Anointed by Kristol, rising Middle East expert Rand Paul lectures Kerry

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Rand Paul’s taking a leading role as Israel’s protector lately. The other day the Republican Senator from Kentucky went head to head with John Kerry during Kerry’s Secretary of State confirmation hearing, grilling him and lecturing him about the Middle East (3:34):

Paul: You’ve heard President Morsi’s comments about Zionists and Israelis being blood suckers and descendants of apes and pigs, do you think it’s wise to send them F16′s and Abrams tanks?

Kerry: I think those comments are reprehensible and those comments ah set back the possibilities of working towards mutual, issues of mutual interest. They are degrading comments…

Paul: They only understand… strength, if we keep sending them weapons they’re not gonna change their behavior…

Kerry: Now, let me finish. President Morsi, President Morsi has issued two statements to clarify those comments, and we had a group of senators who met with them just the other day who spent a good part of their conversation and relatively heated discussion about it. But not everything, this is always the complication in dealings in the international sector. Not everything lends itself to a simple clarity;       black-white/this-that every time. We have critical interest with Egypt, critical interest with Egypt. Egypt has thus far supported and lived by the peace agreement with Israel, and and…has taken steps to begin to deal with the problem of security in the Sinai. Those are vital to us and our national interest and to the security of Israel…

Paul: But this has been our problem with our foreign policy for decades Republican and Democrat; we funded bin Laden; we funded the Mujahideen; we were in favor of radical Jihad because they were the enemy of our enemy. We’ve done this so often, I see these weapons coming back to threaten Israel. I see support for Syrian rebels coming back to threaten Israel as well….

Kerry: As you know Senator in any of the arms sales the United States has ever engaged in in that part of the world, there is always a measure, a test which is applied with respect to a qualitative difference in any of those weapons with respect to Israel’s defense and security. And we do not sell weapons and will not sell weapons that might upset that qualitative balance  –

Paul: Yes we sell 20 F16′s to Egypt we gotta give 25 to Israel. Sounds like we’re fueling an arms race. Why don’t we just not give any weapons to Israel’s enemies, that would certainly save us a lot of money and might make it safer for Israel. One final quest…

Kerry: Or better yet until we are at that moment where that might be achievable maybe it would be better to try to make peace.

Paul can claim not to be a newbie because he went to Israel earlier this month, raising speculation that he plans to run for president, and took briefings with neoconservatives, including Romney adviser Dan Senor:

Rand Paul has been holding a series of meetings with neo-conservative pro-Israel foreign policy hands as the libertarian prepares to take a seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

After Paul returned from Israel, he proved to be very useful. When Jeffrey Goldberg published an article in the run-up to the Israeli election saying that Obama had “said privately and repeatedly, ‘Israel doesn’t know what its own best interests are,’” the Israeli press had a field day. And Paul, fresh off the plane from Tel Aviv, was perfectly placed to provide the pushback. He delivered in spades. He held a conference call with a gaggle of journos chastising Obama and spewing a number of thread worn neocon talking points. Naturally neoconservative Jennifer Rubin was in on the call:
 

That’s an arrogant and presumptuous point of view and doesn’t further progress on anything,” the senator said, and he returned to that view throughout the call as he discussed the location of Israel’s capital and Israeli settlements. Paul decried U.S. politicians who display “this flippant and arrogant” attitude about internal Israeli affairs, saying that “no one can really know as much as people in the region” about such matters. “It is not up to the U.S. to dictate” to mayors and West Bank officials where housing goes, Paul added.

In that call, discussing “the location of Israel’s capital” and praising “an independent, strong Israel that is not a dependent state, not a client state,” Paul wasn’t advocating a reduction of aid anytime soon– a far cry from just a year ago when he advocated halting all financial aid to Israel.

How did a libertarian southern senator with Tea Party bona fides get to be a neoconservative wonderboy? Not to mention that Rand Paul is the son of Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who was the one presidential candidate last year to say that we could contain Iran?  

Going back in time to 2010, Rand Paul was running for Senate, and the media perked up when neoconservative godfather Bill Kristol said nice things about him on Fox News, picked up by Crooks and Liars in a sassy slapdown discussing Paul’s civil rights comments: Bill Kristol: Rand Paul Sophisticated, Complicated, Attractive, Plainspoken, Honest and Thoughtful:

(Video:1:56)

“I’m not a huge fan of Rand Paul, but if you watch the clips with him, there is something attractive about him.”

The flirtation continued into Iowa in 2012, and the internet fluttered when Kristol approached Paul near the Des Moines Embassy Suites breakfast buffet. CNN Anchor Jake Trapper tweeted the sighting. Italian journalist Christian Rocca wrote a fun gossipy snippet about it on his blog. “You can’t make it up” declared Buzzfeed: The libertarian’s first words to the neoconservative icon were about Israel’s secret service, Rand Paul Asked Bill Kristol About The Mossad. Even Kristol’s staff referenced it as “the grand breakfast buffet meet-up“in coy coverage at The Weekly Standard.

So we asked the boss, safely back in his room, What’s up?

The boss’s response: “Needless to say, what happens at the Des Moines Embassy Suites breakfast buffet stays at the Des Moines Embassy Suites breakfast buffet…..”

A lot transpired between January’s buffet and November’s post election coverage, when Kristol and Fox panelists declared Ron (and Rand) Paul supporters are the future of the GOP. Next, Politico‘s “Welcome to the Rand Paul evolution” began talking about Paul as a future presidential candidate: “tea party conservatism … could woo younger voters.” 

Speaking of evolution, what are Rand Paul’s views on Israel now? A month after the presidential election, Jennifer Rubin assured us that Paul just loves the Jewish state:

Rand Paul has received some criticism for his own regarding Israel. This year he hung up a vote in the Senate on Iran sanctions. That, along with his previously emphatic statements against foreign aid, have given the appearance of being anti-Israel. Others, unfairly in our view, attribute his father’s views to him.

I asked him if there is one perception about him that is particularly wrong. Without skipping a beat, he replied, “That I am unfriendly to Israel.” He is going to Israel for the first time. He told me, “We’ll have some meetings with political leaders. I want to hear from all sides.”

“We’ve talked about [such a trip] for a long time,“ he said, explaining that with three children (all boys, ages 13-19) and trips back to Kentucky it has been hard to schedule. He said he is looking forward to taking his family and “seeing our Judeo-Christian roots” He added, “I’ve always been fascinated with the 1st century,” citing reading he has done on the separation of Christianity from Judaism.

“Israel shouldn’t be dictated to by the U.S. They are a sovereign country,” Paul said — whether the issue is the peace process or Gaza. No one should be telling Israel how to respond, he added, “unless you have missiles coming down on your head. They are sovereign.”

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I spoke Tuesday night with David Brog, executive director of the country’s largest pro-Zionist group, Christians United for Israel (CUFI), which has been outspoken in criticizing Paul’s advocacy for cuts in crucial military aid to Israel. Brog explained CUFI’s past concerns: “Paul has thus far seemed oblivious to the reality that Israel’s military is fighting our battles for us and keeping us from having to send our own soldiers to do the job.” Nevertheless, Brog told me that “we’re certainly encouraged to learn that Senator Paul is traveling to Israel…”…Brog makes the case that support for Israel actually meshes with Paul’s desire to conduct foreign policy with limited revenues. By providing military aid to Israel, Brog argued, we enable an ally to fight our common enemies. He said, “I hope Sen. Paul sees that his economic policy and foreign policy and political interests need not conflict with support for Israel. In fact, it will earn him a great following.”

Yes, it’s a little early to be humping for a 2016 presidential run, but Paul’s off to a running start and now he’s got Kristol’s blessing. Paul knows that neoconservatives deliver money and deliver establishment support. Bill Kristol is not a godfather for nothing. He bragged about purging the Republican Party of “old fashioned Arabists” like George H.W. Bush. As Kristol and Dan Senor have both explained, cultivating possible presidential candidates is one of the Israel lobby’s core activities. From a report on the 2008 AIPAC policy conference: 

Bill Kristol said that Hart Hasten, a Holocaust survivor and successful Indianapolis businessman, had been crucial to shaping Dan Quayle’s view of Israel, having “spent a lot of time” with Quayle when he was still a congressman. (Quayle’s office later told me [reporter Phil Weiss], “The statement Bill Kristol made was not exactly accurate. Mr. Quayle said his broad knowledge of Israel came from many people and sources, not specifically from Mr. Hasten.”) Dan Senor, an analyst on CNN and former AIPAC intern, boasted that AIPAC won over Spencer Abraham when he was the head of the state Republican Party, years before he became a Michigan senator. The party was $500,000 in debt, and an AIPAC leader helped him pay that off. And of course, the famous story was told of George W. Bush going up in Ariel Sharon’s helicopter in 1998, two years before he ran for president, and saying of Israel’s ten-mile waist, “We have driveways in Texas longer than that.”

Of all the 2016 GOP hopefuls smoozing up Adelson last summer, it’s Rand Paul who flew to Israel in the run up to their election, perfectly placed on his return to deliver a reverberating slap straight into Jen Rubin’s keyboard, timed with Goldberg’s shot across the bow. So long as the neocons have their eyes on Paul, so should we.

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  1. Blownaway
    January 27, 2013, 12:33 pm

    It is by now a familiar pattern. Bill kristol whispers in fringe candidates ear (look what happened to your Dad). Candidate hypnotized by the thought of becoming President , surrounded by usual suspects (Dan Senor and others) is sent on journey to the motherland to criticize the President. In the process he abandons everything he has ever espoused, like cutting aid to said motherland. The good news is that it doesnt (so far except for Georgie Bush) work. Rand ask Mitt how that worked for him. Another failed Manchurian candidate

    • seanmcbride
      January 27, 2013, 12:48 pm

      Blownaway,

      Another failed Manchurian candidate

      Mossad Manchurian Candidates — easy marks; weak minds; putty in the hands of the neocons; golems; sad sacks; blank slates. Completely without the ability to engage in independent and critical thinking. They are taking the United States down, down, down.

      They tend to have minders: Joe Lieberman minds John McCain and Lindsey Graham. William Kristol has minded Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin. minded = given them minds. They regurgitate the scripts that have been written for them.

    • Krauss
      January 27, 2013, 3:39 pm

      Annie, you are on top of things!

      Here’s some more background information:

      link to commentarymagazine.com

      Rand Paul knows what needs to be done to get elected and rise in Washington. Still, it’s more remarkable for him to do these things simply because of who his father was/is.

      I’m not exactly sympathetic to Ron Paul’s views on anything else except on foreign wars, drones and civil liberties(where I’m pretty libertarian), but the betrayal of principle that Rand has done is striking.

      Another freudian slip here:

      link to wnd.com

      “President Paul.. I like the ring of that”.

      Also, unlike his father, he went full-prostitute for Israel by stating “an attack on Israel is an attack on America”.

      Meanwhile, the neocons at Commentary keeps insulting his dad as a ‘nutjob’ and ‘an extremist’ and keeps demanding that he must give them more. Apparently he doesn’t care how much they insult his dad, his ambition to get re-elected and promoted – for no other reason than to get re-elected and promoted – takes the upper hand.

      Rand Paul is a base case in how the Israel lobby corrupts people – although to be fair, Rand was more than willing to be corrupted.
      Nonetheless, nobody forced the neocons and the Israel lobby to do it.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 27, 2013, 4:23 pm

        wow, “an attack on israel is an attack on the united states”

        good catch krauss. the date is the 24th, the same day i researched drafted and threw all the links together for this story. must have just missed the publication by hrs, should have kept searching over the weekend! that would have surely made it into the story.

  2. Annie Robbins
    January 27, 2013, 12:59 pm

    for fun, i recommend christian rocca’s “fun gossipy snippet ” link to his blog. it’s in italian but worth running thru google translate. WS’s buffet link is funny too. that was only a year ago at a time kristol was causing a stir on msm saying he didn’t like ron paul, which went viral. so wouldn’t it be funny/odd/haha if son rand made a name for himself as being the lobby patsy.

    also, anyone else note confirmation video. transcript paul’s several references to what’s threatening to israel and israel’s security? weird. maybe he thinks kerry’s being confirmed as israel’s sec of state.

    • Krauss
      January 27, 2013, 3:57 pm

      I’m by no means an expert in the Ron Paul movement but I did some of their blogs. Rand Paul apparently broke with his father’s economic principles before he started whoring for Israel. I don’t think Rand Paul has a lot of clout inside that movement. He’s trying to become a more middle-of-the-road GOP candidate, but that’s precisely what disgusts the Paul grassroots.

      I even saw some blogs compare Rand to Benedict Arnold. That was pretty amusing. My point, however, is that I think neocons are seriously deluding themselves if they can an obvious political whore like Rand and use him to ‘co-opt’ the Paul grassroots. Those grassroots are overwhelmingly libertarian and pro-peace. Libertarians is also the political movement with the highest average IQs and usually have above-average amount of education. It’ll simply be hard to fool most of them.

      The neocons think that they’ll get the minorities(how?) and then co-opt the libertarian young people(they know that Paul commands the attention of the youth in the party), but they won’t get either.

      While I’m always concerned with the GOP neocons we shouldn’t forget that there is plenty of them in the Democratic party too, like Bob Rubin(who’s more involved in the pro-Wall St camp, but who’s still a neocon on foreign policy), Leslie Gelb and others. Since I think that a Democratic victory in 2016 is very likely it’s important to look at that party even closer. Especially at a guy like Cory Booker, who may well run after just a year or two in the senate, like Obama.

      The Democratic nominee in 2016 will be very important, since that winner will almost certainly be the President. I hope Hillary and Booker both fail. I’d prefer Elizabeth Warren, but she seems kind of reluctant(sadly).

      • G. Seauton
        January 28, 2013, 2:03 am

        “Rand Paul apparently broke with his father’s economic principles before he started whoring for Israel.” In what way? I haven’t seen anything about that. Please provide links. Also, note that comments from sites such as redstate.com do not count as evidence unless seriously buttressed with verifiable facts.

        “Libertarians is also the political movement with the highest average IQs and usually have above-average amount of education.” Is that so? Are you a libertarian? More to the point, are you a native speaker of English? Because if you are, your sentence contains a subject-verb agreement error (“libertarians is”), which not so long ago would have marked you as having little education and probably a fairly low IQ in the minds of educated speakers of English. I realize, given the Internet and all that, that written English is often muddled these days, but you will admit, I’m sure, that your statement is ironic to say the least. Also, later on, you write, “While I’m always concerned with the GOP neocons we shouldn’t forget that there is plenty of them in the Democratic party too….” Are you sure you want to go out on a limb about libertarian IQ? Or perhaps you’re not actually libertarian (see my earlier question)?

      • Citizen
        January 28, 2013, 5:02 am

        @ Krauss

        Warren’s keen intelligence and moral eye knocks the Wall St finance lobby dead, but she’s like a child when parroting the usual Israel lobby lines.

      • Kathleen
        January 28, 2013, 8:51 pm

        Warren is a deep disappointment on the I/P issue and Iran. Repeats the warmongers chorus.

  3. American
    January 27, 2013, 1:18 pm

    “How did a libertarian southern senator with Tea Party bona fides get to be a neoconservative wonderboy? Not to mention that Rand Paul is the son of Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who was the one presidential candidate last year to say that we could contain Iran?”

    Good question. Can and were his own actual ‘prior beliefs/attitudes be altered? Well I don’t think anyone’s basic beliefs are changed by pressure—-I think they pretend they are changed and I think they may alter their ‘actions or policies’ for political gain..
    Maybe it is my over active imagination, but there is something very ‘sly’ about Paul…I don’t’ know how to put my finger on it…..but I can imagine him hopping on the zionist horse and hopping off of it just as easily if he ever held any real power.

    • anonymouscomments
      January 27, 2013, 5:50 pm

      american,

      i agree and hope that is rand’s “plan”… but even if so, there is a hitch.

      in this common approach which includes an appeasement of the lobby/currying favor… those with good intentions think it is a temporary evil for gaining power, and they can moderate or even spurn them in time.

      then they are faced with various stark issues-

      1) the lobby and its allies often get enough dirt that they can bury an admin, or at least prevent re-election, so there goes term 1 basically…
      2) they saw the lobby as enablers, but did not realize the full extent of the lobby’s power… they might have envisioned carrots and some sticks, but they did not realize the extent of the sticks- media pundits and some MSM outlets can be turned on them, on issues distinct from israel (economy, security, competency, etc.), and they can even cause a mild mutiny and disarray in congress.
      3) given the power centers linked with the lobby, one who strongly and effectively bucks all the soft and hard power, there is always a major event, scandal, impeachment, or even a bullet to the head… we are not dealing with just AIPAC, but them and associated forces.
      4) etc. there are many ways the lobby will keep them on agenda

      basically, we need to make it such that rational and true speech with regard to israel is not a liability, but even an asset. we need to defeat the lobby, for as long as we are hoping for a trojan horse, we will always be let down.

      • anonymouscomments
        January 27, 2013, 11:48 pm

        and to bring blankfort back from the MW graveyard, it is good to read this piece on the tactics and power of the lobby, and the fairly deluded chomskian position-
        link to leftcurve.org

      • W.Jones
        January 28, 2013, 1:51 am

        I thought it was a good article and makes a good point. How effective can a peace movement be in the case of a conflict if one of the side’s full political power is not recognized or downplayed?

        When that power is exercized, it will not be recognized as such, because it is believed not to be nearly as strong as what occurs. So in the case of Rand Paul, many may not even realize that his position did not change because of his convictions. They may think that he just became a realist and decided this was a more effective policy, or that his mind just thought conservative politics were better on the issue.

      • Kathleen
        January 28, 2013, 8:48 pm

        Jeffrey is over at Foreign policy a great deal. Shines the light on the resistance to some pieces of the truth over here. Jeffrey is so well informed in many ways far more than the staff of MW…maybe why Phil and team do not want him here. He does not mince words or dance the liberal zionist jig

      • Citizen
        January 28, 2013, 5:20 am

        “basically, we need to make it such that rational and true speech with regard to israel is not a liability, but even an asset. we need to defeat the lobby, for as long as we are hoping for a trojan horse, we will always be let down.”

        In who’s lifetime? Hagel’s POV on foreign policy is as rational as can be and look how it’s been spun. The same thing regarding Ron Paul on that subject matter.

        Look for Bill Maher to suddenly start saying nice things about Rand Paul. In his latest show he refers to him as a “crackpot” for asking Hillary detailed questions regarding how State handled the specific warnings and cries for help from the embassy and whether it was engaged in running guns to rebels in Syria, etc.

        It appears Rand thinks he can claim to cut foreign aid to Israel by not selling arms to other ME countries since each time we do, we have to, as he puts it, “give” more or better quality arms to Israel. Such policy is additional to the annual direct $3 B plus underwriting Israel’s debt. He sure changed his mind quickly on foreign aid generally. I agree with American he’d hop on & off any lobby/hobby horse in a NY minute. But I also agree with anonymousecomments it’s most difficult to hop of the Israel lobby horse once you are on it.

  4. Annie Robbins
    January 27, 2013, 1:20 pm

    you can really see the neocons salivating over ron paul’s following in the ‘future of the gop’ thread. ron paul really messed with the the gop primaries as far as the establishment was concerned. the party is in decline. so any reconfiguration of the electorate to pull his following into their camp would be the challenge. co opting the son with that little piece missing from his dad’s bio (humping for israel) appears to be in the works.

    it’s interesting from multiple perspectives…his father’s legacy for one. i’d like to be a fly on the wall of a father/son discussion over this development.

    • Hostage
      January 28, 2013, 4:36 am

      co opting the son with that little piece missing from his dad’s bio (humping for israel) appears to be in the works.

      Not if he’s going to run around talking nutter nonsense about the Jewish settlements in the State of Palestine being an internal Israel affair.

      None of the countries he deals with on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee are likely to accept talk like that from US neocons, while they blather-on endlessly about collective international responsibility (under the terms of R2P or Common Article 1 of the Geneva Conventions) to drum-up international support for their interventions in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Iran. It’s a non-starter in this day and age.

  5. pabelmont
    January 27, 2013, 1:28 pm

    “Paul: They only understand… strength, if we keep sending them weapons they’re not gonna change their behavior…”

    If only he’d been talking about Israel! Make that “sending them weapons, money, UNSC vetoes”.

    Hey, maybe we could suggest that to Obama/Kerry/Hagel. And has a new USA amb to UN been proposed?

    • James Canning
      January 27, 2013, 2:55 pm

      Bravo. Indeed, it is Israel’s behavior that needs chaning. Is this beyond the grasp of Rand Paul?

  6. Les
    January 27, 2013, 2:37 pm

    I presume this is how Paul is paying for his “free” trip to Israel.

  7. James Canning
    January 27, 2013, 2:54 pm

    John Kerry is quite right: it is better to make peace in the region. Israel should have accepted the 2002 Saudi peace plan, with some changes. The moron in the White House failed to back that plan.

  8. James Canning
    January 27, 2013, 2:59 pm

    Rand Paul is dead wrong on whether Israel should be told what it must do. Eisenhower forced Israel out of the Sinai in 1956-57. Lyndon Johnson should have forced Israel out of the Sinai, the West Bank and the Golan Heights, after the 1967 Arab-Israel war.

    • Citizen
      January 28, 2013, 5:24 am

      @ James Canning
      Instead Johnson forced cover-up of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty.

  9. DICKERSON3870
    January 27, 2013, 3:33 pm

    RE: “Rand Paul’s taking a leading role as Israel’s protector lately.” ~ Annie

    I THINK THIS PROBABLY EXPLAINS RAND PAUL’S BEHAVIOR:

    DICKERSON3870 says:
    March 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    RE: “Sen. Rand Paul blocks Iran sanctions bill, calls for ‘thoughtful debate’ before we start another war” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: AIPAC will make every effort to see to it that Rand Paul is not reelected. Think Paul Findley, Pete McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, Chuck Percy, etc.

    SEE: 10 Ways AIPAC Undermines Democracy at Home and in the Middle East, By Medea Benjamin, AlterNet, 2/29/12

    (excerpt) 6. AIPAC attacks politicians who question unconditional support of Israel.
    AIPAC demands that Congress to rubber stamp legislation drafted by AIPAC staff. It keeps a record of how members of Congress vote and this record is used by donors to make contributions to the politicians who score well. Members of Congress who fail to support AIPAC legislation have been targeted for defeat in re-election bids. These include Senators Adlai Stevenson III and Charles H. Percy, and Representatives Paul Findley, Pete McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, and Earl F. Hilliard. AIPAC’s overwhelmingly disproportionate influence on Congress subverts our democratic system. . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to alternet.org

    SOURCE – link to mondoweiss.net

    • DICKERSON3870
      January 27, 2013, 3:39 pm

      P.S.

      DICKERSON3870 says:
      March 31, 2012 at 12:30 am

      AIPAC and/or the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC)
      will probably go after Rand Paul in Kentucky’s 2016 Republican primary by recruiting and funding a “social conservative” / “values” candidate that especially appeals to the Fundies (Christian Evangelicals).

      NOTE: White Evangelicals. State, %. Tennessee, 47.0% Oklahoma, 46.3% Alabama, 46.1% W. Virginia, 44.2% Arkansas, 44.0% N. Carolina, 40.0% Kentucky, 37.0% S. Carolina …
      SOURCE – link to beliefnet.com

      SOURCE – link to mondoweiss.net

      • DICKERSON3870
        January 27, 2013, 4:04 pm

        RE: Kentucky, 37.0% (White Evangelicals)

        ELABORATION: This means that a majority of those Kentuckians who vote in the Republican primaries in Kentucky are “White Evangelicals”.
        In Georgia, “White Evangelicals” constitute 32.7% of the population, and the Fundies have completely taken over the Republican party in Georgia. This is why we have Fundie ‘nut jobs’ in Congress like Phil Gingrey and Paul Broun .
        Our “chickenhawk” senator Saxby Chambliss (who has been on the Israel Project’s “board of advisors” since he was first elected to the U.S. Senate back in 2002) began his 2008 reelection campaign with a bio ad on TV that prominently featured his “belief in a benevolent God”.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 27, 2013, 4:08 pm

      dickerson, and as i mentioned a year ago he advocated halting all financial aid to Israel. something changed in the last year. maybe he got an offer to backhis presidential ambitions. let’s see how he talks on iran in the future.

      • kalithea
        January 27, 2013, 10:52 pm

        I’m not buying any of this. His father can’t stand neocons and they’re all Zionists and they can’t stand him. You’re reaching.

        He’s playing along. Zionists will NEVER trust Ron Paul or his son, but who knows, if he plays the game well enough maybe they’ll be fooled.

        I imagine every Neocon in the room cringing at this statement:

        Paul: …..I see support for Syrian rebels coming back to threaten Israel as well….

        Neocons/Zionists will doing anything to see the rebels to win. Soooo…again, I’M NOT BUYING THIS THEORY that Rand Paul is embracing Neoconservatism.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 27, 2013, 11:51 pm

        check out the video at krauss’s 2nd link kalithea

        link to mondoweiss.net

  10. Philip Munger
    January 27, 2013, 3:41 pm

    I’m not a huge fan of Rand Paul, but if you watch the clips with him, there is something attractive about him

    He also found Palin attractive. Why don’t potential candidates keep themselves about 1,000 miles away from Kristol?

    Rand Paul gives me the creeps. I doubt he will prove to be a viable presidential candidate.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 27, 2013, 4:04 pm

      philip, have you opened that 2010 link and watched the video? kristol literally gushes when i says that. it’s amusing to watch.

      • Philip Munger
        January 27, 2013, 4:57 pm

        I was forced to have to put Palin back into my mind this past week because of the end of her FOX contract. While reading about that, I came across Nick Broomfield’s Palin movie, which is now on youtube in its entirety. 15 minutes into it, I had to go outside and retch my guts out.

        link to my.firedoglake.com

        Back to Rand Paul: He may set a new record for pandering to the lobby, but his timing is off.

    • G. Seauton
      January 28, 2013, 2:15 am

      “Rand Paul gives me the creeps.” Me too. I’m surprised more people don’t agree.

      • Citizen
        January 28, 2013, 5:31 am

        @ G Seauton
        Like a white tin snake in a tin can?

  11. Kathleen
    January 27, 2013, 5:02 pm

    Rand Paul is so polar opposite on the I/P conflict of this father…who played it relatively honestly on this issue

  12. Kathleen
    January 27, 2013, 5:03 pm

    Kerry was amazing during the hearing. So diplomatic. He really knows the material

    • kalithea
      January 27, 2013, 10:54 pm

      OY…how easily we’re fooled.

    • Citizen
      January 28, 2013, 5:33 am

      Kerry actually tried to convey to Rand (in very vague diplospeak) that the US has other interests to support in ME besides Israel’s.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 28, 2013, 11:21 am

        kerry handled him like a pro, no comparison between the two.

  13. weindeb
    January 28, 2013, 2:49 am

    Kristol is, was and will doubtless remain a vile, moronic chicken hawk, who, like a number of others of his ilk, though probably more intelligent and thus more dangerous, are awash in Iraqi blood, which, like dogs lapping up their own vomit, they thirst for and which seems not in any way to deter them as they go about their latest advocacy; namely, bomb Iran because Israel wants us to. I wonder if Kristol ever underwent surgery to make his grin perpetual or if it’s simply an unwitting jack-o’lantern manifestation of his neocon morality?

    • Kathleen
      January 28, 2013, 8:54 pm

      Kristol “vile, moronic chicken hawk” Tell us how you really feel deb. Really like it when people just rip it up with the truth.

  14. eGuard
    January 28, 2013, 4:57 am

    So Ron Paul said: You’ve heard President Morsi’s comments about Zionists and Israelis being blood suckers and descendants of apes and pigs

    Actually, Morsi did not say that. The MEMRI translation (is it trustable this time?) says (1:18): These occupiers of the land of Palestine know – these bloodsuckers, who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs.

    Even better: for a politician, opposing war and occupation is a honorable position.

    link to youtube.com (total time 4:42)

    • eljay
      January 28, 2013, 11:53 am

      >> So Ron Paul said: You’ve heard President Morsi’s comments about Zionists and Israelis being blood suckers and descendants of apes and pigs
      >> Actually, Morsi did not say that. The MEMRI translation (is it trustable this time?) says (1:18): These occupiers of the land of Palestine know – these bloodsuckers, who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs.

      But…if Zionists and Israelis are not the occupiers of the land of Palestine, who is?

  15. Shingo
    January 28, 2013, 6:09 am

    Everyone should take a look at this clip from Bill Maher, who I can’t stand, but who exposed what a dip shit Rand Paul has become.

    The relevant part starts at 5:28.
    link to youtube.com!

    Maher was summarizing Rand Paul’s grilling of Hillary Clinton over Bengazi. Maher cuts to the actual interrogation.

    Paul asks Clinton if the US is involved in procuring weapons for Turkey out of Lybia. Clinton’s response is utterly priceless and she exposes what a buffoon Paul is.
    Maher goes on to explain that Paul when on Hannity the next day and said:

    “I don’t have proof of this. No one has given me any information, I have no briefing on this.”

    If this guy is seriously being groomed for the next presidential race, the Republicans are more screwed than ever and Kristol’s Medusa touch continues.

  16. quercus
    January 28, 2013, 6:28 am

    @American. I think you are correct about Rand Paul being ‘sly’ as you say or ‘cunning’ I would say. In the dishonest world of politics , no one in office ever really says what he/she thinks. Personally, I think Rand Paul highly intelligent. Notice he refers to Israel as a “sovereign nation” meaning a nation which should be able to makes decisions about its welfare unfettered by the views of other nations. This statement is a prelude to a policy of cutting Israel loose. It’s the politician’s way of saying, “you make your bed, you lie in it”. He knows exactly what he is doing and I do not believe he is some Zionist lackey, at all. As William Kristol has a very exaggerated view of his own intelligence and cunning, it would not surprise me in the least that he’s been taking for a ride by Rand Paul.

  17. marc b.
    January 28, 2013, 9:20 am

    just a quick note to annie. r.silverstein is reporting an attack on the fordo nuclear plant, and maybe not so coincidentally, marine general james mattis, iran attack skeptic, and “commander of central command, [] is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

    from foreign policy:

    Why the hurry? Pentagon insiders say that he rubbed civilian officials the wrong way — not because he went all “mad dog,” which is his public image, and the view at the White House, but rather because he pushed the civilians so hard on considering the second- and third-order consequences of military action against Iran. Some of those questions apparently were uncomfortable. Like, what do you do with Iran once the nuclear issue is resolved and it remains a foe? What do you do if Iran then develops conventional capabilities that could make it hazardous for U.S. Navy ships to operate in the Persian Gulf? He kept saying, “And then what?”

  18. gingershot
    January 28, 2013, 9:49 am

    The architect of the Clean Break Plan for securing Israeli Apartheid and domination of American foreign policy and kinetic military actions is also quick, I notice again, to applaud anyone caving into his pressure ‘to act like a neocon’, to act like Cheney and the neocons were able to get George the Clueless to ‘decision-ate’

    Obama wants to surge in Afghanistan and war against Pakistan? – Kristol and Cheney come out of their closests to chortle and applaud. Sen Paul wants to convert to neocon-ism? Happy to have you on our side, says Kristol.

    Brent Scowcroft said that George Bush was ‘as if hypnotized’ by Ariel Sharon. Regressed to a childlike state as if taking dictation from his all powerful Daddy. The Israeli Lobby destroyed his father – maybe it was something that simple – an overrun ‘if you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em’ kind of Vichy France mentality.

    What is it – other than cold hard cash and your main chance at being president, that makes American politicians so utterly corruptible to Israel?

    The American Zombies for Israel – they willingly give their brain at the office in order to attain office in the first place. The most fausty-ist of Faustian bargains

    Will somebody please snap Sen Paul (Presidential candidate for 2016) out of it?

    Who would be the most Israel Zombified for 2016 – Hillary or Rand Paul? It will be a race to the bottom alright, you can bet on that. Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum

    Although I realize that this is completely inane – I still think Hillary will be on the make to get Adelson’s money in 2016 unless someone beats her to it – at least it won’t be for want of trying. She was Israel’ s candidate for 2008, not John McCain

    Will Hillary try to double-dip from both , or, more likely, will Adelson bait the Dem and Repub to compete in the race to the bottom as the most craven Pro-Apartheid Israel?

  19. kalithea
    January 30, 2013, 12:57 pm

    Kerry deserves to be lectured!:

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