Beinart demands equality for the Cheney sisters, but is ‘willing to compromise’ equality of Palestinian Israelis

As Peter Beinart leaves Open Zion to pursue writing about other subjects of interest, he has taken an uncompromising stance against Liz Cheney’s grudging tolerance of her sister’s sexual orientation.  He doesn’t buy Liz’s declaration of “compassion” for Mary, a word that connotes “pity for the morally diseased.”  Beinart condemns those who “avoid open expressions of contempt” but “merely insist that gays and lesbians live as second-class citizens, denied the fundamental rights that Liz, Dick, and Lynne Cheney take for granted.”

Peter Beinart

Peter Beinart

It’s nice to see Peter Beinart take such a strong stand on equality.  Too bad he does not feel it should be a universal principle.  Here is what he has to say about Palestinian citizens of Israel:  “I’m not asking Israel to be Utopian. I’m not asking it to allow Palestinians who were forced out (or fled) in 1948 to return to their homes. I’m not even asking it to allow full, equal citizenship to Arab Israelis, since that would require Israel no longer being a Jewish state. I’m actually pretty willing to compromise my liberalism for Israel’s security and for its status as a Jewish state.”

So while it is unacceptable for anyone to insist that gay citizens be relegated to second-class status, Beinart has no difficulty insisting that Palestinian-Israelis live as second-class citizens, denied the fundamental rights that Israeli Jews take for granted.

How does Beinart’s view differ from the one he condemns when expressed by Liz Cheney?  Cheney values adherence to her religious principles over equality for all; Beinart values adherence to the notion of a Jewish State over equality.  If anything, Beinart is more hypocritical, because he professes to place such importance in his liberal principles, in particular an insistence on equality under the law.  Indeed it would be difficult to imagine any other circumstances in which a good liberal like Beinart would tolerate inequality:  for gays in the US, Muslims in Western Europe, Tamils in Sri Lanka, Hungarians in Slovakia, indigenous people in Bolivia and Peru.  Apparently his sole exception to the otherwise inviolable rule demanding equality for all applies to Palestinian citizens of Israel.

Note that Beinart appears to be a sincere liberal Zionist, one who truly opposes the occupation, supports a Palestinian State, and frets about those laws and policies within Israel that he sees as unnecessarily discriminatory.  He presumably would favor true freedom and self-determination for the millions of Palestinians suffering under Israeli military occupation.  Still, he understands that a Jewish State will inherently require some government-imposed discrimination in favor of Jews, even American Jews such as himself, over indigenous non-Jewish people.  And he is OK with that.

Beinart lectures the Cheneys: “you cannot lovingly or respectfully or compassionately tell one group of Americans that they must accept legal inferiority just because of who they are.”  But he says exactly the opposite thing about Palestinian citizens of Israel:  you can tell them that they must accept legal inferiority just because of who they are.

This is the inherent contradiction in liberal Zionism.  No principle is more hallowed in liberalism than equality under the law, which cannot co-exist with the system of ethnic privilege promised by the Jewish State.  In fact, supporters of such a transformation to an egalitarian society are routinely and falsely depicted as calling for the “destruction” of Israel.  Even Norman Finkelstein has adopted such language.  Beinart might never use that word, but how can he be so clueless as to mouth platitudes about second-class citizenship, denial of fundamental rights, and legal inferiority when Zionism is such a fundamental part of his makeup?

Beinart closes his essay with an excerpt from Martin Luther King’s letter from Birmingham jail: “Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection…We will have to repent in this generation, not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.”  How would Beinart respond if a Palestinian wrote the same words to him?

About David Samel

David Samel is am attorney in New York City.
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  1. Krauss says:

    Give Beinart some credit.

    At least he doesn’t defend ethnic cleansing(as Ari Shavit) and then proceed with patronizing victimbashing by telling that the people who survived these repeated campaigns “are better off because of it”.

    I’m glad that Beinart defends gay rights in America. I’m not surprised, given the low bar we’ve set for liberal Zionists, that he manages to succeed in surpassing these expectations by not defending ethnic cleansing but merely accepting an Apartheid regime.

    Hey, they may be occupied and Beinart may cut them enormous amount of slack, but at least he doesn’t advocate their forceful removal! Gotta give him credit for something!

    I’m looking forward to reading his articles defending Yair Lapid as a new columnist for Ha’aretz, the guy who is BFF with Bennett who has advocated annexation of 60% of the West Bank or how he pinches Lieberman in the cheek as a friendly gesture, who has advocated another round of ethnic cleansing and demanded that “illoyal” Arabs be shot.

    Or not to mention when he announced his campaign – in Ariel.

    These are all imperfect liberal things that Yair has done, and while there is that famous “tension” we all know of between Zionism and liberalism, it can be resolved! Just ask Beinart: suspend your liberalism at the door. It’s very easy.

  2. marc b. says:

    this is no reflection on the author, but I couldn’t make it through this post. even with a ‘hyper’ coffee in hand. there is so-called ‘compassion fatigue’. I am suffering from ‘beinart fatigue’. now that he has flashed us with his hypocrisy, having squeezed every bit of promotional sales potential out of ‘open zion’, can we move on? I sometimes think that there is an unhealthy fixation with the minutia of false liberals’ bleating. absent an epiphany, a re-birth of beinart, I presume that everything beinart has to say publicly is corrupted by his writerly ambition to be ‘relevant’. and to be compensated accordingly.

  3. eGuard says:

    Be careful here. Mondoweiss believes that Beinart will break the entrenched US Zionism open and that a fruitful discussion will follow. The belief is strong, already over two and a half years.

  4. Mike_Konrad says:

    This is where theory runs up against reality.

    In theory, every one should be treated equally and fair and rightly.

    But what do you do when your opposition wants to create an Islamic state, in a region of the world where Islamic states and/or principles prevail? Such states make non-Muslims dhimmis. In Egypt for example: A Muslim, by law, is NOT allowed to convert to Christianity.

    A Muslim woman may not marry a Christian man, again by law; even if she wants to. For ex: Omar Sharif was born Christian; but was not allowed to marry his first wife until he converted to Islam, even though the Muslim woman was agreeable.

    Now imagine you are a Jew whose ancestors were slaughtered in Europe in living memory. Do you think you are going to trust majority rule to be the guiding principle of the state?

    Don’t kid yourself. Islamic extremism is a force in Palestine. It may have weakened in Gaza, but it is growing in the West Bank.

    The Jews will never surrender that point.

    ========
    BTW: HOW COME MY COMMENTS ARE NOT BEING ARCHIVED?

    • Hostage says:

      This is where theory runs up against reality.

      LOL! I’ve noticed, that when reality fails to live-up to the ideals embodied in fundamental Jewish law, a large number of the leaders and officials of the Jewish State call it sinful or disgraceful behavior and run amok shreying Gevalt!

      That’s especially true when they talk about anti-Zionist Jews who know that the theory about the Jewish rights in Eretz Israel derived from a bogus historical connection really have no basis in reality.

      But what do you do when your opposition wants to create an Islamic state, in a region of the world where Islamic states and/or principles prevail? Such states make non-Muslims dhimmis. In Egypt for example: A Muslim, by law, is NOT allowed to convert to Christianity.

      You won’t find any shortage of Jews in Israel who think that Christian charities and missionary activities are illegal there too, e.g. See Kosher permit lost for ‘missionary activity’ link to ynetnews.com

      FYI, I’ve mentioned a couple of times that it was a matter of public record in the Ottoman era that rich and middle cast Jewish dhimmis, including those in Palestine, frequently owned Christian and even Muslim slaves. In fact, many Jews earned a living as slave traders. See for example Yaron Ben-Naeh, “Blond, tall, with honey-colored eyes: Jewish ownership of slaves in the Ottoman Empire.” Jewish History 20.3-4 (2006): 315-332 link to pluto.huji.ac.il

    • seafoid says:

      1936
      This is where theory runs up against reality.

      In theory, every one should be treated equally and fair and rightly.

      But what do you do when your opposition wants to control world finance and bankrupt Germany ? Such financiers humiliate Germans.

      See, Mike? That is how it starts.

    • talknic says:

      @ Mike_Konrad

      I have to agree with you. Every comment should be archived. However it could be embarrassing if later they’re shown as evidence of duplicity, hypocrisy, outright lies

    • just says:

      Mike has been given guidance by many on this site on how to be “archived”.

      He chooses to ignore it, and demands attention.

      Break the rules, bear the consequences. A novel concept to a hasbararian, I know.

    • Shegetz says:

      ========
      BTW: HOW COME MY COMMENTS ARE NOT BEING ARCHIVED?

      This is being done to you on purpose? Or is the underscore in your alias giving the database parser fits?

      It is a mystery!! :)

  5. pabelmont says:

    Beinart: “I’m not even asking it to allow full, equal citizenship to Arab Israelis, since that would require Israel no longer being a Jewish state.”

    A lot of people say stuff like this. But what do they mean by it? Do they in fact mean anything by it, other than magically to substitute these words for another set of words: “I do not wish to tick off the Jewish citizens of Israel and my Zionist friends in the USA”?

    Could they conceivably mean that a “Jewish State” necessarily denies equality to non-Jewish citizens? Necessarily? Non-Jews MUST HAVE poor garbage collection, bad roads, less electricity, and NO BUILDING PERMITS, or else (GASP!) Israel will no longer be “Jewish”. Not “be” “Jewish”. Do they really mean that to be “Jewish” a state must, necessarily, discriminate, deny equal civil rights and human rights to non-majority folks? this is “necessary”?

    Hunh?

    I guess this formulation is a stop-gap for the day — may it come soon! — when non-Jews in Israel constitute such a large voting block that Israel (forget about OPTs and Golan) must decide between discriminatory-democracy and out-and-out-apartheid.

    One question for Beinart and others on Israeli “democracy”: UNDER TODAY’S LAWS AND JUDICIAL OPINIONS, if a non-Jewish political party (call it a Palestinian political party) forms under a declared program of Zionism and fealty to Israel as a Jewish and Democratic state — can the MKs of the party (assuming they have any) vote to repeal the Law of Jewish Return?

    Any lawyers out there?

    • eljay says:

      >> Do they really mean that to be “Jewish” a state must, necessarily, discriminate, deny equal civil rights and human rights to non-majority folks? this is “necessary”?

      To Zio-supremacists – even the “liberal” ones – it is necessary.

      RW once proposed what he must’ve thought was a “kinder and gentler” method to keep the supremacist “Jewish State” Jewish: Re-draw the borders of Israel, as required, to exclude any large, non-Jewish “demographic”.

      Essentially, he was suggesting rendering non-Jewish Israelis stateless by excising them out of their own country if their non-Jewish demographic threatened the Jewishness of the supremacist “Jewish State”.

      And he genuinely thought this was a reasonable proposal.

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      “A lot of people say stuff like this. But what do they mean by it?”

      I believe that this is their was of buying into a reactionary, racist regime while still pretending to be liberals, because, psychologically, they want to be thought of as (and want to think of themselves as) caring, progressive, thinking people. They fail the ultimate test of principles: if you’re not willing to apply your principles to yourself, you don’t have principles. Instead of admitting that their supposed liberalism is accompanied by a huge asterisk that negates everything that comes before it, they make up some type of rationale (really, an excuse) as to why THIS situation is such that the liberalism that they so passionately claim to value doesn’t apply. In short, they’re self-deluding hypocrites.

    • Hostage says:

      UNDER TODAY’S LAWS AND JUDICIAL OPINIONS, if a non-Jewish political party (call it a Palestinian political party) forms under a declared program of Zionism and fealty to Israel as a Jewish and Democratic state — can the MKs of the party (assuming they have any) vote to repeal the Law of Jewish Return?

      Any lawyers out there?

      No I don’t think so. The in-gathering of the exiles is the raison d’etre of the Jewish State and that mission has been affirmed in decisions on the legality of political party platforms by the Central Election Commission and the Supreme Court.

      FYI, On the day he introduced the Law of Return and the Nationality Law, during the 160th Sitting of the First Knesset, David Ben Gurion said that “The Law of Return is one of the State of Israel’s Basic Laws. It encompasses one of the central missions of our country, the in-gathering of the exiles.”
      – See Lorch, Netanel (ed), Major Knesset Debates, 1948-1981, Volume 2, JCPA/University Press of America, 1993, pp 611 – 613 (pdf pages 142-143) link to jcpa.org

      Despite the fact that they didn’t label them as “Basic Laws” back in those days, the Israeli courts have always treated them as having that constitutional character of rendering conflicting laws, regulations, and political party platforms subversive and legally invalid.

  6. Nevada Ned says:

    How about this as a semi-serious idea?

    Find one rabbi who is sympathetic to the Palestinians. Carry out a religious ceremony, which involves a lot of what atheists view as hocus-pocus. Rabbi faces the West Bank, recites some magical phrases, etc. At the end of this ceremony, the rabbi proclaims that all Palestinians are officially Jewish. Whether they want to be or not. (In the history of world religions, not all conversions have been voluntary. Some have been forced)

    The Palestinians, including those in refugee camps, then apply for first-class citizenship under the Law of Return.

    I don’t entertain for a minute the notion that this will actually work.
    But it will result in negative publicity for Israel and its official racism.
    Israeli officials will object that “Jews are a race, not a religion”, so official Israeli policy is racism, not religious bigotry.

    • Citizen says:

      @ Nevada Ned
      Interesting. It might work. All Palestinians say they will convert to become Jews, thus gain the privilege of the law of return? In fact, everybody knows Jewish religion is not like other religions in that Judaism makes it very hard to convert, rather than (really) easy. Which is why it wouldn’t work. You can spin on one foot forever, reciting the Torah or Talmud before you will be accepted as a Jew (with the right of return, the Jewish one, not the universal one).

  7. Not surprising, never had trust in Beinart.

  8. Abdul-Rahman says:

    The hypocrisy of people like Peter Beinart is shocking, appalling, and somewhat humorous (all in one). People like Beinart are definitely “PEP” (Progressive on Everything EXCEPT Palestine); and it should be noted Beinart only really becomes somewhat “progressive” here (i.e. his stance on the illegal settlements) only because of those to the right of him being so extreme (kind of like how some corporate funded Democrats can appear “not as bad”; in relation to the insanity coming out of today’s Republican party).

    I’m also reminded of the hypocrisy, that many others have noted, that these Zionists (including many “liberal” Zionists) show on certain other issues as well. Two of the most prominent being: what we could call the demographic “make-up” of a society and then secondly questions on immigration policy. Some of these Zionists will join with Americans (including myself) supporting and truly celebrating the growing diversity of American society. While from the other side of their mouth these same “liberal” Zionists always “warn” about the Palestinian baby boom as a “demographic threat” in purely racist Zionist language link to mondoweiss.net

    And on immigration some of these same Zionists (particularly “liberal” Zionists in America, who are very likely to vote Democratic most of the time) will speak up (along with people like me again) for the plight of undocumented immigrants in the United States. But then these same “liberal” Zionists turn into right wingers when it comes to African migrants in Israel (who are “of course” yet another “threat” to the ethnocratic “Jewish state”). link to mondoweiss.net and “liberal” Zionist hypocrisy on full/open display link to mondoweiss.net

    I guess as that one famous statement, I think “coined” in the modern era by those fascists over at the “JDL”, is what most of the Zionists go by. That is in their minds all that matters (in any situation) is according to their deluded Zionist opinion “is it good for Jews?”; by that they of course only mean “good” for their vile Zionist “project”.

  9. Chu says:

    Good article David.

    Beinart was going to be the messiah of the liberal Zionists only a few years ago. He was different because he was an orthodox insider who others would listen to…
    I recall all the praises of love for this guy – for whom I only remembered as a cheerleader for the Iraq war on television networks. But MJ said he’s got the goods – better than Phil at telling Jews the hard-truths they need to hear! Guess they didn’t want to listen.

    Putting him up on a pedestal was probably a mistake before he proved what he was worth.

  10. fnlevit says:

    There seem to be a consensus on this blog that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens. Could I see some links to reliable sources with evidence for this. But please not to electronic intifada and maan or wafa or the like.

    I know some discrimination elements related to the army service which are hard to change in the present geopolitical reality, On the other hand I also know of opposite examples of “affirmative action”. I personally manage a special program for science teachers (supported by a $10 mln grant from Rothschild Cesarea foundation) which gives high priority for participation of minority teachers. So – hard evidence please. Not the usual chaotic flow of anti-Zionist emotions and irrelevant quotes.

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      Mods, this clearly violates the rules against trolling and Nakba-denial. When is this person going to be banned?

    • Bumblebye says:

      Perfesser
      Pages and pages of deliberately discriminatory laws at the Adalah site – the Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel. This obviously makes Israel’s Palestinian citizenry far less than second class citizens, since ‘ordinary’ discrimination (against different sects or races of the ‘in’ group), not encoded into law, also persists.
      link to adalah.org

    • Hostage says:

      There seem to be a consensus on this blog that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens. Could I see some links to reliable sources with evidence for this.

      Here is a report, complete with analysis and long lists of discriminatory laws and military orders authored by Luciana Coconi, Graduate in Law from the Universidad Nacional de Córdoba, Argentina (2000) and Master in International Studies from the University of Barcelona (2003). There is also an introduction written by David Bondia, Professor of International Public Law and International Relations at the University of Barcelona. See Apartheid against the Palestinian people, August 2009, link to acsur.org

    • Hostage says:

      But please not to electronic intifada and maan or wafa or the like.

      One of those, WAFA, is the official Palestine news and information agency. FYI, the ICJ ignored other opinions in the US v Nicaragua case and held that the government of the victim nation or state was in the best position to determine if it had been the target of an international crime. So Palestine and the Palestinians are the only reliable source on that subject. See link to icj-cij.org

    • talknic says:

      fnlevit “I personally manage a special program for science teachers (supported by a $10 mln grant from Rothschild Cesarea foundation) which gives high priority for participation of minority teachers.”

      Uh huh …. hard evidence please

  11. fnlevit says:

    Rothschild-Weizmann Degrees

    “In 2012, 60 degrees were awarded to graduates of the second and third cycles of participants in the Rothschild-Weizmann Master’s Degree in Science Teaching Program for High School Teachers in Israel. Some 60% of these degrees went to women and 27% to teachers in the Arab sector. This program, now in its fifth year, was launched with support from the Caesarea Rothschild Foundation, and its impact on the country’s science education is already beginning to be felt.”

    link to wis-wander.weizmann.ac.il

    • elephantine says:

      Um, maybe I missed it but I’m not sure how it’s evidence that the program “gives high priority for participation of minority teachers”? What you quoted and linked to is simply a statement that 27% of graduates were Arabs? How does that somehow become evidence that high priority is given?

      While I can find mentions of programs to encourage women in science on one of the US Weizmann website, I can’t find any mention of other ‘minorities’. While it would certainly be nice if you could point to an explicit admission of this, I’m not sure how it would be evidence of anything, considering as the two partners in financing and establishing the program are both non profit organizations/charities with international boards and largely international funding (Weizmann). The second, the Rothschild Caesarea, is administered by French-born Swiss Banker Benjamin de Rothschild, who made these revealing UN-Israeli comments to Hareetz in a 2010 interview about his growing philanthropic activity in Israel’s education sector:

      What about your daughters? Would you want them to marry Jews?

      “You try telling them what to do. My oldest daughter’s boyfriend – she is 15 – is a Saudi. He is a great guy and if she will want to marry him, she can. If she brings home a black man and he is a good person, she will be able to marry him. Our role will then be to educate him to be part of the family. She will have to choose the right person. Nowadays it is impossible to force a person to choose a particular partner. It doesn’t work anymore.

      Haaretz link

      Is that how most Israelis think or speak?

      If I could find any mention that the program really does “give high priority for participation of minority teachers”, it would be one initiated by private establishments and without any Israeli government involvement. So what does that prove? Not much more than the fact that international donors expect their money to be used based on criteria other than ethnic or religious background..

      And if you look at the actual page for this program (Link), neither the description text or the nice promo video include any mention of minorities – nor does it even document any presence, choosing what seems to be only Jewish students to feature in the video. So is the “high priority for participation of minority teachers” a big secret no one is allowed to talk about or mention publicly?

      No offense but while I do think it’s a commendable goal (if true), to somehow offer this private, non governmental, internationally funded program as evidence that…. what? Equality exists in Israel between Jews and non Jews? That ‘Arab Israelis’ are not treated as second class citizens and that they enjoy the same rights as Israeli Jews? Because I hate to tell you but in reality, it doesn’t show any of these things and I find it very odd that you would think it does.

      • just says:

        Thank you, elephantine.

        • Hostage says:

          What about your daughters? Would you want them to marry Jews?

          More to the point, what about your sons? After all you’re still considered Jewish if your mother is one, due a bizarre and deliberate misreading of Deuteronomy 7 and its explicitly narrow scope of application to Eretz Israel and the seven nations. This is the supposed scriptural source for the law of matrilineal descent, e.g.:

          The verse [4] states “for he (i.e. a non-Jewish father) will cause your child to turn away … “, this implies that a child born to a Jewish mother is Jewish whereas, if a Jewish man marries a non-Jewish woman, the child is not Jewish.

          – What Is Wrong with Intermarriage?link to chabad.org

      • miriam6 says:

        elephantine@;

        Is that how most Israelis think or speak?

        Exactly which part of de Rothschild’s opinion is so offensive to you that it causes you to make prejudiced statements implying de Rothschild is a bigot?
        In the first place – what is so offensive about a Jewish person preferring that their off-spring choose a partner who will maintain their culture and religion? Or is it just cause for concern when a Jewish person wants to see their culture and religion preserved in the marital choices of their kids?

        Most crucially you are failing to distinguish between the very private and personal issue – though publicly expressed by de Rothschild – of a parent’s views on the prospect of their children’s (inter) – marriage choices and the entirely different and very PUBLIC sphere of discrimination in education and employment.

        Are you saying that very public official must be quizzed by the politically correct ‘ thought police ‘on their private and personal feelings about intermarriage before they can be trusted to deal fairly in the public arena of accountability with the rights of minorities?

        Here de Rothschild admits that;

        Nowadays it is impossible to force a person to choose a particular partner. It doesn’t work anymore.

        Benjamin de Rothschild’s opinion here does not differ greatly from the view that most parents would have of their offspring’s relationship/ marital choices.

        His defining view on the matter in his final sentence as cited above is very much like that of certain MW commenters like Gamal and Walid.

        Gamal on parenthood;

        yes, but how am I to demonstrably pass on my genetic heritage and all those cherished values I use to belittle others and glorify my insignificance? beats me, may have to give it a pass, my kids dont look anything like me and unanimously ignore my profound wisdom, it seems they have their own things and are not much in need of mine.

        link to mondoweiss.net

        Walid on parenthood ;

        My “inter” resulted in my kids looking somewhat like me but as you with yours, they too ignored my profound wisdom. Maybe that profound wisdom we cherish so much is only in our minds and they were wise enough to distance themselves from it.

        link to mondoweiss.net

        • Hostage says:

          Exactly which part of de Rothschild’s opinion is so offensive to you that it causes you to make prejudiced statements implying de Rothschild is a bigot?

          He didn’t imply that de Rothschild’s opinion is offensive or that he is a bigot, he was pointing out that he is a French-born Swiss Banker. So the individual responsible for establishing the program is not Israeli and he holds much more egalitarian views than the official Israeli one on the ability to prevent persons from choosing non-Jewish partners.

          I pointed out that the question the reporter asked might have produced a somewhat different response among Jewish readers if he had been asked about a son marrying-out, rather than a daughter who could still pass Jewish personal status to her offspring.

  12. fnlevit says:

    Really unbelievable. It starts with accusations of apartheid and ends with complains (hear, hear!!!!) that not enough PR is given to having 27% of Arab graduates in a top level program and the question if “most Israelis think or speak” like “French-born Swiss Banker Benjamin de Rothschild”. Do most American? Or French? Or Russian towards marrying Chechen? Or British toward marrying Pakistani?”. Is this apartheid?
    Stop this dishonesty!
    I was for several years on faculty in a major university in Boston area and we had just one black professor out of perhaps 30. And no Arabs. Is this Apartheid?

    Israeli Arab judge George Karra sentencing Israeli president for 7 years in prison. Apartheid?

    Lt. Col. Falach Hayib, a Bedouin Muslim officer in the IDF. Apartheid?

    Valedictorian at Israel’s Top Medical School, Technion, first in her class, Mais Ali-Saleh, from a small village outside of Nazareth. Apartheid?
    link to huffingtonpost.com

    Lina Mahul, winner of the Israeli Voice, top TV competition program. Apartheid?

    Mona Liza Abado – Arab woman IDF officer. Apartheid?

    Not a single Arab speaker in any of the International physics conference in which I participated. Apartheid?

    Thousands of Arab computer scientists graduate from Israeli colleges every year. Apartheid?

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      When the Palestinians are free and the demonic ideology of zionism joins Nazism and communism in the grave of evil bigotries, and no longer are Jews privileged in Occupied Palestine in any way, then you can claim it’s not Apartheid

      Zionism = Racism

  13. talknic says:

    fnlevit “I was for several years on faculty in a major university in Boston area..”

    Hard evidence please..

    BTW Your pointing out a few instances where one doesn’t see apartheid, is not an indicator that apartheid does not exist.

  14. fnlevit says:

    I just discovered that AFTER (!) convicting our sexually misconducting president for 7 years in prison George Karra, Arab Israeli judge was nominated a candidate for the Israeli Supreme Court. What a country!

    Also
    “Four years ago, the Israeli government named Nazareth a national priority area, meaning that Israel’s largest Arab city would be granted economic incentives as a preferential area and firms that relocate to the city are entitled to tax breaks. Recently, the first industrial park in Nazareth was officially opened in April by Israeli entrepreneur and philanthropist, Stef Wertheimer after 12 years of construction.”
    Wertheimer just sold the remainin 20% of his company Iscar located in Northern Israel to Warren Buffen to astronomical $2 bln/
    link to globes.co.il
    Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fisher and President Shimon Peres were present at the dedication ceremony, with Peres noting that there are 70,000 Arabs with university degrees who are being gradually integrated into advanced industries in Israel. Apartheid!!

    • talknic says:

      @ fnlevit points to the holes in the clouds as if it was all clear blue sky

    • Hostage says:

      “Four years ago, the Israeli government named Nazareth a national priority area,

      That takes the cake. Many of the towns on that national priority list are illegal Jewish-only settlements in occupied Palestine, where the ICJ has long-since ruled that the fundamental human rights of the non-Jewish population are being systematically violated.

      Now you’re trying to cite Nazareth as an example of progress? See:
      *”If you think I’m a racist, then Israel is a racist state: Upper Nazareth’s mayor answers detractors who say his reelection campaign calling for the mixed city to be ‘Jewish forever’ is racist.” link to haaretz.com
      * “Initiative in Upper Nazareth: $ 10,000 to every Arab family that leaves
      Elhanan Gruner 12 June 2012″:

      The chairperson of Yisrael Beiteinu party in Upper Nazareth Alex Gedalkin, has launched a campaign to encourage the departure of Arab families from town. Gedalkin is offering $10,000 to every Arab family that would sell its house the Jews and leave town forever.

      link to facebook.com
      * Upper Nazareth mayor: No Arab school here as long as I am in charge
      Mayor Shimon Gapso rejects appeal to set up an Arab school in the city, claiming the request conceals ‘a provocative nationalist statement intended to disrupt the status quo.’
      link to haaretz.com
      * Israeli lawmaker urges AG to probe ‘racist policies’ of Upper Nazareth mayor
      Request follows distribution by Upper Nazareth mayor of booklet trumpeting Jewish demographic victory.
      link to haaretz.com
      * Mapping national priorities || Cabinet approves new development plan to benefit more Israeli settlements: Several West Bank settlements and communities inhabited by former Gaza settlers to start receiving government benefits;
      link to haaretz.com

      FYI, in 2006 the Supreme Court ordered the government to discontinue the racist national priority system after delaying and stalling a decision for over eight years. The system awarded 500 Jewish communities special “National Priority A” status, compared with only four Arab villages. The Knesset simply circumvented the ruling, like it has on so many other occasions and carried on just as before.

      The latest CERD report noted that Israel still maintains separate funding for Jewish and non-Jewish sectors of society:

      The Committee notes with increased concern that Israeli society maintains Jewish and non-Jewish sectors, which raises issues under article 3 of the Convention. Clarifications provided by the delegation confirmed the Committee’s concerns in relation to the existence of two systems of education, one in Hebrew and one in Arabic, which except in rare circumstances remain impermeable and inaccessible to the other community, as well as separate municipalities: Jewish municipalities and the so-called “municipalities of the minorities”. The enactment of the Admissions Committees Law (2011), which gives private committees full discretion to reject applicants deemed “unsuitable to the social life of the community”, is a clear sign that the concerns as regards segregation remain pressing (Articles 3, 5 and 7 of the Convention). . . . As mentioned in its previous concluding observations (CERD/C/ISR/CO/13, para. 16), the Committee is concerned that no general provision for equality and the prohibition of racial discrimination has been included in the Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty (1992), which serves as Israel’s bill of rights; neither does Israeli legislation contain a definition of racial discrimination in accordance with Article 1 of the Convention. These lacunae seriously undermine the protection afforded to all persons under the jurisdiction of the State party for equal access to human rights (Article 2 of the Convention).

      link to www2.ohchr.org

    • Hostage says:

      with Peres noting that there are 70,000 Arabs with university degrees who are being gradually integrated into advanced industries in Israel. Apartheid!!

      From the recent Prime Minister’s Conference on Arabs in the economy at Tel Aviv University:

      {snip}
      Israel’s definition as a Jewish Democratic state is a contradiction that cannot be solved, Finance Minister Yair Lapid said Tuesday in a speech that cut deep into the fundamental problems facing Israel’s minorities.

      “The unsolvable problem is that Israel is defined as a Jewish State – both by law and by a decisive majority of its residents – as a Jewish Democratic state,” he said at the Prime Minister’s Conference on Arabs in the economy at Tel Aviv University. “Judaism is a whole line of values that have existed for thousands of years, but the democratic idea is a new idea, and significant parts of it stand in contradiction to Judaism.”

      Israel gave up the kings and prophets of Judaism in favor of a democratic vote, he said, while practices such as slavery and animal sacrifice had long gone out of favor.

      “The meaning of democracy is equality before the law. How can Israel say that everyone is equal before the law – that you’re equal before the law – when the law defines Judaism as the cultural, national and legislative basis for the state?” he asked the Arab participants at the conference.
      {snip}
      See Lapid: Israel’s definition as Jewish and democratic is an unsolvable contradiction link to jpost.com

  15. amigo says:

    “Lapid: The problem that has no solution is that the State of Israel is defined both by law and by a decisive majority of its citizens as a Jewish democratic state. In encounters such as this one, we tend to hide this definition. We prefer to emphasize the Israeli democracy, the right to vote and to be elected, the fact that we have Arab Members of the Knesset, and Arab judges and Arab officers in the army and we pretend to each other that if there is an Arab soccer player on the Israeli team, then we do not have a problem. But there is a problem.”

    link to mondoweiss.net

    and that problem is APARTHEID.

    Fool yourself all you like levit.Israel is finished and all your foolish efforts will amount to zero.

    Personally, I will open a bottle of bubbly the day the Zionist Entity goes out with a whimper.Just as we did when the SA Apartheid hit the dust.

    And I will be thinking of bigots and racists like you.And I will smile.

  16. fnlevit says:

    Some more “holes in the clouds”

    1. In 2012 Israeli Arab singer Nashrin Qadri won the biggest mizrachi TV music show in Israel, Eyal Golan Kore Lecha (“Eyal Golan is calling you”). link to blog.qruiser.com

    link to blogs.timesofisrael.com

    2.Maharan Radi is an Arab-Israeli footballer currently playing for Maccabi Tel Aviv .On 2 September 2012 Radi received his first call-up to the Israeli national team f. The following month he scored on his second appearance against Luxembourg.

    3. Majalli Wahabi was Lt. Col. in IDF then served as a member of the Knesset for Likud, Kadima and presently Hatnuah between 2003 and 2013.[1] In March 2005 he was appointed Deputy Minister in the Ministry in the Prime Minister’s Office, and became Deputy Minister of Education, Culture and Sport in June 2006. He briefly assumed the position of President due to President Moshe Katzav’s leave of absence and Acting President Dalia Itzik’s trip abroad in February 2007, making him the first non-Jew and the first Arab to act as Israel’s head of state.

    4. Prof. Jihad El-Sana is an associate professor at the Department of Computer Science, Ben Gurion University of the Negev

    5.Prof. Idris Titi, Prof. of Mathematics, Weizmann Institute

    6.Maya Farhan – Israeli Bedouin pop singer.

    Israeli apartheid, apartheid.