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Rosenberg gets backup from Plitnick on ‘Israel Firster’

Another small but important moment. Mitchell Plitnick at Souciant applauds MJ Rosenberg’s reembrace of the term Israel Firster:

I’m glad MJ is back to using that term. He and I don’t entirely agree on the role the Israel Lobby plays in policy formation — I see it as extremely powerful, but less absolutely powerful than Rosenberg does — but his prominent role in calling out their actions is indispensible.

But in one small way, I think MJ sells the Israel Firsters short. He writes: “The way I see it, both my country, America, and a country I deeply care about, Israel, and the Jewish people are all being placed at risk by a small bunch of multi-millionaires and billionaires whose only interests are self-aggrandizement, hobnobbing with those in power, and crushing anyone who gets in their way.”

In my view, there are two groups of Israel Firsters, and MJ here describes only one of them. He discusses the ones who do care about Israel, put it before all else, and are misguidedly advocating policies that they think support Israel while they actually make it less secure and put its future at risk.

The second stratum is really the core of forces that are pushing so successfully for policies that not only interfere with US interests and deepen the misery of the Palestinians, but also harm the Israeli people. And they don’t care about any of that.

That group, which also advocates for what they describe as “Israeli security” is much more closely associated with the Israeli right. However, their ambitions go well beyond that.

This group is defined by a worldview in which Israel is just a means to an end, not an end in itself. Leading neoconservatives are certainly part of it, as are some of the farthest right wing financiers of Super PACs and of Israel’s settlements.

There is also the apocalyptic Christian component of that group, the ones who see the Book of Revelations playing out in the Middle East and who, despite their recent, cynical turn toward an odd brand of philo-Semitism, do not wish to see peace in any form in the region. It is conflict that they want.

What these groups have in common is that they push for policies that do not enhance either American or Israeli security but which, in their view, advance a much broader vision of the world they intend to create. They’re distinct from most Israel Firsters because they know what they are doing….

Most of MJ’s Israel First crowd truly puts Israel first. But just as they are unrepresentative of both American Jews and Americans at large (Rosenberg puts the figure at 4% among Jews) while being enormously influential and being mistakenly seen as representative, so too do these Israel Users exercise a massively disproportionate influence over policy while representing very few people’s actual views.

Where I differ from Plitnick is that I see these neocon rightwingers as being largely motivated by love of Israel and fear for its security. When Bill Kristol says that he cannot criticize Israel because he doesn’t live there on the front line, I believe he is being utterly sincere. When my friend in Jerusalem tells me that Jews in Israel are “aliyah” — higher — while we in the Diaspora are “yoredim,” lower, I believe she is also reflecting a deep truth about Jewish life. We are to assist the better Jews. Dershowitz said something like this in Chutzpah: “My generaton of Jews was too young to fight against Nazism or for Israeli independence, too American to make aliyah (emigrate to Israel), too comfortable to put our bodies on the line for anything Jewish. Instead, we observed, contributed… We became part of what is perhaps the most effective lobbying and fund-raising effort in the history of democracy.” We have to do this because they are taking the spears.

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I am with Rosenberg on this. Even the tiniest countries have lobbies in the US but the Israel Lobby is so powerful that it dictates much of the agenda of both the White House and the Congress to the point where it openly operates as the most important Fifth Column in US history. I would argue that not money but media is the lever by which that otherwise ordinary lobby transformed itself.

“When Bill Kristol says that he cannot criticize Israel because he doesn’t live there on the front line, I believe he is being utterly sincere.

You actually believe Kristol? This is hard to take. Kristol is an elitist, racist socio path. This is an individual ready to lie about what ever serves the neo cons agenda. Ready to send American lives to Iraq based on a “pack of lies” Ready and more than willing to lie about Iran. I don’t believe anything this socio path says.

On a softer note this is the man who came up with “kill the bill” When Hillary Clinton was pushing for an affordable health care plan in the 90’s. Believe him…really pathetic Phil

RE: “When Bill Kristol says that he cannot criticize Israel because he doesn’t live there on the front line, I believe he is being utterly sincere.” ~ Weiss

MY COMMENT: So you do not think that Bill Kristol is the type of overtly political person who might say that he cannot criticize Israel so as to curry favor with “the powers that be” (or at least avoid getting the “Goldstone Treatment”)?
And you do not think that Bill Kristol is the type of reasonably normal human being (sociopaths/psychopaths excluded) who might say that he cannot criticize Israel in order to rationalize never faulting Israel no matter what it does (thereby keeping cognitive dissonance at bay)?

SEE: “COGNITIVE DISSONANCE & DEFENSE MECHANISMS”https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2011/09/the-privileged-divide-non-jews-want-to-talk-the-issue-jews-dont.html#comment-365465

(excerpts) Subconscious Mind – A List of Defense Mechanisms
Here we explore a list of defense mechanisms employed by the subconscious mind to ward off anxiety and protect the conscious mind from emotional pain. . .
. . . Another term for such internal conflicts is Cognitive Dissonance — Two cognition’s (elements of knowledge)… usually one conscious and the other subconscious… are in direct conflict with each other.
The two opposing cognition’s are located on neural networks in the brain. They create anxiety that steadily intensifies until the subconscious mind employs a solution from its list of defense mechanisms. . .

List of Defense Mechanisms
Rationalization is the cognitive reframing of one’s perceptions to protect the ego in the face of changing realities. . .

“We have to do this because they are taking the spears.”

There is a very ugly corollary to that: “they have to stay there and take the spears _for us_.”

And that is the hideous truth of the relations of U.S. and Israel Jews: US Jews consider it to be the natural order of things that the Israeli Jews to be the sacrificial lamb, prepared to die for their backup homeland – whereas Israeli Jews expect all U.S. to pony up the infinite stream of dollars and engage in what is basically treason to the U.S.

That’s kind of like a culture-wide chickenhawkitude from the U.S. and a culture-wide dual loyalty libel against all Jews in the world from Israel.