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From Sol Salbe’s excellent Facebook page. Hafrada means separation in Hebrew. Kochav Yair is famously home to retired Israeli brass, including political leaders Ehud Barak and Shaul Mofaz. Salbe:

Apologists for overt Israeli racism often point to the ultra-orthodox and poorer classes as being responsible. As this account tells us far from it. Residents of one of the wealthiest towns in the country are just as vehement about their racism and their desire for hafrada [separation; look it up in Afrikaans] from the country’s Palestinian Arab citizens.

The following Facebook post was posted in a thread on a friend of a friend timeline. While I cannot vouch for its accuracy I have a high opinion of my friend’s integrity.

Salbe translates a Hebrew message from Aviv Engler:

Untitled – I’d like to share with all of you something similar that I experienced a few days ago. I live in Kochav Yair [a secular, very well off township in central Israel]. It is the embodiment of pampered and satiated Israel. As befitting a town filled with such quality people, a high degree of sport consciousness has developed. Men and women go out every night for a brisk walk . Not far away is the [Palestinian] Arab village of Tira. In recent times there has been a phenomenon of Arab women coming to Kochav Yair and strolling around for their enjoyment. This phenomenon, the reasons for which I can only guess, is interesting and may tell us quite a bit of the subtle and hidden changes that are taking place in Israel.

A few days up a photo was posted on the local community’s Facebook page. The photo showed a note that somebody stuck on one of the Arab women’s vehicles which suggested that she and her friends buzz off away from the township. In addition I myself witnessed an incident in which a vociferous man swore and yelled at a group of Arab women in order to intimidate them and compel them to leave. That man only left the scene after my intervention and following a verbal stoush between us.

It should be further mentioned that, the note in question, which can be roughly translated to German as Juden Raus [Jews Out] received a flood of supportive and sympathetic comments on the community’s Facebook page. Most were racist comments masquerading in the guise of rational argument. It would be pointless to detail them here. Contrary to my usual habit, I responded to the insults thread and suggested (in all seriousness) that a joint walking group for Jewish women from the township and the visiting Arab women be established. I was rewarded with a deluge of comments which in the best case were cynical but on the whole were violent and abusive. I was also invited to leave the township and move to an Arab town….

I remind you: Kochav Yair is known as one of top communities in Israel. I’m sorry to report – none of the women in the community responded to my suggestion. Not a single woman in our community wants to stroll together with Arab women, even when they know these women are humiliated and threatened in public, just because they dare to do what they cannot do within the Arab community – to take care of themselves for a change. Pay attention all of you who practice violence, physical or verbal …. Count to ten.

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  1. just
    just
    October 12, 2013, 12:45 pm

    Good work Aviv Engler.

    Aren’t these folks all Semites? Brothers and Sisters?

    And yet, far too many vociferously deny that Apartheid exists and flourishes in Israel and by Israel.

    Ptooey.

  2. Mike_Konrad
    Mike_Konrad
    October 12, 2013, 2:51 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokhav_Ya'ir

    Kokhav Ya’ir (literally “Ya’ir’s star”) was named for Abraham Stern, who went by the alias Ya’ir, the founder and leader of the Lehi group, a militant Jewish underground active during the British Mandate of Palestine. Stern is also German for “star.” Tzur Yigal (literally “Yigal’s rock”) was named for Israeli Knesset member Yigal Cohen.

    Seems to be a very well off town.

    What they did to the Arab women was NOT right.

    • Nevada Ned
      Nevada Ned
      October 13, 2013, 3:44 am

      The Lehi group was also known as the Sterg Gang, whose notable achievements (during the pre-state period) include: The assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte (a U. N. mediator who attempted to protect the Palestinians during the 1947-8 Nakba), and a proposal made by the Stern Gang to Germany for an alliance against Great Britain, the common enemy. (The offer got fairly high in the Nazi bureaucracy, reaching the desk of Ribbentropp, the Foreign Minister, but the offer didn’t quite reach the desk of Adolph Hitler himself, “the decider”). (The Germans were so busy with the enormous battle against the Soviets that they didn’t have time to deal with a small group like the Stern Gang.)
      The Stern Gang was run by Yitzhak Shamir after Stern was killed in a shootout with the British.

      These facts should be taken into account when the Israeli government proclaims that it is unwilling to negotiate with somebody (Hamas, or Iran, or the PLO) because that somebody is “bent on the destruction of Israel,” etc.). Yitzhak Shamir attempted to negotiate with Adolph Hitler, to achieve an alliance between Germany and the Zionists. Shamir went on to serve as Foreign Minister during the Begin/Sharon 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

      • amigo
        amigo
        October 13, 2013, 6:46 am

        Lehi was another Jewish terrorist ganf to whom the occupation Nation pays honor in the form of the “Lehi Ribbon of Honor” presented to Israel,s present day terrorists.Namely, thugs in IDF uniform.

        Israel was born in terrorism and lives on in terrorism.Zionism is terrorism personified.

    • amigo
      amigo
      October 13, 2013, 6:56 am

      “Kokhav Ya’ir (literally “Ya’ir’s star”) was named for Abraham Stern, who went by the alias Ya’ir, the founder and leader of the Lehi group, a militant Jewish underground active during the British Mandate of Palestine.”mk

      Call it like it is Mike.They were murdering terrorists.

      Not militants.

    • thankgodimatheist
      thankgodimatheist
      October 13, 2013, 11:53 pm

      Funny you say that what they did wasn’t right since that is what Israel is ALL about. Segregation, discrimination and separation. In other words. Apartheid.

  3. K Renner
    K Renner
    October 12, 2013, 4:59 pm

    Can’t really be surprised, since they supposedly named the town after racist deluded sociopath Avraham Stern– or from his alias that everyone knows, anyways.

  4. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    October 12, 2013, 5:38 pm

    RE: “Residents of one of the wealthiest towns in the country [Israel] are just as vehement about their racism and their desire for hafrada [separation; look it up in Afrikaans] from the country’s Palestinian Arab citizens.” ~ from Sol Salbe’s Facebook page

    FOR THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS “HAFRADA” (I.E., SEPARATION), SEE:
    “Rich People Just Care Less”, By Daniel Goleman, N.Y. Times, 10/05/13

    [EXCERPT] . . . In politics, readily dismissing inconvenient people can easily extend to dismissing inconvenient truths about them. The insistence by some House Republicans in Congress on cutting financing for food stamps and impeding the implementation of Obamacare, which would allow patients, including those with pre-existing health conditions, to obtain and pay for insurance coverage, may stem in part from the empathy gap. As political scientists have noted, redistricting and gerrymandering have led to the creation of more and more safe districts, in which elected officials don’t even have to encounter many voters from the rival party, much less empathize with them.
    Social distance makes it all the easier to focus on small differences between groups and to put a negative spin on the ways of others and a positive spin on our own.
    Freud called this “the narcissism of minor differences,” a theme repeated by Vamik D. Volkan, an emeritus professor of psychiatry at the University of Virginia, who was born in Cyprus to Turkish parents. Dr. Volkan remembers hearing as a small boy awful things about the hated Greek Cypriots — who, he points out, actually share many similarities with Turkish Cypriots. Yet for decades their modest-size island has been politically divided, which exacerbates the problem by letting prejudicial myths flourish.
    In contrast, extensive interpersonal contact counteracts biases by letting people from hostile groups get to know one another as individuals and even friends.
    Thomas F. Pettigrew, a research professor of social psychology at the University of California, Santa Cruz, analyzed more than 500 studies on intergroup contact. Mr. Pettigrew, who was born in Virginia in 1931 and lived there until going to Harvard for graduate school, told me in an e-mail that it was the “the rampant racism in the Virginia of my childhood” that led him to study prejudice.
    In his research, he found that even in areas where ethnic groups were in conflict and viewed one another through lenses of negative stereotypes, individuals who had close friends within the other group exhibited little or no such prejudice. They seemed to realize the many ways those demonized “others” were “just like me.” . . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/

  5. OlegR
    OlegR
    October 12, 2013, 8:01 pm

    A friend of a friend of a friend posted on facebook…
    Oh dear me.

    • amigo
      amigo
      October 13, 2013, 7:01 am

      “A friend of a friend of a friend posted on facebook…
      Oh dear me.”olegless r

      Can we assume from your response you are on the side of keeping those Ayrab Women off your Jewish streets.

    • thankgodimatheist
      thankgodimatheist
      October 13, 2013, 11:55 pm

      Oleg. Denying the evidence is an Israeli national sport. Not sure if you’re Israeli but you’re good at it too.

  6. RoHa
    RoHa
    October 12, 2013, 10:37 pm

    Makes sense. Having those types wandering around lowers the property values. They’re all terrorists, anyway. Probably planning an attack.

  7. Hester
    Hester
    October 13, 2013, 2:27 am

    How very sad it all is that this sort of ignorance continues in the 21st century.

    I am puzzled by something Engler wrote on his Facebook page:

    “… just because they dare to do what they cannot do in the Arab community – to take care of themselves for a change.”

    What does he mean? That the Palestinian women cannot exercise in their own communities?

    • annie
      annie
      October 13, 2013, 4:01 am

      hester, probably not. it stands to reason the women probably can walk around in their own community. if you’ll note, Aviv Engler wrote:

      there has been a phenomenon of Arab women coming to Kochav Yair and strolling around for their enjoyment. This phenomenon, the reasons for which I can only guess, is interesting and may tell us quite a bit of the subtle and hidden changes that are taking place in Israel.

      iow, aviv doesn’t know why the women are coming to this town. maybe they just like it there.

      but as an aside, i should point out just today i was in the neighboring town. i like the cafes and they have a movie theatre there (i saw MLK in palestine) and i ran into some friends from berkeley (another neighboring town albeit much further away (25 minutes!). we had a coffee together, the 5 foreigners from neighboring towns.. but i don’t think the residents of the town took notice or if they did they didn’t say anything.(about our radical actions)

      How very sad it all is that this sort of ignorance continues in the 21st century.

      and the overt racism? what do you think of that? phew~

      more aviv:

      Most were racist comments masquerading in the guise of rational argument.

      yep, that’s how it’s done.

  8. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 13, 2013, 3:29 am

    “The photo showed a note that somebody stuck on one of the Arab women’s vehicles which suggested that she and her friends buzz off away from the township.”

    This article reminds me of the Speed Sisters, the first (female) Palestinian car racers; Bourdain goes for a ride with one of them, where she tells him matter-of-factly how she got shot in the back by an IDF canister, all the while taking Bourdain for a spin in her race training grounds, an abandoned industrial dump site overlooked by an Israeli watch tower. She also tells Bourdain the Israelis won’t let her race against them–he goes something like, “Oh, of course, what an ignorant question I asked you.”

    Apparently the Palestinian women are from wealthier Palestinian families since they drive their cars to go to Kochav Yair to do walking and jogging there since they can’t do it at home?

  9. Eva Smagacz
    Eva Smagacz
    October 13, 2013, 4:55 am

    I assume that Kochav Yair has walkways without potholes ( we know that local authority money are much more generous in Jewish neighbourhood) , communal greenery maintained with water that community can purchase without restriction (unlike non-Jewish neighbourhoods), street lighting (see potholes).

    If you want to jog or walk for exercise, choosing well lit, surrounded by greenery walkways without the potholes is a no-brainer.

  10. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 13, 2013, 8:28 am

    I don’t know where to put this bit of information, so I will put it here: An Israeli mother, Katrina Brill, recently came from Russia to Israeli, where she killed her two kids and committed suicide and she did this in context of “the difficulties of the absorption process.” http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.549135

    Is it harder for someone immigrating from Russia than say, another immigrating from America? Anybody have a clue?

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      October 13, 2013, 9:03 am

      Here’s an interview with the head of Israel’s absorption process–she gets mad at one point, declaring, “We’re a racist society,” and says Israelis don’t know how to relate to, most especially Russian and black immigrants: http://www.amirmizroch.com/2010/01/23/israels-immigrant-absorption-minister-were-a-racist-society/

      Another big difficulty factor in the Israeli absorption process is that most families who come from Russia Federation only have one of two kids, just like Katrina Brill, but housing for new immigrants only goes to those with many kids.

  11. Helena Cobban
    Helena Cobban
    October 15, 2013, 10:53 am

    What is the basis for this apparently racist comment about the Israeli-Palestinian women walkers in Aviv Engler’s commentary: “they dare to do what they cannot do within the Arab community – to take care of themselves for a change.” ???

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      October 15, 2013, 11:37 am

      I assume it’s Engler demonstrating that she’s not free of anti-Arab bigotry. The tone of the article was an odd one. It seemed to suggest that Engler was upset, not primarily because these Palestinians experienced racist hostility, but because it was women who experienced the racism. (Note her dismay that no other Jewish women would not join in Engler’s attempt to create bonds of sisterhood with the Palestinian women.) My guess is that she bought into the libels about the attitude of Arab men toward women.

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