solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict is at hand!

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According to this genealogist/scientist, up to 85 percent of Palestinians have Jewish ancestry. The logical conclusion to this article would be that 85% of the Palestinian refugees should be welcomed home under the Law of Return, and Israel will remain a Jewish state which will please all the Zionists? Whazzat, you say they will not at all be pleased?

Posted in Israel/Palestine, US Politics

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  1. Gellian says:
    August 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Indeed, that the Palestinians themselves are the original Jews of Judea, and that European-looking Jews are likely the descendants of European converts, would seem to be beyond stating the obvious. And yet to do so is to invite charges of anti-Semitism…

  2. pineywoodslim says:
    August 11, 2009 at 12:13 am

    What a fascinating link.

    While it is common sense that many of the Palestinians and Jews would have common ancestry, I had no idea that there were Palestinians who still recalled–in some cases vividly–their families’ Jewish roots.

  3. James says:
    August 11, 2009 at 12:59 am

    funny! what will happen to all those who are so attached throwing around anti-semite labels and such?

  4. Richard Witty says:
    August 11, 2009 at 7:11 am

    Its further along than just geneology. A minority (who knows how large) of Palestinians continue to practice some form of Jewish ritual. It could be long residual from before Christian and Moslem waves of occupation, and like the Spanish “conversos” continued some semblance of their Jewish practices.

    But, more importantly, the question of attitude towards the “other” is compelling. Any that seek to dispossess others from their homes (both ways), should remember that the person could be a Jew, and/or could be messiah in some form of disguise.

    We risk a lot by carelessness and opportunism.

    • Frankie P says:
      August 11, 2009 at 5:44 pm

      “Any that seek to dispossess others from their homes (both ways), should remember that the person could be a Jew, and/or could be messiah in some form of disguise.”

      Witty’s racism, pure and unadulterated. We can surmise that if you dispossess others who AREN’T Jews, it’s permitted. Funny Richard, I would word it more like this.

      “should remember that the person could be a human”

      FPM

      • Richard Witty says:
        August 12, 2009 at 9:35 am

        Frankie,
        If you see racism in the post, then you are looking for racism only.

        In the spirit of “love thy neighbor as thyself”, to regard the other as potentially like you, as potentially the best of you, is the opposite of racism. It destroys racism.

        Its how you love the stranger, rather than just rant that I don’t “smoke the same cigarette as you”. (meaning, state it in the same terms).

  5. Shingo says:
    August 11, 2009 at 8:32 am

    This is hardly a new concept, seeing as DNA has shown the connection for quite some time. Still, Shlomo Sand’s thesis, “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?”, expains that, contrary to Israeli myth, Romans didn’t expel whole nations from their territories. He estimates that perhaps 10,000 ancient Judeans were vanquished during the Roman wars, and the remaining inhabitants of ancient Judea remained, converting to Islam and assimilating with their conquerors when Arabs subjugated the area. They became the progenitors of today’s Palestinian Arabs, many of whom now live as refugees.

  6. homingpigeon says:
    August 11, 2009 at 10:12 am

    As interesting as the article itself are the comments, in which one notes an unintended irony. There seems to be an assumption that the basis for a right to live in Israel a religious test. The discussion revolves around the modalities of the religion and the conversion, but by and large it is implicit that if you are a Jew living in the land but convert to another religion, then your property is forfeit. If you are a goy who converts to Judaism, or perhaps are a Russian who has one grandparent descended from someone who converted to Judaism many centuries ago, then you are welcome to come to Israel and live in the house of the descendant of the apostate Jew.

    I don’t think Zionism is racist. It is something truly weirder.

    And should American taxpayers be subsidizing something requiring a religious test?

  7. Shafiq says:
    August 11, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I read the comments, which show the confusion about the state of Israel. Is it a religious state, or is it an ethnocratic state?

    Many commenters said that if the Palestinians converted to Judaism, they would be welcome. Yet secular Jews are welcome even if they don’t believe in God? Soviet Jews who only had a Jewish grandfather were also welcome, even though they’re not technically Jewish under religious law. So what is going on?

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Israel now exists solely to keep the Palestinians out and not as a homeland for Jews.

  8. amyro89 says:
    August 11, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Regardless of whether the Palestinians have Jewish roots or not, they have rights which should be respected.

    Looking at some of the comments, its hard to believe that by simply having Jewish blood within them, the Palestinians -or at least 85% of them- have the sympathy of a significant number of the commentators.

    In addition, considering that the land had initially been inhabited by the Caanites, the land could also be considered to have been occupied by Jews, God given or not. This is in reference to Richard Witty’s comment.

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