Ehud Barak on Charlie Rose Tuesday night
Check out the video of Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Charlie Rose Tuesday night. At 20:00 or so, he says that he has ordered a missile attack on Gaza because of an attack on Israel:
"Today a few hours ago, there was some Hamas... probably a crazy guy, he's a Hamas guy... he shot at Israel [perhaps this attack] and we now, probably when we are talking, I ordered some attacks on some installations of Hamas."
As he mentions his orders, Barak checks his watch. It looks like a steel and gold Rolex. Countless human rights reports have suggested that Barak is a war criminal for leading the attack on Gaza in 2008-2009. Isn't this an unseemly performance for American television?
And considering how many times in the past the IDF's operations against *terrorist* infrastructure have resulted in civilian casualties (like the injuries to the French consul and his family in Gaza last Sunday), maybe Barak should have postponed his appearance on Rose to monitor those attacks. Or not. Perhaps his nonchalance about mentioning them extends to his feelings about their consequences.
What are you more upset about, that the attack happened, or that he said that there was something in the works (that he was actually informed about)?
And, no comment on the firing of missiles FROM Gaza?
Innocent?
Who else might be callous in this discussion?
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
link to en.wikipedia.org
Woof!
I take then you approve of the Israeli attack on the French consul in Gaza? Who’s being callous, “Freedom Fries” Witty? Certainly not the hundreds of children who died in less time then your son used to get on summer break.
Hasbara is losing the battle. Get over it. Barak symbolizes Israel’s arrogance. It will be their downfall. Sooner the better.
Good account of Israeli Atrocity Number 36,557. Complete with the nonchalant Rolex glance by Barak.
I think we are now sufficiently informed to launch a nationwide campus boycott of all Israeli products:
link to youtube.com
How many Israeli atrocities does it require, to demand a simple boycott resolution against Israel at your student government?
Sorry, but this is comical. Barak is a war criminal and Hamas are saints?
Proportion, gents, proportion.
cast lead gents, cast lead
Fckin’ A……The history of Zionist/Israeli warfare is a history of disporportion, is this Krauss cat serious?
>> cast lead gents, cast lead
Isn’t that the saying? “Let him who is without sin cast the first lead!”
Cast Lead. Where Hamas admitted that more than half of the Gazan casualties were ‘resistance fighters’.
Cast Lead. Where, oddly enough, most of the children killed were males between 15-17.
Cast Lead. Where 99.99% of the Gaza’s population living in the ‘densest population center on the earth’ ESCAPED death in the midst of a three week ground, sea and land onslaught by the 4th largest and most lethal army on the planet.
they didn’t admit, they bragged. and bombing a police inauguration is murder. they weren’t part of a military brigade.
The cold-blooded massacre of those police officers was an obvious war crime.
May those who perpetrated that atrocity be held accountable for this cowardly act and the many other heinous war crimes and crimes against humanity Israel has committed during their genocidal military operation a.k.a. Cast Lead.
You know, if you’re going to treat Gaza like the Warsaw Ghetto, then you’re going to get exactly what the perpetrators of that atrocity got at Nuremberg.
Chaos. Your memory fails you.
In the Warsaw Ghetto, the Nazis didn’t warn the Jews with cell phone calls, leaflets and warning munitions to leave a targeted area, an extraordinary effort that led career military man Colonel Richard Kemp to say, “based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: during operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in the combat zones than any other army in the history of warfare”.
Don’t start building your gallows quite yet.
The Goldstone report does not reach any conclusion about the character of the targeted policemen. However, the Goldstone Report did not ignore a contradictory claim posted on the Iz al-Din al-Qassam website, where someone claiming to be a policeman states that this was an “advanced army training course.”
IDF intelligence pointed to certain policemen identified as priority targets owing to their participation in specific security forces in Gaza, security forces considered responsible for the assassination of collaborators with Israel.
“Among others, there were members of the domestic security apparatus who posed a palpable threat to [Israel's] intelligence activity in Gaza,” claims this IDF source. He adds: “There were also persons who took part in tunnel activities, smuggling advanced weapons into Gaza, as well as militants from various security forces who were focused on carrying out terror attacks in the immediate future.”
Regarding members of the domestic security apparatus who assassinated collaborators, it is worth mentioning that after Cast Lead, Amnesty International released a study that cited “at least 24″ executions carried out in this period. Others suspected of collaborating with Israel were tortured with burns, the organization’s study suggested.
These ‘policemen’ sound like Gestapo to me.
If you believe that these killers let the Gazans know that they were about to be
Killed, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
Don’t forget: Israel is achieving just exactly what Adolfo Hitler dreamed of: he wanted the world to hate the Jews.
Imagine if there was internet during WWII and someone used the moniker, “proudnazi777″…there would rightfully be an uproar! And this proud supporter of a racist, criminal, apartheid regime has the balls to say it loud and proud?
Shame, shame, shame…
Memory fails big time someone else here. IDF give warnings yes, told areas that would be “safe”, and then started to bombard those “safe” areas. Just like a Lebanon conflict 2006, IDF told “safe passage routes” away from south-lebanon, and then started to shoot vehicles that were using those routes. Nothing new to me, i have seen same pattern before with my own eyes.
How’s this for proportion?
link to ifamericansknew.org
Who said that Hamas was saintly? But yeah, Barak is a war criminal. Your sense of humor is weird–you seem to laugh at things not said and you also seem to think it’s funny to see Barak as a war criminal. I wonder why.
“Proportion, gents, proportion’
Yea Kruss…proportion. How would you like the force of the US military to fall on Israel..with you there?
Don’t yada me on how that will never happen just tell me how you would like being under full out assault by a huge military machine?
That’s similar to Israel assaulting Palestines.
From WSJ
Panetta Warns Israel on Iran Strike (again, what is this, the 4th time?)
By ADAM ENTOUS
HALIFAX, Nova Scotia—Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday he was cautioning Israel against taking military action against Iran, urging more time for diplomacy “at this point.”
He warned that a strike could have potentially severe security and economic consequences across the region and globe.
“We share a common concern with regards to Iran and their effort to develop a nuclear capability,” Mr. Panetta said ahead of talks on Friday in Halifax with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak.
“But I think the United States feels strongly that the way to deal with that is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts that would further isolate Iran in the international community,” Mr. Panetta said. “That is the most effective way to try to confront them at this point.”
Mr. Panetta said he has made these “points” before in closed-door meetings with Israeli leaders and that he intended to do so again on Friday when he meets with Mr. Barak on the sidelines of a security conference here.
Mr. Panetta cited U.S. concerns about the “unintended consequences” of any military action against Iran.
Mr. Panetta said a strike would raise “serious concerns for us” because of the potential danger to the tens of thousands of U.S. troops in the region should a broader conflict break out.
Mr. Panetta also cited the potential economic consequences of a strike against Iran, which is a major oil producer, “not just on our economy but the world economy.”
Moreover, the former Central Intelligence Agency director said, a military strike would likely only delay Iran’s development efforts by “maybe one or two years at most.”
If this goes as usual, Israel will pretend they giving up their golden opportunity to strike Iran and doing it for the sake of the US—-then there will be a huge billion some pay off of US tax dollars to Israel once again—given to Israel for their great sacrifice. I can’t count the times we have paid off Israel on one pretext or another.
(again, what is this, the 4th time?)
something like that. i know i reported it here on the 12th which was a saturday and the report said thursday which would have been the 10th.
I wish Panetta and a lot more government officials would use a much stronger massage, like:
“If you attack, we will not back you up, you are alone” or
” We will shoot down your planes over Iraq as you are jeopardizing american lives” or
“Your planes returning will find there are no more airports to land”
I think you have the timeline incorrect. Charlie Rose interviews are taped, they are not live broadcasts. The Israeli attack would therefore have happened PRIOR to Tuesday night, on whatever day the program was taped(probably a day or two ahead of the broadcast).
The only recent Israeli raid that matches Barak’s description was on Sunday night/early Monday morning when an IDF airstrike flattened a Gaza police compound, which the IDF referred to as a “terror activity center”, and killed a policeman. This was the VERY SAME attack in which the French consul and his family were injured, not a “similar one”.
gee, i wish for archive purposes comments like this also be included in the french consulate thread. i think i may go over there and link to this subthread. strange , very strange.
Annie, what is “strange”, do you mean?
However, I do think it is strange that someone on an interview with a reporter says “now when we are talking I ordered an attack”. What?
I mean he didn’t go to a commercial break/intermission and then call someone? He ordered this in the course of the interview while he was talking with the reporter? Please explain.
It’s an unusually clear and direct interview of the basic issues. Five things struck me. 1) Barak’s vision is a permanent, and growing, Jewish state, 2) permanent military occupation of the West Bank, 3) continuation of settlement in the West Bank, 4) no sharing of Jerusalem, 5) and no plan for Gaza. There is no room for a two state solution in this vision. Barak’s reference to Jeffersonian democracy is interesting. Was he thinking of the fact that women and blacks were disenfranchised in 1780, or was it just an empty phrase?