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Last night’s farce: Any intelligent unbiased person watching this would ask, what’s with the US and Israel?

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Last night’s debate was a farce of pandering to Israel. Apparently even Chris Matthews complained about the pandering a number of times last night. Good for you, Matthews! Liberal Zionists are upset because they know this is death to the two-state solution. J Street: “…we are disappointed that neither candidate mentioned the most pressing challenge to Israel’s survival as a Jewish and democratic homeland: the lack of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

My friend Scott Roth took the debate hard, and angry. Here are some particularly piquant tweets I picked up off his feed. They read backwards in time, starting this morning: 

[This morning]

Scott Roth: BHO knows better than to have made the “wipe off the map” remark last night.

Nima Shirazi Nima Shirazi ‏@WideAsleepNima Yeah, but Boca was craving it like prune juice.

Scott Roth ‏@scottroth76 @WideAsleepNima perhaps, but I don’t care. And if true then he’s part of the problem.

@WideAsleepNima I was being facetious. It was unconscionable.

@scottroth76: sorry, I’m in a rotten mood b/c of last night.

[Last night]

Scott Roth retweet: @TheDersh: Obama is Betty. Romney is Veronica. Israel is Archie. And I can sleep soundly knowing apartheid & colonialism are safe.

Scott Roth: Thanks for a great job, Schieffer. You didn’t seem a day over 101.

Scott Roth: Obama wants China to play by the same rules as everyone else. What about Israel?

Scott Roth ‏: Romney said Palestinians! Cause he really cares about them.

Scott Roth: This Romney crap is what happens when 3rd rate minds like Dan Senor are your advisor(s).

Scott Roth: This is the choice we have Americans. Proud?

Retweeted by Scott Roth: ‏@scottroth76 Um hm. Look at what you’ve helped create.“@JeffreyGoldberg: Oh my God, this is becoming like a speech I give at UJA-Federation meetings.”

Scott Roth: This has become a joke.

Scott Roth: I’m vomiting now.

Scott Roth: 10 grand says this idea of indicting Ahmadinejad came from Dan Senor.

Scott Roth: Any intelligent unbiased person watching this debate would ask themselves what’s with the US and Israel?

Scott Roth: How about Israeli apartheid, Romney, you dumb shit.

Scott Roth: Oh, so now we’re going to hang people for genocide without genocide. Virtual genocide.

Scott Roth: If after watching this debate you are not convinced that Israel is a serious problem for this country, then you’re deluded.

Scott Roth: Fuck I was wrong. Obama said the map phrase.

Scott Roth: Iran and its people are suffering, because that’s what Israel wants.- Obama.

Scott Roth: With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?

Scott Roth: Obama should just say, “I’m a bigger asshole than you want to be.”

Scott Roth: This is farcical. Nothing else to say. America must lead, by being the greatest purveyor of war.

Retweet Alex Kane: @alexbkane So now US politicians trashing Mubarak is the standard?

Retweet @TheDersh: Obama said Israel twice before Romney says it once, which means, basically, that Romney is like Hamas and Hitler rolled into one.

Scott Roth: Moderation in the Arab Spring, i.e., malleable people we can control like l’ancien regime. -Romney

Retweet Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper president of Lynn U. says it’s pronounced boca ra-TONE Scott Roth ‏@scottroth76 @jaketapper that’s how they say it there. My grandparents lived there for 20 years, didn’t yours too?

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  1. Citizen
    October 23, 2012, 2:48 pm

    Not to worry, Dick and Jane won’t get that the USA and Israel are not really the same, and the USA should look after its best interests, not Israel’s. I sure hope a military draft comes along to wake that couple up. So, vote for Mitt.

    • American
      October 23, 2012, 10:28 pm

      Sign this petition to support the Churches letter on Israel..please

      then tweet it if you twitter and facebook it.

      End the Occupation [ ]

      *Tuesday, October 23, 2012*

      Take Action: Support Church Leaders’ Call to Investigate Israel’s Violations of U.S. Law

      Earlier this month, *15 prominent church leaders* sent Members of Congress an *historic letter [ ]* in which they decried “widespread Israeli human rights violations committed against Palestinians.”

      The church leaders wrote that “unconditional U.S. military assistance to Israel has contributed to this deterioration, sustaining the conflict and undermining the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians.”

      We fully support their call for “an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act” and for the “withholding of military aid for non-compliance” with these laws.

      This letter is huge*-our demand for accountability for Israel’s misuse of U.S. weapons is now going mainstream!

      *Whether or not you identify with one of the denominations whose leaders signed the letter, please take a moment right now to thank the church leaders for their important letter to Congress.* [ ]

      We are proud to launch this petition in coordination with many faith-based member groups of the US Campaign and our friends at Kairos USA. *Help us send a strong signal to these courageous church leaders that we support them in their efforts [ ]*.

      Also, please post this petition to your *Facebook [ ]* page and *Tweet [ ]* it!

      Pro-Israel organizations issued *harsh denunciations* against the church leaders who signed the letter and are trying to pressure them to rescind it by canceling an interfaith dialogue.

      We can’t let this “*interfaith bullying*” succeed in stifling conversation about holding Israel accountable for misusing U.S. weapons to commit human rights abuses of Palestinians. *Let’s show these church leaders that there are thousands of people from all backgrounds who support them! [ ]*

      Try as they might, however, to tamp down efforts to question the moral and financial implications of providing *$30 billion of taxpayer-funded weapons to Israel* from 2009 to 2018, pro-Israel organizations are losing the battle as activists are mounting successful public awareness campaigns to challenge U.S. complicity in Israel’s apartheid policies toward Palestinians.

      Despite months of efforts by local pro-Israel organizations in Chapel Hill, NC to cajole the city into censoring a year-long ad campaign paid for by the *Church of Reconciliation* as part of our national “*Be On Our Side-End U.S. Military Aid to Israel [ ]*” ad campaign, these ads are still running on 98 buses and generating a huge amount of conversation. Thanks to the *ACLU of North Carolina* for defending our right to freedom of speech in this *great letter [ ]* they sent the city council.

      Also, recently, *Louisville Students for Justice in Palestine* put up this eye-catching billboard in Louisville, KY calling for an end to U.S. aid to Israel.

      And, the *Palestine Education Network* placed these yard signs all over New Hampshire during the election season after being censored from advertising a similar message in the Manchester airport and in theater playbills.

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  2. Annie Robbins
    October 23, 2012, 4:51 pm

    this is hysterical. i definitely have to follow roth now. virtual genocide…

  3. seafoid
    October 23, 2012, 5:24 pm

    This is the choice we have Americans.

    When did you last have a choice? Was it during the 1950s? Was 1976 different?

  4. MRW
    October 23, 2012, 5:35 pm

    Roth, my kinda guy. Hope his moods stay rotten if that’s what it takes.

  5. American
    October 23, 2012, 6:14 pm

    ”Scott Roth: This has become a joke.

    Scott Roth: I’m vomiting now.”

    My sentiments exactly.

  6. Citizen
    October 23, 2012, 6:39 pm

    Nobody sane can reach the Christian Zionists who believe America and Israel are a divine couple with the same mission, escaping religious persecution and clearing the land for themselves and God in the face of savage natives who are too backward to be anything but pests.

  7. Donald
    October 23, 2012, 9:14 pm

    On the subject of flipflops one of the best examples is how Romney privately abandoned the Palestinian cause with his rich donors, but publicly claims he favors a 2SS. But Obama didn’t say anything, or if he did I missed it.

  8. DICKERSON3870
    October 23, 2012, 10:05 pm

    RE: “Nima Shirazi Nima Shirazi ‏@WideAsleepNima Yeah, but Boca was craving it like prune juice.”

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  9. DICKERSON3870
    October 23, 2012, 10:19 pm

    RE: “Scott Roth: Any intelligent unbiased person watching this debate would ask themselves what’s with the US and Israel?

    LONG STORY SHORT [as Nancy Grace loves to say]:
    We (the U.S. and Israel) are “crippled inside”! ! !

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    • DICKERSON3870
      October 23, 2012, 10:27 pm

      P.S. RE: “LONG STORY SHORT [as Nancy Grace loves to say]:
      We (the U.S. and Israel) are ‘crippled inside’! ! !”
      – me (above)

      ♦ SEE: “How the Power of Myth Keeps Us Mired in War”, by Ira Chernus,, 01/20/11

      [EXCERPT] . . . White Americans, going back to early colonial times, generally assigned the role of ‘bad guys’ to ‘savages’ lurking in the wilderness beyond the borders of our civilized land. Whether they were redskins, commies, terrorists, or the Taliban, the plot has always remained the same.
      Call it the myth of national security — or, more accurately, national insecurity, since it always tells us who and what to fear.
      It’s been a mighty (and mighty effective) myth. . .

      SOURCE –

      ♦ AND SEE: “Israel’s Defense Chief OK’s Hundreds of Israeli Deaths”, By Ira Chernus,, 11/11/11

      [EXCERPT] . . . An essential motive of Zionism from its beginning was a fierce desire to end the centuries of Jewish weakness, to show the world that Jews would no longer be pushed around, that they’d fight back and prove themselves tougher than their enemies. There was more to Zionism than that. But the “pride through strength” piece came to dominate the whole project. Hence the massive Israeli military machine with its nuclear arsenal.
      But you can’t prove that you’re stronger than your enemies unless you’ve also got enemies — or at least believe you’ve got enemies — to fight against. So there has to be a myth of Israel’s insecurity, fueled by an image of vicious anti-semites lurking somewhere out there, for Zionism to work. Since the 1979 Iranian revolution, Iran has gradually risen to the top of Israel oh-so-necessary enemies list. Iranophobia is rampant in Israel, as one Israeli scholar writes, because “Israel needs an existential threat.”
      Anyone who has grown up in Israel, or in the U.S. Jewish community (as I did), and paid attention knows all this. . .


      ♦ P.P.S. ALSO SEE – “Iranophobia: The Panic of the Hegemons”, by Ira Chernus, Tikkun Magazine, November/December 2010
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  10. seafoid
    October 24, 2012, 3:47 am

    But it seems that the diagnosis for this paradox of America – whose administration usually goes after countries that violate human rights, and which opposes the occupation – is not to be found in the realm of psychology or the study of stupidity. Its basis is to be found in a statement attributed, without any proof, to President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who said of the Nicaraguan tyrant Anastasio Somoza: “He may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.”
    This statement has become a permanent foundation of American foreign policy, Republican and Democratic, to the point where it has blinded decision-makers, even when revolutions start in a region, beginning with the Islamic revolution in Iran during which the Shah was deposed, and including the revolutions of the Arab Spring, in which additional “sons of bitches” who served as anchors for U.S. standing in the region were deposed. The “friend” Hosni Mubarak is gone, the Tunisian “partner” Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali fled, the Yemenite “collaborator” Ali Abdullah Saleh, who allowed freedom of military action against Al-Qaida, is gone, and the “repentant” Muammar Gadhafi was murdered. They all answered to the definition “our son of a bitch.”
    Now Israel joins the ranks of the friends who must not be abandoned. Not because it is essential to the existence of the United States, and certainly not because it is useful to Washington’s policy in the region, but because the principle of “non-abandonment” has become the focus of political discourse between the two candidates.
    This is a very dangerous principle for Israel. It is good for election season and as a sound bite in a televised debate. But it is not only unstable, it also places Israel on the same footing as other countries that once were not to be abandoned. Instead of maintaining a relationship with the American people, and in turn with the various administrations, based on shared values, Israel is becoming tactical albatross. Support for Israel is intended first and foremost as a means of garnering the Jewish vote and financial contributions for the candidate, and only thereafter to show “responsibility” to friends as part of a foreign policy that can change at any moment.

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