Maariv bombshell Photo: Didi Remez
After last week’s fearfest over Iran fell flat, the danger duo of Netanyahu/Barak are up to their tricks again, revving up the pressure tactics for an Iran attack.
Didi Remez translates the latest bombshell from Israel via the Hebrew press. If Obama doesn’t get on board by Yom Kippur there will be hell to pay during the last month of his campaign for re election. According to Maariv journalist Eli Bardenstein:
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak expect US President Barack Obama to say clearly that the United States will take military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program either at the UN General Assembly on September 25, which is the eve of Yom Kippur, or on some other public platform by that date.
Officials in the Prime Minister’s Bureau refused to respond [formally] to questions on this issue, but sources in Jerusalem said that officials in the Foreign Ministry and the Prime Minister’s Bureau have already begun to make preliminary efforts to coordinate this issue with the White House and with US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, who has very close ties to Obama.
The UN General Assembly meeting will begin on the eve of Yom Kippur. One of the first speakers will be President Obama. Despite the fact that that speech is still a month and a half away, officials in Jerusalem have already begun to take action. One high-ranking source in Jerusalem said that if Obama does make the statements that Israel expects of him to make, that will serve as a decisive contribution to Israel’s sense of confidence that the United States will indeed take military action to stop Iran, and it will also dispel fears that Israel might attack before the American presidential elections on November 6.
For Israel, time is pressing for a statement of that sort because of the tight timetable for an attack on Iran, which some people have assessed is likely to be carried out in the next two and a half months. That said, officials in the Prime Minister’s Bureau and the Defense Minister’s Bureau are aware of the fact that if Obama does decide to make a statement of that kind, he will make it only in closer proximity to the election, and not at present.
Israel has been pressing for an Iran attack for a few decades. We shouldn’t be surprised the new deadline is November 6th. Is Obama going to cave to Netanyahu’s scheduling?
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Obama’s already admitted to being crazy, unprincipled, and a pushover (or near-pushover) on this I/I thang. Let’s encourage him to hold out. Send him a message a day — NO WAR WITH IRAN.
Is there a pro-Obama PAC which is also anti-war-with-Iran?
i don’t know pabelmont. good question tho.
pabelmont,
Good idea: via the whitehouse.gov website. And everyone keep it short.
“Do not bomb Iran, or I will withhold my vote.”
Great idea! Make it go viral.
how in the devil do you get all this crazy stuff?
type jewish nutball on google and this stuff shows up?
seen most of this stuff and these rant throwers before, they all must be related
link to youtube.com
i follow informed people on twitter. @DidiRemez is essential reading. i have been following him since i first discovered link to coteret.com
the hebrew press is important if you want to understand what people are discussing in israel. remez has over 115,000 followers and is well respected. the information tho, i agree it is wacky. but that’s not the fault of the messenger.
guess that must be important…but for me riding the 30 Stockton through Chinatown to Union Square I can see plenty, plus you get some damn fine hot and sour soup…”You can observe alot just by looking” Y Berra
Nathan Kahn made a film about his Dad and in it he visits one of Lou Kahn’s cousins somewhere in some kind of shabby suburb in the East…the guys is a real Jew and wears one of those hats and does not like to be around folks not of the tribe or be filmed with just plain folks…But Nathan is sort of Jewish (Protestant actually) and his Dad, Lou Kahn could have given a shit….he relents to talk to his relative…
link to youtube.com
Very sad…but as an American he is entitled to live in a closet if this guy so desired and he obviously did…
Richard Feynman on the Jew and most probably the reason Oppenheimer chose to quote the Bhagavad Gita
Richard Feynman on why he refused to be called a Jew
“The error of pro-Semitism is not that the Jewish people or Jewish heritage is not really good, but rather the error is that intelligence, good will, and kindness is not, thank God, a monopoly of the Jewish people but a universal characteristic of mankind in general.
Therefore you see at thirteen I was not only converted to other religious views but I also stopped believing that the Jewish people are in any way “the chosen people.” This is my other reason for requesting not to be included in your work.
I am expecting that you will respect my wishes.”
The Jewish guys you folks quote are both extremely humorous and sad at the same time…
Blackmailing our president to act in a way that is counter to the well-being of Americans! To add to that, our tax dollars go to support people like him to do so, as all that aid comes back into the coffers of our congress-critters, who then allocate more tax dollars to Israel. No mafia in history has been more successful!
They get to demand from a state that only provides for them? Go figure. Even if they provided us with some sort of capitol, military power or other significant development, at that point they could make some requests toward the US state department, not undermine the president with their fanatical demands.
With friends like these, the Palestinians look like a solid partner for peace. Someone pull the knife out of Obama’s back.
I suppose hasbarots will say we gave you Einstein and Jonas Salk and your complaining about defending us?
“They get to demand from a state that only provides for them? Go figure.”
It is what they are demanding that is so….well, evil. They’re, in a nutshell, demanding the death of American and Iranian men, women and children so they can feel secure on stolen land.
They demand all these wars for a cause that is without a doubt, destined for the junk-heap of history.
Oh the fears, the evasions, the missed opportunities, the cruelty and self-delusions.
Well if I were Obama I would tie their demand for a statement on Iran to a settlement freeze, then I’d still say, I’ve given the matter a lot of thought and I cannot risk American lives supporting this operation.
link to independent.co.uk
‘Iran appeals for foreign aid after earthquake’
Will the US send any aid or keep piling on the punishment?
UK headlines..
link to independent.co.uk
‘Iran tensions push up oil price’
Wonder if speculators are giving Netanyahu a commison on affecting oil prices.
‘Sudden spike in price of crude oil raises cost for manufactures’
Well it raised even the cost of pet food by 30% this year so human food cost probably went even higher.
“Fed Chief: US recovery close to faltering”
Ah yes Israel, neos, elites, keep right on f****** the little world.
“They who live only to benefit themselves confer on the world a benefit when they die”~~~Tertullian
BTATTG…and be done with them.
There was an invitation-only gaming session at the 2012 Herzliya conference that considered how Israel should handle it’s oil should the price reach $250 a barrel – sell or hoard? (The price is currently about $110 a barrel). Some ex-BP big shots were involved. So yes I would imagine a load of those present are in on deals aimed at benefiting from the planned oil price spike. I suspect Israel would be very keen to have pliable client regimes in the coastal areas of Lebanon and Syria. That would allow a pipeline route from Israel to Turkey, enabling Israel to sell its oil to the EU at a suitable price.
@ Egbert
At any rate, the US is committed by explicit MOU and by congressional litmus test (patented by AIPAC) to guaranteeing Israel’s oil needs, even at the expense of its own citizens needs (it goes without saying, but the MOU virtually says so).
If that is so then Israel is living in fantasy-land. With what is going on in the Middle East right now, they might get the client states (or more accurately the US might get them) but that would not make any proposed pipelines safe. Just like Egyptians in the Sinai have bombed the natural gas pipelines to Israel more than a dozen times, a similar fate would await any Israeli pipeline in Lebanon, that is even if one could be safely built.
Commit himself on a war against Iran? Shouldn’t be a problem for President Obama, but just in case he’s at a loss for words, how about this? “My fellow Americans*, please recall that my oath was to uphold the Constitution of the u.s. of a., with Israel not even mentioned. So let me make this clear, if the Israeli government wants to make war on Iran, that’s their business, but it shouldn’t expect to receive any assistance from my government. What’s more, should Israel attack Iran strict neutrality of U.S. citizens not only will be enforced, violaters will be prosecuted vigerously. After all I was elected not to start new wars but to bring the troops home.
*fellow Americans worked for FDR
**perhaps because it didn’t exist then.
We’re probably seeing Israel Lobby influence peaking right before our very eyes. If there is an attack they’re diminished through blame, and if there isn’t an attack they’re diminished through ineffectiveness. Either way diminished, and to whatever degree that plays out, ignorable.
Here’s some more blah,blah from Barak.
Obama should just sit, and sit and sit and reassure and reassure Israel and talk and talk on Iran till hell freezes over.
Give them the same old stall-a-roo they’ve dished out for 65 years.
link to blogs.telegraph.co.uk
Israel hints that it has already decided to bomb Iran
By David BlairWorldLast updated: August 13th, 2012
Israeli F-16. The decision to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities may already have been taken
An extraordinary interview with an anonymous subject has appeared in Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper. In over 3,200 words of prose, the man answering the questions is referred to only as “the decision-maker”. But the piece is filled with hints about his identity, to the point where anyone with the slightest grasp of Israeli politics can work out that the anonymous interviewee must be Ehud Barak, the defence minister. (To take one example, the “decision-maker” is interviewed in a room that boasts a “black grand piano”. Barak is a concert pianist – there cannot be many others in the Israeli hierarchy).
The significance of the interview is that the “decision-maker” says quite plainly that Israel cannot rely on America to take whatever action is necessary to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear weapons capability. And Israel’s own window for launching a preventive strike is closing more rapidly than Washington’s.
“The gap between the two countries derives from the fact that the US and Israel have different abilities,” says the interviewee.
“As the Iranians continue to fortify their nuclear sites and disperse them and accumulate uranium, the moment is approaching when Israel will not be able to do anything. For the Americans, the Iranians are not yet approaching the immunity zone − because the Americans have much larger bombers and bombs, and the ability to repeat the operation a whole number of times. But for us, Iran could soon enter the immunity zone.”
Then the “decision-maker” (or Barak) reaches the crux of his argument: “And when that happens, it means putting a matter that is vital to our survival in the hands of the United States. Israel cannot allow this to happen. It cannot place the responsibility for its security and future in the hands of even its best and most loyal friend.”
Israel was founded to protect the Jewish people from existential threats. In the final analysis, the country’s leadership will trust no one else with this supreme responsibility. But Israel faces the danger of allowing the power to prevent Iran from crossing the nuclear threshold to slip from its hands, leaving the country with no option but to trust the US. And the interviewee is adamant that Israel would prefer to go to war rather than allow that moment to arrive.
In fact, he gives the impression that the crucial decision has already been taken: unless American goes to war within Israel’s own time-frame for taking action (he lets slip that another year cannot be allowed to go by), then Israel will do the job itself.
“If Israel forgoes the chance to act and it becomes clear that it no longer has the power to act, the likelihood of an American action will decrease. So we cannot wait a year to find out who was right: the one who said that the likelihood of an American action is high or the one who said the likelihood of an American action is low. We can’t wait to find out one morning that we relied on the Americans but were fooled because the Americans didn’t act in the end. We need to look at the reality right now with total clarity. Even a cruel reality must be looked at with total clarity. Israel is strong and Israel is responsible, and Israel will do what it has to do.”
The logic of these words is that Israel will act soon. Given the imminence of the US election, that probably means before November”
“…Israel was founded to protect the Jewish people from existential threats…
I cannot get over this redefinition of the word ‘existential.’ To me, that sounds like the claim is that Israel was founded as a refutation of Sartre.
@ American
I think Bibi and Barak have a different message for Obama to parrot, and they want him to go to deliver it to the Israeli public; it’s in this recent article, which discusses the pros and cons of an attack on Iran before the US elections–as per the two sides’ POVs within Israel itself: link to peacenow.org
Note that joint US-Israeli war games are scheduled not long before the US elections.
american, check out the first link in the article, ‘last weeks fearfest’ link to mondoweiss.net
that’s the same article noam @927 is writing about. and yes it is barak.
Read this over at Huffpo
Csanad Szegedi, Hungary Far-Right Leader, Discovers Jewish Roots
As a rising star in Hungary’s far-right Jobbik Party, Csanad Szegedi was notorious for his incendiary comments on Jews: He accused them of “buying up” the country, railed about the “Jewishness” of the political elite and claimed Jews were desecrating national symbols.
Then came a revelation that knocked him off his perch as ultra-nationalist standard-bearer: Szegedi himself is a Jew.
my question is…was anything that he accused them of …not true..
they seem to just get …EVERYTHING….and then some
link to huffingtonpost.com
my question is…was anything that he accused them of …not true..
they seem to just get …EVERYTHING….and then some
them? they? pllllease. can we be more discerning with the generalizations?
does them & they include a jew’s five year old grandchild?
RE: “Israel has been pressing for an Iran attack for a few decades. We shouldn’t be surprised the new deadline is November 6th. Is Obama going to cave to Netanyahu’s scheduling?” ~ Annie Robbins
MY COMMENT: I for one am hedging my bets. No more battered
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“Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak expect US President Barack Obama to say clearly that the United States will take military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program either at the UN General Assembly on September 25, which is the eve of Yom Kippur, or on some other public platform by that date…”
And there we have it. We appear to have 72 hours to withdraw from Poland, so to speak. No more Mr Nice Guy. Israel has run out of patience with us.
If our precious president would have an once of courage, he would go front of TV cameras and state very clearly that the USA have no intention and interest of starting another war and will prevent such action by others by shooting down all planes heading toward Iran.
He may lose thousands of extremist votes, but millions will decide to vote for him again!! I will be one of those millions.
The way to deal with a blackmailer is to go public that you are not going to submit to their demands. That requires a degree of courage which Obama clearly lacks.
Bottom line:
Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, the U.S., Russia, France, Britain, China, Japan, India, Canada, Australia, the E.U., etc., DO NOT WANT A WAR AGAINST IRAN. Apart from the horrors that would engulf the entire region, an attack on Iran would also have a devastating effect on an already deteriorating international economy. Continuous and secure shipments of oil through the Straits of Hormuz are absolutely essential. Also, the dispute between Israel and the US over this matter will prove to be a pivotal event in what is an inevitable end to their “special relationship.” Israel is arguably America’s number one and ever-increasing geopolitical liability.