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Responses to Toulouse murders from Palestinian orgs and Jerusalem mourners

Silent march in Paris Monday
Note Israeli flags at silent march in Paris Monday honoring Toulouse victims, from AFP
The murders of four Jews outside a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, Monday are having reverberations among Israelis and Palestinians. Below are a condemnation of the killings by Palestinian groups and, at the victims’ funeral, statements of support for Zionism and expressions of Jewish insecurity in Europe. 
 

Agence France Presse PARIS:

Palestinian missions in France on Wednesday condemned the “hateful” attack two days earlier on a Jewish school in the southwestern city of Toulouse in which three children and a rabbi were killed. Palestinian diplomatic missions “condemn in the strongest possible terms the hateful attack carried out in Toulouse,” a statement said.

“All racist crimes are attacks on humanity in general and on the republic in particular.”

“It appears the weapon used in that massacre is the same as that used previously against three French soldiers of different origins, which leads one to suppose the killer is driven by a multifaceted racist hatred,” it said.

The statement was issued in the name of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Palestinian Authority, and Palestine’s missions to France and UNESCO, which is headquartered in Paris.

In Jerusalem, the Guardian’s Phoebe Greenwood was at the funeral for the four Toulouse victims (Rabbi Jonathan Sandler, his two sons, Gabriel and Arieh, and seven-year-old Miriam Monsonego). There is a tape of her report at the Guardian site:

There was a long list of very emotional speakers from both France and Israel and all have spoken with deep emotion about the shootings in Toulouse. The chief rabbi broke down in tears as he vowed that there would be vengeance for their deaths; that God will avenge their deaths. And as he wept he said our enemies shouldn’t think we’re weak because we cried… During his speech there were wails from the crowd.”

One mourner told Greenwood that the murders would make many Jews worried about security in Europe consider moving to Israel. An Israeli woman said: “Many of the people who are thinking about moving to Israel now certainly will.”

Greenwood continued, The message from the French community in Israel to the Jews of Toulouse is, “Come to Israel, your place is here now, this attack is evidence that you think you’re safer in Europe, in fact you’re safer here among your own people in the Jewish state, where you’ll be protected.”

And in a French television report, this is a quote from the president of the Consistoire Central Israélite de France (the central organization for French Jewry), Joël Mergui, speaking to BFMTV from the funeral in Jerusalem today:

Of the presumed killer, Mergui says he is not a man, but “a barbarian, a savage, an animal”

“A new page has turned in the history of our people… Here in Jerusalem I have heard the mother of two children and the wife of a rabbi crying, crying whilst saying that she had left Jerusalem believing that this could only happen in Jerusalem – attacks that target women and children savagely, and in the end this attack was perpetrated in Toulouse, in France, on our soil.”

Also, there is a piece in the Forward by Robert Zaretsky, a professor at the University of Houston, blaming xenophobic statements by French leaders, including Sarkozy, for the climate in which the killer or killers functioned:

we must know what these three related acts of homicidal fury aimed at French Jews and Muslims make clear: They are two communities that, vulnerable yesterday and today to stigmatization and discrimination, have more in common than they sometimes believe. As last year’s horrific massacre in Norway reminds us, the West has no need to seek monsters abroad: We have, all too unhappily, the capacity to create our own.

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“Come to Israel, your place is here now, this attack is evidence that you think you’re safer in Europe, in fact you’re safer here among your own people in the Jewish state, where you’ll be protected.”

Remember if you don’t speak Hebrew you won’t get a very nice job !

Pay your taxes to the settlers !

Move to Beit Shemesh and have the locals spit at your daughters. !

Bring your teenagers and have them indoctrinated into the IDF . They probably don’t hate Muslims now but they sure will once they’re done !

Your family may win the ultimate prize by providing a fallen soldier for Mount Herzl cemetery !

The idea that sociopaths like Liberman, Zippy , the Hebron settlers and Bibi would be “my people” would be too much for me. We never even torture farm animals in our family.

I would like to get a personal opinion from the authors. What do you personally think about what had happened there?
Brejvik murders got some many opinion pieces here- I’d be happy to get at least one on the murders of not just Jews and Muslims, but Jewish children shot in the head in pointblank range and Muslim French soldiers executed by their fellow Muslim countryman.
Please give it try at least.

@dimadok

Let’s compare your response here in this discussion to your response to the Norway serial murders:

Thank you Richard. Generalization and making overreaching assumptions can go both ways. As another example of it, Brejvik makes Putin as the example of good strong leader, with strong stands on Chechen terror and vakhabites in Russia. Does it mean that Russians are supporting his murders? As a reminder to readers here, Russia and Norway have urgent issues between the countries, resulting in diplomatic confrontations and open conflicts. Maybe it was Russian SVR who conspired with Brejvik to stur the Norway out of its stands. Just think of that for a moment. It is equally wrong as the connection with Israel.

https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2011/07/regarding-the-tragedy-we-are-now-living-through.html#comment-342427

I apologize for the question, but Alex how about retracting of some BS you wrote about Brejvik link to mondoweiss.net
?
Since the guy is schizophrenic and cannot stand the trial-does it mean you owe some erratum posted?

https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2011/12/gop-presidential-candidates-offer-red-meat-on-israel-at-republican-jewish-coalition-forum.html#comment-399932

Shall we start second round of accusations, combined with wild speculations or just call it a day? Norway murderer was xenophobic and it happens now that now Europe does not have many Jews to fill the gap, and his anger turned towards Muslim population. How is that connected to the Zionism, Alex? I suggest that should he did not find any Muslims, he would invent other enemies of his beloved country? His manifest uses whole paragraphs from Unabomber, fitting the profile of lonesome anti-social individual with obsessive ideas of idealized world. Same people are showing up in Israel or here, “shooting” in all directions, to feel personal satisfaction of good deeds. Good night, Alex.

https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2011/07/breivik-manifesto-outlines-virulent-right-wing-ideology-that-fueled-norway-massacre.html#comment-342238

Israel condemns Oslo terror attacks –
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/About+the+Ministry/MFA+Spokesman/2011/Israel_condemns_Oslo_terror_attacks_23-Jul-2011.htm

Israel expresses its shock at the revolting terror attacks in Oslo, which have taken the lives of innocent victims. Nothing at all can justify such wanton violence, and we condemn this brutal action with the utmost gravity.

We stand in solidarity with the people and government of Norway in this hour of trial, and trust Norwegian authorities to bring to justice those responsible for this heinous crime.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. We send our condolences to the bereaved families, and our wishes for prompt recovery to the injured. We remain at the Government of Norway’s disposal for any assistance it may require.

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President Shimon Peres sent a special condolence letter to the King of Norway and the Norwegian people.

In the letter the President wrote: “The people of Israel are shocked and share the grief of the people of Norway on the despicable murder of innocent civilians and innocent youth. Our hearts are with the bereaved families who have lost that which is most dear to them. We pray for the speedy recovery of the wounded.”

Who’s the dolt now?

https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2011/07/the-norway-massacre-and-the-nexus-of-islamophobia-and-right-wing-zionism.html#comment-342066

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SOOOOO! To conclude:

You were quick to absolve the Norway serial killer’s political motivations of their connection to Zionism when he was diagnosed as being schizo.

It had nothing to do w/ his other political beliefs. It was simply his support for Israel and Zionism that compelled you so urgently to absolve him.

Then you brought up Russia or something. This was an attempt to muddy the water. But all it means is that the guy admired Putin AND Zionism/Israel among other things. Big deal!

The third quote of yours talks about how the Norway killer was simply anti-social and xenophobic. Yet, he singled out Muslims. You actually dismiss the profundity of his Islamophobia by proposing that he hates Jews more but there simply weren’t enough of them around for him to be anti-Jewish immigration!

Here again, you dismiss his political motivations even though the guy took a lot of time and care to spell it all out.

And finally, you make sure we know that Israeli politicians condemned the Norway killings.

Now, I want you to acknowledge that Palestinian politicians have condemned these killings in France.

Oh and to put the icing on the cake, let’s resort to the typical Zionist meme of counting corpses.

In Norway, the serial murderer killed 77 people and injured 151! That’s far more than what happened in France! So stop whining and singling out France!

there’s a really good post i highly recommend

http://frustratedarab.com/2012/03/20/afghanistan-selective-outrage-and-sob-stories/

Will the general public demand religious leaders, organization and even adherents of this religious bloc be forced to condemn the actions of the accused soldiers(s)? Will entire religious blocs associated with said soldier(s) who murdered Afghan civilians be profiled? dubbed “extremists”? Will the mainstream media require that all adherents of this faith “apologize” as is done with Muslims?

Plainly speaking, when a person of Middle Eastern/North African (et al.) descent and Muslim background is accused of any volume of crime, be it from the minute to the massive, their faith is spot-lighted and dragged through the mud without exception. When, for example, Christians kill they just-so-happen to be Christian while when Muslims kill their faith had all to do with their alleged crime. Just as well, a simple internet inquiry bolsters this theory, that when a criminal or alleged criminal happens to be Muslim their faith is the primary focus while when a non-Muslim kills their faith is rarely made public.