Using Rep. Johnson’s innocent comment to stain his reputation was the real crime

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Its always the same story. Normal people make a statement with no intended malice. If they were on the “right” (correct) side of the Israeli/Palestinian divide and used the same word or phrase it would pass by unnoticed. But if your politics is not to the liking of a small group of Jewish American that serve as gatekeepers on any critical discussion of Israel, they will turn your innocuous statement into an excerpt of Mein Kampf.

A few days ago in Philadelphia, a  member of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Hank Johnson (D., Ga.) gave his impression of his recent trip to the occupied territories.

“There has been a steady [stream]– almost like termites can get into a residence and eat before you know that you’ve been eaten up and you fall in on yourself– there has been settlement activity that has marched forward with impunity and at an ever increasing rate to the point where it has become alarming,”

“It has come to the point that occupation, with highways that cut through Palestinian land, with walls that go up, with the inability or the restriction, with the illegality of Palestinians being able to travel on those roads and those roads cutting off Palestinian neighborhoods from each other,.. And then with the building of walls and the building of check points that restrict movement of Palestinians. We’ve gotten to the point where the thought of a Palestinian homeland gets further and further removed from reality.”

To state the obvious, the word “termites” was used as a description of the settlements encroaching on Palestinian  territory and is clearly not referring to human beings.

Lets check in on  the ADL in the midst of its “Imagine the world without hate campaign.”

The ADL’s response to the description by Rep. Hank Johnson of what’s been happening on the ground in the “occupied territories,” was this:

and this:

And without Jonathan Greenblatt, the new CEO of the ADL, who replaced the greatest enemy of hatred ever, Abe Foxman, who would even know that that the seemingly-sincere apology made by Rep Johnson wouldn’t be enough to  atone for  the magnitude of  the crime?

Then:

Perhaps the reality of the situation might be dawning on Rep. Hank Johnson at this point. And he realizes that saying settlement activity undermines the two state solution might even be more “antisemitic” to  Jonathan Greenblatt than using the word “termites” in describing settlement activity. Because if the high and mighty Jonathan Greenblatt talks down to Presidential candidate  Sen Bernie Sanders like he did when Senator Sanders committed a “blood libel” by being confused about the number of Palestinians killed by Israel during the last Gaza war, how would Mr. Greenblatt treat  a lowly congressman from Georgia?

Best to tell him exactly what he wants to hear:

But the ADL is just the ADL. Rep. Johnson’s work is not done. The shakedown continues.

Here is Rabbi David Wolpe writing for Time Magazine online. It is worth quoting the Rabbi at length:

On Monday a Democratic U.S. congressman said that Jewish settlers in Israel were “like termites.” Now, you might be tempted to not take Rep. Hank Johnson from Georgia seriously if I explain that this is the same congressman who expressed a fear in 2010 that the island of Guam might capsize if it were overpopulated. But he is on the House Armed Services committee. And a penchant for foolish statements does not excuse an anti-Semitic smear.

Apparently he apologized. Or did he? This was his tweet: [email protected]_NationalPoor choice of words – apologies for offense. Point is settlement activity continues slowly undermine 2-state solution.” The Anti-Defamation League tweeted back that they “appreciate” his clarification. That would have been far more convincing had the congressman apologized, but he did not. To apologize for “offense” is to say you are sorry that someone else feels the way they do. That is not an apology. “I am sorry I said something stupid and anti-Semitic”—that would have been a fitting apology.

These are not trivial issues. We are a half century away from millions of human beings who were designated as “vermin” and killed. When people say the Nazis “exterminated” Jews they unwittingly appropriate this insect metaphor. To call Jews “termites” is base and vile…

You don’t know a good person by the fact that they never say anything objectionable. Everyone in the public eye, used to speaking rivers of words, will choose badly at times. While it is true that not everyone will make a racist, sexist or anti-Semitic remark, we can try to be generous and allow some leeway. But a good person will be horrified when they realize what they have said. They will not apologize for someone else’s taking offense, but for their own insensitivity and cruelty.

That is what the congressman should have done. That is what he, pointedly, did not do.

Draw your own conclusion.

Yes, let’s take Rabbi Wolpe’s advice and draw our own conclusions. My conclusion is that the first mistake Rep Johnson or anyone else in his spot can make is to apologize. Because as he and everyone else should know by now, it’s not ultimately about the “termites”. His tormentors aren’t looking for an apology. The “crime” for these people  is that a congressman from Georgia is too sympathetic to Palestinians, and too critical of Israel. Once found “guilty” of that, you have to be very fortunate not at some point to accidentally walk into one of their “tropes” or “canards” and they will be waiting for you.

Think about how all this came about. One ethically challenged Journalist, named Adam Kredo, decided to create a “blood libel” against a congressman. Why? Most likely because he doesn’t like the Congressman position on Israel/ Palestine, and because why not? Maybe he was bored. His values wouldn’t have stopped him. 

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He has seen people like Jeffrey Goldberg win all sorts of ADL awards. No journalist ethics are expected when working on behalf of the Jewish people. In fact  your unscrupulous, tendentious, and defamatory skills will be roundly celebrated.

 

And I have yet to see even one of them show any remorse for the lives and reputations they have successfully and unsuccessfully tried to  ruin. But most importantly there has never been a price to pay for the defamation and poison and hate  these people contribute to the world.

A shocking and scandalous irony is that these days Jews are very well protected from ancient blood libels, that their loudest and most aggressive “defenders” are always clamoring about. It is their enemies that need protection from them. Rep Hank Johnson will never be able to remove this horrible stain on his name. (See below for examples of this travesty.) It is hard to overstate the Twilight Zone-like reality he now finds himself in.

Let’s see the great “intellectual” journal Commentary’s take on all of this.  The ADL is a sell out to the Goyim! Of things like this it is said, “truth is stranger than fiction.”

You have to read the whole article to fully appreciate the alternative reality these Jewish “intellectuals” live in.

Let me try to put it in a different way how surreal  this whole thing is. Say Mr. Johnson upon entering his car after the “termite” roundtable discussion fell asleep from exhaustion, and the good Congressman then dreamt that an angel was telling him that in reward for all his life’s good he would be granted anything he wished, but only under one condition.

And that condition is he had to predict what it was he had said earlier in the discussion about Israel/Palestine that would set off a furor in the next few days. I am a betting man and I would bet Rep. Johnson would not have a clue what the answer to that question is. So what exactly is this man guilty of? On every other “sensitivity” but their own, these Jewish intellectuals show utter condescending contempt.

Oh but if someone says the word “termites” in relation even to “Jewish structures,” to “Jewish settlements.” It’s a crime against humanity and that person’s life ought to be ruined. This is the actual political correctness run amok in our culture, which all are afraid to contradict.

How can such outrages against good  people like Rep. Jackson continue to go on and on? I believe Rabbi Wolpe himself supplies us with the answer.

These are not trivial issues. We are a half century away from millions of human beings who were designated as “vermin” and killed.

These issues are indeed not trivial. As soon as some Jewish “authority” waves around the Holocaust card, the rest of the world is intimidated into silence, even at the expense  of a totally innocent Congressman. Who in their right mind wants these people as enemies? But there still must be quiet outrage about these people’s behavior. And  while many may be intimidated into silence they don’t turn their brains off. They know what Rep Johnson said in that room about settlements has zero to do with the Holocaust. And they see how the Holocaust is obscenely used for political gain; Hank Johnson’s position on Israel/Palestine now has an asterisk attached. “He thinks Jews are vermin.”

And everyone with eyes in their head sees that the quickest and the loudest to accuse the innocent of cheapening the “Holocaust” and “antisemitism” are the biggest cheapeners themselves. This is the world we live in.

Maybe someone like Peter Beinart will want to take this issue up. I know he is very concerned about Donald Trump, but there are a thousand journalists, as one, mocking and ridiculing and judging Donald Trump.  There are no journalists, however, as far as i can tell, who have influence in the Jewish community who are coming to the defense of this innocent man.  So no indeed Rabbi Wolpe: these aren’t trivial issues.

I guess one can say in Rabbi Wolpe’s defense that he finally forgave Rep. Johnson, which in this witch hunt environment makes Rabbi Wolpe seem almost open minded.

As an American Jew, if i didn’t know any better I might be concerned that this type of  relentless public unjust defamation of good men by Jews with Jewish agendas, and Jewish organizations with Jewish agendas, and Jewish magazines with Jewish agendas, might create some resentment of Jews. So it’s a great relief to me to know, that nothing Jews do or don’t do causes anti-semitism, and in fact to even consider that anti-semitism is a possible reaction to Jewish behavior is in itself a sign of anti-Semitism. Oops!

And I have this to say to Rabbi Wolpe. I have learnt from your Torah musings.

Maybe you can learn from mine. As I read your Time article about Rep. Johnson and got to the part on Guam, I recalled something I learnt  in yeshiva when i was much younger. Baba Mezia is the first tractate most Yeshiva boys start with. Maybe it was so long ago that Rabbi Wolpe forgets its lesson, how serious it is to embarrass someone in public. So let me be helpful and remind you.

The Talmud (Baba Metzia 59a) tells us that it would be better for a person to allow himself to be tossed into a furnace than to willingly embarrass another person. (This is derived from Tamar, who was willing to be burned rather than shame Yehuda in Genesis chapter 38.)

On the previous page (58b), the Talmud says that one who shames another in public, causing the blood to drain from his face, is comparable to a murderer.

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  1. lipper213
    July 30, 2016, 5:09 pm

    Johnson was clearly describing creeping annexation. Ayeled Shaked, Israeli member of Parliament, referred to Palestinian children as young snakes. I wonder if the critics of Johnson, who did not refer to Jews as termites, were outraged by Shaked’s comments.

  2. JLewisDickerson
    July 30, 2016, 5:23 pm

    RE: “Using Rep. Johnson’s innocent comment to stain his reputation was the real crime”

    ■ Georgia GOP [entirely controlled by the Christian fundamentalists ~ J.L.D. ] calls for Hank Johnson to resign after he likens Israel’s settlement policy to ‘termites’ – http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/26/georgia-gop-calls-for-hank-johnson-to-resign-after-he-likens-israels-settlement-policy-to-termites/

    TAKE ACTION – Jewish Voice for Peace: Please Thank Rep. Hank Johnson – http://www.care2.com/news/member/312733850/3971696

  3. inbound39
    July 30, 2016, 9:26 pm

    The whole argument put forth by ADL is a simple duck for cover. A move to avoid being exposed. Is it petty…most certainly but like any guilty party they grab at any deflection to avoid the covers being raised on their dirty little secret. It is becoming impossible for Israeli Jews to hide their dirty little secret and if they want to avoid being compared to insect life that devours forests and crops etc then all they have to do is cease and desist from such abhorrent behaviour. What they are doing is defending the indefensible. If they were not engaging in unacceptable behaviour,illegitimate behaviour, wrongful and immoral behaviour then they would not come under attack. Some might say or use another analogy…If you cannot stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. ADL forgets that the World stood in absolute disgust when the truth of the Nazi extermination program of Jews became known in WW2. Many anologies of a distasteful kind were made about Germans and some would argue it was justly deserved. That their behaviour toward Jews justified such distasteful remarks. Is ADL saying that the World should simply accept similar behaviour by Israeli Jews toward Palestinians? That their distasteful actions should not draw distasteful anologies? Or maybe we should just turn a blind eye to Israeli murderous actions? Or maybe we should applaud them for Israeli innovation in removing a whole ethnic group from the land? ADL is an adult organisation and conducts adult business. It has choices in life. It can behave in an acceptable manner or face the consequences for supporting and acting complicitly with its parent nation. Fact is their is no need for Americans to listen to Israeli Foreign Agents like ADL or AIPAC at all and it is high time Americans showed them the door. That a country like Israel is not welcome in their fold…that peaceful human beings do not conduct themselves like Israeli’s do. Israeli’s have no right to criticise,comment or pass judgement on anyone until they stop behaving like their former abusers. And if they choose to continue then life for them will become increasingly uncomfortable because good people are not going to go quietly into the night to suit them.

    • Mooser
      July 31, 2016, 11:52 am

      “The Talmud (Baba Metzia 59a) tells us that it would be better…”

      Being willing to ignore the Talmud in order to smear non-Jews, in the name of Zionism. What could be better?

      They just might send Yakov a thank-you note for pointing it out chapter and verse.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        July 31, 2016, 9:08 pm

        Mooser, Im just trying to show off and get invited to Jeffrey Goldbergs Talmud study group of David Brooks, David Gregory, and Martin Indyk, and break out a deck of cards and say, poker anyone?
        http://shameproject.com/profile/jeffrey-goldberg/

      • Mooser
        July 31, 2016, 11:24 pm

        “Shame?” Jeffry Goldberg? et al?
        Talk about bringing a water-pistol to a gun-fight!

        Of course, he might wonder why you are posting his resume for him.

    • tarheelnm
      August 1, 2016, 11:01 am

      Well said.

  4. lonely rico
    July 30, 2016, 10:10 pm

    It is sickening that one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century,
    (there were several)
    has been so cheapened by Zionists/Zionism.

    “termites” benign creatures,
    compared to cruel criminal Zionism,

    daily
    destroying, maiming, murdering.

    No apology needed Rep. Hank Johnson;
    some in the USA who love Israel above all
    do not appreciate your voice,
    Some do, and history will vindicate you.

  5. Marnie
    July 31, 2016, 12:04 am

    Also please note all of Jon66 comments on the other thread about Congressman Johnson. Looking at the comments in the article, it’s not hard to see where Jon66 gets his inspiration from.

    The vilification of this man is unbelievable, but its only just begun. They won’t be satisfied until they’ve murdered him (politically).

    I don’t recall any condemnation of the israeli penchant for calling Palestinians everything but children of God. Wild beasts, animals, snakes, filth, etc., and not a peep.

    And the conflation of settlements with people? So we are at the point now where condemning a structure or comparing the structure to the structures of termites is enough to invoke the holocaust?

  6. Marnie
    July 31, 2016, 1:00 am

    Has anyone of prominence who has been called a nazi, antisemite, etc., ever sued the provocateur for libel?

    Jews can get away with murder (political/social) just by calling someone antisemitic. Why is this allowed to continue? We have only ourselves to blame for allowing this libel to continue unchecked, to the point now that comparing a structure to the action of termites the same as calling the inhabitants of said structures termites. If anyone could actually be called a termite, it would be the US, the UK and all the other enablers, investors in the settlement enterprise.

    He should have NEVER apologized.

    • JWalters
      July 31, 2016, 6:36 pm

      Great idea! I’d love to see someone sue the ADL or one of their collaborators for character assassination! These BS accusations of anti-Semitism are yelling “fire!” in a crowded theater. They are polluting civilized discourse. Let’s have a big, public court case with lots of attention and discussion. Make them back up their ridiculous slander with actual facts, not merely more name-calling.

  7. Talkback
    July 31, 2016, 3:44 am

    If Zionists would compare any activity of Nonjews to the activity of termites it would be condemned, too. The only difference between Zionists and Johnson is that he describes an activity that is not only illegal for Jews while Zionists would describe an activity of Nonjews that is a human right.

  8. K Renner
    July 31, 2016, 3:47 am

    John Greenblatt: a termite in need of insecticide.

    Come at me, hasbarats. Guess what I referred to you as there? No insult intended to innocent rodents, BTW.

  9. jert
    July 31, 2016, 10:37 am

    Is it too much to say that referring to other human beings as destructive insects or rodent pestsn(whether talking about Jews, Palestians, or others is a bad idea? Adhering to this would avoid a lot of problems.

    • Annie Robbins
      July 31, 2016, 11:16 am

      strawman. is it too much to say that contorting another’s words and meaning [“referring to other human beings as destructive insects or rodent pests…. is a bad idea”] to enable your hasbara victimhood narrative and evade the all too horrendous reality that settlement expansion is the termite turning not just very idea of a palestinian state to dust, but the physical reality as well?

      seriously, is it too much to ask? or are you actually so mentally challenged you can’t comprehend what was stated by the congressperson? or don’t you think settlements and land are actually physical things? do you confuse them for “people”. because y’know, people can be put on buses and shipped out — they can be transferred somewhere. they can also be physically prevented from standing on their own land. and olive grove and a home can be dug up, bulldozed and turned to dust. did you know that? or are you that dense jert?

      so, tell us again why you would perpetuate the lie that the congressperson called jews termites. because you’re a run of the mill hasbara tool or because you’re mentally challenged?

      • jert
        August 1, 2016, 9:27 am

        Had you bothered to read the above article, you might have noticed that the Congressman himself conceded that he made “a poor choice of words.” I guess you believe that by doing so he too is “perpetuating a lie.”

      • echinococcus
        August 1, 2016, 2:15 pm

        Jert,

        Had you bothered to investigate, you’d have seen that this Congresscreature was installed by dint of the combined might of Zionist mafias at the national level and moocho millions spent in outrageous propaganda to unseat Dr. Cynthia McKinney. She had incurred the ire of the Zionists, I can’t imagine why.
        So this guy is the Zionists’ bought and paid for house… congressman. So the thing that should be underlined is not so much that he apologized to his owners, it’s that even he couldn’t hold himself (all that is assuming, of course, that AIPAC would not waste good money to replace an enemy by another one.)

      • Annie Robbins
        August 1, 2016, 3:35 pm

        he was trying to get a monkey off his back. (that is an idiom — i don’t mean it literally http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/a+monkey+on+back ). apologizing for offense is a formality — as is saying poor choice of words. it does not mean he called jews termites.

        and you’re still perpetuating the lie like a run of the mill hasbrat propagandist.

    • Annie Robbins
      July 31, 2016, 11:38 am

      jert, i’m wondering what you think of jewish dominionists who believe non jews souls come from satan?

      “the bodies [of non jews] should be considered as completely different species… 2 contrary types of soul exist .. a non jewish soul” comes from satanic spheres! can you tell the difference between a specific reference to people vs a twisted contortion of someone else’s meaning to pretend they are referencing people?

      • Raphael
        July 31, 2016, 12:12 pm

        Interesting, when I was living in Israel I seen posters of Menachem Mendel Schneerson everywhere in Israel; even in the apartment I rented, had a out of date calendar with his picture on it. I of course knew where he was coming from before I moved there as a citizen.

        I think some even say he is on the family tree of King David. I ironically have names on my family tree that are on the family tree of King David.

        I was thinking about that while I was living there; how even in the time of Jesus, it was more multicultural to live there then it is to-day; but here I am in the twenty first century as a citizen of Israel prohibited from even mentioning that I’m a Catholic Jew, in public. And, I probably have about the same amount of Jewish blood as Menachem Mendel Schneerson; and, I may even have royal blue blood in the line of King David; but I’m not even considered Jewish because my mother is not Jewish.

      • Mooser
        July 31, 2016, 12:53 pm

        ” I ironically have names on my family tree that are on the family tree of King David.”

        Well, prepare to bend the knee, and make your tongue give homage, “Raphael” cause King David is my actual, real great, great, great, great, great, great, great, (and etc.) grandfather!
        The entire genealogy is inscribed on a middy-blouse my Mother wore at her Bas-Mitzvah.
        All strictly legit, too. No wrong-side-of-the-blanket stuff for us!
        It is signed by a minion of Chef Rabbis, too.
        After all, you can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometime…

        “I may even have royal blue blood in the line of King David;”

        No, it’s more likely you are a Romanov Prince who survived the Bolsheviks, and should be Autocrat of all Russia. Welcome back, non-clotter.

      • Mooser
        July 31, 2016, 1:02 pm

        “Interesting, when I was living in Israel I seen posters of Menachem Mendel Schneerson everywhere in Israel;”

        Oh, really, out of 200 million Jews, how many are followers of Schneerson?

      • Mooser
        July 31, 2016, 10:57 pm

        “blouse my Mother wore at her Bas-Mitzvah”

        I was so disappointed when I found out that being Bar-Mitzvah didn’t mean I could start ordering drinks at thirteen.

      • Talkback
        August 1, 2016, 2:44 am

        Only Jewish dominionists?

        “Most Jewish first-graders attend ultra-Orthodox and religious schools. The majority of them are educated along the lines of “The King’s Torah.” A Jew is human. A non-Jew is non-human. “Thou shalt not kill” does not apply to non-Jews. And this is not delivered in the form of incitement, but as a simple statement of a fact. As simple as calling a chair a chair.”
        http://www.haaretz.com/the-racist-entity-that-is-taking-over-israel-must-be-toppled-1.345929

      • Annie Robbins
        August 1, 2016, 3:52 am

        that’s an incredible article talkback. in curiosity i googled “the convicted terrorist Livini” and figured out it was Menachem Livni — jewish terrorist murder ringleader convicted http://articles.latimes.com/1985-07-10/news/mn-7604_1_west-bank and then pardoned. are there any jewish terrorists serving life sentences for killing a palestinian? ever? or are they always set free? anyway…from wiki

        Their activities ranged from placing incendiary bombs in vehicles owned by members of the Palestinian National Guidance Committee, an assault on Palestinian students at a college in Hebron and an operation that nearly succeeded in blowing up the Dome of the Rock Mosque on the Temple Mount/Haram al Sharif. An attempt to booby-trap a bus that transported Palestinian workers in East Jerusalem was discovered by the Shin Bet in 1984, and the exposure of the Jerusalem bus bombing operation led to a crackdown and trials which effectively ended the group’s operations.[10] The idea also circulated that acts of terror against Palestinians would hasten their exit from their homeland.[1] The movement rejected the democratic foundations of Israel.[16]

        Operations

        Car-bombings of the mayors[edit]
        Menachem Livni built many of the bombs used in the attacks.[13] On June 2, 1980,[1] the group carried out a series of terror attacks, including car bomb attacks against Palestinian officials. As a result of these attacks, two senior Palestinian figures were maimed for life: Bassam Shakaa, the mayor of Nablus lost both of his legs and Karim Khalaf, the mayor of Ramallah, lost one of his legs.[17][18] A third victim targeted, El Bireh mayor Ibrahim Tawil, was saved when the device planted in his car was discovered.[3] Spokesmen for Gush Emunim were variously reported as reacting with comments like, ‘Well organized, very good work’, and ‘I hope that the Jews did it‘.[1] On hearing the news, co-founder of Gush Emunim, rabbi Haim Drukman, is said to have exclaimed, citing the Song of Deborah, ‘Thus may all Israel’s enemies perish!'[19]

        Attack on students at the Islamic College in Hebron[edit]

        In retaliation for the murder of Aharon Gross, a student in a Hebron satellite yeshivah of Mercaz HaRav Kook,[20] in an operation masterminded by Livni,[21] three operatives of the group, Shaul Nir, Barak Nir and Uzi Sharbaf, wearing ski masks,[22] launched an attack on the Islamic College in Hebron on July 26, 1983. On arriving at the target, off a crowded Hebron street, Nir fired two bursts from his Kalashnikov in the air to signal that the area was clear. Uzi Sharbaf drove up to join him in a Peugeot 504 which stopped in front of the college. Both then entered the courtyard and fired into the students. Barak Nir, Shaul’s brother, stood by the car and sprayed shots at students on the second floor who had been drawn to the windows to find out what the tumult was about. His brother Shaul and Sharbaf then entered the college and tossed a grenade into a corridor where a student council had been convened.[11][12] They then withdrew, burnt the evidence and hid out at Gariam’s home in the Golan Heights.[11] Three students were killed and 33 wounded.[21][23][24]

        now he’s a “farmer”

        Former Jewish Underground Convict Receives More Than NIS 1.3 Million From State
        The Israel Tax Authority paid him compensation for damage he suffered while cultivating land illegally in a Palestinian village
        – and he is suing for more.

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/former-jewish-underground-convict-receives-more-than-nis-1-3-million-from-state.premium-1.503357

        again, are there any jewish terrorists serving life sentences for killing a palestinian? or doesn’t that count as murder by the state of israel. maybe it’s like killing a cow or a sheep in their twisted world.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 2:05 pm

        “blouse my Mother wore…”

        I will never forget my Bra-Mitzvah, of course. A happy and meaningful occasion.

    • oldgeezer
      July 31, 2016, 12:00 pm

      @jert

      You raise a valid point although in this particular case no such reference was made.

      Humanity would be greatly served if someone taught this lesson to the GoI, particularly the cabinet ministers as they regularly make such references.

      • echinococcus
        July 31, 2016, 12:22 pm

        Jert,
        “referring to other human beings as destructive insects or rodent pests” is an intolerably careless, in fact meaningless wording.

        There is a huge difference between
        – stating that (a) person(s) are considered non-human or a different species of human (as all racists, foremost among them the Zionists do)
        and
        – comparing a behavior to that of a given animal or machine (“don’t be an ass!”, “The Empress is the dove of peace”)

        The Mestervolk settlers in Palestine, no matter if settled within the post-67 conquest or not, and even for Zionists and their criminal allies the ones in post-1967 conquered areas, are criminals against humanity. That is the main thing that’s settled about them.

        It would be inappropriate to apply to these anatomically human beings their own racism and pretend that they are another species.
        The only drawback of comparing their behavior to that of the most destructive animals on earth is that such a comparison is an offense to said animals.

  10. Jon66
    July 31, 2016, 12:19 pm

    Did anyone here know that to win his seat Rep. Johnson defeated Cynthia McKinney in the primary?

    • echinococcus
      July 31, 2016, 12:31 pm

      Meaning that Johnson is an uppity pipsqueak for not showing due reverence to the Zionist mafia who paid through the nose to make him what he is, so Zionist millions will go to buy the seat for next guy. Nice.

      • gamal
        July 31, 2016, 12:53 pm

        echinococcus

        glen ford discusses black leadership, corey booker is front and center. the empire is all about education these days the yousoufzai’s are fighting this war on the eastern front, which corey is doing way out west.

        https://youtu.be/TwqfMJsb1Lo

      • Jon66
        July 31, 2016, 2:34 pm

        I just thought it was interesting that he was responsible for the defeat of one of the most anti-Israel politicians in the US. Uppity is not a word I would ever use.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 31, 2016, 5:18 pm

        he was responsible for the defeat of one of the most anti-Israel politicians in the US.

        oh please! it took a lil aipac village, we all know that.

      • Citizen
        July 31, 2016, 8:10 pm

        McKinney must be chuckling about this; she can tell him the real house rules if he gets too frustrated and asks politely. Imagine what the gatekeepers would have already done to Trump by now if he hadn’t made that AIPAC speech his son-in-law wrote up for him along with his two Orthodox Jewish business buddies.

      • echinococcus
        July 31, 2016, 9:34 pm

        Wish it were just those, Gamal. Termites are eating into every place you care to name from Azerbaijan to India to the Arctic.

  11. Shingo
    July 31, 2016, 4:32 pm

    What a bunch of hypocrites! Where was Greenblat’s and Podhoretz’s outrage when Begin referred to Palesribians as beast walking on two legs and insects?

    • jon s
      August 1, 2016, 5:11 pm

      Shingo, As I recall, Begin’s quote did not refer to Palestinians, but to terrorists, specifically those who murder children.
      Palesribians?

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 5:33 pm

        “specifically those who murder children.”

        Zionists use children, their own children, as human shields. They use them as human sacrifices to Zionism.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 5:58 pm

        “but to terrorists, specifically those who “

        Here you go, “Jon s”! An article on “How Lynchings Keep Jews in Israel Safe”

      • Shingo
        August 2, 2016, 12:48 am

        Shingo, As I recall, Begin’s quote did not refer to Palestinians, but to terrorists, specifically those who murder children.

        And Johnson was only referring to settlers, but the Israeli Forster crowd and twisting his statement to insist he is maligning ALL Jews.

      • jon s
        August 2, 2016, 1:25 am

        Shingo,
        I agree. Mr.Begin was referring to child-murdering terrorists, Congressman Johnson was referring to settlers.

      • RoHa
        August 2, 2016, 1:29 am

        Aren’t settlers child-murdering terrorists?

      • echinococcus
        August 2, 2016, 1:31 am

        Whoa. Begin the murderer indicting himself? Not likely.

      • inbound39
        August 2, 2016, 6:36 am

        Settlers cannot be considered humane when they burn people alive and run over children in vehicles.

  12. yonah fredman
    July 31, 2016, 4:54 pm

    If the ADL, et al. had some credibility in opposing the settlement enterprise, which they don’t, then sensitivity regarding the sloppy language of Rep. Johnson might be acceptable. But because they lack that credibility that focusing on the language and totally ignoring the context makes their preoccupation seem like game playing.

    Because the language in this comments section is so sloppy and wild, Rep. Johnson’s language seems run of the mill. It was not. It was very stupid.

    y’know one of the first things out of donald trump’s mouth in his acceptance speech, right after “law and order” was: no more political correctness and of course, we want our language to be as direct as possible. but a little common sense, rep. johnson! What’s wrong with you, fool. you’re a congressman for gosh sake. get your act together and try to talk like a gentleman rather than trash talking commenter on some web site.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      July 31, 2016, 6:54 pm

      With every Jonah Fredman comment it is becoming more and more evident to me that Jonah likes the punishment he will inevitably receive, and must have masochistic tendencies.

      • Mooser
        July 31, 2016, 11:11 pm

        “and must have masochistic tendencies.”

        Uh, “Yakov”? I do have to wonder if you have taken into consideration how difficult it is to punish masochists. And professional masochists, too, not an amateur like “Yonah”.
        Good luck, tho.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        August 1, 2016, 12:42 am

        I refuse to be the one to give Jonah the punishment he desperately wants.

      • yonah fredman
        August 1, 2016, 3:30 am

        Jacob Hirsch- Your misspelling of names and ad hominem attacks means you have found a true home in the comments section of mw.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 11:45 am

        “I refuse to be the one to give Jonah the punishment he desperately wants.”

        Slap your tuchis and shout “Hooray for Tribal Unity!”

        Anyway, do you have the time? You’ve got bigger game to aim at

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 12:09 pm

        “Jacob Hirsch- Your misspelling of names and ad hominem attacks means you have found a true home in the comments section of mw.”

        Where he can always be sure “Yonah Fredman” will be here to welcome him.
        And tell “Yakov” : “This place is a regular immovable Trefa Banquet!”

    • Mooser
      August 1, 2016, 6:44 pm

      “trash talking commenter on some web site.”

      “Yonah” there are many, many websites and discussion groups on the Internet which monitor and limit the language and personal “flaming” between participants much more assiduously than Mondoweiss.
      Many go further, and require real name (you already do that, so you’re way ahead) and some identity verification.
      Have you thought about seeking a discussion group or website which meets your personal standards for discussion? Start here.
      It might be better than hanging around and being a long-winded drip. And I know I’m so tired of disappointing you.

  13. Kay24
    July 31, 2016, 6:28 pm

    This is the usual zionist tactic to shut down any criticism however mild, by using the anti-semitic accusations. They have done it before, and will do it again. Everyone should shut the heck up about zionist crimes, occupation, and land grabs, or it will be anti-semitic – the usual BS.

    Meanwhile the parasites are getting rid of more Arabs from the territories.
    Now this is something to really get outraged about.

    “Authorities start process of replacing Bedouin town with a Jewish one
    Israel moved the residents to the plot of land they lives on today. Decades later, the state wants to displace them again — to build a Jewish town on the ruins of their homes.”

    http://linkis.com/972mag.com/authoriti/zAtCe

    • Jon66
      July 31, 2016, 10:17 pm

      Kay,
      “Meanwhile the parasites are getting rid of more Arabs from the territories”. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/johnsons-innocent-reputation/#comment-170532

      Your comparisons of Jews to parasites are not original. For more details on the comparisons of Jews to parasites you might want to check out this pamphlet. “The Jew as World Parasite”. The original is in German and out of print but you can find it on a number of websites in English translation. Best of luck.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 1, 2016, 12:20 am

        yeah, it’s a pretty harsh comparison. but i watched some of the videos that went online while it was happening.

        i definitely would not compare jews to parasites, but the people carrying out this tragedy, what would you call them? cuz parasitic sorta fits. none of the jews i know would ever do this, or anything like it.

        this is not even the worst of it from today — i saw worse. what kind of person could do this — for what? another jewish only town?

        it’s really sad tho that some people will look at this and think it represents all jews (that’s not something kay said tho). maybe your concern would be better spent stopping these sorts of actions, if you’re concerned about people who don’t know better getting the wrong idea. there is another victim here — other than innocent jews who get tarred by these racist monsters. i hope you realize this.

      • Kay24
        August 1, 2016, 12:38 am

        I referred to the zionists, although the article did mention : Jews.

        At this point my focus is really on the criminals who are extracting lands from helpless people, and slowly but surely getting rid of the Arabs and taking over land and water, which is utterly disgusting.
        I have never read nor seen the pamphlet and it was not intentional that I used the word parasite.

        I agree with the definition though:

        “a person who habitually relies on or exploits others and gives nothing in return.
        synonyms: hanger-on, cadger, leech, passenger; More”

        They keep taking but never giving anything back like ending the occupation.

      • inbound39
        August 1, 2016, 12:53 am

        The problem is Annie that many will equate what Israeli Jews are doing with all Jews and therefore Israeli Jews threaten the future of Diaspora Jews by their actions. We know ALL Jews are not the same,thankfully, as demonstrated clearly on this site…..however, that will not stop the comparison which is why Zionism needs to be stopped.

      • Talkback
        August 1, 2016, 2:51 am

        Jon66: “Your comparisons of Jews to parasites are not original.”

        Your conflation with Jewish settlers and Jews as such isn’t either. Jews as Jews were considered parasites by Nazis as you can see in the title where it says “the Jew”. Antisemitism only works on the invented prototype of “the Jew”.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 11:39 am

        “there is another victim here — other than innocent jews who get tarred by these racist monsters. i hope you realize this.”

        Realize this”? Are you kidding? They realize it, they delight in it. That is the intent.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 12:01 pm

        “Jon66: “Your comparisons of Jews to parasites are not original.”

        This is a great method “Jon 66”! Nobody will ever get past it!

        Since, at one time or another, anti-Semites have compared Jews to anything and everything, any unfavorable analogy concerning Jews must be motivated by antisemitism, and is invalid!

        Since anti-semites have, at one time or another, accused Jews of anything and everything, any and every accusation against a Jew or Jews is ruled invalid because it resembles an anti-semitic accusation!

        That device will work forever, “Jon 66”. Nobody can get past that. Compared to that, the Gordian Knot was a shoelace.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 12:05 pm

        “Israeli Jews threaten the future of Diaspora Jews by their actions.”

        And where should threatened Diaspora Jews go?

      • Kay24
        August 1, 2016, 2:11 pm

        To your point Mooser, looks like Jon has taken the focus from the main topic in my comment, zionists violently taking possession of Bedouin lands, and been able to divert everyone’s attention by so nicely talking about the word “parasite”, and what implications it has for Jews.
        So hasbara like.

      • MHughes976
        August 1, 2016, 3:34 pm

        To your and Mooser’s point, Kay: the ploy keeps on working. Maddening, isn’t it?

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 3:51 pm

        “To your and Mooser’s point, Kay: the ploy keeps on working. Maddening, isn’t it?”

        Has anybody found a way past it?

      • Jon66
        August 1, 2016, 8:31 pm

        Kay,
        You use inflammatory rhetoric, a historically offensive comparison, and name calling and then try to make a point. Is it so surprising that your point may be lost in the vitriol? Perhaps next time, if you let your facts speak for themselves, it might be less distracting.

      • Kay24
        August 1, 2016, 10:23 pm

        Ah, Jon giving sage advice….no problem Jon, I know I can always count on you to distract everyone here from the crimes committed by the zionists, and hijack the conversation. I know that you get so “offended” when the zionists are criticized and it is predictable you will appear and pick on phrases used and start debating on it., or some irrelevant issue. It is obvious you are more inflamed by my so called “historically offensive name calling” more than the crimes committed by those zionists, and I do not have to point out to anything the videos and articles speak to the truth. I hope we are not expected to walk on egg shells at this point, because we are offending those supporting those accused of violent crimes and breaking international laws.

        If you read my initial comment I made no reference to ALL Jews, and referred to zionists:

        “This is the usual zionist tactic to shut down any criticism however mild, by using the anti-semitic accusations. They have done it before, and will do it again. Everyone should shut the heck up about zionist crimes, occupation, and land grabs, or it will be anti-semitic – the usual BS.

        Meanwhile the parasites are getting rid of more Arabs from the territories.
        Now this is something to really get outraged about.”

        If someone had used the word “parasite” associated with Jews, I had nothing to do with it.
        I have however referred to Israel as a parasitic state.

        Good effort in deflection.

      • Jon66
        August 1, 2016, 10:57 pm

        Kay,
        “I hope we are not expected to walk on egg shells at this point, because we are offending those supporting those accused of violent crimes and breaking international laws. “- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/johnsons-innocent-reputation/#comment-170532

        I welcome a free and open exchange or ideas and criticism. I would not never ask you to pull punches and you are certainly free to offend anyone you wish.

    • Talkback
      August 1, 2016, 2:53 am

      Kay24: “I referred to the zionists, although the article did mention : Jews.”

      Comparing humans to insects is literally inhumane. You should distance yourself from those who do the same to legitimize the settlements, because they think that Palestinians have no human rights.

      • MHughes976
        August 1, 2016, 12:41 pm

        We should distinguish between harsh words about those who are English and harsh words about certain people who, as it happens, are English. The first may well indicate Anglophobia, a form of prejudice, the second should not be treated as Anglophobic unless we have reason to think that the English people concerned are in fact doing nothing wrong. If the mere harshness of words is enough to indicate prejudice and misjudgement by those who use them then we would have to say that people who are English can do no wrong sufficient to merit harsh words – are in effect guaranteed to be innocent and just. This would, if applied to the English or any other group of people, make nonsense of all morality.
        Once again significantly bad activity has been denounced harshly and once again it is the harshness of the words rather than the badness and cruelty of the actions that attracts apologies. That in itself is rather bad, another triumph for the rhetoric that we sometimes tell ourselves is losing its sting, another effective protection of bad deeds by mistaken words.

      • RoHa
        August 1, 2016, 9:24 pm

        “We should distinguish between harsh words about those who are English…”

        Of course, no-one would actually have any harsh words to say about the English.

      • RoHa
        August 1, 2016, 9:45 pm

        I find this obsession with impolite words to be both slightly amusing and very distressing.

        I cannot easily believe that grown-ups are really so offended by such terms. Perhaps this is because I grew up at a time when Australian demotic speech was very demotic indeed. (I recall, later in England, hearing an excerpt from a discussion in Federal Parliament, and then the BBC announcer: “And there you have an example of the .. er .. robust Australian political style.)

        But there is more to the issue than someone taking umbrage because I called him a flamin’ galah.

        (When Howard Carter digs up the archives, you will see that I have said this before, but I’m going to say it again anyway.)

        This insistence on declaring statements to be anti-Semitic, etc., is not just silly and tedious, it is also pernicious. When the most important aspect of a statement is deemed to be its conformity or nonconformity with an ideology, then concern for truth is, at best, secondary, if not abandoned entirely. But if truth ceases to be our priority, we have said goodbye to reason. We give up the best method we have for ordering our affairs. We give up morality. There cannot be moral order where there is intellectual disorder. (You do not have to be a Confucian or Stoic to know this.)

        That is why I do not particularly care whether a statement is classed as anti-Semitic, or racist, or sexist, or (horrors!) unfashionable. First and foremost I care whether or not it is true.

  14. Dan
    July 31, 2016, 10:27 pm

    “Its always the same story. Normal people make a statement with no intended malice. If they were on the “right” (correct) side of the Israeli/Palestinian divide and used the same word or phrase it would pass by unnoticed…”

    I agree – also with the basic point of the article re the Congressman’s comments.
    The key should be intent.
    It’s a shame that MW didn’t apply the same standard to Bill Clinton’s comment at the convention. He said something well intentioned about Muslims, but inartfully and awkwardly.
    Ordinarily people would just let it go at that, but some overly sanctimonious people, who view Clinton as being on the wrong side of the issue, turned it into something it wasn’t.

  15. JoeSmack
    August 1, 2016, 3:13 am

    I wonder if Ali Abunimah will gather 17 Palestinians to disavow Hank on behalf of the entire Movement.

  16. Raphael
    August 1, 2016, 6:27 am

    I’m wondering, why, the Israelis even go through the motions of peace talks? I read about the history of the original Zionist government wanting a bi-national state. But what good would it do to-day? In a world of anti-Semitism; that I’m guessing is a result of the Jewish people, Hebrews, or Israelites moving to other lands. and demanding a nation within a nation rights only generally made matters worse to the point of world conflicts as a result of anti-Semitism in the modern nation states they lived in.

    If anything the governments of the world should encourage that the Jews have Judea and Samaria, and then let the Arab citizens have rights, however, the Israelis define it… to let them live in the same areas of Israel, as the Jews.

    The Arabs could say the same thing; that the Hebrews would say in the nations that they were living in that all they want is a nation within a nation rights, to limited autonomy in cities or towns or communities that their homes are in, that the Arabs would live in.

    And, not expect to have things like mosques in a Jewish country. The Jews should be allowed to develop their own culture, architecture and art in Israel. With no violence in the area the tourism industry would increase, then more jobs, and wages for both the Arabs and the Jews.

    As a Catholic Jew… when I became a citizen of Israel I was prohibited from even stating I was a Catholic; probably because of the Evangelicals, that would stand on the corners and try and convert Hasidic Jews.

    I would have no problem as a Catholic Jew; if I simply had limited rights within a community; to be a Catholic Jew; without even having a physical church building, so as to not offend the ultra Orthodox.

    It should not be that much different then the Arab population, their mosques should be torn down, and replaced with even a Third Temple if that is what the Israelis want. God gave everyone a free will; if they want a rebuilt Temple, so be it, let it be written. Why not make all of Jerusalem the Third Temple?

    • RoHa
      August 1, 2016, 9:58 am

      Interesting ideas, Raphael. But why should the Jews have Judea and Samaria, and then give limited residence rights to the Palestinian Arabs, rather than the Palestinians having all Palestine and giving limited residence rights to Jews?

      And, of course, tear down the synagogues. Can’t expect to have such things in a non-Jewish country.

      • Dan
        August 6, 2016, 9:38 pm

        “There are quite a few of us for whom the first glimpses of the beginnings of the initial approaches to the start of the foothills to very early middle age is no longer a distant prospect”

        Including me.

        It was a reference to ideology and mindset, not age – also he calls himself an “old commie” so I was playing on that.

        He seems like a throwback to me – maybe why he gets into so many spats with human rights oriented, non-doctrinaire, humane progressive types here. Anyway that’s my impression.

    • inbound39
      August 1, 2016, 10:07 am

      The problem you have there is under the UN Human Rights act no person or persons are allowed to impose their religion on another hence Religion plays no part in International Law. Israel keeps the conflict going by attempting to float the Zionist view of Judaism and concocted Jewish History of the area.

      • Raphael
        August 1, 2016, 3:20 pm

        My guess is that most Israelis laugh at the UN. When I was living there; I had no rights as a Christian Jew. The politicians say otherwise, that it is all a democracy with the three major religions, all living in one big harmony. But in reality it a theocracy with indivisible walls, separating not just the Jews, and Arabs, but there are invincible walls separating the Russian (Soviet) Jews and the Ashkenazi Jews, etc.

        And it is getting worse… my guess is 90% of Jewish Israelis agree with ultra Orthodox. The left is marginalized for a reason. Israel is basically like a shtetl community from the old country in Ukraine in the seventieth or eighteenth century; where they are under strict rabbinic law.

        Also, no change has occurred from 1948. The 1967 Six-Day War guaranteed American Jewish support; even American Jews are going to the traditional way of the ultra orthodox, both secular and religious American Jews generally,

        So, it is the best deal possible.

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 5:48 pm

        “even American Jews are going to the traditional way of the ultra orthodox, both secular and religious American Jews generally”

        The truth, however, is that 82 percent of American Jews belong to no Jewish organizations at all

      • Mooser
        August 1, 2016, 6:16 pm

        “So, it is the best deal possible.”

        Sure, and maybe we should start calling you Tex Antoine , too.

      • jon s
        August 2, 2016, 1:30 am

        What’s a Christian Jew? I thought you could be either a Christian or a Jew.

      • echinococcus
        August 2, 2016, 1:54 am

        Hard to keep up with the absurdities of John S, the “history teacher”.
        Now he’s asking: “What’s a Christian Jew? I thought you could be either a Christian or a Jew.”

        The guy never heard about Jesus and his disciples, but also Paul, and the first period of historic Christianism as part of Judaism.

      • Raphael
        August 2, 2016, 2:06 am

        I thought you could be either a Christian or a Jew.

        A Christian Jew is not of the Jewish religion…but is a Israelite.

        See, Jewish Identity Within the Church : Association of Hebrew Catholics

        http://www.hebrewcatholic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/JI-85×11.pdf

      • talknic
        August 2, 2016, 8:02 am

        @ jon s

        “What’s a Christian Jew?”

        A person born of a Jewish mother but following the Christian religion.

        There are Arab Jews, Buddhist Jews, Muslim Jews, atheist Jews etc etc … oh yeah, and Jewish Jews. More Arab Jews than Israel cares to acknowledge http://wp.me/pDB7k-19Y

      • jon s
        August 2, 2016, 10:36 am

        A Christian, by definition, believes in Jesus as the saviour. Jews don’t.
        If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity, that person is a convert.

        Talknic, likewise, you can’t be a Muslim Jew.. Muslims believe in the Prophet Muhammad and his teachings, Jews don’t. A person can be one or the other.

      • yonah fredman
        August 2, 2016, 11:13 am

        Jon S- regarding the Christian Jew. It depends on who is writing the definition. Hitler killed Jews who had converted to Christianity (for the sin of their Jewish “race”), so obviously he did not accept that one could not be both.
        Jews for Jesus obviously believe that one can be both.
        In theory belief that Jesus is/was the Messiah is no more contradictory to Judaism than the belief that the Lubavitcher Rebbe is/was the Messiah. (Which is not a compliment to Lubavitch, but you get my point.)
        I would say that the combined Jew-Christian identity is complicated by two factors: Are Christians monotheists? They seem to fudge the God is one and god is son and father (and holy spirit) question so that the unity of god factor seems to be too elastic for strictly monotheist Jews. The other factor is that the content of the New Testament sets up an opposition between Jews and Christians that is tough to swallow. (opposition is a euphemism). If the New Testament is holy to Christians, it is difficult to see how one can be a Christian and a Jew simultaneously.

        if Judaism becomes Jewishness- Jewish humor, bagels and lox and what have you, then why not be Christian and Jewish at the same time? No contradiction between Jesus and Don Rickles or between Paul’s letters and bagels and lox.

      • oldgeezer
        August 2, 2016, 11:15 am

        @jon s

        I tend to agree with you that the term(s) of Christian Jew or Muslim Jew don’t seem to be appropriate. I infer from your comment that you are taking the position that to be Jewish one must be of the Jewish religion?

        What is your position on the term “secular Jew”?

        As I don’t know all the intricate details of Israeli red tape what would be shown on the identity card of someone born into the Jewish faith who converts to some other religion?

      • talknic
        August 2, 2016, 11:16 am

        @ Jon s

        “A Christian, by definition, believes in Jesus as the saviour. Jews don’t”

        A Christian Jew does

        “If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity, that person is a convert”

        Conversion doesn’t change that person’s blood, DNA, skin colour or any of the other attributes inherited from their mother

        You’re spouting nonsense

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 11:21 am

        “A Christian, by definition…” “Jon s”

        You people better listen up! 200 million Jews can tell 15 million Christians and 2 million Muslems what their religion consists of.

        You Christians and Muslims are simply so outnumbered, you have no choice! Us Jews, (namely “Jon s”) will tell you what your religion is!

        Besides, and I didn’t want to bring this up, but you force me to- does your no-account religion have its own nuclear arsenal? Huh? Than shut up, C&Ms!

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 11:27 am

        “If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity…”

        We just laugh at him and say “Tough testicles, baby, we marked you for our own. You’ll need an operation as well as a baptism. And there ain’t one. Jokes on you sucker, you trusted us.”

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 11:33 am

        “Yakov”, you got any Torah for “Jon s”?

      • eljay
        August 2, 2016, 12:35 pm

        || jon s: If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity, that person is a convert.

        … likewise, you can’t be a Muslim Jew.. … A person can be one or the other. ||

        I was wondering who would be the first to suggest that Raphael is “not a real Jew”. Looks like jon s has won that prize. Congratulations.

        Well, so much for Jewish being a nationality just like French or German or American.

        But thanks for confirming that “Jewish State” is a religion-supremacist construct.

      • Marnie
        August 2, 2016, 12:56 pm

        “A Christian, by definition, believes in Jesus as the saviour. Jews don’t. If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity, that person is a convert. Talknic, likewise, you can’t be a Muslim Jew.. Muslims believe in the Prophet Muhammad and his teachings, Jews don’t. A person can be one or the other. ”

        Who cares?

        Eljay was wondering who’d be first to question Raphael’s ‘Jewness” and it looks like JeffB’s surrogate took the bait. What a predictable tool.

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 1:13 pm

        “Marnie”, I for some reason, all of a sudden wondered “What ever happened to “Failed Messiah”, the blog keeping tabs on the Orthodox community. I knew the guy sold it, but nothing further.

        So I ran into this article

        I recommend to you the article and the comments of one “Longley Blough”. (BTW she mentions the Torah is against not letting people sleep, as well as embarrassing them) Tribal Unity, baby!

      • Mr.T
        August 2, 2016, 6:33 pm

        “If a person was born Jewish, but now believes in the ideas of Christianity, that person is a convert.”

        This is dopey; complete gibberish.
        Look, if you are defining “Jewish” by what one believes (i.e., as a religion) then no one is “born Jewish” because newborns and infants are incapable of such beliefs. If you mean Jewish ethnicity, that one does not suddenly obtain a new ancestry by trading one religion for another.

      • Dan
        August 2, 2016, 11:08 pm

        “The guy never heard about Jesus and his disciples”

        Unless Raphael is the 2,000 year old man, it’s probably safe to assume that Jon S is referring to current times.

      • echinococcus
        August 3, 2016, 12:36 am

        But, Dan, both John S and Raphael are 2,000+-year-old people: they say they came to Palestine to claim their personal property.
        John S indignantly rejects every suggestion that he is squatting on stolen foreign land and Raphael used his 1/2-birthright. I’ve once claimed an inherited share in a garden and a shack in a civilized country, so I know that the only possibly acceptable explanation is that they, or their father or some first-degree relatives, were born in Palestine some 2,000 years ago.

      • Dan
        August 4, 2016, 10:08 pm

        “But, Dan, both John S and Raphael are 2,000…”

        I’ve only read a few sentences of Raphael’s contributions – can’t speak to that.
        Jon has written that his father and grandfather were born in Israel (or pre-1948 Palestine) and are buried there, but I don’t recall any mention about personal property. I guess people emigrate/immigrate for various reasons.

        Based on some of your references (“lumpenproletary”, “means of production”, “The Bund”) I suspect the real reason for your assertion that they are 2,000 years old is this – you don’t want to be the only relic from a bygone age who comments here.

      • Mooser
        August 5, 2016, 10:00 am

        “you don’t want to be the only relic from a bygone age who comments here.”

        “Echinococcus” is not the only one. Yes, I may be “a relic from a by-gone age” but I still love the Band.

      • RoHa
        August 5, 2016, 11:09 am

        How old do you have to be to qualify as a relic of a bygone age? There are quite a few of us for whom the first glimpses of the beginnings of the initial approaches to the start of the foothills to very early middle age is no longer a distant prospect.

      • echinococcus
        August 5, 2016, 11:59 am

        Daniel cracks me up. Considering that the non-bygone era is that of triumphant Zionist theft and genocide, the bygone era is vastly preferable, and its principles, still all on the books, should at good last be implemented.

        As for John S’ origins, he definitely wrote enough to define himself entirely American. Even if he personally had any pre-1897 Palestinian ancestry, which I wouldn’t know, he claimed a right to theft for millions of unrelated invaders.

      • Mooser
        August 5, 2016, 12:43 pm

        “Even if he personally had any pre-1897 Palestinian ancestry, which I wouldn’t know,”

        Archive says:

        “And, hey, I was born in West Hartford!” “Jon s”

        “1.All you have to do is click on my profile . I am indeed an Israeli citizen (also a US citizen).” “Jon s” http://mondoweiss.net/profile/jon-s/?keyword=citizen#sthash.kBj35vYv.dpuf

        Yeah, “also”.

        “Jon s” has his best bower set in American soil. When the time comes, he’ll leave the poor Israelis to fight it out, while he weighs anchor for the Goldenah Medina.
        Why should “Jon s”ever compromise? He’s got a ready-made “out” any time he can’t get his ‘kicks’ in Israel.

    • Mooser
      August 1, 2016, 12:20 pm

      “Why not make all of Jerusalem the Third Temple?And, not expect to have things like mosques in a Jewish country. The Jews should be allowed to develop their own culture, architecture and art in Israel.”

      Why are you trying (and very ineffectually, I might add) to convince us you are anything but another right-wing national religious Zionist?

      And nobody gives a husky f–k if you are a by-blow from the House of David, mostly, you’re just blow-by.

      • Marnie
        August 2, 2016, 1:02 pm

        “And nobody gives a husky f–k if you are a by-blow from the House of David, mostly, you’re just blow-by.”

        That is priceless.

    • Theo
      August 1, 2016, 1:55 pm

      From the very first days, even before the 1947 NAKBA, the zionist never wanted a two state solution! All one has to do is to read the letters of Ben Gurion and other zionist leaders, they always wanted to have a jewish state all over Palestina and to drive the palestinians out.
      A visit to the Haganah museum in Jerusalem can be very enlightening, they had orders to clear certain areas, outside the planned jewish state, of all arabs.

    • talknic
      August 2, 2016, 2:15 am

      @ Raphael August 1, 2016, 6:27 am

      “In a world of anti-Semitism”

      Save the over exaggerated twaddlespiel. We’re only a tiny % of the world’s population. In my 70 years I’ve never been subjected to any form of Antisemitism except from Jews who hate other Jews, religious and non-religious, for not being as blindly supportive of Israel’s illegal colonizing tactics as they are

      “that I’m guessing is a result of the Jewish people, Hebrews, or Israelites moving to other lands. and demanding a nation within a nation rights only generally made matters worse to the point of world conflicts as a result of anti-Semitism in the modern nation states they lived in”

      We had 2,000 years in which to return to Palestine, take up citizenship, buy land and settle anywhere in the Jewish People’s homeland. Few bothered.

      In fact the entire Zionist Congress between 1897 and 1922 could have returned to Palestine, taken up citizenship, bought land and settled anywhere in the Jewish People’s homeland. Even Herzl didn’t bother in his lifetime. Nor did his family. After 1922 under the LoN Mandate for Palestine Article 7, they could still have returned to the Nation State of Palestine, taken up citizenship, bought land and settled as Palestinian Jews http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp#art7

      Furthermore when we look at the list of signatories on the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, we see only one from Palestine and the remainder do not represent anywhere near a majority of Jews from the world’s other states http://wp.me/pDB7k-1cE
      Which makes your statement “as a result of anti-Semitism in the modern nation states they lived in” rather pathetic

      “If anything the governments of the world should encourage that the Jews have Judea and Samaria, and then let the Arab citizens have rights, however, the Israelis define it … to let them live in the same areas of Israel, as the Jews.”

      Problem, the West Bank as it is now officially named, is not in Israel.

      “The Arabs … not expect to have things like mosques in a Jewish country”

      The Israeli Declaration of Statehood guaranteed freedom of religion. Seems it was just another Zionist lie

      <"The Jews should be allowed to develop their own culture, architecture and art in Israel"

      Great. Tell ’em to go live IN Israel instead of illegally colonizing non-Israeli territories

      “As a Catholic Jew… when I became a citizen of Israel I was prohibited from even stating I was a Catholic…”

      What happened to the promised freedom of religion?

      ” … the Arab population, their mosques should be torn down, and replaced with even a Third Temple if that is what the Israelis want. God gave everyone a free will; if they want a rebuilt Temple, so be it, let it be written. Why not make all of Jerusalem the Third Temple?”

      Jerusalem isn’t Israeli.

      “Why not make all of Jerusalem the Third Temple?”

      Why not read a few UNSC resolutions … http://wp.me/pDB7k-W8

      • RoHa
        August 2, 2016, 2:21 am

        Talknic, I’m pretty sure Raphael is a loony. Don’t put too much effort into responding to his comments.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 2, 2016, 5:22 am

        In my 70 years I’ve never been subjected to any form of Antisemitism except from Jews who hate other Jews

        wow talknic, i assumed you were a couple decades younger than me. hats off to you.

      • talknic
        August 2, 2016, 8:06 am

        @ Annie Robbins

        ” i assumed you were a couple decades younger than me”

        A long time ago :-) Now on my ‘last legs’ whatever that means. I’d wish for a new pair but there’s no-where to put ’em

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 11:14 am

        “I thank you for your comments.”

        Shorter “Rafael”: ‘Help, I’m in a battle of wills over Zionism. If I don’t do what they expect, I may not inherit the money!’

        Heyt “Raphael” ever think about growing up and becoming an adult, maybe even a man?

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 11:49 am

        “And, I look Jewish; so even if I did try and hide my Jewishness (Jewish personality) it would never work, because, I knew it would in some ways surface in my lifetime.”

        You poor schlemeil. Never know when that “Jewish personality” is gonna jump out and bite you on the ass, uh?
        Maybe you’re just a jerk, and it’s a convenient excuse to blame it on your “Jewish personality”?

        And Holy Mole’ “Rafael”, you are totally convinced, and explain to us over and over, that being Jewish relieves you of any personal ethical or moral responsibility. You seem to have no agency of your own. Is that a “Jewish personality” thing?

      • talknic
        August 2, 2016, 12:37 pm

        @ Raphael

        ” … I look Jewish … “

        Oh please do tell us more … Do you look like these Jews?

        Do you share the skin colour of this Jew?

        Or the eye shape of these Jews

        Or Kaifeng’s Jews

      • RoHa
        August 2, 2016, 8:05 pm

        Talknic, you wouldn’t be able to fit them on, anyway. People of our age and nationality were built on Imperial measure, with British Standard thread (BSF, usually) for the bolts. But nowadays all the spares are metric.

      • talknic
        August 3, 2016, 2:15 am

        @ RoHa

        ” … But nowadays all the spares are metric”

        Oh well, I’ll have to simply ‘go’ with the ones I came with

      • Raphael
        August 3, 2016, 8:55 am

        Or Kaifeing’s Jews

        Looking Jewish: Visual Culture & Modern Diaspora
        Carol Zemel

        Jewish art and visual culture–art made by Jews about Jews–in modern diasporic settings is the subject of Looking Jewish.

        https://www.questia.com/library/120086815/looking-jewish-visual-culture-and-modern-diaspora

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 11:39 am

        “RoHa” there are three “Whitworth threads”. That’s Sir Joseph Whitworth to me.

      • RoHa
        August 3, 2016, 9:29 pm

        Aside from BSW, BSF, and BSC, there is BSP. That is pretty much a Whitworth.

        And then there are the British Association threads, the US threads, and the metric threads.

        When I was young I did most of my own repairs to my motor scooters, under the eye of my engineer father. I know how to draw out a broken bolt with an easy-out, how to re-tap a bolt-hole and put a thread on a bar to turn it into a bolt.

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 11:01 pm

        “When I was young I did most of my own repairs to my motor scooters”

        I had no parental guidance in that area, as far as they were concerned, my Honda was a shondah. Later I had a BSA, and I had many bad experiences before I figured all that thread stuff out.

      • talknic
        August 4, 2016, 5:21 am

        @ RoHa

        ” … I know how to draw out a broken bolt with an easy-out …”

        Ditto … Alas there’s no easy-out for this one

      • oldgeezer
        August 4, 2016, 9:05 am

        @Mooser

        My second bike was a bsa 441 victor special.

      • Mooser
        August 4, 2016, 6:26 pm

        “My second bike was a bsa 441 victor special.”

        My second bike was a BSA 441 single in road trim.
        Called the “Shooting Star”

        I rode that one from SLC out to SF area (with a friend on a Ducati single) …
        Oh God, I remember now, I rode that bike up the stairs to my GF’s front door in SF. Such a shaigetz ainer I was in those days! ( I think I saw it in some movie or something. Anyway, it turned out my girlfriend had left me for another woman, who threw me, and my bike, back down the stairs.) …up to Seattle, and back to SLC, across the Nev. desert.

        That was the smallest bike (well, my Honda 350 before that) I ever owned, yet I took the longest bike trip of my life on it.

      • Mooser
        August 4, 2016, 6:44 pm

        “When I was young I did most of my own repairs to my motor scooters, under the eye of my engineer father.”

        Whenever I tore into an engine, and came to my father for advice, he would say “Grow up to be a mechanic? Feh! Go play doctor, instead!”

    • Mr.T
      August 2, 2016, 6:27 pm

      “their mosques should be torn down, and replaced with even a Third Temple if that is what the Israelis want.”

      Disgusting barbarism of an idea.

  17. Vera Gottlieb
    August 1, 2016, 10:00 am

    And Moses would be smeared too if he had dared to bring to light an inconvenient truth. Yes, termites…a good description.

  18. Doubtom
    August 1, 2016, 10:32 am

    I’m positive that some people feel that “termite” is a most apt description for what Israelis are doing to Palestinian land. Israel is in fact ‘eating away’ at Palestinian land from the inside, in exactly the same manner as do termites, to the eventual erosion of the entire structure. Yes, a most apt description of what Israel is doing, illegally, and on an ongoing basis.

  19. David Gerald Fincham
    August 1, 2016, 11:21 am

    “To state the obvious, the word “termites” was used as a description of the settlements encroaching on Palestinian territory and is clearly not referring to human beings.”

    Johnson’s quote said that the “settlement activity” is “moving along”. The settlement activity is carried out by human beings, Israeli government officials and the settlers themselves. It is an entirely appropriate metaphor to liken these people to termites.

    Of course, it is also offensive. But there is no human right not to be offended. Johnson has apologized, that should be the end of it.

    The accusation of anti-semitism is the usual nonsense cry we get from the Zionist side.

    • echinococcus
      August 1, 2016, 2:06 pm

      Fincham,

      If I were in Johnson’s extremely expensive shoes, after several AIPAC and other “Jewish” millions spent to make me a House …Rep, even I would apologize.

  20. Ossinev
    August 1, 2016, 2:06 pm

    @Raphael
    “As a Catholic Jew…”

    I`ve heard of Orthodox Jews,Ultra Orthodox Jews,Hasidic Jews etc.

    WTF is a Catholic Jew ? Are there Mormon Jews,Baptist Jews,Church of England Jews, Seventh Day Adventist Jews,Satanist Jews,Pagan Jews and wait for it Muslim Jews ?

    Oh and yes are they all eligible for Israeli citizenship.

  21. (((James North)))
    August 1, 2016, 2:40 pm

    Yakov: This is a great post. I especially appreciate your discussion of Torah at the end.

    • Annie Robbins
      August 1, 2016, 3:37 pm

      me too james, i have never heard anything about that (“allow himself to be tossed into a furnace than to willingly embarrass another person”) before.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        August 1, 2016, 5:16 pm

        Would not have guessed such a big demand at MW for Talmud excerpts.
        But Annie don’t hold your breath. Rabbi Wolpe ,Jeffrey Goldberg, Rabbi Shmuely, etal not searching for furnaces to be tossed into.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      August 1, 2016, 6:15 pm

      James,
      My friend who is trying to explain to me what “trolling” is,
      pointed to your comment saying,

      “I especially appreciate your discussion of Torah at the end.”

      and said “that’s trolling!” Is he right?

      • Yakov Hirsch
        August 1, 2016, 7:12 pm

        James, not being serious about trolling. I don’t believe in the Torah but I assumed Rabbi Wolpe does, thus the Torah.
        But you Anne and other non-Jewish overcome with your love of the holy Torah can start a petition to get Phil, Scott, and Adam to give me a “Torah portion of the Week.” column. :)
        Until then I will continue my war planning against the most contemptible Jew i have ever come across, Jeffrey Goldberg. Here he is today with more of his toxic and evil work. he “liked” this tweet https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/759746535101861888

        Look what Israel has to deal with. “The Palestian’s trying to get their kids killed just to make Jews look bad.”

      • (((James North)))
        August 1, 2016, 9:40 pm

        The Torah portion you quoted was beautiful. Please keep Torah coming.

      • jon s
        August 2, 2016, 1:37 am

        It would be great to see a Torah Portion of the Week column. Seriously.
        The Torah, the Talmud and all the commentaries discuss a huge range of topics, from matters of life and death to the smallest details of everyday life, to the size of Samson’s member.

      • yonah fredman
        August 2, 2016, 2:57 am

        James North- Although Torah can be used as an all encompassing phrase referring to any study of Jewish texts, “Torah portion of the week” (in common usage) refers to one of 54 portions of the Torah. The Torah as a narrow term refers to the Pentateuch as in the Five books of Moses, Genesis through Deuteronomy, and it is divided into 54 portions, so as to be read, one a week in the course of a year. (True, one would think that 52 portions would be the number. But the Jewish year is a lunar year, which is 354 days instead of 365, thus necessitating an added leap month approximately once every 3 years, so on those years, extra portions are necessary, and thus the 54 portions instead of 52.)

        Thus Hirsch’s quotation from the Talmud is indeed a part of the Torah and thus to the uninitiated a “portion” of Torah study, but when he refers to the “portion of the week”, he is referring to one of the 54 weekly Pentateuch portions. (This week the end of Numbers is read, and next week the beginning of Deuteronomy will be read in the weekly portions. In October at the end of the Jewish holidays, the cycle of the Torah is completed, Deuteronomy’s last verse is read and the cycle is begun again with Genesis’s: in the beginning God created…)

      • Mooser
        August 2, 2016, 12:02 pm

        ” to the smallest details of everyday life, to the size of Samson’s member.”

        “Jon s” was Samson brit priah?

        And by the way, what does the Torah say about Zionism?

      • Marnie
        August 2, 2016, 1:11 pm

        “It would be great to see a Torah Portion of the Week column. Seriously.”

        Seriously? Especially the chapter and verse regarding Samson’s anaconda. You can’t just throw around a salacious tidbit like that without the chapter and verse, otherwise you’ll look like, well, yourself.

      • jon s
        August 3, 2016, 2:12 am

        Marnie , here’s the tidbit:
        In Judges 13:24, concerning the birth of Samson , it says: “And the woman bore a son and called his name Samson; and the lad grew, and the Lord blessed him.”

        In the Babylonian Talmud (Sotah 10/a) the question asked is what does that mean ?How was Samson “blessed”?

        “יגדל הנער ויברכהו ה’ במה ברכו אמר רב יהודה אמר רב שברכו באמתו אמתו כבני אדם וזרעו כנחל שוטף ”

        The English translation that I found on the web fudges the matter and uses a euphemism : “Wherewith did He bless him? — Rab Judah said in the name of Rab: With his physique which was like that of other men but his manly strength was like a fast-flowing stream.”
        The original can be understood to mean that as a newborn or a child , he already had “the physique” of an adult man, and his seed as a fast-flowing river.

      • eljay
        August 3, 2016, 8:05 am

        || jon s: … In Judges 13:24, concerning the birth of Samson , it says: “And the woman bore a son and called his name Samson; and the lad grew, and the Lord blessed him.” … ||

        Samson is born, he grows up and the Lord blesses him. Sounds nice.

        || … The original can be understood to mean that as a newborn or a child , he already had “the physique” of an adult man, and his seed as a fast-flowing river. ||

        Oh, I see: Samson is born and blessed by the Lord with a large penis and “seed as a fast-flowing river”. IOW, gawd made Samson a porn star. Huh. Well, I guess this explains your interest in his member.

      • MHughes976
        August 3, 2016, 2:11 pm

        It’s quite appropriate for Samson to be regarded as sexually powerful from a miraculously early point, accentuating the contrast with his last days, when he has been castrated – it’s not really his hair that Delilah cuts. The story is in part a reflection on that anxiety that even the most real men feel about suddenly becoming disastrously less real. Also a hint that in a world of real men and beautiful women strict racial purity is impossible.

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 2:14 pm

        “seed as a fast-flowing river”

        And, uh, that’s supposed to be good?
        Uh, Sam, things are a little different when there’s another person involved… or, oh my G-d!
        Or is that what it’s supposed to do?

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 6:01 pm

        “Or is that what it’s supposed…”

        I just remembered, there’s a big bottle of Tanquery gin upstairs, I need a drink. Several.

      • RoHa
        August 3, 2016, 10:10 pm

        “it’s not really his hair that Delilah cuts”

        Is this supposed to make me less nervous about going to the barber?

      • Marnie
        August 4, 2016, 1:00 pm

        “— Rab Judah said in the name of Rab: With his physique which was like that of other men but his manly strength was like a fast-flowing stream.”

        His ‘manly strength’? Sounds like a commercial for Irish Spring soap – and Rab Judah said in the name of Rub a Dub Rab – Aye, and I like it too!

      • Marnie
        August 4, 2016, 1:25 pm

        Gee, not to take anything away from your fabulous ‘rab’ rap about Samson’s schnitzel with its fast-flowing stream and all, but Delilah never mentioned it. And would’nt she know better?

        Please don’t you respond jons – thanking you in advance.

      • Mooser
        August 4, 2016, 8:04 pm

        ” Samson’s schnitzel with its fast-flowing stream and all, but Delilah never mentioned it.”

        A discreet and compassionate woman. No need for public embarrassment.

        But no doubt “Jon s” has an not-full-term expostulation ready for us.

  22. Sulphurdunn
    August 1, 2016, 5:40 pm

    Johnson ought to sue the bastards for libel. Did anyone ever bring a libel or slander suit in this country for being accused of antisemitism?

  23. bognajpierw
    August 1, 2016, 7:04 pm

    Yes, it was indeed the settlements, not any persons, whom Rep. Johnson referred to as termites. But when will ADL complain about Zionists’ common reference to Palestinians as COCKROACHES?

    • bryan
      August 2, 2016, 8:27 am

      You are right about the frequent and far more objectionable references to cockroaches, which seem to have a much bigger PR problem than termites, (even though they are very closely related, as members of the order Blattodea). Termites are ancient creatures, but advanced and highly organised, for which they are often eulogised. For instance Wikipedia makes an interesting analogy:

      Termites are among the most successful groups of insects on Earth, colonising most landmasses except for Antarctica. Their colonies range in size from a few hundred individuals to enormous societies with several million individuals

      As well as being a colonising species, they are highly militaristic, with specialisation between groups operating as soldiers and workers, and some termite species have developed a capability to use skunkwater:

      Different sorts of soldiers include minor and major soldiers, and nasutes, which have a horn-like nozzle frontal projection (a nasus). These unique soldiers are able to spray noxious, sticky secretions containing diterpenes at their enemies.

    • Kay24
      August 2, 2016, 5:29 pm

      The word cockroach becomes mild when leaders like Netanyahu calls Arabs “wild Beasts” and their extremist Minister Shaked called Palestinian children “little Snakes”, they also had some nutty Rabbi who called for Palestinian water to be poisoned, and calls for the Palestinians to be bombed into the stone age and for the Palestinians to be placed in concentration camps in Gaza.

      It seems the insults are okay when it comes from the apartheid nation. They can dish out, but are so think skinned they cannot take it.

      • Yakov Hirsch
        August 3, 2016, 12:02 am

        So, what else is new? Are you just figuring this out, “Yakov”? You seem so shocked by it.
        Mooser, im beginning to put all the pieces together. But Im trying to figure out when exactly did the inmates take over the asylum?

      • mcohen.
        August 3, 2016, 12:03 am

        kay24

        what do palestinians say about jews.surely there are 2 sides to every…………all the arabs i have met have only had good things to say about jews.people of the book is how they refer to jews.alakim al besakallah…..as they like to say
        my cousin from iraq told that the iraqi arabs treated him well and regulary invited him and his family over for special occasions
        do not judge a horse by it,s mane

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 12:08 pm

        ” im beginning to put all the pieces together.”

        Oh. I’ll never have the privilege of doing that. I was repelled and rejecting of Zionism as soon as I heard about it, which would have been years preceding my Bar Mitzvah. early 60’s. And it only got worse from there on in, after the six day war I pretty much despised the place.

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 6:42 pm

        “But Im trying to figure out when exactly did the inmates take over the asylum?”

        As I remember it, after the “Six Day War” there was no looking back. That’ll do as a marker for me.

      • Mooser
        August 3, 2016, 6:47 pm

        “The word cockroach becomes mild when leaders like Netanyahu calls Arabs “wild Beasts” and their extremist Minister Shaked called Palestinian children “little Snakes”, they also had some nutty Rabbi…”

        And knowing all that, they came here to piss and moan about ‘like termites’?
        Are they trying to taunt us with the depth of their hypocrisy, or are they that detached from politics in the real Israel?
        Or does their faith in the efficacy of their own assumed victimhood sustain them through any embarrassment? Who the hell knows.

  24. Elizabeth Block
    August 2, 2016, 12:05 pm

    I tried to send Hank Johnson an email telling him that as a Jew, I support him. The simile was impolitic, but correct. The settlements are like termites, slowly but surely devouring Palestine.

    As for the ADL, it offers a counter-terrorism training in Washington, D.C. and in Israel, for law-enforcement officials. Where do you think Ferguson police learned their craft? Its parent org, Bnai Brith, used to be a civil-liberties organization. Now it’s a shill for Israel.

    • Yakov Hirsch
      August 5, 2016, 6:23 am

      Mooser
      August 3, 2016, 6:47 pm
      And knowing all that, they came here to piss and moan about ‘like termites’? Are they trying to taunt us with the depth of their hypocrisy, or are they that detached from politics in the real Israel? Or does their faith in the efficacy of their own assumed victimhood sustain them through any embarrassment? Who the hell knows.

      Mooser, I hope to give the best answer to this question you have ever heard before very long.

      • Mooser
        August 5, 2016, 10:35 am

        “Mooser, I hope to give the best answer to this question you have ever heard before very long.”

        Don’t hurry on my account.
        I’ve had my answer since before I was Bar Mitzvah. I’ll be happy to read your articles, but I doubt my answer will change much.

  25. inbound39
    August 4, 2016, 8:37 am

    Strewth….I came on here to read the comments and started reading what Mooser posted. I started laughing then choked on a laugh and coughed for twenty minutes. I now have tears down my cheeks. I enjoyed the laugh but not the coughing…lol. Mooser is one of a kind. This sites moral booster! :)

  26. Mooser
    August 4, 2016, 9:27 pm

    lol

    But Dad, I’m serious!

    (Thanks, “inbound39”)

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