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Yesterday Secretary of State John Kerry spoke to the American Jewish Committee and warned the audience that the two-state solution is about to expire so they had better do something. Because if they don’t, “much worse” is on the horizon. And what is “much worse?” The “possibility of a civil rights movement that grows in the West Bank.”

Imagine that– a civil rights movement, says Kerry, is against Israel’s “interests” and also American “interests” in the Middle East.

It was a fascinating speech, directly echoing Obama’s speech in Jerusalem in March but with a dark warning.

The underlying message was: I am Jewish, I love Israel, we are headed toward a one-state solution which is going to be a mess, and you the lobby are the most powerful players in this matter — “no one has a stronger voice in this than the American Jewish community.”

And you the lobby are destroying America’s image in the world. You are putting us all at risk. “[The conflict] affects all of the recruitment and all of the arguments and radicalism that we face.” By implication: the conflict impelled the Tsarnaev brothers to the Boston Marathon. This seemed to me the strongest underlying message in the speech, a warning that Kerry repeated while claiming not to believe it.

Let me review those messages. 

First, Kerry being Jewish. [No he’s not actually Jewish; but this was the subtext] In 2004 Kerry discovered that his grandfather was born Jewish and he had relatives who died in the Holocaust. Kerry bragged on these facts and the fact that his brother converted to Judaism:

And each time that I go, the deep personal connection that I feel with the state and the people of Israel is only strengthened. These are actually bonds that reach back into my own family tree, including relatives I never met and never knew about until the last decade, relatives who perished in the Holocaust, relatives I thought about in new and personal ways on Yom HaShoah when I laid a wreath on behalf of the United States at Yad Vashem.

As Obama did, Kerry fawned over Israel. They believe that the only way Israelis will do something is if you love them to death. He said Israel had made “the desert bloom.” And he said he had gone out to Israel over and over since 1986, when he climbed Masada and screamed, Am Yisrael Chai, the people of Israel live! As disgraceful as Obama’s pandering in Jerusalem:

“And we actually heard our voices bouncing off the cavern on the other side of the mountains, and they came back to us, and it was really as if, eerily, it was the voices of those who had fought coming back to us, the voices of past generations.”

This was also about the lobby. In 1986, Kerry was already 43 years old. He was a newly-minted Senator doing a political necessity, finally getting his sorry hinder to Israel. When Kerry ran for president, Louis Susman was his national finance chair. The former ambassador to Britain also bankrolled Obama, and is a leader in the Jewish community.

Kerry reminded the audience of their power:

So no one has a stronger voice in this than the American Jewish community. You can play a critical part in ensuring Israel’s long-term security. And as President Obama said in Jerusalem, leaders will take bold steps only if their people push them to. You can help shape the future of this process. And in the end, you can help Israel direct its destiny and be masters of its own fate…

Now here is the big mainstream news of the speech, Kerry saying that the two state solution is almost done, and here comes one state:

what happens in the coming days will actually dictate what happens in the coming decades. We’re running out of time. We’re running out of possibilities. And let’s be clear: If we do not succeed now – and I know I’m raising those stakes – but if we do not succeed now, we may not get another chance…

You and I both know that the place where all of this happens best is in a strong, secure Israel that lives peacefully alongside a viable Palestinian state. I will tell you here today, examine every possibility, all of the parameters of this conflict, this frozen conflict, and I will tell you a realistic one-state solution simply does not exist for either side.

He again cited the one state outcome later:

So I want to ask you this: Whenever you think about this challenge and how hard it is, think about what will happen if it doesn’t work. We will find ourselves in a negative spiral of responses and counter-responses that could literally slam the door on a two-state solution, having already agreed, I think, that there isn’t a one-state one. And the insidious campaign to de-legitimize Israel will only gain steam. Israel will be left to choose between being a Jewish state or a democratic state…

As Obama did in Jerusalem, Kerry dipped ever so briefly but sincerely into the Palestinian narrative, to remind his Jewish listeners, the only ones who seem to matter, of the oppression the world sees:

The Palestinian children that I’ve seen – I went into Gaza a number of years ago, five years ago, and the kids I saw playing in the rubble there, they should be able to grow up with playgrounds that aren’t made of the debris of bombed-out buildings. Their parents deserve to be able to live their daily lives the way people everywhere else in the world do and the way parents aspire to hopes for their children do. And these families’ lives should not be determined by terrorists in their midst.

Now I am coming to that central warning/theme, Israeli intransigence hurting the U.S.

First he suggested that Israel’s actions are empowering “extremists” across the region. Of course Kerry didn’t really mean that, he said. But he did mean it. Follow him on his windsurfer:

We know that this conflict, my friends, is not the cause of problems in the Middle East. Indeed, it has often been used as a convenient excuse for autocrats who didn’t want their own populations to recognize and wrestle with the inadequacies of their own governance. An excuse.

But make no mistake: Resolving this conflict for both sides can have far-reaching benefits that will be in everybody’s interest. And the reverse is also true: Not resolving this will result in serious consequences for both….

And just in case you missed the message, he came back to it later. Saying what every diplomat says, what Hillary Clinton said, that this is the only issue people talk about around the world. And he said it is radicalizing people around the world:

everywhere I go – literally, China, Japan – foreign ministers, presidents raise this issue. Young people ask me about this conflict and what they can do to help end it. In the last couple of weeks I had visits here from the Foreign Minister of Brazil and the Foreign Minister of New Zealand, and the first thing out of their mouth was, “How can we help on the Middle East peace process?” Now, I asked them, “Where’s that coming from? You’re over in New Zealand and this is the first thing on your mind?” They said yes because it affects all of the recruitment and all of the arguments and radicalism that we face, and they see the prospects and possibilities. Everyone is invested in a resolution and everyone has a role to play.

Oh, I forgot his warning about a civil rights movement. It comes in a long warning to the lobby about what Israeli complacency about the conflict is precipitating.

What will happen if the Palestinian economy implodes, if the Palestinian Security Forces dissolve, if the Palestinian Authority fails? Surely something much worse for Israel’s interests and for America’s and for the region. In fact, the failure of the moderate Palestinian leadership could very well invite the rise of the very thing that we want to avoid: the same extremism in the West Bank that we have seen in Gaza or from southern Lebanon.

So before anyone gives up on this hope, we have to ask whether we are prepared to live with permanent conflict, with the possibility of widespread civil disobedience, with the possibility of a civil rights movement that grows in the West Bank, with the possibility of another intifada always looming around the corner. If the parties don’t agree to come back to the table, the Palestinians have already said that they will go to the UN and seek to join more UN organizations, where, despite the best efforts of the United States, they will probably get more votes in their favor than they got last time. And last time, we only got nine votes against. And the Palestinians have also threatened to take their case to the International Criminal Court.

Notice the warning about the International Criminal Court. Kerry knows, the delegitimizers are winning, for a reason. He knows where this is headed. Under the Jewish geography, it’s a very dark speech.

P.S. From the Washington Post:

Although Kerry said peace will require compromises, he did not list anything specific he wants Israel to do and never mentioned settlements or the Palestinian claim to a right of return to land that is now Israel.

It’s not a claim: it’s a right, under international law. It has been destroyed/suppressed by Israel working with the U.S. (since the U.S. abandoned the right of return, in ’94, under Clinton), but it’s still a right.

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  1. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    June 4, 2013, 11:24 am

    Didnt Netanyahu once said that ‘America Is A Thing You Can Move Very Easily’? Yes he did and this is a proof of it.

    Let also remember that Kerry is a personal friend of Netanyahu. US should say its 100% Israel and biased towards them, bc this is getting ridiculous for american standing in the world how they appease Israel no matter what.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      June 5, 2013, 7:47 am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPOIS5taqA8

      Her hair is dyed IDF gold
      Her lips sweet surprise
      Her personality is the ultimate in cold
      She’s got lying Zionist eyes

      She’ll turn the AIPAC on you
      You won’t have to think twice
      She’s pure as Anthony Wiener’s moral code
      She’s got lying Zionist eyes

      And she’ll tease you
      She’ll unease you
      All the better just to shaft you
      She’s precocious and she knows just what it takes to make a Secretary back off
      She’s got “I’m going to scream about the Shoah” stand-off sighs
      She’s got lying Zionist eyes

      She’ll ask you to take some Palestinian homes (it whets her appetite)
      She’ll lay you on the throne
      She’s got lying Zionist eyes

  2. yourstruly
    yourstruly
    June 4, 2013, 11:45 am

    Between the lines of the Secretary of State’s speech is his fear that a Third Intifada would catch on not only in the Middle East but throughout the world, posing, thereby, an extraordinarily serious threat to Empire. That the powers that be, through Kerry, are sounding this alarm should shake the cobwebs from the apathetic and discouraged among us. They (ie the enemy) sense that for them time may be running out. If that’s the case, hey out there, is everyone ready?

    • lysias
      lysias
      June 4, 2013, 1:40 pm

      I think the reason for the hysterical reaction to Wikileaks is that the Arab Spring really unnerved the powers that be.

    • quirx
      quirx
      June 4, 2013, 1:42 pm

      I agree that the conflagration in the ME would be a threat to empire, but I would not agree that “they” are the “enemy” any more than American individuals, who by accident of their birth, are unable to change the stupidity of the government’s foreign or domestic policy should be counted as “the enemy” of the many brown people around the world who are horrifically adversely affected by those unjust policies and the violence used to enforce those policies.

      But I agree – Kerry is delivering a message, an important one at that, though very simple: “Please stand by for withdrawal, in 3…2…1…”

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        June 4, 2013, 2:46 pm

        I wonder if Kerry meant the Arab world isn’t going to hang around forever waiting for Israel to do the right thing.

        Saudi has really difficult succession decisions coming up.
        The Shia vs Sunni thing is going to absorb a lot of American energy over the next while.
        Israel doesn’t have unlimited time.

      • john_manyjars
        john_manyjars
        June 5, 2013, 8:08 am

        ‘Israel doesn’t have unlimited time.’

        Well, as long as we in the USA continue to buy them all the weapons they like, support ‘settlement’ construction with our taxes, be their willing dupe in the UN, along with looking the other way at their nuclear arsenal…sure they do.

    • American
      American
      June 5, 2013, 2:00 am

      @ yours truly

      You’re hitting on something that I think has to do with Kerry’s desperation–the larger picture of what is going on in the ME.—and that is Russia’s stand on Syria.
      This is a real game changer in the ME and exposes the limits of US power.
      It is the first time since WWll the US has been challenged on it’s international meddling and strong arming by a another superpower equal in size and might.
      While the neos and I-Firsters cry for the US to ‘intervene’ and regime change Syria, Russia is standing between the US and Syria and Hezbollah is cleaning out rebel strong holds in Syria, paying the US no more attention than they would a sand flea.
      The expert military consensus is that the rebels have lost—if there is no outside intervention by the US.
      If we don’t intervene the entire ME will know that we have blinked in the face of the Bear and that will have a huge effect on the ME from now on.
      Our being stalemated by Russia on Syria will also have a huge effect Israel’s power. Isr would undoubtedly get worse treatment from the radical Islamist that now are the real force of the rebels than they were getting from Assad’s supposed tie to Iran, so what Is wants most is for the US to clean it all up in some way that is favorable to Isr. Which would mean no rebels and no Assad either—an invasion and clear out of both sides and a US arranged new government–exactly what the neos and I Firsters are all over the corporate media demanding.
      To achieve that they have to start a ‘big war’….up their bombing in Syria or be insane enough to attack a Russian ship in transit to Syria.
      This is what Kerry is sweating more so than the 65 year old occupation of Palestine that we could stop any day with a crook of our check writing , UN vetoing finger.
      The US does not give a jack shit about I/P and settling it is not important to Isr security–Isr could continue like it is forever as long as it has US protection and the US is not challenged on it……BUT…if the ‘balance of power’ in the ME changes and is upset, other nations will get more aggressive in challenging us on Israel and on challenging Israel itself.
      Russia is committing that first upset in Syria…..if they hold fast..and if they do other upsets will also occur now that the US limitations have been exposed.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/syrian-president-al-assad-shows-no-sign-of-backing-down/2013/05/30/673b91a2-c949-11e2-8da7-d274bc611a47_story.html

      http://turcopolier.typepad.com/

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/29/192511/hezbollah-said-to-control-most.html#.UaeA7ZyymF9

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22698358

      http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130529/181410473/Russia-May-Revise-Ban-on-Syrian-Arms-Exports—Minister.html

  3. seafoid
    seafoid
    June 4, 2013, 11:45 am

    Good speech
    At least he said it.
    Of course he won’t do anything
    but the storm clouds are gathering.

  4. Citizen
    Citizen
    June 4, 2013, 12:29 pm

    “…leaders will take bold steps only if their people push them to.”

    How can Americans take bold steps on a matter kept from them by both their government leaders and mainstream media? Further, when the matter is brought up, it’s ignored by the mainstream media, or the grass roots messenger is smeared? When will mainstream news TV allow, e.g., Medea Benjamin or Allison Weir have some time to talk to the American people about the sorry state of our foreign policy, and how it’s bringing our country down?

    Further, we’ve now seen what Obama does to Americans who dissent from his agenda. I only need to mention IRS.

  5. dbroncos
    dbroncos
    June 4, 2013, 12:44 pm

    Kerry denounces the existence of a civil rights movement in I/P. Disgraceful. If this were broadcast in the US media he would be exposed as an even bigger and more scandalous clown than he is now.

    Kerry does acknowledge the fact that international terrorism targeting Americans, among other Western nations, has its origins among Arabs and Muslims who have had enough of the Israeli-American colonial crusade. However, he exposes his priorities clearly enough when emphasizes the problems this creates for Israel rather than the problems it creates for America.

    Do Kerry and Obama understand how much of tragic joke American “peace making” has become all over the world? Do they understand that their names will be permantly attached to this farce and that they they have come down on the side of oppression, racism, and fascism? Where is their pride?

  6. Brown-Eyed Girl
    Brown-Eyed Girl
    June 4, 2013, 1:08 pm

    How can Kerry be Jewish if it was his grandfather who was Jewish? I thought it had to be passed down through the mother in order to ensure “purity?”

    • June 5, 2013, 6:57 am

      Does that mean that this faux Irishman/Wasp does not have a right of “return” to Israel?

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      June 5, 2013, 7:24 am

      Reform Judaism authorizes Jewish ID through the grandfather’s side also. Israel’s law of return, copying the Nazi Nuremberg race law, also does–either grandparent being Jewish is all that’s required. (If memory serves)

      More traditional and conservative Judiasm still follows the old rule: Passage is through the mother only.

      Somebody correct me if I’m wrong on this.

    • john_manyjars
      john_manyjars
      June 5, 2013, 8:23 am

      Hmm- ‘purity’? Sounds a bit racist. Oh wait…

  7. annie
    annie
    June 4, 2013, 1:19 pm

    your writing is just f’ing brilliant phil weiss

  8. ramzijaber
    ramzijaber
    June 4, 2013, 1:31 pm

    Even if I were inclined to believe Kerry’s words, they remain words where immediate action is needed.

    Even if there were immediate US action, I believe it’s a bit too little too late.

    The illegal actions of the zionist regime and of the colonialist settlers have killed the 2SS. Only the 1S1P1V path is the solution now. We will continue that march supported by non-violent demonstrations, BDS, and ICC/ICJ action targeted at establishing a democratic secular State of the Holy Land with equal rights and obligations to all its citizens – Christians, Moslems, and Jews alike.

    • Don
      Don
      June 4, 2013, 3:02 pm

      Absolutely! You cannot lose if you take this approach.

    • American
      American
      June 5, 2013, 3:14 am

      Just apply existing International Law to I/P…..and enforce it to the freaking letter of the Law. That might get everyone to within spitting distance of justice.

  9. quirx
    quirx
    June 4, 2013, 1:36 pm

    Israel is like a diva – it needs to be flattered, cajoled, and bribed to perform on stage, even though that diva (and everyone else) knows she has no choice but to perform per the terms of her contract. No diva can survive without adoring fans. No performer can become a diva without sycophants who do the flattering and coaxing and at least a small coterie of adoring fans. It seems that this extends somewhat to the Jewish Zionist community in America as well. This seems to be why there is always the sickening tone of pandering, obsequious deference and flattery in any speeches given to either the state or the community, and the appearance that one must not upset them or they will burst into tears, flop dramatically onto their divan in the dressing room, and be unable to perform tonight – contract and fans be damned!

    This speech is extraordinary for a number of reasons. Bureaucratese is a language unto itself, as is diplomatese, and what is not said is almost, if not more important than what is said. Many things leap out immediately, as they should. Supporting a rogue state with political immunity and weapons, not to mention ignoring its crimes outright, and initiating two wars of aggression on its behalf, has hurt the US immensely. There is no more financial capital, political capital, there hasn’t been moral capital for a while, but the US is now in negative double- or triple-digits on that. The economy in such shambles that schools are closing, while enormous amounts are being borrowed at interest and given not only to the rogue state, but paying off its neighbors to keep their peace treaty with the rogue state. It cannot be rationalized on any level. So, this is unacceptable to the taxpayers at home, as it should be, whether they agree or disagree on the legitimacy of the rogue state.

    The only two things propping Israel up from falling off the cliff upon which it perched itself are UNSC veto and American largesse. Withdraw one or the other, or both, and Israel cannot continue to exist for long. And the US doesn’t even have to vote in favor of any UNSC resolution against Israel, or abstain on the record to make its point and signal to the world that there is an enormous paradigm shift – all the representative need do is visit the restroom during the vote/have a meeting at that time/join a conversation in the hallway. This will of course be much more effective if the American representative to the UN hasn’t discussed this with any other foreign diplomat- boy will they be surprised. But they aren’t thick; the message will be understood right away, freeing their respective countries to take their own steps (what their citizens actually want, which is to remove undeserved support to the rogue state).

    And I wouldn’t say “delegitimzers” are winning, I would say that people can only engage in a finite amount of double-think at any time before the unconscious mind rebels and refuses on any one topic (which ever topic that is for that person at the moment). Americans and Westerners seem to have hit the double-think limit and certain things are crashing through the ‘iron curtain’ of the mind, this issue being one of them; consciences are starting to wake up. I would say further that it is the consciences that are ‘winning’ and critical mass is fast approaching on this matter. Israel knows absolutely, unequivocally, that it cannot and will not win at the ICC on any of the matters that will (hopefully) be brought before that court. It’s hard to say whether this or the ‘demographic threat™’ is more terrifying to the state. Both are gigantic steamrollers with incredible momentum and both will mean the end of the Zionist colonial project.

    Accountability and consequences… imagine that.

  10. eljay
    eljay
    June 4, 2013, 1:42 pm

    >> The illegal actions of the zionist regime and of the colonialist settlers have killed the 2SS. Only the 1S1P1V path is the solution now.

    The insatiable greed of hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists helped make possible the oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State”, and the insatiable greed of hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists will have helped make possible its downfall.

  11. yourstruly
    yourstruly
    June 4, 2013, 1:45 pm

    as far as the powers that be are concerned –

    Beware any civil or human rights movement. You know what comes next; calls for liberty, equality and fraternity, followed by the guillotine, so hurry up with the concentration camps, cause already it may be too late.

  12. hophmi
    hophmi
    June 4, 2013, 2:22 pm

    “And you the lobby are destroying America’s image in the world. You are putting us all at risk.”

    Sigh. When did he say anything at all resembling this? You’re hearing what you want to hear. His message was that the American Jewish community needs to get behind a two-state solution, or things will get worse for us in the long-run. It was not about America’s image in the world.

    “the conflict impelled the Tsarnaev brothers to the Boston Marathon. ”

    Really? Seriously? I mean, seriously, really? The Tsarnaev brothers are Chechen. Do you think the first thing in their minds was the I-P conflict?

    ” Saying what every diplomat says, what Hillary Clinton said, that this is the only issue people talk about around the world.”

    And you have to ask yourself whether that makes any sense given all of the world’s problems. Is this the world’s biggest problem? Or is it a convenient way of ignoring the world’s biggest problems?

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      June 4, 2013, 4:15 pm

      “The Tsarnaev brothers are Chechen. Do you think the first thing in their minds was the I-P conflict?”

      Why not? The racist Jews in the stands at the Beitar Jerusalem game walked out and jeered when a Chechen player scored for the team they, themselves, favor, simply because the player was a Muslim and not a Jew. Given this level of Muslim hate among the israeli Jewish population, and given the long history of them oppressing Muslims in Palestine, I see no reason why they would not want to strike back at the state who facilitates israel’s evil.

      “And you have to ask yourself whether that makes any sense given all of the world’s problems. Is this the world’s biggest problem? Or is it a convenient way of ignoring the world’s biggest problems?”

      It’s one of the world’s biggest problems. You don’t think so, because Jewish jackboots are crushing Palestinian skulls. The rest of the world isn’t as happy about that fact as you are.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      June 5, 2013, 8:15 am

      @hophmi

      You are correct Kerry did not say or imply this: “And you the lobby are destroying America’s image in the world. You are putting us all at risk.”
      He can’t because his audience would stop supporting him and the Democratic Party.
      And the GOP would attack him for throwing Israel under the bus. Recall the Hagel vetting? Recall when Petraeus testified before that comgressional committee. He never mentioned that Israel’s conduct was a threat to US troops in the Middle East–although he had such content “for the record”–in his briefcase by his foot.

      And RE “And you have to ask yourself whether that makes any sense given all of the world’s problems. Is this the world’s biggest problem? Or is it a convenient way of ignoring the world’s biggest problems?”

      Well, Kerry did say, suggest, the Arab dictators raise the I-P issue to divert their own population’s discontent. And the rest of the world? He said this:

      “In fact, everywhere I go – literally, China, Japan – foreign ministers, presidents raise this issue. Young people ask me about this conflict and what they can do to help end it. In the last couple of weeks I had visits here from the Foreign Minister of Brazil and the Foreign Minister of New Zealand, and the first thing out of their mouth was, “How can we help on the Middle East peace process?” Now, I asked them, “Where’s that coming from? You’re over in New Zealand and this is the first thing on your mind?” They said yes because it affects all of the recruitment and all of the arguments and radicalism that we face, and they see the prospects and possibilities. Everyone is invested in a resolution and everyone has a role to play.”

      Is this the world’s biggest problem? From what Kerry’s been told everywhere he goes outside the US and Israel, it is “because it [the I-P conflict] affects all of the recruitment and all of the arguments and radicalism that we face.”

      I bet Hillary was told the same thing, over and over again.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        June 6, 2013, 12:22 pm

        “He can’t because his audience would stop supporting him and the Democratic Party.”

        He won’t, because it’s a silly idea. Frankly, I find Kerry’s story about hearing about this conflict around the world a little unbelievable. But let’s assume he’s telling the truth. What he’s really saying is that the Muslim lobby around the world has been successful in using this conflict to divert the world from every other problem in the Middle East. The I-P conflict is not going to have a great effect on New Zealand, unless some radical Muslim group threatens to kill Kiwis until they get what they want, in which case, they’re the problem, not the Jews.

        “Is this the world’s biggest problem?”

        Do you think it is? It doesn’t make a lot of sense. It’s only this important for two reasons: A substantial percentage of the Muslim world has been whipped into a frenzy over it, and because it’s filled with journalists who report every detail of everything that goes on there. But there are many more people dying elsewhere. I’d say world hunger’s a bigger problem than this conflict, where you’re talking about a few thousand deaths over a few decades in a region where massacres in greater numbers and widespread human rights abuses are routine.

  13. David Doppler
    David Doppler
    June 4, 2013, 2:30 pm

    An amazing speech. As good as any Obama has ever written (I bet he contributed substantially to it, or whoever is his best speechwriter did). And in part because of the analysis of his audience. So fine-tuned to them, stroking them, amusing them, threatening them, inspiring them, all within boundaries they were all (apparently) comfortable with. My opinion of John Kerry has gone up. This is a much deeper and more substantial effort than I’d imagined. Dare we hope for actual progress?

  14. Dan Crowther
    Dan Crowther
    June 4, 2013, 2:43 pm

    “Imagine that– a civil rights movement, says Kerry, is against Israel’s “interests” and also American “interests” in the Middle East.”

    ———-

    No shit bro. Are you really this naive or is it an act? But mommy, they told me “we” stand for democracy! What a joke. Yes Phil, the US gov’t is against real democracy in the ME and the rest of the world, the US included – has been since before you and I were born…..

  15. American
    American
    June 4, 2013, 3:30 pm

    “We know that this conflict, my friends, is not the cause of problems in the Middle East. Indeed, it has often been used as a convenient excuse for autocrats who didn’t want their own populations to recognize and wrestle with the inadequacies of their own governance. An excuse.””

    ROTFLAO……translated means…..every other world leader in the universe is smirking my face (and probably calling me the Lobby’s pussy poodle behind my back) every time I approach them on Israel and with the Piece Recess and this slop excuse.

  16. MHughes976
    MHughes976
    June 4, 2013, 4:04 pm

    Strength and security on the one hand, viability on the other. Power here, dependency there.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      June 4, 2013, 5:09 pm

      The Zionists are funny. They have the IAF and the bomb but they need goys to buy their exports to keep going.
      And the trends with the orthodox are potentially very destabilizing. But they don’t ever seem to think long term. They just fall back on their insurance. The bomb and Congress.

      I bet one of the problems is that the IDF boxwallas don’t understand macroeconomics very well.

  17. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    June 4, 2013, 5:37 pm

    RE: “As Obama did, Kerry fawned over Israel. They believe that the only way Israelis will do something is if you love them to death.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Obama and Kerry should talk to some good psychiatrists about the wrongheadedness of being Israel’s enabler out of the (mistaken*) belief that “the only way Israelis will do something is if you love them to death”**. It is possible for an enabler to literally love the enabled to its (literal) death.***

    * FROM JOEL KOVEL, 1-20-13:

    . . . As with everyone I know of in official political culture, [Thomas] Friedman [probably like Kerry and Obama – J.L.D.] assumes that Israel is a rational actor on the international stage who will obey the calculus of reward and punishment that regulates the conduct of normal states.
    The presumption is that if you tell it the truth, and even pull back US support, it will get the message, reflect, and change its ways. But Israel is not a normal state, except superficially. It will make adjustments, pulling back here, co-operating there, making nice when necessary, crafting its message using a powerful propaganda apparatus employing the most up-to-date social science. But this is simply tactical and no more predicts or explains the behavior of the Zionist state than an individual sociopath can be explained by the fact that he obeys traffic signals while driving to the scene of his crime. . .

    SOURCE – http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/israel-nominaton-hagel.html

    ** JACLYN FRIEDMAN (from “It’s Time for Some Israel Real Talk”):

    [EXCERPT] . . . I love Israel. As an American Jew, the dream of Israel has held me in thrall since I was a small child. The day I wept at the Wailing Wall was one of the most transcendent and emotional of my life. But loving someone doesn’t mean helping them do whatever destructive thing they want. Call that enabling or co-dependence, but it’s not love. I love Israel like I’d love a drunk friend who wants their car keys. . .

    SOURCE – http://prospect.org/article/it%E2%80%99s-time-some-israel-real-talk

    *** ALSO SEE: “How Israel Is Like an Alcoholic Mother”, by Megan McArdle, The Atlantic, 3/22/12

    [EXCERPT] . . . What is it Alex Portnoy overhears his mother say to her friends, apropos of the lengths she has to go to to get him to eat? “I have to stand over him with a knife!”
    To be a bit more serious for a moment, though, Chesterton famously quipped: “My country, right or wrong is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying: “My mother, drunk or sober.” Well, yes, but she is your mother, drunk or sober, right? Similarly, it is your country, whether your country is right or wrong. The question is what that entails. If your mother is a drunk, and begs for another drink, are you obliged to give it to her? Presumably not.
    But are you obliged to devote yourself to getting her to dry out? That, it seems to me is the real heart of the question. I think many of Beinart’s critics — like Jeffrey Goldberg — would say: that’s exactly how they think about Israel and the settlements. They are against them. . . They think they were and are a grave and historic mistake. . .
    . . . So they are doing what they can to convince their mother to check herself in and dry out. But she’s their mother. If it takes her a long time to convince, they’ll keep trying. If she slips a drink on the sly, they’ll try to hide the liquor better, but they’ll forgive her. [In other words, they will act as “enablers”. ~ J.L.D.] And, whatever she does, they certainly aren’t going to call the cops on her, and give the neighbors (who never liked her, even have tried to get her evicted) the satisfaction of seeing her humiliated by her own son in public. After all, she’s their mother. [Let’s call this “constructive engagement”! ~ J.L.D.]
    Well, talk to a few children of alcoholics, and you’ll discover that “my mother, drunk or sober” is not always a tenable proposition. Sometimes, for some people, the sense of obligation to one’s mother is trumped by a sense of obligation to oneself, and to protect oneself from her disease. And that, in a nutshell, is what Beinart is saying. She may be my mother, yes, but if she keeps carrying on, I don’t care what the neighbors say, and I don’t care if she never speaks to me again afterward: I’m going to call the cops on her. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/how-israel-is-like-an-alcoholic-mother/254939/

  18. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    June 4, 2013, 5:45 pm

    No, whatever one might hope, no storm clouds are gathering. Palestinians quitting Oslo, destroying PA, and demanding full non-discriminatory citizenship has no more clout than anything else they’ve ever demanded.

    Until the nations see the need for, the possibility of, the time for action (and not more mere words, nothing will happen except more squeezing, more apartheid.

    INTERESTING IDEA: ASK AIPAC TO GO FOR A JUST PEACE TO AVOID WORSE.

    KINDA LIKE ASKING SHELL/EXXON to quit fossil fuels to avoid global warming (much worse!).

  19. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    June 4, 2013, 6:00 pm

    RE: “Yesterday Secretary of State John Kerry spoke to the American Jewish Committee and warned the audience that the two-state solution is about to expire so they had better do something.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Kerry was wasting his breath, because the American Jewish Committee is just another “two state faker”*. It mouths the words “two-state solution”, but it opposes any practical measure that would help bring an independent Palestinian state into existence.

    * REGARDING “TWO STATE FAKERS”, SEE: “Flotilla 3.0: Redeeming Obama’s Palestine Speech with Gaza’s Ark”, By Robert Naiman, truth-out.org, 3/25/13

    [EXCERPT] . . . Bibi doesn’t want an independent Palestinian state; Bibi’s government doesn’t want an independent Palestinian state; AIPAC doesn’t want an independent Palestinian state; and Congress – which defers to AIPAC – doesn’t want an independent Palestinian state. Of course, many of them mouth the words – not Bibi’s government, they don’t even do that – but those who mouth the words oppose any practical measure that would help bring an independent Palestinian state into existence. They’re “two state fakers.” Settlement freeze? Impossible. UN membership for Palestine? Can’t be done. No, according to the two state fakers, the only option on the menu in the restaurant for the Palestinians is to return to negotiations without a settlement freeze, negotiations that for 20 years have brought more land confiscation, more settlements, more restrictions on Palestinian movement and commerce, more oppression. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/15307-flotilla-30-redeeming-obamas-palestine-speech-with-gazas-ark

  20. gingershot
    gingershot
    June 4, 2013, 6:19 pm

    FINALLY !!!!!!!

    RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — With no signs of progress in U.S attempts to restart peace talks with Israel, the chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat
    said Tuesday that the West Bank government is ready to resume its campaign to join U.N. and other international bodies in order to prosecute Israel.

    Looks like Kerry couldn’t buy the Palestinians off (and I’m speaking here mostly of Captain Kangaroo-Abbas)

    A main Israeli concern is that the Palestinians will seek membership in the International Criminal Court, where they will press war crimes charges against Israel.

    http://news.yahoo.com/palestinians-pursue-israel-un-talks-fail-161817729.html

    The Palestinians gave Israel/Kerry TWO MONTHS at the beginning of April to put up or shut up or they said they would go to the ICC. Time’s UP (this first week of June)

  21. tidings
    tidings
    June 4, 2013, 9:47 pm

    Brilliant analysis, Phil. Takes a rare brain to navigate between the lines and point to the plenty of darkness in Kerry’s speech. Although I often believe that the center’s not holding, you know what? The center’s not holding.

  22. Blank State
    Blank State
    June 4, 2013, 10:05 pm

    Only through radicalizing the Palestinians can Israel realize its actual goal. This goal, of course, is to create the justification for a final solution to the “Palestinian problem”.

  23. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    June 5, 2013, 12:23 am

    Phil writes: “By implication: the conflict impelled the Tsarnaev brothers to the Boston Marathon.”

    Well, in a round about way: Israeli attacks on Lebanon inspired Osama Bin Laden, who wished to be the ruler of Saudi Arabia, to express his chagrin at the lack of such a role in his life, by attacking the World Trade Center. The WTC attack led to an attack by the US on Afghanistan and Iraq. (The Afghanistan element of the US reaction to the WTC was rather automatic. Although now that the war seems to be a failure, some more limited goal short of nation building should have been conceived. The Iraq element of the US reaction was a result of the personnel chosen by Dick Cheney, who included those who viewed an attack on Iraq as something desirable, and these were people who supported Israel in their concept of a new Middle East or a New American Century.) And thus the Tsarneyev brothers, or let’s be specific, Tamerlane Tsarneyev, had it in mind to attack the US who is at war against Al Qaeda, Afghanistan and still implicated in the continuing sectarian bloodletting in Iraq.)

    The only things left out of this cause and effect are the direct causes of Tamerlane’s acts of random murder: The Russian war against Chechnya and Tamerlane’s violence against a girlfriend which stopped him from getting a golden gloves chance due to his lack of citizenship which was impeded by his history of violence.

    Well, I think the Russians fighting Chechnya and Tamerlane’s history of violence are sufficiently relevant to the cause and effect of Tamerlane and his little brother’s violence in Boston, that to write: the conflict impelled the brothers to the marathon to be a statement of reckless and ridiculous falsehood emblematic of a blame Israel (first, last and only) prejudice.

    • talknic
      talknic
      June 5, 2013, 4:34 am

      “Osama Bin Laden, who wished to be the ruler of Saudi Arabia, to express his chagrin at the lack of such a role in his life, by attacking the World Trade Center

      Twaddle

      “The WTC attack led to an attack by the US on Afghanistan and Iraq. “

      More twaddle. The PNAC many of whom who eventually infested the Whitehouse under Bush Jnr, outlined the sequence of events in the M East in 1998.

      • john_manyjars
        john_manyjars
        June 5, 2013, 8:29 am

        Yup. ‘A new Pearl Harbor’. Amazing how the PNAC filth and their treachery have been largely forgotten in today’s discourse.

        And how about those ‘art students’?

  24. American
    American
    June 5, 2013, 4:30 am

    Israel is all upset. And I count 675 million in this one article already paid for by US taxpayers for military bases for Israel.

    “As Macbeth moves downward toward inhumanity and loss of affect, Lady Macbeth moves upward, toward feeling and horror” …
    ’’ Out, damned spot! out, I say!—Out out damn spot!… will these hands ne’er be clean?—No more o’ that, my lord, no more o’ that…Here’s the smell of the blood still. All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this hand.’’

    Posted on Monday, June 3, 2013

    ‘ U.S. publishes details of missile base Israel wanted kept secret’

    By Sheera Frenkel | McClatchy Foreign Staff

    TEL AVIV, Israel — Israel’s military fumed Monday over the discovery that the U.S. government had revealed details of a top-secret Israeli military installation in published bid requests.
    The Obama administration had promised to build Israel a state-of-the-art facility to house a new ballistic-missile defense system, the Arrow 3. As with all Defense Department projects, detailed specifications were made public so that contractors could bid on the $25 million project. The specifications included more than 1,000 pages of details on the facility, ranging from the heating and cooling systems to the thickness of the walls.
    “If an enemy of Israel wanted to launch an attack against a facility, this would give him an easy how-to guide. This type of information is closely guarded and its release can jeopardize the entire facility,” said an Israeli military official who commented on the publication of the proposal but declined to be named because he wasn’t authorized to discuss the facility. He declined to say whether plans for the facility have been altered as a result of the disclosure.
    “This is more than worrying, it is shocking,” he said.
    Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Wesley Miller said he couldn’t comment on the specifics of the Arrow 3 base, but he said the United States routinely published the details of its construction plans on a federal business opportunities website so that contractors could estimate the costs of jobs. He said such postings often might be revised after contracts were approved.
    Israeli officials appear to have been well aware of the danger of outsourcing building projects to the United States. In an interview with the Reuters news agency in March, Lt. Col. Peleg Zeevi, the head of the bidding process at Israel’s Defense Ministry, justified Israel’s long history of relying on the United States to help build military installations by saying that Israel needed “a player that has the knowledge, ability and experience.”
    “We are aware of the security issues that arise in deals with foreign firms, but because we want real competition and expertise, we will create conditions that will allow and encourage their participation,” Zeevi said.
    It appears, however, that Israeli officials were caught by surprise that details of the facility at Tel Shahar, classified so top secret that Israel’s military won’t officially confirm its location between Jerusalem and Ashdod, would be made so public.
    Jane’s Defence Weekly first wrote about the bidding documents, citing them in a story in which it recounted details of the Arrow 3, a defense system designed to intercept ballistic missiles outside the Earth’s atmosphere that’s expected to become operational in 2015.
    According to the bid requests, the Arrow 3 system will include six interceptors in vertical launch positions to be placed in the facility, and a gantry crane would need to be erected for further missiles. The structures encasing the interceptor system are to be constructed from high-grade concrete reinforced with steel mesh grids. They’ll have steel blast doors and a system to protect electrical wiring from the pressure created by a launch.
    Israeli officials had announced that they were fast-tracking the Arrow 3 system because of their fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon.
    “We want to reach a situation in which Israel has a ready defense for any threat, present or future,” said Col. Aviram Hasson, the head of the Defense Ministry department that’s charged with developing the system.
    The Arrow 3 is capable of intercepting missiles at a range of up to 1,500 miles and can maneuver in midair to chase them. Last February, Israel conducted the first test of the Arrow 3 in space. That test was overseen by the United States.
    The new facility won’t be the first military installation the U.S. government has built in Israel. Since 1998, when Israel and the Palestinian Authority signed the Wye River memorandum, the U.S. has constructed about $500 million in military facilities for the Israeli army. In addition to bases in southern Israel, including the Nevatim air base, the U.S. has built command centers, intelligence offices and underground hangars to protect Israel’s jet aircraft.
    Last year, U.S. defense contractors began constructing an air force base just outside Tel Aviv – known as the “site 911” – that will cost up to $100 million. Israel’s military hasn’t revealed the purpose of the site, but it’s widely thought that Israel is trying to move some of its military headquarters from high-value real estate in Tel Aviv to the outskirts of the bustling city.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/03/192895/us-publishes-details-of-missile.html#.Ua0-qUAa6lg#storylink=cpy

    • quirx
      quirx
      June 5, 2013, 4:18 pm

      It’s funny how the apologists state categorically that all of Israel’s annual $3billion in military aid is pumped right back into the US economy through the defense industrial complex – studiously ignoring all the other little tidbits like how some of that is actually spent IN Israel through Israeli defense industrial complex and into its economy, as well as the underground bunkers, c&c centers, etc.

      But I disagree about the impetus to ‘fast-track’ the Arrow III – it may actually have a lot more to do with the EMP-hardened Russian S-300, cruise missiles and fighter jets to Assad, but more than anything, the Iskander. The Iran “threat” is a ploy that everyone recognizes already since Netanyahu has been peddling that one for over 20 years, and Islam forbids killing of innocents (non-combatants/soldiers) therefore the prohibition on chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

      • annie
        annie
        June 5, 2013, 4:24 pm

        quirx, another thing they don’t seem to notice is a fair amount of those companies are owned by americans with dual citizenship.like that company in pennsylvania that makes the tear gas. so yes, it may be an american company, but where are the profits ending up anyway? if you’re an israeli it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out you can open a company in the US to facilitate the requirements and i think that option is exercised more than we know about. of course i could be wrong. but there’s a lot of US money being pumped into israel thru tax deductible organizations too. that’s taking money right out of the federal governmemt too.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        June 6, 2013, 8:32 am

        @ quirx
        If memory serves, the US military direct aid package is unique in that 25% of that annual $3B (soon $4B) is reserved, not to buy US war stuff, but for Israel’s own industrial use–in direct competition with US weapons making companies.

  25. American
    American
    June 5, 2013, 5:08 am

    Ah yes the Piece Recess is moving right along as usual. LOL

    http://news.findlaw.com/apnews-lp/16beb96152f94901a9cd18a12419a888

    Palestinians to pursue Israel at UN if talks fail

    By The Associated Press
    RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — A senior Palestinian official says the West Bank government will try to bring Israel up on charges through the U.N. if American attempts to restart peace talks fail.
    Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told diplomats Tuesday that Palestinians plan on turning to U.N. agencies to charge Israel with war crimes in international courts if talks don’t resume.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Israel-would-oppose-intl-forces-as-part-of-peace-deal-315465

    ‘Israel opposes int’l forces as part of peace deal’
    By HERB KEINON, MICHAEL WILNER IN WASHINGTON
    06/05/2013 00:41

    International Relations Minister Steinitz shoots down idea of int’l forces being stationed in Jordan Valley, border areas.

    Even as US Secretary of State John Kerry has been keeping details of Washington’s vision for a possible Israeli-Palestinian peace deal very much under wraps, International Relations Minister Yuval Steinitz made clear Tuesday that Jerusalem would oppose any attempt to introduce international forces into the equation.
    “Some people are speaking about international forces, maybe [in] the Jordan Valley or the hills and border areas, that will take care of Israel’s future security,” Steinitz said in a speech at The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JCPA).
    Steinitz, a close confidant and political ally of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu who also holds the Strategic Affairs and Intelligence portfolios, said he would “vehemently” oppose any redeployment of international forces instead of the IDF.”

  26. gingershot
    gingershot
    June 5, 2013, 9:42 am

    Dear Mondoweiss/Phil:

    I’m sure you’ve seen this already regarding German labeling of Israeli products in today’s Haaretz – if not – enjoy:

    Germany’s gift to BDS: The slippery slope of labeling Israeli products

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel has given in to pressure to adopt provocative labeling for products made in Israeli settlements. Next stop: a full boycott of Israeli goods?

    The left-liberal German Green party finally forced the hand of the conservative Merkel administration to explicitly declare—what before had been an open secret—its support for product labels covering export goods from the occupied territories in the West Bank and Golan Heights.

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/germany-s-gift-to-bds-the-slippery-slope-of-labeling-israeli-products.premium-1.527933

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