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Stand-up comedian Anthony Jeselnik, host of Comedy Central’s late-night series The Jeselnik Offensive, i.e., he prides himself on being offensive, asks ‘Why did the a Muslim cross the road?’ in a segment on Islam. “Because he was being relocated by Israeli authorities to make more room for Jewish settlements on the West Bank.” A lot of jokes about Muslim terrorists, but his Muslim listeners laugh that off as lame stereotype. The point of the sketch seems to be that Muslims are ordinary Americans; and the sting is about Israel. 

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  1. August 15, 2013, 3:50 pm

    Cant help not to bring to your attention – although no chance to be posted on this site

    Another billion-ish buyout, another loud slap in BDS face: IBM buys Israeli computer security firm for $700M. Waze was first, and now there’s Trusteer; global tech companies are spending big bucks to acquire sabra technology. http://www.timesofisrael.com/another-billion-ish-buyout-ibm-buys-israeli-security-firm/

    Never mind – the facts are here and i will find other sites and FB pages to spread these amazing news. Sort of indicating how useless are all your efforts to hurt us

    • annie
      annie
      August 15, 2013, 4:40 pm

      Never mind – the facts are here

      hmmm, here’s some more ‘facts’ you might find interesting , from last week. it’s unlikely things have swung around much since then.
      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-07/israel-developed-market-turns-into-be-careful-for-what-is-wished.html

      While Israel has more startups per capita than any country and the benchmark TA-25 Index delivered the developed world’s second-best risk-adjusted returns, at the Tel-Aviv Stock Exchange, top officers have resigned, trading is down 44 percent since MSCI’s endorsement and big companies are leaving. The chief executive officer of one of those, Mellanox Technologies Ltd. (MLNX), says the exchange may need to be sold.

      “We went from a significant place in a market we wanted to move from to no-man’s land,” Daniel Goldstein, the global head of sales at IBI-Israel Brokerage and Investments Ltd., which manages more than 27 billion shekels ($7.6 billion), said on July 28 by phone from Tel Aviv. “There are lots of interesting things happening here, but this is not necessarily reflected on the TA-25 index. (TA-25) There is nothing high-tech.”

      Resignations

      Israel’s TA-25 Index rose 8.6 percent since the MSCI reclassification took effect in May 2010 versus a 67 percent jump for the Nasdaq Composite Index. (CCMP) That year alone, investors pulled $795 million from the Israeli market. The 44 percent tumble in volumes through the end of 2012 compared with an average 18 percent global decline, the Bank of Israel said in a March 12 report.

      Initial public offerings have dried up. In June, Kadimastem Ltd. (KDST), a developer of stem cell therapies, became the first company to list on the Tel Aviv bourse since the end of 2011, compared with a record 56 IPOs in 2007, exchange data show.

      Companies that pulled off the exchange, which had 549 stocks in 2012, included Hot Telecommunication System Ltd., a telecommunications company, and ELAD Canada Inc., a real estate company owned by billionaire Isaac Tshuva. Israel Chemicals Ltd. (ICL), the Tel Aviv-based company that extracts minerals from the Dead Sea to make fertilizers and potash, said yesterday it’s preparing for a dual listing in part to shield itself from worsening conditions on the local bourse.
      ‘Wake-Up Call’

      The drop in volumes prompted a feud between regulators and exchange officials over who was to blame. Former Tel Aviv Stock Exchange Chief Executive Officer Ester Levanon resigned on July 17 and Saul Bronfeld, the chairman since 2006, followed the next week. Bronfeld, a former Bank of Israel chief economist, cited government regulations and slower economic growth for the exodus of investors and companies. Israel Securities Authority Chairman Shmuel Hauser says the bourse’s management is also responsible.

      “The decline in volume and prices on the Tel Aviv bourse is due to excessive regulation and the change in the pace of economic growth, not the operations of the bourse,” Bronfeld said in an interview Aug. 5 in Tel Aviv. “My resignation is a wake-up call for Jerusalem,” where Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is based, he said.

      maybe you have not been following the bank of israel news over the last week, but some of us have. http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/haaretz-warns-israel-is-facing-its-moment-of-truth-as-europe-explores-sanctions-against-companies-tied-to-the-occupation.html

      Investment committees for European banks are considering recommending their institutions bar loans to Israeli companies that have economic links with the Palestinian occupied territories…..Last week, Haaretz reporter Yossi Verter referenced this as ” the mother of all fears” a “nightmare scenario” and warned of an “economic tsunami”.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 15, 2013, 5:21 pm

        First world problems, Annie, as the article makes crystal clear.

        Israel is a developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        August 15, 2013, 5:58 pm

        Israel is a developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness.

        That would all change the instant US aid and support dries up. As someone once pointed out, Israel would head backward pretty quickly if it ever had to pay it’s own way.

      • eljay
        eljay
        August 15, 2013, 6:02 pm

        >> Israel is a developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness.

        Yeah, it sure is amazing what stealing most of a region’s land and resources – as well as having the financial, economic, political and military backing of the world’s superpower – can do for a country.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        August 16, 2013, 2:25 am

        That “developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness” schtick doesn’t look particularly attractive to investors when 2 of the neighbouring countries are in meltdown.

        If Egypt ends up in a civil war it won’t be good for Israel.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        August 16, 2013, 5:56 am

        @ Shingo
        Yeah, $8.5 Million per day (plus interest) for decades helps Israel a tad, not to mention having your loans underwritten by the world’s only superpower printing dollars.

      • Xpat
        Xpat
        August 16, 2013, 7:44 am

        Whatever happened to Netanyahu’s promise he made in front of the US Congress to take Israel off American economic life support?

      • Danaa
        Danaa
        August 16, 2013, 12:13 pm

        Hophmi: “Israel is a developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness”

        A backwardness assured by israeli-sponsored and push for chaos, mayhem and sectarian strife in neighboring countries like Syria and now, Egypt and sanctions on Iran (which would have been quite p[prosperous if not for israel’s push to keep it off the common economic map). I think it is not very hard to see who is behind the attempts to kill every green shoot around it. In the process killing most green shoots around the world too (unless one consders the “creative’ multi 100 Trillion deriviative trade now dragging the west down an “innovative” financial tool**).
        _______
        **not accusing israel of inventing deriviatives by any means. But of making everyone associated with peddling its sick rotten-to-the-core PR with a kind of stupidity that is blind to collateral consequences or to blow-back. In any sphere, economics not excluded.

      • SimoHurtta
        SimoHurtta
        August 16, 2013, 12:30 pm

        Is Israel really that hophmi? A developed nation. Germany in 30’s was also a developed country.

        Saying that Israel is a developed country compared to Arab countries is true economically and industrially, but so what. So is also Iceland. Israel’s economy is totally isolated from the regions economy.

        Israel is itself saying being part of the west. Compared to western countries Israel is in the bottom of the barrel.
        Israel is a less developed country in the sea of economic excellence.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 16, 2013, 1:21 pm

        “A backwardness assured by israeli-sponsored and push for chaos, mayhem and sectarian strife”

        Oh please. Now let’s blame Israel for Syria and Egypt. It was just a matter of time.

        Sorry, Charlie, this argument isn’t going to work this time.

      • Danaa
        Danaa
        August 16, 2013, 2:06 pm

        Everyone who knows anything about anything knows israel is

        1. behind the push to break up Syria, murder as many of its people as possible through injection of SaudiArabia/israeli salafist/Al Qaeda jihadis, and generally weaken the country so the road to iran will be a bit more secure. US has NO independent “foreign policy” on this issue, only israel-imposed one.

        2. Intent on derailing whatever “Arab Spring’ has brought forth in Egypt through a military coup. check out the piece today at MW via JJ Goldberg about the reasons behind America’s seeming incoherence on Egypt. That’s what happens when a country’s foreign policy has been disabled and made to hue to another – incoherence. And yes, israel was 100% supporting the miiitary coup in Egypt and has forced the US to not call it a coup so the aid can go on flowing to the Junta.

        Israel is interested in whatever causes weakness, chaos and blood-shed in the countries around it. for that purpose it has even teamed up with saudi-Arabia, to run weapons, “train” jihadis and try and trip Assad anyway possible. yes, many in israel think this is rather short-sighted policy that’s bound to boomerang – you can read about some of those voices in harretz, surely. but alas, voices of reason do not dominate in israel and as a result, they have been silenced in the US as well.

        read all about it, hophmi – you can open almost any credible publication (ie, not your favorite zio-rags) and see it platy out. i am simply calling attention to the fact that we are all onto the israeli gig. the one you are entrusted apparently to peddle, somewhat haplessly.

        What israel has done to Syria is atrocious beyond words – and unfortunately in that they sucked the US/Nato turkey/Jorday into the vortex of criminal immorality. last we saw such hideous policies play out on such a scale was in south America, before that Vietnam and before that when?

        Before you answer hophmi remember that you are one poster here that has been debunked more times than there are days in a year. sure you can try and hop through of some of them hapless homilies again, though my dance card is kind of full at the moment.

      • frankier
        frankier
        August 16, 2013, 2:10 pm

        “Oh please. Now let’s blame Israel for Syria and Egypt. It was just a matter of time.”

        Well… actually… yes…
        Egypt is a client state of the US for the sole purpose to play nice with Israel. The US (and Israel) did not hesitate to install Mubarak, whose government was universally acknowledged to be “bad” for the Egyptian people, to eliminate the potential of a less-secular government that would not play nice with Israel. Mursi was elected in a fair election (quite a departure from the Mubarak era) and while his polices might be objectionable and not-so-secular, he was the expression of the Egyptian people. His only problem was that Israel did not like him and would not take the chance of Egypt shifting away from its peace treaty with Israel. Hence, they “instructed” the US to
        support a coup… ehhmmm, change in government (Hamas, anyone?).

        Syria… maybe you are right. Israel prefers that Assad retains power with his resignation approach about the Golan Heights which means one less problem. Come to think of it, maybe that is why the US are staying relatively put.

        Who cares about the Egyptian and Syrian people? Israel does not even entertains the idea of helping Syrian refugees… actually Israel might shoot them if they dare to get close to the border.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 16, 2013, 2:42 pm

        “Egypt is a client state of the US for the sole purpose to play nice with Israel. ”

        Really, the sole purpose. There’s no other reason. It’s not the largest Arab state in the region. There could be no possible US interest other than protecting Israel. And of course, there is no history of Western powers trying to coopt Arab regimes, period.

        “The US (and Israel) did not hesitate to install Mubarak, whose government was universally acknowledged to be “bad” for the Egyptian people, to eliminate the potential of a less-secular government that would not play nice with Israel.”

        Install him? Did they install Nasser too? He was dictator, remember? So was Sadat.

        And of course, a less secular government would have no implications for the US outside of Israel. The Muslim Brotherhood has a peaceful history with all except the Israelis.

        “Mursi was elected in a fair election (quite a departure from the Mubarak era) and while his polices might be objectionable and not-so-secular, he was the expression of the Egyptian people. ”

        Oh please. Please, please, please. He won about 40% of the vote and governed like a sectarian. And when he was thrown out, the populace supported it. You deny people any agency.

        ” His only problem was that Israel did not like him and would not take the chance of Egypt shifting away from its peace treaty with Israel. ”

        And that his people didn’t like him very much. And for the record, he more or less cooperated with Israel.

        “Syria… maybe you are right. Israel prefers that Assad retains power with his resignation approach about the Golan Heights which means one less problem. ”

        Who knows; I don’t think Israel cares who is in power. Like most countries, they want stability, not chaos, on their border.

        “Who cares about the Egyptian and Syrian people? Israel does not even entertains the idea of helping Syrian refugees”

        Which is why Israel is treating Syrian refugees from the war in their hospitals for free.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 16, 2013, 2:56 pm

        “1. behind the push to break up Syria, murder as many of its people as possible through injection of SaudiArabia/israeli salafist/Al Qaeda jihadis, and generally weaken the country so the road to iran will be a bit more secure. US has NO independent “foreign policy” on this issue, only israel-imposed one. . . What israel has done to Syria is atrocious beyond words”

        Danaa, read this to yourself. Israeli salafist? How far does your conspiracy theory go? Israel killed all of those Syrians? You’re nuts.

        “Intent on derailing whatever “Arab Spring’ has brought forth in Egypt through a military coup.”

        Oh please. Give the Egyptian people some credit. An MB guy got in with less than a majority. He governed like a sectarian in a country that was an economic mess. The people supported his overthrow.

        “And yes, israel was 100% supporting the miiitary coup in Egypt and has forced the US to not call it a coup so the aid can go on flowing to the Junta.”

        Israel forced the US not to call it a coup? Really. I guess you agree with Fox News types that the Obama administration really is infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.

        “Israel is interested in whatever causes weakness, chaos and blood-shed in the countries around it. ”

        They’re interested in installing a junta that will keep Egypt quiet with fear and interested in whatever causes chaos. Which is it?

        “for that purpose it has even teamed up with saudi-Arabia, to run weapons, “train” jihadis and try and trip Assad anyway possible.”

        Danaa says Israel will train terrorists to overthrow Assad. Frankier says Israel wants Assad to stay in power because that means quiet in the Golan. Pick one. I pick stability, and the idea that Israel would train jihadists to overthrow Assad is laughable.

        ” i am simply calling attention to the fact that we are all onto the israeli gig”

        Danaa, you’re not onto anything. The only thing you’re onto is coming up with ever more laughable ways to blame the Jews for the ills of the world.

        “Before you answer hophmi remember that you are one poster here that has been debunked more times than there are days in a year.”

        Danaa, you’re free to live in your own world. You can post as many crazy conspiracy theories as you want here; there isn’t a single citation in your piece, and much of what you say is really nuts. But this is Mondoweiss, and it’s par for the course here, and I’m sure the moderator will continue to put it through.

        I don’t know who you are or where you come from, but you are completely obsessed with the Israel and Jews and with spewing forth a litany of blame that finds an audience only among the most recalcitrant and factually-challenged, those who live in unfree societies where unfree state media spews crap like this on a regular basis to deflect criticism of themselves. It’s really sad.

      • August 17, 2013, 1:32 am

        Again hatred rules on these pages. Facts are irrelevant. Actually Israel GDP per capita is $32K per year and higher than Italy, Span, Argentina, not too far from France ($35K). US GDP is also not in the skies – $42K. Isreal was recently ificial accepter as a membe of OECD and is doing not so bad although some parameters are problematic. Find out which and you will have a factual reasons to critisise us. Just remember we are only 65 years old. Like is around 1850’s. With very different initial conditions.

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        August 17, 2013, 4:09 am

        Greetings frankier,
        Mubarak.
        Grand high Golem’ in residence’: Netanjahu lamented that he had lost his only Egyptian friend.
        ziusudra

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        August 17, 2013, 9:43 pm

        Wrong as usual.

        Italy’s GDP is $36k per capita.

        Just remember we are only 65 years old.

        And already skilled workers are leaving Israrl in droves. Israel is also facing a bond crisis, so once the economy tanks (and it will), there will be a mass exodus and Israrl will become a 3rd world country.

        Israel ponzi scheme is zbout to go down.

        http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/leiderman-withdraws-bank-of-israel-bid-in-netanyahu-blow-1-.html

      • AlGhorear
        AlGhorear
        August 16, 2013, 11:25 am

        There’s trouble for Ahava and Sodastream now too with the new EU rules. Bloomberg article

      • August 16, 2013, 3:56 pm

        On y0ur first item you do not understand what you are talking about. These are not good news but it has nothing to do with phenomenal success of our technology and enterpreneurial spirit.
        About the second – we just dont know how bad it is. Haaretz people are mostly ultra left (a bit like you except that they are all Zionists). They already warned us with tzunami etc. But again this has nothing to do with our phenomenal succeses in technollogy

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        August 17, 2013, 4:46 am

        Greetings Annie,
        Love your work.
        Zionistan with 5.9 m. people has a Stock Exchange?
        Germany with 85 m. has one also, but only 2%
        of Germans deal in stocks. The Germans chuckle
        when TV brings on the daily reports after the News.
        Most Israelis are working stiffs like the rest of the world.
        What’s 2% of 5.9 m.?
        ziusudra
        PS A bunker capacity for only 30K with a population of 400K
        in Tel Aviv tickles me more!

    • MRW
      MRW
      August 15, 2013, 4:47 pm

      fnlevit,

      Buying them up is one way to stem sabra theft of technology in the first place.

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      August 15, 2013, 5:08 pm

      “Sort of indicating how useless are all your efforts to hurt us”

      “us”?

      Wow you are paranoid. Are you ok?

    • justicewillprevail
      justicewillprevail
      August 15, 2013, 5:51 pm

      So what’s your point? Oh yeh, the occupation and the apartheid system, combined with US taxpayer cash, have benefitted Israeli security companies enormously, who have made a fortune out of military related technology, which Palestinians are the test bed for. You are a busy little hasbara drone.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      August 15, 2013, 6:00 pm

      $700 million is a spit in the ocean given hat the IDF alone is $20 billion in the red.

      Song considering the IDF is almost entirely subsidized by Washington.

    • talknic
      talknic
      August 15, 2013, 9:15 pm

      fnlevit ” another loud slap in BDS face: IBM buys Israeli computer security firm for $700M. Waze was first, and now there’s Trusteer; global tech companies are spending big bucks to acquire sabra technology”

      Are they firms in occupied territories? Illegal settlements?

      “Sort of indicating how useless are all your efforts to hurt us

      Oh please. The perpetrator cries victim is so boring and false. No one is trying to hurt you. We’re trying to get you to STOP hurting other people and ultimately yourselves.

      How does it feel to be wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong on every point in your post? You must be getting used to it by now, surely…

      • yrn
        yrn
        August 16, 2013, 5:34 am

        Playing stupid
        “Are they firms in occupied territories? Illegal settlements?”
        Suddenly Naive BDS is boycotting only occupied territories? Illegal settlements?”.
        I guess you read Hostage too much,,,,,,,,,,,
        Aicia keys came to perform in occupied territories? Illegal settlements?, that ALL the BDS worked 24×7 to try and stop here…………..

      • talknic
        talknic
        August 17, 2013, 7:06 am

        yrn “Playing stupid”

        Na. Watching another silly hard core apologist for Israel thinking they’ve scored a point

        “Suddenly Naive BDS is boycotting only occupied territories? Illegal settlements?”

        Anywhere to highlight Israel’s crimes in occupied territories, is a fair target!

        “Aicia keys …. that ALL the BDS worked 24×7 to try and stop”

        Even though she played, the issue of Israel’s crimes got publicity. If only one person is now better informed through their attempts. That’s how it works

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        August 17, 2013, 7:37 am

        Suddenly Naive BDS is boycotting only occupied territories? Illegal settlements?”

        You have a point YRN. BDS should be targeting all of Israel, because Israel will start falsely labeling products and lying – as they do with everything else.

        Aicia keys came to perform in occupied territories? Illegal settlements?

        Illegal settlements are the policy of Israel, not the settlements.

      • yrn
        yrn
        August 17, 2013, 8:18 am

        Is your BDS boycotting
        occupied territories? Illegal settlements?
        Or All of Israel.
        As Alicia performed in Israel.
        Or is it to hard for you to distinguish between the too.

    • yrn
      yrn
      August 16, 2013, 5:45 am

      BTW IBM CEO is in Israel now Virginia M. Rometty Looking to buy technology, that’s company is number 13 already bought by IBM……… so is Steve Ballmer CEO of Microsoft……
      Were is Roger Waters……. ?????
      Why wan’t you all Boycott Windows and Windows explorer …

      • Ecru
        Ecru
        August 16, 2013, 1:59 pm

        @ yrn

        And how much Israeli “development” would have been possible without it being supported by its sugar-daddy the USA. And then of course all the industrial espionage it then practised upon its benefactor.

        Answer : not a great deal.

    • SimoHurtta
      SimoHurtta
      August 16, 2013, 6:59 am

      Are you joking Fnlevit? Look closer at the economy and technological level of Israel and compare it to Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands etc and you will be surprised. Israel is superior and important only in Zionists’ imagination. This can also be seen in the different ratings which reveal Israel’s real level, which is something else Israeli propagandist tell us and seem themselves to believe. Measured with on personal level GBP (PPP) Israel is number 31 and among all countries GDP (nominal) number 42. Israel’s export and import levels and structures can be seen here. The biggest product group of Israel imports for example to EU are chemical based products TDC 06) and mineral products & blood diamonds (TDC 05+ TDC 14).

      Anyway WHEN the level of Israeli apartheid becomes more obvious and brutal the consequences will hit hard Israeli economy. Many Israeli high tech companies will move to USA and Europe. That is easily done because these companies are mostly knowledge in peoples heads and computers. If (I mean when) the economical and cultural blockade begins Israeli secular intelligentsia begin increasingly to use their second passport without returning. There remaining Jews will fortify behind their religion and overblown nationalism making the country a paradise of nationalistic fanatics and religious extremists. End of the Jewish Reich …

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 19, 2013, 11:45 am

        ” Look closer at the economy and technological level of Israel and compare it to Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Netherland”

        Is this a serious intellectual argument? Are you seriously comparing small European states with little or no military commitments (and sparse populations to boot) to a state in the Middle East surrounded by hostile neighbors? Israel and Scandinavia. They’re exactly the same, with the same challenges. No wait, there’s a difference. Scandinavia is way, way, way whiter.

        You’re engaging, first of all, in a straw man. No one said Israel is superior to any of these states. On the question of tech innovation, at least in terms of start-ups per capita, there is no question – they are far superior. But you seem to be responding to an argument no one has made, which is that Israel is more prosperous than these states.

        You also seem to ignore the fact that all of these countries suffer from an unsustainable model; they have low fertility rates below replacement level (they’re all under 2), aging populations, and huge social welfare states, a major problem across the EU that is going to result in serious economic problems down the road. Israel’s fertility rate is nearly 3.

        This really is a great example of your obsessive need to see only negatives when it comes to Israel, an example of the way you people cut off your noses to spite your faces. Instead of criticizing Israeli innovation, you should learn from it. Palestinian businessmen certainly do.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        August 19, 2013, 2:00 pm

        “They’re exactly the same, with the same challenges. No wait, there’s a difference. Scandinavia is way, way, way whiter.”

        That must be so tough for racists like you and Eli Yishai, who can only dream of making your favorite apartheid state for the white man only…

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        August 19, 2013, 11:51 pm

        Are you seriously comparing small European states with little or no military commitments (and sparse populations to boot) to a state in the Middle East surrounded by hostile neighbors?

        Why not? Israel’s economy is highly dependent on military spending and on exploiting the resources in the occupied territries, which is why Israel goes to such lengths to maintain those hostile relations with it’s neighbours.
        Israel could end those hostile relations in a day by accepting the Arab Peace plan, but it chooses not to. Again, there is no point asking for sympathy for being an orphan if you commit patricide.

        On the question of tech innovation, at least in terms of start-ups per capita, there is no question – they are far superior. No one said Israel is superior to any of these states.

        Yes they did.

        On the question of tech innovation, at least in terms of start-ups per capita, there is no question – they are far superior.

        Actually, they are superior in terms of stealing intellectual property, reverse engineering and patent infringement.

        You also seem to ignore the fact that all of these countries suffer from an unsustainable model;

        So does Israel – far more so in fact. With the Haredim births exploding and their refusal to work, Israel will soon be approving an unsustainable model where there are 4 dependent on welfare for every worker.

        This really is a great example of your obsessive blinkered support for Israel.

  2. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    August 15, 2013, 3:53 pm

    I’ll wait for the day that ‘Jewish sentiments on Leumi Bank’ have become Comedy Central fare…

    Any divers around there that I could borrow something off [holding breath and such]?

  3. Nevada Ned
    Nevada Ned
    August 15, 2013, 4:52 pm

    Thanks for this article!

    I suspect that successful Israeli high-tech businessmen are eager to move beyond the limited market of Israel (only 5M Jews) and play in a global market. Israel is selling drones worldwide, for example. I would not be surprised if they wanted to move to Silicon Valley, because that’s where the action is.

    You might investigate what Israeli journalist Bernard Avishai has to say about this latest development – he’s a spokesman for Israeli high-tech business.

  4. Krauss
    Krauss
    August 16, 2013, 4:57 am

    Israel is a developed nation in a sea of economic backwardness.

    Apartheid South Africa was also an economic beacon is a sea of backwardness.
    Did that help it out? Israeli high tech is pretty amazing for the size of the economy, but it’s not really something on people’s radar for the most part. How many people will care about Trusteer? Now that it is being swallowed whole by the IBM giant it will be rendered invisible.

    But it’s still undeniable that Israel is doing very well in high tech. Consider that Israel alone manufactures more drones than the entire EU combined. Although that’s more a testment to European dysfunction and just general failness rather than Israeli inventiveness.

    I’m curious about the demographics of the high tech sector though, it’s often been said that it’s been dominated by Ashkenazis and often Russian-speaking ones.
    Does anyone know how the Mizrahi are doing? What about the ultra-Orthodox?
    There are a few pilot programs to integrate them into the Israeli society but from what I’ve seen so far it hasn’t been a huge hit. And I guess the Arabs are just banned, wrong religion, wrong ethnicity, put into segregated schools with minimal funds.

    • Ecru
      Ecru
      August 16, 2013, 1:55 pm

      “Israel alone manufactures more drones than the entire EU combined. Although that’s more a testment to European dysfunction and just general failness rather than Israeli inventiveness.”

      I think it speaks more about the Israeli murder fetish and desire to turn innocent blood and suffering into money than anything else.

    • ziusudra
      ziusudra
      August 17, 2013, 4:37 am

      Greetings Krauss,
      ….how are the Mizrahi & Ultra-orthodox doing?…
      East Euros/ Khazarians like Russians are not Ashkenasi.
      Only Sephardi went to Europe. – descendents of 5K Judeans,
      who went back to Jurusalem in 456BC.-
      Ashkenaz were not People, but the name of the ‘places of learning’
      in German Towns in the 10th C. The Germans thought them falsely
      to be Ashkenasi.
      World Jewry as an accepted identity today live 50/50= in Zionistan &
      the US. + 400K in Germany & France.
      … what about the ultra-orthodox?….
      900K live happily in Zionistan neither serving nor working & Grand Golem
      Nitanyahu is not amused.
      ziusudra

  5. seafoid
    seafoid
    August 16, 2013, 9:30 am

    There is a lot of comedy potential in the space between the IDF and Tikkun Olam.

  6. Citizen
    Citizen
    August 16, 2013, 10:28 am

    How can you tell a Muslim from a terrorist?
    You can’t that’s the problem.

    They laughed at that Jeselnik joke too.

  7. Bumblebye
    Bumblebye
    August 16, 2013, 3:01 pm

    http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/08/14/watch-the-best-ever-rant-about-muslims/

    Excellent spoof on Islamophobia from Brit comedian Stewart Lee.

  8. August 17, 2013, 1:53 am

    In many comments the issue of the US aid is mentioned as the source of Israeli economic advance. As is often hatred rule making the effort to look up data needless. Here are some facts

    US aid to Israel is $3.1 bln a year. To get the scale (i.e. to understand howsignificant it is) – Israel annual budget is around $97 bln so it is just 3 percents. Important 3% but still just 3%.
    But moreover is strictly only military. This means that it pays only for Israel purchasing military US equipement. As I undderstand money is STRICTLY all spent in US supporting US industries and employment. In rare cases some of this money is alllowed to be spent in Israel for Israeli own developement. Special permission by the Congress is needed like with the recent $500 mln on developement of the Israeli unique Iron Dome technology.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      August 17, 2013, 6:57 pm

      US aid to Israel is $3.1 bln a year. To get the scale (i.e. to understand howsignificant it is) – Israel annual budget is around $97 bln so it is just 3 percents. Important 3% but still just 3%.

      The 3 billion figure is out of date and only the tip of the iceberg.

      In addition to that figure, there is:

      1. Supplemental aid which doesn’t appear on the books.
      2. Loan guarantees, which allows Israel to borrow money at lower interest rates
      3. Loans from the US that are forgiven

      In addition, the trade agreement between the US and Israel
      is highly distorted and one sided to benefit Israeli companies and disadvantage US companies. Israel gets to maintain extensive protectionism while the US companies have none.

      The trade agreement has been described as a 10 billion annual grant to Israel

      Then there are the huge sums of charity that Israel relies on.

      So all up, US financial assistance to Israel is closer to
      15 billion.

      But moreover is strictly only military. This means that it pays only for Israel purchasing military US equipement. As I undderstand money is STRICTLY all spent in US supporting US industries and employment.

      75% of the official aid yes, but then again, who else is Israel going to buy weapons from anyway?

      Special permission by the Congress is needed like with the recent $500 mln on developement of the Israeli unique Iron Dome technology

      Wrong. The Iron Dome was additional funding to the 3+ billion given to Israel.

  9. August 17, 2013, 2:03 am

    Hatred on these pages blinds your eyes. Even about well known facts. Israel original innovation and technolical advances is behind many many things you use in your every day life. Take drip irrigation. When you turn on the sytem of those quietly dripping pipes in you graden – it is Israel who invented and possibly producing. Or take disc on key. Every time you take your presenttaion with you in your pocket rathen that on a disc on it is Zio trechnology in your pocket. Yoy computer is protected by “firewall” invented by Checkpoint. Military and civilian drones, mini sattelites, you name it. Thousands more items. Here is a Wikipedia link to Israel innovations and inventions. Amazes even me – makes a long reading
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      August 17, 2013, 7:32 pm

      When you turn on the sytem of those quietly dripping pipes in you graden – it is Israel who invented and possibly producing.

      Drip feed irrigation was not invented by Israel.

      Every time you take your presenttaion with you in your pocket rathen that on a disc on it is Zio trechnology in your pocket. .

      Israel did not invent the thumb drive. There were other designs developed at the same time.

      Yoy computer is protected by “firewall” invented by Checkpoint. .

      A “firewall” describes the function of a piece of software you idiot and there are countless variants.

      Israel did not invading the firewall.

      Israel did not invent drones or mini sattelites either

      What amazes me is the desk you Hasbarats believe.

  10. August 17, 2013, 2:11 am

    More fresh news.

    Billionaire U.S. investor Warren Buffett intends to buy the final 20% of Iscar from the Wertheimer family for about $2 billion, the sides announced on Wednesday. This will give Buffett’s company Berkshire Hathaway complete ownership of the Israeli cutting-tool firm.

    Berkshire Hathaway bought 80% of Iscar seven years ago in its first acquisition outside the United States. At the time it received an option to buy the remaining 20%.
    http://www.haaretz.com/business/warren-buffett-buys-out-israeli-tool-firm-iscar-for-2-billion.premium-1.518655

    • American
      American
      August 18, 2013, 12:25 am

      I read about that in the busness news when Buffet first bought into Iscar —-if my memory is correct , the Iscar founder is one of the few good guys among the Isr busness community—started out his business makng knives in his back yard—he’s a peace advocate and anti occupation —I seem to remember also that he tried to interest people in or start up something to help fund Palestines who wanted to start their own busnesses .
      Also the Iscar operaton want to cut it’s risk in having all it’s production in the Isr basket and open a plant in another country but was havng a problem doing that—-thats probably where Buffet came in.
      As least Buffet isnt enriching any of the Isr russian mafia business families who are the top dogs in Isr.

    • Eva Smagacz
      Eva Smagacz
      August 18, 2013, 8:21 am

      Brilliant news about Berkshire Hathaway buying cutting tool company.

      Berkshire Hathaway has a stringent set of criteria for business acquisitions. The
      criteria are as follows:
      1. Large purchases (at least $75 million of pre-tax earnings unless the business
      will fit into one of our existing units),
      2. Demonstrated consistent earning power (future expectations are of no
      interest to us, nor are “turnaround” situations),
      3. Businesses earning good returns on equity while employing little or no debt,
      4. Management in place (we can’t supply it),
      5. SIMPLE BUSNESSES (if there’s lots of technology, we won’t understand it),
      6. An offering price (we don’t want to waste our time or that of the seller by
      talking, even preliminarily, about a transaction when price is unknown).

      Great: the most profitable future for Israel is to have real need for cutting tools.

  11. August 17, 2013, 2:13 am

    Warren Buffet in Israel : Isreal is the leading, largest, most promissing investment hub outside United States.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      August 17, 2013, 7:37 pm

      Warren Buffet in Israel : Isreal is the leading, largest, most promissing investment hub outside United States.

      Rubbish. It’s not even in the top 30. Even Switzerland, with the same population, blows it away for GDP.

      And Israel has had a trade deficit since 1956.

      • American
        American
        August 18, 2013, 12:32 am

        @ Shingo

        thats just the typcal speech any exec gives when he makes an investment or locates a plant in some country…..just like politicans do….its PR, nothng more.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        August 19, 2013, 11:48 am

        “Even Switzerland, with the same population, blows it away for GDP.”

        Even Switzerland, the world’s banker, blows it away for GDP. ROTFLMAO. Switzerland is a bank. It doesn’t have an army. It will take money from anybody, and I mean anybody. It has a higher GDP than the US does.

        Any more truly dumb comparisons, Shingo?

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        August 19, 2013, 9:23 pm

        Even Switzerland, the world’s banker, blows it away for GDP. ROTFLMAO. Switzerland is a bank. It doesn’t have an army. It will take money from anybody, and I mean anybody.

        As opposed to Israel? Now ton have me ROTFLMAO.

        Any more truly dumb argument Hop?

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        August 19, 2013, 11:43 pm

        “Switzerland is a bank. It doesn’t have an army.”

        Yes it does*. Switzerland has an Air Force, too. Not much of a Navy, though.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

        (*Takes an awfully long time for them to organize a bayonet attack, though.
        “Lessee. That’s the magnifying glass. Can opener. Thing for taking stones out of horses’ hooves. Tweezers. …” )

  12. August 19, 2013, 3:39 pm

    Just type in Google – Israel innovations and inventions.
    Concderning GDP per capita – Israel’s is above Italy and Spain and Argentine. Close to France ($35K). US’s is not in the sky – $42K.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      August 20, 2013, 2:53 am

      Concderning GDP per capita – Israel’s is above Italy and Spain and Argentine

      No it isn’t. Italy is $38K.

      Stop lying.

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