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Noam Sheizaf has an important piece up at +972 showing what Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu really thinks of President Obama. Netanyahu recently met with Likud supporters, and mocked Washington’s demands:

Responding to a question from the audience, Netanyahu said: “I was threatened in Washington: ‘not one brick’ [of settlement construction] … after five years, we built a little more than one brick…”

Asked “about peace talks with the Palestinians,” Netanyahu reportedly replied, “about the – what?” to which the audience responded by breaking out into laughter.

Sheizaf headlines his story “Peace talks? What peace talks?” and says the Netanyahu quotes were posted by a Likud supporter in Hebrew. He supplied this translation:

When I entered the Prime Minister’s Office for my second term, I was summoned to Washington. “Not one brick,” they told me (referring to settlement construction in Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem). I was threatened specifically: “Not one brick.” The pressure from the international community and the Americans was enormous. I don’t think anyone in Israel was under such pressure. And still, after five years on the job, we built a little more than “one brick.” But the important thing is to do it in a smart way, in a quiet way, without inflammatory statements.

Sheizaf adds: “Netanyahu then went on to speak about how important U.S. support is, and how well his speeches were received by the U.S. congress.”

The attitude reminds us of that moment when Netanyahu explained that the US is something that can be “easily moved.”

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  1. justicewillprevail
    justicewillprevail on May 25, 2014, 12:53 pm

    A loathsome, dishonest, arrogant settler. Yeuch. When will the US citizenry wake up to the way they are slimed?

  2. David Doppler
    David Doppler on May 25, 2014, 12:57 pm

    The only way for Netanyahu to suffer consequences for this contempt of the US is for reporting such as this to get wider play. Journalists and editors who conceal this contempt are complicit in the manipulation of the American people by and for the benefit of the Israeli right wing, a state of affairs that is deserving of infamy, yet is chuckled about by the Likudniks, with impunity.

  3. Citizen
    Citizen on May 25, 2014, 2:31 pm

    Not to worry, Dick and Jane remain totally ignorant, going about their consumer jobs, if they have one. Everybody in my extended family remain totally ignorant. Nothing to worry about.

  4. mzrt
    mzrt on May 25, 2014, 3:03 pm

    Trying to understand the point of this post. Are you attempting to show how one dimensional was the White House’s 2009 understanding of realities in the Middle East? Trying to illustrate how Pres. Obama from the outset misunderstood the amount of leverage he had over other foreign leaders (take note, Pres. Putin)? Or illustrating how shallow is this administration’s understanding of how Israel’s internal politics shape it’s approach to foreign-policy?

    The Palestinians have the power to change Israel’s internal politics, but they have chosen not to do that. Israeli voters also have the ability to change the shape of Israel’s internal politics, but they appear to be quite comfortable with the way things are.

    Given the absence of any meaningful external or internal pressure, it would be nonsensical for the prime minister of Israel to take orders from this or any other President.

    • annie
      annie on May 25, 2014, 3:45 pm

      Trying to understand the point of…. Are you attempting to show how one dimensional was the White House’s 2009 understanding of realities in the Middle East? …Trying to illustrate how Pres. Obama from the outset misunderstood ..? Or illustrating how shallow is this administration’s understanding of how Israel’s internal politics?

      i hardly think you are sincere in “trying to understand the point of this post”, but a clue is in the opening:

      showing what Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu really thinks of President Obama. Netanyahu recently met with Likud supporters, and mocked Washington’s demands:

      Responding to a question from the audience, Netanyahu said: “I was threatened in Washington: ‘not one brick’ [of settlement construction] … after five years, we built a little more than one brick…”

      Asked “about peace talks with the Palestinians,” Netanyahu reportedly replied, “about the – what?” to which the audience responded by breaking out into laughter.

      ……The attitude reminds us of that moment when Netanyahu explained that the US is something that can be “easily moved.”

      how anyone could misconstrue this was an attempt to show “how shallow is this administration’s understanding of how Israel’s internal politics”…is laughable. maybe you just have poor reading comprehension.

      more likely you are just feigning confusion as an excuse to insert your israel-excusing-blame palestine viewpoint.

      The Palestinians have the power to change Israel’s internal politics, but they have chosen not to do that.

      #hasbaraFAIL

      • mzrt
        mzrt on May 25, 2014, 4:08 pm

        The fact that the president of United States would reportedly tell that to the prime minister of Israel is a reflection of a very shallow understanding of Israeli politics.

        Leaders say bad things about other leaders. What’s the news in that? We know what Pres. Obama thinks of Netanyahu, he said it with the microphones on standing next to Pres. Sarkozy in Paris. I remember reading in one of the Israeli dailies some commentary by a columnist, Nahum Barnea I believe, who was chuckling at how inept the sound engineers were. The fact that Obama said something ugly about Netanyahu was dismissed by the writer as of little significance and certainly no surprise.

        And yes, the US can be influenced and moved, that is the nature of our government.

        Again, what is the point here?

        I take it you agree with my other observations.

      • annie
        annie on May 25, 2014, 4:35 pm

        The fact that the president of United States would reportedly

        hmm, i don’t think you can combine “the fact” and “reportedly” in the same sentence, especially when the person making the allegation is netanyahu. if you care to believe obama said “not one brick”, as opposed to netanyahu claiming he said “not one brick”, that’s your prerogative, but it sure doesn’t make it a ‘fact’.

        and everyone already knows obama caved on settlement freeze as a prerequisite for the ‘peace process’, so this is just all about netanyahu bragging to his base. We already know what Netanyahu thinks of Obama and no one needs some leaked tape to prove it. when netanyahu wants to chastize obama he makes his speech in english.

        I take it you agree with my other observations.

        lol

        Again, what is the point here?

        like i said, reading comprehension..read the first paragraph of the article again. and my point? that you are just here to to insert your israel-excusing-blame palestine viewpoint. and pepper the post with hasbara.

        the US can be influenced and moved, that is the nature of our government.

        it’s also the nature of our website. and it does appear we’re on the side with the wind on our backs right now,meanwhile israel is spending a fortune on propaganda and the american public don’t seem to be moving in the direction of zionism right now, further away it seems to me. so thank goodness the US can be influenced and moved. game on.

      • mzrt
        mzrt on May 25, 2014, 4:40 pm

        Still do not understand what the point of this is, other than to show that the US has little to no understanding of dynamics inside Israel (which you seem to confirm by acknowledging that the president of United States came around to finally understanding what was going on inside of Israel politically).

        What Netanyahu thinks of Obama is hardly noteworthy. All one has to do is read the Israeli newspapers every few days to get a sense of what Israel’s leadership, and the majority of public opinion, think about our president.

        And you have done little in the way of elucidation. Maybe the others can explain the purpose of the original post? Thanks.

      • annie
        annie on May 25, 2014, 4:58 pm

        Maybe the others can explain the purpose of the original post? Thanks.

        oh no i think i will give it another shot. i think you are perhaps unable to experience how people on the other side view these revelations. noam and phil both link to netanyahu bragging about tanking oslo:

        http://972mag.com/netanyahu-clinton-administration-was-%E2%80%9Cextremely-pro-palestinian%E2%80%9D-i-stopped-oslo/135/

        you see, we like that video because it confirms what we already know. just like we like this video of an aipac guy confirming what we already know http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/democracy-divestment-students.html

        if you find no value in it, move along to a post you can comprehend. repeating to show that the US has little to no understanding of dynamics inside Israel over and over driving home your objective isn’t improved by feigning non understanding couched as a question.

        i think what’s quite clear is people are very much understanding dynamics inside Israel. it’s becoming more and more clear all the time. hence kerry’s ‘poof’ statement. israel has no intention of giving up their settlements and you’ll be mimicking the ‘it’s palestinians fault’ lie til the cows come home.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye on May 25, 2014, 5:51 pm

        @mzrt
        Er, how do the Palestinians have the “power to change Israel’s internal politics”? By far the majority of them (WB, Gaza, EJ) have no representation in the Knesset and no vote in Israeli elections and are not citizens – yet, by your own words, you are obviously assuming the extension of Israeli sovereignty over the entirety of former Mandate Palestine, by referring to “internal politics” when the topic of the post is Nutty’s reaction to a bar on settlement building in Palestine – not Israel.

      • ToivoS
        ToivoS on May 26, 2014, 2:52 am

        I think mzrt has a point. In 2009 when Obama made a big speech proposing a settlement freeze my first reaction was: What is he trying to do? It seemed politically impossible for the US to do this. My concern was not Israeli politics but US politics. At that time it was clear that the lobby could thwart any efforts by a US president to try to pressure Israel. However I gave Obama the benefit of doubt since I assumed that the new Obama admin must have come to some understandings with the major players in the Israeli lobby in Washington, otherwise they would not have set out on such a bold path. After all he had Axelrod and Emmanuel on his staff so he must have had a better understanding of what the lobby could do then I did.

        However, within months Bibi was publicly ridiculing Obama in international forums and before the US Congress with the full backing of the lobby. I still think this will be a question that future historians will ponder as to why he allowed himself to be so publicly humiliated by the Israelis? And why he failed to understand the power of the lobby?

        In short, Obama’s failure was not in understanding Israeli politics, but in American politics.

      • annie
        annie on May 26, 2014, 3:46 am

        within months Bibi was publicly ridiculing Obama in international forums and before the US Congress with the full backing of the lobby.

        iow, it inspired natanyahu to fully express himself..the big reveal.

        I still think this will be a question that future historians will ponder as to why he allowed himself to be so publicly humiliated by the Israelis?

        really? you don’t think maybe he was giving them enough rope to hang themselves?

        And why he failed to understand the power of the lobby?

        oh really. and would you say that wrt the hagel nomination? and what about him gouging that same lobby to dig in their heels and ‘help’ him on bombing syria? you don’t think maybe the lobby got played a tad, or do you think obama had no idea bombing syria was not (at all) popular with the american public?

        the power of the lobby requires the support of the little people, or a consensus ‘everybody’ supports israel.. the little people are turning away from israel.

        Obama’s failure was not in understanding Israeli politics, but in American politics.

        the fat lady is not singing yet. politics is local. in the eyes of the locals i would not wager any bets on obama coming out the loser in any ‘political net loss’ comparison w/israel.

      • Citizen
        Citizen on May 26, 2014, 10:33 am

        “And yes, the US can be influenced and moved, that is the nature of our government.

        Again, what is the point here?”

        The point is that the US government can be easily moved by large doses of cash to compliant political campaign special interests; the one at issue here is the pros and cons of the US-Israel “special relationship,” a unique one, to say the least. The partnering point is that 90% of what most Americans get in the way of information about this special relationship comes from only five main media corporate conglomerates, all but one led by Jewish Zionists, the fifth, by Murdoch, who arguably is more interested in material profit than his one alleged Jewish ancestor.

    • eljay
      eljay on May 25, 2014, 5:25 pm

      >> The Palestinians have the power to change Israel’s internal politics, but they have chosen not to do that.

      Curious:
      1. What power – a power they apparently have chosen not to use – do the Palestinians have to “change Israel’s internal politics”?
      2. What, exactly, would change if the Palestinians were to choose to wield this power?

    • David Doppler
      David Doppler on May 26, 2014, 12:33 pm

      “Given the absence of any meaningful external or internal pressure, it would be nonsensical for the prime minister of Israel to take orders from this or any other President.”

      It’s true Obama is not comfortable with leading through strength, while the Israeli right-wing – and apparently you mzrt – believe might is right. “Why do the right thing if you don’t have to?” is a rationalization for deliberately doing the wrong thing, for id conquering ego and mocking super-ego. This report illustrates clearly what is seldom addressed directly, that Netanyahu is deliberately saying one thing while doing its opposite, and laughing at those who are suckered. He’s eating the pizza while negotiating whose pizza it is, and laughing at those who were suckered into believing he would ever allow “the risk of peace” to come about.

      He’s there reveling with his base about having built many thousands of settlements while pretending to engage in peace negotiations, to have brought the Israeli Zionist dream of building out a new reality on the ground, while suckering the US and the world community into believing Israel wants peace.

      Perhaps you and the Israeli right wing believe this is in your interests, but Israel is building its mighty fortress on a sandy foundation. Obama is a weak leader, but he is deeply intelligent, he has given Netanyahu his rope. Under the Obama-Netanyahu “leadership,” which might better be described an abject enablement of the settler enterprise and AIPAC excesses, Israel has lied and connived itself to the point where its businesses will be boycotted, its leaders will be indicted in the ICJ, its murders and mutilations of innocent Palestinians will be exposed, on CNN, at FIFA, in the UN, its blatant control and manipulation of our Congress will eventually become a point of historic shame, and Israel (or its right-wing, if Israel eventually reforms itself and turns on the right-wingers) will find itself alone in the world, condemned for all of its crimes.

      It is only “nonsensical” for power to “take orders” from those who do not rule by power, from the perspective that power does what power wants, right and wrong be damned. But when power is built on the foundation of western democratic republics, it is folly to believe that there won’t be a reckoning, that the sheer evil of the racist settler enterprise and the sheer corruption of the AIPAC-controlled Congress working in its service won’t be held to account eventually.

      Mzrt, you’re arguing power where Annie is arguing right and wrong. In America, we put checks and balances on power, so that right always has the better chance at prevailing, eventually. “For here we are not afraid to follow truth, wherever it may lead us, nor to tolerate error, so long as reason is left free to combat it.”

      The school of opinion in America to throw off the evil corruption represented by Netanyahu’s laugh line “the what?” when asked about the peace process is growing bigger every day.

      “Altogether elsewhere, vast herds of reindeer move across miles and miles of golden moss, silently, and very fast.” WH Auden, “The Fall of Rome.” Our founding fathers had the fall of Rome in mind when they built checks and balances and created a republic, not an empire. Everyone of those corrupted people in DC swore an oath to uphold the constitution, and the school of opinion sufficient to right the ship of state is steadily building. Laugh at the temporary success of corruption, at the temporary suckering of democratic people worldwide, if that strikes you as funny. Justify Netanyahu’s decision to celebrate with his base because that base hasn’t been held to account yet. It’s only a matter of time, and right and wrong matters. Thanks, Annie and Phil, and +972, for an important glimpse into the heart of corruption.

  5. just
    just on May 25, 2014, 4:48 pm

    Well, when speaks/thinks this way and his audience finds it hilarious they are not only demeaning our government, but also every single American.

    Cut ALL $$$, end the forever veto, put them in the biggest time-out of any state on this earth. Criminal beyond compare– and we must be the stupidest nation on earth to let it get this far.

    And yes, to the hasbara crowd. I AM singling out Israel/Zionists, because it deserves it! We’ve given and given to you– for what? To what end? Why?

    • pjdude
      pjdude on May 25, 2014, 8:48 pm

      When it’s all said and done I believe it’s going to end up decided through a military conflict. And israel probably going to have ended up biking someone. I don’t want it to but I’ve seen nothing to suggest that israel will give up it’s sense of entitlement and irrationality and unaccountability. Something is going to happen the us won’t bail them out they will feel threatened that their privilege is gone and nuke someone and there will be no other option but a military one after that

  6. seafoid
    seafoid on May 25, 2014, 4:59 pm

    “Asked “about peace talks with the Palestinians,” Netanyahu reportedly replied, “about the – what?” to which the audience responded by breaking out into laughter.”

    Hilarious
    Will be worth digging out when TSHTF.

    • mzrt
      mzrt on May 25, 2014, 5:09 pm

      People have been saying that TS will HTF since 1967. It won’t happen. The world is weary of these two protagonists. It’s like a bad marriage. Unfortunately, Netanyahu is right.

      • seafoid
        seafoid on May 26, 2014, 2:30 am

        What is Israel going to do when oil is phased out ?

      • annie
        annie on May 26, 2014, 4:21 pm

        citizen, goys is a derogatory term. as far as i know it is not against the rules here but i don’t like it. i just thought i’d let you know why i am scrolling past 2 of your comments on this thread and you’ll have to wait until someone else comes along to clear them. just thought i’d give you a heads up on that in case you want to consider the upside of not offending me or others who do not like it.

      • seafoid
        seafoid on May 26, 2014, 5:07 pm

        Israel is going to go the way of the Waldo Hancock Bridge

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4skTem2ROPA

        Insufficient maintenance is ultra dangerous .

        In Israel’s case the moral stuff has been ignored for too long. Ethical corrosion is not good for Zionism. Not good at all.

  7. mzrt
    mzrt on May 25, 2014, 5:05 pm

    Yes, I understand. When certain American politicians speak a certain way, my stomach also turns. That is the nature of politics. Thus, I am certain that if Obama were to read the outrage expressed here, he’d laugh out loud. Politics is politics.

    I think if you were to read about the joint endeavors undertaken by Israel and the US in the way of sharing information and intelligence (Stuxnet for example), you would understand why Netanyahu can get away with pandering to his base. And why even Obama would get a laugh out of Netanyahu’s remarks. I cannot really say more than that.

    As for the “hasbarah crowd”… I assume that this is the term employed here to denigrate the opinions of those who do not toe the party line. Please refrain from using such terms, they reveal a depth of understanding about the issues. Thanks.

    • just
      just on May 25, 2014, 5:13 pm

      This ain’t ‘politics’. I will wager that Mr. Obama is not laughing at all. As for your ‘ask’– no thanks. I have a very nice ‘depth of understanding about the issues’.

      (Hasbara is bought- and- paid- for Israeli propaganda, btw. Surprised you did not know that, or is this just more of your feigned puzzlement?)

    • annie
      annie on May 25, 2014, 5:14 pm

      As for the “hasbarah crowd”… Please refrain from using such terms, they reveal a depth of understanding about the issues. Thanks.

      actually we’re pro revealing a depth of understanding about the issues, so i’ll speak for myself in saying that i have no intention of refraining from using the term.

      • Citizen
        Citizen on May 26, 2014, 11:14 am

        @ Annie Robbins
        The Israeli government itself uses the term, Nothing new; just Israel’s “explanation” of why it does what it does, and to whom. People with actual facts find the explanation faulty. Why is this a surprise to anyone?

    • Qualtrough
      Qualtrough on May 25, 2014, 11:04 pm

      mzrt–A revealing Freudian slip on your part when you wrote this:

      “As for the “hasbarah crowd”… I assume that this is the term employed here to denigrate the opinions of those who do not toe the party line. Please refrain from using such terms, they reveal a depth of understanding about the issues.”

      So right! Knowing how hasbarah infect these sites does indeed reveal a deep understanding of the issues.

    • oneof5
      oneof5 on May 26, 2014, 8:11 am

      As for the “hasbarah crowd”… I assume that this is the term employed here to denigrate the opinions of those who do not toe the party line. Please refrain from using such terms, they reveal a depth of understanding about the issues. Thanks.

      Hmmm … apparently a new commenter, seven posts in 24 hours, on a single article.

      Ya know, one of things about observing an individual’s writing and “voice” over a period of time is that certain mannerisms become recognizable and somewhat easy to discern – often despite the individual making an effort to hide them.

      The above seems somewhat familiar for some odd reason.

  8. mzrt
    mzrt on May 25, 2014, 5:12 pm

    It’s most certainly not the Palestinians’ fault. It’s the fault of the Arab world more generally for using the Palestinians as cannon fodder for 45 years.

    • Donald
      Donald on May 25, 2014, 5:50 pm

      “It’s the fault of the Arab world more generally for using the Palestinians as cannon fodder for 45 years.”

      And there it is. I wasn’t completely sure what your point was–the initial cynicism was consistent with several points of view and you’re right thateveryone knows what Netanyahu thinks of Obama. But as it turns out, you are just a hasbara artist, giving Israel a clean bill of health and blaming the Arab world (which has plenty of its own sins to worry about) for Israel’s crimes.

      • just
        just on May 25, 2014, 5:58 pm

        Yep.

        And he/she goes further to say that “Unfortunately, Netanyahu is right”.

        blergh.

      • annie
        annie on May 25, 2014, 8:07 pm

        just, OT. here is an video on AP’s youtube page. is it true or false?

      • just
        just on May 25, 2014, 8:11 pm

        lol.

    • pjdude
      pjdude on May 25, 2014, 8:50 pm

      Shouldn’t it be Israel’s and zionists fault for trying to conquer palestine

    • talknic
      talknic on May 26, 2014, 1:22 am

      @ mzrt “It’s the fault of the Arab world more generally for using the Palestinians as cannon fodder for 45 years”

      What a strange thing to say.

      A) The Arabs have fought the legal battle on behalf of the people of Palestine (incl indigenous Jews) for almost 100 years.

      B) The Arab states have given refuge to Palestinian refugees for 66 years

      C) The Arab states have fought wars on the behalf of the people of Palestine

      D) It has been Israel in breach of International Law and the UN Charter

      • RoHa
        RoHa on May 26, 2014, 2:22 am

        ‘“It’s the fault of the Arab world more generally for using the Palestinians as cannon fodder for 45 years”

        What a strange thing to say.’

        Indeed, talknic. It seems to get the causal influence the wrong way round. It suggests that the Arab world’s hostility to Israel was not a result of the dispossession of the Palestinians, but that they were a convenient excuse.

    • Citizen
      Citizen on May 26, 2014, 11:18 am

      @ mzrt

      So, you’re saying the Arab World uses the Palestinians as cannon fodder? When has the Arab World attacked the Palestinians? I see lots of Palestinians used and abused as Zionist cannon fodder for the Zionist project, decades, and decades of it.

  9. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870 on May 25, 2014, 5:24 pm

    RE: Netanyahu recently met with Likud supporters, and mocked Washington’s demands . . . Asked “about peace talks with the Palestinians,” Netanyahu reportedly replied, “about the – what?” to which the audience responded by breaking out into laughter.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Did I mention how impressed I was that Indyk had the moxie to say that Israel is an arrogant nation? Oh, that’s right, I was going to mention it a few days ago, but after working on the comment for what seemed like an eternity, when I finally submitted it*, I got a message saying “sorry, but the comments are closed”. The nerve! Or to borrow that ghastly, “slightly lispy” (Pauline Kael’s description of Chuck Norris back in the mid-70s) refrain from Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign:
    “How dare they!”
    “How dare they!”
    “How dare they!”

    * MY SPURNED COMMENT FROM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO: I can still mentally picture myself having stopped by my mother’s house, and as I enter the den Netanyahu is speaking at the UN General Assembly for the first time since his election win in 2009. This was being carried on Fox News with more obsequious/sycophantic fanfare than they would likely have had for a U.S. President, even a right-wing Republican.
    Just as I realized the exact nature of what was on and began to listen attentively (unpleasant as that is for me in the case of Netanyahu), I thought I heard Netanyahu say something that I interpreted as his claiming to speak not only for Israelis, but for all Jews wherever they might live*.
    Perhaps I should not have been so surprised, but I was nevertheless stunned and began doubting he had said what I thought I had heard. I knew that Netanyahu’s limitless grandiosity included his considering himself to essentially be “King of (All) the Jews” (i.e. Guardian and Savior of All Jews Everywhere), but I didn’t think he had quite enough chutzpah to make a grand proclamation to that effect here in the U.S. in a speech widely broadcasted across this blessed “homeland” of ours (but most definitely not the Native Americans’ homeland). Perhaps this has something to do with the reason that a particular aspect of Indyk’s recent comments that didn’t seem particularly important to most people stood out to me as though it was a flashing red neon sign, specifically: Israel’s being an ARROGANT** nation. Part of the reason this was so significant to me is that arrogance is quite often associated with narcissism.
    * When I found a transcript, I confirmed that he said essentially what I thought, but he did it in a way seemingly designed so that the claim to speak for all Jews would be missed by most people since instead of saying “all Jews” he says “my people”. Unless you pay very close attention so that you can interpret “my people” in the context he uses it, the significance is lost on most people. My suspicion is that the objective was for most Jews to understand the significance of what he was saying while it escaped notice by most others. It would not surprise me if articles in the Israeli (Hebrew language) press used Hebrew in place of “my people” that meant something closer to “all the Jews”. Aren’t I cynical?!?!
    As an aside, I wonder whether cynicism is more of a cause or a symptom of Weltschmerz. Can it perhaps at times be both with the intriguing potential consequence that (assuming the mind doesn’t have entirely effective feedback inhibition) it sometimes causes the ‘mind blowing’ brain equivalent of James Brown’s (sorry, Ella) most piercing scream. Can you dig it? It sounds awfully good to me, but then I’m a glutton for punishment!

    ** REGARDING ISRAEL’S ARROGANCE, SEE: “Is There a Way Beyond Israeli Madness?” [Will the Chosen People and the Exceptional People Go Down Together?] ~ by John Grant, Counterpunch, 8/31/12

    [EXCERPTS]

    The patient, by the name of Israel, walks into the room and instantly bursts into a tirade of arguments conclusively proving his credentials, and says that he is better than everyone else.
    – Ofer Grosbard, “Israel On The Couch: The Psychology of the Peace Process”

    The problem Americans have with Israel is that the region it exists in is in the midst of a major political sea change, while Israel is frozen in time and holding on to its militarist, right-wing policies of extending settlements in the West Bank. It’s a policy that harks back to the ideas of the British-trained militarist Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall, which is based on the idea a live-and-let-live policy between Jews and Arabs is impossible and, thus, Jews must militarily control and repress Palestinians [i.e. the mindset of the “pale” – J.L.D.] . . .
    . . . How does a people turn back a racially-oriented demonization program with roots that extend back many decades? How do you ratchet down a nation’s narcissism so people are able to simply see the other as a human being? . . .
    . . . On our part, Americans and the United States need to stop being a permissive yes-man and begin to show Israel some tough
    love. We need more US criticism of Israel. No doubt this approach will be received with gales of cynical laughter from hardliners … but so what?
    In my mind, the Israeli narcissistic and arrogant mindset would benefit from a little Buddhist detachment, more of the posture that sees the world not of separate individual selves and egos but of human beings as part of a larger flow of life. The Buddhists call the self-obsessed, separatist state-of-mind [i.e. the “pale” of Israel surrounded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall – J.L.D.] that Israel thrives on and defends with weapons as “the illusory self.”
    “Once one identifies with a permanent self-concept, the pride and craving adhering to this become the pivot from which an
    egocentric world arises,” writes Gay Watson, a psychotherapist attuned to Buddhism.
    David Loy puts it this way: “To become completely groundless is also to become completely grounded, not in some particular, but in the whole network of interdependent relations that constitute the world.”
    I’m not suggesting Israel become a Buddhist nation. The point is for Israelis, and more important Americans, to figure a way out of the worsening condition of “us versus them” to avoid the need to obliterate them and set off a war that no one really wants. The point is to re-shape our minds to make “the other” less threatening to permit talking.
    I’m not holding my breath that Benjamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are going to become peace activists.
    But I’m done as an American being a silent stooge while Israeli militarist madness fuels hatred and sets the stage for war.

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/31/is-there-a-way-beyond-israeli-madness/

    • DICKERSON3870
      DICKERSON3870 on May 25, 2014, 7:26 pm

      RE: “How dare they!” ~ Gore campaign in 2000 (from above)

      MY COMMENT: I could not believe it when Al Gore used this cringe-worthy line repeatedly in speeches (several times per speech) during his 2000 campaign. I guess Gore and his campaign were relying on a wing and a prayer dare. Personally, I would not let the word “dare” anywhere near a political campaign unless I wanted it to end in a loss. It the type of word that brings to mind the kind of campy drama found in drag queen shows.
      “How dare they” absolutely reeks of pomposity. It sounds like something said by a society matron who is in a fit of high dungeon because her caterer substituted white dinner napkins made of 60% cotton for the white dinner napkins made of 100% cotton that she specifically requested; and if this had happened to occur in a classic Marx Bros. film, you can bet that Groucho would have had a zinger ready to put the old bag of wind in her place.
      Merely changing “dare” to “could” thereby making it “how could they” would have made it far less pretentious and therefore much better suited for a political campaign.

  10. Sumud
    Sumud on May 25, 2014, 10:43 pm

    Netanyahu is a remarkably stupid man.

    The more settlements the less chance of a two state solution ever coming into existence. Apartheid is not sustainable, a one state outcome with jews a minority and Palestinian right of return enacted is now all but inevitable.

    Netanyahu supervises Israel’s suicide, all the while bragging about it. What a fool.

  11. Qualtrough
    Qualtrough on May 25, 2014, 11:23 pm

    There seems to be no real limit to the servility of US politicians, so it would be natural for him to think he can do whatever he pleases.

  12. John Salisbury
    John Salisbury on May 26, 2014, 9:08 am

    Backlash maybe coming.Right now the crowd feel omnipotent.Change is possible however.Netanyahu brags but The Palestinians are still there and more settlements will only prove the insincerity of their ‘peace negotiating’ At the moment the American political process is largely controlled ie if you want to be Presidential contender contact either Haim Saban or Sheldon Adelson but they may over reach and provoke a backlash

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