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Donald Trump is a hero to Jewish Israelis. They extol the president for speaking his mind no matter who he offends, and following through on his word.

“Trump is an amazing president. What he promises he makes to happen,” says Rami, 45, the owner of a luggage shop. “He doesn’t care about the opinion of other people. This is how the president of the biggest country in the world needs to act.”

I interviewed 20 Israeli Jews in West Jerusalem after the embassy move and the Gaza massacre this week, and there was near universal agreement that Trump is a strong leader and a man of action, qualities Israelis admire.

“I think it’s time for such a leader that is not politically correct, not a diplomat but when he says something he means it,” Devorah, a 60-year-old, told me. “Maybe it’s time [for a leader] to be less diplomat and more human being.”

“It’s hard to believe, but he has been very good to us, Trump,” Nehama, a well-coiffed 47 year old with her son, said. “We [Israelis] have never been in such good position in the world. I think God puts the words in his mouth. I believe there is someone who manages the world” – and Trump in that belief is the instrument.

“I thought Trump was an idiot,” Chaya, an American-Israeli of 60, confessed. “He has surpassed every expectation. Though he’s still a womanizer and a loudmouth.”

As Chaya did, a couple of Israelis said that Trump was an idiot, but even these Israelis said they admired his strength.

The Israelis were obviously pleased that Trump had moved the embassy as he had promised, and scrapped the Iran deal, too, another campaign promise. Their comments also reflect Israeli  political culture, which has become far right in the last 10 years, with devotion to a strongman of their own, Benjamin Netanyahu.

And so the criticism and rage against Trump that you’d get in any big American city– and from most American Jews– is absent in Jerusalem. Indeed the Israeli praise for Trump is another sign that the two Jewish communities are dividing over political values.

Avraham Feld, 65, an American-Israeli wearing religious strings, said that Trump was the “worst nightmare” of the Democrats in his own American family. Yet he admires the man. “He’s already made history as one of the greatest American statesmen in history,” Feld said. “He went against his State Department on many issues. He’s choosing fact over fantasy when he puts the capital in Jerusalem.”

Others also praised Trump’s creativity. Miri, a religious woman of 53, said, “I like people that think outside the box. He believe what he do and he do it. He doesn’t care what people think.”

My method was hardly scientific. I spent three hours on the street and my respondents ranged from Labor to the rightwing religious parties; and love of Trump was universal. If the president ever crashes in America (if only!), he can come to Israel and go far.

Though an Israeli friend told me that Tel Aviv is the only city in the country that would not name a street after the American president. In Tel Aviv, he said, there is more disdain for the president.

A couple of Israelis expressed apprehension that Trump hadn’t given Netanyahu so much without a price: the president can now call Netanyahu and demand a settlement freeze or movement on the so-called two-state solution.

Though Rami, the shopowner, dismissed that fear. Trump doesn’t want a deal from Israel. “I don’t think it’s a relationship of give and take. Iran wants to make nuclear weapons, that is not good for Israel and not good for the world.” Rami sounded alot like Trump, and Netanyahu, too.

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  1. Maghlawatan
    May 18, 2018, 6:01 am

    Trump is a risk taker. He doesn’t consult with people. He doesn’t read briefs.
    And Israelis are messianic. They believe that history is over.
    They probably deserve each other.
    I am glad that Netanyahu has decided to lash Israel to the Republican Party.

    • Misterioso
      May 18, 2018, 12:23 pm

      @Maghlawatan

      It seems that neither Netanyahu nor Trump are familiar with the old adage, “lie down with dogs and you get fleas.” They are infecting each other.

      • Maghlawatan
        May 18, 2018, 1:31 pm

        Words and phrases used to describe Trump

        Globe fucker
        Stoking fear
        Everything negotiable.
        Craven cynical corrupt
        Chaotic governance
        not i n touch w reality.  Expression of spiritual blackout.
        Brutal father and mother with whom no relationship. Hunger for love. Greed Lust envy so visible.
        a creature of lies, rants, scams, and rages.

        A Day trader
        -Disregard for truth
        -Self interest
        -Inability to admit he is wrong
        Consistent line is unilateralism
        Blusterer thin skinned charlatan, sexual harasser bigot
        Naive ignorant detached from reality
        Sense of grievance
        every action gratuitously evil

        He respects authoritarians
        Ignorant coarse boastful cruel
        Bullying greed showing off misogyny
        third grade theatrics
        Incompetence and broken promises
        Instinct when criticised is attack, vilify and suppress
        Unpredictable temperamental impetuous
        White supremacist kleptocrat
        Vindictive chaos
        Impulsive thin skinned combative
        Dishonest bravado
        Lying fantasist

        Casual humiliation
        Erratic, irascible ill informed dishonest
        Nihilistic
        Dominates news like fart dominates a car
        Voraciously aggressive
        Capricious egocentric volatile
        Scant accountability n contempt for rules
        Propagator of mayhem
        Bigotry racism homophobia anti intellectualism calculated religious absolutism big data autocracy media hatred
        Easy to surprise ppl if you just make shit up.
        Fear mongering
        Gonzo president

        Alec Baldwin sez playing him is unpleasant cos he is angry and frustrated
        Americas Idi Amin
        Not self possessed
        They can’t write policies that make sense, they can’t implement policy, they can’t get their stories straight and they can’t close the deal.
        Reaction to being challenged is belligerence
        High tolerance for chaos
        He said he wd bomb the shit out.of ISIS
        Trump’s dreams preceding his own unexpected ascent were, quite obviously, the opposite: he wanted to be the man on the gilded throne, with all the cameras trained on him, transfixed by the spectacle of power being wielded. 
        eternal, bottomless ego gratification
        Breaking news fatigue.  not i n touch w reality.  Expression of spiritual blackout.
           Eclipse of Integrity honesty decency .  Disregard of rule of law. Expression of worst of American culture. 
         No mention of human rights as president makes U-turn from campaign rhetoric on Islam

        He has a face you would never, ever get tired of punching.

        The briefing papers McMaster’s team drew up before this trip had to be condensed to a few bullet points on a single page for each issue, and even then Trump grew bored of reviewing them before departure, and groused about how long the whole excursion would take.

        There is no right and wrong . There is winning and losing
        A hurt boy who wants to be loved.
        He lives in deficit. A black hole. All he wants is for people to love him. Nothing to sustain him inside .
        Psychological influences are authoritarian.
        Never read a book.
        Short attention span.
        Cynical and one dimensional
        I do it to do it but could never get enough attention.

        Where are all the leaks coming from? the fact that they keep coming is a sign of the state of near collapse of the White House staff. It’s not an exaggeration to say that Trump has the most unhappy staff ever, with some feeling a higher duty to warn the public about what they see as a danger to the country.
        From the stories that emanate from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue the impression one gets is that Trump is a nearly impossible person to work for: he screams at his staff when they tell him something he doesn’t want to hear; he screams at them as he watches television news for hours on end and sees stories about himself

        The art of the deal meets Dr Strangelove .
        Compulsive need to defend status
        nothing comes before Trump and airing a grievance.
        Malevolence tempered by incompetence
        Now malevolence exacerbated by incompetence.
        Petulant sociopath.
        Donald reportedly told Theresa May he will not make a state visit to the USA until he is guaranteed a “better reception”.
        Paranoia and narcissism.
         https://youtu.be/ON3EjK5DXPk

        world class narcissist/predator.
        Triggers for temper. 1 if he thinks sb lying 2 if caught by surprise 3 if criticised 4 if sb tries to stop him doing sth 5 if sb tries to control him

  2. Marnie
    May 18, 2018, 7:53 am

    “I thought Trump was an idiot,” Chaya, an American-Israeli of 60, confessed. “He has surpassed every expectation. Though he’s still a womanizer and a loudmouth.”

    As repugnant of a human being tRUMP is, he’s okay with the zionists because he ‘has surpassed every expectation”. What a goy!

  3. eljay
    May 18, 2018, 8:05 am

    Donald Trump is a hero to Jewish Israelis

    Is he a hero to Jewish Israelis or to Zionist Israelis?

    • echinococcus
      May 18, 2018, 1:28 pm

      Eljay,

      to Jewish Israelis or to Zionist Israelis?

      Apart from a small percentage of the population when the hostile invasion intent was made public by the Zionists, the invasion by hordes of non-Palestinian Jews has been organized by the Zionists.

      Any of the invader offspring who renounces Zionist ideology, ie understands that heshe is an invader is supposed to do the right thing and get out asap.

      As a result, any exception to the full identification of “Jewish Israelis” as “Zionist Israelis” is utterly negligible.

      • Maghlawatan
        May 18, 2018, 3:00 pm

        Echi, some sort of public penance will be necessary

        Do you reject Zionism? 
        R. I do. 
        V. And all its works? 
        R. I do. 
        V. And all its empty promises and dead Jews ? 
        R. I do. 
        V. Do you believe in international law, human rights and the laws of war ?
        R. I do. 
        V. Do you believe in property rights, equality and justice ?
        R. I do. 

      • echinococcus
        May 18, 2018, 4:29 pm

        Watan,

        Don’t try to confuse the issue. All they got to do is get the hell out. Most can lay claim to a citizenship; those who say they can’t are guaranteed a welcome in the States. Period.

      • RoHa
        May 18, 2018, 10:43 pm

        “V. And all its empty promises and dead Jews ? ”

        Are they not part of the “works” rejected in the previous line?

        If you want to specify, why not “And all its empty promises and murders, rapes, destruction, and overall misery?

        “V. Do you believe in property rights, equality and justice ?”

        Tough for the more socialist Zionists. They may well want to argue that property rights are incompatible with equality and justice.

      • Stephen Shenfield
        May 19, 2018, 9:07 am

        For how many generations do ‘invader offspring’ remain invaders? Isn’t this a sort of racism? And isn’t fear of expulsion one of the factors that lock most Jewish Israelis into Zionist ideology? And as most Palestinians no longer demand the expulsion of ‘invader offspring’ — understanding the harm that such a demand does to their cause — what kind of help do you imagine you are giving them by being ‘more Catholic than the Pope’?

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2018, 12:16 pm

        “For how many generations do ‘invader offspring’ remain invaders?”

        Until they stop the invasion. BTW, how many offspring does it take, at a minimum, to keep the Zionist project going?

      • echinococcus
        May 21, 2018, 1:04 am

        Shenfield,

        For how many generations do ‘invader offspring’ remain invaders? Isn’t this a sort of racism?

        I don’t have all the answers, of course, but a student of history like you readily gets that the American answer is Until Ye Sassenach Have Completed Ye Genocide Of Ye Owners Of Ye Country. Ask Sitting Bull and all the dispatched souls of the potential claimants. Why else do you think Zionists are committing genocide?

        As for “racism”, no. It is not, even though it is somehow part of the people’s characteristics at birth. What Anglosaxons won’t let nestle in their heads is the simple notion that not all countries, in fact only a small minority, base citizenship on jus soli. Proving right to it by descent or some other property is necessary for most countries. And a Good Thing it is, too, because the automatic application of citizenship by only place of birth is enough to defeat humanitarian and War Law, especially GC, much more effectively than any war of aggression in the case of hostile colonial settlements anywhere.

        Refusing to turn over sovereignty to a hostile group intent on takeover (by, among other things, compulsorily granting them citizenship) is not refusing refuge to people who need it: refugees are essentially defined as guests who agree to conform to your own laws and regulations, not overturn them and take away your country.

        And as most Palestinians no longer demand the expulsion of ‘invader offspring’ — understanding the harm that such a demand does to their cause…

        Until you come with a properly performed plebiscite of all Palestinians (justifying usual domicile in Ottoman Palestine at the time of hostile colonial intent declaration by the Basle Zionist Congress in 1897), i.e. in the total absence of military occupation or any other form of duress, allow me a whinny. In fact, that might be called channeling the Palestinian Pétains gallow-bait.

        If you read, look at what all other Palestinians who also would accept a [pie-in-the-sky nonsense of impossible] Zionist compromise say: that that ‘solution” is only a compromise. If you can’t make the difference between a compromise and justice, we can’t talk. Do you consider the South African solution full justice or a compromise –a good one, in my view?

        As for being more Catholic than the Pope, again, citizenship conditions are something decided by the representative body of the Palestinians –back to the plebiscite question. There is the Pope.

  4. CigarGod
    May 18, 2018, 8:46 am

    Interesting that the American flag on the banner is upside down.
    The sign of a country in dire distress.

  5. Kathleen
    May 18, 2018, 9:09 am

    Not surprising. Most Jewish Israeli’s support apartheid, theft of land, abuse of Palestinians etc.

    Poll after survey after poll confirms the embedded prejudices and bigotry of the majority of Jewish Israeli’s

    https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-israelis-say-no-vote-to-arabs-if-w-bank-annexed-1.5194145

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-thirds-of-jewish-israelis-dont-consider-west-bank occupied-poll/

    Israeli poll finds majority would be in favour of ‘apartheid’ policies
    Two-thirds say Palestinians should not be allowed to vote if West Bank was annexed, while three in four favour segregated roads

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/israeli-poll-majority-apartheid-policies

  6. Kathleen
    May 18, 2018, 9:17 am

    Phil did you challenge Rami by bringing up the obvious that Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons, refuses to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty and refuses to open up to international inspections.

    While Iran has no nuclear weapons, signed the NPT and has been subject to international inspections for a long time.

    The exceptionalism condition in Israeli society is shameful.

    • Citizen
      May 18, 2018, 10:48 am

      I wonder how the EU states are feeling these days about having no nukes & puny conventional military forces? & Japan? Australia? New Zealand?

    • Maghlawatan
      May 18, 2018, 10:55 am

      Israel is pretty shoddy for a supposedly exceptionalist land. Israeli education is mediocre. Israeli building standards are crap.

  7. Maghlawatan
    May 18, 2018, 10:33 am

    It is still before the great Israeli catastrophe that ended the occupation and broke the ideology of Zionism. Israelis don’t know this. Netanyahu is still seen as a success rather than a traitor.

    It is a constant struggle for rational thinking people to imagine process/consequences in the absence of rationality. However it does look as though Israel is on the same path as Imperial Japan.

     “During the war we were taught that Japan, the land of the Gods, was a righteous, divine country and that America was an evil, barbaric country. We didn’t actually believe this, but merely followed along, thinking that, since there was no such thing as a just war , such poisonous, simple minded rhetoric was a way to whip up a state of furious belligerence in the people. Again, we had doubts as to whether or not Japan would be capable of guiding the Greater Asia c0-prosperity sphere.. We did not think we would be defeated. It was not that we were so convinced of victory we never thought of defeat. It was simply unbearable to contemplate it, and because we could not imagine what our fate would be afterward we shielded our eyes from the possibility and went on believing in certain victory.
    ….
    People of the future will find it strange that during the war we so easily accepted an education smacking of distorted self esteem and hostility that advocated such preposterous ambitions, but for us the reasons seemed compelling”
    Diary of writer Yamada Futaro, October 1945, quoted in “So Lovely a country will never perish” p 152-153

  8. Maghlawatan
    May 18, 2018, 11:11 am

    Trump has decided to cut food programs for 2 million Americans. I guess they are not as important as Israelis.

    TalkPoverty.org‏ @TalkPoverty ·
    In 2019 the 1% will get over $84 billion in tax cuts from the #TrumpTaxScam. That’s more than the cost of the entire SNAP program–which House Republicans are now trying to slash. #HandsOffSNAP

    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2018/05/01/450214/tax-cuts-top-1-percent-cost-snap/

  9. Misterioso
    May 18, 2018, 11:12 am

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/ 2018/05/14/opinion/jerusalem- embassy-gaza-protests.html

    ​New York Times, May 14, 2018

    ​”A Grotesque Spectacle in Jerusalem”

    By Michelle Goldberg

    EXCERPT:
    “On Monday, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and other leading lights of the Trumpist right gathered in Israel to celebrate the relocation of the American Embassy to Jerusalem, a gesture widely seen as a slap in the face to Palestinians who envision East Jerusalem as their future capital.

    “The event was grotesque. It was a consummation of the cynical alliance between hawkish Jews and Zionist evangelicals who believe that the return of Jews to Israel will usher in the apocalypse and the return of Christ, after which Jews who don’t convert will burn forever.”

  10. echinococcus
    May 18, 2018, 2:33 pm

    Indeed the Israeli praise for Trump is another sign that the two Jewish communities are dividing over political values.

    BS again, if you’ll excuse my French.
    The overwhelming majority of “Jewish community”, US, not unlike the majority of Democrats and “Liberals”, never disagreed with Trump’s action whenever it was a matter of more aggression, more war, more Zionist occupation. The repeated aggression on Syria, the chemical hysteria and all other international acts of aggression by the US have only received clear and loud applause from the sectors mentioned.

    The only “liberal” and “Jewish” noises in the US against such acts by the Trump administration have come from very small minorities.

  11. JLewisDickerson
    May 18, 2018, 3:43 pm

    RE: “It’s hard to believe, but he has been very good to us, Trump,” Nehama, a well-coiffed 47 year old with her son, said. “We [Israelis] have never been in such good position in the world. I think God puts the words in his mouth. I believe there is someone who manages the world” – and Trump in that belief is the instrument. ~ from Phil’s post above

    SEE:
    “Trump’s Cruel Cuts to Palestinian Refugee Aid”
    By Karl Honegger | libertarianinstitute.org | April 14, 2018
    I believe the true answer to the defunding of UNRWA lies in the ability of Christian pro-Zionist leaders to make US foreign policy bend to their will.
    LINK ➤ https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/trumps-cruel-cuts-to-palestinian-refugee-aid/

    “Pro-Israel NGO puts pressure on UNRWA for aiding Palestinian refugees”
    by Alex Delmar-Morgan | MiddleEastEye.net | 7 March 2016
    ▪ Campaign by UN Watch to pressure US to cut $400m funds for UN’s Palestinian refugee agency could have devastating impact on its work
    LINK ➤ http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/pro-israeli-ngo-puts-pressure-unrwa-aiding-palestinian-refugees-1755634396

    Trump’s Jerusalem Move Caters to Religious Extremists
    TheRealNews
    Published on May 16, 2018
    The opening ceremony of the US Embassy in Jerusalem featured billionaire Sheldon Adelson and prominent far-right evangelical Christian leaders John Hagee and Robert Jeffress. We discuss the alliance between Trump, Netanyahu, and far-right extremists in both the US and Israel with journalists Max Blumenthal and Dan Cohen

    • JLewisDickerson
      May 19, 2018, 7:33 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE:
      “In Jerusalem, Christian Zionists Seal the Deal With Netanyahu”
      Friday, May 18, 2018
      By Bill Berkowitz, Truthout | News Analysis

      (EXCERPT) For right-wing Pastor John Hagee, it was a glorious day. In his view, Bible prophecy was being fulfilled and his personal comeback was complete. Here he was delivering the closing prayer at the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem. Less than 60 miles away, the Israeli military was slaughtering unarmed Palestinian demonstrators. How could Hagee not be thinking that this event — engineered and staged by the Trump administration, in coordination with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu — might be the launching point for the greatest battle ever: the “End Times”?

      “We thank you, O Lord, for President Donald Trump’s courage in acknowledging to the world a truth that was established 3,000 years ago — that Jerusalem is and always shall be the eternal capital of the Jewish people,” Hagee said. “Jerusalem,” he prayed, “is where Messiah will come and establish a kingdom that will never end.”

      Earlier, in an interview with Breitbart News, Hagee said he told Trump that he would win “political immortality” for moving the embassy from Tel Aviv. . .

      CONTINUED AT ~ http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44515-in-jerusalem-christian-zionists-seal-the-deal-with-netanyahu

      • JLewisDickerson
        May 20, 2018, 4:55 pm

        ALSO SEE: ■ “Trump’s Abortion Gag Order Is Already Hurting Health Care in Developing Nations”
        Sunday, May 20, 2018 | By s.e. smith, Care2 | Report
        LINK ~ http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44536-trump-s-abortion-gag-order-is-already-hurting-health-care-in-developing-nations

      • JLewisDickerson
        May 21, 2018, 2:56 pm

        “Religious, Political Reasons Behind President Donald Trump’s Jerusalem Decision”
        AM Joy | MSNBC I Published on Dec 11, 2017
        Donald Trump stating that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel likely pleases pro-Israel GOP donor Sheldon Adelson, plus Trump’s Christian right supporters, for purely religious reasons. Joy Reid and her guest [i.e., Frank Shaeffer] discuss the deeper background.

      • JLewisDickerson
        May 23, 2018, 11:45 pm

        “How White Evangelicals Sold Their Soul to Donald Trump To Bring About Armageddon”
        Thom Hartmann Program
        Published on May 21, 2018
        Frank Schaeffer, former Evangelical explains how white evangelicals in the United States put faith before country, before human rights, in making a “Devil’s Bargain” to support Donald Trump despite his less than Christian actions, for a handful of policy and power goals, namely moving the United States embassy into deputed Jerusalem, all of this to bring about the end of days foretold in the book of Revelations, Armageddon!

    • JLewisDickerson
      May 19, 2018, 8:23 pm

      P.P.S.
      Protests and Corruption Grow In Israel
      Watching the Hawks RT
      Published on May 16, 2018
      Protests in Gaza hit a violent high this week with dozens of Palestinians killed by Israeli forces and over 1,000 reportedly injured following the US embassy’s move to Jerusalem. Journalist Max Blumenthal joins Sean Stone and guest host Ashlee Banks to discuss the protests, as well as Benjamin Netanyahu’s corruption scandal and electoral prospects.

    • JLewisDickerson
      May 20, 2018, 12:44 pm

      P.P.P.S.
      The Donald Trump Phenomenon: A Psychological Analysis
      86,788 views
      OffshoreAlert
      Published on May 5, 2016
      Recorded live at The OffshoreAlert Conference on May 3, 2016.
      Donald Trump is leading a political revolution in the United States. This session will involve a psychoanalysis of Trump and his supporters, an explanation of his popularity, and what it says about the USA.

      • RoHa
        May 20, 2018, 6:41 pm

        “Donald Trump is leading a political revolution in the United States. ”

        It doesn’t look like it from this side of the world. As far as I can tell, Trump drowned in the swamp in his first thirty days. He is now a zombie mouthpiece for the Deep State.

        “This session will involve a psychoanalysis of Trump and his supporters, an explanation of his popularity, and what it says about the USA.”

        We don’t need a conference to tell us that Americans are nuts. We’ve known it for years.

      • JLewisDickerson
        May 21, 2018, 1:24 pm

        RE: “[F]rom this side of the world . . . [w]e don’t need a conference to tell us that Americans are nuts. We’ve known it for years.” ~ RoHa

        MY REPLY: Self(-)diagnosis is a much stickier wicket!

        ● Sticky wicket – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_wicket

        ● A sticky wicket – https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/334550.html

      • JLewisDickerson
        May 21, 2018, 1:54 pm

        Al Jarreau Sticky Wicket

        Al Jarreau Lyrics (“Sticky Wicket”) — https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/aljarreau/stickywicket.html

      • RoHa
        May 22, 2018, 1:05 am

        Off topic.

        A matter of curiosity, JLD.

        I’ve noticed that you very frequently give definitions of common words and phrases (such as “sticky wicket”) even when they are being used in the standard way. Why is that?

      • echinococcus
        May 22, 2018, 4:23 am

        RoHa

        Wicky Stickit is something we never hear. As to knowing what the dickens that means, no need to worry, it’s sure to be impossible to understand.

      • RoHa
        May 22, 2018, 10:57 pm

        Echi, you may not say “sticky wicket” in your barbarous, cricket-deprived, wastelands, but surely you have read the term often in P.G. Wodehouse and other English Lit.

        The same goes for most of the other terms which JLD defines. I don’t mind him doing it. I’m just curious as why he feels the need.

      • echinococcus
        May 23, 2018, 12:13 pm

        RoHa,

        I guess JLD has a correct estimate of the general knowledge level of us barbarians growing in our wastelands (I wouldn’t know about other barbarians) and he’s trying to help. Wrong policy, of course.

      • RoHa
        May 24, 2018, 1:34 am

        Echi, depressing thought.

  12. guyn
    May 18, 2018, 3:50 pm

    “It’s hard to believe, but he has been very good to us, Trump,” Nehama, a well-coiffed 47 year old with her son, said. “We [Israelis] have never been in such good position in the world.”

    Are they in such a good position or is it the beginning of the end for them? Sometimes appearances are deceptive.

    • chocopie
      May 18, 2018, 4:47 pm

      Yeah, they’re in a good position in relation to the US, but their position in the world is getting worse. Funny that the speaker thinks otherwise. Maybe she means militarily.

      It’s good that they’ve embraced Trump. When Israel was trying to align itself with Anne Frank, justice for Palestinians was a hard sell. It gets a lot easier now that Trump has pushed Anne off the stage.

      • Maghlawatan
        May 19, 2018, 1:36 am

        The people in charge in Israel now are a long way from Anne Frank. They remind me of Dolan,the 4 chan même Duck.

        http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dolan

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=Dolan&amp=true
        “A poorly drawn Donald Duck who speaks in a broken English. He is a homicidal, bisexual, depraved necrophiliac and sociopath. He is also oddly polite, frequently saying “pls” as he rapes and murders his friends and family. He is always smiling because he does what he loves for a living. He is feared and loathed by all except for the Brolans, his loyal followers. He is classified as a “meme”.

        Gooby
        Dolan’s friend and enemy. Often is raped and tortured by Dolan. His quote is “fak u dolan”

        Dolan:hey gooby lets go at mcdolans tu get an big mek 
        Gooby: k 
        Dolan: 1 big mek pls. *whispering* with sh#t in it pls 
        Gooby: k now giv me te big mek 
        Dolan: k 
        Gooby: *omnom* this big mek tasts lik sh#t 
        Dolan: is acually sh#t 
        Gooby: fak u dolan 
        Dolan: gooby pls”

        Gooby is the Palestinians
        The Brolans include the evangelicals, the UK board of deputies, Hannity, Adelson and the ADL.

  13. Steve Grover
    May 18, 2018, 4:00 pm

    (1) Phil is sexist. Sexist towards Jewish Women. Would he describe the hair appearance of a Palestinian woman who didn’t have her hair covered?
    “It’s hard to believe, but he has been very good to us, Trump,” Nehama, a well-coiffed 47 year old with her son, said.”
    (2) Phil is Anti-Semitic. Phil doesn’t use the word “Tzitzit” or “Tzitzis” but calls them “Religious Strings”. Would Phil call a Keffiyeh or a Hijab something other than what they’re actually called? He has a disdain for everything a religious Jewish Person wears and all of their rituals.
    “Avraham Feld, 65, an American-Israeli wearing religious strings,”
    (3) Yes a mysoginist and demogogue can do something right. Heck Phil, you were even pumping up Trump until he started speaking from a Pro-Israel perspective early in in his candidacy. Jews in the U.S. lament that it wasn’t Obama who moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. But the Iran Nuke Deal left American Jews little hope. I’m thankful that Trump did the correct think.
    ““I thought Trump was an idiot,” Chaya, an American-Israeli of 60, confessed. “He has surpassed every expectation. Though he’s still a womanizer and a loudmouth.””

    • Mooser
      May 18, 2018, 9:09 pm

      Hey “Grover”, you ain’t heard nothin’ yet. Considering where the American Embassy is, it might be difficult to staff, and very expensive to staff, too.

      • echinococcus
        May 19, 2018, 12:05 am

        Mooser,

        No prob. AIPAC will kindly volunteer a bunch of goons to staff the embassy at no extra cost –but the usual US taxpayer money.

    • CigarGod
      May 19, 2018, 8:34 am

      Phil should just give up words and take pictures, eh Grover?
      Then what would it be…sexist camera, trigger finger or eye?

      Thine eye offends Grover, Phil. Pluck it out!

      • Mooser
        May 19, 2018, 12:21 pm

        “CigarGod”, if we didn’t have “Grover” (and the herd of ilk) to tell us what is anti-Semitic (and sexist, too), how would we know? We ain’t got the ethics.

    • rhkroell
      May 19, 2018, 7:24 pm

      “Phil [Weiss] is Anti-Semitic. Phil doesn’t use the word “Tzitzit” or “Tzitzis” but calls them “Religious Strings.”

      I was under the impression that any questioning of Israel’s policies (or criticism of Zionist beliefs or behavior) — any questioning or criticism whatsoever — was the new threshold that needed to be crossed before judging and convicting a person of being an self-evident, unapologetic antisemite.

      But failing to use the traditional, orthodox (or Ultra-Orthodox?) terminology when describing the habiliment of “Jews” is the new threshold for adjudicating this specific kind of bigotry —antisemitism — apparently. Thanks for bringing me up to date.

      I’ll be on the lookout to identify antisemites, Jew-haters, Judeophobes, etc. in this manner from now on. I didn’t realize I was so out of touch, behind the times, out-of-date, démodé! Thanks, bro. Really. I had no idea.

  14. RoHa
    May 18, 2018, 9:44 pm

    “Phil is sexist.”

    So what? Does that mean that Trump isn’t a hero to Israeli Jews?

    “Phil is Anti-Semitic.”

    Similarly irrelevant. But also perhaps not true. Everyone knows what keffiyehs and hijabs are, but only a tiny minority have any idea what tzitzis are. (My predictive text and spell check predicted “keffiyeh” and ” hijab”. I won’t tell you what it offered for “tzitzis”. )

    So perhaps he was just being helpful to the majority. That is, readers like me, who have never heard of the things.

    • echinococcus
      May 19, 2018, 12:10 am

      Ro Ha,

      “Tzitzit or Tzitzis (Hebrew: ציצית) are “fringes” worn by Jews on the corners of four-cornered garments, including the Tallit (prayer shawl) and Tallit Katan. Since they are considered by Orthodox tradition to be a time-bound commandment, they are worn only by men. ”

      http://www.halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Tzitzit

      So much for crying “sexist”.

      • Mooser
        May 22, 2018, 4:06 pm

        “they are worn only by men.”

        Fringes worn by men”? It thought it was a skin problem.

      • RoHa
        May 23, 2018, 12:50 am

        Mooser, the software correction for “tzitzis” was even more inappropriate for men.

      • Mooser
        May 23, 2018, 12:03 pm

        “Mooser, the software correction for “tzitzis” was even more inappropriate for men.”

        That ‘predictive text’ feature will get you in trouble. There should be a “settings” where you can turn it off.

    • Mooser
      May 20, 2018, 1:34 pm

      “My predictive text and spell check…” “RoHa”

      Ah, so that’s it, you use “Predictive text and spell check”. (NTTAWWT!) I always wondered why you didn’t sound just like Crocodile Dundee.

      • RoHa
        May 21, 2018, 1:19 am

        Mostly I fight against predictive text.

        You’d be shocked if you heard me speak. My accent makes people (British as well as Australian) think I went to a posh public (i.e. private) school in Britain. Actually, I went to perfectly ordinary state schools in Adelaide.

        So, unlike every other Australian, I don’t sound quite like Crocodile Dundee.

      • Mooser
        May 21, 2018, 1:45 pm

        “Mostly I fight against predictive text.”

        Turn it off, turn auto-correct off (to avoid howling homonyms) and leave spell-check on to point up typos, and correct as necessary.
        Do that and your prose will be, like old Freddie telling the story of the girl and the suitcase, ” as limpid as damnit”. Just listen to the rhythm of the preceding sentence, doesn’t it stagger and trip all over itself?

        “You’d be shocked if you heard me speak.”

        Nah. That verbal class distinction, by now should be antique.

      • Mooser
        May 21, 2018, 9:41 pm

        ” My accent makes people (British as well as Australian) think I went to a posh public (i.e. private) school in Britain.”

        Maybe Winchester, like Lord Alfred Douglas.

      • RoHa
        May 22, 2018, 6:15 am

        Maybe Rugby, like Flashman.

        The predictive text is on my iPad. I don’t know how to turn it off. (I’m assuming by “off” you mean “off” and not “on”.)

        Homonyms prowl round the house all night, and keep me awake with their howling.

      • gamal
        May 22, 2018, 10:35 am

        “Homonyms prowl round the house all night”

        don’t touch them the dirty things carry “Homonymous Hemianopia”, which isn’t half as bad as it sounds but why risk it, Antonyms are so expensive these days

        if you are invited to Homo Si Tec (it’s in Cakavaski), it is unlikely to be as shocking as one has every right to expect unless they do so over an unreasonable distance.

      • Mooser
        May 22, 2018, 11:39 am

        ” I don’t know how to turn it off”

        Yeah, I’ve noticed that. Oh well, if you spoke as I do, sir, instead of the way you do, why, you might be selling flowers, too!

    • Steve Grover
      May 22, 2018, 1:18 pm

      Religious Strings are so descriptive of what they are. Weiss believes Tzitzit are nothing more than silly string.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 22, 2018, 1:38 pm

        a string is what you make it — nothing more nothing less. your reality is nothing more than your perception http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/psygroup.pdf?mod=article_inline (see the lion of judah? from the israeli company being investigated by mueller?)

      • Steve Grover
        May 22, 2018, 2:01 pm

        If Phil feels he needs the services of the company whose brochure you shared and if he can afford them, then engage them. I haven’t used their services so I can’t recommend them. And thanks for asking for my input.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 22, 2018, 2:32 pm

        i believe their services are no longer available (reports of the website shut down)as of today after the nyt and wsj reported mueller was investigating the collaboration with the israeli company and the trump administration. i didn’t share it because i thought phil needed it, i shared it because what you said reminded me of it. the cat and the string etc. you can see whatever you want in either of them.

      • Mooser
        May 22, 2018, 3:58 pm

        “Weiss believes Tzitzit are nothing more than silly string.”

        Does Phil know that even Spiderman, with all his web-slinging power, ducks into the nearest chapel and yells “Sanctuary” when faced by a Tzitzit-wielding opponent?

      • Maghlawatan
        May 22, 2018, 4:29 pm

        The tzitzit fly attacks cattle.
        Every religion has a version of the magic underwear of the Mormons.
        They bring the faithful closer to God. But nothing brings people closer to God than torturing civilians. I think. It makes sense in Hebrew

  15. Maghlawatan
    May 19, 2018, 1:25 am

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/19/australia-and-us-oppose-un-move-for-independent-inquiry-into-gaza-violence

    Australia has aligned with the United States as one of only two countries to vote against an independent investigation into the recent killing of 60 Palestinians in Gaza.

    The United Nations human rights council held a special meeting on Friday night to discuss the “deteriorating human rights situation in the occupied Palestinian territory”.

    Twenty-nine countries, an overwhelming majority, voted to urgently set up an “independent, international commission of inquiry” to investigate recent violations of human rights and international humanitarian law there. 

  16. Matt McLaughlin
    May 19, 2018, 11:53 am

    Bringing an administrative center for a secular nation into Jerusalem even violates tenants of Protestantism. But really, the whole coverage of Israel is odd because it’s never mentioned that most Zionists are Protestant, and that many more Jews are vacating the identity than arriving to live the Zionist lifestyle. Zionists are panicking.

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