Schumer says Jewish and American interests on Iran deal differ but he has ‘to do what’s right for U.S.’

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NY Senator Charles Schumer told a New York Jewish audience a week ago that the U.S. and Israel have very different interests re a possible Iran deal and as a senator representing Americans, he may determine that the deal is in his country’s best interest. In a remarkably frank discussion of dual loyalty, he said his concern for Israel comes second.

“I have to do what’s right for the United States first of all, and Eretz Yisrael [the land of Israel] second.”

Schumer says his opposition to the deal has made President Obama “mad,” but then suggested he’s going to come around. He told the Jewish group that a military strike on Iran may not work, and could cause the deaths of “tens of thousands” of Israelis. A deal will give the United States greater control over Iran’s program than it would have without a deal.

People have been watching Schumer’s response to the Iran deal closely, because the powerful senator has, atypically, been very quiet about the matter. Though he has opposed Obama’s actions, with the support of the rightwing Israel lobby, his acceptance of the deal could bring a lot of the pro-Israel faction in the American Congress on board. In the speech the senator spoke of himself as a guardian of Israel– “someone who tries to be a shomer Israel”– and said it was one of the most “momentous” decisions of his political life.

He has consulted closely with Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Netanyahu and opposition leader Isaac Herzog, as well as getting five hours of briefings from Secretary of State John Kerry and Under Secretary Wendy Sherman.

The story was first reported in Haaretz. “In speech to Orthodox Union, one of the most pro-Israel Democrats seems to be gearing up to back Obama in abandoning the military option on Iran.”

Schumer was open about the issue of dual loyalty. He said that he wanted to speak bluntly to the Jews in the room (“tachlis”) but that because the speech is being recorded, he was going to be more nuanced. “Some things should be said in the mishpocheh,” he said. He went on to explain the difference between the American interest and a Jewish interest (or the interest of “many” Jews, as Schumer explains). If President Obama or the average American thinks there’s a 95 percent chance that the deal is good, they’ll sign off on it; but Jews, almost all of whom support Israel, won’t find a 5 percent margin comforting. So this is a case, Schumer says, where American interests and Jewish interests are dissimilar– “there is a basic difference in viewpoint”– which is why it’s been such a difficult question for him.

The worst case is that Iran would get a nuclear weapon, because it might use it against Israel:

If God forbid, a nuclear weapon were to be exploded over Jerusalem… a million would die and everyone else would leave, so the millennium old dream of the Jewish people to have a homeland in Eretz Israel, now 67 years old, would be gone.

But the threat to the U.S. from an Iranian nuke is “not an existential one.” But it would change the balance of power. The odds are all too high that the Sunni nations would want to get a nuclear weapon, and they have a willing seller in Pakistan.

Now the next worst situation is a military strike against Iran. Why?

First, it’s not clear that it would be successful. Second, Iranians would direct terror attacks against the US and Israel. And at the minimum they’d direct Hezbollah to send 10s of thousands of rockets into Israel.

The odds are tens of thousands of Israelis could die.

Schumer moved on to the idea of a deal and acknowledged that Jews and organized Jewish groups are leading the opposition to a deal. “Why doesn’t the world see this the way we see it?” he asked. Well, let’s say the agreement has a 95 percent chance of assuring that Iran won’t have nuclear weapons.

“If you are president of the United States, president of one of the European countries, or an American, an average American, you say that’s pretty good to me…

“But because a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to Israel, if you’re prime minister of Israel or an Israeli citizen or for that matter an American Jew or at least some American Jews, many, you say I can’t live with a 5 percent chance that Israel will be annihilated…. So there is a basic difference in viewpoint.”

Jews have to stand up for that different viewpoint, he said. Because in part for fear of being accused of dual loyalty, the American Jewish community “ignored the threat of Hitler, or pushed it aside–never mind, he’s just a maniac. And of course look what happened.” He said the New York Times covered up “the initial acts of depravity in Germany” because it didn’t want to be accused of dual loyalty.

For related reasons, Schumer doesn’t trust the Europeans.

Make no mistake about it, while the US sanctions are the toughest and most important, if the Europeans leave, and– it so bothers me to have the Jewish fate in European hands. People say have to please the French the Germans and the British. And the I tell them, we’ve been through this before, the Jewish people, of leaving our fate in the hands of Europeans.

He said anti-Semitism in Europe is equivalent to “racist anti-black sentiment” in America, it is deeply engrained.

Schumer said he is being very skeptical about the agreement as it moves forward, but he faulted Netanyahu for his obstructionist approach.

I have to tell you the day that Prime Minister Netanyahu came out, the day after the interim agreement. He made a mistake. He made a number of mistakes. Because no one thought he — He should have said, I have five or ten questions, I’m going to judge it on how those questions are answered.

Schumer then listed the questions he have. All are extremely detailed. First, what is the exact character of the inspection regime? Second, what actions cause the sanctions to be lifted? Third, Let’s say the sanctions are lifted, what are the snapback provisions; does the US need the allies or the UN to agree with us, or can the US restore sanctions on its own. Fourth, What are the inspections allowed on military sites? One is the size of Rhode Island. Fifth, what happens to the $100 billion that’s “sitting there” in frozen Iranian accounts because of the sanctions. Sixth, 10,000 kilograms of uranium goes down to what number, 300; and how much goes to Russia?

The senator has 14 pages of questions, he said, and has had five hours of briefings with top officials. He made it clear that the Jewish group would learn what he learns.

As I said, this is one of the most important decisions that I will ever make, as an American, as well as someone who tries to be a Shomer Yisrael. I’m spending much time on this, I’m talking to everyone, obviously including the administration and the prime minister of Israel. I’m talking to some very smart people on the other side. Bougi Herzog and [Amos] Yadlin, who was going to be the defense minister [in a Herzog led government], who’s very smart about these things…

I spent some time with Dr. Kissinger. I’m spending time with experts.

It’s a serious decision, and I’m an elected official 41 years. When you have the toughest decisions, you don’t let politics interfere, you don’t let party interfere, you don’t let pressure interfere, you do the right thing as best you can. That’s my promise to you. I assure you that’s what I’m going to do. It’s momentous times, ladies and gentlemen, momentous momentous times. The more I learn the more I’ll tell you.

Thanks to Scott Roth

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  1. hophmi
    June 10, 2015, 2:00 pm

    So if Jews care about the survival of their number (in the same way EVERY OTHER RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUP cares similarly), it’s an example of dual loyalty. Got it.

    • eljay
      June 10, 2015, 2:35 pm

      || hophmi: So if Jews care about the survival of their number … it’s an example of dual loyalty. ||

      Jewish and non-Jewish Americans are Americans – they should care about America. Jewish and non-Jewish Israelis are Israeli – they should care about Israel. Etc.

      Americans and Israelis (and others) should care about justice, accountability and equality, universally and consistently applied.

      • hophmi
        June 10, 2015, 3:32 pm

        “Jewish and non-Jewish Americans are Americans – they should care about America. ”

        And your evidence that they don’t is what, exactly? Is Israel the sum total of Jews in America? And why can’t Jews advance the position that support of Israel is in America’s best interest without facing antisemitic dual loyalty charges.

      • Shingo
        June 10, 2015, 6:46 pm

        And why can’t Jews advance the position that support of Israel is in America’s best interest without facing antisemitic dual loyalty charges.

        Because as Schumer points out, that is a lie and perpetuating a lie in service of a foreign country is treason.

      • eljay
        June 10, 2015, 9:41 pm

        || hophmi: And your evidence that they don’t is what, exactly? ||

        And where did I say that they don’t, exactly?

        || Is Israel the sum total of Jews in America? ||

        I don’t think it should be, but I don’t know whether or not it is. Is it?

        || And why can’t Jews advance the position that support of Israel is in America’s best interest without facing antisemitic dual loyalty charges. ||

        I guess it would depend on what exactly “advance the position” entails.

    • John O
      June 10, 2015, 2:52 pm

      And there was I thinking Judaism was a religion.

      • echinococcus
        June 10, 2015, 4:27 pm

        When you think that at the precise moment it arranges the Zionists, you’re right. Not otherwise.

      • just
        June 10, 2015, 4:35 pm

        +1, John O!

    • oldgeezer
      June 10, 2015, 2:56 pm

      @hophmi
      “EVERY OTHER RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUP”

      Your premise is flawed. I’d also like to see some evidence of your claim. How about white people for starters?

      • hophmi
        June 10, 2015, 3:30 pm

        “How about white people for starters?”

        White people are the majority. I’m speaking of minority groups; I should have mentioned that. But since we’re on the topic, yes, voluminous sociological data and voting pattern would suggest that white people too worry about the interests of white people.

        Would you dare say that African-Americans who say “Black Lives Matter” are more loyal to themselves than to the country? Would you dare say that Muslims who complain that the United States is responsible for too many Muslim deaths abroad are more loyal to Islam than they are to America? All Schumer is saying here is that Jewish lives matter and that Jewish lives are under threat. Jews who agree with him should not have to contend with antisemitic dual loyalty charges.

      • oldgeezer
        June 10, 2015, 7:34 pm

        @hophmi
        “voluminous sociological data and voting pattern would suggest that white people too worry about the interests of white people. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/schumer-american-interests#comment-147636

        Your usual cop out. What data? Where?

        I don’t have time to copy all your crap but no I wouldn’t accuse black people of that and no I wouldn’t accuse muslims of that. For that matter I wouldn’t accuse jews who made such statements.

        The dividing line is when you attempt to influence the policies of country A to it’s detriment in order to benefit country B’s interests.

        And don’t pretend that is not what is exactly being done. It’s not selling anymore. Don’t pretend many zionists do indeed have dual loyalties. Arguably not dual as zionists such as JeffB said he’d throw the US under the bus if Israel asked him to do something,

        Back on the white group thing… I would have thought that was easy. There are so many white supremacist groups you could have pointed to. They share the same values as you. They are knuckle dragging racists just like right wing zionists. Not to let liberal zionists off the hook as they are merely racists living in denial.

    • Annie Robbins
      June 10, 2015, 3:14 pm

      all this handwringing over the “survival” of one of the most militarized and violent societies on the planet. what chutzpa.

      and american jews? their survival seems to be coming along swimmingly.

      • ritzl
        June 10, 2015, 3:55 pm

        Yep.

      • Steve Grover
        June 10, 2015, 7:09 pm

        @Annie
        “and american jews? their survival seems to be coming along swimmingly.”
        Exactly, since the miraculous creation of Medinat Yisrael in 1948. And, it is now finally true for the vast majority of Jews in the world.

      • oldgeezer
        June 11, 2015, 12:21 am

        @Grover
        “Exactly, since the miraculous creation of Medinat Yisrael in 1948. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/schumer-american-interests#comment-147636

        There was no miracle, just a bunch of Jewish terrorist using market bombs and car bombs while killing women and children

    • ritzl
      June 10, 2015, 3:44 pm

      If it was all actually about group survival, you might have a minor point, hophmi.

      But it isn’t, and you don’t.

      This is about using the painstakingly-nurtured paranoia of a small group of well-publicized and/or powerful people to further the domestic political goals of a tiny foreign country — in direct, in-depth, and open coordination with that tiny foreign country.

      All to the detriment of the lives and livelihoods of 400,000,000 others not living in or associated with that tiny foreign country.

      I mean I drive daily over a literally crumbling bridge a few hundred feet from my house. I am not unique in that, neither locally nor nationally. It needs fixing before it collapses. Fixing it creates jobs here. It’s a real thing. Schumer doesn’t care, preferring instead to give my bridge to Israel by serving the interests of a country that never seems to be able to solve its own [self-created] problems (and in fact continues to create them, real and imagined, at an astounding rate).

      What’s the current euphemism in DC for something-glaringly-wrong-but-everyone-is-afraid-to-confront-it-directly? Bad optics?

      • pabelmont
        June 11, 2015, 9:12 am

        As to “paranoid speech” by Israeli leaders, media, etc., regarding “existential threat” of (putative) Iranian nukes.

        Arguably, and I so argue, it is not about actual paranoia of the Israeli leaders. They use “paranoid speech” to activate (actual) paranoia among some Israeli Jews ( ?? do Israeli Palestinians feel this paranoia, about Iranian nukes ?? do they believe that Iran would deliberately use a nuke to destroy the Haram Ash-Sherif ?? ) and of course to activate further “paranoid speech” world-wide in the Zionist claque (such as Hillel Int’l, AIPAC, Saban, Adelson, USA’s MSM, et al.). After all, people know which side their bread is buttered on, don’t they? And “paranoid speech” pays off, or has done so far.

    • Citizen
      June 10, 2015, 4:03 pm

      @ hophmi
      Really? You include David Duke? Got it.

    • jonrich111
      June 10, 2015, 11:55 pm

      @Hophmi,

      The difference is that Israel is a military superpower with the unconditional support of the most powerful military on the planet. Israel is armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. Iran’s supposed nuclear program is not an existential threat to Israel, as Israeli military intelligence has confirmed. Rather, Iran is a threat to Israel’s regional hegemony. Pressuring America to go to war with Iran in order to secure Israel’s regional domination is a clear-cut example of dual loyalty. That is what this is about: ensuring Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Iran is not an existential threat. That is why as a Jew, I support peace and diplomacy, not war.

    • RoHa
      June 11, 2015, 12:24 am

      “in the same way EVERY OTHER RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUP cares similarly”

      Can a group care if the members don’t?

      I recall seeing figures (can’t locate them now) showing that more than 50% of American women with Far Eastern ancestry* married men with a different ancestry. They do not seem to worry too much about the survival of their ethnic groups.

      I, of course, do not care about the survival of the white race of which I am a member. If whites disappeared by, say, interbreeding with the blacks, browns, yellows, or green-and-purple-paisley-patterns, or simply as a result of forgetting, in a moment of inattention, to breed at all, it would not worry me one whit.

      (*”Ancestry”, folks, not “heritage”.)

      • pabelmont
        June 11, 2015, 9:37 am

        RoHa, But if that moment of inattention *et al.) on the part of the “white race” were sufficiently prolonged, ther’d be no more (sputter, sputter) Beethovens, Spillanes, Goethes, Casals’s, Stalins, Hitlers, Bush-1, Bush2, Bush-3 (Jeb), Clinton-1, Clinton-2, Clinton-3 (hmm!). I seem a bit sidetracked here.

    • Jabberwocky
      June 11, 2015, 2:19 am

      Jews are a religious group and not an ethnic or racial group.

      The fact is that Zionists, whether Jewish or not, hold positions of influence in the US government and exercise that influence for the benefit of a foreign country.

      • eljay
        June 11, 2015, 7:54 am

        || Jabberwocky: Jews are a religious group and not an ethnic or racial group. ||

        Zio-supremacists will tell you that Jewish is a tribe, an ethnicity, a people, a culture, a nation and even a civilization. But when push comes to shove, they always fall back on Jewish being a religion-based identity. (And they’ll thump the Bible to prove it.)

        It’s the reason – or one of the reasons, anyway – why the “Jewish State” of Israel does not offer a bureaucratic nationality of “Jewish” to all of its citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees. Everyone gets to be Israeli, while “Jewish” is reserved for those who either:
        – undergo a religious conversion to Judaism; or
        – are descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion to Judaism.

  2. ritzl
    June 10, 2015, 2:03 pm

    Sounds like Schumer not only discussed dual-loyalty, but confirmed it.

    His country, the US, despite overwhelming evidence to support its transcending priority, after much agonizing by Schumer, came out only slightly ahead — for now.

    Unfit for high national office, imho.

    • just
      June 10, 2015, 2:26 pm

      Yep, ritzl.

      I am fascinated that a Senator who has been an “elected official” for 41 years finds this one of the most difficult decision of his life.

      He appears to continue to be an Israel- firster.

      “Schumer was a supporter of the Iraq War Resolution, is an American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) member, and a strident pro-Israel member of Congress, although he was very critical of President George W. Bush’s strategy in the Iraq War; he suggested that a commission of ex-generals be appointed to review it.[66] Nat Hentoff of the Village Voice has criticized Schumer for his stance on the issue of torture.[67]”

      (wiki)

      What other country has so many elected reps in Congress?

      Perhaps American anti- Castro Cubans.

      “He said the New York Times covered up “the initial acts of depravity in Germany” because it didn’t want to be accused of dual loyalty. ”

      Well, that’s an accusation that nobody has to worry about anymore, isn’t it? The NYT has made their allegiance and loyalty to Israel first abundantly clear.

      Thanks, Phil.

      PS~”… because the speech is being recorded, he was going to be more nuanced. “Some things should be said in the mishpocheh,” he said.”

      Ha. Wonder what his other constituents feel with that remark!

      “mishpachah – (Yiddish) the entire family network of relatives by blood or marriage (and sometimes close friends); “she invited the whole mishpocha””

      http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mishpachah

    • John Douglas
      June 10, 2015, 10:46 pm

      Sounds to me like Schumer is creating an image, “I’m an America firster, but I do love Israel (got that Sheldon?)” As preparation for higher office? I admired the young Schumer who led many good battles against the gun lobby. Now, I don’t think he’s an Israel firster, just a Schumer firster.

  3. RobertHenryEller
    June 10, 2015, 2:14 pm

    A nuclear armed Iran is as much or more an existential threat to Iran itself than a nuclear armed Iran is threat to Israel.

    Did Schumer bring that up with this audience?

  4. Kay24
    June 10, 2015, 2:59 pm

    What’s happening Charles? Koolaid wearing off or sanity prevailing?

    • just
      June 10, 2015, 3:20 pm

      I don’t see evidence of either, Kay. Do you?

      ‘The senator has 14 pages of questions, he said, and has had five hours of briefings with top officials. He made it clear that the Jewish group would learn what he learns.

      As I said, this is one of the most important decisions that I will ever make, as an American, as well as someone who tries to be a Shomer Yisrael. I’m spending much time on this, I’m talking to everyone, obviously including the administration and the prime minister of Israel. I’m talking to some very smart people on the other side. Bougi Herzog and [Amos] Yadlin, who was going to be the defense minister [in a Herzog led government], who’s very smart about these things…

      I spent some time with Dr. Kissinger. I’m spending time with experts.”

      Hmm. I guess the Senator can’t be bothered with wasting his time with Gentile “experts”. Nice to know that he spends heaps of his time on this, and not the myriad of other pressing and critical issues that face the US and his constituents. Perhaps he ought to consider becoming a ‘Shomer America’.

      • Kay24
        June 10, 2015, 4:30 pm

        I have no hope that Schumer or his ilk in Congress will do the right thing for this country when it comes to precious Israel (the eternal victim). Gentiles are not worthy of a consultation, only good for getting votes eh?

    • jeff_davis
      June 11, 2015, 12:58 pm

      Both he and Abe Foxman appear to sense that the wind is shifting.

  5. WH
    June 10, 2015, 3:09 pm

    ‘He told the Jewish group that a military strike on Iran may not work, and could cause the deaths of “tens of thousands” of Israelis.’

    Never mind how many Iranians die, of course.

    • just
      June 10, 2015, 3:21 pm

      +1, WH.

      It’s never part of the equation for pro- war, Islamophobic folks like Schumer.

      From 2011:

      “The recent call by U.S. Senator Charles Schumer for increased rail safety funding and the creation of a “no-ride” list for Amtrak trains is yet another reminder of just who is stoking fear of Muslims in America.

      In an interview last year with a Jewish radio talk show in New York, Senator Schumer said he believed that HaShem (an Orthodox Jewish term for “God”) gave him the name “Schumer” — which means “guardian” — so that he could fulfill his “very important” role in the U.S. Senate as a “guardian of Israel.” Presumably, Schumer’s God-given role also includes turning the country he is actually paid to represent — the United States — into an Islamophobic police state.”…

      http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/11/pro-israelis-turning-u-s-into-islamophobic-police-state/

      • hophmi
        June 10, 2015, 3:34 pm

        So, worrying about Israeli deaths makes me dually loyal, but worrying about Iranian deaths makes you pro-American, is that it?

      • echinococcus
        June 10, 2015, 4:17 pm

        hophmi,

        Not a bit. That would make him a decent human being who worries about humans; your worry makes you a selective tribal loyalist and you are totally off the track anyway, as the question was Schumacher’s worry about something totally different:

        He told the Jewish group that a military strike on Iran may not work, and could cause the deaths of “tens of thousands” of Israelis

      • Citizen
        June 10, 2015, 4:22 pm

        US would benefit from normalizing relations with Iran. So would Iran and Israel.

      • Shingo
        June 10, 2015, 6:57 pm

        So, worrying about Israeli deaths makes me dually loyal, but worrying about Iranian deaths makes you pro-American, is that it?

        Oh STFU Hop.

        It’s the Israeli foresters who have been pushing for war. No war means no deaths in either country GOT IT?

      • michelle
        June 11, 2015, 2:20 am

        .
        well one must consider the truth of the issue
        how many people were killed last year by Iran
        how many people were killed last year by Israel
        the year before and the year before ….
        how many have been maimed imprisoned starved
        how many children does Iran abuse each year
        .
        G-d Bless
        .

    • Citizen
      June 10, 2015, 4:18 pm

      Or Americans.

    • Giles
      June 11, 2015, 8:19 am

      ‘He told the Jewish group that a military strike on Iran may not work, and could cause the deaths of “tens of thousands” of Israelis.’

      Never mind how many Iranians die, of course.

      The most important point. How racist is this sick guy?

  6. lysias
    June 10, 2015, 3:43 pm

    Bernie Sanders just denied having dual citizenship. The Hill: Sanders blasts Internet ‘nonsense’: ‘I do not have dual citizenship with Israel’ (subscription required).

    • ritzl
      June 10, 2015, 4:14 pm

      Lysias, Sanders said he has visited Israel a couple of times. I remember reading (here iirc) an account of someone (Jewish) being automatically conferred Israeli citizenship upon entering the country. He was trying to give back his Israeli passport but was not allowed to do so.

      If that experience is true and relevant and Sen. Sanders has traveled to Israel, he may well be a dual-citizen. He may not want to be, but he may well be.

      Same situation for all the Jewish members if Congress.

      Hmmm. Interesting. Mostly because if all Jewish members if Congress whi have visited Israel are dual-citizens, it will be interesting to see how they sort it out.

      • echinococcus
        June 10, 2015, 4:22 pm

        Sanders has not only traveled there. He lived on a kibbutz for several months and was an enthusiastic Zionist.

      • a blah chick
        June 10, 2015, 4:39 pm

        My understanding, and I’m sure I will be corrected if wrong, is that you have to declare yourself as making aliyah for the citizenship. Maybe things were different when Sanders was there but if he went there as a tourist there should not be an issue.

        Isn’t Finkelstein barred from Israel for ten years? Also wasn’t the activist Adam Shapiro barred from being with his Palestinian wife when she was about to give birth? I don’t think they could be barred if they claimed ROR.

      • Jethro
        June 10, 2015, 7:04 pm
      • just
        June 10, 2015, 7:36 pm

        Perhaps this is who you’re thinking of, ritzl.

        Lenny Lapon:

        “Renouncing my Israeli citizenship

        On October 19, 2010 my plane landed in Israel and instantaneously I was awarded Israeli citizenship with identification card # 012706735, solely because I am Jewish. Through reflection and study I have come to realize that this act was a travesty of justice. There are several million Palestinians and their descendants who cannot enter and/or live and move freely in their native historical homeland.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/renouncing-israeli-citizenship#sthash.oQbnARDj.dpuf

      • echinococcus
        June 11, 2015, 12:26 am

        Jethro,

        In that case it’s the brother, not Bernie, who should be presidential candidate.

      • ritzl
        June 11, 2015, 4:23 am

        That’s it just! Jeez you’re amazing!

        Maybe it’s as a blah chick said, Mr. Lapon declared aliyah (wittingly or not) and Sanders didn’t. Or maybe the entry processor just checked the wrong box or thought Lapon looked like he wanted to make aliyah but couldn’t find the words.

        Phil Weiss had been there often. Is he a dual-citizen? I don’t remember him saying one way or the other.

      • ritzl
        June 11, 2015, 4:27 am

        Thanks for the clarification, a blah chick.

      • ckg
        June 11, 2015, 9:21 am

        It’s interesting that a few articles on this mention that Ms. Rehm is Arab-American, implying that her ethnicity is relevant–and thus a motive–to her lapse in good journalism. The Jewish Press headlines , “Arab-American Radio Host Bites the Dust with Lie on ‘Israeli’ Sanders”.

      • just
        June 11, 2015, 9:39 am

        Great observation, ckg. From your reference:

        “Arab-American radio host Diane Rehm falsely accused Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders of being a dual Israeli-American citizen and later apologized.

        Sanders expressed irritation at the accusation, which he immediately denied on air, but the echoes of anti-Semitism remain in the air.

        Rehm hosts her show on WAMU, affiliated with the NPR network. Sanders, who has visited Israel, is Jewish but mostly in name. The JewishPress.com pointed out here in April, he has no use for organized religion and cites Pope Francis as his guide.

        Thank God he is not an Israeli.

        But Rehm, an award-winning journalist, thought otherwise, based on nothing more than a Facebook post by Vittorio Arrigoni, who was an Italian activist and worked with the fiercely anti-Israel International Solidarity Movement (ISM).

        He held a Gaza passport given to him by Hamas’s de facto prime minister Ismail Haniyeh and acted as human shield for Gaza “fishermen,” some of whom fish for fish and some of whom shoot to kill Jews.”

        http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/arab-american-radio-host-bites-the-dust-with-lie-on-israeli-sanders/2015/06/11/

        Can somebody please tell me about the “Gaza fishermen, … some of whom shoot to kill Jews”? When do they use “human shields”? And what about ISM as “fiercely anti- Israel”?

        Not only is their website ugly, so are the lies they smear it with. Another hasbararag.

      • ckg
        June 11, 2015, 10:07 am

        @just, thanks. I don’t believe Rehm said where she found the misinformation on Facebook. The Jewish Press just assumes it’s from Vittorio Arrigoni. CAMERA just assumes it’s from Stormfront. I’ve personally encountered the unsourced rumor many places, and I don’t read Stormfront or similar sites.

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 11:24 am

        “But Rehm, an award-winning journalist, thought otherwise, based on nothing more than a Facebook post by Vittorio Arrigoni”
        The stuff about automatic citizenship for Jews landing in Israel is just pure non sense. For one, it doesn’t even make sense, since you have to prove you are Jewish before going to Israel. If you don’t do that you have to go through all the red tape in Israel. I have been there several times.
        Now, this type of craziness is common on the Internet. This is the same stuff as the birther movement, and of course, once the obsession sets in, it becomes dogma and nothing can shake it. If people want to believe that every Jew visiting Israel becomes a citizen, no amount of logic, evidence or common sense would convince them otherwise.
        That said, I believe what Rehm did is libel and should be punished. She didn’t ask it as a question but stated it as fact in a radio show. I am contacting Bernie Sanders to urge him to file a lawsuit against Rehm and NPR.

      • lysias
        June 11, 2015, 11:39 am

        Diane Rehm may have stated it as fact, but she presumably did so in good faith, actually believing it, and she did so in a situation where Sanders was able to deny it and did deny it.

        For a libel suit to succeed, Sanders would have to prove he suffered damage measurable in dollars, and it’s hard to see how he suffered such damage. In any case, Sanders, as a public figure who is now running for president, would appear to be a classic case of the kind of public figure who, under the Supreme Court case of New York Times v. Sullivan, has to prove that a false and damaging statement about him was made with “actual malice” before he can win a libel suit.

      • just
        June 11, 2015, 11:47 am

        @ catalan:

        “That said, I believe what Rehm did is libel and should be punished. She didn’t ask it as a question but stated it as fact in a radio show. I am contacting Bernie Sanders to urge him to file a lawsuit against Rehm and NPR.”

        “libel
        [ ˈlībəl ]
        NOUN
        law
        a published false statement that is damaging to a person’s reputation; a written defamation. Compare with slander.
        synonyms: defamation · defamation of character · character assassination · More”

        (Oxford)

        So you think that having dualUS/Israeli citizenship is so darn awful that asking about it is libelous?

        No “libel”. He was present and ready, able, and willing to refute her.

        You go right ahead though. Write to Bernie and tell him how you feel. He’ll laugh at you, too!

        “The stuff about automatic citizenship for Jews landing in Israel is just pure non sense. For one, it doesn’t even make sense, since you have to prove you are Jewish before going to Israel. If you don’t do that you have to go through all the red tape in Israel. I have been there several times.”

        Ah, ok. You are, after all, the self- designated resident expert on all things. From accounting to circumcision, etc.

        “Acquisition of citizenship[edit]

        Law of Return[edit]
        The Law of Return grants all Jews the right to immigrate to Israel and almost automatic Israeli citizenship upon arrival in Israel.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_nationality_law

      • Annie Robbins
        June 11, 2015, 11:50 am

        “…almost automatic Israeli citizenship upon arrival in Israel” – See more at: link to en.wikipedia.org

        horrors! sue wiki for defamation! punish them!

      • talknic
        June 11, 2015, 11:50 am

        Hey catalan get your guide dog to read what you wrote and explain it to you

        “The stuff about automatic citizenship for Jews landing in Israel is just pure non sense. For one, it doesn’t even make sense, since you have to prove you are Jewish before going to Israel.

        If you don’t do that you have to go through all the red tape in Israel.”

        But if they’re Jews landing in Israel, they’re … uh …. Jews!

        ” If people want to believe that every Jew visiting Israel becomes a citizen..”

        Where was “every” Jew stated?

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 12:26 pm

        “But if they’re Jews landing in Israel, they’re … uh …. Jews! – ” talknic
        Just like Birthers believe Obama was born in Kenya, people such as yourself will believe their conspiracy theories. That’s why I am suggesting that Bernie file a lawsuit for libel and defamation. Let Diane explain in court how Jews landing in Israel get this purported citizenship.
        I can argue with some person whether the rainbow is a physical effect due to the properties of light and he will still believe that it was caused by the beautiful goddess who passed by his village and left him a sign that a male baby is on the way. Facts to you and facts to me just don’t overlap.
        There is no automatic citizenship bestowed on Jews when they arrive in Israel. I suppose anything can happen occasionally, human errors occur, that’s what I do for a living, looking for human errors.
        Nonetheless, legally, there is a series of steps that has to be undertaken prior to a person obtaining citizenship in Israel.

      • Jethro
        June 11, 2015, 12:29 pm

        Strangely, the United States allows its elected officials in Congress to hold dual citizenship. Since that is the case, verified information about the citizenship status of our officials should be publicly available, but it is not.

        This is the reason these discussions always veer off into conspiracy theory and bullshit accusations of bigotry; the information is not public.

        Of course, the best course of action is to not allow elected officials to hold dual citizenship, like Israel does. Seems like no-brainer.

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 12:51 pm

        The Law of Return grants all Jews the right to immigrate to Israel and almost automatic Israeli citizenship upon arrival in Israel.” –
        The key word is “almost”. I was almost hit by a car a few times, but here I am, unhurt. The almost part is key, it means that you have to apply for it. Sure, if you have the documentation, and you apply for it, you will probably get it. But it doesn’t happen in some mysterious way, without you knowing.
        As to whether it is damaging, of course it is. This will now become the main thing about his campaign. There are enough people who dislike Jews enough not to vote for them as President. Just like they harassed Obama for his Kenyan birth, Sanders will now be the “Jewish” candidate. If it was said with intent to damage reputation, it is libel. As to whether he will laugh at it, I don’t know, I hope not. This type of thing should be attacked head on.
        Just, by the way, I am glad that you think one had to be an expert to oppose removal of clitoris and vagina of young girls because it is dirty and also makes them unfaithful. I thought it’s just common sense and empathy but apparently I need to be an MD.

      • just
        June 11, 2015, 1:25 pm

        “It is not “whataboutery” and is very different from male circumcision, especially the one practiced in American hospitals under proper medical conditions (scalpels are not used).” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/catalan#sthash.AWnchmwB.dpuf

        I’m referring to your above comment. One which, btw, Kris quite rightly dispelled as myth.

        (PS~ the vagina is not removed in barbaric FGM. But hey, you’re the expert.)

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 1:34 pm

        “I’m referring to your above comment. One which, btw, Kris quite rightly dispelled as myth”
        Just, removal of the foreskin is not as invasive as FGM. In fact, it is thought to have some positive health effects related to chances of UTI. FGM of the type practiced in Egypt and across North Africa is a true unmitigated horror. Indeed, UNICEF has a very long explanation of it, which also states that the comparison to male circumcision is harmful and minimizes the brutality of this surgery.
        But by all means, let’s wait till Jews worldwide and many Muslims in Turkey and Europe stop curcumcision of boys till anything is done about FGM.
        I have truly lost my faith in humanity seeing that anyone would do that to a girl and that white western liberals defend it or compare it to circumcusion. It’s a tragedy. But please don’t take my word for it. There is plenty of information on FGM on the Internet. Why not read it before hurling accusations?

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 1:45 pm

        “but i am very glad she asks him because it should put the rumor about him to rest. -”
        But why should he have to respond to rumors. If I put a list of a group of Muslim Americans who donate to ISIS, which I pulled out if my hat, should they have to respond to it? Don’t you see how wrong it is to ask a person a question like that? You don’t of course and play all coy and how it doesn’t matter. But oh my, all hell breaks loose if some Muslim is on the other end of this. Classic passive aggressive behavior. “It’s such an innocent question” yeah right.

      • Annie Robbins
        June 11, 2015, 2:26 pm

        why should he have to respond to rumors

        no one has to respond. i’m really not comprehending your whole approach to this issue. you act like dual citizenship is a crime. is that what you think of it?

        is asking if someone is israeli on a radio show akin to asking them if they are members of a terrorist organization?

        But oh my, all hell breaks loose if some Muslim is on the other end of this.

        you’ve got a lot of nerve. jewish americans do not suffer the kind of state sponsored paranoia and persecution the arab americans community suffers in this country. dragging members of holy land foundation thru numerous court proceedings and imprisoning them on trumped up charges. spying on mosques. pllease!!! throw a pity party why don’t you.

      • just
        June 11, 2015, 2:25 pm

        @ catalan June 11, 2015, 1:45 pm:

        apples and oranges, catalan. I’m sure that you won’t see that, though.

      • talknic
        June 20, 2015, 6:33 am

        @ catalan

        //“But if they’re Jews landing in Israel, they’re … uh …. Jews! – ” talknic//

        “Just like Birthers believe Obama was born in Kenya, people such as yourself will believe their conspiracy theories”

        Sorry pal. I don’t do conspiracy theories. If if they’re Jews landing in Israel, they’re Jews. You wrote it yourself

        The stuff about automatic citizenship for Jews landing in Israel is just pure non sense. For one, it doesn’t even make sense, since you have to prove you are Jewish before going to Israel. If you don’t do that you have to go through all the red tape in Israel.

        “There is no automatic citizenship bestowed on Jews when they arrive in Israel”

        All Jews have a right to citizenship in Israel http://pages.citebite.com/j2i2x2i6a5ruf

        ” human errors occur, that’s what I do for a living, looking for human errors”

        Look in a mirror

        “Nonetheless, legally, there is a series of steps that has to be undertaken prior to a person obtaining citizenship in Israel. “

        Indeed. Same as any country. However only Israel opens the gates of the homeland wide to every Jew regardless of their current citizenship or whether they actually have ties to the land or not or even any Jewish DNA or not http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/2.209/chinese-jewish-descendants-start-a-new-life-in-israel-1.5637

    • echinococcus
      June 10, 2015, 4:19 pm

      That’s good to hear, pending confirmation. I don’t find particularly credible a guy who willingly takes on the role of shepherd dog to bring back to the Democratic fold the so-called liberals, with a prenup already signed saying he’ll bring the votes to Clinton II.

    • Kris
      June 10, 2015, 4:28 pm

      Thanks for the link, lysias. I was able to read the story without a subscription.

    • yonah fredman
      June 10, 2015, 5:19 pm

      Diane Rehm has someone on her staff who is either malicious or incompetent.

    • just
      June 11, 2015, 2:13 pm

      @ catalan’s “I have truly lost my faith in humanity seeing that anyone would do that to a girl and that white western liberals defend it or compare it to circumcusion. It’s a tragedy. But please don’t take my word for it. There is plenty of information on FGM on the Internet. Why not read it before hurling accusations? ”

      Who is defending FGM?? What “accusations” went “hurling” at you?

      You are one of the most disingenuous, least skilled contortionists currently availing themselves of the graciousness of MW. And thanks, I know plenty about FGM. Who are you calling “white western liberals” anyway? Nice bigotry/racism there.

      Bye.

      • Annie Robbins
        June 11, 2015, 3:37 pm

        most disingenuous, least skilled contortionists currently availing themselves of the graciousness of MW.

        frankly i am ready for a rotation. too much worthless spam/diversion clogging up the threads with this one.

      • catalan
        June 11, 2015, 5:52 pm

        “too much worthless spam/diversion clogging up the threads – ”
        The tide is turning, the Zionists are in retreat, BDS is winning. The Palestinians will shortly be free. Yet all this anger. What gives?

      • Annie Robbins
        June 11, 2015, 6:31 pm

        Yet all this anger. What gives?

        what anger are you referring? in an environment where the slaughter of children routinely goes unpunished and unaccounted for, nothing you’ve ever said has given rise to my anger. you’re a mere distraction.

        The Palestinians will shortly be free.

        uh huh.

    • eljay
      June 11, 2015, 2:42 pm

      || lysias: … The Hill: Sanders blasts Internet ‘nonsense’: ‘I do not have dual citizenship with Israel’ (subscription required). ||

      UPDATE #2, 6 p.m.: The National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) attacked Rehm’s “completely indefensible” questions in a statement released on Wednesday evening.

      “It is appalling that in today’s age, a longtime Jewish elected official would face implications that he splits his loyalty between the United States and Israel for no reason other than his religion,” said Greg Rosenbaum, chair of the NJDC’s board of directors.

      Funny how Jewish – which Zio-supremacists routinely point out is so much more than just a religion – always ends up being defended as a religion.

      Mr. Rosenbaum could have been appalled by the implication that Mr. Sanders splits his loyalty because of his tribe or his nation.

      Or Mr. Rosenbaum could have defended Mr. Sanders by saying that just because the Jewish people are Mr. Sanders’ people and the “Jewish State” is Mr. Sanders’ “historic homeland” and the only place in the world where he can truly be safe, that’s no reason to imply that he has dual loyalty.

      • just
        June 11, 2015, 3:04 pm

        +1, eljay!

        Thanks.

  7. Rusty Pipes
    June 10, 2015, 3:57 pm

    No matter what his seniority, Schumer still is not demonstrating a commitment to representing the concerns of the spectrum of Democrats in New York, much less in the rest of the country. Surely there are other Democrats more able to fill the role of Senate minority (or majority) leader.

  8. Kay24
    June 10, 2015, 4:37 pm

    SOMEONE HAS BEEN SPYING ON THOSE IRANIAN TALKS. Any Guesses?
    Who can be so devious, scheming, and mean enough to do so?

    “WASHINGTON (AP) — A cybersecurity firm with close ties to Russian intelligence said Wednesday it uncovered a cyber-espionage campaign targeting hotels that hosted Iran nuclear negotiations, the details of which are among the most closely held secrets in world diplomacy.

    The firm, Kaspersky, said the malware was so sophisticated that it must have been created by a government. Citing former U.S. intelligence officials, The Wall Street Journal attributed the spying to Israel, which opposes the emerging nuclear deal being hammered out by the U.S., Russia, several other European countries and Iran. Negotiators hope to clinch an agreement by the end of the month to curb Iran’s nuclear activity for a decade in exchange for billions of dollars in sanctions relief.

    A former senior U.S. intelligence official who dealt with such matters told The Associated Press that the nuclear talks are a likely espionage target of several countries, including Israel and Russia. The former official said he couldn’t be quoted on the record and demanded anonymity.

    The Israeli government declined comment Wednesday.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/10/iran-nuclear-talks-israel-spying-kaspersky_n_7553530.html

    • lysias
      June 10, 2015, 4:48 pm

      If it was the Russians who were doing the spying, would Kaspersky have revealed it? (If memory serves, it was Kaspersky that first broke the story of the joint U.S.-Israeli Stuxnet cyberattack on Iran.)

      • Kay24
        June 10, 2015, 4:58 pm

        I guess it might be easier than we thought to find the culprits. :))

      • Rusty Pipes
        June 10, 2015, 8:11 pm

        In an interview on BBC today, the Kaspersky person was suggesting it was Israel because the spyware used was similar to the Stuxnet that was co-designed by Israel and the US.

      • Annie Robbins
        June 10, 2015, 9:31 pm

        SOMEONE HAS BEEN SPYING ON THOSE IRANIAN TALKS. Any Guesses? – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/schumer-american-interests/comment-page-1#comment-773583

        it’s the same Israel spying story that hit the news last march, right before the deadline in the p5+1 talks. we reported it here: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/scandal-negotiation-deadline
        but at the time they didn’t know how they found out the info.

        WSJ reported today http://www.wsj.com/articles/spy-virus-linked-to-israel-targeted-hotels-used-for-iran-nuclear-talks-1433937601

        “U.S. intelligence agencies view Duqu infections as Israeli spy operations, former U.S. officials said. While the new virus bore no overt links to Israel, it was so complex and borrowed so heavily from Duqu that it “could not have been created by anyone without access to the original Duqu source code,” Kaspersky writes in its report.”

        “To check his conclusions, Mr. Raiu a few weeks ago emailed his findings to a friend, Boldizsár Bencsáth, a researcher at Budapest University of Technology and Economics’ Laboratory of Cryptography and System Security. Mr. Bencsáth in 2011 helped discover the original Duqu virus.
        “They look extremely similar,” Mr. Bencsáth said in an interview Tuesday. He estimated a team of 10 people would take more than two years to build such a clean copycat, unless they were the original author.”

      • Annie Robbins
        June 10, 2015, 9:40 pm

        If it was the Russians who were doing the spying, would Kaspersky have revealed it?

        the russians would likely not have been spying on the iran talks since they are one of the countries in the p5+1 and privy to the negotiations already.

        also, the way they got thru to the hotels was by originally targeting Kaspersky lab. the lab is close to russian intel, so it seems rather counter productive for russian intel give a virus to a security company they work with.

  9. Qualtrough
    June 10, 2015, 6:29 pm

    Now the next worst situation is a military strike against Iran. Why?

    First, it’s not clear that it would be successful. Second, Iranians would direct terror attacks against the US and Israel. And at the minimum they’d direct Hezbollah to send 10s of thousands of rockets into Israel.

    The odds are tens of thousands of Israelis could die.

    So if the Iranians retaliate for an unprovoked attack that’s terrorism, and the big worry is that some Israelis might die? This is Schumer’s thought process?

    • Kay24
      June 11, 2015, 6:57 am

      You got it. Notice they don’t give a damn that any attack by the US (zionist’s dream) will cause the deaths of thousands of innocent Iranians? Notice any American leader showing remorse that we murdered thousands of Iraqis?

      • Citizen
        June 11, 2015, 8:03 am

        Between 48,000 and 751,000 Iraqis died as a result of the US-led invasion. About 5,000 allied troops died; cost to USA is in the trillions. And now Likud GOP wants to do Iran. And also put boots back on the ground in Iraq. Obama just sent about 500 back there; we now have more trainers there than there are willing Iraqis to train.

      • Citizen
        June 11, 2015, 9:13 am
      • Kay24
        June 11, 2015, 10:05 am

        We seem never to learn lessons from our mistakes of the past. If we held the war criminals who lied to us and dragged us into unnecessary wars, tried them and sentenced them, then it would be a deterrent for those war hungry leaders in the future. No one pays for such blunders, or deliberate lies to wage these wars.

        As for Israel, it plays the devious role of spying, giving intelligence that might be flawed, getting their minions to sell the war, and then sits back and enjoys the fireworks (which does not cost them any precious Israeli lives). They do not have to do a thing to kill civilians in the nations they are insecure about.

    • diasp0ra
      June 11, 2015, 11:45 am

      It’s almost as if there is a double standard or something ;)

    • oldgeezer
      June 11, 2015, 1:32 pm

      He doesn’t seem particularly concerned with US deaths given the emphasis in his words.

  10. Citizen
    June 11, 2015, 8:05 am

    How many boots on ground in Syria now?

  11. eusebio
    June 11, 2015, 9:22 am

    It´s time to leam and rethink both people deserve the right to self determination and sovereignty and advancing human rights university

  12. Lillian Rosengarten
    June 11, 2015, 10:25 am

    I feel I have to respond. Although Schumer is a Zionist, he is to be commended for supporting the agreement together with the EU with Iran. We need to mobilize international pressure and the churches to say to Israel: OK it is one country but the one state you created cannot be an apartheid state . It has to be a bi-National democratic state for all.This will never happen from inside Israel but unified voices against apartheid.

  13. just
    June 11, 2015, 5:06 pm

    Interesting article:

    “What they don’t tell you about Israel’s famously tight airport security

    A few months ago, I was sitting in the terminal at Ben Gurion International Airport, in Tel Aviv, reading a fellow traveler’s account of flying out of Israel. I’d heard horror stories of strip searches and endless lines. I was curious what I was really up against.

    I wasn’t surprised to learn security is top-notch.

    After all, I had already been searched and questioned twice, once through the window of my taxi and again before the terminal doors. All this and I hadn’t even entered the airport yet.

    But then I read about the stickers.

    I learned that before any passenger ever gives up his luggage to the fine folks at Ben Gurion International, an employee places a neon yellow sticker on the back of your passport. On it is a 10-digit number. The first number, ranging from one to six, indicates your perceived threat level to whomever else you’re passed along.

    I got a five.

    After I got back, I relayed this story to some friends who were more experienced traveling to and from Israel. My ego deflated a little to learn I didn’t actually seem threatening, just more suspicious than average.

    For one, I’m not Jewish. That automatically raises some red flags in a country fraught with religious and cultural conflicts. I was also on assignment as a reporter, traveling alone, without so much as an estranged second cousin I could say I knew. The profiling alarms had to be blaring.

    Looking back, I’m not sure I want to know what would have happened if I’d gotten a six.

    As Lia Tarachansky wrote back in 2010 for Mondoweiss, while a one rating “is awesome,” a six indicates that “you’re f—–.” It appears to be reserved for Palestinians, Muslims, and hostile internationals.

    Extreme, yes. But effective.

    No flight leaving Ben Gurion has ever been hijacked, and the airline servicing Israel, El Al, hasn’t seen an attack in more than 30 years.”…

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-israels-famously-tight-175954628.html

    He loses it with the last bit, imho. But he probably made some folks sit up and take notice…

    (Kudos on the MW link to Lia’s article, btw!)

  14. hank
    June 11, 2015, 6:29 pm

    I sent the following to Sen. Schumer in February:

    As a co-religionist and life-long Democrat (whose first vote was for Harry Truman), I have long been concerned with your public statement that God had put you into the US Senate to defend Israel. Even while I acknowledge the political pressures you are subject to, that concern has been amplified by your support of PM Netanyahu’s egregiously offensive disrespect of your President, exemplified by your plan to attend the PM’s speech to Congress, and by the non-sequitur statement that the PM has “the right” to speak here. I believe there is serious reason to question your ability to represent this country’s interests in any matter involving Israel. The same could be said of many of your Jewish colleagues in Congress.

    I would like to make a Quixotic proposal (which you will find outrageous) to relieve both the self-contradictions in US policy regarding Israel created by lobby pressure, and what I hopefully assume is the discomfort experienced by Jewish legislators who feel compelled to support policies they privately oppose: they should voluntarily recuse themselves from involvement in any matter pertaining to Israel, on the grounds of a disqualifying conflict of interest. A judge experiencing only a fraction of such conflict would be expected to divorce himself from a case.

    The Netanyahu Affair has thrown a harsh light on this subject. Over the years, I have encountered a great deal of subterranean unease – among both Jews and Gentiles – concerning our unquestioning support of Israel (and by inference, of the deaths of thousands of Palestinians). As you know, there has been a sharp global rise in anti-Semitism in parallel to increasing hostility towards Israel. Within the last few weeks, it appears to have become more acceptable to voice such concerns openly here. Can you be morally certain that your policies will not one day be judged to have made anti-Semitism respectable in this country as well?

    Respectfully.

  15. PeaceThroughJustice
    June 11, 2015, 8:10 pm

    US senator says he has to do what’s right for the US. What else did you expect him to say? This is the setup. There’s plenty of time to come up with a detail that he knows will be unacceptable to the Iranians.

    Not a chance in hell he’s ever going to back a US rapprochement with Israel’s rival.

  16. hank
    June 12, 2015, 2:02 am

    Annie Robbins: No response, nor have I ever received a meaningful response (addressing the questions I raised) to a single one of the countless letters I’ve addressed to U.S .Government officials during my eighty-eight years. Regards.

  17. Shingo
    June 12, 2015, 7:10 am

    As I said you sound just like the Jew hater David Duke. You can see for yourself.

    And as I said you sound just like the goy hater, Caroline Glick.

  18. irwinpenny18
    July 26, 2015, 10:28 pm

    I can’t wait until this asshole Schumer loses his senate seat in the next election.

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