Six Palestinian Freedom Riders arrested traveling on Israeli-only bus

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freedom riders Huwaida Arraf and Fadi Quran on Israeli Bus 148. (Photo: Activestills)

Below is a Livestream video of the protest that was broadcast live, and is now being replayed:

Watch live streaming video from freedomriders at livestream.com

The following statement was made at the start of the Freedom Ride protest this morning:

My name is Hurriyeh Ziadah. I am the media spokeswomen for the Palestinian Freedom Rides campaign. Thank you all for being here today.

Fifty years ago brave African American civil rights activists challenged the racist and unjust laws of Jim Crow by boarding buses to the segregated South, thereby embarking on a campaign of civil disobedience and direct action.

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(Image: Facebook)

In less than an hour, Palestinian activists, taking inspiration from the Civil Rights Movement’s Freedom Rides, will embark on a similar civil disobedience campaign to challenge Israel’s regime of colonial Apartheid in Palestine.

Although the tactics and methodologies differ, both white supremacists and the Israeli occupiers commit the same crime: they strip a people of freedom, justice and dignity. In undertaking this action we do not seek the desegregation of settler buses, as the presence of these colonizers and the infrastructure that serves them is illegal and must be dismantled. As part of our struggle for freedom, justice and dignity, we demand the ability to be able to travel freely on our own roads, on our own land, including the right to travel to Jerusalem.

We also aim to expose two of the companies that profit from Israel’s apartheid policies and encourage global boycott of and divestment from them. The Israeli Egged and French Veolia bus companies operate dozens of segregated lines that run through the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, many of them subsidized by the state. Both companies are also involved in the Jerusalem Light Rail, a train project that links illegal settlements in East Jerusalem to the western part of the city. By facilitating population transfer into occupied Palestinian territory, Egged and Veolia are actively and knowingly complicit in Israel’s settlement enterprise, which the International Court of Justice has determined to be a breach of international law.

Martin Luther King, Jr. said: “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”

We urge the people of the world not to accept the evil that is our occupation, dispossession and oppression, and to divest yourselves and your governments from the corporations that enable Israel to continue doing this to us. Egged and Veolia are two transportation companies that serve Israel’s segregated, colonial, infrastructure. By passively accepting their presence and not protesting against them, you are all indirectly complicit in the crimes they commit against us, and the profits they make from the violation of our rights; violations that the Freedom Riders will expose today.

Our rights will not voluntarily be handed to us, so we are heading out to demand them.

We know that in undertaking this action we risk arrest, vicious attacks by Israeli settlers, abuse by Israeli soldiers, and even death. We take this risk upon ourselves as a step towards ensuring Freedom, Justice, and Dignity for future generations of Palestinians and all people in the region.

The six Freedom Riders who were arrested are Nadeem Al Sharbate, Badee Dwak, Huwaida Arraf, Basel Al Araj, Fadi Quran, and Mazin Qumsiyeh. They were all take to the Atarot prison. Here are some background and updates there were posted on the Palestinian Freedom Riders Facebook page:

Nadeem Alshirbaty, one of the arrested Freedom Riders from Hebron, is 33 years old and one of the founders of Youth Against Settlements group. He visited Jerusalem 14 years ago, and when asked why is he riding the bus said “This is our duty to defend our rights and land, even if it is the last day of our lives.”

Basel Al-a’raj , another freedom rider was arrested. Basel is 28 years old pharmacist and a youth activist from Walajeh village in Bethlehem district. Today Basil tried to disturb the settlers road traffic, his friends heard him shouting as he was arrested “lets boycott Israeli… Freedom to Palestine”

Bassel Al Araj’s last words before arrest: “I am Bassel Al-Araj, a Palestinian Freedom Rider. Boycott Egged Boycott Veolia!”

Fadi before arrest: Please divest from all companies that benefit from the Apartheid regime!

Fadi Quraan , one of freedom riders was also arrested. Fadi is a 23 old Palestinian from Ramallah. He was born in Jerusalem and he is currently a graduate student at Birzeit University finishing his master degree in Democracy and human rights. This morning when he his asked about his motivation for riding the bus , he said: “ I believe that our generation will free Palestinian through every possible way of popular resistance.

Badi’ Dweik, one of Freedom Riders, 38 years old and from Hebron detained is one of the founder of the International Campaign to Revive the Shuhada Street in Hebron. When asked why is he boarding the bus, he said that this is a means of resisting the Israeli occupation…he said: “ I am a believer in the justice of our cause, we will be free if we each do our duty…we should try all resistance means to end the occupation”

Mazen Qumseyeh from Beit Sahour, is 54 years old. He is a Professor and researcher at Bethlehem and Birzeit Universities. He was several publications on Palestinian struggle and Popular resistance in Palestine.

Huwaida Arraf, one of the arrested Freedom Riders, is 35 years old and a member of the International Solidarity Movement. She is the coordinator of the Freedom Flotilla and is responsible for the “Free Gaza” movement that initiated the Freedom Flotillas demanding to lift the siege over Gaza.

Update — The Freedom Riders campaign just sent out the following press release:

Earlier today, seven Palestinian Freedom Riders were violently arrested while attempting to ride on segregated Israeli public transportation taking settlers from inside the West Bank to occupied East Jerusalem in an act of civil disobedience inspired by the Freedom Riders of the U.S. Civil Rights Movement.

Asserting their own aspirations for freedom, justice and self determination, six Freedom Riders boarded a settler bus at 3:30 pm in the occupied West Bank near the illegal Jewish-only colony of Psagot. In a scene reminiscent of the early U.S. Civil Rights Movement, border police and the army surrounded and shut down Jerusalem Bus 148, blocking the Freedom Riders at the Hizmeh checkpoint.

The action clearly highlights the injustice and dispossession that Palestinians face under Israeli occupation and apartheid. The six freedom riders who boarded the bus originally (as well as an additional rider) were arrested and are currently at the Israeli Atarot police station.

Badee’ Dwak from Hebron, who was arrested during the ride said: “Companies operating Israeli buses, like Egged and Veolia, are directly complicit in Israel’s violations of our rights. They transport settlers in and out of our occupied land, on roads that we often can’t use into places that we can’t reach, including Jerusalem. They need to be divested from and boycotted. Not just here, but around the world. It is a moral duty to end complicity in this Israeli system of apartheid.”

In December 2010 Human Rights Watch released a 166-page report (i) on the “two-tier” legal system that Israel uses to administer in Area C and East Jerusalem. The report made clear that Israel’s legal system enables and facilitates the theft of Palestinian land and openly discriminates against Palestinians. West Bank Palestinians are prohibited from driving on certain roads and are limited in their housing choices. Police and army brutality are a fact of life.

Huwaida Arraf, also among those arrested, stated: “The U.S. Congress repeatedly claims it is for the rights of people around the world facing oppression and injustice. But when it comes to Palestinian rights and Israel’s decades-old denial of them they are notably silent. In fact, they continue to provide Israel with the most deadly weapons, money and diplomatic cover to maintain its oppression and protect it from international sanctions. Too many lack the courage to even criticize Israel for the racism on display here today.”

Basel al-Araj commented prior to his arrest: “The settlers are to Israel what the KKK was to the Jim Crow South – an unruly, fanatic mob that has enormous influence in shaping Israeli policies today and that violently enforces these policies with extreme violence and utter impunity all over the occupied Palestinian territory, especially in and around Jerusalem.”

Hurriyah Ziada, one of the event’s organizers said: “Israel’s occupation and apartheid system must end and all of Israel’s Jewish-only colonies that sit on stolen land must be dismantled. As the Arab Spring spreads across the region, rekindling hope for freedom, social justice and democracy to replace tyranny and repression, we struggle on the ground for the basic, comprehensive rights of the entire Palestinian people. We call on people of conscience around the world to compel Israel into complying with international law by applying creative, sustainable, and context-sensitive boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) initiatives. We too deserve freedom and justice.”

Among prominent international figures who have endorsed the Palestinian Freedom Riders campaign, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Alice Walker wrote: “Board the buses to Everywhere. Sit freely. Go into Jerusalem with my blessing. Like many of my country people, I have witnessed this scenario before and know where it can lead. To a straightening of the back and a full breath taken by the soul. Some of us have shed blood, others have shed tears. Some have shed both. All sacred to the cause of the dignity we deserve as beautifully fashioned citizens and Beings of this Universe.”

BACKGROUND: 
Several Israeli and transnational companies, among them Egged and Veolia, operate dozens of lines that run through the occupied West Bank (including East Jerusalem), many of them subsidized by the state. They run between different Israeli illegal settlements, connecting them to each other and to Israel. Some lines connecting Jerusalem to other cities inside Israel, such as Eilat and Beesan (Beit She’an), are also routed to pass through the West Bank.

Almost no limitations are imposed on the freedom of movement of Israelis in the occupied Palestinian territory. On the contrary, the Israeli government allows and even encourages its citizens to settle in the West Bank (especially in and around East Jerusalem), in violation of international law. Palestinians, in contrast, are not allowed to enter Israel without procuring a rarely granted special permit from Israeli authorities. Even Palestinian movement inside the Occupied Territory is heavily restricted, with access to occupied East Jerusalem and some 8 percent of the West Bank in the border area also forbidden without a similar permit.

While it is not officially forbidden for Palestinians to use Israeli public transportation in the West Bank, these lines are effectively segregated, since many of them pass through Jewish-only settlements, to which Palestinian entry is prohibited by military decree. This is one aspect of Israel’s regime of occupation, colonialism and apartheid (ii) against the Palestinian people.

The buses that the Freedom Riders boarded are operated by Egged, the largest Israeli public transportation company. Another prominent public transportation company in the Occupied Territory is the French transnational company Veolia. Both companies are complicit in Israel’s violations of international law due to their involvement in and profiting from Israeli’s illegal settlement infrastructure. Palestinian Freedom Riders endorse the call for boycotting both companies, as well as all others involved in Israel’s violations of human rights and international law. (iii)

In July 2011, an Egged subsidiary won a public tender to run bus services in the Waterland region of the Netherlands, north of Amsterdam. The company makes money from trampling on the rights of Palestinians and has been a target of the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) campaign, which is endorsed by an overwhelming majority of Palestinian civil society. The Freedom Riders call on the people of the Netherlands to sever all dealings with companies, like Egged, involved in human rights violations.

Veolia has been a target of an international divestment campaign for running bus lines through the West Bank connecting illegal Israeli colonies to Jerusalem and for its involvement in the Jerusalem Light Rail which connects illegal settlements in and around occupied East Jerusalem to the western part of the city, thereby directly servicing the settlement enterprise. (iv)

Israel has laid its military control over 42 percent of the occupied West Bank for the building of illegal Jewish settlements and their associated regime (v), including the wall which was declared illegal by the International Court of Justice in 2004, depriving local communities of access to their water resources as well as agricultural lands. Settling Israelis in the occupied Palestinian territory constitutes a war crime according to the Fourth Geneva Convention (vi) and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. (vii)

Settlements’ infrastructure includes hundreds of kilometers of segregated roads that are forbidden for Palestinians to use. They carve deep into the West Bank further separating Palestinians and their cities and villages from each other.

Notes:
i HRW report: Israel/West Bank: Separate and Unequal; Available at: http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/12/18/israelwest-bank-separate-and-unequal

ii In its most recent session in Cape Town, South Africa, the eminent jury of the Russell Tribunal on Palestine concluded that, “Israel’s rule over the Palestinian people, wherever they reside, collectively amounts to a single integrated regime of apartheid.” http://www.russelltribunalonpalestine.com/en/sessions/south-africa

iii Palestinian Civil Society Call for BDS, available at: http://www.bdsmovement.net/call.

iv http://www.bdsmovement.net/activecamps/veoliaalstom#.TsDEckOGXxQ

v B’tselem Report: “By Hook and By Crook, Israeli Settlement Policy in the West Bank, July 2010; summary available at: http://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201007_by_hook_and_by_crook.

vi See “Israel’s settlement policy is a war crime under the Fourth Geneva Convention,” The Palestinian Center for Human Rights, Gaza, highlighting the relevant articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention to support the determination that settlements are a war crime, at http://www.pchrgaza.org/Intifada/Settlements.conv.htm; see also “Demolitions, new settlements in East Jerusalem could amount to war crimes – UN expert,” UN News Centre, June 29, 2010, at http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=35175&Cr=Palestin&Cr1.

vii Article 8(2)(b)(viii) of the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court prohibits “[t]he transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”

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  1. Kathleen
    November 15, 2011, 8:54 am

    “we do not seek the desegregation of settler buses,” Is that right?

    Adam, Phil, Annie, all. Art Gish used to talk about Palestinian “Gandhi’s” that have been thrown into prison over the last several decades when they attempted to grow peaceful (commitment to non violence) marches, etc . That the Israeli government had up until recently been successful at squashing this type of movement for three decades. I am going to talk with Peggy Gish about this issue. But what do you folks know about the history of Palestinians or others who have tried to move the movement solidly in this direction over the years and who (according to Art) were often thrown in prison and a few killed. Will try to get names. But what do you know?

    The Palestinian Freedom Riders ….incredible!

    • Ira Glunts
      November 15, 2011, 12:22 pm

      Mubarak Awad

      • Kathleen
        November 15, 2011, 1:54 pm

        thanks you know anyone else thrown in prison over the decades for trying to initiate peaceful protest?

      • Memphis
        November 15, 2011, 4:14 pm

        I’m writing a paper for a human rights class on Political Repression, and chose to focus on the peaceful protests/demonstrations etc and the response they invoke from the IOF.

        I came across some good reports by B’Tselem and addameer. I will provide the links.

        off the top of my head, Jumal Juma, Mohmad Othman, Baseem Tamimi, and two others who Phil brought to light whom I cannot seem to ever remember their names, I will provide links.

        http://www.addameer.org/files/Reports/repression-allowed-resistance-denied-july_09.pdf

        http://www.btselem.org/publications?date_filter%5Bvalue%5D%5Byear%5D=&tid=173

        That is the topic link under freedom of expression, the first two reports detail Israel response to the protests.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/12/adeeb-abu-rahma-a-leader-of-nonviolent-protest-is-freed-after-17-months-in-prison.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/meanwhile-in-nabi-saleh-reflections-on-the-physical-and-legal-assault-on-nonviolent-protesters.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2009/12/where-is-the-palestinian-gandhi-in-israeli-prison-of-course.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/mohammad-othman-and-jamal-juma-freed-from-israeli-detention-thanks-in-part-to-international-pressure.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/mohammad-othmans-administrative-detention-is-a-sign-bds-is-working.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/meanwhile-in-nabi-saleh-reflections-on-the-physical-and-legal-assault-on-nonviolent-protesters.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/bassem-tamimi-to-judge-land-theft-and-tree-burning-are-not-just-your-military-laws-are-not-legitimate-our-peaceful-protest-is-just.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/my-experience-with-the-palestinian-ghandis-of-an-nabi-saleh.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/12/israeli-activist-sentenced-to-3-months-in-prison-for-protesting-gaza-war.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/11/israeli-forces-raid-bilin-in-the-middle-of-the-night-to-arrest-the-child-of-jailed-activist-leader.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/11/dana-i-ask-myself-if-i-would-have-the-moral-clarity-to-behave-as-the-palestinians-do-if-i-were-in-their-situation.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/israel-crushes-a-palestinian-gandhi-bil%e2%80%99in-organizer-sentenced-to-18-months.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/3-jews-showed-this-video-last-night-at-nyu-challenging-zionism.html

        http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/background-on-israel-as-a-jewish-state-and-the-ongoing-discrimination-against-palestinian-citizens-of-israel.html#more-53558

        http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/israeli-military-court-extends-jail-term-palestinian-anti-wall-activist-2011-01-11

        http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/09/08/israel-activist-convicted-after-unfair-trial

        http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/18/palestines_hidden_history_of_nonviolence?wpisrc=obinsite

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-St2hn_qPwE

        also, a good book on the history of Palestinian resistance is “Popular Resistance in Palestine” by Mazin B. Qumsiyeh. Whom was one of the 6 arrested on this bus ride.

      • proudzionist777
        November 15, 2011, 6:04 pm

        What a joke.

        Palestinians with the proper permits can use these buses to travel, but the activists believe that they should ride without permits same as Jewish and Arab Israelis do.

        One Jewish Israeli passenger stuck on the bus, Haggai Segal, asked the Palestinian activists, “can I go on a bus in Ramallah as a Jew? They answered that he could not.”

        Freedom for Arabs only, I guess.

      • Woody Tanaka
        November 15, 2011, 6:12 pm

        “Palestinians with the proper permits can use these buses to travel, but the activists believe that they should ride without permits same as Jewish and Arab Israelis do.”

        Silly Palestinians. Thinking they have human rights or the right to be treated decently.

        “One Jewish Israeli passenger stuck on the bus, Haggai Segal, asked the Palestinian activists, ‘can I go on a bus in Ramallah as a Jew? They answered that he could not.’

        Freedom for Arabs only, I guess.”

        Did they ask that Jew if he would support one state, equal rights for all? I doubt it.

      • proudzionist777
        November 15, 2011, 6:41 pm

        Woody wrote: “Did they ask that Jew if he would support one state, equal rights for all? I doubt it.”

        Woody has, inartfully, evaded the issue of Jews not being allowed to ride Arab buses.

        Now where’s that 800 lb gorilla again?

      • anonymouscomments
        November 15, 2011, 7:10 pm

        What a joke, that quote is either false, or the person was mistaken. I have been on Palestinian buses with JEWS MANY TIMES. And I am half Jewish, ethnically. Jews go to area A all the time u ass, some live there, and jewish Israelis who are not brainwashed are in area A every effing day. Figure out reality already, I know it is tough for zionists.

      • chocopie
        November 15, 2011, 7:29 pm

        Freedom for Arabs only, just like in the Jim Crow era, when only blacks had the freedom to attend inferior black schools. Whites were not allowed.

        If Jews in Palestine want the right to ride buses in Ramallah, live in Ramallah, go to school with Palestinians and marry them, they need to join the fight against apartheid.

        If Jews just want to be left alone in their own colonies, and with their own services in Palestine, and not interact or cooperate or live equally with the natives, then no, they can’t have that. They have to fight for their freedom to live equally with Palestinians. Jews are not any worse than Palestinian people. I know it seems that way because of Israeli violence, but truly, I do believe Jews are equal people and can be equal to Palestinians. Some day I believe Jews will achieve equality in all of Palestine.

        In your little story, why only the Jewish Israeli passenger has a name? Palestinian activists have names too. Which activist? Name him/her.

      • thetumta
        November 15, 2011, 7:40 pm

        I’m sure Jews can ride on the bus unless of course their part of the Zionist occupation forces. Some already have. I’ll bet Phil can ride on the bus, the next time he visits, unless the Israelis stop him.
        Hej!

      • anonymouscomments
        November 15, 2011, 8:19 pm

        Also, uninformed zionists never lack irony or ignorance of their utter hypocrisy. In truth the real reason Israelis “cannot” go to area A is not Palestinians, it is ISRAELI LAW (assumedly for their safety but in practice it is now just so they don’t see the occupied are just nice people in a living hell limbo). Google AIC cafe….. Israelis are there in area A 2x a week drinking beers and working for peace. Their only fear is the IDF COULD RAID THE BAR AND JAIL OR FINE THEM. IF the PA has any laws against Israeli civilians acting like normal civilians it is NOT enforced. And I am sure there are no laws about Jews being there. Further, the comment is even more ridiculous as the term JEW is used, not ISRAELI. JEWS are living in the west bank in tangible numbers, and going to bars in ramallah etc. and going on day tours and overnight tours etc. When I did an organized tour I met at least FIVE Jews.

      • proudzionist777
        November 15, 2011, 9:13 pm

        Here is the link to the quote. Scroll down to Haggai’s. Segal’s quote.

        When you rode the Arab bus did you where a kippah like a proud Jew?

        http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=245717

      • anonymouscomments
        November 15, 2011, 11:26 pm

        proudzionist777-

        No I did not wear a kippah, I am an atheist. But I will state that an Israeli I know does (“proudly”) wear his kippah in area A, though he is usually driving and I doubt he uses the buses. However, I will state it is an oddity, and for most Palestinians it must be a very unusual sight to see.

        At this point, the only “proud” kippah wearing Jews *most* Palestinians see are illegal settlers, or checkpoint soldiers. And the ones they FEEL are the settler fringe, beating them or throwing rocks at them, or the occasional unprovoked beating/gratuitous abuse at a checkpoint.

        You should note that Palestinians in ISRAEL do not flip out at the sight of a Jew with a kippah. However, given the dynamics of what Israel is doing with violent colonization and land theft in the West Bank, it is expected that many would look very oddly upon a Jew with a kippah on the bus. This was not true before Zionism and its violence and separation came to Palestine, it is not an issue in Israel, and it was not an issue in the first years of the post-1967 occupation (when people thought it was temporary). But now it is a little weird for a religious Jew to be wearing religious garb in area A (but it *is* done, just rare).

        In fact you might want to note that before Palestinians started to struggle for basic rights, with the intifadas, Jews commonly visited the territories and frequented Arab markets etc.; there were kippahs all over the cities, especially the cities close to Israel. I still see signs in HEBREW on defunct stores around Bethlehem from those days, and they sell tourist stuff with HEBREW on it in Hebron (and in area A, *Arab* shops). Sadly, Israel insisted on colonization and oppression, hence Israel has *chosen* to make it a little strained for religious Jews to mingle in the PA controlled areas like they used to.

        I am sure you are a fan of perceiving everything as unadulterated Jewish victimhood, but it is quite clear why it is admittedly odd/provocative for *religious* Jews to run around the Palestinian areas in the occupied territories… the reason is the whole history of Israeli policies, but especially those since 1967.

        And also let’s look at some massive inherent bias in the respective rights you are seemingly *equating* [rights that I have already proved in fact EXIST for Jews, and even Israelis….].

        You seem to think Israelis *deserve* the right to freedom of movement in the West Bank, including perhaps access to Arab public/private bus services. You do not seem to understand that the protesters were using services operated on their OWN, stolen, occupied land. The actual *equivalent* to what you presumably think “proud” kippah wearing Jews deserve would be this…. Occupied stateless Palestinians having access to buses in Tel Aviv (forget the more relevant right to simply go there). BTW, I am not arguing such rights even be granted to *any and all* Palestinians under the *current conditions*, absent a peace agreement…. I am pointing out the equivalent level of mutual respect, which we are currently very far from (due to the occupation and Israeli expansionism…. resistance, including violence, was the obvious reaction, but this is a chicken and egg thing, but HONEST people know what came FIRST).

        Zionists…. When people are so far from objectivity, factuality, historical honesty, mutual respect, empathy, etc. etc. the gulf is just too big. Where do you even start? Does it ever get anywhere? Can you change the hardened perspective of a Zionist, even when you give them new facts they were ignorant of?

        Your name says it all…. why did I try to give you facts that obviously contradict your non”point”, and might even enlighten you? Then instead of a rational conversation, you go bring the KIPPAH into it like you pulled some trump card… and I FURTHER rebut your “point”. But WTF do you want… we are talking about effing buses in some utterly FALSE analogy, yet the occupation/colonization is the REAL 800 POUND GORILLA.

        Open your eyes to the real gorilla or elephant or whatever giant mammal you fancy, and stop imagining gorillas that do NOT exist.

        (apologies for the rant proudzionist; I just got really frustrated at the futility of it all as I rambled…)

      • Chaos4700
        November 15, 2011, 11:26 pm

        Are Jews supposed to wear kippahs ALL the time? Any time they’re in public? The photo shows a Palestinian woman without a hijab. That means she was either Christian, or she was a Muslim woman who chooses to forgo it, or she’s secular or something else entirely.

        If you’re trying to convince us that Israel isn’t all about Jewish privilege, you’re doing a very poor job of that with the arguments you’re lurching into.

      • Richard Witty
        November 16, 2011, 4:13 am

        The pressure to segregate occurred and occurs in two directions.

        Prior to the first intifada, my own Zionist folk-singing third cousins had Palestinian, Bedouin friends that they would meet in cafes in Arad and Beersheva. I personally went out with them in Beersheva in 1986 where they sang in a cafe with Palestinians, informally, not pretentious.

        Following the first intifada, the Palestinians stopped singing with them, stopped going to integrated cafes. Both the Israelis and the Palestinians got pressure to not go.

        In apartheid South Africa there were no integrated cafes, no tourist traffic from the occupying white areas, to the dreaded dark areas. There was trade but it was entirely of a traditional colonial nature, no cultural exchange as peers in any respect, no friendships.

        The wall makes things different. And, the attitude of resistance and habitual condemnation makes things different. Both.

      • RobertB
        November 16, 2011, 10:19 am

        anonymouscomments…This is a great post indeed! It is pleasing to see an informed Jewish person who is on the side of humanity, truth, justice, human rights, peace and NOT on the side of ” zionism=racism” and its brutal oppression/occupation of the Palestinian people.

        Watch this Rabbi protest against zionism! Watch how Palestinians & Jews got along before zionism came to Palestine….

      • anonymouscomments
        November 16, 2011, 10:33 am

        witty….

        get the chronology right, with some basic rationality.

        the occupation, colonization, and denial of the most basic rights made RESISTANCE 100% NECESSARY. but i agree that the self-segregation comes from both sides… but realize that israeli POLICY is what fostered the unavoidable resistance and by extension, the segregation.

        common zionist thinking is like blaming a girl who fought back and injured a rapist (let’s say the rapist was an ex-boyfriend). they should have had a discussion and reached mutual agreement that he would cease raping her, right? maybe he should retain the right to fondle her breasts as well, cause you know, they dated, and he should always have that right. her decision to hit him and gouge his eyes was assault, plain and simple. and as long as she insists on violent resistance to being raped, he can not only continue raping her, he can get other extended family members to join in, as to stop under such violent resistance would just be rewarding violence.

      • john h
        November 16, 2011, 9:40 pm

        The wall makes things different. And, the attitude of resistance and habitual condemnation makes things different. Both.

        The wall has become a permanent fixture, which indicates Israel will never expect Arabs not to do what they did in the second intifada, even though those atrocities ceased years ago.

        Jewish Israelis and those they elect have an attitude of resistance; that is, of resistance to change, in fact they are continuing their expansionism at an even faster rate in violation of international law.

        And that will not be changed by any of the three main parties.
        Habitual condemnation is rife from both peoples and their representatives.

        It is the inevitable expression of frustration that leads to demonization when the other does not play the ball they think it should.

        What has made things different are the arrogant actions and bad faith of Zionists, which as a result has produced the negative reactions of those affected and oppressed and humiliated by Zionism. It is but the culmination of its over 100 years of existence.

        There is only one real solution. You know what that is, but cannot even imagine it ever happening. That is because it would mean you would be without the idol you worship from a distant foreign land.

        I challenge you, Richard. Begin the long journey back to what could become your new reality. A good way to start would be to watch RobertB’s video.

      • john h
        November 16, 2011, 10:31 pm

        Zionists…. When people are so far from objectivity, factuality, historical honesty, mutual respect, empathy, etc. etc. the gulf is just too big. Where do you even start? Does it ever get anywhere? Can you change the hardened perspective of a Zionist, even when you give them new facts they were ignorant of?

        Read MRW’s explanation of why what you described is so apt. It’s on the thread “Saul Bellow didn’t like WASPs”. It’s near the start of the comments. He gives more tangible proof at the end of the discussion on this.

        Fascinating stuff.

      • anonymouscomments
        November 17, 2011, 1:44 am

        john h- thanks for the tip on the thread. being a biomedical engineer i love that stuff. the both broad and deep knowledge, insightfulness, and wit* of you MW posters is, frankly, astounding. i think in time they should do some bar meet-ups/fundraisers in major cities, as i would love to meet the faces behind the handles.

        *excluding the self-described richard witty

      • john h
        November 17, 2011, 4:28 am

        Well now, anonymouscomments, you’re one of those MW posters now yourself, just as I am; how about that!

        When I discovered MW more than two years ago, I only read it. Then because I was posting frequently on another site, I thought to do so here. But after only a couple of posts I got cold feet. I thought just what you said, of the “broad and deep knowledge, insightfulness, and wit” that was astounding, and that I was therefore in another realm, well out of my league, and was here only to learn rather than both learn and contribute.

        It was only in August I realised I was selling myself short, perhaps because I had grown out of where I had been posting. I saw that I belonged here too, that we are all different, and that I too had something to add to the mix. And it’s been a ball, I’m loving it.

        Your idea of meet-ups/fundraisers may well strike a chord, but some people would have to count themselves out. Only because some of us don’t live in North America – this is after all where the global village meets – so we can only get to have chats like this one.

        Keep rambling and telling it like it is, we are part of something bigger than us.

    • anonymouscomments
      November 15, 2011, 5:13 pm

      I have seen Mazin Qumsiyeh speak multiple times and met him in beit sahour. He is a champion of unarmed resistance and I think an expert. I believe at least two of his books go in depth on such ghandi like movements and leaders since the very beginning of zionist immigration.

      http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=gb&client=ms-android-vf-us&source=android-browser-goto&action=devloc&q=mazin+popular+resistance

  2. tod
    November 15, 2011, 9:07 am

    Great initiative! Is there any coverage reaching mainstream media?

    • Kathleen
      November 15, 2011, 10:26 am

      We should be spreading. 3022 viewers right now. So terrific

    • Kathleen
      November 15, 2011, 11:41 am

      Contacted many MSM outlets asking them to cover this or at least whisper about it tonight, today. Even Huff Po put it on one of their Occupy threads. Occupy Wall street…Palestinian Freedom Riders trying to Occupy Israeli Apartheid buses/roads

      • Ira Glunts
        November 15, 2011, 5:00 pm

        They are on the BBC, AFP, Ynet, Jerusalem Post, Los Angeles Times and a whole lot more. Maybe you started something, Kathleen.

  3. seafoid
    November 15, 2011, 10:40 am

    Israel is autistic about Palestinian rights. There are no such things. It will be interesting to see the response.

  4. seafoid
    November 15, 2011, 12:08 pm

    interesting post at promised land re hasbara failure
    http://www.promisedlandblog.com/?p=4124

    There is an interesting tension in Israel between the tremendous efforts put into Hasbara – Israeli advocacy is probably the most widespread and ambitious state-run propaganda effort in the world today – and a sense of “Hasbara failure” in the Israeli public. Rants about the fact that Israel is misunderstood and complaints about the incompetence of those dealing with Hasbara are often heard in the popular media. In my opinion, “the failure of Hasbara” is actually a failure of policy – especially, but not limited to, that relating to the occupation and the control over the Palestinians.

    Understanding this point could shed light on a self-defeating element in the Hasbara battle: as Israel loses interest in finding a solution to the Palestinian question that would meet the minimal moral standards of the Western World – either “one man one vote” or complete Palestinian sovereignty over a contiguous territorial unit – Hasbara efforts are just likely to draw more attention to the ongoing Israeli failure to live up to the promise of its talking points, and will shed more light on the ever-growing gap between the model, picture-perfect democracy reflected in brochures and the grim reality on the ground.

  5. seafoid
    November 15, 2011, 12:11 pm

    Nadeem Alshirbaty, one of the arrested Freedom Riders from Hebron, is 33 years old and one of the founders of Youth Against Settlements group. He visited Jerusalem 14 years ago

    Jerusalem is 19 miles from Hebron.

    For West Bank Palestinians it might as well be 19000 miles away.

  6. Kathleen
    November 15, 2011, 12:13 pm

    You just never know where you might bust through. Huffington Post posted my challenge: “Cathleen” You just never know what is going to get through over there or through other MSM outlets
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/cathleen?action=comments

    Occupy Wall Street: New York Police Department Evicts Protesters, Clears Zuccotti Park [LATEST UPDATES]
    Commented Nov 15, 2011 at 11:24:44 in Business
    “Why no Huff Po light on this issue. . Live Stream to Palestinia­n Freedom Riders trying to occupy Israeli apartheid roads
    Palestinia­n Freedom Riders (live stream) arrested by Israeli police enforcing apartheid policies.

    http://mon­doweiss.ne­t/

    Watch live streaming video from freedomrid­ers at livestream­.com

    The following statement was made at the start of the Freedom Ride protest this morning:

    My name is Hurriyeh Ziadah. I am the media spokeswome­n for the Palestinia­n Freedom Rides campaign. Thank you all for being here today.

    Fifty years ago brave African American civil rights activists challenged the racist and unjust laws of Jim Crow by boarding buses to the segregated South, thereby embarking on a campaign of civil disobedien­ce and direct action.

    In less than an hour, Palestinia­n activists, taking inspiratio­n from the Civil Rights Movement’s Freedom Rides, will embark on a similar civil disobedien­ce campaign to challenge Israel’s regime of colonial Apartheid in Palestine.

    Although the tactics and methodolog­ies differ, both white supremacis­ts and the Israeli occupiers commit the same crime: they strip a people of freedom, justice and dignity. In undertakin­g this action we do not seek the desegregat­ion of settler buses, as the presence of these colonizers and the infrastruc­ture that serves them is illegal and must be dismantled­. As part of our struggle for freedom, justice and dignity, we demand the ability to be able to travel freely on our own roads, on our own land, including the right to travel to Jerusalem.”

  7. StanleyHeller
    November 15, 2011, 12:16 pm

    see new Latuff cartoon with Rosa Parks sitting on apartheid settler bus
    tv.thestruggle.org/node/552

    so far complete media blackout. contact the media and complain. Huwaida and Mazin are U.S. citizens

  8. ruthieofamerica
    November 15, 2011, 12:17 pm

    The Egged bus company has been in operation since 1933. Everyone rode on the same buses until the Second Intifada. After that there were so many buses bombed that even Israeli Arabs held their breath when another Arab go on the bus, fearing an explosion. The buses to Israelis in the West Bank are now bulletproof.

    Please remember, the black people in the South just wanted the right to ride on the buses in regular seats and not be thrown off the bus if white people wanted their seats, something they had never had. The Palestinians had this right and took advantage of their equality to kill people.

    Perhaps some people who are supporting the Freedom Bus protest did not know the history of Palestinian civil rights under Israeli law. For those who have heard about the violence but fail to mention it when they write about “segregation” in Israel I have to ask, “Why do you erase the facts? Wouldn’t it be more honest of you to state the reason why there are now separate bus lines? And offer some counter-argument if you can.”

    I and any truthful comment writer are obligated to repeatedly mention Palestinian violence because those are the facts. Martin Luther King, Jr. would have been appalled to hear about bus bombings (the word “bombing” is completely absent from Hurriyeh Ziadah’s article). He was adamant about using non-violent protest. The people involved in this campaign are not peaceful protesters. Peaceful protesters would get off the bus when directed by local authorities. They do not resist arrest.

    Why hasn’t any wealthy individual or group creating a new Palestinian bus company which would offer better service to the areas of the West Bank they feel are not adequately provided for now? Why is it always Israel which must adapt and serve?

    http://www.lonelyplanet.com/israel-and-the-palestinian-territories/transport/getting-around

    • Woody Tanaka
      November 15, 2011, 12:49 pm

      ruthieofisrael,

      The Freedom Riders example is exactly correct here. These racist companies are purposefully discriminating against these people based on their ethnicity. It is nothing but pure racism for to use the excuse that because there was some unfortunate violence years ago, when the Palestinians rightly fought back against their oppressors, in order to discriminate against Palestinians today. The Israelis only have themselves to blame for the killings, due to their oppressive, criminal, and unhumane ways. Nonsense like this racism is only going to endanger more, as they are stirring more backlash. And, when the inevitable happens and the Palestinians rightly fight back, all the blood will be on the hands of the Israelis, who have so, so much blood on them already.

      • DBG
        November 15, 2011, 1:56 pm

        Freedom Riders would be ‘exactly’ correct if there were suicide bombings on buses going on in the 1960s, but there weren’t. It is an entirely different situation.

      • seafoid
        November 15, 2011, 2:32 pm

        It’s only “different’ in the sense that the white racists are Jewish rather than redneck.
        If it really was different there would be no need for the hasbara.

        http://www.promisedlandblog.com/?p=4124

      • Woody Tanaka
        November 15, 2011, 2:32 pm

        “Freedom Riders would be ‘exactly’ correct if there were suicide bombings on buses going on in the 1960s, but there weren’t.”

        There are no suicide bombings on buses now, either.

        “It is an entirely different situation.”

        Yes, in the USA, there were good and decent people among the majority who were willing to stand up to the racists in their midst in order to fight for the full human and political rights and equality of the minority. In Israel, that isnt’ the case. Virtually all of the adult Israeli Jews are complicit in this oppression.

      • kapok
        November 15, 2011, 3:02 pm

        “entirely different situation”

        You go to war with the army you have, not the one you want.
        D. Rumsfeld, freedom fighter, patriot

      • kapok
        November 15, 2011, 3:51 pm

        Perhaps if the Palestinians had a Supreme Court decision to wave in the face of the Hebrew Shutzstaffel they wouldn’t have felt the urge to blow up innocent Jews.

      • proudzionist777
        November 15, 2011, 6:17 pm

        Ethnic Arabs carrying Israeli ID cards can ride these buses sitting wherever the please. Ethnic Arabs from the ‘West Bank’ can also ride these buses with the proper permits and these activists know this full well.

        But can a Jew ride on a bus full of Arab in Ramallah? Not on his life.

      • chocopie
        November 15, 2011, 7:46 pm

        Actually, Mr. Proud, anonymouscomments has posted that Jews really can ride the buses in Ramallah! So don’t feel hurt.

        But I think the schools might still be segregated, and no Jews are allowed. So maybe you could fight for justice by trying to enroll your children in a Palestinian school, and perhaps Norman Rockwell will paint a picture of it for you. You could get together a bunch of people, Jewish and Palestinian, and you could all enroll your children in each others’ schools. You have some Palestinian friends you could talk to about this, right?

        I recommend it. My children are Palestinian and they go to school with lots of Jewish kids. It works really well, no problems that I’ve ever noticed. There are even some Israeli kids, and believe it or not even they behave. Of course, not in Palestine. Over there, Palestinians and Jews are separate. But it works fine everywhere else in the world, so why not in the Holy Land?

      • RobertB
        November 16, 2011, 10:27 am

        proudzionist777 says:

        “Ethnic Arabs carrying Israeli ID cards can ride these buses sitting wherever the please. Ethnic Arabs from the ‘West Bank’ can also ride these buses with the proper permits and these activists know this full well.

        But can a Jew ride on a bus full of Arab in Ramallah? Not on his life.”

        ~~~~~~~~
        Hey pz777 …. Can an Arab, a Palestinian, a Christian, a Moslem live in those 230 plus for Jews only settlements in the occupied territories?

      • annie
        November 16, 2011, 10:58 am

        But can a Jew ride on a bus full of Arab in Ramallah? Not on his life.”

        what planet are you on?

      • DBG
        November 16, 2011, 11:09 am

        I don’t get how your kids are Palestinian? are they Israeli Palestinian? how do they go to school with lots of Jewish kids?

      • chocopie
        November 16, 2011, 9:10 pm

        I know, it’s mind boggling!!! I think it’s funny you can’t imagine how Palestinian kids are going to school with Jewish kids, and even Israeli kids. We don’t live in Israel, that’s a hint. Think hard!!

      • thetumta
        November 15, 2011, 7:56 pm

        ruthieofisrael,
        Did Rabin’s killer ride a bus to the event? Any other sinister groups banned from riding buses like Kahanists? I imagine more than a few people ride buses to commit crimes everywhere, but Israel seems to be alone on this one in the recent century. Perhaps buses are the problem?
        You are correct about one thing though, Dr. King “would have been appalled”
        Hej!

      • Mayhem
        November 15, 2011, 10:21 pm

        @Woody, very convenient to gloss over the facts. You have forgotten about the bombing of the Egged bus in Eilat just a couple of months ago.

      • Shingo
        November 15, 2011, 10:44 pm

        You have forgotten about the bombing of the Egged bus in Eilat just a couple of months ago.

        The one thathad nothing to do with Hamas you mean, but for which Hamas were bombed by Israel knowing that Hamas had no responsiblity for?

      • Chaos4700
        November 15, 2011, 11:28 pm

        Anyone else totally unsurprised that DBG apparently thinks that any Mooooslim who gets on a bus wants to blow it up?

        By the way, Mayhem, Jews set fires to Palestinian farms on the West Bank pretty much on a weekly basis at this point. Are we supposed to assume that all Jews are unsafe to have near farms? The same way you want to impose that all Palestinians are unsafe to have near buses?

      • DBG
        November 16, 2011, 9:51 am

        Chaos, that is why they aren’t allowed on buses w/ out a permit. Ignoring history isn’t going to make it go away. As for Jews and farms, can you be anymore racist? does that mean no Jews can have farms in the US either?

      • Chaos4700
        November 16, 2011, 10:05 am

        Thanks for proving my point. So you think Palestinians need a permit to ride buses (and they should sit at the back too!) but Jews don’t need a permit to walk near farms?

        Never mind, you know, that the buses are operating in Palestine, and that they are built exclusively to allow Jews to colonize and ethnically cleanse the West Bank. Keep telling us how this isn’t apartheid, white boy.

        Speaking of which, who am I being racist against? We’re both white.

      • Woody Tanaka
        November 16, 2011, 10:18 am

        “@Woody, very convenient to gloss over the facts. You have forgotten about the bombing of the Egged bus in Eilat just a couple of months ago.”

        Mayhem,

        First, I specified “suicide” bombings, which the operation against the soldiers on that bus was not.

        Second, even if so, an attack from perpetrators allegedly from Sinai can only justify restrictions on Arabs in the West Bank who were completelly innocent of that operation if you are a racist and see all of them as the same, so that a bad act by one justifies punishment on them all. So it is an abhorrent, inhumane position you are talking.

      • Mayhem
        November 16, 2011, 5:44 pm

        @Woody, I draw your attention to how there could be a bus attack from any quarter at any time and you call me a racist. That’s pretty vicious.

      • Bumblebye
        November 16, 2011, 6:09 pm

        Mayhem
        You referred to a specific incident, you did not suggest there could be an attack from anywhere at anytime. You used an incident carried out by Egyptians to justify oppression of Palestinians, much as Netanyahu used it to excuse another bomb attack on Gaza. The accusation of racism was accurate.

        It’s very unfortunate for Palestinians there are assaults and attacks and bombings on them anytime anywhere by Israelis, be they in uniform or not and vastly more numerous than anything any among them ever carry out.

      • tree
        November 16, 2011, 6:31 pm

        No, calling you a racist would be accurate, not vicious. You mentioned an attack by Egyptians and used that to justify restriction on all Palestinians, simply because they are Arabs. That’s a racist argument. It would be equivalent to someone justifying restrictions on all US Jews because Baruch Goldstein committed mass murder in Israel.

        So, are you for requiring permits for Jewish Israelis to allow them to use buses, since a Jewish Israeli soldier killed four on an Egged bus several years ago?

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4746591.stm

        If not, why not? If its justifiable to ban Palestinians simply because they share an ethnicity with someone who committed a criminal act, then why not the same rules for Jews?

      • Mayhem
        November 16, 2011, 7:32 pm

        As Esther Cohen, from the settlement of Maaleh Levonah said while tapping her finger on the bulletproof window of the armoured bus in which she was travelling: ”When we can ride in an ordinary bus, then they can get on as well.”

      • Chaos4700
        November 16, 2011, 11:28 pm

        I think while Esther Cohen’s cohorts goes out and burns down olive groves on the weekly pogroms that Jews commit in the West Bank, nobody is going to have an ordinary life.

        If Esther wanted to be safe why did she choose to invade Palestine? That’s something she chose — to live in a settlement and, for all we know, to move from Europe to the Middle East in the first place.

    • Kathleen
      November 15, 2011, 2:00 pm

      I am not advocating violence in any way shape or form.
      But if Israeli settlers and the Israeli government would stop the their decades long violent bulldozing of Palestinian homes, olive trees and land and expanding illegal settlements and illegal housing in E Jerusalem that sure would give the Palestinians far far fewer reasons to fight for their homes, land, and freedom though violent means.

      • kapok
        November 15, 2011, 3:05 pm

        Precisely, the Palestinian’s logic is unassailable: You steal from me, and I will fight you.

      • iRevolt
        November 15, 2011, 3:58 pm

        They’ve stolen, pillaged, massacred etc. etc. ad nauseam.
        If anyone would read Fanon they would understand the mind of the oppressed, in why they choose to react against violent measures with violent resistance and even – why they should. It is their right, as subjugated peoples, to resist.

      • thetumta
        November 15, 2011, 8:08 pm

        I believe that International Law specifically allows occupied peoples to use force to resist occupation while simultaneously restraining the occupiers. I know, not applicable in the “Great Exception to everything Civilized”. If you don’t like it, you should probably avoid the occupation business. Hopefully, the forces aligned against the occupation can eventually muster something much more substantial than bombing buses. For instance, cities.

    • Mooser
      November 15, 2011, 2:47 pm

      “Why is it always Israel which must adapt and serve?”

      Yes, our religion clearly states that Jews must be the masters, and the world conform to our wishes! Only an anti-Semite would say different! God has promised us dominion, and any who deny us that are enemies of God His Very Own Self!

    • Mooser
      November 15, 2011, 2:54 pm

      Oh, BTW, Ruthila, just a tip, since you’re new around here; don’t assume that anyone who comments at Mondoweiss is Jewish just because they say they are! Yes, some of were Jews, but have recently been excommunicated by Zionists in other threads. So beware!
      As you appear to be a Zionist, you have that power also, and I beg you to use it with discretion. And to avoid any embarrassing mix-ups, please report all excommunications immediately, so the appropriate measures can be taken, and the Book of Life ammended..

      • Mayhem
        November 16, 2011, 9:33 pm

        Jewish anti-Zionists are disdained, Palestinian reneggers are murdered.

    • Mooser
      November 15, 2011, 3:02 pm

      “Martin Luther King, Jr. would have been appalled to hear about bus bombings He was adamant about using non-violent protest.”

      Wow, I can’t wait to read your book of personal reminiscences, “Me and Martin”, Ruthie! Can I get a signed copy when it comes out? Gosh, what a boost for Zionism that’ll be, when you reveal MLK’s devotion to the Zionist cause, and condemnation of Palestinians!

    • Shingo
      November 15, 2011, 3:05 pm

      Wy does Ruthi omit the fact that the very reason there was a first and second I intifada was to protest the violation of Pslestinian human rights?

      Why does Ruthis omit the fact that the 2nd intifada began with Jon violent demonstrations until the IDF began shooting and murdering unarmed protesters?

      Why does Ruthi omit the fact that Israel’s founders would thought nothing of bombing busses and drive by shootings to achieve their goals?

      Why does Ruthi omit the fact that security is used an excuse for stealing land, ethnic cleansing, segregation, check points, the apartheid wall and ongoing land theft?

      Why does Ruthi omit the the Zionist founders implented Hafrada long before there was any terrorist attacks?

      Why does Rith omit the fact that South Africa’s prime minister who created apartheid observed as early as 1961 that Israel was an apartheid state?

      Why does Ruthi omit that the closure took place before the 2nd intifada?

      Why does Ruthi omit these facts?

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 3:56 pm

        “Why does Ruthi omit the fact that Israel’s founders would thought nothing of bombing busses and drive by shootings to achieve their goals?”

        Gee, am I completely nuts, or do I remember the complete Zionist rejection of nonviolence as a principle or tactic. Gee, maybe I’m hallucinating, but don’t I remember the conclusion that nothing but violence (and, of course political manipulation) would solve the Jew’s problems? And maybe I’m a nut, but don’t I remember them claiming that violence was redemptive for the Jewish people, apart even from whether or not it was successful? You know, I think I do.

        But you gotta understand, Zionists are smart enough to use violence, others, well not so much.

        It’s pretty funny, isn’t it? They will all argue til they are blue in the face (no pun intended) that bigotry isn’t at the bottom of all their Zionist reasoning, and it is so obvious that it is.

      • john h
        November 15, 2011, 5:25 pm

        Because ruthie is high on ziocane that is an IQ problem (see MRW’s interesting posts on that), which automatically filters out inconvenient facts.

        Cool post, Shingo.

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 8:20 pm

        Just a tip, John, it’s spelled “ziocaine”. Zio-cane is a brand of Israeli sugar, which of course, I boycott.

      • dumvitaestspesest
        November 15, 2011, 8:30 pm

        I thought that Zio-cane is a walking stick that leads them, through high and low to the final idea of the Promised Land.

      • john h
        November 15, 2011, 9:07 pm

        Thanks the tip, Mooser, point taken. We never stop learning.

        But then again, Zionism is Israeli sugar anyway, and we all know eating only sugar will soon put an end to you.

        Well dumvita, a walking stick indicates someone who could easily totter over. Good for people walking in the wilderness for their 40 years and never able to enter the Promised Land.

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 9:44 pm

        “I thought that Zio-cane is a walking stick that leads them, through high and low to the final idea of the Promised Land.”

        Those are amazing! If you’re ever thirsty, all you have to do is whack a boulder with it, and it spurts Perrier!

      • DBG
        November 16, 2011, 11:13 am

        Shingo, why do you omit the reason permits are needed?

      • tree
        November 16, 2011, 6:42 pm

        Shingo, why do you omit the reason permits are needed?

        As usual, you’ve got the timeline backwards. The permits predate the second intifada, beginning in 1991, well before the suicide bombing. In fact, it is more accurate to say that the permits and closure system were a factor in the outbreak of the second intifada than to insist it was the other way around.

        http://www.fromoccupiedpalestine.org/node/371

    • kapok
      November 15, 2011, 3:13 pm

      “Why hasn’t any wealthy individual or group creating a new Palestinian bus company… ”
      Off the top of my head: Because Jews will vandalize them?

      • Chaos4700
        November 15, 2011, 11:42 pm

        Or confiscate them. Or arrest the people running the company. Or any of the above.

      • tree
        November 16, 2011, 6:46 pm

        Any Palestinian business or industry must get permission first from Israel. That is one of the ways Israel continues to quash any Palestinian economic advance. If a Palestinian business might negatively effect Israeli business profits, it is denied permits.

    • kamanja
      November 15, 2011, 3:31 pm

      Buses in Israel are not, apart from haredi mehadrin lines buses, segregated. Buses in the West Bank aren’t either – if they were the Palestinians who boarded them today would have been barred entry on the spot. There the segregation is effected by checkpoints and random checks that prevent Palestinians from getting to destinations Israel wishes to keep them from.

  9. JohnAdamTurnbull
    November 15, 2011, 12:32 pm

    This is a good time to recommend Mazin Qumsiyeh’s new book, “Popular Resistance in Palestine”, PlutoPress, 2011, (plutopressbooks.com).

    Mazin has given me an education on the popular politics of early resistance to Zionist/British colonialism. And I’m only on chapter 8.

    • Kathleen
      November 15, 2011, 1:55 pm

      thanks

    • seafoid
      November 15, 2011, 2:35 pm

      I just got “Poetic injustice- writings on resistance and Palestine”
      by Remi Kanazi
      in the post from Electronic Intifada. A lovely surprise.

      It is awesome

  10. richb
    November 15, 2011, 1:37 pm

    This is worse than Jim Crow. Imagine going back to the American Revolution. The British declared due to American “terrorism” that all carriages from Bunker Hill to Boston were British only. Don’t you think that would have made the list of “intolerable acts”? Jim Crow preferred one class of citizen over another. The Israelis prefer foreigners over residents. Desmond Tutu noted that Israeli Apartheid is worse than South Africa. It’s also as we see here worse than Jim Crow.

    While it’s nice to harken back to the American Civil Rights movement we need to acknowledge that the Palestinians have it worse and have a deeper moral flaw to correct than we had/have to. This is not to minimize the ongoing problems here in the U.S. Rather, realizing the depth of American depravity it illustrates even more so the Israeli depravity. The Palestinian activists should be honored in their own right and not just because they stand in the tradition of Martin Luther King and the Freedom Riders.

    • kapok
      November 15, 2011, 3:19 pm

      “American Revolution”

      not to forget: American terrorists cynically hid among the civilian population.

  11. seafoid
    November 15, 2011, 2:34 pm

    Great video. The soldiers are just following orders. Now, where did I hear that before ?
    And Jews enforcing racial segregation. What would Maimonides say ? Or even Martin Buber ?

    For the next bus trip they should have a Palestinian kissing a Jewish woman.
    Total caste mayhem.

  12. Shingo
    November 15, 2011, 2:36 pm

    Expect Witty to tell us how this looks like apartheid, but isn’t.

    • Mooser
      November 15, 2011, 2:42 pm

      “Expect Witty to tell us how this looks like apartheid, but isn’t.”

      He already spoke to that. Apparently the word “apartheid” gets right in amongst him, because he was at pains to point out: “Occupation is not apartheid” Which I found hilarious! No, Israel’s military occupation is not “apartheid”, it’s even worse!

      • Shingo
        November 15, 2011, 3:16 pm

        hilarious! No, Israel’s military occupation is not “apartheid”, it’s even worse!

        The macabre reality is the Zionists are willing to accept that so long as you don’t call it apartheid.

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 7:07 pm

        “The macabre reality is the Zionists are willing to accept that so long as you don’t call it apartheid.”

        I would guess that is because “apartheid” and its horrors in South Africa are still current in the media mind, whereas the last “occupation” (as far as the American audience is concerned) was the Nazis in Europe, not really current.
        Whatever, but it’s obvious that “apartheid” bothers the hell out of them. Oh well, I didn’t need Zionist confirmation, but it’s nice to have it.

        But the fact that Witty thinks he can minimise the apartheid by pointing to the 40 year occupation is priceless. Witty puts the “est” in “dumber”

      • john h
        November 15, 2011, 3:22 pm

        Yeah, someone featured here recently called it “apartheid on steroids”.

  13. Boycott Israel on Campus
    November 15, 2011, 3:08 pm

    A welcome sign that the Palestine Freedom Movement is shedding its meek, back-door mentality. Good!

    Boycott Israel, Boycott Israel, Boycott the hell out of Israel!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbnT1hmdD-w

    Thank you.

  14. Richard Witty
    November 15, 2011, 4:04 pm

    Their statement is problematic again for it lack of specificity.

    It is not going to be effective non-violent civil disobedience, unless it addresses single wrongs, not composite ones.

    Both the Gandhiian and southern use of non-violent civil disobedience defined very specific laws as the target of their boycotts or demonstrations.

    The pass laws, the segregated lunch counters, the requirement to move to the back of the bus.

    The selection of the laws to be disobeyed were the strategic choice, the communication that suggested “we oppose apartheid”, but the actual statement by the riders was about the specific laws addressed.

    This statement is great for its solidarity, but because it is stated vaguely, it will fall on deaf ears.

    They need to focus on specifics.

    “In undertaking this action we do not seek the desegregation of settler buses, as the presence of these colonizers and the infrastructure that serves them is illegal and must be dismantled.”

    This is too confusing and therefore a WEAK assertion.

    “As part of our struggle for freedom, justice and dignity, we demand the ability to be able to travel freely on our own roads, on our own land, including the right to travel to Jerusalem.”

    This is also confusing “our own roads, our own land”.

    A better approach would be simply “we demand the ability to travel freely within Palestine, including to East Jerusalem”.

    The $100,000 question of whether the purpose of the dissent is for a single state or for 67 borders Palestine, is a CRITICAL one.

    To not answer that question, leaves the dissent vague, and therefore inneffective.

    Lets make it effective. It is an artful disciplined concept.

    • anonymouscomments
      November 15, 2011, 5:36 pm

      It’s pretty specific

      End the occupation and remove the illegal settlements.

      Most also want the RoR but of course that has less (no) likelihood and less support.

      Simple Dick, they just want the obvious. Some justice.

    • john h
      November 15, 2011, 6:07 pm

      “They need to focus on specifics.”

      They do, “our own roads, our own land”.

      “This is also confusing: “our own roads, our own land”.

      Only someone like you, a Zionist, would find that confusing.

      “The $100,000 question of whether the purpose of the dissent is for a single state or for 67 borders Palestine, is a CRITICAL one.”

      The purpose is neither, this is only your own irrelevant question.

      • eljay
        November 15, 2011, 8:03 pm

        >> Only someone like you, a Zionist, would find that confusing.

        He doesn’t find it confusing. The problem is that it’s very clear – more clear than most of the babble he writes – and the clarity disturbs him.

        So he needs to muddy the waters a bit.

        He quoted two paragraphs. Notice how he took the time to “improve” the phrasing of the second paragraph, but not of the first one? The second paragraph, being not particularly contentious, was easy to rephrase.

        The first paragraph, however, condemns as illegal the “colonizers and the infrastructure that serves them”. So, rather than attempt to rephrase the paragraph to make its condemnations more clear, he dodged it.

        This way, if someone comes else along with a more clear rephrasing, he can condemn it as “destabilizing”, “dissent” or maybe even “Hamas”.

      • Richard Witty
        November 15, 2011, 8:50 pm

        The purpose of my comments is to suggest how the action could be more effective at communicating to the world, not just the converted world.

        You differ with what you think liberal Jews, Americans, Europeans will consider hearing, comment on that.

        Demonstrate some thought already, rather than knee-jerk and repetition.

      • john h
        November 15, 2011, 9:33 pm

        Richard, that’s exactly what justicewillprevail does below.

        Stop thinking you know better than those in the trenches and get off your knee-jerk repetitive soapbox.

        Just join in saluting him or her for that verbal support and give it a break.

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 9:38 pm

        “The purpose of my comments is to suggest how the action could be more effective at communicating to the world, not just the converted world.”

        Cause if there is one thing you know all about Witty, it’s effective communication. Like that slick little technique of disparagingly referring to those who might criticise Israel “the converted”.
        But of course, anybody who wants to measure your effectiveness as a communicator need only look at your blog. You might even try that Richard.

      • Mooser
        November 15, 2011, 9:41 pm

        “Demonstrate some thought already, rather than knee-jerk and repetition.”

        Yes, sir Witty, Dale Carnegie could take your correspondence course on how to win friends and influence people. Or even, as Zionism does, win fiends from affluent people.

      • Shingo
        November 15, 2011, 9:46 pm

        The purpose of my comments is to suggest how the action could be more effective at communicating to the world, not just the converted world.

        We sincerly apprciate your concern for the Palestinian liberation movement Witty, but seeing as Israel is:

        a) considered a pariah state
        b) regarded as the greatest threat to international security
        c) approcval s in freefall

        it’s safe to say that the majority of the world is already coverted.

      • Richard Witty
        November 16, 2011, 4:23 am

        Justice Will Prevails’ statement, MATCHES my own published statements here and on 972.

        You can read my history of comments to find it.

        Please avoid the knee-jerk, John H.

      • john h
        November 17, 2011, 2:21 pm

        Yes Richard, I’m sure to read in your history of 11,000 comments these justicewillprevail statements or their equivalent:

        ingrained Israeli racism and apartheid…Palestinians keep highlighting these savage injustices…Israel tells the media a pack of convenient fictions

    • Mooser
      November 15, 2011, 6:57 pm

      “but the actual statement by the riders was about the specific laws addressed.”

      My God, you are a fool Witty, and so ready to slander the Civil Rights movement,
      No matter which specific instance of discrimination was aimed at by an action, the intent was to eventually make race discrimination illegal in the US. An over-arching and frankly, revolutionary intent. Or did you think the civil rights movement should have de-segregated businesses and public facilities one-by-one by appealing to the good nature of the owners? Actually, you do, but let it go. Even that isn’t as bad as the consistent bigotry you show towards Palestinians and all “Arabs”. Whatever they do is defecient, if it isn’t evil, in your mind, and you don’t have the slightest reluctance to shout it to the world, in your hideous presumption it will be shared. If you have been trying to hide it, got news for you, you fail, badly.
      As usual, you are counting on shared assumptions of bigotry, the bigotry you hope will convince readers that any action by Palestinians is violent, unprincipled, unworthy, undisciplined…something bad.
      If it wasn’t bad, they wouldn’t be doing it, about sums up your attitude towards any Palestinian action.
      Bigotry, condescension and presumption are the unholy trio which informs your comments. This has been consistent over ten thousand comments.

      • James North
        November 15, 2011, 10:45 pm

        Richard Witty said, ‘Ouch, Mooser. But you made one mistake; I’ve now made over 11,000 comments — all of them as diplomatic and sensitive as the ones you highlight here.’

    • thetumta
      November 15, 2011, 8:12 pm

      On ignore. Oops, I guess not!

  15. lobewyper
    November 15, 2011, 6:16 pm

    “It is an artful disciplined concept.” In this sentence, Richard has summarized the whole I-P conflict. Please listen to him and learn!

  16. lobewyper
    November 15, 2011, 6:34 pm

    P.S.: BRING BACK THE “EDIT” FEATURE!!!

    • LeaNder
      November 15, 2011, 7:20 pm

      Is it gone? No, it only has moved from left to right bottom.

      • lobewyper
        November 16, 2011, 7:17 am

        Thanks, LeaNder!

  17. justicewillprevail
    November 15, 2011, 8:02 pm

    This is inspirational and a wonderful example of action which raises all the uncomfortable questions about ingrained Israeli racism and apartheid, which they would rather ignore and avoid. As long as Palestinians keep highlighting these savage injustices, keep them in the news, Israel is on a loser. The message that Israel tells the media a pack of convenient fictions is a very powerful one to get across, and one that is increasingly mainstream. Keep it up, the truth is powerful.

  18. seafoid
    November 16, 2011, 8:42 am

    2 threads alongside. 6 palestinian freedom riders. 5 Christian Zionist congressmen

  19. jonah
    November 16, 2011, 1:07 pm

    The blonde woman on the bus shouts to the Israelis soldiers – it’s clearly audible – “We are Palestinian freedom riders!”. Is she really Palestinian? No, of course not, she is a US citizen traveling through Israel. These actions directed against the “occupation” by Israel, a country labeled in many different negative ways (I don’t need to parrot the anti-Zionist rhetoric), follow each other for quite some time now and is expected to continue in the future, always with the involvement of human rights activists from Europe and America. So far so good.
    However, I wonder when European and American “freedoms riders” will finally make a “ride” to Damaskus too. Is this apparent neglect maybe due to the fact that the Syrian people are less oppressed than Palestinians? Or maybe because they are more oppressed? Did the Western “freedom riders” never think about this simple question? What determines the fact that Jerusalem seems to inspire much greater idea of ​​freedom for these activists from the West? Why does it seem far better to organize a “Freedom ride” or a “Freedom flotilla” headed to Jerusalem than one to Damaskus?

    Take a short moment to think about it.

    • mudder
      November 16, 2011, 2:12 pm

      Huwaida Arraf holds dual U.S. and Palestinian citizenships, according to the McClatchy-Tribune News Service.

    • Chaos4700
      November 16, 2011, 11:30 pm

      GASP! You mean people of European descent can’t be native to the Middle East?! And where were your grandparents born again, jonah…?

      You might want to put a bandage on that bullet hole in your foot first, though. I’d put the gun down too.

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