Israeli ‘chutzpah’ versus Palestinian ‘sumud’

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In his book “The Joys of Yiddish” (1968), Leo Rosten writes that “the classic definition of chutzpa is, of course, this: Chutzpa is that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan. A chuzpanik may be defined as the man who shouts “Help! Help!” while beating you up.”

Chutzpah is a term in both Yiddish and Hebrew. Whilst in pre-Israel times it may have been a term mostly regarded with negativity, the Zionist settlement in Palestine and the establishment of a Jewish State with borders that became undefined and continuously expanding, came to give this term an aura of actual virtue in the eyes of many Israelis. Chutzpah, in Israeli national terms, would come to be known as a necessary ingredient to get by and grow. Israel’s second Prime Minister Moshe Sharett noted this aspect clearly: “I have learned that the state of Israel cannot be ruled in our generation without deceit and adventurism. These are historical facts that cannot be altered. . . In the end, history will justify both the stratagems and deceit and the acts of adventurism”. (In Simha Flapan, The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities and partially at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. )

Israel’s Chutzpah at the national level, shouting “help! Help!” whilst beating Palestinians up, could be seen in vivid colors last year, when a video from the weekly Friday protest at Nabi Saleh on 28th August 2015 went viral. In the video, a fully armed and masked Israeli soldier is seen picking out a boy of 12 (minute 2:00) who has a broken arm in a cast, grappling him and pressing him down on a rock, on his broken arm. The boy’s sister and mother come to his rescue and, unarmed of course, attempt to rescue the boy from the soldier’s hold. This situation was an iconic portrayal of the egregious balance of power, where the boy is inarguably a victim. But no – Minister of Culture and Sport Miri Regev was “shocked to see the video this morning of Palestinians hitting an IDF soldier,” adding that, “It cannot be that our soldiers will be sent on missions with their hands tied behind their backs. It’s simply a disgrace!…. We must immediately order that a soldier under attack be able to return fire. Period.”

So – the soldiers are the victims. Their hands are tied behind their backs. Help the soldiers! Whilst they beat up Palestinian children with already broken limbs. In addition – we must allow them to go further and shoot at unarmed civilians – family – who are trying to come to the rescue. If Leo Rosten’s definition of Chutzpah was correct, then Israel had established it as a policy on national level.

The Palestinians, as a subjugated and militarily-inferior occupied party, had to historically apply a mirror antidote to this Chutzpah. Against the policy of harassment and regular dispossession, they had to apply the attitude of steadfastness. This is the meaning of Sumud.

The term Sumud has become enshrined in the Palestinian nationalist awareness particularly since 1967. Palestinians had come to experience the Nakba, the Catastrophe of wide-scale ethnic cleansing in 1948, where many were violently dispossessed or fled due to fear of violence and were not allowed return. Whilst the typical Zionist myth says that ‘Arab leaders called upon them to flee and await the victory by Arab armies’, an IDF document found in 1985 in the archive of former Mapam member Aharon Cohen (died 1985) reveals the true main causes for this flight.

IDF Intelligence Service document is entitled “The Emigration of the Arabs of Palestine in the Period 1/12/1947 – 1/6/1948”, dated 30 June 1948. The document details 11 factors which caused the exodus, and lists them “in order of importance”:

1. Direct, hostile Jewish [ Haganah/IDF ] operations against Arab settlements.
2. The effect of our [Haganah/IDF] hostile operations against nearby [Arab] settlements… (… especially the fall of large neighbouring centers).
3. Operation of [Jewish] dissidents [ Irgun Tzvai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Yisrael]
4. Orders and decrees by Arab institutions and gangs [irregulars].
5. Jewish whispering operations [psychological warfare], aimed at frightening away Arab inhabitants.
6. Ultimate expulsion orders [by Jewish forces]
7. Fear of Jewish [retaliatory] response [following] major Arab attack on Jews.
8. The appearance of gangs [irregular Arab forces] and non-local fighters in the vicinity of a village.
9. Fear of Arab invasion and its consequences [mainly near the borders].
10. Isolated Arab villages in purely [predominantly] Jewish areas.
11. Various local factors and general fear of the future.

(The document is cited in Benny Morris, 1948 and After).

Thus we can see that the first and foremost amongst the causes for the flight of Palestinians in 1948, as also regarded by Israeli military intelligence sources, has been “direct hostile Jewish operations” (indeed also before the declaration of the State of Israel 14th May 1948 and before the invasion of allied Arab armies – for by that time, about a third of the to-be 750,000 Palestinian refugees were already dispossessed).

The Palestinians knew better than anyone else that there was a looming danger in the occupation. They did not need to wait for the declassification of archives and the slow process of recognition of Israel’s Chutzpah. In 1967, the new Israeli occupation which the Israeli generals widely regarded as “finishing the job of 1948” presented for them a situation which was a ‘second chance’, and maybe the last – to defend their very existence in historical Palestine. Failure to remain steadfast in the face of Israel’s new military occupation, would mean a new dispossession, and eventual erasure from the land.

This Sumud is not just a passive element. Whilst its prime symbol is the olive tree representing ancient connection to the land (hence the devastating symbolism in the many olive tree uprootings by Israeli occupation forces and settlers), it also has an active element – active resistance. Yasser Arafat noted in mid 1980’s that “the most important element in the Palestinian program is holding onto the land. Holding onto the land and not warfare alone. Warfare comes at a different level. If you only fight – that is a tragedy. If you fight and emigrate – that is a tragedy. The basis is that you hold on and fight. The important thing is that you hold onto the land and afterward – combat.” (From Schultz and Hammer, The Palestinian Diaspora).

The Palestinians have engaged in various forms of resistance, some involving no armed confrontation whatsoever. Perhaps the most non-physical means of protest that Palestinians have been able to apply in recent times is the BDS – Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. This is a democratic, nonviolent means of protest, which has track record of being successful in Apartheid South Africa. Noam Chomsky, in his most recent interview from two days ago on Democracy Now! says that “as to the tactics of boycott and divestment, they make perfect sense…. Boycott and sanctions make perfectly good sense when these tactics are properly applied, as they often are.”

But Israel has been investing many millions of dollars in an attempt to counter the BDS, and has been pushing forth anti-BDS legislation via its lobbies in other countries. . Recently, an anti-BDS conference hosted by the mainstream newspaper Yediot Aharonot, featured Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz saying that Israel should engage in “targeted civil eliminations” of BDS leaders with the help of Israeli intelligence, whilst BDS founder Omar Barghouti was mentioned several times in regards to the intent of the government to revoke his Israeli residency permit. Interior Minister Aryeh Deri noted, interestingly, that “The revoking of citizenship or residency is a tool that is hardly ever used because it constitutes a human rights violation”, and yet mooted that concern on the basis that Barghouti was morally reprehensible, as it were, saying: “he [Barghouti] was given rights similar to those of a citizen and he took advantage of our enlightened state to portray us as the most horrible state in the world”.  . Deri said that he was “inclined to fulfill” a request he had received from a far-right Israeli member of parliament to revoke Barghouti’s permanent residency. Barghouti’s status is now “under consideration” and Israel has refused to renew his travel permit.

This is the fight that Palestinians are to endure with Sumud, if they are to remain. Israel may consider efforts to confront its subjugation as a Chutzpah in itself – how dare they resist? – whilst it engages in ever more inventive stratagems of deceit, to be able to continue its adventurism in the frontier of Greater Israel.

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Postscript:

One might predictably want to ask the question, “Why is the steadfastness only attributed to the Palestinians? Where’s the Israeli steadfastness? Why so one-sided?” Well, here’s my answer: in the comparison of the two, the balance of power is simply lopsided, to put it mildly. The Palestinians do not possess tanks, fighter jets, helicopter gunships or nuclear weapons. They simply do not pose an existential threat. Aye, Israeli leaders often seek to conflate the Palestinians with “nearby hostile Arab countries” and claim for that “existential danger”, but not only is that besides the point – it doesn’t hold either. Even Iran, a (non-Arab) regional giant, whilst being repeatedly accused by Netanyahu for being an existential danger, has been pointed out by Israel’s top security experts to simply not pose any real existential danger.

The same was in 1967 – whilst promoting the hysterical “2nd Holocaust” fear in the public, Israel’s leadership knew full well (and concurred with CIA on this, former Mossad chief Meir Amit notes), that it would win, against all regional enemies, and quickly so – they assessed it would take about 7-10 days (the lower figure assessed if Israel took out Egyptian air force first, which it did in starting the war). (See Tom Segev, 1967, and for the Amit assessment of ‘7 days’ see link. 
So regardless of the fact that Israel doesn’t face a regional existential threat for real, its power relationship vis-a-vis Palestinians is not even something to consider in this respect. For all practical purposes, the power relations between Israel and the Palestinians are resembled by that scene of the fully armed soldier holding down the boy with the broken arm.

It may be that regional players may seek to come to the rescue of that boy out of solidarity – and they may sometimes come armed – that was the situation in 1948 – but even then, Israel was by far superior in personnel, organisation and weaponry to what the Arab armies had mounted altogether. (See Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine).
In 1973, Egypt and Syria indeed managed to press Israel for a short while, due to the surprise element of a holiday (and probably some Israeli nonchalance). It was enough for a scare, Sadat didn’t apparently intend to get very far in Sinai to demonstrate force. It won him Sinai back – the language of force broke the Israeli intransigence.

But to return to the Palestinians – all other regional enmity can be traced back to this, and it is well known that the regional states are very willing to regulate relations with Israel in return for a solution for the Palestinians under international concensus guidelines (UN 242). But that is simply not Israel’s plan, and Israel’s schemes for the Greater Israel mean the Palestinians are in the way.

So in the larger scheme, in the larger political scheme, it is very much like Ben-Gurion noted already back in 1938: “When we say that the Arabs are the aggressors and we defend ourselves —- that is only half the truth. As regards our security and life we defend ourselves. . . . But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict, which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves.” That is why the Chutzpah is addressed rather one-sidedly to Israel, and Sumud to the Palestinians. It’s a certain generalisation, but in general, it is not Chutzpah to resist oppression. As Ghandi noted, it is not  considered violence, when a victim of rape fights against her rapist. She is resisting the act of violence. Her act is “in itself an act of non-violence”. It is the act of rape that is the actual violence. (See Norman Finkelstein, What Ghandi Says).
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  1. eljay
    May 18, 2016, 11:50 am

    In his book “The Joys of Yiddish” (1968), Leo Rosten writes that “the classic definition of chutzpa is, of course, this: Chutzpa is that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan. A chuzpanik may be defined as the man who shouts “Help! Help!” while beating you up.” …

    Israel is the quintessential aggressor-victim: An unapologetically oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist state that for decades and with impunity has been committing (war) crimes and flouting and ignoring its obligations under international law, all the while claiming victimhood.

    The shoot-and-cry incident involving the deliberate summary execution of an injured and incapacitated non-Jew by a “Jewish State” goon is only the most recent example.

  2. hophmi
    May 18, 2016, 2:52 pm

    “Israel’s leadership knew full well (and concurred with CIA on this, former Mossad chief Meir Amit notes), that it would win, against all regional enemies, and quickly so”

    Oh please. So Israeli leaders thought that they would win. They were confident. So were the Egyptians and the Syrians, who broadcast genocidal anti-Jewish messages over the radio.

    • johneill
      May 18, 2016, 9:50 pm

      to ‘know full-well’ is not to ‘think’. i.e. to the israelis it wasn’t a battle – much less an existential one – than an opportunity.

    • zaid
      May 18, 2016, 11:26 pm

      I am sure you have a link to this recording, or maybe i am wrong !

  3. Boomer
    May 18, 2016, 4:33 pm

    The second chart here places Israel as the most “confrontational” society. No surprise. I’ve seen a “gooey-eyed Zionist” write that he loves Israel, but wouldn’t want to live there. A Jew can say that without being considered anti-semetic, I guess.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/11/the-secret-to-disagreeing-with-people-from-20-different-countries-in-one-chart/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_wb-disagree-830a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    • brent
      May 19, 2016, 2:49 pm

      Many Palestinian actions are more confrontations than demonstrations.

      Actual demonstrations, with placards detailing political demands, then submitting to arrest when lines are crossed have proved effective elsewhere. Photographs of the placards would reach the Western mind.

      Non-violence diminishes the “security” argument that has captured Western politicians and doesn’t undermine the work of the activist support system.

      • Mooser
        May 20, 2016, 12:39 am

        “with placards detailing political demands, “

        “brent” if I am not mistaken, there are plenty of “placards’ and posters. Check the links from commenter “Dan Walsh”. They are interesting and inspiring.

        Uh, all that “submitting to arrest”

        (“In a couple of days they come and
        Take me away
        But the press let the story leak
        And when the radical priest
        Come to get me released
        We was all on the cover of Newsweek”)

        usually takes place in the context of a society which has constitutional rights, a right to petition the government, freedom of assembly, which the arrested demonstrators can appeal to, provided timely access to a court proceeding. I don’t think such is the case in Israel for Palestinians.

  4. ohplease
    May 18, 2016, 6:24 pm

    1. Direct, hostile Jewish [ Haganah/IDF ] operations against Arab settlements.

    Mr. Ofir interprets this as hostility against civilians, when it’s clearly against the ALA insofar as they were based in villages throughout Palestine.

    Civilians flee during fighting, not because of a massive call on Arab leaders to flee (I’m not denying the Nakba, so relax), but because civilians flee during fighting. Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.

    On another note, I’ve read Pappe’s book. Perhaps someone on the far left here can explain to me why it’s the veritable Bible of progressives on this conflict?

    It’s shrill, assumptive, and emotive, aside from being a shady analysis of events. I wasn’t impressed at all by it, and I’m not sure why people take it at face value. Perhaps it pays to be a little more critical of all sources, pro or con?

    • amigo
      May 18, 2016, 6:43 pm

      “Civilians flee during fighting, not because of a massive call on Arab leaders to flee (I’m not denying the Nakba, so relax), but because civilians flee during fighting. Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.” oh please

      Yes they do , but most are allowed to return to their homes as is required under international law.

      Nice try though.

      • ohplease
        May 18, 2016, 10:17 pm

        Israel offered to take back the refugees as part of a comprehensive peace plan with the states surrounding it – as part of a general peace that included the whole region with mutual recognition. The Arab states said no, and so the refugees were left in limbo.

        Any chance there can be an exchange on here without biting sarcasm and snark?

      • talknic
        May 18, 2016, 10:53 pm

        @ ohplease May 18, 2016, 10:17 pm

        “Israel offered to take back the refugees as part of a comprehensive peace plan with the states surrounding it – as part of a general peace that included the whole region with mutual recognition. The Arab states said no, and so the refugees were left in limbo”

        Any chance of a source for your assertion so one can see what Israel actually offered? … I’ll wait”

      • just
        May 18, 2016, 11:13 pm

        I’d be pleased to wait with you, talknic.

        (it could take forever)

      • Marnie
        May 19, 2016, 12:23 am

        “Any chance there can be an exchange on here without biting sarcasm and snark?”

        Oh puhleeeeeze, and considering your introduction, don’t hold your breath. Or hold your breath, your choice.

      • amigo
        May 19, 2016, 1:53 pm

        “Any chance there can be an exchange on here without biting sarcasm and snark? ” ohpulllease

        Tell you what, you drop the zionist hasbara propaganda and we will drop the sarcasm and snark , aka truth.

        Chutzpah is a zionist demanding to be treated with respect while he/she insults peoples intelligence with worn out tiresome zionist twaddle.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 2:23 pm

        “Tell you what, you drop the zionist hasbara propaganda and we will drop the sarcasm and snark , aka truth. ”

        I actually didn’t engage in hasbara. I never denied the Nakba, and I’m well aware of atrocities committed by the IDF. I simply analyzed the top reason for civilian flight. IDF attack villages because of ALA units there. That’s different than a massacre of civilians like at Deir Yassin and others where the motivation was primarily to terrorize.

        The problem here is anything that casts Israel in a positive light is by definition zionist hasbara propaganda according to you and others.

        Your one-sideness and lack of balance are evident in this.

        So I interpret hasbara as figleafing the occupation or claiming the nakba was only because of arab leaders telling palestinians to leave.

        But the spirit of this site is anything good Israel does is hasbara because Israel can’t do anything good.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 2:47 pm

        The problem here is anything that casts Israel in a positive light is by definition zionist hasbara propaganda according to you and others.

        do you know what the definition of hasbara is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_(Israel)

        Public diplomacy in Israel (also hasbara, Hebrew: הַסְבָּרָה‎ hasbará, “explaining”) refers to public relations efforts to disseminate abroad positive information or propaganda about the State of Israel and its actions.[1][2] The term is used by the Israeli government and its supporters to describe efforts to explain government policies and promote Israel in the face of negative press, and to counter what they see as delegitimisation of Israel around the world. Hasbara means “explanation”, and is also a euphemism for propaganda.[3][4][5][6]

        hasbara is, by definition, intended to casts Israel in a positive light (“public relations efforts to disseminate abroad positive information“). it’s not just “according to you and others” it’s also according to the israel government.

        I actually didn’t engage in hasbara

        oh please!

        IDF attack villages because of ALA units there.

        denial is not a river in egypt. jewish forces attacked villages to clear them of non jews so they could make a majority jewish state. it’s called ethnic cleansing and it’s a war crime.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 3:06 pm

        Annie you are engaging in semantics. You take the govt definition and apply it to the entire possible spectrum of any discussion.

        I am disagreeing with Jonathan Ofir’s analysis of a primary source. I am not handing out ZOA leaflets with soundbites.

        According to this reducto ad absurdium definition of hasbara, even Ilan Pappe is guilty of hasbara when he gives Israel credit for doing X bad things instead of X + 1 bad things.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 5:36 pm

        You take the govt definition and apply it to the entire possible spectrum of any discussion.

        no i did not. i posted the wiki quote which included both the gov posture as well as common usage at the end. this is a political website therefore the spectrum of commentary tends towards the political. if you can’t win the argument you won’t win by accusing me of “engaging in semantics” when i post an official as well as common definition.

        I am disagreeing with Jonathan Ofir’s analysis of a primary source.

        really? by making up false facts (soundbites like israel said they’d take in the refugees arab states being responsible for palestinians in limbo)? like i said earlier — your archives are available to everyone. i’ll hand it to you tho, you’re not handing out leaflets.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 3:10 pm

        IDF attack villages because of ALA units there.

        denial is not a river in egypt. jewish forces attacked villages to clear them of non jews so they could make a majority jewish state. it’s called ethnic cleansing and it’s a war crime.

        Ilan Pappe’s interpretation of Plan D. Which is clearly an article of faith for believers here.

        Scholarly debate of Plan D intent:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet#Controversy_about_intent

        It would be interesting to read plan dalet in the original hebrew, as I could see for myself exactly what all the new historians are squabbling about and make my own personal conclusion free of any historian’s lens from the right or left.

      • MHughes976
        May 19, 2016, 3:37 pm

        The right to leave one’s home and return to it without anyone’s permission is not contingent on international negotiations. A government that excludes people from their homes because other governments won’t agree to something is barbarous and wicked.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 4:52 pm

        it’s also a war crime. and no amount of “reducto ad absurdium” hasbara will change that.

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2016, 6:15 pm

        “you won’t win by accusing me of “engaging in semantics”

        Look at the bright side! “ohplease” is not accusing you of being antisemantic!

        I must have missed something. What’s the “ALA”?

      • gamal
        May 19, 2016, 6:40 pm

        “Scholarly debate of Plan D intent:

        “link to en.wikipedia.org”

        you call that scholarly, this is scholarly

        http://www.jmcc.org/documents/Plan-Dalet-Master-Plan-for-the-Conquest-of-Palestine-by-Walid-Khalidi.pdf

      • talknic
        May 19, 2016, 9:13 pm

        ohplease

        “Scholarly debate of Plan D intent:
        link to en.wikipedia.org”

        Nothing scholarly in an editor who
        A) agrees with a Hasbara spouting sockpuppet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Plan_Dalet#Time_for_a_new_look

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snakeswithfeet

        and;

        B) who argues to leave a clearly identified mistake in the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Plan_Dalet#Incorrect_attribution_to_Yoav_Gelber_and_Benny_Morris

        Wikipedia is infected by Ziocreeps

      • Annie Robbins
        May 20, 2016, 12:54 am

        talknic, just checked out your links. thank you so much for everything you do ;)

      • talknic
        May 20, 2016, 2:16 am

        @ Annie Robbins May 20, 2016, 12:54 am

        Ditto for what you and MW’s astute contributors give. Priceless. If only it wasn’t necessary.

      • amigo
        May 20, 2016, 11:09 am

        “But the spirit of this site is anything good Israel does is hasbara because Israel can’t do anything good ” ohplease.

        This site would not be necessary if Israel would end it,s occupation, not to mention it,s 7 decades of land theft and unlimited acts of oppression all of which ammount to war crimes.Who cares about anything good Israel has done. This is not about balancing Israel,s good acts (Inventing Cherry tomatoes ) against murdering innocent people . You want Israel to be seen in a positive light then direct your efforts towards ending the occupation and convincing zionists to get the hell out of Palestine.Failing that , cut the whimpering and get used to the negative attention.It is well deserved.That is why Israel is now at the top of the list of most hated states on this planet.

        Now back to the image of that Idf thug brutalizing a child who happens to have a broken arm .This the face of your goody two shoes so called light unto the nations .

    • just
      May 18, 2016, 7:09 pm

      ““Civilians flee during fighting, not because of a massive call on Arab leaders to flee (I’m not denying the Nakba, so relax), but because civilians flee during fighting. Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.””

      Civilians can’t in Gaza !

      • ohplease
        May 18, 2016, 10:20 pm

        Not sure what this has to do with my original point – we are talking about ’48.

      • just
        May 18, 2016, 11:10 pm

        “Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.”

        I believe that this comment refers to the present.

        (You might want to read what you wrote)

    • DaBakr
      May 19, 2016, 12:31 am

      You have struck a nerve but the ironically smug commentary here has simply swept any and just about every piece of narrative that doesn’t attack Zionist jews AS as the cause under their magic carpets. Mostly true believers here with closed minds and a helluva lot of their own brand of nerve. And let’s be honest. Chutzpah may be a cute old yiddishkeit phrase but it’s totally translatable and not as unique as Jew-haters like to portray. It simply means extreme nerve.

      This article comes off like a sophomore college kids midterm essay on the practice of propaganda101.

      • Marnie
        May 19, 2016, 11:13 am

        Feel better about yourself now sweetums?

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 1:10 pm

        DaBakr this smugness is so typical of Leftists. They think they know everything because they read some New Historians and eagerly gobble up everything they say like Gospel Truth, because it confirms their preconceived bias against Israel.

        They don’t even bother to check the sources Ilan Pappe or Avi Shlaim use and see how they distort or project meaning into them just as much as right-wing analysts bring into their analyses. Like Rhania Khalek says, “objectivity is bullshit.”

        Israel has its fair share of problems, but to paint it as the epitome of all evil in this world takes a truly dedicated commitment of negative energy and fanaticism.

        And all quotes need to be taken in context. Just like you can quote-mine the Zionists about ethnic cleansing, you can quote mine Pan-Arabists to seem to say that Palestinians aren’t a real nation.

        Just like Young Earth Creationists quote mine Stephen Jay Gould to “show” that the famous evolutionary biologist didn’t actually believe in evolution.

        But the whole MO here is to snatch at anything portraying Zionism/Israel in a negative light and laud it. That’s why these comments are just everyone telling each other how brilliant they are and attacking anyone with a different viewpoint. And of course censoring anything they don’t like.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 2:01 pm

        yada yada yada, ohplease we’ve heard it all before from hasbara central, could you get more original please. and you and sila should get together w/your lame epitome of all evil in this world claim because what’s clear is you’re unable to argue w/out the strawman crutch.

        btw, not that it has anything to do w/zionism, but what do you think of the “binary options” Scam industry in Tel Aviv that’s bilked 10’s of thousands of french citizens out of their retirement? the times of Israel has done a series of (15 since march so far) articles about it http://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/binary-options/ . Here’s one of the articles:

        The wolves of Tel Aviv: Israel’s vast, amoral binary options scam exposed: http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-wolves-of-tel-aviv-israels-vast-amoral-binary-options-scam-exposed/

        and another: http://www.timesofisrael.com/as-israel-turns-blind-eye-to-vast-binary-options-fraud-french-investigators-step-in/

        As Israel turns blind eye to vast binary options fraud, French investigators step in Tens of thousands of French victims have lost some 4 billion euros to online investment scams in the past six years. Much of the cynical theft originates — and is still flourishing — in Israel

        here’s an interview with the journalist who broke the story: http://www.timesofisrael.com/toi-talks-the-dark-underbelly-of-the-start-up-nation/ starts at 23:29 (scroll to “Reporter’s notebook”).

        and there’s more! guess what, they recruit new immigrants — people who’ve just made aliya because it’s so hard to make a living wage in tel aviv. check out the vampire recruitment add: http://www.timesofisrael.com/tel-aviv-binary-options-firm-advertises-for-predators/

        “predators work at night”

        and it’s not just france either. seriously this story is hot. albeit, it isn’t the “epitome of all evil in this world” but here’s someone who worked for the scam (and there are over 100 israel firms doing this employing thousands of people ripping off billions annually):

        “Many forex customers have no idea that the company operates from Israel, especially when we’re talking about the Arabic-speaking desks. Their complaints never reach our justice system and so the industry is not exposed. How is it possible that this has been happening for years, with no local regulation? What happens when thousands of Turks, Russians, Spaniards, Italians and French figure out that the scam they fell for was carried out from here, in Israel? Are our regulators waiting for synagogues to start blowing up all over the world to shut this thing down?”

        yeah, what will happen?

        but the good news is, israel recently passed legislation to make it illegal to target investors from Israel, so at least israelis won’t lose their life savings. but investigators in france are all over this, apparently 26% of french have been targeted.

        just curious what you think — speaking of MO — and chutzpah.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 2:21 pm

        ohplease, talknic ask you to source your ridiculous allegation yesterday and you have not done so. maybe it slipped your mind. several posters are awaiting your response. so could you provide a source for this please:

        http://mondoweiss.net/2016/05/israeli-chutzpah-palestinian/#comment-840035

      • eljay
        May 19, 2016, 2:15 pm

        || ohplease: … Israel has its fair share of problems … ||

        I agree that Israel has its fair share of problems. They include oppression, military occupation, colonialism, religion-based supremacism, intransigence, belligerence and the inability to stop committing (war) crimes and to start honouring its obligations under international law.

        || … but to paint it as the epitome of all evil in this world takes a truly dedicated commitment of negative energy and fanaticism. … ||

        I agree that Israel is not the epitome of all evil. But to paint it and defend it as a “moral beacon” and a “light unto the nations” state – as you Zio-supremacists routinely do – takes a truly dedicated commitment of fantasy and propaganda.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 2:27 pm

        i don’t agree israel has a “fair share” of problems. fair would be US/UN/Russia (and all other bric countries -china/brazil/india/) /Germany/UK/france, sanctioning israel. and that’s just a start.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 2:35 pm

        Annie Robbins I never stated any zionist hasbara. See my reply above to amigo. People on here interpret everything as hasbara.

        I know nothing of the financial scam you mentioned, but it’s despicable and should be punished and stopped like any other.

        Eljay when did I say Israel was a model nation and a light unto the nations? You are assuming so much about me without knowing anything about me?

        Everyone here jumps down my throat in so reactionary a fashion simply because I questioned Mr. Ofir’s analysis and told you that I read everything you read and was not impressed as you were regarding said books.

        Annie the source is from Benny Morris in Birth of the Palestinian Refugee problem, first edition. I believe its in the chapter on the Lausanne conference but I don’t know the exact page.

        The offer was 100,000 refugees not all 700,000. This is obviously a huge difference than my original claim. I already answered it, but it was deleted because I guess something inappropriate was added in there [..]

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 3:15 pm

        . This is obviously a huge difference than my original claim

        yes it is. as was your claim it was the arab states who left “the refugees” in limbo — implying israel’s expulsion (nakba) wasn’t responsible for their “limbo” status. ever seen the movie sophie’s choice? who’s fault was it her children died? sophie’s? i didn’t think so.

        I never stated any zionist hasbara

        uh huh. are you aware anyone can click on your name and read all your comments in your archive? why not read the hasbara handbook: https://www.sott.net/signs/hasbara.pdf specifically the section on “7 basic propaganda devices” and “point scoring”. this technique my dear, is straight out of the hasbara handbook:

        to paint it as the epitome of all evil in this world takes a truly dedicated commitment of negative energy and fanaticism.

        your commentary is sprinkled throughout with basic tactics listed in the handbook. you can feign innocent all you like — but it (your commentary) is classic zionist hasbara.

        bye

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 3:22 pm

        LOL there is a hasbara handbook? that’s really funny and sad.

        I am not consciously engaging in any hasbara. Maybe it’s just in my blood.

        Stop editing my comments or just don’t post them you intellectual cowards and authoritarians

        I’m debating Annie and the mods edit mine as we debate. What a sham this place is

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 3:37 pm

        i left the link for you above, yes there is an instructional hasbara handbook published and produced by WUJS, the World Union of Jewish Students.

        i’d urge you to review our comment policy http://mondoweiss.net/policy/

        this is propaganda:

        Civilians flee during fighting …. because civilians flee during fighting. Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.

        this is nakba denial. if you’d like to argue there was no intention to expel palestinians from their villages to create a jewish majority state — try another site. because here, it’s a “settled issue” — pun intended.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 3:54 pm

        Stop editing my comments or just don’t post them you intellectual cowards and authoritarians

        I’m debating Annie and the mods edit mine as we debate. What a sham this place is

        alright, in the future instead of “[..]” i will delete your comment. i am not always the moderator here but i moderated that comment and advised you afterwards to review the comment section. again:

        if you’d like to argue there was no intention to expel palestinians from their villages to create a jewish majority state — try another site.

        you may think that’s intellectual cowardness and authoritarian but we don’t publish nakba denial. we’ve moved on. we don’t debate whether hitler intended to kill jews either. step up your game because we’re not debating that regardless of how much you’re itching for it.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 3:29 pm

        These arguments also assume that hasbara cannot have any valid points by definition. that’s more cognitive bias of the radical Left.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 3:47 pm

        what “cognitive bias of the radical Left argument” are you referencing? quit shooting from the hip and relying on strawman arguments. are you familiar w/copying and pasting? cite someone before spewing nonsense. hasbara can have valid points “by definition”, it doesn’t mean you have any valid points.

      • talknic
        May 19, 2016, 3:44 pm

        @ ohplease

        “The offer was 100,000 refugees not all 700,000. This is obviously a huge difference than my original claim.”

        So Israel ‘offered’ to leave 611,000 people who had a legal right to return, in limbo. How amazingly generous!!

      • eljay
        May 19, 2016, 3:47 pm

        || ohplease: … Eljay when did I say Israel was a model nation and a light unto the nations? … ||

        I didn’t say you said it – I said “you Zio-supremacists routinely” say it. And you do.

        || … You are assuming so much about me without knowing anything about me? … ||

        I’m assuming that you believe that Jews are entitled to Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine. But perhaps I’m mistaken. Please do clarify. Thanks. :-)

      • talknic
        May 19, 2016, 3:57 pm

        ohplease May 19, 2016, 3:29 pm

        “These arguments also assume that hasbara cannot have any valid points by definition”

        There’s no need to assume, when one can cross check facts. Hasbara by its lies has no validity.

        I’ve yet to see a single valid point as to why Israel continues to illegally acquire, claim and/or occupy non-Israeli territory, make demands for recognition as a Jewish State, refuse to allow RoR, ignore International Law, ignore the UN Charter and ignore numerous UNSC resolutions

      • talknic
        May 19, 2016, 4:12 pm

        @ ohplease

        ” they read some New Historians”

        No need. We can read the official UN reports, Israeli Government/Jewish Agency/Zionist Movement statements

        “Israel …. the epitome of all evil in this world takes a truly dedicated commitment of negative energy and fanaticism”

        It takes a truly dedicated commitment of negative energy and fanaticism to claim something that no one here is actually doing.

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2016, 5:55 pm

        ” What a sham this place is…”

        A “sham”? You call a website which gets so many ‘hits’ and UPVs and sessions from Zionists a “sham”?
        I think the stats speak for themselves.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 10:31 pm

        this is propaganda:

        Civilians flee during fighting …. because civilians flee during fighting. Look at conflict everywhere in the globe – civilians flee.

        this is nakba denial. if you’d like to argue there was no intention to expel palestinians from their villages to create a jewish majority state — try another site. because here, it’s a “settled issue” — pun intended.

        Ok I get your point. To you guys here its settled. I won’t bring it up anymore.

        Before I keep talking, let me inquire about other ‘sensitive issues’ and where this place stands on them, so my comments don’t get moderated:

        Are the following things also ‘settled’ on here and therefore offensive to discuss?

        1) Palestinian indigineity stretching back to eons, being the true Israelites and/or Canaanites.

        2) Challenging the rampant denial here of Jewish people hood: Ashkenazis are Khazars, Mizrahis are Arabs, Sephardis are Berbers, etc. and God Forbid any Jews alive today are of Israelite descent.

        The two claims of course are somewhat joined at the hip.

        Funny, Wikipedia claims that point 2) has been abandoned by all serious ME scholars, Arab and Jewish alike, and is only still popular among amateur anti-Israel activitists. (What’s the Arabic word for hasbara?)

        Perhaps Talknic can ‘prove’ how ‘Ziocreeps’ are responsible for that Wikipedia claim too?

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 11:44 pm

        Before I keep talking, let me inquire about other ‘sensitive issues’ and where this place stands on them

        let’s not, you’re spamming. how about let’s get on topic (scroll up to the article) and not try to lead the discussion off in some inflammatory argument for the sake of “my comments don’t get moderated”.

        God Forbid any Jews alive today are of Israelite descent.

        triple yawn.

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2016, 11:37 pm

        “God Forbid any Jews alive today are of Israelite descent…”

        What on earth does that have to do with it? If some Jews can trace their ancestry back to the area over a thousand years ago, does that mean Zionists get to take Palestine over and kick the people who live there out? What on earth are you talking about?

        BTW, how’s that nausea? Are you going to be doing a lot more projection vomiting?

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 11:47 pm

        Are you going to be doing a lot more projection vomiting?

        because denial here is so like — “rampant”(according to our new commenter, no doubt an expert on what’s rampant on mondoweiss).

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2016, 11:58 pm

        “Are the following things also ‘settled’ on here and therefore offensive to discuss?”

        It’s like watching a blindedfold ballerina in a cow pasture doing a series of entrechats, a few échappé sautés and ending in a grand jete. And never missing a landing. SQUELCH!!

      • talknic
        May 20, 2016, 12:14 am

        @ ohplease May 19, 2016, 10:31 pm

        “Are the following things also ‘settled’ on here and therefore offensive to discuss?”

        They’re irrelevant to the proclaimed and recognized extent of Israel’s borders and that state’s illegal activities in territories the Israeli Government itself claimed on May 22nd 1948 were “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”

        “Funny, Wikipedia claims that point 2) has been abandoned by all serious ME scholars, Arab and Jewish alike, and is only still popular among amateur anti-Israel activitists. (What’s the Arabic word for hasbara?)

        Perhaps Talknic can ‘prove’ how ‘Ziocreeps’ are responsible for that Wikipedia claim too?”

        Give me the exact page and dialogue …. thx

      • Marnie
        May 20, 2016, 1:35 am

        “But the whole MO here is to snatch at anything portraying Zionism/Israel in a negative light and laud it. -”

        “Wrong again Hans”. The zionist “state” does that all by itself, to its own frustration and shame. It’s discussed here. You want a feel good about your zionism site – there are hundreds, take your pick. This is not a site intended to make zionists feel good about their zionism.

      • eljay
        May 20, 2016, 7:49 am

        || ohplease: … 2) Challenging the rampant denial here of Jewish people hood: Ashkenazis are Khazars, Mizrahis are Arabs, Sephardis are Berbers, etc. and God Forbid any Jews alive today are of Israelite descent. … ||

        Some people alive today may be of ancient Israelite descent. So what? That doesn’t entitle them to an Israelite/Jewish state today, any more than people of ancient Etruscan descent are entitled to an Etruscan state today.

        Some people alive today may be of ancient Amalekite desce…oh, wait, that’s not possible. Ancient Israelites/Jews slaughtered every last one of them. :-(

    • Mooser
      May 19, 2016, 1:32 am

      “Perhaps it pays to be a little more critical of all sources”

      Mr. Ofir is from Israel. I think he knows what he is talking about.

      “It’s shrill, assumptive, and emotive, aside from being a shady analysis of events.”

      I’m sorry “ohplease”, are you nauseous?

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 1:01 pm

        Have you ever been to Israel?

        Being from Israel does not mean you are qualified to talk any more than me being American qualifies me to talk on something going on in America.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 2:13 pm

        ohplease, why not answer the question. are you nauseous?

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 2:28 pm

        I don’t get Mooser’s sarcasm. Why would I be nauseous? No I”m not nausous.

      • Kay24
        May 19, 2016, 2:28 pm

        Ohplease, “Israel has its fair share of problems”

        Israel has problems? You should ask those they occupy, steal lands from, blockade, and send precision bombs to in Gaza. Now those are REAL problems, and has been for decades.

        Israel has to deal with the results of its own stupidity. End the occupation and stop the land theft, and their problems get less.

        This is typical nonsense spewed by the Rightists.

      • ohplease
        May 19, 2016, 2:44 pm

        To clarify to both Kay and Annie.

        When I said “fair share of problems” I meant Israel’s moral failings, not its problems in the sense of having to deal with the consequences of its actions. Obviously the US gives it almost complete immunity.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 19, 2016, 5:09 pm

        When I said “fair share of problems” I meant Israel’s moral failings, not its problems in the sense of having to deal with the consequences of its actions

        “fair share” is an idiom with a specific meaning http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/one's+fair+share

        the amount of something that one is due relative to what other people are receiving.

        so it doesn’t just mean ‘israel has moral failings’. a share of something is in relation to others or sometimes very much in relation to “the consequences of its actions” (what “one is due”). for example, if someone kidnapped a woman and raped her in the basement for 20 years saying “the rapist has his fair share of problems” — like yeah, having to hide her from the neighbors and pay for her food out of his paycheck. not much of a fair share of problems compared to the sadist’s victim. but sure, the sadist has moral failings — that sort of goes without saying. and it doesn’t even approach addressing what he’s due (iow: consequences).

        in an environment, either globally or locally, israel is not having its “fair share” of problems. you pointed out earlier “the US gives it almost complete immunity.” plus they provide a qualitative military edge (not ‘fair share’).

        when you oppress another people for decades and imprison 40% of the male population over time and bulldoze homes and murder them like dogs in the street, israel is not receiving it’s fair share of problems.

        i’m just explaining that not because i am “engaging in semantics” but because words matter and idioms have meaning. eventually israel will get it’s just deserts, but it doesn’t have a fair share of problems now, not what “one is due relative to what other people are receiving”. iow, not relative to palestinian problems due to israel’s oppressive sadistic (greedy and thieving and war criminal) behavior.

  5. JWalters
    May 18, 2016, 7:53 pm

    This photo is utterly iconic.

    And this insane, brutal tyranny is supported whole-heartedly by Hillary Clinton and her Israeli-Wall Street financiers. (Not a Sandy Hook kid.) Sanders supporters are supposed to get behind this “for the good of the party”. Meanwhile, the MSM sits by in (controlled) silence. Thank God for Mondoweiss.

  6. just
    May 18, 2016, 9:41 pm

    Thank you for another thought- provoking and super article, Jonathan.

    Here’s something that will surely provoke more Zionist and “Israeli chutzpah”:

    “Leaders of Belgium’s parliament nominate Marwan Barghouti for Nobel Peace Prize

    BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — Leading members of Belgium’s parliament, from across the national political spectrum, nominated Marwan Barghouti for the Nobel Peace Prize on Wednesday, referring to the imprisoned parliament member as the “Palestinian Mandela” and a symbol of peace in Palestine.

    “Peace requires the freedom of Marwan Barghouti and all of the political prisoners, and more generally the freedom of the Palestinian people living for decades under occupation,” the nomination letter sent to the Norwegian Nobel Committee stated.

    The statement continued with references to the 2013 Robben Island Declaration for the Freedom of Marwan Barghouti and all Palestinian Prisoners, launched by the veteran South African politician, Ahmed Kathrada, and signed by eight Nobel Peace Prize recipients and US President Carter inside Nelson Mandela’s old prison cell on Robben Island. The organizers and attendees sought to re-focus the world’s attention on the plight of Palestinians and call for the release of Palestinian political prisoners held by Israel.

    Referring to Barghouti’s “unique position among Palestinians and on the international stage,” the parliament members declared the political prisoner “a symbol of the Palestinian people’s quest for freedom, a uniting figure and an advocate of peace based on international law.”

    The decision by the Belgian Parliament members marked the third nomination Barghouti has received since the start of this year, with nominations coming from a former Nobel Peace Prize recipient, Adolfo Perez Esquivel — an artist and leading figure of the struggle against Latin American dictatorships — and the Arab Parliament following an unanimous decision to nominate the imprisoned politician. …”

    more @ http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=771560

    Oh, happy day!!!

  7. Marnie
    May 19, 2016, 12:30 am

    “So – the soldiers are the victims. Their hands are tied behind their backs. Help the soldiers! Whilst they beat up Palestinian children with already broken limbs. In addition – we must allow them to go further and shoot at unarmed civilians – family – who are trying to come to the rescue. If Leo Rosten’s definition of Chutzpah was correct, then Israel had established it as a policy on national level.’

    And the poster boy for this paragraph is the douche in the picture, terrified of the Tamimi women and girls. I actually have this video in favorites, it never gets old!

  8. just
    May 20, 2016, 9:19 am

    A very good column about more “Israeli chutzpah” by Roy Isacowitz:

    “Frustrated and Weak, the Israeli Left Has Turned to Bullying the Palestinians

    The Palestinians may have been under the heel of a brutal, occupation regime for the past 50 years but, according to the ‘pro-peace’ Zionist left, it’s still their responsibility to get us out of this mess.

    Exhausted, frustrated and politically emasculated, the Zionist left appears to have zeroed in on Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as the source of its woes and the main obstacle to its long-cherished dream of peace. …

    … The articles by Beilin and Taub sum up the malaise of the Zionist left in Israel. It has no electoral prospects – proved this week once again by Isaac Herzog’s disastrous attempt to insinuate himself into the government – and no extra-parliamentary base (such as the old Histadrut) that could conceivably propel it back into power in the distant future.

    Where others (still small in number) have effectively abandoned parliamentary politics and are focusing their activities on fieldwork (Breaking the Silence, Ta’ayush) and promoting boycotts and sanctions, the traditional left is psychologically blocked from taking that route. Herzog’s recent attacks on “Arab-lovers” in his own party testify to the conceptual prison in which the left has confined itself.

    Hemmed in on all sides, the Zionist left’s instinctive response is to bully Abbas. Unable to vent their frustrations on the sources of their despair – the Israeli electorate and the current government – they turn their aggression on Abbas and the Palestinians, the party least responsible for the predicament of the left and least able to resolve it.

    Taub’s argument that the Palestinians are not a “partner” for peace is a cheap attempt at shaming. The Palestinians were partners in the abortive 2014 negotiating process led by John Kerry, the secret Olmert talks and the Clinton-era negotiations at Camp David and Taba, after which Ehud Barak came up with the “Israel doesn’t have a partner” canard to obfuscate his failure.

    If, however, Taub is using the word “partner” in the sense of a person who joins with another on the basis of shared risks and profits, he should consider how sharing Israel has been during the partnership forced on the Palestinians over the past 50 years. Who precisely has absorbed the risks and who has gobbled up the profits?

    Full partnership is voluntary and denotes equality. There cannot be a peace partnership between Israel and Palestine until Israel accepts the principle of true equality, which it has never been willing to do.

    Until such a time as concepts such as sovereignty, security measures and land rights apply publicly, equally and fully to both parties – as they did during the peace negotiations with both Egypt and Jordan – Israel and the Palestinians may be participants in peace talks but they’ll never be partners.

    The partnership that Taub is offering is the partnership between a wife-beater and his battered wife or the hangman and his bound and blindfolded subjects.  A slave can never be a partner in the slavery enterprise. Nor can a shotgun bride be a partner in a marriage or a rape victim a partner in sex. Participation based on force, coercion or blackmail is not partnership.
    The only partnership that Mahmoud Abbas can offer Israel right now is what he has been doing since he took office – a partnership in crime; complicity in maintaining the illegal occupation and settlement enterprise. By all accounts, he has been a good partner.

    But if things are to move on from there, if the Palestinian leader is ever to become an equal partner in peace, it’s up to the party holding all the assets to put them on the table and negotiate over them seriously. And that, as we all know, is not the sort of partnership the Netanyahu government has in mind.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.720651?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  9. Ossinev
    May 20, 2016, 1:51 pm

    @just
    “The only partnership that Mahmoud Abbas can offer Israel right now is what he has been doing since he took office – a partnership in crime; complicity in maintaining the illegal occupation and settlement enterprise. By all accounts, he has been a good partner”

    Spot on.

    There are have been off and on “what if” speculations in the JSIL press for a number of years now about the scenario if Abbas stepped down or his health failed him ( he is 81 has entered the Mugabe zone ).

    In the event of his departure IMO it is likely that the whole Palestinian “Authority” Vichy farce will implode and both the so called left and the increasingly looney tunes “right” in JSIL will respond to the ensuing chaos by blaming him for incitement even if it entailed cursing over his grave.

  10. inbound39
    May 20, 2016, 3:13 pm

    Well…oh please has given me much mirth…….If oh please can recall Israel agreed to implement Resolution 194 for full UN membership. The World still waits for Israel to do so. From this lack of implementation one can ascertain that due to Israel’s failure to implement 194 it has no legitimacy as a full member at the UN and therefore ,rightfully,should be suspended. Time and again we here Israel claim it has a historic right to Israel. Macedonia has a historic right stretching back further than Israeli jews to Palestine. Alexander the Great conquered all the Middle East and he was a Macedonian. I would love to see Macedonia announce a historic claim to Palestine based on the same criteria Israel Zionists used. How could it be rejected by America if America accepted Israel’s reasoning….lol

  11. Jonathan Ofir
    May 21, 2016, 3:51 am

    Apologies for not following ALL responses, but I see that Ohplease makes a claim here, as to item 1 involving ALA fighters. This is simply not in the text, and I cannot see its basis. You state that you are not denying the Nakba or claiming that the “call to flee” (by Arab leaders) is the only reason for the exodus – in this respect it is interesting to note how Benny Morris categorically refutes the Shabtai Teveth ‘theory’ about this. It is a myth that has become widely inculcated in Zionist culture:
    In the first chapter of 1948 and After, Morris outlines his refutation of the single-cause thesis to the Palestinian exodus. On p. 31, he writes: “In refuting Teveth’s single-cause (“Arab orders”) explanation of the exodus up to 15 May, I pointed out that there is simply no evidence to support it, and that the single document Teveth is able to cite, the Haganah report of 24 April, refers explicitly to “rumours” and to an order to “several localities” (rather than a blanket order to “the Arabs of Palestine”). Moreover, neither these “rumours” nor the purported order were referred to again in any subsequent Haganah intelligence report (which surely would have been the case had these “rumours” been confirmed and had an actual order been picked up). The fact is that the opposite occurred: Haganah intelligence and Western diplomatic missions in the Middle East at the time, around 5–6 May 1948, picked up, recorded and quoted from Arab orders and appeals (by King Abdullah I, Arab Liberation Army Commander Fawzi Qawuqji, and Damascus Radio) to the Arabs of Palestine to stay put in their homes or, if already in exile, to return to Palestine. Not evidence of “Arab orders” to flee but of orders to stay put during those crucial pre-invasion weeks. It flies in the face of the chronology, which there is no getting around. There was an almost universal one-to-one correspondence between Jewish attacks in specific localities and on specific towns and Arab flight from these localities and towns;”

    Now even if there were defensive forces (and note that sometimes the appearance of “Arab irregular” forces has been a matter that could cause flight, see item 8 in the IDF document), that could hardly justify that the village be attacked just because it has people to defend it… in egregious cases which I have covered in detail, the taking out of fighters only precipitated a large scale massacre of the civilian population (Dawaymeh, Tantura), and it was generally the case that the village would be expelled and demolished – this was the case hundreds of times. Had the objective really been just taking out military resistance, all the rest would not be necessary.

  12. mcohen.
    May 21, 2016, 6:41 pm

    for me personally j ofir is to be applauded for this interesting article,others might disagree,such as the fake “oh please” paraded here to spice the conversation up.chutzpah combined with sumud is a better outcome,called sumchutz.yes sumchutz,could lead to great things.
    actually the photo is a all time ip classic……and sums up sumchutz perfectly.the chutzpah is there but it has lost it,s way,thinking to itself… wtf,how did i land up here
    sumud is there to,crying out ….now i have poked the bear and it has got me,what will happen now,who will sort this out for me,i resisted but where will it go…..maybe the internationals can fix it.

    yes the picture is sumchutz

    • Mooser
      May 21, 2016, 8:57 pm

      “such as the fake “oh please” paraded here to spice conversation up” “mcohen”

      What did you find inauthentic about “oh please”? And who is “parading” her?

      Are you saying “oh please” must be a parody-Zionist, a sock-puppet contrived by Mondo antizionists, just to make Zionism look bad? Yeah, that must be it.

  13. mcohen.
    May 22, 2016, 1:00 am

    the smart money would have built an underwater pipeline from israel to greece and then onto europe.
    peace with the gulf arabs and sa would then see a pipeline from saudi arabia to israel.
    instead the overland route through syria was chosen and that has now brought the match to the tinder box
    pity

  14. mcohen.
    May 22, 2016, 2:27 am

    expanding gaza as far as ashdod along highway 4 coupled with the gulf pipeline in exchange for land along the jordan in the west bank for israeli settlement would be a good idea.a buffer zone,capital to manage the pipeline from the gulf ,jobs for gaza,are worth considering.

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