Chilean soccer team puts Palestine front and center

(Image: JTA)

(Image: JTA)

Actually, they put Palestine on the back, but it’s still getting plenty of attention. The Palestine Football Club, Deportivo Palestino, based in Santiago, Chile recently redesigned their jerseys replacing the number 1 with an image of Palestine (number 11 really lucked out).

The Chilean Jewish community is freaking out. The JTA reports that the Wiesenthal center is taking its usual understated approach and has referred to the jerseys as “fomenting terrorist intent”:

“We know that FIFA prohibits such actions,” Gerardo Gorodischer, president of Chile’s Jewish community, told reporters Monday. “You cannot make a political claim and import the Middle East conflict using the platform of football, using the sport to lie and hate.”

Gorodischer is demanding an apology from the Santiago-based team, whose name in Spanish is Club Deportivo Palestino, and is asking Chile’s national soccer association to ban the shirts. . . .

On Tuesday, in a letter to the president of the Chilean National Football Association, the Simon Wiesenthal Center called for the Palestine FC to pay a penalty “for fomenting terrorist intent.”

And from the International Business Times:

“This act of smugness by the irresponsible mangers of Palestino is offensive to the whole Chilean Jewish community. It’s unprecedented,” tweeted Gabriel Zaliasnik, the former president of Chilean Jewish community (CJC).

Zaliasnik added that the shirt incited to violence and hatred, thus breaching Fifa regulations.

His successor at the head of CJC, Gerardo Gorodischer, has urged Chile’s football association to ban the shirt.

“We reject the import of the Middle East conflict in Chile,” Gorodischer tweeted.

The team was originally founded in 1920 by Palestinian immigrants to the country, and Chile now has one of the largest Palestinian communities in the world.

The JTA reports the Palestinian Federation of Chile issued a statement in response to the protest saying, “We reject the hypocrisy of those who blame this map but they talk about the occupied territory as disputed territory.”

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  1. Daniel Rich says:

    The accurate number 1 would consist only out of a few specks.

  2. amigo says:

    ““fomenting terrorist intent”:”

    F–k the whole Chilean Jewish community.

    • Basilio says:

      This group does not represent the whole Jewish community. They represent a political group, organization. We don’t have a poll of the community. I understand your anger, but let’s not use profanity against a whole group no matter how angry someone might be at any side. I do think more Jews need to wake up to the human rights situation caused by a certain state rather than being offended by a map. Would they rather the map showing what Palestinians have minus the settlements? That would look more offensive to other, perhaps.

  3. Mike_Konrad says:

    The team has an amazing history.

    It was founded in Osorno, Chile (South Chile) in 1920 by Palestinian immigrants and their sons.

    1920 ???!!!

    Even I have to admit that alone proves that Palestinian identity did NOT suddenly appear in 1964, as so many claim.

    These are some videos I translated.
    My Spanish is abysmal, so forgive any errors

    The Official Soccer Club Fight Song
    link to youtube.com

    They call themselves Baisanos because the Spanish word for fellow countrymen is Paisano but their Arab ancestors could not pronounce the P.

    The mispronunciation is now a matter of pride.

    THEY ARE VERY POLITICIZED AS THIS VIDEO I TRANSLATED SHOWS

    The claim support for Hamas and the Intifada.

    This next video is by someone else. They have broad support in Chile

    During games the fans show off green, white, red and black flare, the colors of the Palestinian flag.

    They have won NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS twice, in 1955 and 1978.

    Some of their players – Robert Bishara – are the sons of Palestinians. Bishara has played in both Chile and Palestine teams. Robert Bishara was born in Chile, but his father was born in the Mideast. I think his mother was a Chilean-born Palestinian. I think he has dual citizenship.

    Bishara is Catholic.

    Almost all, about 99+% of the Palestinians in Chile are Christian, mix of Antiochan Orthodox and Catholic.

    This is a big team in Chile, like America’s Notre Dame.

    The team is highly politicized, often having a moment of silence before each game for the victims of the latest war.

    The Palestinians are rich elites in Chile and run large parts of Chile’s industy and banking.

    The Palestinos send over players and coaches to coach soccer in the contested areas. Israel does interfere with that.

    A video of all their teams over six decades

    Originally, the members of the club had to have Palestinian ancestry. That rule has changed, but many still do. Roberto Bishara for example.

    I am not opposed to Israel …. but the existence of the Palestino Soccer Club proves that there was a Palestinian identity very early one.

    END PART I

    I will post more in a following post

    • but the existence of the Palestino Soccer Club proves that there was a Palestinian identity very early one.

      1920? i think palestinian identity started a wee bit earlier than that!

      • adele says:

        Annie,
        aren’t the Palestinians lucky to have someone like Mike Konrad to validate their identity? ;-)

      • Mike_Konrad says:

        There was an anti-Zionist newspaper called Filastin published in Jaffa in 1911 by Greek Orthodox Christian cousins (Isa and Yusef, Jesus and Joseph).

        I am Zionist – but I do not hew to the official narrative. This upsets other Zionists.

        On the other hand, I do not make the mistakes they make.

        For ex: I would never say Palestinian identity was invented in 1964 like Newt Gingrich said.

        You see, too many of my fellow Zionists fight over insignificant issues. I do not.

        —————–

        My view is simple: Right or wrong. Israel is there; and I do not want to dismantle or divide the only Jewish state on the planet.

        —————–
        As for Palestinian identity before 1964

        Club Deportivo Palestino (Palestinian Sports Club) was founded in 1920.
        So obviously Palestinian identity pre-existed long before the sixties.

        Yes, someone trots out a video of an Arab leader saying something stupid, as if politicians do not say stupid things.

        However …. and this is what pro-Palestinians can NOT deal with.

        The idea of a nation-state came about as the result of the American and French Revolutions. It was a West European idea.

        Palestinian identity was STRONG in Christian Palestinians; but it was very weak in Muslims. So it appeared among Christians, who were exposed to Western ideas, long before it coalesced in the Muslim community. Muslims originally just wanted a unified pan-Arab Caliphate. Their objection to Zionism was that it disrupted Muslim contiguity.

        The Christians were the ones with the strong sense of what a nation was.

        • puppies says:

          Ignorant BS re Palestinian and religious geographic notions. The people of the area have always firmly known that they are Palestinians, at any date. Official for the whole Empire since 300 BC. This including all Jewish residents before the Zionist Mythopoeia Victory. Anyone who did his humanities or any serious reader of Arabic could have told you as much. I am not so sure a confirmation by clueless ignorants is unwelcome, though; after all even the evolution of species has become a matter of belief by the same.

          • puppies says:

            PS – how typical that for a Zionist hardliner the only valid identity is a European nation-state identity. Who made that into some sine qua non condition in the Zionists’ kinky brains? The Zionist boobies will never understand that they started on the nation-state nonsense way too late, when it had already become a shameful disease. Be they Moslems or Christians or (pre-Zio) Jews or whatever, Byzantine or Ottoman subjects, or slaves of Crusaders or Zionists, Palestinians are still Palestinians. They don’t need to invent a [censored adjective]-style State for a mythical “people” because they have been securely Palestinian forever.

        • Inanna says:

          Bullshit Mike Konrad. Your attempt to use sectarianism to divide the Palestinian community is a very transparent one. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of Palestine before and during the Mandate knows that there were many prominent Muslims particularly in Jerusalem who led anti-zionist movements. There are several books out there on the origins of Palestinian nationalism that would contradict you. Go read them instead of regurgitating your wishful thinking.

        • Donald says:

          “However …. and this is what pro-Palestinians can NOT deal with.

          The idea of a nation-state came about as the result of the American and French Revolutions. It was a West European idea.”

          I have no problem with this. Nationalism of any sort is a rather dubious idea anyway, IMO, but set that aside. For some of us (the Americans at least), the problem is that Palestinians have been deprived of rights by the Israelis, with American assistance. If Palestinian nationalism was strongest among the Christians in the early days, (and I wouldn’t know), it doesn’t change anything. But Hostage below apparently disagrees with your history.

        • “Palestinian identity was STRONG in Christian Palestinians; but it was very weak in Muslims.”
          Nope! There was no difference whatsoever. I remember when very young being friends with Palestinians of both faiths and they both used to talk of themselves as Palestinians way before the absurd hasbara line of 1967.

        • “Yes, someone trots out a video of an Arab leader saying something stupid”
          It wasn’t stupid at all. It was an era of mounting Arab nationalism and every Arab identified as an Arab first. It was a way of saying there’s no Lebanese, Syrian, Egyptian or Iraqi, we’re all Arabs!! That’s doesn’t mean that one stops to be Lebanese, Syrian etc. It’s not unlike Israelis who would say, there’s no Ashkenasi, Misrahi or Yemeni Jews, we’re all Jews!

        • Theo says:

          Palestine identity before 1964?
          Just look at old 2,000 years old maps of the romans and greeks, you will see Palestine the same place it is today, a bit earlier than 1964.
          Since when do we have Israel on the map?

    • Peter in SF says:

      The Palestinians are rich elites in Chile and run large parts of Chile’s industy and banking.

      Careful, Mike! Saying such things about a Semitic minority is anti-Semitism!

  4. Interestingly, this club was created in 1920 under its current name. This puts to rest the claim that Palestinians didn’t call themselves that before the sixties.

    • Mike_Konrad says:

      Absolutely!

      But that was never an issue with me.

      —————–
      My view is simple: Right or wrong. Israel is there; and I do not want to dismantle or divide the only Jewish state on the planet.
      —————–
      I tell my fellow supporters of Israel to avoid weak arguments.

      CD (Club Deportivo/Sports Club) Palestino destroys a flawed argument that Palestinian identity is a recent invention.

      I am amazed that no one hit upon it sooner.

      I still support Israel, but I do so apart from the official narrative, which I believe is flawed.

      • RoHa says:

        “Israel is there; and I do not want to dismantle or divide the only Jewish state on the planet.”

        Since it is an evil state, why not?

      • seafoid says:

        “I do not want to dismantle or divide the only Jewish state on the planet.”

        Say GDP per head in JDisneyland falls to 50% of its current level.
        Would you force Jews to stay ?

    • Hostage says:

      Neville J. Mandel said that throughout the 19th century the Ottoman Government employed the term “Arz-i Filistin” (the “Land of Palestine” ) in official correspondence, and that it meant, for all intents and purposes, the area to the west of the River Jordan which became “Palestine” under the British in 1922.

      Mandel also pointed out that one of the pre-war newspapers, the Filastin, frequently carried articles that spoke about Palestine as a distinct national entity. He also noted that in 1914, a circular entitled “General Summons to Palestinians – Beware Zionist Danger” was distributed and published in the press. It warned that “Zionists want to settle in our country and expel us from it” and it was signed anonymously by “a Palestinian”. So there has never been any basis in reality for the Zionist myth that the term Palestinian wasn’t used or only applied to Jews before the 1960s. See Neville Mandel, The Arabs and Zionism before World War I, University of California Press, 1980, pages 127 and 220.

  5. Cliff says:

    Love it.

    The organized Jewish community is pathologically hysterical it seems. Whether the Zionists are based in America or elsewhere, it’s always this hysterical bizarre reaction.

    They are afraid of the Palestinian narrative getting press. They are afraid of Palestinian agency.

    They want us non-Jews to hate Arabs and Muslims and Palestinians and love Jews or at the least ignore the conflict.

    • pabelmont says:

      The team was called “Palestino” since 1920 and no Zio outburst. It took the flag, sorry the squiggle which replaces other fonts for the numeral “1″, to INCITE the hatred and maybe violence (from the Zios). Maybe I’ve been missing the point — that the incitement is an incitement of Zios, rather than to Palestinians an their friends.

    • seafoid says:

      They are really afraid of Palestinian identity. They have to keep Palestinians divided into 5 groups- “Israeli Arabs”, Qudsis/East Jerusalem, West Bankers, Gazans and refugees – in order for the system to work. In order for the Jewish state to exist. The Palestinians have to remain divided and voiceless.

      If there is any threat to that they lose the plot.

  6. pabelmont says:

    How can a strange-looking Number 1 (strange but very good looking!) on a futbol jersey be reasonably said to have “incited to violence and hatred”?

    Who exactly is being incited? Has any single person (or any multiple of people) ever been identified (by Chile’s Jewish elders) as exemplars who have shown any tendency toward ELEVATED LEVELS of violence AND hatred BECAUSE of these (very interesting) Jerseys?

    If not, there has been at most FAILED incitement. And how do you show an incitement which has failed to have any effect? In whose eyes is the incitement to be determined. It is “incitement” because I say it is? And who am “I” to make such a determination?

    I personally think that the FLAG and MAP of Israel (especially if the MAP fails to show the green-line and clearly distinguish ALL the occupied territories) are incitements to violence — they incite Israel soldiers and others! And the violence and hatred are clear to see. The incitement has worked. Plain as the nose on anyone’s face.

    • Mike_Konrad says:

      Who exactly is being incited? Has any single person (or any multiple of people) ever been identified (by Chile’s Jewish elders) as exemplars who have shown any tendency toward ELEVATED LEVELS of violence AND hatred BECAUSE of these (very interesting) Jerseys?

      Palestino fans claim support for Hamas at times
      link to facebook.com

      They support Hamas, as this video of theirs shows (WHICH I TRANSLATED)

      THIS CHILEAN CHARITY HAS BEEN CONNECTED TO HAMAS
      link to youtube.com

      THESE CHILEAN SOCCER FANS SHOW SUPPORT FOR HAMAS
      link to youtube.com

      THE PALESTIANS OF CHILE ARE VERY POLITICIZED
      link to youtube.com

      Forgive any translation errors of mine.

      But the Palestinians in Chile are an upper-middle class elite. They are swaying Chile, which is the economic powerhouse of South America

      Israel is worried about them.

      What amazes me is that 99% or more of them are Christian-Palestinians who fled Muslim tyranny in the 19th and early 20th centuries. YES! They forget that now.

      • who fled Muslim tyranny in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

        source?

        They support Hamas

        yeah,like the majority of palestinians who voted in the last election, otherwise they wouldn’t have won the election.

        • Mike_Konrad says:

          Annie Robbins

          Mike Konrad

          who fled Muslim tyranny in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

          source?

          There was a massive genocial massacre of Christians in the Lebanon/Syria area from around 1860.

          The French had to intervene to prevent extermination of the Maronites.

          Had the French not gone in, the Christians in Palestine would have been next.

          1860 article on genocide in the Mideast
          link to nytimes.com

          Had France not intervened Christians in in the Holy Land would have been destroyed.

          Around 1900, Christians started fleeing conscription. It was NOT safe to be a Christian in a Muslim Turkish army. The Turks also overtaxed Christian dhimmis.

          Annie Robbins

          Mike Konrad

          They support Hamas

          yeah,like the majority of palestinians who voted in the last election, otherwise they wouldn’t have won the election.

          For the Palestinians of Chile, who are 99+% Christian, to be supportive of an Islamic supremacist party is beyond measure stupid.

          Christians have died for being Christian under Hamas.

          Do not kid yourself. Whatever you think of Israel, Islam is no prize.

          THOSE CHRISTIANS FLED ISLAMIC TYRANNY IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.

          It is one thing to disagree with Israel, but to support Hamas is beyond belief.

          • the migration history of palestinian chileans link to en.wikipedia.org

            The earliest Palestinian migrants came in the 1850s during the Crimean War; they worked as businessmen and also in agriculture. Other migrants arrived during World War I and later the 1948 Palestine war.[2]

            history is not my forte, but i think the crimean war was a little more complicated than “muslim tyranny”.

            link to en.wikipedia.org

            The Crimean War …. was a conflict in which Russia lost to an alliance of France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and Sardinia. While neutral, Austria played a role in stopping the Russians.
            The immediate issue involved the rights of Christians in the Holy Land, which was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. The French promoted the rights of Catholics, while Russia promoted those of the Orthodox. The longer-term causes involved the decline of the Ottoman Empire, and the unwillingness of Britain and France to allow Russia to gain territory and power at Ottoman expense.
            ……..

            “was not the result of a calculated plan, nor even of hasty last-minute decisions made under stress. It was the consequence of more than two years of fatal blundering in slow-motion by inept statesmen who had months to reflect upon the actions they took. It arose from Napoleon’s search for prestige; Nicholas’s quest for control over the Straits; his naïve miscalculation of the probable reactions of the European powers; the failure of those powers to make their positions clear; and the pressure of public opinion in Britain and Constantinople at crucial moments.”[10]

            and certainly later migration , (” during World War I and later the 1948 Palestine war.“) cannot be pawned off on ‘muslim tyranny’. you can use all the bold and capitalization you want, but palestinian christians can also speak for themselves, link to mondoweiss.net

            Palestinians are treated as second-class citizens and lack a sense of belonging. They acutely feel a need for protection at all times within the state of Israel, whether they are Christians or not. Cabinet ministers and political groups explicitly advocate the transfer of Palestinians citizens and even population swap in order to maintain Israel’s Jewish majority.

            Discriminatory laws and initiatives are passed to prevent Palestinians from connecting to our history, culture, and religion. The infamous anti-Nakba law prohibits state funding to organizations that commemorate the dispossession and expulsion of over 700,000 Palestinians from 1947-1949. Segregation is endorsed in approximately 700 agricultural and community towns in Israel on the basis of “social unsuitability,” preventing Christian and Muslim Palestinians from living among the Jewish populations. Arab communities in the Naqab and the Galilee are subject to Judaization plans, non-violent Arab demonstrations against these policies are routinely dispersed with egregious and unnecessary force.

            anyway, the proof is in the pudding so to speak. and your conclusion, that palestinian christian (chileans or whomever) are ‘stupid’ for their politics regarding who they support or do not support, is irrelevant anyway.

          • puppies says:

            “THOSE CHRISTIANS FLED ISLAMIC TYRANNY IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.”
            I wish the site owner would sometimes damp down genocidal propaganda like yours instead of posts dissecting or opposing Zionism. Who in the Hasbara department invented that canard, now? Do they really believe the whole world is made of morons who can’t read? What “Islamic tyranny” under the Ottomans (hint: the Moslem peasants were the most oppressed.)

            “It is one thing to disagree with Israel, but to support Hamas is beyond belief.”
            Just the opposite. As long as they work toward dismantling the Zionist state they deserve support.

          • Inanna says:

            There was a massive genocial massacre of Christians in the Lebanon/Syria area from around 1860.

            Er, no Mike, what you are referring to is not a ‘genocial’ massacre but rather simmering tensions for several decades between families in Mount Lebanon that led to the strife of 1860. The families involved were Maronite and Druze. The Druze are a Muslim minority, considered heretical by many other Muslims. This was a situation of vendettas and reprisals, not genocide of Christians by Muslims. It did spread to Damascus but it also must be recognised that the massacres were quelled by the Muslim rulers of the time who ensured the Christians in Damascus were protected. Not exactly a genocide by Muslims. The French did not ‘intervene’, they worked with the Ottomans to broker sectarian rule in Lebanon. It was really a a re-assertion of Ottoman power in Syria (including what we know today as Lebanon) and the arrest and trial of the perpetrators.

            Dhimmi status was ended for both Christians and Jews in the middle of the 19th century so referring to the Christians as dhimmis in 1900 is incorrect. Many non-Muslim Ottoman subjects did flee conscription and their community leaders set up many objections to it such that it was incredibly unsuccessful.

            I think that you are so obsessed with this notion of ‘Islamic tyranny’ that you will combine wikipedia-level knowledge with assumed ignorance of your audience to spout incredibly ill-informed conclusions that are cringe-worthy. Please stop.

          • Walid says:

            Mike, the NYT letter about Ottoman Lebanon of 1860 is inaccurate. Taxation had nothing to do with the story. The American Consul that wrote it got his information wrong. The conflict was really between the French and the British that was played out by their Christian and Druze proxies with the Ottomans fanning the flames. After the Hasbaya massacre, France landed 6000 soldiers that went after the Druze. The Maronite Christians had been arrogant towards the Druze because they were under French protection since 1700 while the Druze had been armed and instigated to take on the Maronites by the British. The story is long and complex. It was only in 1943 that the Maronites quit their reliance on France’s protection in exchange for the Muslims giving up their plans to join a Greater Syria at Lebanon’s independence.

          • just says:

            To support the IOF and the Zionist government of Israel is “beyond belief”, imho.

        • gamal says:

          if you are interested in the events of 1860, this short piece touches on many aspects of the situation in the Levant that led to the massacres and pillage, the early role of Druze and Christian animosity in these events is briefly covered.

          link to asgalumni.com

      • pabelmont says:

        I am waiting, Mike Konrad, for any evidence of INCITEMENT by JERSEY.

        Of course, people support “their people” and especially support their “fighters”. Consider — as an example — the enormous support for the IDF in Israel and even in the USA! Not due to Jerseys, mind, but to a feeling of a need to STAND UP to an enemy.

        Now, of course, Israel is an enemy of the Palestinians — it deliberately and resolutely made itself so by springing into being in 1948 as a usurper of Palestinian lands and disrupter of Palestinian society and lives. But the support for Hamas (a charity but also a “stand up” patriotic group not always averse to violence) is completely natural — like USA’s Jews giving to JNF and supporting colonies (settlements).

        And none of it comes from JERSEYS. The JERSEYS do not incite. Israel incites by its progressive destruction of Palestine.

        • Mike_Konrad says:

          INCITEMENT BY JERSEY NO!

          But some fans support Intifada and Hamas. Look at the video.

          The Palestinians in Chile have been under fire from some time now for their strong anti-Israel view.

          The Jews of Chile – with justification – see this as the straw which broke the camel’s back.

          This, by the way, is flying all over the news.

          Chile’s Palestinian Federation is backing the club

          link to israelnationalnews.com

          Chile’s Palestinian Federation said in a statement Monday that it backs the club’s choice of the shirt.

          “We reject the hypocrisy of those who blame this map, but they talk about the occupied territory as disputed territory,” said the statement, quoted by The Washington Times.

          Wow!

          Both sides are itching for a major fight.

          I suspect CD Palestino will back down. FIFA will be brought in.

          However, even then, Israel has been raked over the coals for restrictions placed on Palestinian players in the disputed territories. (Click Here)

          This will get nasty because the Christian Palestinians of Chile are not uneducated Fellahin, but are highly educated elites in Chile.

          If Israel ups the stakes, they will meet and rise them.

          Personally, I do not care … this is a side show at best.

        • gamal says:

          De nada, Annie, for anyone reading the brief review of Mishaqa’s book one name leaps out, Sh. Abdul Qadir, obviously not Syrian and whose unwilling presence in the Levant was the result of French treachery of a very high order, as ever even wiki has a bit on him,
          link to en.wikipedia.org

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      “How can a strange-looking Number 1 (strange but very good looking!) on a futbol jersey be reasonably said to have “incited to violence and hatred”?”

      Because, to the zios, one must believe as they do or one is inciting violence and hatred (i.e., being antisemitic). Of course if you ask them to believe the way yiu do, that is also “antisemetic.”. That’s how that scam works.

  7. mondonut says:

    Hmmm…

    I keep looking and looking and I cannot find Israel on that map. Do you suppose the Palestinian’s mean that it should go away?

    • you mean like these guys disappeared palestine on their map? link to mondoweiss.net

      • mondonut says:

        Annie Robbins says: you mean like these guys disappeared palestine on their map?
        ========================================
        “Palestine” was not disappeared, the West Bank and Gaza were.

        • talknic says:

          @ mondonut “Palestine” was not disappeared, the West Bank and Gaza were

          No mention of Palestine on the JNF blue box. It says “Land of Israel”

          Have someone read it for you

    • ToivoS says:

      As long as Israel is unwilling to provide a map that outlines the state of Israel, then if I were a Palestinian I would willing to draw the map any way I see fit. It is up to you. Give us a map. Then maybe the Palestinians would be willing to respond. But, no, we all know that you have a secret map in your hearts that includes Israel from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean, that includes the Golan Heights, that includes the Sinai and Southern Lebanon South of the Litani River (or was that South of Beirut).

      As long as Zionists insist on maximal borders (without any international legal justification) I will encourage Palestinians to draw their maps showing all of the Palestinian Mandate as part of their nation.

      Dear Zionist, if you find this situation objectionable, then maybe you should just draw some lines on the map that the rest of the world accepts and call that Israel. Of course, we know that you cannot do that because you want all of that land.

    • Mike_Konrad says:

      mondonut

      I keep looking and looking and I cannot find Israel on that map. Do you suppose the Palestinian’s mean that it should go away?

      The Christian Palestinians of Chile have a long history of extraordinarily vehement anti-Israel politics.

      This is a major history of Palestinian in Chile
      link to fighthatred.com

      In 1947, Chile’s government was very pro-Zionist; but the Palestinian-Chileans were so rich and powerful, even then, that they were able to pressure Chile to abstain on the partition vote.

      One government officer was so furious that he resigned over it.

      link to fighthatred.com

      Chileans of Palestinian origin now boast some of the biggest fortunes in the country, heading no fewer than 4 of the 11 largest financial institutions in the country. A disproportionately high number of Palestinian-Chileans also serve in Chile’s congress, including four senators and a number of deputies. They also hold top positions in government – including officials in the Foreign Ministry and Presidential Palace, and have a strong presence in academic circles

      The Palestinian community showed its influence in 1947 when Chile was a strong supporter of the partition plan for Palestine at the United Nations. A group of first-generation Palestinian students in Chile created a strong lobby to convince the Chilean government to change its vote on the eve of November 29, 1947. Even being a member of the “Chilean Committee for a Jewish Palestine,” President Gonzalez Videla cast his lot with those who abstained in the General Assembly vote.

      Palestinians are only 3% of the country but have control over 36% of the biggest financial institutions.

      They can paralyze the Chilean government.

      So mondonut … you are right; but the jersey (camiseta) is only the straw which broke the camel’s back.

      THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING! The Palestinians of Chile have been anti-Semitic for a long time.

      Anti-Semitic? OH! Yeah!

      They held Masses for the Martyrs of Gaza in 2009.

      What idiocy was that . An orthodox priest saying Mass for Muslim martyrs?

      This is going to be a fierce collision, because the Palestinians of Chile are elites and can fight back.

      The Palestinian groups of Chile will lose however, because some of their rhetoric is borderline Nazi-like.

      • a blah chick says:

        “In 1947, Chile’s government was very pro-Zionist; but the Palestinian-Chileans were so rich and powerful, even then, that they were able to pressure Chile to abstain on the partition vote.”
        You mean rich members of an ethnic group lobby on behalf of their fellows overseas? Well, color me appalled! I am certainly glad we don’t have any of that stuff happen here!

      • talknic says:

        @Mike_Konrad Uh huh The Jabolinsky International Center. Reads like another Hasbara mouthpiece. Why am I not surprised…

      • Hostage says:

        The Christian Palestinians of Chile have a long history of extraordinarily vehement anti-Israel politics.

        Why shouldn’t they? Many of the Palestinians who had left the country during WWI, to avoid the fighting and persecution, were denied the fundamental human right to return to their own country of origin once the conflict was over.

        Their petitions to return were denied by the British Mandatory administration and it was backed-up by the representatives of the so-called “civilized world” serving on the League of Nations (LoN) Permanent Mandates Commission, e.g. — See The League of Nations Permanent Mandates Commission: Minutes, Volumes 11-13, page 194, “PETITIONS. A. Palestine.
        Petitions from Certain Turkish Subjects of Palestinian Origin, now living some in Honduras, others in Salvador, others in Mexico, & etc. dated April 3rd, June 10th, and September 10th, 1927.

        While those Palestinians were denationalized and had their right of residency revoked, the LoN and Great Britain concentrated their efforts on facilitating settlement of alien Jews who had never spent one day in Palestine before.

        Balfour noted in a memorandum from the Paris Peace Conference that the Anglo-French Declaration of 1919 had guaranteed Arab independence and support for governments freely chosen by the indigenous populations. –See Nº. 242. Memorandum by Mr. Balfour (Paris) respecting Syria, Palestine, and Mesopotamia’ [132187/2117/44A], August 11, 1919 link to scribd.com

        In 1929, the JTA reported that the petitions from Palestinian ex-patriots in Chile and other countries demanding a representative elected government were not considered, because they would violate the terms of the mandate if implemented:

        Telegrams received from Arab communities in Santiago, Chile and Paris, protesting against the Balfour Declaration, were not considered by the Permanent Mandates Commission of the League of Nations during its November session. The reason that these protests were considered unacceptable was that they were directed against the terms of the Mandate, the minutes of the Commission made public after presentation to the League Council, show

        William Rappard, was Rapporteur on the Palestine report, on the petition of the Moslem Christian Congress, claiming to represent all Arab parties in Palestine amalgamated in the Congress. The petition demanded the right to establish in Palestine a democratic parliament sysem of government, declaring that it was the duty of the League, after ten years of absolute colonial rule, to create a government system in Palestine similar to that of neighboring Arab countries, who enjoy certain forms of parliamentary government.

        The Palestine people cannot and will not tolerate the present absolute colonial system, the petition stated, and urgently insist upon the establishment of a representative body.

        M. Rappard recommended that the Mandates Commission, as trustees of the principles of the covenant and the Mandate, is not called upon to recommend any particular form of government in mandated territories, which only the Mandatory Power is entitled to determine. So long as the regime is not inconsistent with the covenant and the Mandate, it is not for the Commission to criticize. He further explained that if free democratic government were installed, the powers of the Mandatory government would disappear, causing a breach in the terms of the Mandate.
        link to jta.org

        Those actions by the OETA and Mandatory regime were considered violations of Article 46 of the 1907 Hague Convention at the time they were taken.

      • Inanna says:

        There’s many stupidities and inanities in this comment but I’ll just focus on this:

        The Palestinians of Chile have been anti-Semitic for a long time. Anti-Semitic? OH! Yeah! They held Masses for the Martyrs of Gaza in 2009. What idiocy was that . An orthodox priest saying Mass for Muslim martyrs? The Palestinian groups of Chile will lose however, because some of their rhetoric is borderline Nazi-like.

        which goes way over the line. It’s neither objectionable nor anti-semitic nor borderline Nazi-like for a Christian to pray for the dead of any religion nor to support the liberation of Palestinians from Israeli oppression. You’re so stuck in your own sectarianism that you cannot comprehend that Christians and Muslims (and Jews once upon a time) lived with each other for centuries with respect for each other’s traditions. It is a tradition in the Middle East for the different religions to invite each other to celebrate our holy days and to mourn our losses together. As a sign of respect during Ramadan, a Christian or Jew would not dream of eating publicly during the day. In the area where I grew up, Christian shopkeepers shut down on Fridays and Muslim shopkeepers shut down on Sundays. At Easter you will see Muslim clerics at Christian churches and Christian clerics celebrating Eid al-Adha. But instead of really understanding what goes on in the Middle East, you speak in massively wrong generalizations that are a vile calumny. And you are too ignorant to even begin to be ashamed of yourself.

    • puppies says:

      @ Mondonut: Excellent question. Part of the area on the map has been recognized as a state (by people giving away what wasn’t theirs to give, but we’ll pass that…) Part of it has been occupied and now annexed in fact. The rest of it is a daily narrowing mix of concentration camp and turkey-shoot gallery. The whole of it is Palestine, so called in the whole civilized world since (before) 300 BC.

    • “Do you suppose the Palestinian’s mean that it should go away?”
      Nothing wrong with that knowing that Israel was built on a land already taken by another people.

  8. seafoid says:

    Tremendous

    Of course some bot will come out and call them Auschwitz jerseys.

    • “Auschwitz jerseys”
      A journalist, Paul Sheehan wrote in the Sydney Morning Herald ( not a right wing rag) wrote 2 days ago about the 1967 borders referring to them as the indefensible Auschwitz line. New talking point it seems.

      • Walid says:

        The ingrained expression was coined in 1969 by Abba Eban that referred to the 67 border as the “Auschwitz line”. It was revived last week by Deputy Foreign Minister Zeev Elkin in talking about the Valley and any part of the WB that he felt must never be given up to avoid another Auschwitz. It’s used as an argument stopper, until the next movie is out.

        • seafoid says:

          It’s very like the boy who cried wolf.
          Or the woman who claimed she was the sexiest in the world.

        • Chu says:

          The Monuments Men, directed by Clooney, will be out soon enough. Then we can all remember Nazi’s and Auschwitz and have more canon fodder for Israel’s existence.

  9. Mike_Konrad says:

    The Soccer team is highly radicalized now, and their games are politicized. Fans were Keffeyiahs.

    But it does not end there:

    The Palestinians of Chile set up a very elite social club in 1938. In fact, they even made an arrangement with the British to recognize the club – probably as a sort of agent.

    AN ELITE SOCIAL CLUB IN DOWNTOWN SANTIAGO
    link to clubpalestino.cl

    Though Palestinians are only 3% of the country, they are 10% of the Chilean Senate.

    Some of them are nutty, like a Chilean Senator Eugenio Tuma (of Palestinian descent) who claimed the Mossad was trying to take over Patagonia.
    link to timesofisrael.com

    3/5ths of the Arabs in Chile are Palestian. There is a small Lebanese Maronite community which is neutral; and does not take sides.

    Israel is very upset at the Chilean Palestinians

    Chile’s Jewish community outraged over Palestinian soccer team’s jerseys
    link to washingtontimes.com

    Many in Chile’s Jewish community are outraged over a Palestinian soccer club’s jersey that depicts all of Israel as Palestinian land.

    Club Deportivo Palestino of Chile released its new jersey that includes the number “1” in the shape of Israel and the Palestinian territories, implying all of the land is Palestinian, The Associated Press reported.

    The president of Chile’s Jewish Community, Gerardo Gorodischer, is demanding an apology from the club and asking Chile’s soccer association to pull the jerseys.

    This has spilled over to Palestinian areas. Israel will interfere with soccer playing in the area

    STATE OF PLAY – Israel does interfere with Palestinian soccer

    The Palestinian Team in the contested areas brings in Chilean coaches.

    ——————————————————————————————–
    My opinion:

    This whole mess is tragic. I am very sympathetic to the difficulties faced by the Palestinians.

    HOWEVER … I am NOT willing that the only Jewish state on the planet be destroyed or divided to fix the situation.

    The answer – as awful as it is – is relocation of the Palestinians. The Palestinians should be compensated. South America has assimilated the Arabs. They could absorb the 1.5 Million in the contested areas.

    I know that sounds awful – and it is! But the destruction of the only Jewish state would be worse.

    There are NO happy solutions in the Mideast.

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      Screw that. Send the Zios to South America, if you love the idea so much. Otherwise it’s just another example of one of you zios apeing the Nazis.

    • Ron Edwards says:

      “Fans were Keffeyiahs.” Oh noooooo! It must be because they’ve been incited to intend to be terrorists. Because when I’m incited to intend to be a terrorist, you bet the first thing I do is run out to wear the right gear.

      Mike, let’s examine something: there is no Jewish state. The phrase is hot air, and always has been. For one thing, it has no meaning outside of Israel, there’s nothing in membership in the UN or recognition by the U.S. or any other nation concerning “the Jewish state.” It exists only in Israeli rhetoric. For another, it has no understandable meaning inside Israel either – everyone in there has to be Jewish? Or, everyone in there who’s not Jewish has to submit to legal inferiority? Or, 49% non-Jewish but no higher? Or, Jewish people world-wide are considered nationals (pending state-church approval)? Or what? No one in Israel can say, apparently – including whether this status is the case currently, or needs to become the case through some alteration of present circumstances.

      All this is made even more bizarre considering that no Israeli government has designated where the inside stops and the outside begins, but my point still stands no matter where one thinks those lines are.

      So precisely what in the world is it that you’re saying cannot possibly be sullied, to the point of ignoring *ordinary* justice for others? To the point of maintaining a straightforwardly fascist culture? To the point of literally being at war with the rest of the world?

      I’ll tell you what I think it is: privilege. It’s the butthurt cry of someone who enjoys privilege, justifies it with cries of victimization, and fears all scrutiny or accountability.

      • talknic says:

        @ Ron Edwards “considering that no Israeli government has designated where the inside stops and the outside begins”

        Don’t fall for repeating Israeli propaganda nonsense …. Israel’s only legal government [*], the provisional Government of Israel 1948 proclaimed the State of Israel ” as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″ link to trumanlibrary.org

        Israel was recognized as asked, within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947!

        * The Provisional Government tho legal, was not elected by Israelis. Israel has never had a legally elected Government, under a constitution. link to pages.citebite.com

        • Ron Edwards says:

          I get that. I’m referring to the subsequent land grab in 1948 and all other land grabs since, as well as the persistent refusal to acknowledge those 1947 borders in any way, or any eventual “this is far enough” borders. I don’t think you and I are disagreeing.

    • RoHa says:

      “I know that sounds awful – and it is! But the destruction of the only Jewish state would be worse.”

      No it wouldn’t. The Jewish State is an evil construct. Turning it into a respectable state for all its citizens would be good for everyone.

    • Kathleen says:

      “The answer – as awful as it is – is relocation of the Palestinians.”

      WTF

      • Citizen says:

        @Mike_Konrad
        Why relocate the Palestinians? Are they squatters? Under what internationally recognized law would anyone OK their relocation?

    • just says:

      MK– “relocate” yourselves!

      Y’all don’t have a “Jewish state”.

      • Citizen says:

        @ Just
        Truman sure didn’t think so when he recognized the state of Israel by letter. He crossed-out the adjective “Jewish.” Letter available online at Truman Library Archives.

    • Sumud says:

      The answer – as awful as it is – is relocation of the Palestinians.

      Less than a decade between “relocation of the jews” (Transfer Agreement) and ‘kill them all’ in nazi Germany.

      And the bots wonder why people don’t like them and their shitty little [supremacist] nation!

    • FreddyV says:

      “HOWEVER … I am NOT willing that the only Jewish state on the planet be destroyed or divided to fix the situation.

      The answer – as awful as it is – is relocation of the Palestinians. The Palestinians should be compensated. South America has assimilated the Arabs. They could absorb the 1.5 Million in the contested areas.”

      Mike, that’s some pretty evil stuff. One group shouldn’t have to be eradicated to serve the purpose of another’s existence, whoever the groups are. Doesn’t your moral compass tell you that?

      The answer lies in recognition and entitlement. The minute Zionists can admit they invaded and conquered another’s land, there’s a chance to move forward and give the Palestinians equal rights within Israel.

    • lyn117 says:

      There are people who deny the nazi holocaust, and then there are those who acknowledge it occurred, and also think it was a good thing. The one and only Aryan state should, after all, have remained pure.

      Mr. Konrad, since you lend support to mass killings of innocent people in order to purify Israel of it’s non-Jews, what is your moral argument against the mass killing of any other people, for the purpose of purifying a state some or most of its native people who are a different ethnic group than yours?

      • puppies says:

        “what is your moral argument against the mass killing of any other people”
        I’m not aware that he offered any opposition to the idea.

    • NickJOCW says:

      I know that sounds awful – and it is! But the destruction of the only Jewish state would be worse. I doubt the world would allow the destruction of the Jewish state, what is needed is for your Jewish state to get back behind its borders and stay there. Surely, all these problems arise largely from Israeli activities outside the Jewish state.

      • puppies says:

        “all these problems arise largely from Israeli activities outside the Jewish state.”
        You can’t be serious. Surely all problems arise out of a “Jewish state” concept.
        Also, remind me of anything worth mentioning left *outside the Jewish state.

    • a blah chick says:

      Mr. Konrad, it’s very simple. If Zionism cannot guarantee full human and civil rights to all the peoples living under its rule then it needs to go. Human beings should not have their rights abrogated simply to keep one elite tribe in power.

    • seafoid says:

      “The Soccer team is highly radicalized now, and their games are politicized. Fans were (sic) Keffeyiahs.”

      Jesus H Christ. They wear keffiyahs. I bet some of them are so radical they believe in human rights. Next thing they’ll be demanding votes for Palestinians. Off the page, that is.

    • “The answer – as awful as it is – is relocation of the Palestinians.”
      I have a better idea. How about you relocate? To Germany where you came from. Hmm?
      Psychopath!

  10. ritzl says:

    Assuming the same style of JNF blue boxes used here are also used in Chile, what do incitement and “fomenting terrorist intent” actually mean?

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      You don’t get it: The Palestinians claiming the land as Palestine is “antisemetic.” Calling the zios out when they claim all the land as israel is “antisemitic.” That’s how this scam works.

  11. Good job Peru!

    Soon we will hear that Peru is part of the “axis of evil” and having a nuclear program.

  12. Reds says:

    “Terrorist intent”

    If that’s terrorist intent then what do you call isrEli groups and officals who claim and produce maps showing from river to sea belonging to Israel? How about the people who openly claim the S Judia and Sameria?

  13. American says:

    ”The JTA reports the Palestinian Federation of Chile issued a statement in response to the protest saying, “We reject the hypocrisy of those who blame this map but they talk about the occupied territory as disputed territory.”

    Good.
    Didnt we have some coverage here a while ago about US Jewish sports team owners wanting to promote some kind of American Jewish Israeli sports team?
    Whats the difference?

  14. Mike_Konrad says:

    This site had even some odd comments (NOT MY SITE)

    HOW NEWT ENDED UP IN A PALESTINO JERSEY

    link to cinemaarabiata.com

    Months then years would pass before Newt Gingrich would claim during his run for the Republican nomination for the US presidency that the Palestinians are an invented people. I was naturally enraged, though I recognized that posturing for approval and for financial support of his campaign may have informed his observation. For some reason, I found myself casually looking online for content on Palestinian Chileans. That was when I learned of C. D. Palestino, a Chilean first division professional football club. Upon visiting the club’s web site, I was pleased to see images of the team depicting the words “Bank of Palestine” in Arabic and in English printed on its jersey (though I’d have been happier if it had been in Arabic and Spanish), suggesting an association between new and old country confirmed by the team’s intent, in 2009, to be listed on the Palestinian stock exchange4.

    Upon learning of the team’s genesis, I grinned with the satisfaction of the evident truth: Why would immigrants name a football club “Palestino” upon its founding, in 1920, if such identification didn’t mean anything to them, especially considering that such naming/founding had occurred twenty eight years before the founding of the Zionist state. The obvious answer is that these immigrant deliberately named the club because “Palestine” did mean something.

    I support Israel, but I am not so stupid as to say Palestinians are invented.

    But only of the nations can survive, in the end.

    Even Condoleeza Rice saw South America as a solution
    link to theguardian.com

    • Hostage says:

      Even Condoleeza Rice saw South America as a solution

      Some bad ideas just never get old:

      THE
      JEWISH STATE
      Theodor Herzl

      Should the Powers declare themselves willing to admit our sovereignty over a neutral piece of land, then the Society will enter into negotiations for the possession of this land. Here two territories come under consideration, Palestine and Argentine. In both countries important experiments in colonization have been made, though on the mistaken principle of a gradual infiltration of Jews. An infiltration is bound to end badly. It continues till the inevitable moment when the native population feels itself threatened, and forces the Government to stop a further influx of Jews. Immigration is consequently futile unless we have the sovereign right to continue such immigration.

      PALESTINE OR ARGENTINE?

      Shall we choose Palestine or Argentine? We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by Jewish public opinion. The Society will determine both these points.

      Argentine is one of the most fertile countries in the world, extends over a vast area, has a sparse population and a mild climate. The Argentine Republic would derive considerable profit from the cession of a portion of its territory to us. The present infiltration of Jews has [96]certainly produced some discontent, and it would be necessary to enlighten the Republic on the intrinsic difference of our new movement.
      link to gutenberg.org

      • Walid says:

        The concept of turning Palestine into a Jewish state was being pushed by the British before Herzl was born, in fact 56 years before Herzl book and about 20 years before Herzl was born.

  15. At the time the club was founded – 1920 – that WAS a map of Palestine.

    Interesting how large the Palestinian community has become in Chile. From one of the articles linked to above:

    Chile is home to one of the largest Palestinian communities in the world, with about 350,000 immigrants and their descendants.

    From Wikipedia:

    In the 2012 Chilean census, 16,294 Chilean residents listed their religion as Judaism. The actual Jewish community in Chile is estimated to be slightly larger.

    Not indulging in counting, but 350,000 out of a Chilean population of 17.5 million is significant. Wikipedia states, in the Demographics section of their main article on Chile that “Roughly 500,000 of Chile’s population is of full or partial Palestinian origin.” And the wikipedia article on the Palestinian diaspora, using the same 500,000 figure, lists the Chilean-Palestinian population as the fifth largest group in the world, following Palestine, Jordan, Israel and Syria.

    Learn something new every day.

    I don’t see where the incitement claim has any legitimacy.

  16. American says:

    “This act of smugness by the irresponsible mangers of Palestino is offensive to the whole Chilean Jewish community. It’s unprecedented,” tweeted Gabriel Zaliasnik, the former president of Chilean Jewish community (CJC).”

    Piffle!……whose smugness?…looks like theirs to me.
    If the Chilean Jewish community doesnt like it they can move to Israel where they dont have to see it…….I think this will be my stock reply to those who think what Jews take offense at determines the rules for all other people and countries.

  17. The Truth says:

    And Israel-supporters wonder why they are a laughing-stock across the world.

    Every stink these Israeli-support groups raise, makes the already popular Palestinian movement that much more popular.

  18. AlGhorear says:

    Where can I get one of those (very interesting) shirts?

  19. eljay says:

    >> On Tuesday, in a letter to the president of the Chilean National Football Association, the Simon Wiesenthal Center called for the Palestine FC to pay a penalty “for fomenting terrorist intent.”

    For over 60 years, Zio-supremacists have been fomenting terrorist intent in the name of their hateful and immoral ideology and their oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State”. I guess they don’t like it when other people do as they do rather than do as they say.

  20. pabelmont says:

    The so-called Auschwitz maps on the Jerseys only LOOK (to a lot of people, of course) like maps. They are actually squiggles representing ONEs. They are not labelled as maps.

    Hmmm, what’s a map?

    Speaking of maps, did you ever look at a figure depicting the ancient middle east, or the Roman Empire, or the Ottoman Empire, or the Palestine Mandate? Those places don’t exist today. Are those figures actually maps (in that case)?

    If someone merely draws the outline of it, without adding any names, rivers, cities, etc., how do you know that the figure [1] is a map and not a squiggle and [2] that it is a map (if indeed it is a map at all) OF something real, and if so [3] a map of what?

    Yassir Arafat used to wear his keffiyeh so it hung in a manner to suggest a map of Palestine (the Mandatory territory of 1946). Was it a map? If so, why not a map of today’s Greater Israel (leaving out the Zholan Heights and bits of Lebanon,of course)?

    In short, why do those perfervid Zios think that the squiggly ONEs on the futbol jerseys are maps of Palestine AND more of an incitement (to someone) than a map of Greater Israel is (to presumably someone else) despite the two squiggles being the same?

    I’d say that a map of Israel is pretty much an incitement to hatred and violence to anyone whose readiness for hatred and violence is likely to be set off by sch a symbol, but I’ve said that already.

    How long will the Zios refuse to admit the horror and suffering they have created and continue to increase, day-by-day? Until that day, they should have to look at Deportivo Palestino jerseys. It is the horror and suffering that are incitement to many things — including hatred and violence.

    • eljay says:

      >> In short, why do those perfervid Zios think that the squiggly ONEs on the futbol jerseys are maps of Palestine AND more of an incitement (to someone) than a map of Greater Israel is (to presumably someone else) despite the two squiggles being the same?

      Funny how those squiggly ones are a terroristic holocaustic anti-semitic wiped-off-the map, but this thing – which looks very much like a map of a colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State” – is just a sweet and innocent “representation of where the JNF’s projects were located”.

  21. pabelmont says:

    Speaking of incitement, what about those Israeli school books? wonder what maps they show? How green are the green lines? Are the so-called annexations of territory shown, suggested, claimed, denied. or ignored? The indivisible expanded Jerusalem? etc. Incitement.

  22. just says:

    And why on earth should these soccer players NOT celebrate their heritage?

    FIFA says no? I’ve never heard of that “rule”.

    Idiotic response by the “offended victims”.

    Oh and btw– some of Israel’s soccer and football teams have interesting logos:

    link to en.wikipedia.org

    link to soccerpins.nl

  23. Shuki says:

    Outrage over the absence of a line on a metal blue box

    Praise for depiction of palestine as all of Israel

  24. Hostage says:

    Outrage over the absence of a line on a metal blue box Praise for depiction of palestine as all of Israel

    Read the two articles again. 1) The map on the blue box was a representation of where the JNF’s active projects were located – and they are deeply involved in projects in the illegal settlements. 2) The Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Chilean Jewish community (CJC) are not expressing praise. 3) The Map on the football jerseys is not a representation of any criminal or terrorist activities. 4) The claim that the jerseys depict Palestine “as all of Israel” is a tautology.

  25. Chu says:

    “We know that FIFA prohibits such actions”.

    I searched this and 52 articles have popped up, mostly from Jewish sources.
    This must mean they are afraid of it’s success. -the reason they are so worried, is probably because they can’t do anything about it. On the surface it is only a map and I would like to see this go to court and have the
    Zionists argue that is using the jersey to ‘lie and hate’. Ridiculous.

  26. bijou says:

    Do they really believe the whole world is made of morons who can’t read?

    LOLOL. Apparently!