Sanders appoints Palestine advocates to committee drafting Democrat’s 2016 platform

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Advocates for the rights of Palestinians will join Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the City of Brotherly Love this July for the Democratic National convention, part of his five selections for the fifteen member Executive Committee drafting the Democrats’ 2016 platform.

Rewarding their work for progressive causes with access to the inner sanctum of Democratic party politics, Sanders helps amplify their voices like no other candidate has. It also helps stitch up a deep flaw in the Democratic party platform: blasting Donald Trump for Islamophobia while ignoring the plight of Palestinians, who suffer under an occupation whose sole purpose is to segregate people by religion. It also brings Muslims deep into the process at a time when Republicans have turned their faith into a piñata they can bash and the crowd roars. American Muslims can only defend themselves if they have a say in government. Online, some Trump fans, most anonymous, say charitable things about Hitler’s Holocaust of Jews. They get bolder by the day.

“Our lives depend on the outcome of this election. The stakes are much higher for us,” said Linda Sarsour, co-founder of the Muslim Democratic Club of New York, a Palestinian-American born in Brooklyn.

Three of the five selected have expressed skepticism about Israel. According to The Washington Post, they are James Zogby, the head of the Arab American Institute (AAI); Cornel West, a social justice activist and author critical of Israel, and Minn. Rep. Keith Ellison, one of only two Muslims in congress. Ellison stuck his neck out for Palestinians by the calling for the end to Israel’s blockade of Gaza. He didn’t go as far as saying Israel’s policy on Gaza was “disproportionate” force. Sanders said the word in an April debate. Now, it’s not so hard for other younger politicians. Ellison is the only elected official on Sanders side.

“I think what they’re doing is building a platform that reflects Americans views, they want the U.S. to take a balanced approach,” she added.

A Sanders campaign ad featuring Sarsour.

A Sanders campaign ad featuring Sarsour.

Sarsour, who is Muslim, has been a vocal surrogate for Sanders during his campaign, making impassioned speeches on behalf of his fellow Brooklyn native, who happens to be Jewish.

Sarsour recommends that the platform should avoid specifics of any peace plan, the subject of endless debate. Rather, the committee should agree that both Israelis and Palestinians deserve equitable and neutral moderator to resolve their dispute.

Meanwhile, Americans are displaying more sympathy for the plight of Palestinians, beamed direct into their Facebook feeds. Young people are most likely to see Palestinians as victims, not villains, according to Pew.

But adopting the idea of neutrality, while it appears a modest goal, could be tough. Clinton, a Methodist Golda Meir compared to secular Sanders, told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in March that Israel’s security is “non-negotiable.” The corollary to that is that Palestinian security is negotiable instead. The corollary to that is that Palestinian lives are negotiable. They might matter some, but not as much as Israeli lives. Of course, Clinton wouldn’t outright say that, or maybe she doesn’t even think it, but it’s a logical conclusion, at least until She says “Palestinian security is non-negotiable” too.

Zogby, a Lebanese-American from Utica, New York, told The Washington Post that “peacemaking,” (like the venerable laserdisc, a retro 90s idea in its own right) depends on both sides trusting the negotiator, and the negotiator satisfying the needs of both sides.

“You need to find a way to meet the needs of both. To say we will satisfy one without the other is a recipe for failure” as peacemakers, Zogby said.

The Post has billed the appointments as a way of calming Wolfman Sanders before he strikes again. That doesn’t sound likely. Indeed, the choices set the stage for a potentially bitter clash in Philadelphia. Israel/Palestine is one of the most heated issues on Earth, and Philadelphia is a place where Americans have historically gone to engage in intense shouting matches about politics and parking spaces.

The Clinton team is a veritable Metrorail car of heavy, important D.C. types; a former state department official, two congressional representatives, the head of the Center for American Progress; the former chief of the Environmental Protection Agency, and somebody from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal workers. DNC chairman Debbie Wasserman Shultz’s picks include two congressional representatives and a business executive.

Sanders appointees, like some kind of motley sandlot baseball team, are all activists or intellectuals. Only one of them, Ellison, is an elected official. While Zogby has served on the lower DNC committees before, the others are novices to the process. They are going up against Clinton’s most loyal friends, who have shiny new bats and glossy gloves and are the favorites to win.

As Sanders said Monday the convention could be “messy.”

“So what?…Democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle,” Sanders told the Associated Press, without giving an example of when democracy was ever quiet and gentle.

In announcing the appointments, he didn’t mention Israel or Palestine. All five of the appointees have backgrounds in other progressive causes.

With the five appointees on the chair “we will be in a very strong position to fight for an economy that works for all of our people, not just the one percent; to fight to break up the large banks on Wall Street, who in my view now have much too much economic and political power.”

Zogby, Ellison and West (along with Native American activist Deborah Parker and environmentalist Bill McKibben) are bringing political philosophy to the creation of a political platform. Political platforms are twisted cartoon versions of political philosophies.

A party’s presidential platform is like a duct-taped together inflatable bouncy house, something fun for the whole family. You can have fun and nobody gets hurt. There is limited swearing.

Implementing philosophy in politics is more like building a real house, for people to live in that helps them survive the deadly weather on this planet. People have done it before, there’s a way to do it, but it takes collective action to achieve. Best of all, if done right, it’s actually useful. Sometimes, there’s a lot of swearing, because it’s frustrating, difficult work.

There will likely be some surreal arguments between public intellectuals and Clinton loyalists. But after all the huffing and puffing, the platform is nothing more than a strong suggestion. It gets deflated after the convention and tucked away until the next one. Clinton is under no legal obligation to follow the mandates of the bouncy house.

I asked Sarsour whether she trusted Clinton, if the former first lady becomes president, to follow through on a part of the platform that recognizes Palestinians right to exist.

“No,” she said, without hesitation. “But this is still an important step.”

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  1. Marnie
    May 24, 2016, 8:36 am

    It’s about damn time! Incredible news – Arab americans like Linda Sarsour and James Zogby have to be part of any discussions and policy making wrt i/P. The years of the one-sided debates and policies should be finally dead and buried. I also hope Keith Ellison steps up to the plate with great gusto as Dr. West, such a humanitarian. So wonderful!

  2. hophmi
    May 24, 2016, 9:11 am

    “who suffer under an occupation whose sole purpose is to segregate people by religion”

    Oh please. What garbage. Fight your religious war somewhere else, Dizard.

    I have no problem with a platform that recognizes that the Palestinian right to a state. Most of you do, however, because you won’t be happy unless the platform calls for an end to the Jewish state.

    • eljay
      May 24, 2016, 9:34 am

      || hophmi: … I have no problem with a platform that recognizes that the Palestinian right to a state. Most of you do, however, because you won’t be happy unless the platform calls for an end to the Jewish state. ||

      Self-determination grants the indigenous population of Palestine – Palestinians – the right to a state of and for all citizens of, immigrants to and expats and refugees from the geographic region comprising the state.

      Self-determination does not grant Jewish people the world over the right to a colonialist and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine.

      The only reason you “have no problem with a platform that recognizes that the Palestinian right to a state” is because you think that supporting actual self-determination somehow validates your fraudulent, Zio-supremacist “self-determination”.

      It doesn’t. The lie remains a lie.

    • Kay24
      May 24, 2016, 10:43 am

      Hoppy, surely by now you should have got it….no people who are under decades of military occupation, and are having their lands stolen by the day, would be expected to recognize, or speak lovingly, of their tormenters. In fact their frustration and anger would make them even react violently at times. This is a normal human reaction. Let the occupier recognize a Palestinian state and set them free, then things will miraculously get better for everyone in the neighborhood. Simple.

      • eljay
        May 24, 2016, 10:58 am

        || Kay24: … Let the occupier recognize a Palestinian state and set them free, then things will miraculously get better for everyone in the neighborhood. … ||

        Even if they don’t, at least Israel – by ending its occupation, withdrawing to within its / Partition borders, honouring its obligations under international law, etc. – wouldn’t and shouldn’t be held liable for subsequent problems faced by Palestine or by anyone else in the neighbourhood.

        But for some reason, Zio-supremacists seem to prefer that
        “moral beacon” and “light unto the nations” “Jewish State” of Israel continue playing the role of colonialist and (war) criminal aggressor-victim, regardless of the blowback it generates against the “Jewish State” and non-Israeli Jews.

        “Ils sont fous, ces Zio-suprémacistes!”

      • hophmi
        May 24, 2016, 11:04 am

        “then things will miraculously get better for everyone in the neighborhood. ”

        That’s a bit delusional, sorry. Iraq and Syria are not going to get better because the Palestinians got a state. The Jews are not responsible for every Arab problem.

      • Kay24
        May 24, 2016, 11:18 am

        Okay Hoppy we’ll start with Israel’s next door neighbors then, I mean the Palestinian territories, set them free and give them no cause to protest or wish anyone gone. No occupation/illegal settlements, no mean words that hurt poor little Israel’s feelings. No nation can bully/kill/steal and not expect any form of retaliation. Clear now?

      • oldgeezer
        May 24, 2016, 12:10 pm

        @hophmi

        Quite correct, the Jews are not responsible for every Arab problem. The Jews should not be responsible for any Arab problem and would not be responsible if it undertook moral and legal actions.

        Suck it up sunshine. You’re supporting a rogue state.

      • bryan
        May 26, 2016, 5:40 am

        Hoppy: “then things will miraculously get better for everyone in the neighborhood. ” You respond: “That’s a bit delusional, sorry. Iraq and Syria are not going to get better because the Palestinians got a state. The Jews are not responsible for every Arab problem”

        No one said the Jews were responsible – let alone the secular Israelis or those whose only “religion” is militant Zionism – but the conflict casts a dark shadow over an entire region, and has played a large part in the creating the problems that torment the entire region (e.g. the rise of both neo-conservative intervention, Western support for autocratic government, the undermining of secular nationalism and the associated rise of violent religious fundamentalism and “terrorism”.

        Let’s take a parallel situation: Europe was tormented for nearly a century by an existential rivalry between France and Germany (with major wars in 1870, 1914, 1939). Following crushing defeats of Germany in 1918 and 1945, peace broke out and the region established cooperative institutions (the Common Market, and then the EEC and the European Union). This had a transformative effect on the whole continent, with the advance of liberal democracy throughout the entire continent. Progress was uneven and faced (and still does) many challenges, but as part of the chain of changing attitudes, fascist regimes fell in Spain, Portugal, Greece, and peaceful advances were made everywhere. Rising prosperity brought huge gains in human rights, workers rights, gay rights, gender relationships etc.

        Are you seriously telling me that something similar could not happen in the Middle East? After crushing Arab defeats in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and 2006 etc.), if the victors could replicate the European experience, if a real peace process could break out, ending occupation, if the Arab peace proposal were to be pursued and adopted, granting region wide recognition of Israel (and even Iran would subscribe), then economic ties, cooperation on environmental issues, water, tourism and a host of other areas could follow (as they did in Europe) and the region could be transformed.

        An Israel living at peace within secure and recognised boundaries, could reap the peace dividend of reducing its military spending, and focus on social, educational and infrastructure investment. It would no longer have the constant incentive to undermine its neighbours. It would no longer need to continue to lobby for Western intervention in the region, as Netanyahu so blatantly did before the Iraq invasion. The political dynamic would be transformed, to the benefit of all states within the region.

        No, Hoppy – you continue to chant the warmonger’s slogan that peace wouldn’t change anything.

      • Kay24
        May 26, 2016, 6:56 am

        Hoppy “The Jews are not responsible for every Arab problem.”

        Maybe not all, but where the Palestinians are concerned, a brutal occupation and land grabs makes for a huge problem. People a are killed, resources stolen, babies burnt, children kidnapped and thrown into jail, some of the responsibilities the Jews must account for.

    • oldgeezer
      May 24, 2016, 10:56 am

      @hopmi

      Most Israelis oppose a Palestinian state of course. They covet their land and prefer denying them even basic human rights.

      As objectional as I finf any supremacist state I am ok if Israel survives in it’s present state provided Palestinians arw given a viable state. Viable not only in contiguity but a far share of the resources. The onus is on Israel to develop a compensation package which will entice Palestinians not to exercise their legitimate right of return.

      You will have to accept their is a huge price to pay for your apartheid racist enclave.

    • Marnie
      May 24, 2016, 12:05 pm

      Bitch, bitch, bitch. Go somewhere else. Start your own blog. Tired of your constant whining and disparaging remarks about the writers, the articles, MW, Phil, Annie and all the people who post here. Speaking of ‘garbage’, all of yours finds a spot in the comments section.

    • US Citizen
      May 24, 2016, 5:10 pm

      Oh my, poor hopi – ok – then let’s take religion out of it.

      Israel is simultaneously running three systems of government.
      The first is full democracy toward its Jewish citizens — ethnocracy.
      The second is racial discrimination toward the Palestinian minority — creeping Jim Crowism. And the third is occupation of the Palestinian territories with one set of laws for Palestinians and another for Jewish settlers — apartheid.

      Israel, and you, are forgetting that its continued denial of freedom to the Palestinians and its continued racist, apartheid regime are the very essence of the issue.

      As to the end of the state of Israel? Demographic trends mean that Israel can’t have it all.
      It can’t be a Jewish state, a democratic state, and a state in control of its whole historical land. It can only have two of its objectives at a time.
      Israel can be Jewish and territorial — but not democratic.
      Or it can be democratic and territorial — but not Jewish.
      Or finally, it can be Jewish and democratic — but not territorial.

      Israel has painted themselves into a corner, surrounded by states that loathe them. Their hubris, arrogance and sense of entitlement based on the ridiculous credo of “God’s chosen people”, has left them an apartheid state, discredited, unmasked, de-legitimized, scorned, reduced to a diplomatic dwarf, maniacally messianic fanatics, laughed at and alienated from the rest of the international community.

    • talknic
      May 24, 2016, 10:05 pm

      @ hophmi May 24, 2016, 9:11 am

      “Most of you do, however, because you won’t be happy unless the platform calls for an end to the Jewish state”

      Quotes and or statistics for ‘most’ please … thx I’ll wait … … and wait … and wait … and wait

      /// “who suffer under an occupation whose sole purpose is to segregate people by religion” ///

      “Oh please. What garbage. Fight your religious war somewhere else, Dizard”

      Many non-Jews in the illegal settlements? It’s Israel who ought go somewhere else, lizard, like Israel, instead of illegally settling in non-Israeli territories

      Oooops I might’ve spelled ‘Dizard’ wrong. Oh well too late

  3. pabelmont
    May 24, 2016, 10:40 am

    USA can guarantee Issrael’s security to its heart’s content (Israel’s or USA’s or both) and sdo so without OKing the occupation or the settlements regime, neither of which is related in any way to Israel’s security and both of which — after 49 years — must be deemed illegal at international law and violative of UNSC 242.

    So, Mr. Zogby would be justified to ask for a platform plank calling for American support for Israel’s security together with (in tandem with) a call for an end of the entire settlements regime and withdrawal of all settlers and demolition of the wall and all settlements over a period of two years, the removal of the settlements to be required and enforced by sanctions unless and until a peace treaty satisfactory to both parties (Israel and Palestine) shall have bee achieved.

    • Citizen
      May 24, 2016, 12:21 pm

      Many Israeli leaders over the years have justified the occupation and their intent never to give up more than a swiss cheese rump state sans military capability at most by saying & writing privately the land beyond the green line is required as a buffer, a military strategic defense necessity.

  4. Kay24
    May 24, 2016, 10:47 am

    It will be interesting to see how all this unravels during the Democratic convention. Hilly and Billy are not going to like any of the speakers criticize the side their campaign donors seem to adore. Wealthy man Saban, the strong pro Israel/US second American has apparently given Hilly millions in April, so she MUST do her utmost to show her loyalty for apartheid nation, and protect it from any criticism. If that means throwing people living in open prisons under the bus, so be it.

    Will the Jerusalem idiocy claim be declared again?

  5. kalithea
    May 24, 2016, 11:30 am

    This is okay news; but I’m very skeptical about the effectiveness. AND…IT’S NOT OVER! California will determine the outcome of the race. If California goes big for Sanders, then he has a chance to clinch the nomination.

    Trump is starting to edge Clinton in the polls. This is a sign that Democrats must rally behind Sanders at this 11th hour and stop her from attaining the nomination. She is disastrous in every sense of the word and this is why Trump is rising in the election polls. Sanders is the only one that can beat Trump.

  6. Bandolero
    May 24, 2016, 12:08 pm

    Good news. Hallelujah!

    May I ask my dear fellow commenters a little OT favor?

    It’s about this election and media. My impression is that the “HuffPost pollster” manipulates it’s charts to make Hillary look good. Besides RealClearPolitics the HuffPo Pollster is one of the major poll trackers and aggregate builders, so it’s likely very influential on forming opinion. The web address is here:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster

    It seems to me the HuffPo people deliberately manipulate their charts in Hillary’s favour with the “Smoothing” parameters. I will describe what I believe about how they do it in some steps comparing charts. Please try it yourself and tell me your opinion, whether I’m right.

    1st round: Look at the “2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton” chart, click on it to go on the detail page for Trump vs Clinton. While looking at the chart click on the “Customize this chart” button. Then select the “Less Smoothing” option. What I get as a result of selecting the “Less Smoothing option instead of the “Moderate Option” looks like a more “smoothed” chart. It may look like a random misfunction but to me it looks like the less smoothed chart looks better for Clinton.

    But now round 2: Look at the “2016 National Democratic Primary” chart, click on it to go on the detail page for Clinton vs Sanders. Now again, while looking at the chart click on the “Customize this chart” button (having javascript enabled in your browser). What I get by “Customize this chart” is that the chart changes to a more smoothed version, what more looks like that Sanders will soon overtake Clinton. When I select then the “Less Smoothing” option instead of “Moderate” I get the chart the Huffpo displays on it’s start page.

    So, to me it looks like the Huffpo features the “Less Smoothing” option on it’s start page calling it the “official chart” – and it looks better in both cases for Hillary. And somehow it seems to have produced an error in Clinton vs Sanders customize option.

    But it doesn’t seem a random error to me, because in other charts it all works fine:

    Round 3: Go to HuffPo pollster start page, select “past primary races”, then cgo to on “2016 New Hampshire Republican Presidential Primary” and click on “customize this chart”, try change “smoothing” to “less smoothing” and all is perfect. Customize this chart starts with the official chart and the “less smoothing” option produces a chart which is less smooth. All fine – but the race is not important anymore, because it’s finishes. But on important races like “Trump vs Clinton” or “Clinton vs Sanders” the HuffPo chart programm has mistakes – or hastily programmed default display options – benefitting Clinton.

    What do you think, am I right that this is a serious indication – or even proof – for an intentional attempt of HuffPo to make Hillary good by manipulating the HuffPo Pollster chart in a way that serves Hillary Clinton?

  7. David Doppler
    May 24, 2016, 12:40 pm

    I think the effort to fuse Sanders activism onto a Hillary – XXXXX ticket will ultimately fail, because Hillary is a shill for the establishment: Shillary she is.

    Trying to reconcile the Netanyahu-government-manipulated establishment position on Israel with impassioned activism for Palestinian justice reminds of Nixon going out to talk to the activists on the Mall – starkly fascinating in its dissonance, a last exercise before the failed war-policy is abandoned, its progenitors all discredited and eventually run from office (but not alas further held accountable). Having the DNC and the party nominee attempting to manage that kind of revolution in world view under the microscope of the general election, with Wasserman-Schultz poised to lose her seat to an academic challenger in August, with Lieberman in Israel ready to launch wars, and with Trump there to ridicule Hillary’s every misstep, is a recipe for a Democratic disaster.

  8. Ossinev
    May 24, 2016, 12:42 pm

    @hophmi
    “I have no problem with a platform that recognizes that the Palestinian right to a state. Most of you do, however, because you won’t be happy unless the platform calls for an end to the Jewish state”

    You have self hasbarised into missing the plot old son – or perhaps the awful reality is dawning.

    Most of “us ” are way way way past the point of believing that a Palestinian state is remotely achievable or more to the point remotely desirable as in the mirage of the 2SS. “We” IMHO are convinced however that the only way forward is a state for all between the Jordan and the Med with full democratic rights for all be they Jews,Muslims,Christians,Scientologists,Seventh Day Adventists,Atheists,Pagans ( whatever) as in 21st AD century Western Civilisation Democracy as opposed to 2000 BC Biblical Theocracy.

    • hophmi
      May 25, 2016, 12:45 am

      Which you’re calling for in no other state in the region. Curious.

      • oldgeezer
        May 25, 2016, 11:17 am

        @hophmi

        Only curious if you are incredibly dense. Which other nation in the region is in control of territory, busy stealing the territory of others, claiming the land is theirs while denying the inhabitants citizenship.

        Get back to Israeli territory and a 2SS is feasible. Otherwise the call for a 1SS will continue to increase. You are bringing this on yourselves. Just as you are doing with BDS.

      • eljay
        May 25, 2016, 12:31 pm

        || Ossinev: … “We” IMHO are convinced however that the only way forward is a state for all between the Jordan and the Med with full democratic rights for all … ||

        || hophmi: Which you’re calling for in no other state in the region. Curious. ||

        Which other state in the region between the Jordan and the Med has he omitted from his proposal? Curious.

  9. Henry Norr
    May 24, 2016, 12:45 pm

    Curious historical note: the “somebody from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal workers” among the Clinton picks for the platform committee is Paul Booth, who was national secretary of SDS in the mid-1960s and presided over the first national demo against the war in Vietnam in April, 1965. In those days, of course, Palestine wasn’t at all an issue for SDS, as far as I can remember, and he’s spent the last half century in the labor movement, and now he’s apparently with Clinton, so I don’t have very high hopes.
    for him.

    And then among the Wasserman Schultz picks there’s Rep. Barbara Lee, the self-styled “renegade for peace and justice” who’s never dared offend the Zionists, despite the best efforts of many of her constituents over many years to get her to face the truth about Israel.

    At a minimum, the platform-drafting could be interesting! I’m sure it will actually be hashed out behind closed doors, but does anyone know whether this committee will hold open sessions, before or during the convention?

  10. xanadou
    May 24, 2016, 5:43 pm

    Trump leads Clinton in polls:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-polling-average-rcp-polls-2016-5

    This reminds of the 1944 elections and the massive loss to the country’s then-future and our-present that came with the defeat of Wallace at the hands of dem dino apparatchiks. What followed in place of the dashed great hopes that had come with the massive popular support for Wallace was the hell of Hiroshima, endless lost wars, coups and colonial ambitions pursued on three continents.

    Wallace lived in an era dominated by the swamp created by corporate media, the corp/milit/ind complex, and corrupt billionaires.
    We live in the info age, and I hope that the populace will put the gizmos that connect us into a community with a shared determination for a just future, to their intended use. Or we’re so screwed…

    Inasmuch as I hope that Sanders makes it to the general elections, come what may, his decision to bring the Palestinian issues into the global sunlight, by a Jew and once-upon-a-time kibutznik, brings much needed hope. Who knows, it might even inspire our lawmakers to reconsider their cowardly obeisance to Nutcase, the ugly bouncer, et al. This might even inspire other governments to do the same. What a concept…

    • xanadou
      May 24, 2016, 7:43 pm

      Even better polling news:
      “Poll: Sanders Ahead of Trump by 15 Points, Clinton Just by Three”
      http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36151-poll-sanders-ahead-of-trump-by-15-points-hillary-just-by-3

      I hope this trend holds.

      • a blah chick
        May 24, 2016, 9:10 pm

        Clinton is a crappy candidate but if she loses to Trump neither she nor her supporters will accept blame. They’ll turn their ire on people like us.

      • yonah fredman
        May 25, 2016, 5:16 am

        It is feasible that Sanders would beat Trump whereas Clinton will not. It is also feasible that Clinton can beat Trump whereas Sanders would not. Clinton is indeed a very weak candidate, but the strength of Sanders cannot be determined by polls taken in May before most of the American public has more than a few hours information on Sanders.

  11. JLewisDickerson
    May 24, 2016, 6:06 pm

    RE: “Clinton, a Methodist Golda Meir compared to secular Sanders, told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in March that Israel’s security is ‘non-negotiable’.” ~ Wilson Dizard

    MY COMMENT: And, Netanyahu (or his successor) will insist that Israel’s keeping the Jordan Valley (and perhaps the rest of Area C) is a critical component of Israel’s security – meaning that Israel’s keeping the Jordan Valley (and perhaps the remainder of Area C) is, according to Hillary Clinton, NON-NEGOTIABLE (even in “negotiations without preconditions”</a*).

    * PM: I’m ready for negotiations without preconditions | September 1, 2015 – http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pm-im-ready-for-negotiations-without-preconditions/

    AS YOGI SAID: “It’s like déjà vu all over again.”

    Published on Jul 14, 2014

    Here’s the transcript:

    ● Bibi: Today everyone understands the slogan “The settlements are here”. It is everywhere. What’s the difference? What do you think Arafat wants? He wants one big settlement that is called Tel Aviv. As far as they are concerned, I think, the territorial waters are also theirs.That they want us to be pushed into the sea, is obvious, but only further away…The main thing is, first of all, to strike them, not once but several times, so painfully that the price they pay will be unbearable. SO far, the price-tag is not unbearable.[I mean] a large-scale attack on the Palestinian Authority, causing them to fear that everything is about to collapse. Fear is what brings them to…
    ● Woman: Hold on, but then again, “the world” will say that we’re aggressors.
    ● Bibi: They can say whatever they want
    Woman: Aren’t you afraid of what they’ll say, Bibi?
    ● Bibi: NO. Especially today, with the US. I know how they are. American is something that you can easily maneuver, and move in the right direction.
    And even if they say something….So then they say something, so what? 80% of Americans support us! It’s absurd! We have such support there
    , and here we’re thinking what we should do “if”…
    Look I wasn’t afraid to maneuver [the Clinton administration]
    I wasn’t afraid to confront Clinton. I wasn’t afraid to go against the UN.

    What happened with the Oslo Accords?

    ● Bibi: The Accords, which were ratified by Parliament – I was asked before the (1996) elections: “Will you fulfil them?” I said:”Yes, subject to reciprocity, and minimizing pull-outs” But how can one minimize the [obliged] pull-outs? I gave my own interpretation to the agreements, in such a way-that will allow me to stop the race back towards the 1967 borders. How did we manage to do this? Nobody defined what “military facilities” are. So I also defined them as being security zones. The entire Jordan valley, for me, is a “military Facility”. Nobody has…
    ● Woman: Yes. Like the Beit She’an valley
    ● Bibi – You see, go figure. But then there was the question of who will define these “Military Facilities”? I received a letter from (Secretary of State, Warren] Christopher to me and to Arafat at the same time saying that Israel, and Israel alone, will define the “military Facilities”, their locations and size. Now, they didn’t want to give this letter. so I refused to ratify the Hebron Accords (of 1997). I stopped the governmental meeting and I said: “I won’t sign”. And only when the letter has arrived, during that meeting, to me and to Arafat, I signed the Hebron Accords. Or ratified it, if to be exact, it was already signed. Why is this important. Because at that very moment, in fact, I halted the fulfilment of the Oslo Agreements. It’s better to give 2% than 100%. And this is the choice we’re facing. You give 2%, but you stopped the withdrawals, rather than 100%. The wisdom is not to be there and break, but rather to be there and pay the minimum.

    ● Settler: Amen, as a Prime Minister

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    LINK – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCyvzwBNxMg

    • Marnie
      May 25, 2016, 5:59 am

      “SO far, the price-tag is not unbearable.” And he said this in the midst of the last incursion on Gaza?

      I knew he was behind all of those ‘price tag’ special Ops. Really a shame this wasn’t shown on american mainstream news media.

      • Marnie
        May 25, 2016, 10:28 am

        Whoops – this was from 2001.

        Okay. I knew he was behind that ‘price tag’ special Ops on the world trade center.

      • hophmi
        May 26, 2016, 11:38 am

        “Okay. I knew he was behind that ‘price tag’ special Ops on the world trade center. ”

        8. This is not a site to discuss 9/11 theories. This discussion turns into a huge distraction, is not central to the life of the site, and is a drag on the moderators. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/policy/#sthash.ERyhlGnU.dpuf

      • Mooser
        May 26, 2016, 4:49 pm

        “Hophmi” if you opened your own blog, you could moderate all the comments. Don’t you think that would be more fun than pretending?

      • Marnie
        May 27, 2016, 2:06 am

        Hophni – what took you so long? Lemme break it down for you. The first post about ‘price-tag’ I was serious about. Then I realized it was from 2001 so I couldn’t stop myself from cracking wise about ol’ blue hair being behind 9/11. Get the smelling salts and just chill.

        And yet, it wasn’t moderated and Annie didn’t break out her international ruler to slap my hands with. I think (hope) it was understood that I wasn’t serious but if you or anyone else (except for ol’ blue hair) were offended, I’m sorry.

    • JLewisDickerson
      May 30, 2016, 1:29 pm

      P.S. AS YOGI SAID: “It’s like déjà vu all over again.”

      shocking: Netanyahu speaks in private to settlers about his agenda and view of Americans.

  12. Kay24
    May 24, 2016, 7:24 pm

    One of the main causes of Islamophobia:

    “In the post 9/11 era, several studies conducted by think tanks and academic institutions have demonstrated the alarming portrayal of Islam by Western mainstream press. A study conducted by MediaTenor of US, British and German media coverage of Islam revealed that most stories related to Islam were negative. While many positive stories were found on Christianity and Judaism, there were hardly any about Islam and Muslims. A report by Cardiff University found that two-thirds of the nearly 1000 articles examined between the time period 2000-2008 considered British Muslims a ‘threat’ and a ‘problem’.

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/new-study-shows-just-how-warped-and-warlike-mainstream-media-coverage-islam

  13. Ossinev
    May 25, 2016, 2:27 pm

    @hophmi
    “Which you’re calling for in no other state in the region. Curious”

    What about ? Yawn.

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