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Israeli ambassador Dr. Michael Oren wrote a letter praising J Street that was in the press packet at the Israel lobby group’s conference. Here it is. Notice how the United States and Israel are joined at the hip, and how a sense of Jewish peoplehood is the source of Jewish creativity.

Shalom,

The past four and a half years have been a period of profound challenges for both our countries, and yet one of immense accomplishment. Together, the United States and Israel have produced the most advanced multi-layered anti-ballistic system in the world, we’ve greatly expanded our commercial ties, and probed new horizons in science, medicine, and technology. We have worked tirelessly for peace, and have succeeded in restarting direct talks between Israel and the Palestinians. Together, we are working to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

Throughout my term I have been privileged to uphold the principal [sic] of Klal yisrael, the ideal of a Jewish people which can bridge political and religious differences and which remains the source of our creativity and strength. That principal [sic] will continue to guide me always.

L’hitraot in Israel

Dr. Michael B. Oren

The letter puts a cherry on top of a relationship that wasn’t always that great. Oren once feuded with J Street and said, “They claim they’re pro-Israel… They are calling for Israel to be condemned in the Security Council for the settlements and they are condemning some of our best friends on the Hill. So they can call themselves what they like.” Then in 2010 Oren and J Street patched up. Thanks to Mitchell Plitnick.

 

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  1. seafoid
    seafoid
    October 2, 2013, 4:11 pm

    Together they have rolled back international law and the Geneva conventions. Well done, Israel. Jews of the future will be so grateful.

  2. seafoid
    seafoid
    October 2, 2013, 4:23 pm

    “the ideal of a Jewish people which can bridge political and religious differences and which remains the source of our creativity and strength. ”

    Such Jewish genius and such hope for the future
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNDczR78ZhU&feature=related

    Creative ways to oppress and brutalise Palestinians. Very impressive, Israel. Wouldn’t it make more sense to focus on diplomacy, perhaps? Or even understanding the history of the so called ancestral homeland – how did the last Sparta manage ?

    And isn’t it funny that Jewish unity on Zionism is so fragile that dissent cannot be tolerated ?

    • Mayhem
      Mayhem
      October 3, 2013, 10:03 am

      @seafoid, you are suffused with so much hate for Israel that you throw logic to the wind. It doesn’t prove anything to show a video of right wing extremists a couple of years ago letting off a bit of steam. You cannot stand to hear about the marvellous achievements of Jews and you have to demean their success by saying it comes from the victimizing of Palestinians. You have contempt for “Jewish genius” which has contributed so much to our modern way of life and culture. Like the perverse left wing thinker you are you revel in the suffering of the Palestinians because it gives you your rationale for despising Israel with which you revel.

      Jewish unity on Zionism is so fragile that dissent cannot be tolerated

      Jews are engaged in open discussion and free thinking right across the entire political spectrum – it is the rabble Left and its Palestinian cohorts that is entrapped in a monolithic, ideological prison, where any deviance from the rigid, standard anti-zionist line is criticised and condemned with the mindless cry of traitor and collaborator.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        October 4, 2013, 3:16 am

        ” open discussion and free thinking right across the entire political spectrum – it is the rabble Left

        That was my point.
        Open discussion is insult free . There is no open discussion.

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        October 4, 2013, 9:31 am

        The extraordinary achievements of Israel have not come from victimization of he Palestinians; their achievements have actually come in spite of the huge imposition that the Palestinians make on the Israeli economy by their opposition to and non-cooperation with Israel e.g. the intifadas, anti-normalisation campaign etc. The Palestinians are a burden to Israel hindering it from reaching greater heights than it already has e.g. construction of the security fence, the maintenance of a defensive military machine that detracts from more productive endeavors etc.
        Palestinians are the ones who show the traits that seaview postulates are those of Zionists. With his characteristic upside-down logic he ignores the fact that the Palestinians show no real diversity of views when it comes to the I/P conflict – they know they risk being labelled as traitors and collaborators if they are seen to be co-operating with Israel. Remember the bodies of suspected collaborators being dragged through the streets in Gaza by a regime that exhibits all the hallmarks of barbarian medievalism. Look at the hateful treatment that one man Khaled Abu Toameh gets because he dares to speak out about the despicability of many aspects of Palestinian society.
        @seaview, to refer to the ‘rabble’ Left is no insult – it is in fact letting the Left off very lightly. The Left is riddled with anti-semitic tendencies through and through – the anti-Zionism which has become the stock feed of the new anti-semitism grew out of communism during the 1930s. A video by Professor Ruth Wisse, a powerhouse thinker, sums up the whole conflict very aptly at http://www.torahcafe.com/professor-ruth-wisse/the-arab-war-against-the-jews-video_26211c28a.html
        Yes Annie the kids have right wing extreme views – what do you expect to see – people with horns growing out of their heads? They react understandably to the perennial hate that is manifest in the Arab world. Other Jews also know what they are dealing with from their Arab neighbors, but they manage to contain their reaction, but deep down they know what prevents progress.
        Regarding the remarks I have addressed to seaview and to many others around here like him, my main point really is to demonstrate how they are blinded by their poisoned contempt for Israel and do not at all appreciate the political dilemma that Israel has been in since its inception. Just six million Jews live in Israel – the significance of that number cannot be lost on anyone with an eye on recent history, as Israel sits perilously surrounded by over 300 million Muslims born and bred on a educational diet saturated through and through with virulent anti-semitism. That is the main obstacle to any solution to this ever enduring conflict.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        October 4, 2013, 3:20 pm

        Israel sits perilously..virulent antisemitism… Nobody asked the bots to colonise palestine. Nobody asked them to vote for sociopaths like Netanyahu. Nobody forced them to run apartheid. Ecclesiasticus said you live in the consequences of your decisions and Israel will too.

      • talknic
        talknic
        October 4, 2013, 3:50 pm

        @Mayhem Uh huh. You missed out on the part where Israel is the Occupying Power over non-Israeli territories and as the Occupying Power its illegal facts on the ground are in breach of hundreds of UNSC resolutions

        WHY?

      • traintosiberia
        traintosiberia
        October 5, 2013, 12:56 pm

        You should read “Spy Trade’ by Grant Smith to figure out the technological and economic improvements wrought by Israel on the back of US .
        You should read Quick Sand by Geoffrey Wawro to find out how the dispossession and displacement of local Arab not only from homes but from work force carefully managed and overtly applied by Ben Gurion and Histraduth imposed poverty,lack of resources,and no commercial or educational opportunities on Palestine for generations.
        You should read “Fatal Embrace” published by University of Chicago Press to find out how the deregulation of financial services in 1980s have eviscerated common Americans and enriched a few . Overwhelmingly major percentage of those few are Jewish.
        Even now it is going on. Who has got 90 % of the Homeland Security funding compared to the threat and attacks of any given population based on race or religion ?

      • annie
        annie
        October 4, 2013, 4:09 am

        where any deviance from the rigid, standard anti-zionist line is criticised and condemned with the mindless cry of traitor and collaborator.

        that’s not true. i’ve said many times if zionism had manifested on some island somewhere or a place where people were not expelled i would have no problem with it. i even wrote a post about supporting 2 states back in 2010 http://mondoweiss.net/2010/05/the-trap.html

        and no one has ever called me a traitor or a collaborator. i have never self identified as an anti zionist.

        Pinch me so I can wake up from this nightmare. Don’t fall for it people. Don’t let them define you as the problem, because we are not the problem. Human Rights Activists are not the problem. Don’t let them turn the argument into us defending ourselves against this ridiculous aggressive victimhood strawman ad hominem argument. This is a trap. How many times do we have to go on the defensive and say “No no I don’t want to destroy Israel and the Jews”? We want Israel to be a nice place, so they should fix it and direct their energies towards those ruining it. Get off our backs, we are not your problem.

        but you don’t want to direct your energies towards those ruining israel. you can’t even tell who’s ruining israel can you?

        seafoid linked to a video of a big crowd of young healthy clean cut looking teens on jerusalem day screaming ‘slaughter arabs’ and you call him full of hate? you call that ‘letting off steam’? and why do you say they are ‘right wing extremists’? they just looked like normal kids to me, like the ones max blumenthal interviewed in jerusalem. terms like ‘extremists’ are relative. iow, for israel this is not that unusual.

        You cannot stand to hear about the marvellous achievements of Jews and you have to demean their success by saying it comes from the victimizing of Palestinians.

        well, where’s my son’s free house and land? of course israelis success comes from the victimization of palestinians. for one thing they have an imprisoned customer base of millions who have no choice but to patronize them. all the land was free. palestinians buy food at the market from israeli settlement farms grown on stolen palestinian land. and you don’t see that as unfair.

        you want to isolate individual stuff and say ‘this happened over here in this building and the nakba was a long time ago’. it doesn’t work like that. you want to point to seafoid’s ‘hate’ when he shows you israeli kids ‘blowning off steam’ as you call it. you can’t look at it and you can’t hide from it. what will you do? you’ve thrown logic to the wind.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        October 4, 2013, 6:36 am

        “no one has ever called me a traitor or a collaborator.”

        But I have condemned your lack of capital letters. That is far worse than treason or collaboration.

  3. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    October 2, 2013, 5:32 pm

    RE: ‘Together,’ US and Israel have probed horizons of science, medicine and military technology, Oren says

    MY COMMENT: And together, they have eroded the values of The Enlightenment! ! !
    “Down, down, down we [the U.S.] go into the deep, dark abyss; hand in hand with Israel.”

    EXAMPLES OF ISRAEL AND THE U.S. NEGATING THE VALUES OF THE ENLIGHTENMENT:
    “How We Became Israel”, By Andrew J. Bacevich, The American Conservative, 9/10/12
    LINK – http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-we-became-israel/
    “America Adopts the Israel Paradigm”, by Philip Ghiraldi, Antiwar.com, 7/05/12
    LINK – http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/07/04/america-adopts-the-israel-paradigm/
    “Report: Israeli model underlies militarization of U.S. police”, By Muriel Kane, Raw Story, 12/04/11
    LINK – http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/04/report-israeli-model-underlies-militarization-of-u-s-police/
    “From Occupation to ‘Occupy’: The Israelification of American Domestic Security”, By Max Blumenthal, Al-akhbar, 12/02/11
    LINK – http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/2178 OR http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29892.htm
    “Homeland Security Made in Israel”, by Philip Giraldi, Antiwar.com, 8/22/13
    LINK – http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/08/21/homeland-security-made-in-israel/
    • NRA PUSHES PLAN IMPORTED FROM ISRAEL TO PUT POLICE IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS – NRA President’s Report: David Keene on the Push to Protect Our Children [VIDEO, 12:10] – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Iy-LVL5dU
    • IN THE WAKE OF THE BOSTON BOMBINGS, a “National Security Expert” on Fox Faux News said that the U.S. is like a 14-year-old teenager going through “security puberty”; and we must demand that our government “get on the Israeli page”! ! !
    On the Wish List from the Boston Bombings – The Israelization of America [VIDEO, 00:25] – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fff8dXQNVdA
    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”, By Michael Kelley, Business Insider, 6/07/13
    LINK – http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6
    “IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology”, By Richard Silverstein, Tikun Olam, 6/07/13
    LINK – http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/09/top-secret-iaf-unit-exposed/
    “Meet the Israeli-linked firm that sold Big Brother machines to Mubarak, Qaddafi – and Washington”, by Max Blumenthal, Mondoweiss, 6/15/13
    LINK – http://mondoweiss.net/2013/06/machines-qaddafi-washington.html
    “What was the Israeli Involvement in Collecting U.S. Communications Intel for NSA? ~ By Haaretz, The Associated Press and Reuters, informationclearinghouse.info, 6/08/13
    LINK – http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35215.htm
    “The Second Battle of Gaza: Israel’s Undermining Of International Law”, by Jeff Halper, mrzine.monthlyreview.org, 02/26/10
    LINK – http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/halper260210.html
    “The Trial of Israel’s Campus Critics”, by David Theo Goldberg & Saree Makdisi, Tikkun Magazine, September/October 2009
    LINK – http://www.tikkun.org/article.php/sept_oct_09_goldberg_makdisi
    “Brooklyn College’s academic freedom increasingly threatened over Israel event”, by Glenn Greenwald, guardian.co.uk, 2/02/13
    LINK – http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/02/brooklyn-college-bds-alan-dershowitz
    “Peter ‘Powder Keg’ Beinart is disinvited from gig at Atlanta Jewish book festival”, by Annie Robbins, Mondoweiss, 11/05/12
    LINK – http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/peter-powder-keg-beinart-is-disinvited-from-gig-at-atlanta-jewish-book-festival.html
    ‘Israelis are helping write US laws, fund US campaigns, craft US war policy’, by Philip Weiss, Mondoweiss, 6/30/12
    LINK – http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/israelis-are-helping-write-us-laws-fund-us-campaigns-craft-us-war-policy.html
    “David Yerushalmi, Islam-Hating White Supremacist Inspires Anti-Sharia Bills Sweeping Tea Party Nation”, by Richard Silverstein, Tikun Olam, 3/02/11
    LINK – http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/03/02/david-yerushalmi-islam-hating-white-supremacist/
    “Boston airport security program rife with racial profiling has Israeli links”, by Alex Kane, Mondoweiss, 8/14/12
    LINK – http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/boston-airport-security-program-rife-with-racial-profiling-has-israeli-links.html
    “Obama’s kill list policy compels US support for Israeli attacks on Gaza”, By Glenn Greenwald, guardian.co.uk, 11/15/12
    LINK – http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/15/israel-gaza-obama-assassinations

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