Tzipi Livni was Israel's foreign minister when Israel massacred Gaza two years ago, killing more people than Mubarak killed and more people than Gaddafi is said to have killed at this point-- though Mubarak's murders drew international media attention and outrage, and Gaddafi's murders have drawn our meditative president to the microphone. Remember that when children were dying in Gaza, Obama had nothing to say at all.
Because the Goldstone Report of '09 (read an excellent abridged version here; buy the book, please) found that Israel had likely committed war crimes in Gaza, and alleged war crimes by Hamas as well, and said those war crimes should be investigated under universal jurisdiction, Livni has cancelled some travel plans. But today she is in the Washington Post op-ed page. I haven't read it, can't bring myself to. Moon of Alabama has quaffed some of the poison for me:
In which Tzipi Livni explains that Israel isn't a democratic state:
"democracy to take root in the Arab world - not merely as a government system but as a values system that embraces nonviolence, coexistence, freedom, opportunity and equality"


One of the pleasures of “democracy” (and blogs) is remarking on language.
Consider these words: police, secret-police, thugs, prison guards, mercenaries, terrorists, private police, security-forces, army, militia, illegal combatants, criminals, gangs. Which are which? How do they overlap? Which of these words even mean anything? Are they all, so to speak, Kosher instruments of “democratic” state power?
Then think of Israel, with settler thugs (being ignored by army and police), police and army attacking peaceful demonstrators, black-masked secret-police, secret-police masquerading as Arabs, settler militias and security-forces, black-masked (I think) army (in attack on Mavi Marmara), etc.
Israel like Libya? USA like Libya?
Have a look at this compilation from the Palestine Papers (with links to the documents at AJ), according to which the Palestinian negotiators want Bibi out and Livni back as PM. Quite likely that the Obama admin. agrees:
link to elderofziyon.blogspot.com
the livni article is definitely worth reading! it’s a classic alright. in a democracy it’s not the votes that count so much!!!
say wha? maybe livni forgot a democratic process wasn’t how hitler got into power. does that key democratic principle mean support of israel? there’s more. livni suggests countries apply for a universal code for participation in democratic elections. i kid you not.
and her own government? hello!
and to think that she soon will be PM.
it certainly shouldn’t be her pointing out the obvious about others when her own country continues to slide away and it doesn’t seem that she, in power, will much change things.
will Israel degenerate until it’s the equivalent of the vile bunch of goons running Gaza?
what will that Tzipi do?
She won’t be. Lieberman will be the next PM.
Will you be voting for him fuster?
They already have a vile bunch of goons running Israel.
Shingo…… remember your (silly) prediction. maybe write it down so that you can swallow your words…
but if Lieberman is swept into the PM’s chair, it will be because I cast hundreds of thousands of votes for his racist program.
that Moldavan goon makes me swoon, Shingo. he’s just the kind of guy you’ll grow up to be, should you ever.
I know hopw ashamed you are to have a fscxist Israel FM fuster, but don’t blame me for the fact that Israel is turning into one giant tea party.
Sorry, Shingo, I’m not any more ashamed of him than I am of Ahmadinejad. Two racist fascist pieces of sh1t.
The second will be dead before the first is PM of anything.
With any luck for the world, they’ll both be in prison.
Seeing as you voted for him I guess you’re stuck with him.
Mind you, unlike Liberman, Ahmadinejad doesn’t belong to a terrorist organization.
I’m sure Israel is working on it.
:::::::I’m sure Israel is working on it.::::::
and good luck to them with that.
::::::Seeing as you voted for him I guess you’re stuck with him.:::::
I did vote for the little iranian marionette but I think that my ballot got thrown away with all the others.
She’ll do what she did the last time she was PM. She’ll slaughter a bunch of Arab children and condone direct attacks against UN facilities and personnel.
Don’t forget Chaos,
She’ll also say “thatnks but no thanks” to any Palestinian proposal.
Also, she can see Tehran from her settlement!
This is slightly off-topic but have you all given any thought to putting Moon of Alabama on the blogroll? I had literally forgotten about it until you mentioned it in this post.
we should. annie is big on it, and im new to it, but we should hop on that bad boy
that would be cool
;)
“But mere anxiety is not a policy for any leader. The values and experience of the Jewish people demand that we embrace the promise of real democratic change, not merely express concern about uncertainties associated with it. World leaders are required to shape events so that our collective aspirations, rather than our fears, become reality. ”
Livni’s article was substantive, hopeful. Yours on the other hand was another hatchet job.
“I haven’t read it, can’t bring myself to. “
Pardon me, but are you praising and characterizing as hopeful the head of state who, among other things, directly ordered attacks on UN facilities in Gaza?
Yeah, right, if by substantive you mean hypocritical.
“This would include requiring every party running for office to embrace, in word and deed, a set of core democratic principles: the renunciation of violence and the acceptance of state monopoly over the use of force, the pursuit of aims by peaceful means, commitment to the rule of law and to equality before the law, and adherence to international agreements to which their country is bound.”
Renunciation of violence and adherence to international agreements, eh? Be careful there Tzipi. Someone might take that seriously and extradite you to one of the places where you’re wanted for war crimes.
This whole BS article is a clumsy attempt to justify blockading or bombing any brown-people country whose election results we disagree with. Nothing else.
Militias and elections.
A contradiction in terms.
Just when I thought the straws you’re grasping at couldn’t get any thinner…
But it’s just too easy: So Israel cannot really have elections, right. Because, y’know, besides that international agreements business, Israeli settler ‘self-defense groups’ are armed to their teeth with military-grade automatic weapons. Palestinian groups pale in comparison (which is exactly the point.)
Double take at the headline. “PNG” usually stands for “Papua New Guinea” rather than persona non grata .
not north of the equator it doesn’t