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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
Not to mention the amorphous "they"
The new nyt public editor Margaret Sullivan is very proactive; we should write in.
While I admire that Rudoren is actually in Gaza, she appears unable to shed her biases. Her shameful article on the Dalu massacre makes basically these same points: there are no tears, victims are hailed as martyrs, a militaristic culture, cries of la illaha and allahu akbar
link to mobile.nytimes.com
What are a few hundred Palestinian lives in a game to eliminate a rival who made him look weak.
Oops, get a turn to speak.
Do Iranians ever a turn to speak?
i hayve to say that I am quite optimistic... ever since Bronner left, even Kershner's pieces have seemed a little less unbalanced and more willing to give a Palestinian perspective.
Actually McArdle is on a sabbatical and has a roster of guest bloggers to fill in. So that post is by milman; mcardle is incapable of such reasoning or sticking her neck out like this.
link to haaretz.com
"soldiers recently resumed the use of prohibited tear gas canisters to disperse demonstrations in the West Bank.
These tear gas grenades, which are in effect 40 mm rounds with a range of 250 meters, were responsible for numerous serious injuries and at
Don't you think its rather amazing that of all the countries that use tear gas, it seems to be only Israel that manages to kill people in the process... maybe could teach others a lesson or too
NYT wrote about this too... link to nytimes.com
WASHINGTON — For more than a year, prominent former American officials have been giving well-paid speeches in support of an Iranian opposition group that is fighting to reverse its 15-year-old designation by the State Department as a terrorist organization.
Now the Treasury Department appears to have begun an inquiry to see whether the speaking fees were being paid by the group, the Mujahedeen Khalq, or People’s Mujahedeen, known as the M.E.K. Americans are prohibited by law from doing business with designated terrorist groups.
I wish we could get them to correct the correction: these are not rubber bullets, but rubber-coated bullets.
FirsterAn even more telling correction:
link to mobile.nytimes.com
Correction: March 8, 2012
A picture caption with an earlier version of this article explained imprecisely the activity of the Israeli soldiers shown. While the soldiers were indeed firing rifles at stone throwers in the West Bank town of Al Ram last month, the rifles contained rubber bullets. The article does not recount the soldier’s activity.
It's the style at some newspapers that if an acronym is longer than four letters, it's renderedlike that; so NATO, but Aipac or Unicef.
Wanted to share a great report on the Jerusalem clashes:
link to salem-news.com
Phil, you're mixing up Beatrice Webb with Beatrix Potter.
The NYT has, for it, an unusually close look at one Palestinian child's treatment at the hands of the IOF. In it, near the top, is a passing reference to Khader Adnan. Weirdly, it doesn't name him.
link to nytimes.com
Maybe Shaktimaan's handle ( it means powerful) indicates a might is right philosophy
"Considered two separate nations"? Tell that to the people in the West Bank.
And since Israel is a occupying force, it is bound by the Geneva conventions.
(Are they outsourcing hasbara to India, now, Shaktimaan
annie, far be it from me to defend ethan, but reporters do not write headlines, which are where the urls come from. whatever headline a copy editor puts on the first time the story is published is what beomes that part of the url. the url is ususually never reedited, unless there is something egregiously wrong in it, since it will break older links pointing to that article.
also, A2 headlines in most large papers are done by a different set of editors who work off whtever might be on the story at the time. By the end of the night a couple of editors may have reworked the final headline on the article page depending on print specifications and that is what is usually the final headline on the web, too.
Are super pac donations public? I wonder why they wouldn't keep it under wraps?
She must be afraid of Newt moving on to a younger wife 4.0
And they say Palestinian children are taught to hate. Imagine the life-long effects of such stupid stunts on young children.
Rather, wont the Tea Party want to know why U.S. dollars are supporting socialism... are these the ideals and priinciples the U.S. and Israel share?
hilarious. maybe if bin laden had been captured alive by the Norwegians they could have done a psych eval on him, and found he was profoundly disturbed, and everyone would be lining up to apologize. Breivik is lucky he wasn't bundled off to Guantanamo, where if you werent crazy to begin with....you certainly would end up mad.
Interesting post by John Caruso at Tiny Revolution.
link to tinyrevolution.com
Quotes Craig Murray and Ray McGovern saying Obama administration sources indicated they wouldn't mind a little bloodshed to shore up cred with the Israel lobby.
I'd add Anthony Weiner
But DSK noted it himself:
I'd say DSK's thinks its relevant himself:
His actual words (in the context of war on Iran) were a bit better
NYTimes
Protesters Killed in Clashes With Israel
Israel’s borders erupted as thousands of Palestinians marched from Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank on the anniversary when Arabs mourn Israel’s creation.
LATimes:
Israeli soldiers open fire on throngs of Palestinian refugees and protesters as they attempt to cross Israel's borders with Syria, Lebanon and the Gaza Strip in bitter remembrance of the Palestinians' displacement with the founding of Israel.
It's a well-known (at least in NYC) fashion blog.
You don't understand, for most news organizations having an american cover foreign events is very important precisely because they don't get bogged down in unnecessary detail and nuance. And most importantly they can tell you what it means for the U.S.
It seems to me the passage's main purpose is to convey that he bus wasn't hit accidentally, as one would assume from the relatively crude arms at Hamas' disposal, but was a deliberate targeting. I'm still not buying it.
Does Hamas have the ability to acurately pick a target at a distance of two miles?
What a loss. My condolences to his family.
This reminds me of Angry Arab's post about Western journalists being attacked at Jerusalem's central bus station when they went to cover the bombing last week. Wonder if it was these elements.
Congratulations, Phil! I came upon the site during the dark days of the 2008 assault and it's been almost daily reading for me since. Though I'm not able to participate as much as I'd like, I am grateful to be able to read the thoughtful posts and the lively debates in the comments. Thanks for creating this space and community.
I stopped reading at this line: "Anthony was shot in the back in 2002 by a man he believed to be an Israeli soldier. "
I'm excited to see Miral, but it really bothers me that the title role isn't played by a Palestinian actress, but an Indian... Freida Pinto who I thought was awful in Slumdog Millionaire.
I caught this the other day, and was surprised and impressed. Hopefully the comment stuck with some in the audience, and they will think about it and further weigh the implications, talk about it among friends. Baby steps.
Thanks for adding the links to the videos, I was commenting from my phone, and am not very good at adding links or even cutting and pasting yet!
The character on "The Good Wife," Eli Gold wasn't confirmed as Jewish until the episode last week, 2/22, with his daughter.
I had high hopes for "The Good Wife" since an early episode showed the politician's daughter with a copy of Jimmy Carter's Apartheid book and she has a brief argument with her father about what was happening there.
Coincidentally, two shows I watch both had subliminal off-the-cuff pro-Israeli comments. On "the Good Wife" as one character says "I come in peace," the other mutters, "like Yasser Arafat." the previous week, when that character's daughter was begging for permission to go to Israel, to a kibbutz, he had responded " you'll get killed by a Palestinian version of yourself."
And on the other, a family drama, "parenthood," a father takes on baby-sitting duties with "who wants to play hide and seek Israeli army-style?" I'm not sure what to make of the second one.
It's amazing how thin-skinned and closed-minded all these young students, supposed to be at college to expand their horizons are. Years ago at NYU, people on a journalism school listserv got mad because I posted the occasional article by Fisk and Chomsky. They said they felt intimidated!
So you're saying Netanyahu is far-right religious?
Netanyahu Sees Iran as Amalek, Advisor Says
link to israelnationalnews.com
BHL is as shallow as they get. He got egg on his face recently quoting a non-existent philosopher. He was taken in by a spoof.
Hi, the link for the pre-1948 photos isn't coded right, could you fix? thanks
I guess the New Yorker can't help itself. I finally read James Wood's review of "The Finkler Question" -- and he you can tell he hates the book, mostly because of the obsessive self-glorification of Jews, but he has to do it on tiptoes and add that he thinks Carol Churchill's play (which Jacobson parodies) is anti-Semitic, thereby throwing a bone to Zionists and establishing his Israel bonafides.
OT: Was there a discussion of the Man Booker going to "Finkler's Question"
Actually, Washington Post has a piece on it, as does the LA Times
Hophmi, you really should read before you comment. RW clearly said:
The Gandhis of the modern Congress party are genetically related to Mohandas Gandhi, and politically through association with Congress.
Actually there is no genetic connection whatsoever. Jawaharlal Nehru's daughter Indira married one Feroze Gandhi (a Zoroastrian) who was no relation to MK Gandhi.
The point is that there was a revered Indian leader, considered the father of the nation, who tried his best to promote religious harmony and understanding.
India's Muslims are native to the subcontinent, not just for a few generations, but going back 500 years.
The Muslim homeland, egged on by British colonialists, was envisioned as a haven for an oppressed minority, with the idea that they could never get adequate representation under a democracy in a Hindu-majority nation.
However flawed, the Indian partition plan was mutually agreed upon by Hindu and Muslim leaders claiming to represent their communities. The subsequent population transfer was an unmitigated disaster, with millions killed or dying in the process.
And it was also a disaster for the 100 million or more Muslims who remained in India, with their numbers shrinking and their voice less likely to be heard in a clamorous democracy. ON top of it, they still get blamed for Partition by rightwing Hindus who would like to see it reversed and who dream of "Akhund Bharat" -- undivided India incorporating Pakistan and even Nepal. For them every mosque must have been built on a demolished temple, and they tell Muslims -- go to Pakistan, or qabristan (cemetery). They say that Muslims don't belong in India, that their loyalties lie in Mecca etc.
Many people in India and Pakistani actually believe Partition was a huge mistake, and that the two countries combined -- a one-state solution to concerns about rights and representation -- could have achieved much more, instead it’s a source of festering religious animosities.
Yes, puritanical Muslims may complain about it, but Islam as practiced in India incorporates a lot of Sufi trends that came out of the syncretic tradition, including music, visiting shrines, many extra festivals.
And actually, the trend of inter-religious (inter-caste) marriage, especially in cities, is increasing, because of the increasing Westernization of lifestyles. Unlike a generation ago, young people often move out, leaving their small town to study and work in cities, where they are free from traditional constraints. Individual choices are trumping social pressures.
I think Pillar fundamentally misreads the situation.
Hindus were not conquered or became oppressed subjects. The Central Asian rulers who came to India in the 10th-15th centuries were integrated into Indian society and insofar as anyone was oppressed, it was equal opportunity feudalism.
Yes, Gandhi fought for independence on moral grounds, and rejected violence. But modern Indian politics is not based on high-minded principles but the dynamics of democracy -- majority rule, vote blocs etc. And in this democracy Muslims are way, way behind and often left feeling powerless and helpless. Educationally, socially and economically. Yes, there are some movie stars (some who can't get entry to certain housing communities!) and entrepreneurs, but they are the exception.
And in essence, in Ayodhya, the court upheld "might is right" by dividing a piece of property that clearly (with title) belonged to the Muslim Waqf (community holding) board. Legal experts in India are horrified at what this implies. Somebody could plant idols anyplace and unleash a nightmare of litigation that will end in the "disputed" property being divided -- between the rightful owners and the usurpers.
Obviously, in the I/P situation, even such a ruling would be progress -- but it's only akin to withdrawing from Gaza, or giving up part of the West Bank. Not some huge compromise representing some underlying understanding between the communities.
Fabulous! I'm so glad your wife went with you! Do you think she would think of writing up an op-ed piece and submitting it in a couple of places?
This reminds me of the Indians who are always mad that the Western media seems to focus on the poverty and dire situation there and they talk about the high-tech companies and luxury hotels and malls and the state of the art hospitals. But when someone arrives there for the first time, the overwhelming sensory experience, if you step out of your taxi or tour couch is the poverty and dirt - the flies. That beautiful hotel was built mostly by manual labor, people living in little shanties 50 yards away.
Not sure what you're getting at here. But 22:78 says ".... It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind!"
The idea is that all the prophets were Muslims... it was only later that their followers came to be known as as Jews or Christians.
Some Muslims, especially in former British colonies, for a while referred to themselves as Mohammedans, since that's what they were called by Western colonialists.
Winds of change? Nicholas Kristof speaks to Rabbis for Human Rights in a video on nytimes.com.
Front page blurb is "Nicholas Kristof talks with rabbis who are protecting Palestinian farmers from hostile Jewish settlers in the West Bank."
@RW
Ethnic cleansing is ongoing, from Bedouin tribes in the Negev to Palestinian families in Jerusalem>.
God forbid, Witty, that you ever suffer a home invasion. You can tell yourself that it's just a "presence."
Interesting blog post reference Philip Giraldi at WashPost. Apparently Mossad agents posing as CIA/FBI are trying to recruit Arabs and Muslims in the U.S. !
link to blog.washingtonpost.com
The greatest hits of Orientalism, those sneaky, snivelling, unreliable and always predictable Arabs.
Oh dear, mods, could you fix the coding on my prior post?!
All the articles I've seen so far on the talks are all about what the Palestinians must do. Israel just needs to sit pretty, and if it feels like it, nod. And with the settlers' killings, the focus is even more narrowly put on Israeli security. LA Times has done two pieces, one on "disputed' Hebron as a powderkeg that could ruin the microcosm the talks, and other on how Palestinian security forces face pressure to step up effort to prevent violence against settlers.
Nowhere is there one mention of what Palestinians face in the West Bank, the harassment by IOF AND the settlers. Not one word about what Israel should do to establish good faith! Even the references to the fake settlement moratorium do not give any context about why Palestinians won't the freeze -- i.e. that it is being built on their stolen land and they more are built, the less land there is for a Palestinian state. Instead you'd think the bad Palestinians won't even let the Israelis build on their own land.
It's nauseating.
If you read the LA Times today, you would have no idea that the West Bank is occupied, that the settlers have come from outside....
Those poor settlers, beleaguered by 150,000 Palestinians!
Will you blame the Israeli government for their deaths? For luring human shields in their bid to appropriate more land?
Robert Fisk's new piece talks about how Israel has for all practical purposes become an undeclared member of the EU.
As of this week, she's now Mrs Weiner!
President Clinton officiated, what a great way to start a marriage!
Well, it's working, the post has been scrubbed from her blog.
Another NYT reporter, Jennifer Steinhauer, thinks "Arab" and "terrorist" is interchangeable. See this recent correction:
Wanted to point out a fabulous op-ed by Omar Kurdi on the UC Irvine Muslim Student Assn banning.
He also quoted a non-existent philosopher "Botul" based on a spoof philosphy book.
Apparently the school of 'Botulism' wasn't a giveaway
ha ha
oops wrong post
NYT: Steamy Turkish soaps captivate Arab viewer
They describe it as part of Turkey's 'soft power.' When have you ever heard of Bold and the Beautiful, screened all over Asia, described that way?
It adds this:
Through the small screen, Turkey has begun to exercise a big influence at Arab dinner tables, in boardrooms and bedrooms from Morocco to Iraq of a sort that the United States can only dream about. Turkey’s cultural exports, not coincidentally, have also advanced its political ambitions as it asserts itself on that front, too, sending a flotilla to Gaza, defying the United States over sanctions on Iran, talking tough to its onetime ally, Israel, and giving Kemal Ataturk’s constitutionally secular state an Islamic tinge.
I was thinking something similar, but on a smaller scale. Print up fliers and leave them in public places, waiting rooms etc.
Doing a google search with the alternate Joulani spellling, I found that AP had moved a story June 10, spelling his name Zeyad Joulani
Police were investigating the incident and the 41-year-old driver's background before determining whether to treat the case as a politically motivated attack against police or a hit-and-run accident, national police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said. The officers were slightly wounded.
Lots of the smaller dailies around the U.S. picked it, with photos of the funeral, including the heart-searing one of young Yasmeen., though maybe only on their online versions. I hope some readers are unable to shake those images.
eg link to signonsandiego.com
BTW, Maan has photos of the soldiers shooting and Joulani in the hospital, a gunshot wound to his face.
FWIW, not sure how I missed it, but Kershner did have a short report on June 11 on Jilani's death, giving only the Israeli account, while mentioning that the circumstances remained unclear.
link to nytimes.com
Though Maher loves to tout his atheism, he does often mention that he's half-Jewish half-Catholic. Funny how he goes after the Catholic Church hammer and tongs but can't bring such a perspective to Israel.
Saree Makdisi on Helen Thomas. Not one of his best pieces, but good to see it in a large daily. The comments are heating up.
It was really heartening to hear the audience's knowing laughter at that question
Talk about suicide bomber!
Already debunked as fabricated.
link to aliabunimah.posterous.com
I personally remember listening to that second video, within an hour or so of the flotilla attack. They have some gall to doctor it and present it. And who made this utter garbage. Who talks like that?
Is it me, or does it seem like Bengli and Kiliclar (2 and 3), Yildirim and Yildiz (5, 6) and Songyur and Akyuz (7,8) look like each other. We've already noted that Bilgen might have been mistaken for Sheik Salah. Were these other men unfortunate enough to look like someone on their hit list.
Yes, that NYT blogger, Robert Mackey has (it seems to me) quietly filling in the holes of the regular coverage. He did a post on Emily Henchowicz and Edward Peck too.
I've noticed NYT's news blogger Robert Mackey has been linking to stuff the main reporters ignore. His latest post talks about Furkan Dogan, links to Ambassador Pecks interview and also talks about Emily Henochowicz
link to thelede.blogs.nytimes.com
WaPo's Mark Fiore has a good cartoon
link to bit.ly
Wow, what a great exclusive, one that Debka files doesn't care to byline or attribute. But then, it's such a credible account, from such a credible site!
strict military regiment. LOL
Let's hope Turkey decides to put a blockade on Israel. How fun would that be?
yes, but it was a spoof "mark regev" who denounced him!
aargh, got taken by an official looking and very good Twitter spoofer.
New Hasbara lies at the IDF, oops Jerusalem, Post.
During its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navy’s takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip.
Britain's Nick Clegg speaks out forcefully against the blockade. Mark Regev calls hims a "notorious anti-Semite"
The best snark is coming from twitter.com/tinyrevolution
eg:
Why is the media ignoring the hundreds of people the Israeli military DIDN'T massacre? #doublestandards
It's now more urgent than ever that the UN impose harsh sanctions on the madmen of Tehran
Don't you know the facts are still in disupte. They could have grabbed the guns and shot themselves just to make the Israelis look bad. /s
I like how a kaffiyeh is placed among the confiscated items... the deadliest weapon of all, ask Rachel Ray.
one of the ship's captain's was greek, and i'm guessing some of the protesters too.
Overnight I was wondering whether these 15 or so deaths could do what the 1500 in Gaza or 2000 or more in Lebanon couldn’t and awaken international action. I fear not.
Another thing I wondered is what this will mean for Turkey’s internal politics. If Erdogan tries to react strongly, will the military be emboldened? It has been chafing against him for years now. As the flotilla set sale, Israeli commentators tried to vilify Erdogan as an Islamist and that this flotilla was part of his attempts to Islamize the country!?