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true. He's probably saying what Hillary (team Billary) wants to ensure her 2016 run.
Slick Willy style...
Although a total blowhard, he makes a good point. a few phone calls verses thousand of phone calls. What political servant is not going to want to taste the sweet campaign cash of a few Zionists? It's like a fresh pair of sneakers during the last 5 miles of a marathon.
Look at Anthony Weiner's pockets - full of Zionist money. He already had 4.5 million last summer. Zionst politics are based on successful betting strategies, but it often does backfire.
"They KNOW that the boundaries of EVERY country in the Middle East were IMPOSED on them by the Great Imperialist western nations of the time, Britain and France and with the consent of Russia. It was the creation of ALL those artificial new national boundaries ,not just Israels’, that caused and continues to destabilise the region."
Miriam,
There were negotiations happening way before the founding of the state of Israel. The Balfour Declaration happens right around Sykes-Picot in 1917.
Israel did not exist before the Sykes–Picot Agreement and the Zionists lobbied on the British side for new land during these negotiations. The link you provided discusses the British-Zionist discussions during the negotiations in 1914. British Zionists saw their opportunity to have a Jewish state of Israel carved out of the negotiations, and they were involved in the British negotiations while the Arabs lands were being divided from this agreement by European colonial powers. Israel and Arabs were hardly in the same predicament, and you seem to indicate that imperial powers had created the this strife.
The Balfour declaration came in 1917, only two years after the Sykes–Picot Agreement. Also, see British Uganda Programme in 1903 (a British offer to Jewish Zionists for a homeland [13,oo sq.km])
what a racket the lobby has, trying to get this zionist pervert elected as mayor. It shows how desperate they are and how poor their 'talent pool' is.
There was a congressman in upstate NY who took a shirtless pic of himself a few years ago and had to resign, and the world got to see Weiner's boner through his boxer shorts. As Cuomo said if we elect this clown 'shame on us'.
I think Weiner's Zionism is probably what created his online perversion scandal. He can really be a closet zionist and a politician and get away with it. But he was also a closet perv and a politician, but somehow that didn't work.
These scoundrels need exposure, for they are the corrupt underbelly that perpetuates Israeli intransigence and illegal settlements, they act as a satellite outpost for Israeli interests inside the US. Booker is a dreamer that should convert if he is such a believer - I’ve seen him get a glassy eyed on Charlie Rose about change in Newark, I mean -what a hero rescuing people from burning buildings (watch for that in his commercial adverts for senate). He presents himself as a putty-like doe-eyed champion, but with a charlatan like Boteach as your tightest friend, I wonder what really motivates him? It must be the spirits of Judaism.
And Boteach is one of the greater swindlers in the mainstream news today. His Michael Jackson tapes revealed he would sell out any one to make a buck and raise his media stake, as he was called his spiritual advisor, lol - sadness. Then, his failed bid for congress and then his Huffington Post article had me laughing at what a pathetic attempt to divide and conquer New Jersey with his Pro Israel television commercials. He forgot about New Jersey for that moment, and wound up losing in a landslide. I forgot that Christie helped to clear the air in that election.
Booker is not what you see on the surface. He wants to be the big hero of the poor, but he is playing with a shady crew of Israeli Zionists. Why the mainstream media is scared to expose these clowns is the big question that remains.
Great idea for BDS.
See link: link to forbes.com
'New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More By Scanning Your Shopping Cart'
Hophmi, from your link, Jews were dhimmis, that's protected persons and were allowed to practice their faith under Muslim rule. But they had to acknowledge the superiority of the Muslim majority rule, just as the Christians did in that period.
If your going to say 'Jews were treated at best second class citizens, you may want to modify it to say 'Minority religions were treated as second class citizens'.
I agree. I don't think they know who they are. They know how to stick together (sort-of) and act like a Spartan nation as they all sing haktiva. But, their narrow and insular way of life from their surrounding neighbors has caused them a lot of retardation as a real presence in the middle eastern realm and the greater world. Even if some of them get to leave their fortress encampment to visit the US or Europe, they lot of them are trapped in a bubble that is slowly leaking.
Another unnecessary death so Jews can have a 'safe' homeland.
What a shame that Samer's name is not Gilad Shalit. He returned to his
'home' land - that homeland that was built on the backs of Palestinians.
A lot of the Zionist Left at times realize they are hypocrites of the left,
but their arrogance leads them to think they are superior to all.
Their problem is their glory for Zionism exceeds the facts that they are
racist colonial occupiers. It must be so hard for the poor Zionists.
'sloppiness of the new internet journalism '
most of the articles you penned here lacked a certain professional quality to them. I recall thinking, 'what's the point of this one, man'.
i meant as an equalizer against the apartheid state.
I think when Iran gets the bomb, it will benefit world peace. Israelis
have had enough carrots dangled over their heads. Time for big
sticks and someone to defend the Palestinians before they are ethnically
cleansed from their land.
It certainly isn't going to end well. Israelis are lost in the global game.
Zionism needed to be dropped like a bad habit 4 decades ago, but they
are stiff huffing on the noxious fumes.
Israel wants to see itself as a safe haven from the world, but it's clear that it is like a cancer for the west and the arab nations. Jews wanted to escape the oppression and hatred of other nation states, and they've become one of the more offensive examples of a racist state. Day by day, these Jonestown-like fascists are dragging down US prestige.
Whatever happened to free will? Obama neo-toady for AIPAC.
This trip proved it. Even at the start of the student speech, he
made light of the conflict beteen him and Yahoo, saying the
media did this. That was the only part of the speech that seemed
to ring true. Perhaps it's all one sick perverted illusion.
Aren't the Khazar's, early Turkish nomads that converted to Judaism, for political reason, and then migrated into Europe? Suggesting the Khazar past, undermines the right-of-return and since they were never inhabitants of the former land of Israel, they have no right to be there.
But even without the Khazars, no one has the right to reclaim lands where people are already living. It was the greatest Jewish blunder of the past century and all the weapons and fortress mentality of the new Israel is proving that it is a failure. (Clean Break strategy did not work and the chances of the US going to war with Iran is not likely.) Israelis are cracking under the pressure. There only supposed ally is an ocean away and even we grow tired of the false bromides politicians use to 'bind' us indefinitely. A mile wide and a foot deep. Your nation should make every effort to make nice with the Palestinians at this point in history.
But it's cool to Zionists and their lam-o club of squatters. Obama went to the crazy circus tent of Zion and tried to cool the nutty fanatics with overtones of love. This rekindling exhibits that he needed to appease those who keep him in power.
The first thing he does after reelection is to go to apartheid Israel and offer his love to a state and his leader that has been grossly offensive during his first term. In a normal world, this would be strange. But it's Israel, the Rules are Different. They are special! say it! special!! SPECIAL!!!
' Being a Zionist is all about waiting for the next anti-Semitic catastrophe'
-hell yeah it is. I think it's 'the boogeyman in the darkness' that keeps their
wheels turning and it's what motivates tehm. We're better & smarter and
fraternizing with the 'others' will soften you resolve. Fear society, we must,
and remain as mini tribes with a strong network.
Even the liberals are cliquey, as they try so hard to be inclusive with others.
They need their borscht belt or something to latch onto, just like young males
bond over baseball stats.
I listened to the speech two days ago and it was seemingly weak. He prattles on for 40 minutes about how he understands Jews and Israel. Only at the closing did he try and plant a few seeds into the minds of the young Israelis. When will that speech offer some return? Probably in 20+ years.
He needed to travel there and say 'look fools, you're on borrowed property and you have blood on your hands. No historical events will erase sixty years of crimes. And as those neighbors you've wounded over the decades have never been repaid. And the next set of neighbors are getting tired of your continued occupation and general arrogant stench (presence). Make some amends soon, because the US is not going to fight another Middle East war for you emotional concerns, and people are chattering inside the US whether to trust your nation state as an ally coupled with its questionable leadership.'
The worst part of the speech to the Israeli students, was when Barak Obama said the conflict between 'Bibi' and himself were only good stories for Haaretz. That was weak capitulation. Did he forget that he was lectured in the oval office about the Middle East conflict by Bibi a few years ago? How embarrassing that was?
Steve Walt's recent article brought up how Obama is good at selecting a hand picked audience and crafts a beautiful speech full of rhetoric. Touching on some important issues, but then does nothing about it (i.e. Cairo speech).
EMPTY WORDS:
link to walt.foreignpolicy.com
"He told Israelis that the U.S.-Israel relationship was "eternal"."
- Shouldn't the Israeli leader be the one coming here to offer these bromides on US soil? It's clear who kowtows here. (one US 'journalist' wrote that 'Obama needs to heart Israel'...)
Great news. Israel is slowly losing support of the entire american narrative.
These small victories are part of the larger growing conflict that Israelis and
American Jews will have to confront.
Zionism in all it's zeal, is more often unaware of the problems it creates for those
around them. That's why the ziocane analogy is so poignant.
I stopped listening to NPR right around the Iraq invasion. They had so many opportunities to explain details about the causes of the war effort (neocons, Israel, A Clean Break), but it seemed that they wanted to go for yellow liberal journalism at such a crucial time in the nation's history.
No thanks NPR and PBS as well. Public funing in the their titles should be taken with a grain of salt. If PBS can have David Brooks (as the spokesman for the right!) with Ruth Marcus, while Jeffery Brown is the moderator you have to wonder who sets the agenda.
link to pbs.org
Israel needs Turkey in the long game plan. What is an apology worth at this point in time? Erdogan seems has the upper hand in restoring relations and I wonder if it will go back to normal. Somehow, I doubt it.
unrelated:
1963: The year the Israel Lobby Transcended US Law
link to antiwar.com
Libya seems to dovetail nicely with the entire neocon Clean Break strategy. The entire plan is working as proposed, and Iran is the last on the list.
Seriously, you said it... but it's what the Israelis want to hear. And the president knows how to get the audience to like and listen to him. Any AIPAC soiree has taught a politician how to sweet talk to the Zio brigade. They need unending love and compliments to feel special.
This trip is symbolic to show that Zionists have a great sense of Power of the US government. As Obama flew to Cairo four years ago, he now has the chance after
reelection to take the fight to Israel's governmental body that encourages apartheid policies. None of the fight that people thought would occur post-election is happening, as he offers mere platitudes for befriending the Israeli leader.
'As if it was a big secret to anyone that Jews are successful in American society.'
wow. this is childish...
I think it's excessive to call someone a Jewish person, but I see where this stems from. You normally wouldn't say 'There's Jon, he's a Jew', but 'There's Jon, he's Jewish.'
But if you say there's a Muslim person it almost sounds like something a xenophobe would say.
Aww, poor little Joshie. Perhaps his friends at Mich. Hillel can lick his wounds.
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So sick of these brats. Israel creates a entire new sets of spoiled american children, whining about nothing. They are like little parrots that haven't been fed.
Focus on the country you live in and how you can improve it. Stop the sniveling about pet projects. Loyalty earns respect. It's a class of whiners, that are often encouraged by their parents, shuls and inward-looking communities.
Maddow's not much better than Shultz. Most of the hosts of this network really only serve to perpetuate the never-ending political campaign. They are enamored by their own voices and thoughts (i.e. chris matthews) than saying anything important. I think Hayes seems to bring something new.
But I would be wary of success on MSNBC. Phil Donahue in 2002 had the highest ratings of any show on the network, but it was cancelled because of his vociferous opposition to the US Iraq Invasion.
And check this about Chris Matthews:
'Matthews was a big proponent of the Iraq invasion and he cultivated a good relationship with MSNBC's management before Donahue came to the network. He played a crucial role in procuring the firing of Donahue and "saw himself as MSNBC's biggest star, and he was upset that the network was pumping significant resources into Donahue's show." '
'a protégé of Rachel Maddow' the article says. Hayes is more tactful on his Saturday morning show getting out of the spotlight and allowing the issue to be discussed with a seemingly better panel, where Maddow tends to linger within it and invites the tired old guests. I prefer Hayes approach and no doubt he will be a better host than Ed Shultz or Maddow.
Obama needs to perform his best MLK shtick about restoring the spirit of people that have been placed in interment camps, while explaining how to get them out of these camps and back on their feet again without the constant threat of the repressive occupier.
He could do that. Wasn't his Cairo speech only four years ago? What does he have to lose? Now's the big chance after his final US reelection. He shows the world that he is not afraid of the Zionist meddlers aiming to ethnically cleanse all of Jerusalem.
Israel is perceived globally as a pariah, not Palestinians. Only the Congress and the media are still sniffing the ziocane fumes. Truth to Power will resonate across the globe - even if his party of suck-up democrats will cry foul.
'We are looking for a man of vision and who is willing to place the future of the Palestinians people together as partners with Israel...'
Seriously - that was funny... Who's the WE in we are looking? You and your fellows Israelites searching anywhere for one partner of peace.
The Rise of Schumer to head the Senate Democrats really makes me ill.I'm sure he laid out a list of imperatives for Hagel regardless of his desire for that bigger seat.
Anyone know why he photo-bombed the inauguration? Was that symbolic and who was meant to see this blatant display of excess?
-From the outside, one needs to accept that there is a way to handle everything domestic and foreign in the Congress (and the media).
>But when Israel is the focus, or an issue that relates to Israel is the focus, the Congress (and the media) have a completely different subset of rules that modify the normal logic. It leaves the masses baffled.
And I think they who do the handywork, realize that punishment and defeat are in store if they speak publicly against the massive hypocrisy of it all.
It feels like a hot-air balloon floating above us that is covered in crap. We all know it's there, and want to believe it is something to marvel at, but there is too much shit that it's covered in to see any resemblance of what the essence was.
I think you read it wrong, bilal. I am saying that David Brooks would make this claim that Jewish orthodox are so unique with marriage, but then turn it around and cast Muslim fundamentalism as backwards.
Who said anything about motivations of liberals, and who is Jack & Leah?
Brooks is gooey-eyed and a wimp in general. PBS has him and Ruth Marcus to talk about US Politics every week. No bias there...
The new vision of Jewish Left and Right.
Regarding marriage, a lot of the orthodox women in Brooklyn have arranged marriages for them, and they more often don't really have a close relationship with their future husband prior to their union.
If the tables were turned and he were talking about Muslims it would be 'forced marriages' against the will of the woman's rights. Sharia law, etc. But hey, if it's kosher it's cool, man.
freaking hypocrites... I cant stand these spineless poseurs...
I always questioned whether American Christians (say leaders like Pat Robertson) feel that having the 'new' Ashkenazi Israelis control all the lands (i.e. Jerusalem & Bethlehem), would it make these destinations more accessible for them to visit? Is there some agreement between between their alliance, where the new Jew is a caretaker and Bethlehem will be a nice tourist spot in 30 years for Christians.
'as described in the Book of Esther, in the time of the Purim story, "And the tables were turned, so that the Jews had the upper hand over their enemies." (Esther 9:1) That is to say, the situation was completely reversed. Throughout the history of the Diaspora, the gentiles restrained Jews and controlled their fate. In this instance, Heaven intervened and gave the Jewish people the opportunity to escape the threat of annihilation.'
Jon, The costumes celebrate a victory for Jews over the Persians?
Sick kids usual have sick parents. Dov Hikund may like pair this though...
Why do people dress up on Purim like its Halloween?
The Israeli Gov't will likely spring some new illegal housing plan when Obama gets on Air Force One. similar to when Biden was made to look like a fool a few years back.
That Obama lecture in the Oval Office really angered a lot of people that normally are not critics of Israel. And all the Congress could do was give Yahoo multiple standing ovations when he came to see them. There's a problem with Israel, but it's corrupted the government poltical establishment. So much that this disrespect of the president went without consequence. Did his own party even say anything against this event?
Israeli Supreme Court blocked his extradition to the US, citing a 1978 law banning the extradition of Israeli citizens. 'This resulted in a severe strain in U.S.-Israeli relations and outrage from the Latino-American community.'
'There was also concern in Israel over the ruling, including the fear that the country might become a haven for Jewish criminals.'
'Sheinbein was then indicted in Israel. He was charged for murder with intent to kill: the equivalent of first-degree murder in the United States.'
'Sheinbein's trial took place in the Tel Aviv District Court. After Sheinbein accepted a plea bargain with prosecutors, the three-judge panel sentenced him to 24 years in prison, with eligibility for parole after 16 years.'
'Sheinbein is currently serving his sentence at Ayalon Prison, an infamous maximum-security prison in Ramla.
Parents:
Sheinbein's parents subsequently moved to Israel to be closer to him. They live in Tel Aviv, where his father works as a patent law consultant.
For assisting his son in escaping the United States, Sol Sheinbein was disbarred as a Maryland patent lawyer, and he is wanted on an arrest warrant for hindering or obstructing a police investigation, but could not be extradited due to it being a misdemeanor.'
'behave like decent human beings'
They tell us they're Extra-Ordinary Human Beings. Why should they have to play on a human level of decency?
And don't forget the Holocaust. They have to restore all those that were lost, no matter what the cost - many people here will tell you this.
he's freaking hero in Israel. They love him. He's a hero that help build Zion
and the criminal global network lattice.
His wife Ester is waiting for him in Israel.
Barney Frank:
"In August 2011 Barney Frank sought permission from Congress to discuss the incarceration of Jonathan Pollard and called on Barack Obama to "answer the many calls for Pollard's immediate release". According to activists promoting the release of Pollard, Frank said Pollard has paid a price much higher than anyone else that spied on a friend of the United States and more than many who spied for its enemies."
Kristen is a robot senator from NY. Jewish power in NY is unreal.
Whomever is senator they will have to treat Israel like the golden
child.
Look at Hillary's campaign, saying she would wipe Iran off the map.
A little too much ziocane pumping around here.
He provided Israel, Pakistan, south Africa, and Russia with classified material. I had read that he gave the soviets material in exchange for Russian Jews to Israel.
link to voices.washingtonpost.com
Makes one quite angry. They want a different set of rules for them.
An odd sort of caste system, or royalty, masquerading as a victim.
Most of the Israeli first crowd isn't that stupid, but their Israeli cousins
want his release.
Even Hophmi is giving mealy mouthed replies about Pollard.
It would probably be better if he stay in prison until his end.
It would be a PR problem for Zionists. Where would he go? Stay
in the US or relocate to Israel? Israel would be naming streets in his honour. A traitor to the US is a hero in Israel? Is that more of the shared values?
And no US President is going to want to appear 'soft' on releasing a
traitor.
Obama needs to explain to these whackos, that if he were ever to consider releasing a convicted traitor of the US, Israel would have to stop building settlements and return to the 1967 lines without preconditions.
'Compare Israel to Quebec '
don't even try it, there's no equivalence here.
Quebec does not have a right of return while working
to expel other canucks from their families dwellings.
please...
great point. This could all be settled by some engaging debate at Harvard. But there is so much endowment coming from Zionist pockets, it would likely not happen in any significant measure.
They are complete fascists in their smear campaigns against anyone who questions the Jewish state and all the corrupt support that helps to construct it. But as the ADL is baited more and more by groups, they will start to lose their appeal. Watching Foxman in Defamation (if you has the patience to observe these hucksters) makes the audience realize what a slimy game the ADL is running, they sniff for antisemitism in any crack they can find. The whole 'we are victims' is resoundingly realized at the end of the film. They loooooooooove to kvetch until no tomorrow.
And morally disgraceful? They need to look no further than their own operation to see immorality. I can't believe these crooked wankers get away with this crap.
Typical Shabbos-goy politcal-hack doing the laundry for Israel's criminal misdeeds.
The man's proven again and again that he is a goofball with his wooden grin and
folksy politicking.I remember when he ran for president and kept using the story from childhood -his parents would say get up, get up and fight, Irish Joe.
Where was the fight when he went to Tel Aviv and Netanyahu sprung the new
housing developments on his turkey-ass? He seems to believe that he is one of
the fighting liberals, but I don't really see it when it comes to his bootlicking
exercises with Netanyahu and AIPAC.
also:
The Stuxnet computer virus believed to have been developed by the United States or Israel to contain threats from Iran dates back at least to 2007, researchers said Wednesday. Researchers at the leading security company Symantec say they've discovered an early version of Stuxnet, what they call a "missing link," that was active as early as 2005.
"The new finding ... resolves a number of long-standing mysteries around a part of the attack code that appeared in the 2009 and 2010 variants of Stuxnet, but was incomplete in those variants and had been disabled by the attackers," said Kim Zetter of the Wired.com website that specializes in defense and security affairs.
link to upi.com
Anti-semetic is a red herring - a smoke screen that casts a dart into the chest of the accuser, as they miss the core complaint of Israel and it land theft.
I think some get off on playing this card. It's power without having to fight, hiding behind a shield of European history, yet we're in the 21st century.
lol, AIPAC probably wrote the damn thing, and he (like any other political hack)
said where and when. Bark like a dog, Ben... and get your cookie.
'Affleck is an empty shell. That’s probably why he can’t act on screen. His acting is rigid, lacking in emotion and expression. '
His speech even felt empty and contrived when accepting his award into the big leagues of Hollywood. I agree there's not much content behind the character. Watch the segment on Face the Nation with Bob Sheiffer and Affleck. It's as if they are preening him for a future political seat.
The Hollywood actors. When are we going to see the great pair 'brangelina' take a tour of the Gaza strip? This weakness of character, seen in many politicians as well, makes you realize the power of Zionism is like a secret cult that exists within the American realm. Remember when Bono tried to say something about Palestine at the Obama inauguration and cloaked it in between guitar riffs? Everyone is scared of the consequences that the powerful will turn of the money spigot and damage their careers.
Someone said the other day how John Mearsheimer has not been asked to pen any pieces for the NYTimes, since 'The Israeli Lobby' . Prior he was asked nine of more times.
Attempts have been made to cast it as antisemetic, but even Richard Pipes believes that it 'absolves Solzhenitsyn from the taint of antisemitism'. I think the book will eventually get published through back channels but will never be debated in great measure in the US.
The conflict of this story seems reminiscent of the Prussian conflict and power hierarchy. I would imagine the ADL and the noted historians will do their best to suppress any publication that sheds a light on the history of that period.
correction: 'At least the Israeli was not shooting the Palestinian'
No need to sugar-coat that that there may be some sort of equivalence
between the 2 sides. Yes, it's an obvious error you made.
All the F-16's the US supplies to this nation
and the reality of what were protecting
is depicted by this miserable bible-thumper
making his case for occupation. What a
f'ing waste.
This is the Jewish Manifest Destiny in action,
underwritten by America's Zionist class.
Makes you proud to be part of it...
Hoyer was even more craven in the recent AIPAC soirees.
link to thehill.com
'Pushing back against President Obama, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) suggested Sunday that Israel should not be required to shrink its borders as a precondition of peace talks with the Palestinians.
"Israel's borders must be defensible and must reflect the reality on the ground," Hoyer said to a standing ovation at the annual policy conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). '
Lighten up Abe. Lorne (Michaels) Lipowitz was born in Israel. Funny how he can't even get an Israeli-born to comply with his requests. Are American Jews one day going to look at Abe Foxman and see him as a kook - living in another dimension from current day?
Sort of like Ed Koch was.
I hope the last of them stop their defense of Israeli war crimes that continue to hurt the Palestinians and undermine the US military hypocrasy that causes the entrie nation to look like global slobs.
The word “tops” ...
If your general audience doesn't know you're attempting to be satirical, it's best to avoid humor or satire when talking about dead people in general. Leaves a bad taste in general.
i.e. ' Those Germans only killed only 6 million Jews, and some other slavs as well'
(not funny)
'Israel has killed only, say, fifty thousand innocent Palestinians, Lebanese, and Egyptians-- tops.' German population was around 80 million in 1940 and Israel is about 7 million today. If we were comparing equal numbers, say Israel were 80 million, they would have killed closer to 600,000. But to be so blase with 50 thousand deaths though...
But those deaths are somehow less offensive, tell us why?
The problem with Israel is, the killing machine is on a silent simmer. It's been going on for decades and people know what the charade is about.
That's what I was thinking about - seeing a Israeli soldier antagonize and abuse the Palestinians in their concentrated encampments.
What was the point of this article?.. that Israelis will never be as bad as Nazi Germany. Israel's saga isn't yet complete.