on a blood red background to evoke a strong reaction?
I agree that the line of smoke and the foreground make the bars of the flag, but I think it is nitpicking to say it would necessarily be anti-Semitic if those elements weren't there.
I wonder why Phil hasn't covered this?
"Israel challenges Palestinian claim on Gaza dead"
Considering Israel's track record, I doubt this is true.
Sorta like the Lebanon War where Israel kept saying it was those human shields.
Whoops, that was wrong. 2 studies (US Army War College and HRW) refuted that bullshit.
What's the problem ?
Vladimir Jabotinsky, in his last work, The Jewish War Front, (1940) wrote of his plans for the Palestinian people:
“Since we have this great moral authority for calmly envisaging the exodus of Arabs, we need not regard the possible departure of 900,000 with dismay. Herr Hitler has recently been enhancing the popularity of population transfer”.
From Ralph Schoenman "The Hidden History of Zionism"
Zionism and Fascism
The history of Zionism – largely suppressed – is sordid.
Mussolini set up squadrons of the [Jabotinsky] Revisionist Zionist youth movement, Betar, in black shirts in emulation of his own Fascist bands.
When Menachem Begin became chief of Betar, he preferred the brown shirts of the Hitler gangs, a uniform Begin and Betar members wore to all meetings and rallies – at which they greeted each other and opened and closed meetings with the fascist salute.
Simon Petilura was a Ukranian fascist who personally directed pogroms which killed 28,000 Jews in 897 separate pogroms. Jabotinsky negotiated an alliance with Petilura, proposing a Jewish police force to accompany Petilura's forces in their counter-revolutionary fight against the Red Army and the Bolshevik Revolution – a process involving the murder of peasant, worker and intellectual supporters of the revolution.
Collaborating with the Nazis
This strategy of enlisting Europe's virulent Jew-haters, and of aligning with the most vicious movements and regimes as financial and military patrons of a Zionist colony in Palestine, did not exclude the Nazis.
The Zionist Federation of Germany sent a memorandum of support to the Nazi Party on June 21, 1933. In it the Federation noted:
"…a rebirth of national life such as is occurring in German life … must also take place in the Jewish national group.
"On the foundation of the new [Nazi] state which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure so that for us, too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible…."[81] Far from repudiating this policy, the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43.
During this very Congress, Hitler announced a trade agreement with the WZO's Anglo-Palestine Bank, breaking, thereby, the Jewish boycott of the Nazi regime at a time when the German economy was extremely vulnerable. It was the height of the Depression and people were wheeling barrels full of worthless German Marks. The World Zionist Organization broke the Jewish boycott and became the principal distributor of Nazi goods throughout the Middle East and Northern Europe. They established the Ha'avara, which was a bank in Palestine designed to receive monies from the German-Jewish bourgeoisie, with which sums Nazi goods were purchased in very substantial quantity.
Embracing the S.S.
Consequently, the Zionists brought Baron Von Mildenstein of the S.S. Security Service to Palestine for a six-month visit in support of Zionism. This visit led to a twelve-part report by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, in Der Angriff (The Assault) in 1934 praising Zionism. Goebbels ordered a medallion struck with the Swastika on one side, and on the other, the Zionist Star of David. In May 1935, Reinhardt Heydrich, the chief of the S.S. Security Service, wrote an article in which he separated Jews into "two categories." The Jews he favored were the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them."[82] In 1937, the Labor "socialist" Zionist militia, the Haganah (founded by Jabotinsky) sent an agent (Feivel Polkes) to Berlin offering to spy for the S.S. Security Service in exchange for the release of Jewish wealth for Zionist colonization. Adolf Eichmann was invited to Palestine as the guest of the Haganah.
Feivel Polkes informed Eichmann:
"Jewish nationalist circles were very pleased with the radical German policy, since the strength of the Jewish population in Palestine would be so far increased thereby that in the foreseeable future the Jews could reckon upon numerical superiority over the Arabs."[83] The list of acts of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis goes on and on. What can account for this incredible willingness of Zionist leaders to betray the Jews of Europe? The entire rationale for the state of Israel offered by its apologists has been that it was intended to be the refuge of Jews facing persecution.
The Zionists, to the contrary, saw any effort to rescue Europe's Jews not as the fulfilment of their political purpose but as a threat to their entire movement. If Europe's Jews were saved, they would wish to go elsewhere and the rescue operation would have nothing to do with the Zionist project of conquering Palestine.
Einstein, Hannah Arendt et. al.
Letters to the Editor
New York Times
December 4, 1948
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. ………………………
…………………. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
Woe is the poor, suffering little Gazan in the cartoon, whose misfortune and misery is solely the responsibility of the ZioNaziBushNeocon war machine and not its own ineffective, feckless, corrupt, self-serving, suicide-nail-bomb-exploding, baby-killing, human-shield-using, missile-launching leadership. Nope … we can safely rule out the latter! And those offenses matter only if they're committed by
IsraelisZioNazis. Hamas & Co can instigate conflict all day long, but that's not what's important. Oh no! Israel should just take the punishment or roll over and die … or both!If only they had accepted what was offered to them in 1948 … [sigh]
I think the fascist element rings closer to the truth than the Nazi aspect. Look at the three leaders of Israel today: all derived from the Revisionist Party of Zionism.
For more check out Lenni Brenner over at:
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/03/colonialist-and-fascist-past-of-israels.html
Hey Shirazi,
the Zionists did not accept what was offered to them in '48. They forcefully took another 24% that was not their's, along with the other 54%.
Abe Greenwald and the commenters have gone nuts over at Commentary: Unabashed Anti-Semitism. So far 5 pages of mostly vitriolic denunciations mixed with elements of demoralization and anti-Americanism. As Americans start to care more about what Israel is doing it would not surprise me at all to see the formerly super patriotic neocons suddenly turn against America.
Israel's military investigating their own war crimes. How noble.
385 villages and towns were destroyed resulting in the killing of thousands of innocent men, women and children, and the forcible expulsion of all the others, 700,000 in number, during 1948-1950, who remain until today, as destitute refugees, in and out of their land.
Shirazi — what was it that Israel so generously offered the Palestinians in 48 ?
@ Joshua, fultronix:
In response to the UN partition re Palestine in 1948, here is how the Arabs responded:
The Arab States declared they would greet any attempt to form a Jewish state with war. Dr Izzat Tannous, the Palestinian Arab representative to the UN declared that: "We are now at war, a war in which no quarter will be asked and none will be given. It will be a battle of life and death and woe to the vanquished."
Source: Wikipedia
I understand you both wish to be selective with your facts, but I'm hoping that you will at least cite facts and not bizarre fabrications or hyperbole.
Wikipedia – impeccable Zio source you cite there
“We must expel the Arabs and take their place”. 1937 “Ben Gurion & the Palestine Arabs” (Oxford University Press, 1985)
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Ben Gurion: From a speech to the Israeli General Staff, May, 1948
“ We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab Population” (Ben Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar Delacourte Press, New York, 1978)
"For the entire day of April 9, 1948, Irgun and LEHI soldiers carried out the slaughter in a cold and premeditated fashion…The attackers 'lined men, women and children up against the walls and shot them,'…The ruthlessness of the attack on Deir Yassin shocked Jewish and world opinion alike, drove fear and panic into the Arab population, and led to the flight of unarmed civilians from their homes all over the country."
Israeli author, Simha Flapan, "The Birth of Israel."
State of Israel founded May '48
The slaughter had begun before the Arabs attacked – when they did attack they were only trying to protect what was allocated to the Palestinians . . .
Just for the record, the Soviet army also goose-stepped.
If I am not mistaken both Red Heat and Jackal used real footage of Soviet soldiers goose-stepping in the opening sequences.
Worth repeating because its true, as anyone can see today:
"the Zionists did not accept what was offered to them in '48. They forcefully took another 24% that was not their's, along with the other 54%."–Joshua
The jews started kicking out Arabs and taking over their land in 1947, getting "facts on the ground"–this has never stopped–the settlements expanded from 1967 on to the present day, where it is now still
happening–all the while playing peace negotiations–time for Obama to put a stop it. Except he won't
as he knows the Democtrats (hence his future) are paid for by over 2/3rd rich jewish money bags. This
is the nut nobody can crack. The only thing that will do it is a combo of war with Iran and the USA debt and Fed Reserve/Treasury scam. It's coming, and then average Americans will wake up–and look for a scapecoat, the common thread in desperate populist movements.
Citizen, my comment was only a concise reply to Shirazi: one needed not go into more details with it. It only pertained to "acceptance of partition" which was untrue. I went into more length over the same thing (why do Zionists keep repeating the same old thing over and over) at Magnes Zionist.
Shirazi, you did not refute anything. You cited Wikipedia: how professional and to the point. In addition, your response was to how Arabs reacted: gee, I doubt anyone would have accepted a partition of their homeland. Even the Zionists didn't accept this!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the point we all made and one you did not (a) attempt at recourse and (b) even acknowledged was a point at all. Instead you felt it necessary to show how the Arabs reacted to a partition plan that they had no agreement with, had no consultation with and had absolutely no justification for. How surprising. I bet you would have thought it absolutely egregious that Zulus in South Africa were hubristic because they didn't accept their Bantustans or the Algerians didn't accept French rule over them.
@fultronix
It's interesting that over at this site it lists that Ben Gurion quote as fake:
“>link to camera.org
Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983 NEVER SAID:
We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.
"Heibrun" never uttered any "Zionist quotes" at all, or any other quotes – there was no such person.
Commissioner Israel Koenig NEVER WROTE:
We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.
That and other fake "Zionist quotes" are supposedly in his controversial report on Israeli Arabs in Galilee.
Source given: Cited in Lustick, Ian, Arabs in the Jewish State, University of Texas Press, Texas, 1980.
Koenig didn't say it, and Lustick never wrote that he said it. This same fabricated Zionist quote is also attributed to David Ben Gurion in 1948.
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I'd also be interested to know if anyone can verify this quote provided by link to jewsagainstzionism.com
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It says it quotes Yitzchak Greenbaum's book, "In the Days of Holocaust and Destruction" but I have been unable to even find any sort of citation that shows that this book exists.
I would love to confirm (or else establish that it is not valid) as I have used the quote before but taken a lot of guff for it because they claim it is fake. How could one access Israeli archives as Greenbaum is a key figure in the founding of Israel? They should know what books he did or didn't write. I have also been told by Zionists that the "One cow in Palestine" quote is fake and only used by neo-Nazis; but even that one shows up in Wikipedia.
Any help at all on this would be appreciated. Does Joachim Martillo know?
The Greenbaum book should be "In Days of Holocaust and Destruction"
Cartoons are very efficient political messages. Especially for young people. They combine the instantaneous power of image with the appeal of the unexpected stroke of imagination. That's why I can safely list the complete absence of any criticism towards zionism on the part of Steve Bell (cartoonist for The Guardian) as one of the main reasons why I lost my interest in the leftist media many years ago. As I saw it, if they could not combine truth and imagination they were irrelevant. So they were.
This cartoon from Oliphant, with both the dispersing jet trail and the hard soil of palestinian dispossession recreating the israeli flag is so many years too late that I'm inclined to think that the headless thing must be goosestepping to the beat of a funeral march, otherwise they would have already fallen into the mediterranean long ago, while waiting for people like Bell and Oliphant take notice of what was going on.
@ Joshua
Ben Gurion never accepted partition on UN lines except as a tactic; he was always looking to full Jewish expansion and stated so. I was just showing his wishes have been implemented all along right up to the present; they've even increased lately in the West Bank in the face of the Obama regime.
It is still antisemetic.