sex, lies, and Vince Foster

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Last night Chris Matthews had the credulous Taylor Branch on to talk about his Clinton book, The Clinton Tapes. It sounds like there is a lot of self-pity as well as resentment at the press expressed by Clinton in the book, for distracting the Clinton presidency with Whitewater and other trivial issues. Chris Matthews joined the worshipful Branch by making fun of those who saw dark doings in the death of Vince Foster.

I played my part in the Clinton scandals. I’m not proud of it now, I confess, because the world seems so much bigger than the French farce of the 90s. I have problems with loyalty in life, and I felt little loyalty to the Democrats when I sensed the small-town corruption that hung around Clinton. I wanted to expose it. It was the wrong impulse because as John Homans, my friend/editor, used to berate me, You’re arming people who disagree with you on policy matters. Did I help elevate W? Yes. But should Clinton have resigned and Gore taken the presidency before 2000? Probably. And would Gore have kept us out of Iraq? Maybe. That’s why I feel bad about what I did.

But let me say a few words about Vince Foster, and what his death meant.

Bill Clinton’s problem in the 1980s and 90s was that he had taken political risk through his personal activities (which I could care less about)–but this in turn exposed those around him to a different sort of risk, smears and threats (which I care about). The most important moment in the Monica Lewinsky case is the moment that Lewinsky hears that Linda Tripp has been called by the special counsel to testify– they are both working at the Pentagon then–and Tripp comes back from lunch to find the "body count" list on her desk, left by Monica. The body count was the notorious list of 100 or so people in Arkansas who had died through one sort of political nefariousness or another that the Clinton-haters circulated, saying it was dangerous to be near Clinton. It was a largely-unreliable list– having looked into it I can say. Though life in a one-party machine state aint purty.

My point here is that Monica dropped that list on Tripp’s desk. This was no joke. The president’s lover was making a veiled threat. Or communicating the danger of the Clinton people.

I wish Ken Starr had asked Monica about that, not about what kind of sex she had.

The theory about Vince Foster’s death that I find most persuasive is that he also was caught up in bimbo suppression, as deputy White House counsel, and under huge pressure from the Clinton people to do something that summer. A couple of facts: the Arkansas Troopers began organizing in spring 1993 to go public with their disclosures about Clinton’s sex life. Clinton heard about this and saw it as an urgent matter. In fact, he dangled a job to one of the Troopers to try and shut them up. And of course when the Troopers went public late in ’93, in the American Spectator, it hurt Clinton and I guess led to the Paula Jones case.

More back story. In 1988, Bill Clinton chose not to run for the presidency, in part out of fear of personal disclosure about his sex life. The story goes–and now we are into rumor/recollection, but it’s persuasive–that Hillary Clinton was angry that he had bowed out and wanted a divorce. She compiled a divorce file with her friend, lawyer Vince Foster, involving a number of women in Arkansas. Ultimately she dropped the plan. But that file still existed in ’93, and the Clintons were scared it would get out. Remember–and this is fact–that on the night of Foster’s death in July 93, his office was rifled of files. And the phone records unearthed by Michael Chertoff suggested strongly that Hillary was in on that activity, talking to Maggie Williams and Bernie Nussbaum and as I recall Susan Thomases too, in a series of frenetic calls that night.

Stir the pot: Two months after Foster died, a former Clinton aide named Luther "Jerry" Parks was murdered gangland style as he drove through Little Rock. Parks was a former cop who had been the head of security for the Clinton campaign office in Little Rock in ’92. Parks’s son told me that his father had worked with Foster to put together the divorce file, and that he kept a copy of that file, and the Clinton people wanted it. There have been suggestions that Parks was shaking people down with what he knew; and he came to a bad end. 

We are talking about a situation in which two Clinton aides die of mysterious violent causes inside of 2 months. And the pattern is consistent with what Kathleen Willey experienced, Gennifer Flowers experienced, and Linda Tripp too: If you knew something about Bill Clinton’s sex life, that was dangerous information. No wonder there are guns in Primary Colors.

I’ve never been convinced that Foster committed suicide, or that he was murdered. Don’t know. His pager disappeared, by the way, when the Park Police were trying to conduct their investigation. The Secret Service had grabbed it. And yes, his White House office was rifled.

With this set of facts about a Republican president, the press would go crazy. Heck, think what we did with the Joe Wilson-Scooter Libby case, honorably.

No it’s not Iraq. I admit, I took that case too seriously. But it was a legitimate question for a simple reason: The Vince Foster case is forever entwined with Bill Clinton’s people’s methods of dealing with his zipper problem. And that is why there are crazy rumors around the Foster case; because there should be.

14 Responses

  1. MRW
    October 2, 2009, 12:42 pm

    You outlined only the tip of the iceberg of the Vince Foster story, as you well know.

    What I didn’t know was that is was Lewinsky who put the 100-best dead list on Tripp’s desk, or if I ever did, I forgot. Your writing it, here, puts it in stark relief and, now, somehow gives credence to the whisper that Lewinsky was an agent used to take Clinton down unless he agreed to certain policy changes. Hmmph.

    • Mooser
      October 2, 2009, 12:47 pm

      Monica confirmed she put the list there?

    • MRW
      October 2, 2009, 1:39 pm

      Mooser, is would have been Tripp who confirmed, no?

      • Mooser
        October 2, 2009, 6:10 pm

        If you find Linda Tripp believable.
        But that’s all as may be. I went back and read Phil’s 12 page article in the NYTs
        Also Googled Phil Wiess Clinton Scandals. Very interesting results.
        I understand things a lot better now. From the Clinton scandals to the I-P issue.

  2. Mooser
    October 2, 2009, 12:45 pm

    “With this set of facts about a Republican president, the press would go crazy”

    Okay, so Phil’s a proponent of the “liberal media” canard! And apparently, at one time tried to hook his start to Clinton’s zipper, or something.
    But a very revealing piece, none the less. Answers lots of questions for me. I would have to say, for a writer about ideas, I think Phil is on his way to a brilliant career as a securities broker or failing that kind of “in”, selling insurance.

  3. America First
    October 2, 2009, 1:18 pm

    My point here is that Monica dropped that list on Tripp’s desk. This was no joke. The president’s lover was making a veiled threat. Or communicating the danger of the Clinton people.

    If she was threatening Clinton why would would she do it through Tripp?

    The most entertaining part of the scandal was when Monica’s dad said he still supported Clinton who treated his daughter like that (“lover” isn’t quite it) because he was solid on Israel. So there isn’t just dual loyalty between US and Israel, but between family and Israel.

    • MRW
      October 2, 2009, 1:42 pm

      She was threatening Tripp not to talk, but to do it with a hit list implying a black hand behind Clinton is what is bizarre…and troubling.

      • Mooser
        October 2, 2009, 6:15 pm

        Between the two of them, Lewisnky and Tripp, which one is more full of shit, and which one more compromised. I’d say it’s a toss up.
        Thank God there were no scandals or indications of corruption in the Bushes and other Repubs.

        And what do you know, it turned out to be about bigger things then the bedroom farce nineties led Phil to believe. Very interesting.

  4. MRW
    October 2, 2009, 1:44 pm

    The point is that Clinton was blackmailable.

    • America First
      October 2, 2009, 6:50 pm

      Sorry to be dense, but over what? The body count? But that presupposes there was a there there, which hasn’t been shown. What I recall being so weird about the whole thing (Monicagate, not Fostergate) was Clinton’s claim that Paula Jones’s lawyers were trying to entrap him into perjury. I think what they were really doing was using dirt to squeeze him to settle. Nasty business, but it happens all the time, and often works. No defendant in a civil case has to perjure himself, he just has to write out a check. I wonder why that didn’t happen.

  5. Oscar
    October 2, 2009, 6:01 pm

    For those of you who haven’t seen it before, here’s a sample site of the Clinton “body count.”
    link to

  6. Mooser
    October 2, 2009, 6:18 pm

    I never liked Clinton, frankly, and I never trusted Hilary after she stuck with Bill. And then she let Bush walk all over her, too.

    • MRW
      October 2, 2009, 11:00 pm

      Me, too.

      [Filler cuz message too short: qwertyuio1pASDFGHJKL;zxCVbnm] Bastardos!

  7. Kathleen
    October 2, 2009, 8:02 pm

    Chris Matthews has spent so much time on Bill Clinton on his program…especially about the lies underoath about blowjobs.

    Just wish Chris Matthews would start playing hardball again on the Intelligence snowjob that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead, injured , and millions displaced.

    Matthews hammered away before the invasion and then beat on Cheney for a very long time

    Chris Matthews beat down bloggers the other night. Referring to them as people in pajamas in basements. Told him during the Libby trial that he needed to jump on Emptywheels and find out for himself what was really going on some of the blogs.

    These MSM folks know they are on their way down sliding down. And as long as they do not do their jobs we well keep flooding the blogs

    link to
    “The big thing was this: It was Tim Russert who had that conversation with Scooter Libby where Libby complained about what he considered Chris Matthews biased coverage of the administration and the start of the war. It was that conversation, which Libby later falsely told aFBI agents and a federal grand jury that he found out about Valerie Plame’s identity, from Russert.”

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