Goods – Needs Vs. Supply – Nov 8 – Dec 5 (Graphic: gazagateway.org)
Gisha – Legal Center for Freedom of Movement has created a new website – The Gaza Gateway. It looks like a great resource on Israel’s ongoing siege of Gaza. From the site:
Gaza Gateway is updated weekly and allows visitors to easily access credible information about the amount of traffic that Israel allows to pass through the Gaza Strip border crossings. The data is presented alongside relevant background information, such as the amount of goods allowed through relative to the needs of the population of Gaza.
So far, the site also includes useful information on the amount of gas and school supplies Israel is allowing into Gaza.
Thanks for sharing sites like this. As always, the raw data alone speaks more powerfully than anything a glitzy PR firm or a pseudo-academic think tank will ever put out.
I showed this graph to my mother. She pays no attention to politics and never watches the news – she’s always fixated with Pakistani and Indian soap operas and sitcoms. But, she did have this to say: “If this were to happen to the Yahudis, would every man on earth know about it.”
“If this were to happen to the Yahudis, would every man on earth know about it.”
Seems it pays to whine, eh?
Shooting and moaning.
Is this what David Duke and Mooser have in common, after all?
Babylon Turkish-English Download this dictionary
yahudi
n. Hebrew, Jew, Israelite, Yid, Levite, kike, sheeny
adj. Hebrew, Israelite, Jewish
Massacres by the Yahudi state:
link to maroc.nl
An attempt to babble about word origins:
link to eliyah.com
And, hey, how about Pearl Harbor memory today? Let’s keep Rahm Immanuel in mind; he said you always need to take advantage of every opportunity. How about that FDR? Remember the oil embargo against Japan? How about the
OPEC formation and the gas station lines in the USA? Can we get a cheer for
a war on Iran?
my personal favorite is sheeny
or how about a cheer for a the suppression of free speech for anyone that opposes the regime in Iran.
“Death to the dictator!” but don’t plan on saying that via the internet or your cellphone in Iran, its most likely been shut down by the regime of the democratically President.
i second that cheer, how about imprisoning non-violent protesters indefinitely for being effective? oh and house demolitions, indiscriminate fire, intentional killing of civilians, colonization, lies upon lies, emotional blackmail, and being pathetic enough that you have to pay people to troll blogs for you, etc.
Yonira, you’re like the serial rapist who goes around pointing out everyone else’s crimes, hoping that no one pays attention to what you are doing.
Attention is paid to the crimes of the Israelis, I admit they do them and it disgusts me. The reason I brought up Iran is because I have yet to hear anyone on this blog agree there is a problem or protest the current situation there or the problems in India, Pakistan, Burma, Darfur, the Sudan.
That’s always why Zionists keep bringing up Iran, Darfur, the Sudan, etc – to divert interest from the crimes of Israelis.
Gee, I can’t imagine why a blog focused on the Israel-Palestine situation would focus on the Israel-Palestine situation, yonira.
The suppression of free speech attaches to those who say we should talk to Iran; the speech is very free and broadcasted favoring attacking Iran.
Yonira, you really need to school yourself in who the USA gives its foreign aid money to, and on the practical bonus in the myriad ways Uncle Sam favors and
gives sweetheart deals to Israel. If you are a USA taxpayer, you should be very
annoyed at this “special relationship.” Uncle Sam gives no unconditional blank checks to the countries you mention; only to Israel.
“Attention is paid to the crimes of the Israelis, I admit they do them and it disgusts me.”
And yet like Witty, you put your disgust to one side and defend them. That must take years of practice.
Are all these trucks coming in from Egypt?
From where else would they roll in?
Note how the Pals were cut off from vital everyday life needs once they freely
voted for HAMAS:
link to english.pnn.ps
I won’t talk about how the USA has curtailed free votes in S America.
Nor will I talk about how the USA system has cut off the votes of the American people.
All hail Shrub & Obama, the usual continues.
link to time.com
The majority of the trucks use the Erez Crossing between Israel and Gaza.
I don’t understand, one person said from Egypt one, person said from Israel, I would tend to believe that all of this aide comes from Egypt, why?
1) Egypt is a fellow Arab country and not at war with Gaza and Hamas
2) Israel has a blockade against Gaza and considers it enemy territory why would they supply aide?
1) Egypt’s ruler is massively corrupt and is paid by the US not to open any crossings, indeed he threatened to break the legs of any Gazans found trying to cross the border.
2) Israel considers Gaza it’s own territory.
Israel is required as the occupying power to supply the population with its needs. I believe that the numbers in the graph above refer only to goods shipped in from Israel.
The trucks come in from Israel in order to relieve the humanitarian crisis to some degree. I’m not sure who pays for the aid.
Israel does not consider Gaza its own territory. It considers itself at war with a Gaza ruled by Hamas.
Lucky you, I have the relevant information at my virtual fingertips, BSDNow:
link to zcommunications.org
It does not really matter what Israel considers Gaza to be.
Under international law, Israel militarily occupies the Gaza strip. There are no ifs and buts about that.
Israel controls the Gazan borders, violates Gazan airspace, decides what goes in and out of the Gaza strip, and controls its territorial waters, Israel has direct control over virtually everything that goes on in Gaza. By every definition of the word, this is a military occupation.
In the end it is Israel that is maintaining a medieval siege on Gaza, and as such, Israel is obligated by international law to ensure the health and livelihood of the people in the Gaza strip.
The fact that even you “humane Zionists” can’t see this is bewildering.
Imagine if Hamas subjected Tel Aviv to a brutal siege, forcing Tel Avivians to rely on smuggling tunnels for basic goods like milk, text books, meat, and pencils. If this were the case, you would be singing a different tune all together.
Imagine if the Tel Avivians tried to resist the siege with primitive unguided sugar powered bottle rocket attacks that inflicted virtually no damage on the Hamas powers, and that Hamas retaliated by dropping 2 ton bombs on every piece of vital infrastructure in Tel Aviv.
Imagine if Hamas randomly destroyed schools, hospitals, water treatment facilities, sewage treatment facilities, residential homes, parliament buildings, roads, water pipes, electrical grids, the sole power plant, the sole flour mill, orphanages, UN buildings, UN food depots, etc merely to “teach those Tel Aviv bastards a lesson!”
Imagine, if the PM of Hamas negated the effects of Israels siege by simply saying that he was merely putting the people of Tel Aviv on a “diet.”
WJ? How can Israel be at war with a country they refuse to recognize? How can one be at war with a country that isn’t allowed to have an army, for that matter? Gaza is still occupied. Just because they don’t have boots on the ground (most of the time), Gaza’s air and sea space are still most assuredly occupied and there is a wide “kill zone” that the IDF maintains just inside the Gaza border.
Imagine if the Palestinians were besieging Jerusalem as they were in the winter of 48, wouldn’t that be considered an act of war. Then why is the Hagana offensive of March 48 considered to be an unprovoked act of war?
1. If the rules of war consider Israel to be an occupying power, I will not argue the point.
2. You can be at war with somebody you don’t recognize. Just ask Hezbollah.
But of course, we’re supposed to ignore what Haganah was already in the process of doing to Palestinian villages from 1947 onward.
If the rules of war consider Israel to be an occupying power, I will not argue the point.
Wonderful. Then there’s this thing called the Fourth Geneva Conventions that needs to be addressed with regards to Israel’s actions. Maybe you’ve heard of it?
BSDNOW
Israel controls the Erez Crossing and the Rafah Crossing is controlled by a UN delegation and Egyptian forces. Israel gets to better check and verify the tons of food and supplies is actually that, where they don’t have that control over the Rafah crossing.
With that being said, Israel makes it nearly impossible for goods to pass and it costs millions more dollars to go through all of those hoops. For the record I think the blockade of Gaza is a disgrace and hope it eases once Shalit is released.
WJ? How can Israel be at war with a country they refuse to recognize?
are you kidding?
It is a fine distinction between “being at war” and “waging war.”
Israel is waging war on Gaza, essentially unilateral war as Gaza has almost no means of striking back. Israel is at war with Syria, as it once declared war and there has been no peace declaration, but it is not, at this moment, waging war on Syria. (although the state of war is sufficient for Israel to bomb Syrian territory if it feels like it; they could not bomb Jordan under the same excuse0
Why is this so hard to understand, yonira? Are you a parrot? Do you merely just spout propaganda?
link to en.wikipedia.org
link to en.wikipedia.org
And on top of that, from what I’ve been told, the AMA of 2005 specifically gives Israel veto power over anyone or anything crossing through Rafah.
So, yes. The crossing is, in effect, controlled from Israel.
Imagine if the Palestinians were besieging Jerusalem as they were in the winter of 48, wouldn’t that be considered an act of war.
The Palestinians never besieged Jerusalem in 1948, learn your history WJ. After all, there were more Palestinians living in Jerusalem than there were Jews during that time period. (The ethnic cleansing of 90% of Palestine by the Haganah and other groups changed that demographic).
Furthermore, the few places that Jews were subjected to limited sieges by numerically inferior Arab armies, were situations in which the Jewish colonizers resisted in the most violent manner possible. Why are they allowed to resist violently and the Palestinians living in far more horrible conditions not allowed to raise a finger in defiance?
In any case, we are talking about what is going on right now, which is that Israel is brutally occupying the Palestinian people through a brutal military occupation, and enforces a brutal medieval siege on a large segment of that population, while subjecting the rest to apartheid.
Israel does not consider Gaza its own territory. It considers itself at war with a Gaza ruled by Hamas.
Nile to the Euphrates, sooner or later, they’ve no reason to stop stealing land.
James Bradley- Present tense- the siege of Gaza is unwise and cruel. It may even be illegal. But it is not medieval.
History- You mention history from time to time yourself, so why am I limited to the present tense. There was a siege on the Jewish population of Jerusalem. To deny that is to deny history. There was rationing of water and food in Jewish Jerusalem. Are you denying that?
But it is not medieval.
It’s certainly pre-modern, since the brutal treatment of a people under occupation is a flagrant violation of the Geneva Conventions. (And don’t pretend like Gaza isn’t under occupation).
Are you denying what was done to the Palestinians, earlier and for the duration of the Nakba, WJ? Let’s not cherry pick on historical facts, here. Was the conditions of this siege you speak of limited merely to Jews in Jerusalem?
It may even be illegal? How is it legal, WJ?
I denied nothing. It was James Bradley who was busy denying.
The blockade was in place before Shalit was taken and it will remain after if/when he is released. Shalit is only the current excuse. If he is released, Israel will remember that there still might be rocket parts in any goods freely entering Gaza, and the show will go on.
I denied nothing. It was James Bradley who was busy denying.
You are, in point of fact, denying the truth. You have no reply to what the rest of us have pointed out about your fatuous argument, do you?
now is where the yiddish comes in handy. you are a putz and a shmuck.
..and the name-calling starts. Your a Zionist through and through, WJ.
fatuous is not a name, it is an adjective. so you’re right. i started it.
It was also applied to the noun “argument,” not to you. I see grammar is also not your strong suit.
WJ, the Palestinians never laid siege to Jerusalem, you are changing history.
However, there were in fact foreign Arab armies and Haganah forces that attempted to block the “road” to Jerusalem, at some points this led to shortages of food for all the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Please don’t cherry pick history to try to justify Israels brutal medieval siege of the Gaza strip.
And yes, the siege if medieval. The people of the siege are blocked by land and by sea, and also by air. They RELY on underground tunnels for basic supplies, while simultaneously being bombarded with some of the most lethal conventional weapons available.
The water treatment system of Gaza has been damaged to such an extent that foreign aid agencies are saying that there is a huge threat of cholera outbreak, that Palestinian kids living in the Gaza strip are born “blue” in color due to contaminated water, and that virtually all the kids in Gaza are malnourished, while most Gazans are forced to live off of less than $2 a day.
Imagine, just for one second what would happen if the Palestinians did even 1% of this to a single Israeli neighborhood.
The Arab armies who were blocking the road to Jerusalem were Palestinian. And if the Hagana was trying to break through the blockade, how were they also blockading? And if the Arabs controlled all land to the east, north, west and south of Jerusalem, why were the Arabs of Jerusalem suffering shortages?
And if Jerusalem was being blockaded in what sense is this different than a siege?
And I am not trying to justify the siege of Gaza, I was raising a historical point, because I believe that you and others have claimed that the Hagana started the war, whereas there was a war going on from the day after the UN partition resolution. And the claim that the Hagana was attacking territory not included in the Israeli (or Jewish) part of the partition is bogus, because there was a siege of the 100,000 Jewish residents of Jerusalem (which was not included in the Jewish part of the partition plan, and according to your argument the Hagana should have let them starve rather than fight to clear the road to Jerusalem). And until March the Hagana was purely on the defensive and the roads in almost all parts of Palestine were controlled by Arab or Palestinian snipers and that was when the Hagana went on the offensive.
We may be reading from different history books.
The holding of elections where Hamas was allowed to run when they didn’t accept the Oslo Accords was a stupidity on the part of Condoleeza Rice and her belief in democracy, when the Arabs in many countries would support Islamists if elections would be held today. And maybe it would benefit the United States in the long run to have these Islamists come to power and then be voted out of power when they show how impractical they are. But then again the example of Iran (admittedly a non Arab country) in which the ruling clique was apparently voted out of power and is not willing to relinquish its power is an indication that Islamist democratic victories would be followed by Islamic nondemocratic rule. but it is certainly not in Israel’s interest to have Hamas in power in Gaza or the West Bank. And I know you have what you feel are ironclad quotes of Hamas figures that they are willing to recognize Israel, but we disagree on the degree of Hamas’s willingness to recognize Israel.
And like Moshe Halbertal in his piece in the New Republic, I question the siege on Gaza on both moral and strategic grounds. And if I were prime minister of Israel I would attempt to end the siege.
WJ, the majority of Arabs that blockaded the road to Jerusalam were not Palestinian.
Furthermore, the Haganah had already ethnically cleansed 350,000 Palestinians from Palestine before a single Arab army came to Palestine. The Israeli’s started the war, the only people who dispute this are Zionists who still subscribe to Israeli mythology.
The Partition that the UN appropriated ensured that the state of Israel received a ton of land that had majority Palestinian populations in it. The Haganah acted to ensure that any land it received was cleansed of its Palestinian population. You can’t say that Palestinians defending themselves and their capital city were the instigators of this war.
Finally, trying to compare a siege that happened 60 years ago, to what Israel has been doing for the past 4 years to Gaza is simply obscene. If you actually gave a shit you’d act to stop the siege, instead you try to justify it with irrelevant historical anecdotes.
Egypt would have to break international treaty agreements to allow Gaza to import along the Egyptian border. Little known fact that the Israeli PR machine will suppress — unless of course, Egypt does open up the border, and then Israel will screech that Egypt has gone back on its promises. Never mind that Israel openly, flagrantly violates the Camp David Accords.
The Truth Philip Roth has ignored in all his crappy books:
link to gather.com
You really do need to check out where those trucks are coming from.
Are you referring to “The Plot Against America” by the great Philip Roth?
That was a great book
Yea, Israel is deciding how much aide gets in. Egypt is a client State, and just follows orders.
So I don’t see why it matters where the aide is coming from.
Actually, I cited right here what is actually going on with the Gaza-Egypt border. That AMA signed in 2005 is like the best kept open secret I’ve ever seen in the US. No wonder Europe thinks we Americans are all twits.
A client state to the ZOG?
A client State to the US.
Egypt’s foreign aid paycheck from the United States is contingent on Egypt’s participation in the Camp David Accords, and so therefore Egypt must placate Israel. Otherwise, Israel would nullify the Accords and the US would stop sending money to Egypt.
Can the reverse be said if Egypt nullified the Accords?
“The time has come for us to tell Egypt that we will begin to work to remove it from the list of the U.S.’ preferred state,”
Guess who said this?
The answer is Liberman! Liberman has the capacity to remove and add countries to the list of the US preferred states haha! Where are the Zionists are taking the US?
source: link to haaretz.com
Recall Lieberman in April? “Believe me, America accepts all our decisions.”
Then, recently, the AFP covered this:
Netanyahu Savours Victory after U.S. Drops Settlement Demand
I think maybe they should call the US = Usreal ~ Uncle Israel!
The “aid” comes into Gaza via Kerem Shalom border crossing, which has limited capacity to transfer goods. Fuels and gas have been transferred through the Nahal Oz crossing and recently Israel has been directing the transfer through Kerem Shalom. Kerem Shalom is located in Gaza’s south east corner.