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A crowd attacks participants in Ben Gurion Airport (Photo: Joseph Dana)

Joseph Dana has been stationed in Ben Gurion Airport all day reporting on the “Welcome to Palestine” initiative. The scene he has shared can only be described as chaos. Israel has barred journalists from entering the airport, arrested Israeli activists who came to Ben Gurion in solidarity and stood aside as Israeli passerbys cursed, spit on and punched “Welcome to Palestine” travelers arriving from abroad.

In an piece on +972 titled “Air Flotilla” successful in exposing Israeli blockade of West Bank, Noam Sheizaf has described Israel’s response to the protest as “panic” and added, “it seems that the whole country has gone mad.” That looks about right, and it appears the “air flotilla” has also been successful in exposing the delusional siege mentality that seems to be governing Israel and the vast majority of its citizens these days. The government’s existential fear of tourists visiting the occupied territories is yet another sign that the delegitimization of Israel is a self-fulfilling prophecy that Israel’s leaders seem bent on bringing to fruition.

Below is Dana’s live twitter stream from this morning and be sure to read over the last few hours.

 

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  1. seafoid
    July 8, 2011, 9:08 am

    This is all over the European media.
    Ordinary Europeans watch and ask why Israel is so stupid.
    My mother in law just rang me about it and did the same. What do they want to hide, she asked.

    There was a super quote about Rupert Murdoch’s company today that is über relevant to Israel :

    “The strategy seems to be to destroy as much value of the company as possible by consistently underestimating the power of story and overestimating their ability to control it.

    link to ft.com

  2. seafoid
    July 8, 2011, 9:45 am

    This also draws the attention of the world most wonderfully to the fact that Israel controls all access to occupied Palestine.

  3. Shingo
    July 8, 2011, 10:01 am

    This is brilliant.

    Israel’s parnoia, dementia and psychosis on full display.

    What are they going to do now, blockade their own airport?

    BTW. Has anyone seen this? I watched it twice and could not get my head around it. Is it suposed to be a parody of Israel or is Israel admitting to their collective neurosis, parnoia, delusional and general nuttiness?

  4. Shmuel
    July 8, 2011, 10:20 am

    A CROWD ATTACKS PARTICIPANTS IN BEN GURION AIRPORT

    What do you expect when the internal propaganda machine has told them that a Norwegian tourist informing a border guard that the purpose of her trip is to visit a friend in Bethlehem poses a “threat to Israel’s existence”?

  5. Hamishe_Sabz
    July 8, 2011, 10:28 am

    Here is a list of everything that anti-Israel activists managed to accomplish this week:

    Cause the already cash-strapped Greek government to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on coast guard and security
    Lose their cement
    Start a riot at a French airport
    Whine about every obstacle stopping them from doing illegal activities
    Upset airlines who lose money for every empty seat
    A hunger strike that accomplished nothing
    Tick off passengers trying to travel
    Turn sympathetic Dutch reporters against them
    Insult Greek authorities, airlines, airports, European and American leaders
    Continuously lie to the media, pretending that the very media attention they are getting is a victory
    Get every major Western nation to publicly side with Israel
    Fail to help a single Palestinian Arab in any way
    All in all, they accomplished about the same amount they did last week and the week before.

    • Mooser
      July 8, 2011, 11:01 am

      Hamische, why don’t we just get right down to the brass tuchas and say:

      3) They suck!

      Why beat around the burning bush, baby?

      • Hamishe_Sabz
        July 8, 2011, 1:57 pm

        Everything sucks!
        lol, it made my day!.

        We all suck! no exception!.

      • Taxi
        July 8, 2011, 3:48 pm

        Sorry wrong again hamiche – only racist zionists suck. Just go ask the world if you don’t believe me.

        But do carry on with your nervous hyena tickle and twitch.

      • Mooser
        July 8, 2011, 4:42 pm

        “lol, it made my day!. “

        And there’s the second endorsement of the article by a Zionist!

      • LeaNder
        July 8, 2011, 6:20 pm

        you’re simply the best. How does one get into the Mooser state of mind. I was tempted to get angry.

    • justicewillprevail
      July 8, 2011, 11:15 am

      Ha ha, that ‘s a pretty feeble list of supposed failures:

      Upset airlines? oh my, that’s really terrible
      tick off passengers? Oh dear, how inconvenient
      lose cement?? A crime, obviously
      insult various people? No, Israel did a better job of that
      lie to the media? they’re nowhere near the continuous lies streamed out of israel on a daily basis

      Still, they’ve bothered you enough to post a list of made-up nonsense. So they haven’t entirely failed

    • Taxi
      July 8, 2011, 11:44 am

      Hamiche,

      You forgot to add that the peace activists failed to ignite a massive holocaust too.

      Too bad South Africa this week made it LEGAL to use the true phrase: Apartheid israel. Hot damn how did racist like you let something so GIGANTIC like this happen?! Sorry if you lost your hasbara bonus for this failure.

      • Hamishe_Sabz
        July 8, 2011, 1:53 pm

        why does everyone misspell my name…dont believe me google it.

        Apartheid israel has been used for the last ten years or so, ru implying that it was illegal before..??? the only way Apartheid israel would make sense is that if west bank and gaza is indeed part of israel. occupation and Apartheid doesn’t go together.

      • annie
        July 8, 2011, 2:44 pm

        the only way Apartheid israel would make sense is that if west bank and gaza is indeed part of israel.

        not. go read the crime of apartheid. as long as one government is ruling both peoples w/different systems based on their ethnicities it’s apartheid. so neither gaza nor the west bank need to be part of israel for that to apply.

      • Taxi
        July 8, 2011, 3:39 pm

        Hamiche,

        Not interested in googling your name.

        Apartheid loving trolls bore me.

        Unless they’re paid by hasbara central.

        In which case I’m interested in them but ONLY as far as exposing their dark Goebbelsian arts.

      • annie
        July 8, 2011, 3:45 pm

        hamishe, phil has written a post today Eric Alterman on his dual loyalty and the U.S. pressuring Palestinians to accept ‘their historic position’

        it’s an interesting discussion. perhaps you’d like to weigh in.

      • Mooser
        July 8, 2011, 4:45 pm

        ” occupation and Apartheid doesn’t go together.”

        Oh, I get it now! Apartheid bad, occupation good? And permanent occupation is even better?

    • Charon
      July 8, 2011, 3:00 pm

      Hey you just copied this from attorneysdefendingisrael and we all know that they are a terrorist organization.

      The Greek government acted on their own accord in the interests of a foreign country. They are the only one

      The cement was already paid for under a signed contract. The company caved due to political pressure from Greece which you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to realize it was Israel’s decision

      No airline is going to be upset, Israel has deep pocket books to pay for those empty seats.

      How do you know what the hunger strike did or did not accomplish?

      I doubt they ticked off anybody trying to travel. The only people they ticked off were the ruthless monsterous hoard at Ben-Gurion.

      They never insulted Greek authorities, they said they were courteous despite impounding their ship and throwing some in prison

      Israel continuously lies to the media. CONTINUOUSLY LIES TO THE MEDIA! Always. They are pathological liars

      No Western nation sided with Israel. Maybe they delivered statements about the flotilla but that was out of fear

      More and more people know about the Palestinian situation thanks to them. Baby steps, if the flotilla was not sabotaged and prevented by Israel they would have accomplished even more. The fact that non-US MSM covered Israel’s lunacy is bad enough. They’ve taken yet another huge PR hit and this thing just spirals downward even further as more people realize the truth and see that the Zionists are pathological racist and immoral liars. Crooks. Criminals. They belong in prison, not in occupied Palestine

      Look at these tricks they use in words. Like the list you copied, they could’ve said ‘a single Palestinian’ but they added Arab. People don’t say “American blacks” or “Israeli Jews”, not very often. It was a deliberate attempt to invoke some sort of racism toward Arabs that Israel has been generating for decades, especially after 9/11. They think readers will see that and agree with them because they might be racist toward Arabs. All the tricks, anybody who thinks for themselves can see them.

      • Haytham
        July 8, 2011, 7:30 pm

        They think readers will see that and agree with them because they might be racist toward Arabs. All the tricks, anybody who thinks for themselves can see them.

        This is only my personal opinion, and I state it with all due respect, but the [bold] part of the quote, above, effectively disqualifies 95% of the American population.

        This is the main problem with the United States today. Almost every single major issue/problem facing the nation is a direct and proximate result of the populace’s inability to seek out and rationally and logically analyze information.

        A good example of how this is perpetuated is the need by the media to present “the two sides” of every story, meaning “The Republican Side” and “The Democratic Side.” There is no alternative “side” and usually very limited analysis of what each side’s position actually entails. It’s very sad, really.

    • Shingo
      July 8, 2011, 11:20 pm

      Cause the already cash-strapped Greek government to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on coast guard and security

      It was Israel that made that demand.
      Greek diplomats have admitted that the move by the Greek government to block the flotilla was not based on law, but political pressure. Hence, it was Israe’s fault, but then again, what’s new about Israel demonding others spend money on it’s behalf?

      There was no need for Greece to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars stopping the boat, seeign as the flotilla was breaking no laws.

      Start a riot at a French airport

      There haven’t been any riots in France since 2010.

      Whine about every obstacle stopping them from doing illegal activities

      There was nothing illegal about their activities, which is why they are challenging the Greek government in court.

      Upset airlines who lose money for every empty seat

      Why woudl they lose money when the seats were already paid for?

      Tick off passengers trying to travel

      Yeah sure, and TSA is there to give hugs to everyone baording a plane.

      Turn sympathetic Dutch reporters against them

      Which Dutch reporters turned against them?

      Insult Greek authorities, airlines, airports, European and American leaders

      You mean, the same American leaders who gave the Israelis the go ahead to kill Americans, teh same Greek leaders who bankrupted their own country and are breaking their own laws?

      Continuously lie to the media, pretending that the very media attention they are getting is a victory

      Israel looks more and more stupid than ever – that’s a victory.

      Get every major Western nation to publicly side with Israel

      What Western nation was not publicly sided with Israel prior to this event?

      Fail to help a single Palestinian Arab in any way

      As opposed to what, siitting back and hoping Israel would do it?

      All in all, they accomplished about the same amount they did last week and the week before.

      Think again.
      link to haaretz.com

      Israel has banned journalists, visitors, and demonstrations, this claims to being a free and democrtic socieity has been exposed as a hoax.

      Mission accomplished I’d say.

  6. Chu
    July 8, 2011, 10:55 am

    wow, a few more altercations with the rest of humanity
    and Israel will be looking even more ludicrous.
    Paranoia will destroy them internally. I feel sad for them.

    All they need to do, is settle on a peace agreement that
    allows for a successful Paelstinian state. That, or
    become the Jewish Jonestown of the 21st century.

    • seafoid
      July 8, 2011, 11:12 am

      I feel the Israeli elite’s need to ratchet up the paranoia every time they communicate to the people via the press. It is bizarre. And the army is right in the middle of it. What is the army doing getting involved in such nonsense ?

      • Chu
        July 8, 2011, 12:04 pm

        Yeah. They created a state of fear, so they’ve set themselves up to be the macho guys fighting the world. Too bad the US media will not ever cover this decent into darkness with this loving ally. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

        And when is the Israeli public going to oust Netanyahu and his crew? His popularity is soaring after he humiliated Obama in the White house last month. Nice that Israel is spitting on it’s one ally. Israel is Washington’s special interest project that has gone amuck. No more pork for them, I say.

  7. eGuard
    July 8, 2011, 11:12 am

    The attacking mob is not deemed a disturbance then?

  8. RobertB
    July 8, 2011, 11:26 am

    Gaza “Flytilla” Arrested for Chanting “Free Palestine” in Tel Aviv Airport

    Click on link to watch video:

    link to weeklyintercept.blogspot.com

  9. longliveisrael
    July 8, 2011, 11:30 am

    I would love to see these so called activists go to the airport in Damascus yelling “Free the Syrian people” or in the country that supports Hamas, Iran, and go to the airport in Tehran and yell ” Free the Iranian people.”

    • justicewillprevail
      July 8, 2011, 11:43 am

      They could, but Israel treats the Palestinians far worse than Syria or Iran treats their populations, so why not start with the worst human rights abuses?

    • Taxi
      July 8, 2011, 11:47 am

      Ya longnolive we already knew you’re gonna say that: hasbara diversion, the usual blah blah blah boring predictable brainwash.

    • pjdude
      July 8, 2011, 11:54 am

      I didn’t know Syria and Iran were occupied? could you tell me what states occupy those countries?

    • seafoid
      July 8, 2011, 12:18 pm

      FFS , Long live Israel

      Your spiel about Israel being more civilised than the neighbours died when the white phosphorous was unveiled.

    • MLE
      July 8, 2011, 1:24 pm

      except I don’t hear anyone defending Assad or Ahmadinejad??? The Arab press has noted the hypocrisy of Hezbollah and Iran for praising some Arab Spring Revolutions and ignoring or criticizing others. Also, refugees coming from Libya into Tunisia and Egypt and Syrians into Turkey have been met with warmth and generosity by their hosts.

      Also, when Assad falls, I assume you’ll be the first to call for returning the Golan to the Syrians unconditionally as an act of friendship from Israel to the new Syrian government- right?

    • Charon
      July 8, 2011, 3:10 pm

      Isn’t that #4? Everything sucks

      A deliberate attempt to hijack rational discussion and criticism by reminding everybody the world is not perfect and Israel isn’t the only problem so people should be focused elsewhere, nothing to see here.

      It’s a trick. A Zionist trick. I read “A clean break” and we all know that the Zionists and their neocon friends have been trying to destablize the Middle East for decades.

      We all know how they feel about Syria because they occupy Golan Heights and they have no peace treaty with them. David Ben-Gurion also claimed that the lower Syrian desert was part of “Eretz Israel” which your people probably still believed because they are brainwashed into that cult.

      Tehran! Iran! Suitcase nukes! Ahmadinejad is like Hitler! Yes it is true because we say it is! He is like Hitler even though the Supreme Leader is the one with the real power. We said the same about Saddam and you believed us! Assad is too! Hezbollah and Hamas and these terrorists are all Iran proxies!

      We’re sick of hearing this. I have no idea what is going on in Syria but something is really strange because even that journalist who was detained noted that the ‘protesters’ worse designer shoes and spoke Hebrew. Awfully strange, eh? Then there was the faker blogger. Some are saying that mutilated kid was a hoax. I don’t know what to believe at all!

      Before it was Iran it was Iraq. Same lies. Before Iraq it was the Soviets. The PLO are proxies of the Soviets and they could use suitcase nukes! America do something!

      We’re sick of the lies. You guys are crying wolf and repeating the same rhetoric, the same story with a different cover, we don’t believe a word that you are saying so we are going to continue to focus on your illegal occupation and expose to the world all the crimes you have committed with our tax money

      • Kris
        July 8, 2011, 6:40 pm

        Great rant, Charon!

        I can’t help feeling sad for the people who grew up sincerely believing that Israel was something wonderful, a “light unto the nations” arising from the horror of the Holocaust, and are now are trying to fight off their growing realization that Israel is just a racist group of colonists who worship at the altars of the false gods of fear, injustice, and brutality.

    • alec
      July 8, 2011, 5:06 pm

      I’m sure lots of activists are working hard to dismantle any persecution in either Syria or Iran. Many of them were indirectly funded by the US, at least in the case of Iran.

      Now, let’s return to the subject at hand, Israel’s human rights abuses.

      • Taxi
        July 8, 2011, 5:28 pm

        Alec,

        We’re also paying the Libyan so-called freedom fighters (freedom’s whores if you ask me). There’s also allegations that we’re paying people in Syria and also in Sudan (old and new).

        Look, there are four major paymasters in the middle east: USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Israel (israel makes USA pay on it’s behalf). This foursome were the movers and shakers BEFORE the Arab Spring and unfortunately they still are holding this seat. Only difference is that they’re way less popular now, but they’re still rich and throwing mega money around tryna fix stuff to their advantage. And ironically, all these countries use American dollars for cash bribes.

        That’s why it’s not a lie to say our grubby hands are everywhere in the dusty mideast.

  10. richb
    July 8, 2011, 11:30 am

    Based on my personal experience, Israel really has no option. Unlike the Birthright trips my being on a Christian Zionist tour meant we visited Nazareth and Bethlehem, being of historical significance to Christians. The instructions we were given in our pre-trip packets when we boarded El Al didn’t make sense until now. Don’t get upset if they ask “strange” questions. Make sure you stress that this was organized by an Israeli travel agency and that you have an Israeli guide. Make sure that you stress that you are coming on a Christian pilgrimage tour.

    When I was questioned I was asked if we had traveled to the Middle East before. My wife’s responses flustered the El Al security agent, “Does Italy count? We traveled to Italy two years ago.” “Do you know anyone from the Middle East?” “We have some really nice Jewish friends at our health club. I think they are Americans, though. That’s a nice ring. Are you recently engaged?” “Thank you. Please move along.”

    Even though our tour told the Israeli point of view 95% of the time and the Palestinian point of view 5% of the time it was enough for me to get a sense that something was very seriously wrong with the propaganda I was hearing back here in the United States. Bethlehem was important since our Israeli minder wasn’t allowed to be there and we had a Palestinian tour guide for the Church of the Nativity. The Israeli guide left it hanging to make it appear to be that he couldn’t be with us because of the Palestinians rather than — the truth — it was the Israelis who kept him out. Our Christian Palestinian guide left us wistfully with the hope that one day he could be face-to-face with our Israeli guide.

    So, my advice to the activists tell the truth but keep your head down in the airport and don’t protest there and get to Bethlehem. Obviously, if the Israelis block even that, protest away. Seeing first-hand how I was lied to all my life was what made the difference for me.

    • RobertB
      July 8, 2011, 12:31 pm

      richb…

      I have some friends who went last year on a church tour & they echoed some of the same points you made in your post. Their Israeli tour guide took them to Nazareth, but told them that he could not go into Bethlehem. So they ended up not going to Bethlehem. And no one did anything with that reason/explanation & no options were given by the Israeli tour guide.

      They ended up touring the Old City in Jerusalem. And right before entering the Arab/Palestinian Old City’s side…,their tour guide instructed everyone on the tour to keep their purses/pocket books in front of them at all times.

      For the Israeli mission…its all about their PR objectives. Not only are we benefiting from their tour groups money/flying with el-al, but above all, having an Israeli guide with the Church tour groups… ensures that Americans/Christians only hear about Israel’s side & how great things are…ect…

      • richb
        July 8, 2011, 1:48 pm

        In Nazareth we went to Nazareth Village and had a Palestinian Christian guide. Since our Israeli guide touted Nazareth as a “mixed city” I asked the Christian Palestinian guide about the percentage of Muslims, Christians, Jews etc. (He pointed to the courthouse at Nazareth Illit and said see there are both Jewish and Arab judges there. He didn’t mention what an asshole the mayor of Nazareth Illit is nor that the Arabs are largely confined to the valley that Nazareth Illit overlooks.) She then told me about the “internal displacement”, aka ethnic cleansing that occurred that turned Nazareth from majority Christian to majority Muslims since the Muslims who had their villages destroyed fled to Nazareth. The Jewish military governor in 1948 refused orders since he had promised not to the previous day and did not do the same for Nazareth.

        I was in Nazareth/Cana on Land Day so I saw the peaceful demonstrations. Due the general strike that occurred that day our guide was relieved because there would be less street vendors to steal our wallets and passports. I Googled Land Day at the hotel that night and it was beginning of my awakening.

        The Bethlehem experience was surreal. I expected it to be like any other controlled border and we had our passports ready. I assumed that we would need to show them to the PA as we entered the territory they supposedly controlled. I quickly discovered the Israelis controlled everything while crossing the “prison walls”. There was no security entering Bethlehem while machine gun toting IDF walked our bus leaving Bethlehem. This was supposedly for security but my experience at the Western Wall disabused me of that concept. Our pastor had a metal hip replacement and they ignored the fact that when he set off the metal detector. Of course, he was white.

      • RobertB
        July 8, 2011, 4:03 pm

        richb…The narratives & your observations of your “Holy Land” tour must have been eye openers for you & I can see that you have been doing some fact finding research regarding the area/topic.

        As you know, the Israeli IDF stop Palestinian vehicles due to a different color license plates on their cars/trucks when compared to Israeli settlers living in the West Bank. They make them pull to the side of the road for questioning, harassment & long waiting periods.

        For Israeli Jewish settlers…NO stopping from their IDF & they have roads for “Jews only”. Non-Jews cannot drive on these roads. BTW, those hundreds of settlements are for “Jews Only”. No Christians and / or Moslems can live in them.

        Click on links below…for further information/facts/resources:

        ~~~~~~~~~~~

        Israeli Settlements
        on Palestinian Land

        Israel currently has 124 Jewish-only settlements, 100 ‘outposts,’ and 12 ‘neighborhoods’ annexed to Jerusalem – all built on confiscated Palestinian land.

        Palestiniansdo not have any
        settlements
        on Israeli land.

        link to ifamericansknew.org

        ***************

        Israeli Checkpoints and Their Impact on Daily Life

        Photo of Palestinians man with a footprint on his head.
        A Palestinian man with a footprint on his head from being beaten by Israeli soldiers at a checkpoint. Palestine Monitor

        Israel has constructed hundreds of checkpoints and other roadblocks on Palestinian land, which restrict Palestinian travel between, and sometimes, within, their cities and towns.

        Many checkpoints are manned by heavily-armed Israeli soldiers and sometimes guarded with tanks. Others are made up of gates, which are locked when soldiers are not on duty. In addition there are hundreds of dirt or concrete roadblocks, which prevent the passage of all vehicles – family cars and ambulances alike.

        Due in large part to the checkpoints and roadblocks, Palestinian movement is severely restricted. Journeys of short distances can stretch into hours when Palestinians are detained at checkpoints or forced to circumnavigate roadblocks or closed checkpoints.

        Blind-folded Palestinian men and women hold their arms up against a bus.

        Palestinian men and women detained by Israeli soldiers. Palestine Monitor

        Harassment, Humiliation, and Death

        Extensive evidence indicates that whether or not a Palestinian is allowed to pass through a checkpoint is often arbitrary. Journalists and other eyewitnesses report that Palestinians have been denied access because they are smiling, or are deemed ugly, or simply because the soldiers don’t feel like letting them pass.”

        link to ifamericansknew.org

      • richb
        July 8, 2011, 5:29 pm

        As you know, the Israeli IDF stop Palestinian vehicles due to a different color license plates on their cars/trucks when compared to Israeli settlers living in the West Bank. They make them pull to the side of the road for questioning, harassment & long waiting periods.

        For Israeli Jewish settlers…NO stopping from their IDF & they have roads for “Jews only”. Non-Jews cannot drive on these roads. BTW, those hundreds of settlements are for “Jews Only”. No Christians and / or Moslems can live in them.

        I noticed that too while in Israel. We were on the Highway 90 bypass road and our guide crowed, “We are now in the West Bank. Don’t see any bullets flying do you? Tell you friends back home that CNN is certainly not news. They are just watching television but you were there and saw this with your own eyes.” Of course, you couldn’t help but miss all the road blocks and checkpoints between us and the Palestinian villages. The guide also made a big deal about how the Palestinian villages had no fences around them but the settlements did with guards on their roofs. That proved that the Palestinians were violent but not the Israelis since the Palestinians didn’t need any fence to protect them from the Israelis.

        But the most unconscionable anecdote occurred at the Holocaust Museum. The guide mentioned how trees were planted honoring righteous Gentiles who had helped save Jews during the Holocaust. He then mentioned how the JNF had planted acres and acres of trees to make Israel “green”. Only when I came back did I find out the real purpose of those trees, to erase the evidence of ethnic cleansing in Israel.

      • RobertB
        July 8, 2011, 10:07 pm

        Thanks for sharing your experience/knowledge from your “Holy Land” tour visit. Your information/detail has been specific & interesting to read. The information about the fences around the settlements & the planted trees are just pure hasbara deceptions to invoke sentiments for Israel.

        I can just imagine the thousands of people going on these well programmed tours…they just don’t see & don’t know the facts on the ground. Most of them just stay in-line & just gobble up what their Israeli tour guides feed them.

        Over 500 Palestinian towns & villages were destroyed by the Israelis/Urgun/Stern Gang terrorists in the late 1940/1950′s & after the 1967 war. Many of them with little or no traces at all. And like you described covered with planted trees.

        Here is a website that has all the information, pictures, maps and much more regarding Palestine, its cities, towns, villages, districts… history…etc…

        link to palestineremembered.com

      • mig
        July 9, 2011, 7:51 am

        RobertB, here is also very good information.

        Cohre report,

        RULING PALESTINE
        A HISTORY OF THE LEGALLY SANCTIONED JEWISH-ISRAELI SEIZURE OF LAND AND HOUSING IN PALESTINE

        link to cohre.org

        link to cohre.org

        I warmly recommend everybody download and read that report.

      • stevieb
        July 9, 2011, 10:38 am

        reading about how your guides were laying on the hasbara about trees being planted by the JNF made me think of “Canada Park” – built on the remnents of destroyed Palestinian villages(like all of Israel, actually) with the aid of the Canadian JNF -funded by Canadian taxpayers…

      • seafoid
        July 8, 2011, 2:04 pm

        My mother went on a Christian pilgrimage to “the holy Land” and by the end the whole party was shocked by what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. Most of them hadn’t realised before. She said the worst part was talking to Israelis who didn’t know what their soldiers were doing.

        It is very hard to go to Bethlehem without noticing that something about the situation is not quite right.

      • richb
        July 8, 2011, 3:59 pm

        If your tour doesn’t include Bethlehem here’s how you can meet real Palestinians: visit Silwan on your free day in the Old City. We had visited the City of David which is an “archeological” park of Jerusalem purportedly when David and Solomon were kings. Unlike other such parks this is not run by the government but by a settler organization. The reason why I put archeological in quotes is the methodology of salvage archeology has not been used by reputable archeologists for over a century. Refuge archeology digs tunnels rather than digging straight down in a grid. What this allows for is the false narrative that nothing has happened in Silwan for the 2000 years from the destruction of the Temple to now. Finding out that Jerusalem was somehow shared would break the spell. See http://www.alt-arch.org. Even better insist on taking their tours: link to alt-arch.org and get the real story from real, professional, archeologists rather than settlers with an axe to grind. If you cannot do than, just do the following: Exit the Dung Gate and go down the hill, presumably to go to the City of David, but keep walking and boom you’re in Silwan. If you are on the “official” tour your tour bus will pick you up after going through the tunnels to keep you from meeting those nasty Palestinians. These tunnels are being extended to the Western Wall complex tunnels so even the few hundred yards of Palestinians can be avoided, too.

        The settlers that run the City of David have a settlement in Silwan known as Beit Yonatan named after the traitor, Jonathan Pollard.

        link to settlementwatcheastjerusalem.files.wordpress.com

        In the run up to Nakba this year the security forces there murdered a Palestinian teenager, Milad Ayyash.

        link to silwanic.net

        Beit Yonatan has had two separate orders from the Israeli Supreme Court to leave but they won’t.

    • Charon
      July 8, 2011, 3:40 pm

      I have a question. It is unrelated, but since you say you are a Christian Zionist I thought you might be a good person to ask.

      Obviously the Holy Land is important to Christians as this is the birthplace of Jesus. That makes sense to me. We all know it’s important to the Jewish people too and it is also important to Muslims (after Mecca and Medina). That all makes perfect sense so I would totally support and understand pilgrimage.

      But it appears that when he read about Christian Zionists they mostly seem to be a rapturous fundamentalist bunch who completely support the idea of Israel as a Jewish State and view any criticism as criticism of God. In that sense, no offense because this isn’t directed at you but I have always thought of them as ‘useful idiots’ because of it.

      The idea that the modern militarized state of Israel fulfills end times predictions is a hoax. It is true that there are people that support carrying out what they interpret as signs of the end times. That’s not how a prophecy is fulfilled and the crimes being committed go against the teachings of Christ.

      In the 19th century, John Nelson Darby created an interpreted translation of the Bible using questionable source methods and quite possibly under Zionist influences. He created Dispensationalism and the entire concept of the rapture never existed before he created it nor did giving the Holy Land exclusively to Jews.

      In the 20th century Cyrus Scofield used the Darby Bible as a basis for his referenced King James Bible. Scofield was Jewish and most certainly a Zionist. His Bible said that Palestine belonged to the Jews at a time when Zionists were attempting (and eventually were successful) at obtaining most of it.

      I don’t know how many other Zionist Bible meddling went on, but these two were the most successful and many derived works and fundamentalist beliefs can be attributed to them.

      I’m not knocking anybody’s religion but if the source material is a hoax, then the whole Christian Zionist movement (in the useful idiot sense in helping the Jews get to Palestine) is based on false pretenses regardless of what people believe. A hoax is still a hoax even if a majority believes in it, they’ve been tricked.

      Is that your belief as well? That is what I have always assumed to be the case for Christian Zionists which is an odd label to use. It seems to be contained mostly to Protestants in the USA and Canada and is supported by politicians like Sarah Palin and Stephen Harper (who are definitely ‘useful idiots’).

      • richb
        July 8, 2011, 4:22 pm

        I think this is addressed to me. I am not a Christian Zionist but I know enough of them to answer your question. You are right to point to Dispensationalism as the origin of Christian Zionism. Evangelicals who are not Dispensationalist are skeptical of Zionism for reasons I will detail below. Dispensationalists separate the Old and New Testaments into dispensations and they also separate the people of God. Christians inherit eternal life while Jews inherit the land. Jesus offered salvation to the Jews but they rejected it. So, he went to the Gentiles as Plan B. Jesus also predicted in Matthew 25 that “this generation would not pass away” before the Temple was destroyed and he would return. Slight problem. He didn’t return in one generation. So, the Dispensationalists put a parenthesis around the prediction. When Israel became a state in 1948 the clock started ticking again. There was a hugely popular pamphlet known as 88 reasons for the Rapture in ’88 (one generation of 40 years from 1948). Take two with adding 40 years to 1967. I’m not sure what the official post-2007 answer is now.

        Evangelicals who are not Dispensationalist don’t separate the Jews from the Gentiles and don’t treat the nation of Israel as “special”. Any promises to Jews are to them as a people and not as a nation state. Matthew 25 in their opinion had 70 AD more in view than some future time. On my trip a Dispensationalist told me we should have the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in another. A non-Dispensationalist evangelical pastor on the same trip told me the exact opposite we should NOT have a newspaper in one and a Bible in another.

      • American
        July 8, 2011, 8:58 pm

        That’s very interesting,…thanks.

  11. sycamore
    July 8, 2011, 1:27 pm

    Where were Ethan Bronner and Isabelle Kirshner from the New York Time’s Jerusalem desk? I suppose proofreading yet another Israel slice of life story.

  12. seafoid
    July 8, 2011, 1:53 pm

    Gosh, things are really paranoid in Israel

  13. Les
    July 8, 2011, 2:12 pm

    Delicious citation from Noam Sheizaf’s article”

    “And this is another mouthpiece for the occupation, Washington Post’s blogger Jennifer Rubin:

    ‘Now ninety-five percent of Palestinians are under the jurisdiction of the PA, which is responsible for everything from local police to schools. Israel’s official interaction with West Bank Palestinians is limited to intelligence gathering and extraction of terrorists.’”

  14. Orange Jewlius
    July 8, 2011, 5:17 pm

    The airport should be called Lydda. Not Ben Gurion.

    • seafoid
      July 9, 2011, 8:11 am

      And it is not in Tel aviv either !

      • stevieb
        July 9, 2011, 10:44 am

        Good for you, John. It’s pleasing to read a Christian rejecting the anti-Christian(and anti-Jewish, for that matter) agenda of dispensantionalist Christian Zionists on those grounds. Yes it should happen more, but I still like it…

  15. john h
    July 9, 2011, 12:06 am

    Charon and richb, much of what you say about Christian Zionism is spot on.

    I was attracted to this when I first became a Christian. It naturally blended in with my already keen interest in world affairs. Some years later, I realised what a bunch of delusion it was from the New Testament point of view. However, it is only in recent years I saw how dangerous and shameful it is, when I finally grasped what damage it had done and is doing to the name of Christ, and how traitorous it is to Jewish and Palestinian Christians.

    The name itself is a contradiction and an oxymoron. Zionism is the antithesis of Christianity and in that respect ranks with Al Qaeda. It is the very opposite of the New Testament teaching on Israel and who are God’s people, and about justice and how to live.

    So yes, it is indeed a hoax that has hoodwinked and transfixed so many Christians. Just as Zionism has highjacked and disgraced Judaism, so Christian Zionism has highjacked and disgraced the evangelical Christianity I am part of.

    Compare the idea of having a newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other with what Jesus said, “It is not for you to know the times and seasons”. Compare the Zion of Christian Zionism with the Zion of the New Testament.

    Richb, your mention of “a hugely popular pamphlet known as 88 reasons for the Rapture in ’88 (one generation of 40 years from 1948)” is a good illustration of the entrenched belief that the generation Jesus mentioned was what is commonly understood as the time-span family difference between children, parents, and grandparents.

    Many years ago, I discovered from my own personal study of how Jesus used “this generation”, that the usual meaning is not even close to what Jesus intended. This can clearly be seen from his usage in Luke 11:47-51. His mention of Abel shows he is obviously referring to a kind of people who have always been and will remain until he comes again. In this sense, there are two generations, which he spells out in Luke 16: 8: “the sons of this age are wiser in their own generation than the sons of light”. So in Matthew 24 he means “the sons of this age” that are part of the heaven and earth that will pass away (verse 35). He immediately goes on to talk about those same two kinds of people and their destiny.

  16. ToivoS
    July 9, 2011, 12:11 am

    What a wonderful demonstration. This will force the Israelis to start screening all visitors looking for subversives. Imagine the idiot officials trying to figure out who is good and who is bad. A 10% error rate will likely reduce tourism by, well, 10%. Now this is bds on steroids.

  17. American
    July 9, 2011, 1:24 am

    OT but distrubing.

    link to france24.com

    Race tirades or insults are disgusting but as long as they are words and not actions I don’t think they rise to the level of criminality. And in reality this defeats the purpose of tamping down hate…cause if this guy didn’t hate Jews and the Asian he insulted before he’s sure gonna hate them now……even if he has to do it in private or with some like minded group.
    You aren’t going to change anyone’s mind about Jews or blacks or whoever by putting them in jail or fining them…..all that will do is make them resent whoever even more and drive them further into it. The women he insulted would have served their respective tribes better by ignoring him than by trying to make an example of him.

    God knows if the US had laws like this some of our most famous zionist would be in court for the racial slurs they have hurled ..and written…against Arabs. But as entertaining as that spectacle would be ……it’s overall a bad law and bad idea.

  18. Jeffrey Blankfort
    July 9, 2011, 1:36 am

    Just since it hasn’t been mentioned, the fellow with the sunglasses in the center of the photo is evidently Larry Derfner, the only writer on the Jerusalem Post who tells the truth about what’s happening there, like he’s the Post’s resident human being. I read somewhere that he got arrested. We we can look forward to reading about it in his next column.

    I’m not sure what impact, if any, the fly-in will have in the US–probably very little–but in Europe where polls show that Israel is considered one of the major threats to the future of the planet, Israel’s standing should sink even lower and the fact that so many European governments cooperated in block the flights will convince the majority of Europeans that their negative opinion of Israel was well founded.

    It would interesting to poll Europeans today to see whether or not they agree with the comment made by a French official some years back when he aptly described Israel as “that shitty little state.” I have a hunch that most of the MW posters would be pleased with the results as would the Palestinians.

    • mig
      July 9, 2011, 8:09 am

      One vote from here to “that shitty little state.” And its european voice.

    • seafoid
      July 9, 2011, 8:17 am

      FT print edition says :

      “the protest did succeed, however, in laying bare Israel’s growing sensitivity to new forms of protest and in exposing the Israeali Government to charges of “overreaction” and “hysteria” – both inside the country and abroad.

      The organisers of the action which was held under the motto “welcome to Palestine” hailed it as a success. In a statement issued on Friday they decried the Israeli crackdown but said “we are pleased that this episode further exposes Israeli policy towards anyone or anyone relating to Palestinians as dictatorial, racist and criminal”.

      link to salem-news.com

  19. Oscar
    July 9, 2011, 8:01 am

    Great pic by the great Joseph Dana. The Jack Nicholson-looking guy in the middle of the fracas with the grey hair and the sunglasses is JPost columnist Larry Derfner,

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